 You were in the organization when he was drafted in 92 when you looked at the skinny kid from Kalamazoo Could you have ever envisioned him being a Hall of Famer? No, I think it was kind of hard for everybody to envision Something like that at that time and the same thing goes for you know, just about everybody You know and in that situation when I signed You know, it's probably midnight in the mid 80s, you know I started getting playing in the big leagues and 91 I was a skinny kid about probably about six two one 75 180 and Nobody really envisioned that I would have the career that I had You know in the big leagues as well. So it's really really hard to tell. I think you know body Why you see, you know the person Evolving and gaining weight and and getting stronger But I think you know the biggest component of this is it's mine my frame and his attitude towards the game and as he Is able to make adjustments through adversity that he will find in his minor league career and then coming into the big leagues really taking it all in stride and You know making sure that he wasn't the best Condition Physically and you know emotionally to play the game. He had a great support system with his parents Dr. Charles Jeter and his obviously his his mom as well. They were there and I remember them being there through most of I mean Probably all of his career And I think I've not really helped him a lot, you know to have that support system though. It's very solid I think he enabled him to you know, not worried too much about distractions and because I think he had a lot of People to be accountable to and it helped him a lot Nonetheless, I think he had an awesome career He was a great teammate and he carried the captain role with you know the dignity and You know the expectation that everybody would expect from that role I mean he he was just a great player and it will deserve, you know him being in the whole thing Do you have an example on what made him such a great leader? Well, I think you know for me it was the fact that he didn't really spoke that much Unless he was called upon to talk and when he did everybody would listen I think he was more in the term on on, you know the same lines of dog matter league You know the captain before he became a captain in my tenure I was more of a leader by example, and I think you know He's biggest attribute was that he did things who were in the course of the game that would never be, you know Quantifying any stats But they were just so important in determining the outcome of the game You know to case in point, you know that that flip in Oakland, you know getting a Jeremy Jamby in home plate You know, it's like an orthodox plan He had to think outside the box and he did at a moment that it was so crucial in the game and his career is It's full of those moments That you know, you would never see in the fat, but you will you know once you start tallying up, you know He was definitely so so determined to win and Really important in you know, obviously in our success