 Hi everybody, and welcome to the Lakeland locker room. Once again, I'm John Weber joined today by Jim Zabrowski, the head football coach at Lakeland College. Jim, as usual on the show, we like to get right to it. Where are we at, though, Webs? I know, here we are in front of a live studio audience. I'm the only person out there. They have to be here because it's part of the mandatory practice session I give. What kind of coach is that, you know? I mean, these guys are out here. You mean some of the game, exactly. But first off, we gotta thank TVA for coming out to the Lakeland College campus pub and doing a live show for us. Then it should be a lot of fun today. It's a special show, too. We're gonna have an hour-long edition. We're gonna talk about the game, of course, against Benedictine. Show us some highlights, as usual. And the last half hour? Of course, player profile. Player profile? Bring them up, let them talk. It's gonna be a little scary, so. And they don't know they're coming up yet. That's right. They're gonna be pulled out of the audience, one by one, should be a good time. It should be a good time. And of course, we're gonna recap the season. Talk about some of the stats. I know the guys haven't even seen the numbers yet, so it should be a lot of fun. First off, let's talk about your guys' big victory on Saturday. You guys killed Benedictine. Had to go on the road, and your schedule got a little bit messed up, but you guys came in with a nice 61 to 34 victory. Yeah, you were there an hour early. We were there an hour early. Game was supposed to be noon. Ended up being a one o'clock game, so we were there a little early. Never know what's gonna happen, those type of situation. Our kid's gonna be kind of blah, blah. You don't know what's gonna happen. And we came out, and it was kind of one of those seesaw battles early. They scored a couple of touchdowns. We kept scoring, which was good. We finally got the lead midway through that first quarter. Kept it throughout the game, but they kept keeping it close, no matter where we had to keep. We just kept pouring it on before he noted. Ended up being whatever the score, 61 to 34, whatever it was. What was the score? 61 to 34. I knew it was something like that. But the kids played great. There was a couple of, like I told you, it doesn't matter, offensive and defensively what happens. You look back on our season, Carthage game, we didn't play exceptionally well on offense, but the defense played great. Here in this game, we gave up a couple of touchdowns early. We're not gonna get rattled. I had no worry that we weren't gonna be able to score. I told the defense the second quarter, you give us one stop. Just one stop, we're gonna win this game. I told the offense, we're not gonna get stopped today. It just ain't gonna happen. So then I'm working out, you know, just how, kind of like how we scripted it. By that time, the second half we played a little bit better. You know, both sides of the ball and getting enough points to get out there with a win. Well, the nice thing about it is you're when you moved you guys to eight and two on the season. Guys finished six and one overall in conference play, second line at Badger Football Conference. Were you a little worried though when they scored on that big play right in early game, probably behind seven, nothing? No, I told our kid, I said, we are the greatest thing we do is we battle adversity. It doesn't matter what happens. I tell you, if they score, who cares? Our job is to score more points when the other team gives up and vice versa. And it didn't matter if they scored. Well, great they scored, it's two minutes into the game. We came right back. The big thing is though, we usually answer people. So we answered somebody right away. All of a sudden we answered. They kick up, we kick off, they fumble. We throw a touchdown pass to Bird to make a 14-7 and we got the lead from that on. So no, it didn't really, I was kind of, I mean like, oh, because we played so well on defense that it's funny because you don't expect, you don't expect people to score. You really don't. When they score, you're like, that's interesting. Let's get the ball like Travis, made a great Travis Terence, made a great kickoff return to get us in great field position. It talks about, I don't know, five, six plays, you know, to punch it in. And then we kind of got that thing rolling. And we always stayed at least two touchdowns ahead. And then we got a great stop, a Gibson interception, it starts at the end of the second quarter. We went a two-minute drill and scored, I think go up 41-20 or something like that. Well, let's talk about the first quarter again. Singleton scored on a 57-yard pass. Now this guy was unbelievable. He kind of came out of nowhere. He had only 23 catches on the air, but he finished with it. I think 15 catches were 260 plus yards. You don't gotta keep saying that. You know what I'm saying? We're not going into that with it. He played, I told the defense, I just, the guy got hot. The quarterback got hot. I mean, he made some great catches. The quarterback made some great throws. The funny thing was, their offense coordinator got fired week eight. So all the tape we watched had nothing to do with what was gonna happen. They changed their offense somewhat. They were running some, they were not very sound in terms of offensively. And most teams just throttled them because they tried to run the ball out. Well, all of a sudden they come out, they stay in a three-wide receiver set. And they just kept throwing the ball to the one kid. You know, and he made some great plays. You know, we were there sometimes. He could make great play, he could make great throw. But yeah, he had unbelievable day. I think he had like 220 yards by halftime. Then he had like 40 yards the rest of the game. So yeah, made some adjustments. And the defense, the back's coach is still fired. Just so you know that he's gone. Our D coordinator almost got KO'd by halftime. But besides that, you know, he had a great game. You know, I told the guy said, hey, I'm talking to a coach that's selling the headset. I'm going, that kid, he's hunt fired. He's in Fuego right now. But they weren't going to catch us. It wasn't going to happen. That's why I never really got to worry like, oh no, they weren't stopping us. You know, we ended up with 536 yards offense or something. And so it wasn't going to matter. They just make the score look a little closer. That probably should have been. Well, the nice thing is, we mentioned, you guys came right back. Brent Luke, he ran it in from 11 yards out. That kept a seven play 46 yard drive just three minutes later. Right. And you were at the game, so you saw it. So we came right back to that kickoff. I think that made it 7-7 or whatever, they fumbled. And we had a great job in kickoff recovery. They fumbled. We ended up calling it a short pass play. They had a plane, a 6-7 man Blitz look. And they pressed Sean on the outside. And Sean Barron just beat him, flat out beat him. Brett made a great throw. Bird made a great adjustment to the ball, too. He was a forward baseball player. How good was he? He was good when he was healthy. He's got a little old. Kind of old? He's like 36. But he did a great job. And he beat him right away to put a 14-7. But it was a great play. I mean, I just watched the tape again out of the game. And you'll see the highlights in the second part of the show. He beat that kid quickly. And that show brought me a great throw. He had a Blitz in his face. He made a great throw. And we got going. And from that moment on, they weren't going to. They looked good. They looked nice. And the other team played well and spurs. But it wasn't going to happen. Well, the big turning point was the second quarter when you guys outscored him, 27-14. Marcus Dunham had a big quarter for you. He scored a couple of times early on. Right at the second quarter at the 14-30 mark. He took it in from nine yards out. Yeah. And when you watch the highlight of that play, we had a run in power, which we run about 2,000 times this year. And Marcus runs his play. And we had a great block. And the safety is right there in the hole, about 300. And Marcus just runs them over. Barely breaks right. He just runs a flat over touchdown. And that's just the way we play. We always talk about being physical. And that was a very physical quarter for us. We kind of physically got the momentum back. And like I said, he had a big, I think he had two touchdowns that quarter. And we played really well in that second quarter to get the momentum back on our side. It's been kind of a change we've seen this year too. I know in the past I think we've been more of a finesse oriented type team. And it seems like this year we've had a little bit more, like you said, just run right through people. Yeah, we did. And our old line played really well. And in the last couple of games, I think, if you look at the stats today, the last three games, we averaged 52 points a game and gave up like 10 or something or 12 or something like that. In that sense. But we're a physical football team. And it doesn't matter. I always joke with you. Marcus is 150 pounds or something like that. And he just runs people over. The old line, huge hold. And we rushed for a little over 200 yards because we ended up throwing for like 326 or 318 or something. But we gained control on both sides of the ball. We're a strong physical team. These kids like to be physical and we're physical in practice and it carries over to the game. Well, Benedictine came right back. Singleton, again, a five yard pass. We'll try not to mention his name too much. Dunham came right back though. I'm going to have to score four times. But Dunham came right back. Again, he had a six yard run and that completed an eight play 58 yard drive. That made it, well, that was at the 643 mark again too, midway through the second quarter. And I think, I don't know, I think we scored again somewhere on the line and the biggest momentum switch was Gibson's interception at the end of the second quarter. They were trying to score. I think I don't know, it was 34-20. 34-20, they're trying to score. Gibby makes great play. Intercepts, we hit the ball about the 35. And we go, hey, you know, we didn't even go for it. We didn't even go in a hurry up. We ended up, they go to prevent defense. We stay in our pro style offense. And we, Marcus Gash is for 12. Then we throw a three step route. Marcus Gash is for six. We throw a three step route. Actually, you know, we're on a 25 yard line. We throw a ball at a bird again. Makes a great catch. Doesn't get in for some unforeseen reason. I'm not sure about that. He's in the crowd, so I can rip him for that. But he gets a ball in the one inch line. I think Marcus ended up. Actually, it was the third touchdown of the quarter? Yeah, Marcus's third touchdown of the quarter on one. So I think I drive took about a minute for, I don't even know what the stats say. That says 27 seconds, that was it. Yeah, exactly. So it was a great drive. And that really got the momentum back. It's a 20, a minute 29 at the 27 second mark. So it was a minute, so it's 41, 20 and a half time. And then we said, hey, you know, we're okay. I think one play that can't be overlooked in the second quarter two is Jeff Taft running back a kickoff 86 yards. Yeah, and you'll see that in the highlight. And that kickoff, it's hilarious because they played. So they came inside, Jeff set it up really well. Great block, and I think he's untouched. He goes down the side with four guys running with them for an 80 yard. We've been really close all year. He's been really close break. I mean, it was great to get him, especially being a senior. But to let him gash that one, it was great block. And he just untouched. He's jogging the last 25 yards. There's nowhere in the area. Well, you guys had a 41, 21 lead at the break. What do you say at this point? Because I know you got your offense is right, where you need to be. Said he had to make some defensive adjustments. What do you say to the guys? I just told him, don't worry about it. We're up by 21 points. There's no difference if it's 41, 20 or 21-nothing. What's the difference? It doesn't matter. I said, like I said, for the 12th time, we're going to score a lot of points today. So just keep that kid under control. And it was a weird game because they were talking smack and they were cheap shot. And it was hilarious because they were getting pummeled and they're talking. So it makes you even want to pummel more. And our big guys just start pummeling them. And that's what we do here. And that's what's fun to watch. We watch tape people are just getting crushed. And they're still talking. So it wasn't hard to mode. Our kids weren't excited about being up 41, 20. They were like, coach, let's keep going. And we did. We outscoring them with 20 to 14, I think in the second half. Yeah, yeah. Well, you guys came back midway through the third quarter, kind of a back and forth type game until the 501 mark when Loopy again ran in from two yards out. Yeah, it ran a little option. It was a good drive because we had a punting, which we don't, the funniest thing was, I know we got to break here in a minute or two, but he looks, it's fourth and fourth, that first drive of the second half. It's fourth and fourth on our own 35. And I say, punk team and half, the team looks and you're like, what the hell are you talking about? Punt. So we go for it every week. We go for it on fourth. I'll probably 30 times this year. Like you got a freaking punt sometime in this game. We had a punting, but then we got that drive back. We had a great drive. And I think it went up 48, 20. He might have scored. 47, 21. 47, 21. And then they scored and it didn't matter. Shut up. I just thought I'd drive out there again too. That kid's a senior though, in case you're wondering. Yeah, that's good thing as well too. But then I say again, the fourth quarter you guys really control is again, Jeff Taft really had a great year for you. Taft and Barron scored in the fourth quarter. Those guys had a big year for you all season. Taft comes in with a five yard touchdown pass. It's great. Ken, you'll see that was a great catch on a fade route. You know, we call the play out of the timeout. We call a fade, you know, three-step fade and we throw it, Jeff makes an unbelievable catch. Then we come back a drive or two later. We get a fourth down again, like on our 25. We call it three vertical look and Taft and Bird's open. Brent throws it to Bird. Makes great catch. The best part was that kid was talking to Max saying, he's all conference, you never throw on him. Well, we just threw on him for a touchdown. So shut up and let's go. Yeah, those guys would kind of like to talk too much. They do. Chicago kid and you're a Chicago kid so that's a problem. Well, you guys at this point are leading 54-28. They come back to score one more time, 54-34. That's the 10 minutes to go in the game. This point, the game is ice though, but are you a little nervous at all? Not really or anything? No, because they were never going to catch us. I said once we got the 12 point lead, they could score all they want because we were going to score all we wanted to. So I think that's when Bird caught that pass. Yeah, 31 yard pass. It was a fourth down play too. And we were unbelievable. The funniest thing we did was our stats. We were unbelievable. Touchdown on fourth down. Not just get it. We sometimes call it vertical stuff and say, let's go after it. And we did and he made a great catch in the end zone on one of those kids talking and it was great to go up that much and the game was over. Well, we got about three minutes left here before we go to breaks. Let's go ahead and review some of the stats from the game. You guys really control the entire game, as you mentioned. You guys had 318 yards passing. They did have 319 overall as well. You guys had 208 on the ground and they had 54. I think that's where the difference was right there. They can do anything in the running. Exactly. It was funny because when you look at the time of possession, they got more time of possession because they actually ran the ball occasionally for nothing. It just ate up a little clock. They had a lot of third down completions which helped their time of possession and we didn't need them. We had a couple fourth down conversion but we ended up with 500. I think it's the second game in a row with more 500 or a row where we were right up in that high four, 500 range too. This was really great. Yeah, 526. They had 373 total yards. You guys had 26 first down. They had 20. I think the only one, again, all positives, this is one thing we've talked about day in and day out this year. You guys had completely dominated the statistical columns, all positive across the board. The only one negative column, you guys are the Oakland Raiders here again too. 9 penalties for 174 yards. That's just poor efficiency in this league. Whatever I'm telling you that about. I told our kids, we get, and I tell them, the best team sometimes, if you're the most physical team, you're tipped on that line of going over the edge and sometimes they call stuff. I mean, we get some stupid penalties to some offside and so on, but a lot of times we're just being physical, and we're blocking his people, and they call a couple. And I just tell them, don't worry about it. We'll get it. First and 25, who cares? It gives us more yards to work. So hopefully we'll cut down a little stupid penalty, but yeah, we do. I don't even want to look at our total penalty. That's not a real, we're a discipline program. We have about 2,000 penalties. Well, the other thing too on the defense side of the bog, sometimes we overlook this a little bit too. You guys, again, had another total team effort. Yeah, we did. And that's what we've been going all year. If one side of the ball starts on the other side, it jumps up, and special teams, for the most part, it's good again, and we were really hard for the last couple of weeks of the season. So it was a team effort. I think you got it. Justin, we'll run off some of the guys that are out here again today too, but Jacob Vigilani, Roosevelt Moore, led your team with eight total tackles on the day. They really had good games for you. Couple sacks. Johnny Ferguson and Mike Novotny, name we haven't mentioned too much. You guys had a couple sacks there as well. Interceptions. Gibson had a couple there too. Nice pick for you as well. Yeah, we had two. We did a nice job. Yep, so you guys really again had a total team effort. And like I said, you went over some of the offense stats. And I think the fun thing with our senior receiving core, I mean, three of our guys up there, Sean at six, Jeff Taff at six, and James at three. And we had 18 completions. We had four guys catch the ball. So it was just kind of weird to spread out. It ended up being a 6-6-3 in Travis at three catches. So it was nice to see those kids spread out. Rush was kind of all, Brent had 50-some yards, Marcus had 90-some yards, Travis had 40-some yards. So it was really great to get a lot of those guys involved. We're getting a sign here that we got to go to break. So what we're going to do when we come back is go ahead and take some look at some highlights and go from there. Stay with us. 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Zero just talking about the complete domination you guys had over Benedictine, finishing off a great year. Finishing eight and two, I think that's your best record since 1997 when Huskies finished 10-0. It was, and that's what we talked about after, as a coach, you always want 10-0. I mean, that's just the way, as a baseball coach, you do too. But once we lost in court of Wisconsin, we had to say, now we have an opportunity to be the winningest team since 1997. And thank goodness we got that. The kids played great and they deserve everything that they got this year. And it's just tough in football, because if you have one game where you play hard, but you don't get the job done that you wanna get done, you don't get that chance like a baseball and basketball to play a home in a home or go back at them. Because we play in court of Wisconsin right now, I guarantee you we're gonna win. And this is the way we're playing right now. But you don't get that shot. And on that given day, they played better than we did on that given day. And that's what's tough. Well, we had talked about this earlier. You guys are really only about four, five, six plays away from being undefeated this year. Right, and we were. You know, Oshkosh was right there. You know, a couple of plays here and there. Really, one player, two plays. And like in court of Wisconsin, the same way. Two or three plays, they gashed us once or twice. We just missed a touchdown once or twice. And that game was close. Of course, in the score indicator, we outgained them. And we really outplayed them most of the game except for the big plays. And that's what happened. Yeah, well, I know we're gonna go ahead and see if we can see some of the highlights right here so we can explain what happened this past Saturday. Again, this has been addicting that Lyleon vs. Lyleon. The highlights aren't bad. He's, they aren't good. He's a player. This is Jeff Taff catching a power pass. Makes the nice play, it's third down. Makes a great play. Jeff, nevertheless, that first guy hit him. Here's Brent scoring on the option to start us off. That kid, they just can't, he's 6'4, 240. You ain't gotta tackle him sometimes. This is a kickoff return, kickoff coverage right after that touchdown. Great kickoff, great kickoff coverage. We call it the pain train coming. And we like to bring the funk a little bit. Great job. We get a fumble. We get the rock back right away. And like you said, we went right at him. We didn't mean to end up working that way. Great job by Brent, a blitz in his face. Sean Barron, great catch, touchdown. He almost gets the 15-yard high-stepping penalty again. That's okay. Here we go, three verticals from our own goal line. James had a great throw by Brent. Great job by James, who almost takes it 95 yards. Ends up getting 55, 58 yards. Great protection. You know, great job. This is, I think, one of Michael Gibson's two interceptions, his first one. Quarterback throws up for grabs. Mike makes a great play. We get the pick. Here's Marcus Denham running the watch. It's great block, and Marcus just runs his cattle over. Bam. He's done. That's 150 pounds, bringing it. Bringing it wet. Here's a boot leg. Great job by Sean. Watch Greg Dorian, our backside guard coming. He blows his little kid up right there. Bam. Get out here. Great job by Sean to get about 12. Driving down again. Marcus Denham again on power. You know, right down. Great surge by the old line. Touchdown. And I think the greatest thing was watching our receivers get excited for running plays. Because it's tough to sometimes convince those guys. You've got to be physical in the running game. They did a great job, and they, you know, we love scoring. Great job by our defense blowing that kid up a little bit. It's tougher than defense. We have four or five guys around the rock so much. Kickoff, Richard, watch the two outside guys. They get sucked inside. Jeff gets untouched. And we got a posse drive right there. Travis, Michael Gibson. Jed, where are Mike Christians coming with them? ADR to the grade. We've been close all year. And that's a great job by Jeff. Great job by the whole team right there. Defense is Michael Gibson's second interception right here, right before the half. Great job to get us on the 25-yard line. Great job. Sean Barron, we get a fade with about 40 seconds left. Great catch, keeps his feet in bounds, gets us to the one foot line. Where Marcus Denham gets his third touchdown on the half. And that's just great. They had nine guys in the box. We really don't care. We're going to run right at you anyways. Great run by here by Marcus. Great job by the old line. Couple of fakes, we're going to get in 25 yards again. And this is Brent with the second touchdown on the game. 25 option, we call it. Great job, great push by the whole left side of the line. Defensively, I think, if I remember, this is a good job. That singleton right there, finally gets blasted by Gibby. Drop the ball, it's a great job, get in the ball. Get in the ball, separate it. Brumman, this is a good job. Travis, great job on the option block. Jeff, great job blocking downfield. And Brent takes it down to the five-yard line. Now we get a little tight copy. This great job of pursuit by our defense, by Rose. And that's borderline right there, we don't call it. Here's Jeff Tappen making a great catch. Just a great catch. That's a great catch. Great catch. Here on our four-yard line, this is a great job. James Hayes blocking for Jeff. Sean's downfield blocking. Jeff Gash, he's a tough tackle. He's five foot two, coach. He's tough to get him down. Great job by Brent, he keeps his play alive. They actually cover four or three verts here. Sean does a good job of coming back to the ball. Brent does a good job. And the next play, I think, when we score a touchdown here, is I think it's the next play. We're in near flex left. They play cover two. If you look up top of the screen, Jeff's wide open and Sean's open. Brent's sides go outside, great catch. Gets on top of that kid, touchdown. Yep, kind of gave him a little knee lift. And on top. They're a little option here and that ain't going to happen. We're too fast. We're too fast on defense. You're not going to run outside on us. It ain't going to happen. Mike Navadi, this is Sack by Mike. I think at the end of the game, watch this kid get snapped pretty good here. Ah, that's the next one, I'm sorry. That's where I can snap. I think the last one we have is Michael coming from the outside. That kid gets a little snap bang, bam, right there. That's a good job. That's a great job. Great job by those guys. It's fun. You got a lot of highlights when you win. It's always fun to watch highlights when you win. I think the neat thing about this team is, again, just watching the highlights here, play in and play out. You mentioned somebody else's name. It's just not the same guy that you're playing. No, and it's not. And when we go over the season's ending stats, you got a lot of guys and a lot of different things. Different guys making interceptions. Different guys making tackles. Different guys returning kicks and punts. Different guys running the ball. Different guys catching the ball. It might be Jeff Taff, three catches. It came to Sean Barron, 12. You never know. Marcus Denham, 100 yards. Travis might get 50. Kenny Grunn, you got 80 last week or 70. There's a lot of different guys. There's a lot of different things. That's what's fun. It keeps everybody in the game, too. Yep. One thing we're going to do, we talked about, we're going to go ahead and review some of these stats and talk about them. I know it's the first time the guys have actually seen me. Yeah, I don't think I saw any of our kids have seen any of the season's stats. I think one thing that really jumps out, very first stat, top of the page here, you guys scored 401 points, and you held your opponents to 167 points on the air, which comes out to 40.1 points per game. Scored for you guys in 16.7 that you held here. Right, and you're going to win a lot of games, but you've got to be plus, minus, 24 points. Scoring 40 points a game is a great accomplishment. I think when the season ends up, we're going to be in the top 10 in the country. Right around that 10, 11, 12 mark. Scoring-wise, scoring over 40, that's a lot of points. And sometimes you get so used to it, it's not easy to score touchdowns. But our kids do a great job of scoring over 40 points. It's amazing. Defense did a great job. And at 16 points a game is nothing. Nothing, that was great. By no coach, Creek and I ended up doing the NCAA stats this morning, and you guys were just ranked in so many different categories as a team and as individuals. And that's what's nice about that is, when you play well as a team, you're going to get a team accomplishment, along with individual accomplishments, in the NCAA records and in their stats list. Nice, when people go on the websites now, check out, all of a sudden they see Lakeland. First off, eight and two. I think USA ranked us 35th in the country last week. I think someone said it right there. So you're starting to get national exposure. Now all of a sudden you got one of the top offenses in the country, one of the top defenses, top 25 defense in the country. People are going to start seeing that name over and over and over. I think the next thing that jumps out on this sheet is just the balance you guys had in your game. Isn't that amazing? I looked at that, it was amazing. 2154 yards rushing and 2215 passing. Right, and you don't go on the season going, we have to be even. We talked about balance, but you know, you go to the Oshkosh game, we threw for 300 in some yards. We go to this game, we threw for 300, rushed for 200. Some other games, we rushed for 400, threw for 120. So that was amazing, I looked at that. What do you say, I think it was 2150 we rushed for? Yep, yeah. 2150 yards rushing and 2200 and so on passing. Makes it hard for another team to prepare for you guys. Right, and every game is different. Some games we know we're going to be able to punish people. Some games it's going to take a little while, but we're going to run the ball. There's going to be opportunities in the passing game. And then we just go, we do some comparison stats you guys ran for 215 yards per game, which also puts you in the NCAA stats and you guys held your opponents to 105. And that's just great. If you can stop a team from rushing, I don't even remember a team that rushed a ball well on us all year. Oshkosh had a first half. Okay, the Carthage kid had a good game, but besides him, they didn't do anything else. I think he ended up being Carthage's all-time career wrestler as well. And he didn't do great, I mean, we did a great job on him. You just can't run the ball. I think what helps our defense is in practice, we go ones-on-ones for a four, five, six, seven snaps that day in practice. And you're seeing really good guys and really good guys. And we're going to be physical. We're going to run the ball, having four times in a row. And vice versa, they're seeing a great offense. We're seeing a great defense. Now all of a sudden they get out to the game and everyone's slow-motion. You're like, geez, are we seeing it fast as Marcus? Most teams don't have 300 pound tackles like we do. They just don't have them. And if they do, they can't move. And so that's what I think helps us a lot. Well, again, we just mentioned the rushing steps. You got to mention the passing as well. 220 yards per game passing, you held your opponents to 158 yards per game. Yeah, so I mean, our defense gave up 250 yards on average a game. Somewhere around there, we had 436 or something. Right, that was exactly it. You guys averaged 436 and you held your opponents to 264, I mean, almost 200 yards per game. Yeah, so I mean, you're getting a lot more yard, a lot more plays. And I think that's what helps us too. We'd go some sustained drive where our defense wouldn't have to go every three and out. Here we are back. So we'd have some one-play drives for touchdown. We also have some 12, 14, 11-play drive. And our defense is like, let's go. You know, they're getting bored over there because they're out on the field. They come out, their job is to get off the field as fast as possible. Right, I think the next big stat that jumps out is turnover margin. You guys really are unbelievable to see. Yeah, I don't know what that end up. Yeah, you guys only lost eight, you know, you're a plus 24 over all the season. So that's, you know, average. And that's in the top 10. Top 10 in the country. Top 10 in the country. Where's 2.4 games somewhere on there? Yeah, exactly. Which is huge. And the big thing you talk about, I was listening to, I think, Bill Callahan, the coach of the Raiders, talking about, he started, he goes, I realize that the biggest stat is turnover margin. Your turnover ratio, margin or whatever. And we're plus 2.4, which means, you know, I was talking to coach the blocker, our running backs coach. And our running backs, we lost four fumbles all year in the running backs at total. We followed a few other times. We only lost four as a whole running back for the many times that we ran it. That's amazing. I think we only threw nine interceptions, I think, whether it was eight or nine, 10 interceptions. So we did a great job. And our defense was very opportunistic. So I had to spit that word out. Well, the other stat that really stands out is, you guys had twice as much penalty yardage as your opponents. Physical play. Well, this is gonna happen sometime. That's just, you know what? That gives an opportunity to gain more yards on offense. That's right, there you go. That's what I'm telling you right now. But what was it? You guys had 87 penalties for 996 yards for your opponents. We didn't get 1,000? Just under, just under. We got one more off sides. We got, how many have 997? 996, and they had 48 penalties for 462. So quite a difference there. Wait a minute, let's go back to that one again. How many do we have? 87 penalties for 996 yards. 8.7 again, that's not bad. How many did they have? 48 for 462. When a physical team play the soft team and happens like that, whatever I'm telling you. Oakland Raiders. Where are the Oakland Raiders? Where are the Oakland Raiders? Miami Hurricanes, all those guys kind of mixed into one. But it is, I said, we eliminate the stupid penalties. I mean, stupid and sense of jumping off sides on either side of the ball. That's what, I mean, I remember in this game, I think Sammy got a 15 hour penalty for a shot to the head and a quarterback. You know, I mean, he was there, he made a great play. They said he thought he led with his head. That's just, that's an aggressive play. You just say, hey Sammy, just watch. You know, watch head to head contact and we'll be okay. We had one, I think in one penalty we got. I think we had 30 yards on one play in this game. We had a 15 hour, I mean, and there was some kids getting blown up on that play, but we do, we got to do something. Yeah, we only got a couple minutes left here before we got to go to break. I think the other big stat that we have to talk about too is that you guys scored 56 touchdowns where your opponents only scored 22. Yeah, that's a huge test. I think sometimes the points sound great, 401 to whatever, 16, but all of a sudden here, 56 touchdowns we scored, what did they score? 22. 22, that's a huge, that's a huge differential. Yep, yeah. Well, one other thing that we got to talk about too because we don't get much chance to talk about it is Casey Kudrowski in the punny game. You really did a nice job for you. Even though you didn't have to use you two minutes. You guys didn't have to use them too many times. Thank goodness. I told Casey, I love you, but I hate you. If I see you a lot on T, if I see you a lot, Casey, we're not playing very well often, but he did a great job when he got out there making play and doing a good job on the punny game. And that was, we had a lot of good special teams, punning with our best special team, or we didn't get anything blocked, we blocked a few, but we were very good. If we had a punt, he'd boom once somewhere, plus he's Polish. Oh, of course, there you go. So he started, by the time he got on campus, he was a starter. Yep, yeah. No problem. Well, he showed off a strong leg. Because we're going to bring up some of these guys at the next half of the show here, Z. So it's going to be kind of interesting. I know they don't know who it's going to be. No, they don't. But stay with us. We'll be right back with more on the Lake of Locker Room. Properly inflating my tires, burns less fuel, and saves me money on gas. Yeah, I'm saving mother nature from pollution. But more importantly, she saved me 11 bucks. Environmental events. Good grief. By keeping my car regularly tuned, I save money on gas and repairs. That also means cleaner air. You know, it feels good to help save the cash planet. Environmental events. Get green. For more tips, go to getgreen.com. There's a new experience around every corner, as you discover Wisconsin. It's an like you've never seen before. Welcome back to the Lake of Locker Room. Once again, I'm John Weber joined today by Jim Zabrowski. And you can see we changed the set around. And Z, we've got quite a few guys up here. Why don't you guys go ahead and ask some guys up. So first thing I pull out with our captain, we vote on him. You know, the kids vote on him beginning of the season, or beginning of our season in a sense. And Nick Fox starting offensive tackle for us. Over there, Roosevelt Moore in the back, starting linebacker for us. Brent Lupke are starting quarterback. And James Hale are starting wide receiver. So we got a mixture. We got a little mixture. All right, you got a good mix here. We got, I got you guys on the hot seat. You guys don't know where we're going to go with these questions. Brent, you got the most questions. You don't know where you're going to go either. That's right. It's going to be kind of fun to see what happens. I got to ask you the first question. You got a new coach coming in, your fifth year senior. What do you think? What do you expect? You're a little nervous, a little afraid. And the other thing too, being a quarterback as well, an assistant that always threw the ball. Now all of a sudden you got to hand the ball off a little bit more. Were you a little bit worried about that? To tell you the truth, I was only nervous for a little bit until a coach came in. And James Hayes and I interviewed him. And right when he walked in, I mean, it was complete confidence in him. And from right there, we knew that we believed him right away at whatever he told us and whatever he said to us from the program he came to, we believed him. And that's where I gained my confidence from throughout this past season. When he came in and talked to us about bringing in the run game more than the pass or to compliment our passing attack, that was a big part of it. Because as us four have been a part of a program that passed the ball in the past couple of years, we've been successful basically individually, but not as a team. And I think this past year with bringing the run to compliment our pass that we just wanted to win. We wanted to go on a big note. And we were sick of having these five and five records, six and four. We wanted to be a great team. And I think with the run that he brought to compliment our pass that helped us a lot this year. I think you really said it very well. Ze, you want to probably interject there a little bit too. Brent, the great thing I remember most about Brent was, here's Brent, a very strong religious kid. Doesn't swear much. Well, I sometimes use choice words of practice by chance. I don't mean to. By the end of the season, Brent was swearing. And that's how much I screwed him up. So I forgot about the other stuff. Even Brent got filled. But the thing about Brent was, if you look at the last three games, we ended up throwing. We have one interception, which is a Hail Mary against Greenville. We have thrown for 850 some yards and like nine touchdowns in the last three games. And I think the big thing with those guys, especially with Brent was they had never got a lot of individualistic coaching in terms of footwork as always. Everything was scheme-wise in a sense. So our whole coaching staff was just, hey, we got to do fundamental things and hope that, well, fans out. But the biggest thing is getting your older kids to believe in a coach. And if these guys didn't believe, we were going down the wrong river, down the wrong stream, or whatever. But Brent just bought into it. He did what he did. And he said, we're going to do it. And he ended up in the season. He was good all year. He became really great. Well, I think one thing we talked about on some previous shows is the ability of Brent to throw down field, because we haven't really seen it too often, because you've been doing all these short timing routes, everything like that that you guys done the past few years. And also, you get a chance to showcase your arm. How'd you feel about that? I'm sure we're going to talk to you about that in a little bit too, James. So I was great, because in years past, like you said, we had all these little short outroads or blitz beaters. But with this past year and the system that he brought, it gave us a chance to go deep. And I mean, I was always confident in my arm. And I never, like you said, got to showcase it or whatever. But with this offense of the play action passes, we always had guys going deep. And this year, I feel more confident because he felt confident in me. And even when he came to school and we interviewed him, he said that he's going to give us a choice. Even audibles, if the defenders bumped up man to man on a receiver real tight, that we can audible it to going to a deep route. And that made me feel real confident myself that I trust from the coach that never even knew me before this year. Why don't you go ahead and pass that microphone back to James. I'll see what James has to say. James, I think the biggest transition for you, though, I think, is coming in. And all of a sudden, instead of getting the ball throwing your way 40, 50 times, all of a sudden, you're only going to get the ball 30 times a year. I don't know what your final stats where we can look those up. But were you nervous about that? Because one thing I think is really cool about this team and why it all came together. And this is from an outsider looking in. So if someone who knows nothing about football, they're always saying, I don't know about football. There's my disclaimer. But it was just kind of neat to see you guys come together as a team. Because Brent and you guys were shaking your head when he's answering. You guys are just kind of sick of losing or being 500, I should say, more than anything else. But were you nervous about that from your perspective of being a wide receiver? And all of a sudden, you knew you weren't going to get the ball as much. But you're going to be relied upon to block downfield a little bit more. Well, I would say any good receiver that wants to be good wants the ball in their hand in any situation. And I want to be the guy that the ball came my hand. But this man came here and he convinced us that if you put the team first, we will win. And I bought into it. And I flushed everything that I had about myself. And sometimes it does get frustrating for anybody. But you have to remember what is the goal here. And I always remembered. And seeing my teammates catch the ball and me blocking. And because of me doing my job, getting them to score, that's the only thing that I begin to love. And now I like blocking now. I like talking junk and pushing some guys around. But we bought into his program. And I'm glad he came because now we're a great team. Yeah, that's really cool. And that was the biggest sell. The biggest thing, the biggest sell was when you go into a four or five wide passing team. The number one sell is first top. And running back while you have to find some guys to carry the rock, the whole line will be excited. Because they have to come off the ball. They'll always be excited. Hey, we need to do that. That's what I'm built for. God gave me 300 pounds. Let's use it in a way. The receiver there once who had 40 catches each or 50 catches each. And now you guys say, now men, there might be a game. You go and you catch one ball. Or no ball. There are two balls. But you do your job. And the greatest thing by the end of the season was you'd see kids, James, Sean Baron, Jeff Taff. They're getting as excited about making a block. You see their hands up. When they make a great player, the biggest thing, Jeff got the bubble, one of his last catches he caught in his career. James made the block. The spring of Sean blocked. We're getting 20 yards out of the bubble. And Jeff's going, great job, James. And they're all into it together. And even James, I remember, I think it was Greenville. I think Taff caught his third touchdown pass. And James is like, that's my boy. Now that's my boy. And instead of saying, that should be me. Now that's my boy. And I'll always refer, especially those three guys, as their own little clique. It doesn't matter if one guy caught 60, or if the other guy caught together, combined is where you look at those three guys. How many catches did they have together? How many yards did they have? That was really a great deal by those three. They were the biggest thing that they convinced everybody else, hey, we can roll with this now. That was pretty cool. James, you had a great play on Saturday, too, the game at the pass over the middle. Were you thinking you could break that one? Honestly. You looked it and threw it behind you and stepped it. Honestly, when I seen the ball, I caught it. And I said, body, run. My legs didn't go like they used to. And I thought I was gone. And I said, I know I see the guy talking to me. And I got on the field and looked at the coach, like, I'm old. It was wonderful to touch the rock, but hey, I'm old. Well, it's great to have you guys. Obviously, Brent, you're really lucky you guys have just a chance to throw to three great receivers over the course of the time here. And just to see the development of James and Jeff, and Sean Barron, of course. I mean, how do you feel about that? If you can go ahead and pass it back over here to Brent. It's been great the past couple of years. I mean, I've always had confidence. And you know that if a play breaks and it breaks down, and you have to scramble and roll, it was kind of neat this year because we're always on the same page. I mean, no matter what, somehow they found a way to get open. I wasn't always that I got the best ball to where I threw the ball incomplete, but we were on the same page, at least. Yeah, you had three athletic receivers. It was unbelievable that they could make adjustments on the go, so to speak. So let's go ahead and pass it over to Nick. We're going to talk about the defense here. Here we go. There we go. That's a big boy on the mic. Well, we got the offensive lineman here, and I think the one thing you guys have to be proud of, and I think that Brent was especially proud of you guys, is last year, he'd get the ball. And I mean, he was basically, we would say, the old Chuck and Duck were watching on the side. But if you didn't get rid of it right away, he was running for his life. And sometimes he'd catch the ball and get hit. And now, what did you guys do different this year on the line to give him more time? Differently, I think we just had a lot of experience on the old line from me and Shane and Dorian. I mean, we're all seniors. And I think that helped a lot. And then Brian VanLin, Brian Ater, they all bought into it last year. And I think we had a lot of experience. And I think the new system that we brought in, it's easy for other teams to have a defensive plan when you're stepping back and passing 70 times a game. And this year, we're running a lot. So I think I experience a lot like the defensive linemen. They wouldn't come hard. They just sit at the line because they're not sure it's going to happen to them. And then, I mean, we'd use our physical dominance. And I mean, that's what we do. That's right, Brian. You've got to train well. Physical dominance with 2,000 yards of penalty. Well, how does it feel to be an unherald type guy? These three guys get all the headlines, things like that. But you're down on the dirt there. And just kind of getting things done. What does it feel like to be an offensive lineman? It feels good. And they run the ball behind us. That gives us what we need to feel good about the outcome of the game. So I mean, that's all I need. I mean, last year, if they passed, for a touchdown, you're like, you're still happy. You're like, what do you do with this year? This year, they run power right behind you for like a 20-hour touchdown. You feel like you actually did something. The biggest thing about those guys up front, though, like Nick was saying, we simplify the pass. We threw it as much. We simplified the passing scheme. Made protections easier, I think. And the other thing was, they're big boys. And we had very few holding penalties. If you look back on our season, very few holding penalties and a ton of pancakes. A ton of kids getting punished. I mean, you watch tape, we'd stop, we're shaving the quarterbacks, we'd watch tape, but it's always say, hey, watch Fox. Watch V, watch Jordan, watch Shane, watch these guys, just physically piling people. And the holding penalties were so minimal, it was amazing. That was not where a lot of our penalties came from. Other places, yes, but not holding. They did a great job. They were a great job up front. Well, when you're down the bottom of the pile, did you do any of the stuff we've been hearing about twist a guy's knee or ankle or anything like that? Poke them in the eye, anything like that? No, maybe I'll step on their leg a couple of times. Of course, that's not true. We know that, so I'm just saying it's a play. Why don't you go ahead and pass the mic over to Rosie over there. Rosie, let me ask you this question. This is a tough one, too, kind of talking about the new coaching change with the head coach, but now you guys went through defensive coordinators, like they're going out of style, obviously. What was the adjustment? I think it was 4 for 4, was it? Is it 4 and 4? Your fourth defense or third defense quarter? Third, third, yeah. Wow, unbelievable. And what were you thinking this year? You got Coach Creek coming in. Obviously, you got the new head coach, new system again. You guys just got to be just all over the place. You've probably learned every different scheme there is. Well, actually, coach came in with a 4-4 base defense. It was kind of like last year's defense, except it was more aggressive, which I liked, because we set back a lot last year. It's getting killed, kind of. What was new or different about Coach Creek that made him stand out? Because your defense has never been this dominating in the past. It's by far the best statistical year that I've seen in the last five or six years. And what was the difference between this year and previous years? Coach Creek came in most games well-prepared, and he knew what to expect. Most games? Most games. OK, he wasn't prepared at all. Oh, OK, my bad, my bad, Coach, my bad. Yeah, but we did dominate this year. Past way better than last year's. What's the big thing that stands out to you, the biggest difference in this year and the past that you've had, I guess, in the past three years? Blitzing. Coach getting mad, just blitzing everybody. And we did, and Coach Creek came in. I don't think I've ever said to Coach Creek, well, I'd get in the headset once when I don't say, hey, let it loose, whatever you want to do. If you want to sit back, grab your brain, bring as many guys as you can, and let it go. And he did whatever we needed it doing. Those kids played so sound defensively that they could do whatever they wanted to. And I think a big part, I really believe, is when you can go ones-on-ones and practice sometimes, and you're seeing speed on speed, and we're fast. We're fast on both sides of the rock, but we're really fast on defense. All 11 cats can run. And when you got that going, there's a lot. You watch highlights, and there's 11 guys that pound in people and get into the rocks. Rosalind got an unbelievable job buying into a new defense again. They were great. Rosalind, you haven't even seen your stats yet, but you ended up second on the team behind us. Sam Scheringer in total tackles, and you ended up with 51 on the air, assisted in solos as well. So you guys had a really big thing to do at the two. One final question for you. What are you going to do next year? You won't be able to tackle these guys anymore, beat these guys up. What's going to happen? I don't know. Be an adult now. Be an adult, huh? Ask the torch and let it roll. Why don't you pass it over to James, the last James won't follow up. James, what are you planning to do in the future? You've always kind of been a leader of the team. Good press guy, good PR-type guy. What are you going to do now that you're on the side of the van? Yeah, you are. Well, I just joined the Flag Football League. So, you know, hopefully we'll win a ring and I'll flag football and, you know, I think I'm going to miss the competition. So I'm going to try to find anything that I can to get to go against somebody in something. So right now I don't even know my job, just make sure I graduate weight, but right now flag football is what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. How about you, Brent? I'm going to answer that question. You're a fifth year guy, too, so it's going to be tough for you as well. Well, I really wish I had some more years left to play under a coach. I'd learned a lot this year. And, you know, even up until the last day of practice, he was still on me for little mechanics and things that I haven't gotten down. And in that, you should have thrown the bubble to a dent on my quarterback to Rod, just so you know that. Exactly, just like that. I mean, I kept learning throughout the time. And, you know, over the years, like he said before, I haven't really been a coach. You know, it's like, get the ball off however you can. And, you know, I learned a lot this year and I think I would have been even a better quarterback if, you know, I had a couple more years under him. And I think we would have been more successful, just in learning the offense. But I'd like to go on and play anywhere I can. I'm going to try everything I possibly can and see if I can get my name out there. And, you know, if all things fail, then, you know, I'll end up coaching because that's one thing I want to do in the future. Let's go ahead and finish it off with Nick before we go to break here. We've got about 30 seconds left. Nick, what do you think you're going to do now? We're kind of with the other guys, too. Brent, you know, I'm going to try to go on and see if I can get it in Reno ball. I love the game, you know. But I also have my major, the backup on, too. But, you know, I'm just going to, you know, otherwise be a high school football coach. I wouldn't mind doing that. But, you know, this year taught me a lot, you know. I think it helped me with the rest of my life with everything I learned this year. Good. All right, guys. Well, thanks for joining us today on the show. 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Hi, everybody, and welcome back to the Lake of Lockroom. Once again, we're back here at the Lakeland College campus on the Lakeland College Pub. I'm John Weber, joined today by Jim Zabrowski. We've got four new players up here, Zee. Kept trying to grab the seniors up, Johnny Ferguson of D. Lyman Forrest, Eric Boyd of DB, Sean Barron, Jeff Tapp, both wide receivers for us, and I wish I had time to bring all the seniors up, because really, in our program, they're the ones who led us, and you can just name off all the seniors, and they all can treat that with a great job. You know, Forrest, that's the big thing for those guys buying in to what we're trying to do here. Well, let's start with you, Johnny. You got the mic here, so you're a defensive man. He wanted me to say defensive man, not defensive line. I know, that's what I said. He plays ball, he's multi-talent. Well, again, Johnny, you had a great year as well. You had 40 total tackles overall. You really had a good year. Second on the team, Tyfer, second on the team in sacks, behind Nick Zeck. You had five sacks overall, so what do you have to say about that? You know, you have that skilled position, I'm sure, pretty quick, but what do you attribute to that with the new coaching system under Chris Creek again? With the new coaching system, I think it worked a lot better for me compared to last year, where we were playing more passive or whatever. And this year, it's more go ahead and go get it. You know what I'm saying? You go out to the play, we want to be the first one to make the play. Everybody want to make the play. And I think that's why we pursued to the ball so well. Everybody was hungry for the ball. What is the difference between this year's defensive line and last year's defensive line? It just seemed again like you guys, you kind of touched on a little bit, but it just seemed like you guys were a more cohesive unit this year. And again, you guys were just quick to the ball all year long. I think we understood the game a little bit more. We were taught a little bit better probably. And just like I said before, pursuit is probably the number one thing in our defense. And we all were just so hungry to get to the ball. Everybody wanted to be the first one there. And if you weren't, you got talked about in films. They'd let you know about that. And they do a pursuit drill every day to start practice off right off the bat. We do our stretching stuff. We don't really stretch in this program. We just let it go. But when they go, the first thing they do is pursuit drill. If they're not good enough, they're doing up down. The whole drill until they get going. I think the other big thing about the D-line, we have so many kids that could play up there. They could keep rotating fresh bodies in. There are six, seven guys a game that we're playing. You just keep throwing a bunch of fresh guys up there. And there are some beatings going on. And they did a great job. And like he said, coach Mathieu, was a guy coached at Millican. He was an office lineman. Brought him down as a assistant coach. Coach D-line. He did a great job his first year. Had a great group of guys to work with. He just said, pin your ears back and let it loose. And just blow people up as you go. And they did a great job. One final question before you get the mic over to Eric. What are you going to do now? You used to getting together. We talked with Nick on the offensive side, getting down and dirty on the line. What are you going to do now? Well, I don't know. I'll be graduating in December. So I'll wait my options a little bit and see what's going next. I'm not sure. All right. I'll get the mic over to Eric over there. I think Eric, you're a U-per, aren't you? Yes, I am. Yeah, we'll hold that against you. But anyway, you got a good number of U-per's. Well, you know that. A U-per crew is cruising in here. So, Eric, you were back in the defensive backfield. Tell us a little bit again. We've asked the guys obviously the difference between this year and last year. And again, your defense was so much better than last year and so much stronger. What was the difference for you? I think the difference was, well, team-wise, we had a winning attitude for once. Usually, everyone accepted the five and five record, or six and four record this year. The coaches came in and they installed a winning attitude. And that was the biggest difference. And they worked with us. And they had fundamentals. And basically, that's what it was. It was a winning attitude for once. Now, we noticed that you only had one interception on the end. We heard that was because they threw away from you. They were afraid to go your way. That's what I think it is. They got game film. Everyone knows that. In our defense scheme, we play Robert Coverage a lot. We play base for Robert. And he is a quarterback of our defense. And he's making all the calls and the adjustments and so on. A lot of times, he becomes the extra linebacker. So they weren't going to throw. And they just couldn't throw that side a lot of the times. But I think he had a great time. He could come up on run support and blow people up. He said, I haven't played a deep third and just go back there. But he was our quarterback. He was. He came back, he battled the ranger. I mean, he got knocked out basically in Carthage. He played the whole game. Coach Creek and myself spent the night in the hospital with Coach Creek more than I did because I had to drive the bus back with the team. I came back, but came right back and played the next game. You know, part of the next game and where you went. Tough kid. Eric, what are you playing on now that your career is over? I'm probably being in school three more years. But you work here in the pub? Well, I'll be working in the pub all the time in Maya, a few more years at least. Why don't you go ahead and give the microphone over there to Sean Barron. Sean, everybody knows he has the bird, of course, on campus here. What are you going to do? You're 33 years old now. Hopefully they can find a spot for me somewhere. What are you playing on now? I mean, obviously, you had a great career here. You finished off. It was kind of a unique story, too. I think a lot of people don't know your background. Recruited as a baseball player. And, of course, you had some arm problems. And your great baseball prospect had some arm injuries. So then you turned to football. You're a good athlete overall. And you came in and wanted to shoot for football and see what could happen there. And then you ended up being a standout wide receiver for the muskies. It was just an excellent opportunity that I was given. I just, I came in and I never played football before. And I came in and I asked the coach if I could play. I figured I could do it. And I came in and I did it. And then this year came in with Coach Zabrowski. And it's just been a great opportunity from there on out. I didn't learn a lot about football the last couple years. And this year, I feel like I know a little bit more about the game now when I'm leaving. I don't, like you said, it's just been a great opportunity for me. And he's not going to talk very much. But the great story about Bird is we're getting down to the nitty bit. To the crunch time, are you going to play or aren't you? I had to go hunt him down at Home Depot. He works at Home Depot in August. I went to, are you going to play or not? Bro, let's go. Game time decision. That's his only answer. It's a game time decision. I might be there. We'll see me on Sunday maybe. I'm not sure. I'm checking date. I'm like, well, OK. All of a sudden, he showed up on Sunday. I said, OK, let's go. Let's roll. So anytime he said it, are you going to play this week? Game time decision. I'm a little old. My body's a little sore. I'll let it go. But when you watch him, once he really got his body as healthy as it was going to get, those last couple of games, he was outstanding. I mean, you watch the Aurora game and the Greenville game and our last game. I mean, the plays he made were unreal, some of those catches. And you were always a big fan. What did you say last year? They don't throw the ball to Bertie now. You always said you were a big fan. The last couple of games, he was amazing. And he was one guy along with James also. But he really got into blocking by the season. He's as excited for Marcus Denham scoring as he was from self-scoring, but he didn't care anymore. If I catch four balls, great. Two out of the last three games, he came off the sideline saying, Coach, I'm going to fight. Me and 22 are going at it, just so you know. My gosh, brother, just because of blocking, because of going at it. So he was outstanding. Well, Sean, you finished up with 38 catches for 622 yards. 16.4 yards of catching. That's for a slow guy. Exactly. I always said these slow. Seven touchdowns, of course. Well, I think it was another unique thing. He talked about your toughness as well too. People don't realize what some of these guys have to go through the course of the season. How many times do you have to have your knee drain throughout the year, two or three times? And they were talking about they supposedly filled up jars full of fluid. That's the story, at least, I don't know. Big thing is, you just keep going at it. And just coming every day and going to work with the guys that we did, the receiving core. It was great to come with the 10 guys that we had, Coach Worsel, who came in after camp. But it was real great with us. And that kind of just keeps you going. And then the ability to compete on Saturdays. And I was just an honor to play with the guys that I did play with, and Brent Lukey, and with Jeff Taff on the offense. And then Marcus coming in, and James Hayes. It's just guys I've been with for three years on the offense. And it just was a great opportunity. And it just kept me plugging away. Cool. Well, congrats on a great season and a great career. They're a bird. And let's go ahead and play. And he is going to graduate in December. Good to finish up in December. He's always been so old, but he's going to be graduating. Well, I thought we'd finish off with Jeff Taff, why don't you tell us a little bit about him? Because I think there's some questions about some of the records that he might have made out of that. These guys know more. Jeff might know. I think Jeff's family knows more about records than I do in this deal. The kids, the last game, I think the fady cock kind of put him over the top. I think he has the leading. I think he might end up being the leading receiver in the history of the school in terms of receptions, which is huge because it was a throwing team. I think that the reception got him over. But the great thing about Jeff, just every day, he's going to make plays. And he was totally another kid who just said, hey, somebody has a blog, I think we're down in the season. I think he caught one ball against Tri-State, one or two. I think he got one ball against Tri-State. And after that, he never knew how many balls he caught. All of a sudden, 10, 8, 6, 4. But here's our big play guy, and he just made plays. And I think that he is going to be the career leader in the history of the school in terms of reception. And his tolls just kept going. Now, I'd start going, honestly, in a game plan. I thought, Coach, can sell our online coach. I say, hey, we just got to make sure that Jeff's going to get a certain number of touches. He's our punt return, kick return guy. But we never, game plan, specific thing. We just let the ball loose, and the ball started finding different people. But Jeff was outstanding. He just loved watching him because he never really gets stroke. He never really gets hit. He makes somebody miss on the way he goes. Yeah, we call him the poor man, Barry Sanders. You didn't know this couple of years. You didn't know the poor man, Barry Sanders. That's right. 54 catches, 760 yards, 13 over 13 yards of catch. Eight touchdowns, 135 all-purpose yards. Do everything, man, as Jim said. What was it like for you this year? Nice, obviously, a big change for you. I don't know. I mean, I guess you know you're out there and all that stuff. But beginning of the year, I was at trial cramping up and stuff like that. And I always did in high school, but we got over that. Yes, we did. Got through that point. But like everyone else has said, too, and I'll probably say it again right now, that just other coaches probably could come in here and this whole new staff. It's just been great for all of us. I don't mean to cut you short. We only got three minutes left on the show. You know what, Jeff's never going to talk about himself. And his family, I mean, we have so many great fans and family support. His mom and dad might, I don't know what they're going to do without Jeff playing football. They might still, I knew they were a $1 game still. Next year, they're looking for Jeff out there somewhere. What are they doing now, Jeff? What's your next step? Right now, I've got to start my job again and work at the Boys and Girls Club here. Like, hey, Sid, I'm trying to get that flag football league. Maybe I can work that on my schedule sometime. And also, I'm going to be helping recruiting with Coach Creek in the office. So we'll see how that goes. Maybe hopefully, you know, play a little arena ball or something like that, or some different teams. If I keep playing, I mean, I'd love to do it. Well, congrats on all you guys on a great season. We got to wrap it up with Coach Z. We only got about two minutes left. Coach Z, one thing that stood out here is, hey, you just brought four seniors up with this group. The last thing when we had four or more seniors, what are you going to do next year? I know, and we ended up with 15 or so. And I think what they leave with us is they leave with us those guys. They've taught the guys below them in a sense of years. This is how you play the game. This is how you got to play. And they did, I think, what helped us out a lot was, we are old in some areas. We're losing the 50s. But there are a lot of guys who played for us. There's a lot of different guys in different areas that ended up being, I mean, Marcus Denner was a freshman. We have other guys playing there. Gwen Brouser was a freshman. And our left side of the offense line, we're sophomores. And D-line, we lose Ferg and Looch, two-day loss. But we ended up playing five other guys who played. So they've taught the guys how to play. And I think the fun thing was, after the bad acting game, I let the seniors talk like I always do. And I just kind of eavesdropped a little bit and so on. They tell me, this is the start of something. Don't let this be a great, no, we got a chance to roll. And I tell them, you're a start of something really special. And these guys, I'm always going to hold so close to my heart because they led me into their little world for a year. And we got a great opportunity to do a great job. But I think we have a lot of great young guys who learn from these guys. Well, Coach, see, I got to wrap it up here again, of course, and tell us what else is going on the Lakeham College campus. Congratulations to you and your staff and the players, of course, on a great season. Coach Cansella, Coach Creek, Coach Robertson, Coach Worsel, Coach Kelsidge, Coach Zablok, you might miss an anybody, Coach Matier, I think. They all did a great job, my staff was awesome. OK, well, of course, again, the Muskie football team finishes 8 and 2, the best record since 1997 when they finished 10 and 0, is one of the top five seasons in Lakeland College history. So congratulations to the Lakeland College football team, second place in the line-eye-bedge or football conference shooting for first next year. And the school's first automatic NCAA bid. Speaking of that, we had two teams that did get the automatic NCAA bid. The women's volleyball team earned their second straight NCAA trip. Of course, they had a nice tournament this weekend. They swept Mirian 3-0, and they go ahead and move on. They're going to play UW-Whitewater in the first round. Good luck to the women's team. And the women's soccer team as well, got their first ever NCAA bid. They won 3-1 over Concordia to get their first bid. They're going to go ahead and travel down to St. Louis and to Washington University. So thanks again for joining us. Thanks to TVA for bringing us out here. Thanks for the club. Thanks for the club letting us in. And again, we'll see you next time on the Lakeham locker room.