 Welcome to ToffeeTV, it is the TransFish show, it's our chance to have a look at the weeks news in terms of TransFish. Last week we thought it was really starting to hot up, it wasn't, no it sort of just plateaued, we had a couple of big deals done but this week very little. Do you think that's because, I think that's because teams have actually come back to training now, a lot of the big teams and they're all getting away for their tours, when you're going to Australia and things like that, so it's just a week off on the TransFish market. So you've just literally named one team that's gone away out of all of it. I just think some players are still away aren't they? It's weird now, it's really difficult to judge when things are going to, you should build up to a crescendo didn't it, and like transfer that line there, it was a big scramble now. I don't know, there's been a bit of change though hasn't obviously, Lampard's gone into Chelsea so you don't know whether they can buy or they can't, I mean they've got COVID since didn't last week, and Marata joined Athletic Home and said permanently and stuff like that, so he's sort of settled down and so it seemed to have no money to really, although saying that William Salibar is very close to completing his move from St Etienne. He's going to go back on loan now isn't he? I don't know, what's a brilliant sign, if he goes back on loan that's a great deal for St Etienne, but I think if I was asked I'd be keeping, trying to keep him there because they need centre backs don't they? But for one reason or another it hasn't quite caught fire yet, has it? No, there's a lot of potential moves and a lot of things that are bubbling under and I suppose it just hasn't kicked on for any of the big clubs I mean that, I mean the one that we've been talking about for weeks is Pogba, he's flew away with Manchester United to the tour of Australia, that's sort of, I don't know, Salt Guy's got back and he started talking about him in really good terms, he's saying you know the rumors are he's asking for one more year, he's saying he's no problem, there's no attitude, he's a really good professional. So they want to keep him, Pogba does want to come out right away, like I said the other day he wants to leave, but what I find interesting about that one actually is that one Pogba, no real shooter has emerged yet, no one's really come out from the other side and said we want him, you know with someone like, has had, you knew straight away that Real Madrid wanted him and he wanted to go and Chelsea were left in a situation where they just had to take the money, but with Pogba there's no one really saying we want him, you've had a bit of a little dabble but they've got 80 million in the fielders, Real Madrid, well there's a story that I say in Real Madrid, they've got to move six players before they can bring Pogba in, so whether that's holding it, it just seems at the moment that there's a lot of teams want to do stuff but it's a case of moving other people out first before they can really get stuck into what they want, so I mean I don't know whether that's, is this FFP finally getting a hold of things or what? Do you know what, I don't know one thing I think it is though, I think it's, I really do think it's it's an escalation of player power, I really do, I think that a lot of players and we've got this, we've had this problem is a lot of players are sitting on big wages and they're not prepared to leave, they're not prepared to drop the wages that because we're going into that FFP now, because you wait for the fines and they are putting out bans and things like that, clubs are starting to take it really serious now and there's going to have to, there's going to have to be some kind of shift I think in the way we do transfers, I've been looking at the NBA actually and the way they do it and the way that player power is just absolutely right, I mean you sign a contract there, you get massive wages and then you leave at the end of it or they pay whatever's left on the contract to get you out of it and I don't know whether we're heading for that but I just think players would like it to be like that because we're sort of an impasse at the moment, we're never going to pay average players those kind of wages ever again because you can't get rid of the players so maybe there's going to be this next couple of years where there are a lot of those players at a lot of clubs and I'm going to be on those wages, maybe the structure of contracts are going to have to be different, going to come down to bonuses or things like that because it's not sustainable like it is, I think you just made a really good point when you said about clubs are finding hard to get rid of those players, so those players are sitting there, whoever they are, big clubs, little clubs, whoever, on really good money and the clubs don't want them there and whatever those players might want to sit there but no one's willing to offer them what they're on so we're going to have to come to a more beneficial arrangement for both sides I think for the transfer market to move more freely every year because at the moment it just doesn't seem to work for either the player or the club. Yeah I think it's right, I think there's two sides to it, the clubs are starting to, and it may be to do with FFP, it may just be to do with clubs going actually, we have to start thinking about how we're doing our business because every year the wages go up, the transfer fees go up and almost having money now, a lot of people have got money so there's not as much need certainly in the Premier League, there's not as much need to get, to sell for big money, you know, Palace are asking for big money for Wilf Sahar, Leicester City are asking for big money for Harry Maguire because they've got money as well and but also because they're trying to, I suppose to think if we get big money for him we can then go and buy a couple of players, if not we'll keep our asset, whereas you know recent times people have gone, well he's an asset, we just have to sell him because he wants to go, now clubs are going well the player is happy to sign a contract, that's one side of it, but the other side of it, he's the player going well am I in an all right money, I'm under no pressure there, if someone else gives me that same money I'll move brotherwise, why should I? And we saw a bit of that on the Sunderland documentary with Jack Rodwell really, whereas he was on big money and they were saying to him please go, so we can sign three players for your wages and he was like well why should I? You were happy to give me that contract, it hasn't worked out, why should I leave? I think football clubs but players more important need to start getting more realistic about how their wages, they come into a team when they're young, they shouldn't expect this massive contract straight away and that should be universal so that every player when they're young is on similar kind of money and then they aim the right to be on big wages essentially that's gone out the window hasn't it and that's of course in all the problems it's gone out the window because teams are scared to lose their bright young things, that's why so teams start to go we'll give you a new contract a year after having a contract and it's on three times the money and you're like, but that's a problem on its own isn't it, because the rules were changed a few years ago, four younger players and we're seeing that this summer there's rumours of Liverpool bringing in a 16 year old from Fulham for basically nothing there's no compensation so when the football the powers of Bay decided to remove that compensation then that made it like you just said we're going with a 16 but we'll instantly reward them so you're saying straight away to either football club for the 16 year old you've got to give them a big contract, sit 16 or you're going to lose them and whoever you're losing to are going to give them a big contract because they're not going to have to pay Elliot isn't it, the kid of Fulham and he's apparently shining a world record deal for a kid of 16 so we had that situation at Chelsea didn't we one of their kids was on 40 grand a week or something and never played a game with a fair team and you're like, you're ruining those young players as well because you're getting unrealistic and you're removing a bit of the desire as well surely the hunger is getting there and then you're rewarded all of that team to have gone out the game and hopefully we have a change because I think the recent years there's just been an impasse I'm seeing it this year, the systems don't tally up I've an FFP doesn't tally up with this so you've got clubs like Barcelona and clubs like Real Madrid and Paris Saint-Germain who are looking at this squad going, you're never playing, you're never playing, you're never playing we've got to get rid of you and they're like, where do you want me to go? Where do you want me to go and have me on the same wages so but it's mad that those clubs are having to sell as well and it's showing its effect we mentioned the Epoch but we don't know what's going to happen there because Man United don't want to sell and there aren't any clubs as I said that have put their heads over the parapet another player we've been speaking about a lot in the last few weeks is Neymar he was due back for pre-season this week with Paris Saint-Germain he never quite made it he told them he wasn't coming back so it was like basically he was just like well I told them I wasn't coming back and he was like yeah but we didn't agree to it you just told us so he hasn't come back they're discussing what fine to give him apparently he's not going to get his monthly bonus I mean what is he getting a monthly bonus for in July anyway? share sale breathing so not a wage fine his bonus is getting withheld apparently he obviously wants to leave Barcelona obviously we've been talking about for weeks I reckon Real Madrid are also going to get involved in this which would be very very interesting having Hazard and Neymar in the same squad and with that work I don't see him going to Real I think he'll go to Barcelona I think he enjoyed his time at Barcelona but that wasn't to be the main man it was a bit of frustration because he wasn't where he went back now Lionel Messi's there he's still amazing of course but that was again that was an example of wanting something too quick he was always going to become the main man but he just had to buy this time like in any job you buy your time till it's your time to take over from the person and for me I think he's wasted the last two years I think he's absolutely wasted them I don't think he's got better I think he's not gone on and won anything really apart from the French league which I think you'd expect anyway you know we've just watched Brazil win the Copa de America without him I just think he's wasted he's made a lot of money don't get me wrong he's wasted a lot of money probably has wasted a lot of money made a lot of money but I think his career would be in a much healthier place if he'd stayed I think Barcelona would have been in a much healthier place if he'd stayed though I don't think the deal suited any either they didn't want to sell him anyway he did need to be fair he got a big £200 million for him and you know he went there and booked loads of money and all that but you're right he's not really kicked on he's had the experience of playing in France but now he sees himself in a position see that's another thing for him isn't it he wants to go to Barcelona and he's got to wait for all kinds of things to fall into place now to get there he's on big money at PSG so it's not like he's got to pick up a lot of clubs unless he takes a massive pick up there needs to be some of these players need to what's mad about this this is an ongoing saga because we've got the whole Griezmann situation which hasn't been sorted out apparently it should have been sorted when's the tent? it was yesterday it was yesterday it was supposed to be sorted out on the tent it hasn't been so they didn't dispute with him over why he hasn't been back to the tent so it's all these things that are just do everyone's in Limbo? not everyone but a lot of them they're just all sitting waiting for things to drop into place but clubs there's going to be fire sales everywhere there'll be other fella on there it's in Limbo there's only Garret Bale Bale isn't done you know people are talking about United people are talking about Arsenal but China now as well China because of the money well if you look for him Real Madrid have said he's not going on loan it's a buy or we'll keep him he's on big money to get him you still have to pay big money he's 29 injury record hasn't been great of late who's going to pay the money he's on for a 29 year old if you're not sure what you're going to get off him there'll be a few clubs who take him on loan and have a goer and see if he can spares me I don't know but things have moved now and he's left you know when he might be born that goes later on so I mean that could kick off in the next couple of weeks and if it does I think there'll be a fire sale at Barcelona at Real even Paris Saint-Germain there might need to be a bit of a fire sale because they might have to re-prioritise what they do well Leonardo's coming isn't he and him in social apparently a little bit apart from what you think but Leonardo's not it's not a given that Mbappe's honestly so you're like well you don't know the man who owns the thing is saying he's not going anywhere he's the face of PSC for the next five years and you've got the director of football going you might sell him but he's still got fat four years like I think Leonardo's a bit more realistic in terms of Mbappe if things don't move on the way Mbappe wants them to and he's only young but if they don't then he will want to leave but Real Madrid, he's got Real Madrid all over him he has he's got Real Madrid there's a Dan Link's there as well well PSG apparently a monotone the Griezmann thing because well that's it I think Paris Saint-Germain needs to start looking at it and thinking we need to build a team not round superstar individuals but build a team that gets us to where we want to go I think that's been the both these superstars to raise the profile and you can understand that like you go back go back four, five, six years you know Paris Saint-Germain where just another friend's team but with a lot of money of course but they've elevated themselves and they've become a little bit more now and commercially they're getting big and they've got these tie-ins with Jordan and all these things so they're becoming a brand a name in the game so but I think they've got to start looking at it and go we need to just build a team and just get rid of all these superstars Griezmann would be a really good start Griezmann is a well-cut winner in the peak years of his career would fit in brilliantly there but for me if Neymar goes and I know they've got him back out so they've got a ready-made start there French on the well-cut bring another one on the other side like Griezmann then you've got genuine players there they've got to build a side and for me I think that's the way you need to start looking at it so definitely but again we're just waiting on me we're on the thing where you're waiting for one it's almost like ducks in a row in it with some of the clubs one will start and it'll do them an effect won't it I mean less the city they brought Tealamans in for £40 million which sucked the option up they've spent a fair bit of money with Peres last week they did me for £30 million so they've spent £70 million and some people are saying they're spending the Maguire money but then again if no one comes in for Maguire I mean do you see him going to Man City? No I can see him go to Man United I can see them paying the money for him late on I don't know I don't know about late on but they really need to they really need to centre back and they don't seem to be looking anywhere else and he's apparently sure he's so less that he wants to leave yeah definitely apparently they're looking at Lewis Dunc yeah it's not an ideal situation but I'd say there's a lot of those ones that we spoke with Arsenal earlier they won him but they haven't got the money to go and get him they've offered players to go there but they don't want other people's like they want players that they want which is what the money would get them they've already sold one basac so to sell the crown jewel they need to go out and buy good players but again Arsenal they've got targets but they haven't got the money to get the targets that's why if they do get Salabar and he goes back it doesn't really make sense I don't know what the damn payment is maybe that's the point the damn payment might be 5 million and they can swallow that cost and pay the rest next year I don't know but they need to centre back desperately they're linked with Malcolm but they have no money to buy him they want to have but they can't buy him at the moment so they're in a little bit of a situation they might be waiting for a couple of bits for the error or something like that and they think we'll be losing him and that money will get us him they're flying out to America they're flying out without Kishelny he's in the last year of his deal and he wants to be released to go freight to France that's nice for him isn't he so they're flying over to America with that hanging over their head as he mentions the hardest on the African nations he scored the goal of the day he's been left out of the Crystal Palace which is weird considering he is the absolute crown jewel for them to be left off the post that is weird isn't he yeah but like you just said if he's away but I know they can follow that would have been a long time ago wouldn't it you'd have that done wouldn't you again we're all waiting for that to happen if that happens then Palace can go and buy players they're interested in Adam all the luck man but he's going to Leipzig they're missing out on targets if they're missing out on targets they're going to turn around to ask them you either pay or you don't because we want to go and buy players and we're missing out on them we're not prepared to sell them later on when we can't buy anyone so that's why it's interesting especially in England with only a month to go obviously Europe it's later I just wonder whether this year I know last year we sort of got away with it and I'm all for the window shut I just wonder whether this year it might be a little bit more interesting you know but I mean everything just seems at the moment like it's for a lot of clubs it's ground to a halt doesn't it everyone's like you blink the gears have just stopped haven't they let's move on to West Ham they struggle to bring in strikers they try to bring in well they wanted Maxi Gomez they met his buy out he wants to go to Valencia that's not done yet but it looks like he was going to Valencia so they turn their attentions to Germany the bid for him apparently the bid is accepted and the player has rejected them they've gone back for Maxi Gomez to see if they can get something done but as of yet there's nothing happening so they're a they're a classic case aren't they in the Premier League with a club that want to do something and putting it out there you know we're bid for this player but the players just don't want to come do you want some music football yeah I suppose you've got a the money will money will get you a lot of players they will because players are greedy let's be honest but there's also a situation where it's level of player that you can get and it's the project isn't it whether people are interested in your project I don't know what West Ham is selling when they go to these players I don't know whether the players looking will be with 10th last year and not interested and who knows because some players you can still get because of the Premier League's a big pull but those two players in particular might have their own career paths made up Seb Haller might be looking and going you've just gone all out for Maxi Gomez and it's all over the press do you think though part of me does think that I'm not saying West Ham haven't bid for these players but do you think there might be a case of well if we make a lot of noise we'll satisfy our fan base because we're trying to sign them maybe other clubs will go in for a bid without the attention of the press or without making it public get knocked back and then walk away and go well we tried but we don't want to make a big deal of it whereas West Ham seems to like to shout about the fact that they are make it very public that you're trying to bring players in where that screams to me that you're just trying to satisfy the fans need for players it's hard to shake isn't it because they wanted and they go home and they couldn't get them but then they went and bought fornals and they didn't have a lot of fornals so they did go and buy them a field player so it is difficult to say that they're just doing it to caught attention and to basically say to the fans we are trying I don't know if they've met and asked them price and the club has said they have met it and they must have done us a favour I believe the reason why the first thing they didn't go well was sell to the ego the structure of that deal is pathetic we're not paying us three million for 40 years one of them so there is that you can go to a club and go we'll pay for Neymar give you like a pound a week 30% off in the shop I don't know but it's difficult to say that they're doing that I feel like they ask that because they need a sense of form they've lost Andy Carrill he's a big loss owner Andy Carrill has gone out of it I'm not saying they haven't got money I'm not saying they haven't got money some clubs would do that would put the bid in quietly and then when there's something to talk about they sign on them then they make it public the problem you've got when you shout about it is it brings attention to it from every angle so that's what I'm trying to get at with Seb Halle if they're shouting about Maxi Gomez everywhere and you're Sebastian Halle and then they come to you thinking well why wasn't I your first choice and then I'm not going to go to a club that is in a little bit of turmoil almost if I'm not your first choice some players will I'll take my chance I understand there's different options but maybe he just looks and thinks he can do better another club in Claret and Blue they have made a couple of signings so they brought in Taran Mings from Bournemouth he was on loan last season 26 million for him and they've also brought Conza in there's Lee Conza so they've gone for the defence trying to get the defence sorted a couple of rumours about goalkeepers they were looking at the Stoke goalkeeper Jack Butler and now they're looking at the Burnley goalkeeper and I can't remember Tom Heaton so obviously they're looking to get there back for next season which is a good place to start but 26 million for Mings in the four years of being at Bournemouth played a handful of games 26 million he bought some for big money didn't he and he got an injury immediately he was out for the season I don't think he's ever recovered properly not well enough to get in Bournemouth but he done well at Ville and loads of Ville fans were made up that he kept them so suppose it's a bit like a Gomez for us or if you get a player in and he does really well you think well he knows the club we know what we're getting from him the Premier League is different to the Champions League I do find it interesting or this is Aston Villa do this time last year we're on the verge of collapse essentially and now there's some of the playing 26 million but they've got a suppose for them if they've cut their cloth accordingly in the championship they didn't though did they I know they got a new owner but it just they're going to get 130 million but this is the thing though isn't this the thing about the Premier League it's like clubs come in and immediately the reason why they were skinned and nearly went bust was because of these reasons what did they do what Huddersfield did and last year teams like Cardiff Fulham Fulham and the other way Fulham spent 150 million with horrendous because they ripped the team up with they brought players in for some big money they didn't shoot them and ended up going down Cardiff didn't really do anything and just relied on what they had and nearly worked for them and obviously if Emiliano Salah that strategy wouldn't have happened he might have stayed up he went that far away then Huddersfield spent a little bit of money in the first season and stayed up and then second season didn't really spend much and ended up going down so what did they do did they just come up and go we'll just go with what we've got and hope that it's good enough to fill it we want to try and have enough to hang on I think the problem that a lot of clubs make is they have these ideas of grandeur when they get promoted like Fulham did last year Wolves I think Wolves were already established but I still, and it might be come back and bite me I don't think they'll have as good a season this season they were brilliant but they're the exception rather than the rule what you try to do when you get promoted is just stay in for that season and then do what the likes of Bournemouth did and a stab and bright and have done a stab with yourself bringing in means and that's a play that you already had it just the money it just seems to be but we've been saying you're a day then deals now that's like the standard Premier League deal now innit well let's round off sort of something we've talked about before in terms of young players West Brom have lost a young player Louis Barry I don't think he's got a son he's quite easily he's 16 year old and he's gone to Barcelona and there's nothing West Brom can do about it it's interesting because 15 odd years ago players like Fabricas will leave in Barcelona to come to the Premier League and do very little but there's nothing Barcelona can do about it it's gone the other way now so there's there's silence out there and the likes of Barcelona are looking at it Barcelona might be using their head and think well in three years we'll sell them back to the Premier League club for really good money well there's a couple of kids who've gone over the last couple of years to Barcelona haven't they I remember there was a kid about three years ago there was about 12 blonde kids who thought everyone was after I don't know what's happening to him but he went to Barna it was big news his dad was like well to Barcelona he doesn't come back he'll have had that experience so I don't know what I can't remember his name I don't know what he's done if he's done anything maybe he's at Le Meiser and he's boss but you know for Louis Barry you look at it and go it's Barcelona at the end of the day if he's good enough he's obviously caught the attention somehow hasn't he so he might be a really good player and he might go there and thrive like you say Mike in a couple of years he's still going to be back to proposition because he'll be 18 19 at Barcelona so clubs will go we'll take a chance on it who knows he could be the next Messi he could be there you go that is not your thought anything we spoke about any of the transfers anything what's holding it up what do you think just before we finish what about the likes of Liverpool who haven't really done any business what did he do who did he bring in when you look at it because it's how you boost that squad that's got 97 points and won the Champions League how do you make it better is there a day a little bit like Spades Spades are the lesser level of if you take something out of it it might be as good because I think that's what Spades has suffered with Liverpool are on a better level I think what Liverpool have to do is replace some of the squad players so improve on the line that's for me what they need to do the full backs get better replacements for the full backs things like that and I think that's where Liverpool improve but other than that I don't know they have to go and get the very best talents as we've seen it's not easy to do that so yeah that is what you thought in the comments on anything we spoke about when do you think the transfer market will start really kicking in give this video a like please helps the channel, subscribe if you haven't already and if you want more great videos join us on Patreon see you later