 the public may comment on any issue in the purview of the district that is not on the agenda tonight and does anybody want to make a comment I see two attendees but I don't see any hands up seeing none hearing none we'll go ahead and proceed to the next item on the agenda yes Lois could there be a director's report that's what's coming up next on the agenda Lois okay so I had a couple of things that I was going to say and then I'll turn it over to you is that right yes ma'am okay um so what I first I have two things I wanted to report and the first one was that we understand that our director of finance and business services Stephanie Hill um has resigned effective the end of the month we want to thank Stephanie for her years of service to the district and I particularly am grateful for all of her work pushing us ahead to finally get our first biennial budget out and particularly for um pushing ahead on a much more efficient way to collect our delinquent accounts which we'll hear about shortly as the first item of business Stephanie we wish you all the best in your future endeavors the second item has to do with a comment that was made at the last board meeting Jim Mosher asks that the staff prepare a summary for the ratepayers of the major issues raised in the EIR that the city of Santa Cruz submitted in support of their water rights petitions so in response to that Rick called a meeting of Carly Mike Podlick who is our fisheries person Mark Smalley me and Gina and based on our joint reading of various parts of this document we concluded that there was very little in them in the EIR that bore directly on our water rights we will write a comment on a handful of fairly minor issues but given that there is nothing in the EIR that wouldn't be better addressed directly by going making comments on the water petitions themselves we won't be producing a critique of the EIR because it would be a poor use of staff time to do that for this Bohemath document which is like 759 pages long um Lois did you yes I had something I wanted to say as I've mentioned before this is my 11th year being on a water board and during those years I have attended so many meetings telling me how board members should behave and I've also worked for a board as a credit union person I was very disturbed today to hear Bob Fultz on KSCO tell people why they should vote against the fire um surcharge because what I've always been told is as a board when the board votes on something and you don't like it you get to vote no but it's the majority vote for it and and you vote no fine but you don't go out it's unseemly to go out and fight against your own board to undermine what they decided you just don't do that and even though it doesn't say it in our board policy manuals it's just the way things are supposed to be and I really am disappointed that you did that today Bob I think it was a wrong thing for you to do and you're selling your usual stuff while you were doing it and it's and I think you've made your point yeah okay yeah and I think that okay all right we'd like now to go on to the new business which the first one is delinquent water charges to be placed on the county property tax rolls uh yes uh thank you and the finance manager uh is here to present uh this to the board Stephanie so as you know we've had this multiple times and so this is the district's way of doing a better form of collections without turning off customers for non-payment it is going to be starting to move towards going on the property tax roll um we wanted to start this process last year but due to COVID we obviously didn't want to move forward at that time at this time we are moving forward we're still being mindful of that to where these are for people that had balances as of 12 31 2019 and earlier part of this packet does have the listing of the APNs and the total dollar amount of delinquencies nbs is the third party that's helping us do this they have done a first scrub to help eliminate past due accounts that have a assessed value at less than $2,000 which means that they don't receive property tax bills which means we aren't allowed to place items on the property tax roll so this has gone through the first scrub with nbs um they will we will be going through and reviewing to ensure that all of the parcels line up with who the recorded owners are at this time um but in general this is going to be the process that the district will be pursuing each year um around this time we do have to submit the final report to the county by 8 10 each year and each year they're going to want um the new agreement signed similar to to what this one has and so we can answer any questions that you may have okay we'll go ahead and start Jamie did you have any comment that you want to make on this no i mean i think i'm prepared to move this i i agree that this is the next step we need to take in this process and also i want to say stephanie we're so sorry to be losing you and um we wish you the very best of luck yeah i'd like to echo that stephanie that wish you the very best of uh in your new opportunities i'm assuming we'll learn where you're landing soon and uh don't be a stranger um i am fine with this as everybody knows i've been in favor of this for a long time so i'm very happy that stephanie has brought this to us for our first foray into the property tax roll process thank you okay lois yes uh thank you stephanie gonna miss you uh i know that this works and it's a good thing to do and i've mentioned before they teeter even if the right payer doesn't pay his taxes we still get paid because the county knows eventually they will get their money either when the property sells or something um i i don't know if they they sometimes have a dollar limit but i i didn't see anything higher than like four thousand dollars so i'm i would imagine that's not too high anyway great job stephanie mark uh two questions more just for my education stephanie what's the period of times uh service in months that the the accounts particularly the the larger ones have been outstanding am i reading it correctly that some of these are as old as 2017 oh no they go way far back than that we have some that haven't paid in a decade and there's no form of contact they're not using the water um and so some of these are just sitting here accruing the basic fee every single month um some of the ones that are hitting that super high amount are actually the parcel a couple of them we did have to remove this was originally around 90 000 um it's now down to about 60 something and that's because some of these parcels we aren't able to even assess because there's such a low land value um and so some of these have been spanning for a very long time i see so we haven't continually been providing water correct all of these account yes all of these accounts have um leans currently against them and have water shut off okay so dormant services um have we used this process before what's been our success rate with it if we have i don't believe i've heard of our district utilizing this in the past rick may know more about that but i i didn't find anything from myself or obviously myself and um the person that was in this position for about a decade before me i didn't have any records so this will be a first um this one obviously is going to be carrying the higher balances the next time we go around this process it'll look a little bit different it's going to you know it's going to be active you know potentially active customers where they just haven't paid their bill we're going to be able to sit there and eventually it's only going to be them being a year in in arrears uh to where you know they have a thousand dollar bill 500 of it is from this prior year period we on the property tax roll 500 take that off of their account um so next year look a lot different this will i'm anticipating will be a much longer list i see okay well i applaud you're getting this in place for us um in the last weeks that you were with the district i appreciated working with you um and the professional nature that you've approached these things in so sorry to see you go but um the best of luck in your future endeavor um we have a recommendation from the staff uh that the board adopt a resolution uh that was in our packet which approves a statement identifying which delinquent water charges shall be submitted to the county of santa cruz for collection on the property tax roll and authorizes the district to enter into an indemnity agreement required by the county and to provide additional information required by the county somebody like to move that i'll move it second i'll second that okay um i'll go out to the public to see if there's any comments on that um we have two attendees um would they like to comment on the motion that's on the table seeing none hearing none i'll bring it back to the board for one final round if anybody wants to say something otherwise i'll go ahead and ask um holly to um take the roll call though please president may hood hi vice president henry yes director ackman yes director foals yes director smally yes the resolution passes thank you the next item on our agenda is the long pico assessment district annual report for 2020 and i think there was some hope uh that we would doesn't doesn't look like she's here so marianne are you are you going to be the one that gives the presentation on this then you're you're allowed to speak now marianne okay i had a unmute this is okay can you hear me yes we can oh okay cute there's a sign here that says i hope so like you to speak so i'm speaking so uh attached to this um your agenda for today is the latter 2020 annual report and it's ready for the board to approve and we'd love it to be linked to the selenrenzo valley water district website and if anyone had any questions to any of it please do ask okay um let's see if there are any board members that would like to ask questions bob we'll start with you i just wanted to make sure i understood on the um uh on the projects that are remaining the um permanent connection rick isn't that part of the projects we identified on the um 15 million dollar loan that's correct it'll go and design this year this fiscal year and then in construction the following fiscal year and so that would really leave the replacing all the service line connections of which there are about 500 left less than 500 um that would be the last uh without having the the documents in front of me that would be the last project and and we're doing those on an as needed basis is that i mean that is part of the assessment this district um promises though correct it is part of the assessment districts that's correct um however we've kind of reorganized the priorities uh due to the fact that you know we've exceeded the assessment district funds and the service lines have exceeded uh before with the higher pressures running in limpiko uh several of those were leaking uh quite frequently several a week and now that we've lowered the pressures taken the uh the leaks have diminished down to maybe you know one a month or every other month so we've cut back as far as the assessment district funds and now we're doing a replacement uh through the maintenance budget okay i think we might want to perhaps do some kind of a level set on that at a future time but mariana i really appreciate the work that your team and yourself did on this these reports are i think very very helpful um and i'm really glad that you know within a couple of years here we've been able to get the majority of these projects completed for the people of long pico the long pico community is a very important part of the san lorenzo valley water district and hopefully all this work that's been done is a is a demonstration of of that importance so again thank you for all of your efforts and please pass it along to your committee as well i surely will and thank you all of you and especially lois for helping us out and making sure this um report is together and you know correct and thank you rick and stephanie thank you and everyone else with uh san lorenzo valley water district thank you again okay next um we'll go to lois but i do want to uh acknowledge her contributions here of working with the committee to um bring this along and in a timely fashion so that we get it all out so she's been a big help on that lois did you have any comment you want to make well they worked very hard on this they spent a lot of time on it and they went around and saw all the new tanks they were so excited to do that um and it's it's been my pleasure to work with them the other thing is that they had mentioned to me i i don't know if it'll happen i don't want to put them on the spot but they wanted to get the next annual report done by the end of this year by the end of december and i would imagine that the reports are going to get smaller not as much content as the these first two have and i hope that that happens but if it doesn't happen it's not going to be the end of the world and they will get it done as soon as they can okay mark one comment one question um on the financial side um i see that we utilize the loan amount of 890 000 but we needed only just under 600 000 of that pay that off i don't know whether it's marianne or stethany to address the question on that why did we exercise that much of the loan there's certain projects that are listed to be paid for through the loan so those are getting drawn down on the loan and then we keep getting um we'll be getting each year the reimbursements from the assessment district and so those amounts are going to grow and then go towards each year paying down a portion of that loan so at a certain time they didn't have that much cash on hand um okay so have we fully utilized all of the loan then is this the remaining amount we're it was just that difference where we're showing a balance on the account now it was uh not being financially savvy i didn't understand why we have a balance they financed the portion and so as those projects that are getting financed by the loan it's coming out of the loan and then this cash balance is i mean we get a hundred and some thousand dollars you know per year so that balance is gonna eventually sit there and just write it out to where we'll get money coming in and then each year kind of a similar amount is going to be going out the door going towards that loan payment and so over the course of um you know however i think it's what six years are left it'll then eventually all zero out so part of it's just the timing of okay how these projects came in and then it'll continue to be depending on when because we'd look at this quarterly um when the assessment funds have come in versus when those loan payments are going out okay um and then one minor comment um Marianne the cover page uh date is wrong it should be July 1st 2019 through June 30th 2020 um no because we already did the first year this is the second the first year was like two years and then now this is the next year this past year uh i sorry i i forgot to mention this earlier but um it would if if it would be great to replace the old uh center on the value water district logo with a new one just to make sure our branding is consistent you got that um Marianne i'm gonna go back to mark's comment it is wrong at the front because it's July 1st 2020 through June 30th 2020 yeah i see that now i'm like oh yeah okay i haven't looked at this in a while so that yeah that could be corrected yes definitely before we uh put it up posted yes that sounds great yeah that would mean you traveled that would mean you traveled back in time or you know i'm working on that didn't you know that good let me know i'd like to go yes i want to get younger it sounds like a great idea good i will fix it i appreciated the completeness of this and it was easy to read and understand kudos to you and the rest of the committee thanks thank you thank you all right um i would like uh to make a motion that we accept the 2020 annual report from laidock as a board second okay um are there any comments on this from the audience i don't see any the other um so any comments by members of the board if not go ahead and um holly if you will take a roll cover please yes i heard someone's second but i didn't know who that was bob bob president may hood hi vice president henry yes director ackman yes director false yes director smally yes motion passes um so the next item of new business is the california highway nine bridges project rick yes thank you chair may hood uh i'll ask the district engineer to present this item to the board josh good evening all the project question is the design of relocated water mains for two bridges on highway nine which are currently in the design process with caltrans we received two bids on this project one from sandus civil engineers the other from mme civil and structural engineers rick director smally and myself reviewed these two proposals and determined that it was our recommendation to the board as outlined in my memo that the project would be awarded to mme i do realize that the the bottom line on mme's proposal is slightly higher than the bottom line on sandus's the difference is slightly over six thousand dollars when one accounts for the fact that sandus did not include a 10 contingency and mme did we have verified that that contingency would be controlled by the district not by mme it is the consensus amongst those of us who reviewed this project that an amount as small as six thousand dollars is likely to be eaten up in unanticipated conditions change orders and dealing with caltrans and as such we looked at the quality of each of the proposals and determined that the mme proposal was superior i am happy to take any questions that the board may have mark would you like to comment on this and share the chair of the engineering committee um yes i would um just stated i reviewed this uh both proposals in detail um the uh proposal from mme um outlined in detail their approach and how they were going to um provide value to the district which included um involving a consultant who had previously uh done consulting work for caltrans which we know was going to be key to getting this through the permitting process um with them spending a little bit more up front but having a consultant that uh provided a more detailed approach on how they were going to do the work i thought was much more significant uh to us at this point so i concurred with josh and rick that we should move ahead with mme are there any other comments from members of the board but yeah my um my only comment has to do with just in in general uh how we're managing folks that are bidding on these these projects i i guess what i'm hearing is that perhaps in the future maybe sandus needs some additional insight maybe into how to submit proposals for us um i know they've done work for us in the past i think the work has been really good so i really hope that they're that they stay in the game and remain competitive because of course even six thousand dollars is you know adds up when you have a few of those happening over the course of a year lois i saw your hand go up yes um well i've been aware of bestie miller engineering for many years and i have a whole lot of faith in them also being on the engineering committee i think mark and josh are pointing us in the right direction with with this company and i have a lot of faith in them and in this company any other comments go ahead jamie um so i and i for ask your forgiveness because i'm probably coming to this a little bit later than the rest of you but we're um relocating these mains uh as a result of the um caltrans you know bridge reconstruction project and uh you know hi is this are we funding this project is this something were we going to be replacing these mains anyway and so it's just serendipitous that we're taking advantage of the timing here you know i just wanted to understand a little bit more like the the relationship between the project and caltrans work yes i'll take that one caltrans has scheduled replacement of these bridges for their own reasons and required that we move our lines so we are we are complying with caltrans directive on this one as far as funding goes that's not a question that i'm able to answer and one of the bridges uh out by the mountain store just north of the mountain store kings creek in highway nine it has reached its life expectancy and needs to be replaced um so it's a good project and we're there uh under uh caltrans is encoded for permit which requires the district to move ahead when they do work they're widening and replacing the complete bridges and we're using their bridges for support structures now and so as part of that process uh we'll go in and and do the replacement but the north boulder creek bridge the mountain store has reached its life expectancy i understand the relationship now thanks okay uh are there any comments among the um members of the public hearing none seeing none i'll come back and we have a recommendation from the uh staff that the board direct the district manager to enter into a contract with mme civil and structural engineering for design of a water main relocation plans um for bridges over the san lorenzo river in the amount of 152 568 dollars um dated july 6 2021 i will make that motion i will second okay um holly would you like to take the roll call vote please president excuse me president main hood hi vice president henry yes director ackman yes director paul's yes and director smally yes motion passes um now we come to the last item of new business which is uh a report on the system wide water leak line leak detection project yes thank you uh the director of operations will present uh the system wide water line leak detection report to the board the final report yeah yes so this memo here um it is recommended that the board directors review this memo and accept the district system wide water line leak detection project final report um in the background you'll see there's a lot of statistics from the report and the report was also attached to the agenda um and i am here to answer any questions that needed let's go ahead and um start with uh lois did you have any questions i yes uh the amount of water suggested that we might be losing i'm assuming that that's overstated not understated well in the past the last two leak detection that we've done 2014 2018 they were slightly overstated but it's not off by much so it's in the ballpark um right now we have a couple left that are very small leaks and we've been having a lot of leaks and other stuff going on right now so we have a couple less i don't have the final number of what the gpm is yet but i will have that number and i will bring that back to the board when we are we plan to get into this call 28 million 645 thousand gallon well yeah well you'll see in my final paragraph that those numbers are just we don't know what the durations of these leaks have been so those numbers are there to spell out and forecast that if the leak was going for that long that's how much water it would be but we cannot we don't have a pinpointed date of when these leaks started so we don't have an actual number so this is just to give you an overview of what it would be at these durations the other thing that really impressed me was the total distance in miles that they're looking at a hundred and is 103 ash 4659 and and that too is an estimated number as they're driving they just kind of estimate that we did get through the whole system um so our whole system is about 190 miles of pipe but with their driving and how they go about it that's what they estimated as but that they did 104 miles of pipeline but we did get to the whole system in three weeks detection it's just amazing how long those pipes are thank you Mark yes I have several questions on this but James what's the approximate breakdown of mainline versus service lines of that you said 190 miles yeah so there's 190 miles of mainline in the system and that includes hydro model that does not include service line length so they looked at all of the mainline and then they looked at service lines also yeah so as they go through each neighborhood they take a certain handful of meters out that they go and listen to and what that is is the footage that they go by to where that there's noise on one other meter within the last meter that they get they will have a noise and then if there is a noise they'll go back and find out which meter or service line is leaking at that time okay all right I see then that based on one of their summary charts in here estimated mainline leakage was a total of 29 gpm the valves were about 15 gpm which makes up the bulk of the total number of the 54 gpm that you were projecting in the in the summary chart that you showed us it seems to me like if we were to do this on a more frequent basis we focus on the mainlines that's covering over half of the loss numbers that they're representing here yeah as they go through and listening to meters help determine leaks on mainlines as well because that's where that's where they'll hear the better noise coming from a leak and then that's where they determine then they start zeroing in on where the leaks at most of them ended up being on mainlines and any of the leaks that we found at meters or service valve were very small like weeping or little drips and those were actually fixed as they were going through by tightening the spud or fixing a nut or whatever okay um on page 110 I see that they made a comment about um sound locations observations were compiled for suspected leaks um but it was for uh doing a survey for a reinvestigation possible pinpointing at a later date uh yeah so they did that and then they came back that last week and did their pinpointing so it's been done okay so that uh reference on page 110 is done then okay right um on page 114 they they called out specifically two locations um for undefined leaks um on one on highway nine and another one on urwin way have we done any follow-up on those two yet yes so those ended up being noises coming from pump stations running water while they were out doing leak detection and when we went back we found out that the pumps were running at that time and that's what the noise was okay they were undetermined okay shut the pump down the noise goes away i wasn't leaking okay good good okay um um do do we have an approximate cost per gallon of the incremental uh that it costs us to produce another gallon or million gallons or whatever the because i'm looking at that loss number that lois was citing the uh 28 plus million gallons again that 28 plus million gallons is philosophical because it's not i i i disagree i disagree with you james um we did the last leak detection report in 2018 so some of these lines could have been leaking as long as almost three years some of them could have been could have the leak started last week so as an average they've been leaking for 18 months is the way that i look at you know given the data spacing that we have okay so i'll just give you i'll give you a little bit a couple numbers that i have here um i put i had one of our uh front office staff put some numbers get together for me at the end of the day today and in 2018 there was 158 leaks throughout the year and our water loss that we determined in gpm on that was 8.2 million gallons and that's out of 158 leaks throughout the year then in 2019 we had 241 leaks throughout the year and our estimated total gallons loss was 9.4 million gallons and you got 2020 was 197 total leaks and it was 2.1 or actually about 2.2 million gallons that was determined as gallons lost um um okay i'm i'm trying to see you know what did we lose in not revenue but uh cost that we sung for utilities cost pumping anything else for the the water loss because it seems to me like um if we started doing this or at least the main lines on an annual basis for some period of time to see how many leaks show up for the cost of 20 000 for you know the outside consultant sounds like that it's money well spent to do it more frequently than the industry standard of every three to five years well district staff is prepared to do what is recommended by the board and the district manager okay okay rick do you want to comment on that plan you know we can increase increase leak detection you know i like to i i would think that we should base it on our unaccounted for a water loss we should look going into next year and try to get down it's one of the areas that were we don't have good records on exactly we have some we have records of the amount of leaks we have we have some issues with our production metering we need to look at our unaccounted for water loss we know we have a high unaccounted for water loss we know that we've reduced it i would say considerably this year with the replacement of several of the redwood tanks in in lampeco and other parts of the district so we're bringing that number down and i think we should look at that number moving ahead and then take a look and see what our loss is try to get a better handle on that number and then decide whether we're ready to move ahead on on leak detection or was the bulk of that water leaking from the reservoirs i'm not saying we shouldn't do it i'm just saying ought to do it we ought to make sure you know it's not only the 20 25 000 or 30 000 we do leak detection but it's also about four weeks of a of a of staff time working with them but if the return is there i i agree i'm not sure i can i'm not sure i would i could come to the board right now and say yes do it every year um more information right okay then yes i i think we should see that information and and i think looking at this uh 20 000 cost in here for the outside consultant is not looking at the full cost picture as you've pointed out it requires staff time accompanying this for the three or four weeks that they're doing the work but again what's that netting us then in savings for water that we don't need to to generate between pumping treatment and everything else i agree and that number we need to define better and you know staff is in operations that i have targeted unencounter for water is a high priority we're also working with our engineering consultants on you know better mapping of where our leaks are although you know we don't have that large of a system staff knows where they're constantly repairing leaks but mapping will give us a better presentation to the board and it works better on mainland replacement you know we just we just need to make sure that uh what we do is we're getting you know a payback for our time and our energy but i i agree that there may be a need to step it up um it just we have to uh we have to look at you know the big picture right i'm looking at the uh figures that the consultant provided in terms of what they were estimating these various leaks were representing and even if they are only you know if they estimated overestimated by 20 it still appears to me to be significant enough volumes of water that had been leaking for as long as 18 months that we would have been lost and we're on the direction of since we've started this leak detection of of lowering that number of leaks this number is going down uh so you know maybe next year but maybe instead of every three years try every two years and see what that number does but we need to look at the total unencounter for a water loss and and take a look at the big picture i'm not against doing it yearly if that payback is there right that's what i that's what i think we should see i agree okay all right that's all my questions jamie yeah um i'm i'm just curious um i recall when i was with san jose water that um during periods of drought we often saw um more water loss more leakage more you know pipe stress um i don't know i i think it was because you i guess assume as the you know water table drops in the soil the soil settles putting pressure on the pipes but i'm wondering a um is that a phenomenon that we see here in the in the valley and also you know i mean given the fact that we're clearly you know headed into a drought or in a drought um and and we did this uh surveying over the last i agree i think we see in drier weather more leaks surface than in weather weather it's kind of unique but when you know a couple things really affect our leak our leak repair is any any type of earthquake uh gives us on our smaller mains uh you know a huge increase in in mainline leaks and then the the change of seasons from winter to summer more uh more mainline leak surface it's kind of unique uh i don't know maybe director made it could tell you something about soils on that and geology and why that is but uh it's interesting you think is the soil would dry out the the water would soak in but it seems to be just the opposite i'm a little more excited we do see an increase definitely when it gets drier and then it starts to stress and pull on the pipes a little bit more and then the and then the trees start stressing and the tree roots and that stuff and they start to try to move and reach out and find water and that's where we see a lock that come from during drier weather is the roots start to bust mains and pop service lines and whatever we're in the case of um up here on highland drive the ravens have taken up a resonance on top of the tank up here about a dozen of them they're obviously looking for water um yes i had a uh a couple of comments on this uh james with respect to the water leaks i'm not so much um i mean i'm a little worried about retrospective vision but i'm i'm much more worried about the perspective so 29 milling gallons if we hadn't done a leak detection this year is roughly about four and a half percent of our total production for the year and given that we're asking our community to save you know between 10 and 20 percent uh this is either 25 or 50 percent of what we collectively not just our customers but we collectively need to save relative to the water we're extracting uh from the ground and the and the surface so to me this is unbelievably critical for reasons beyond um uh the numbers which i i love to hear the conversation that you and mark were having because metrics and n roi and all the rest of it is is critical i would very much like to see us do this at least every other year and drought year drought times if not every year because of the fact that we need to have the system as leak proof or less leaky as possible when we're asking our community to sacrifice as well so i i'm really glad we did it uh did it this year so thank you for putting it together and i look forward to having that conversation about when to do this next year shortly staff's prepared uh let's see are there any comments uh by members of the public on this topic uh yes larry go ahead we go sorry as a resident of felton uh i was very interested in this issue when calam owned our water district because apparently there were a lot of leaks that were obviously related to lack of maintenance or lack of concern there were jury rig repairs with duct tape and things like that so what i'm i'm wondering about now you know uh 15 years later how how are we doing and what james what lessons do you learn from this kind of report i mean does it tell you that uh different communities are doing better than others does it tell you i mean i'm looking for things other than what rick said about uh you know earthquakes and dry weather and tree and you mentioned tree roots what what other things i mean are there certain neighborhoods that are uh subject to vandalism or to failures you know like we discovered in in felton and um where where could we you know really improve the um you know repair of leaks where how could we anticipate where leaks would be and get on those faster over so with that we do have neighborhoods that we identify where we're out and fixing leaks in that neighborhood constantly and we've been starting a heat map and with the new water master plan and the model water system model we're starting to do a heat map of that with our leak with our service orders for our leaks our work orders i should say and we're starting to put those into a heat map and we have identified in the past and we just got done doing two neighborhoods that were very high leak neighborhoods that being california drive and uh hillside and rentals out off fern um and then on this new loan that we just put in for we also put in some more pipeline areas like the hermosa area down in ben loman off of glenn arbor and we know we're there once a month or once every other month and so we know that's a neighborhood that's really bad orman road bear creek road it's a really bad neighborhood so we do identify those neighborhoods and we're starting trying to put those on our pipeline replacement um schedule and with on those for our capital projects and we're moving ahead with those so that's how we've identified that we don't really have a lot of vandalism that creates leaks in our system and when somebody does create a leak it's usually a contractor or a homeowner and obviously they're calling right away because they're in a panic as soon as there's water leaking so i mean that's that's very responsive and that we're on top of all that but i mean other than that identified through the leak detection is what we find is they find the subsurface leaks that we don't find that we don't know about thank you any other questions or comments this one is just a report so we don't need to do anything on it so now we move to uh the i think you gotta accept it right well do you have to accept it i'm sorry um accept the district report so we have a recommendation to accept the district system wide water line leak detection project final report well that's a lot of unknowns anybody would like to make that motion i'll make that motion i'll second okay um i'll just go back out to the public one more time now that we have a motion on the table and not seeing any questions or um holly would you take the roll call the it may hood vice president henry yes director ackman yes director false yes director smally yes thank you all all right um next we have the consent agenda and if uh is there anything that anyone would like to take from the consent agenda to discuss none okay um we also have the district reports um normally people can ask questions privately but if there's something that is just burning that you want to talk about uh are there any questions or comments from the board yes jamie i actually just really wanted to take this opportunity to publicly acknowledge all of the efforts i see that the district has been putting into um public messaging around conservation um i really appreciate seeing all of the physical messaging around the valley seeing the consistent messaging on the vehicles so you know well done and i i and also you know acknowledging the additional efforts you're putting into just public outreach and communication in general um i i appreciate it and i i i'm seeing it more visibly so i'm sure other people are as well so well done any other uh points anybody wants to make yes bob well can't let Stephanie get away without um yes can you hear me yes yes uh we can't let Stephanie get away without one more comment about the um uh the past due balances which is a report that uh she's worked very hard on putting together in which i think is one of the more important components of her report and Stephanie it looks like we are more or less staying the same for anything that's more than 30 days over i mean i think we might be losing a little bit but it seems fairly stable is that is that correct uh yes i'd say the last three buckets are pretty stable you'll see those beginning buckets look higher but a lot of that's just simply due to this is the time when people are using more water so their actual monthly bills are a little bit higher this time of year right well i'm looking forward to continuing to see these and hopefully seeing some of these things go down as we you know do some uh uh of the remediation we're talking about so thank you for putting this together any other questions or comments uh then can i have a motion to adjourn do we need a motion no well it just seems nice i don't know somehow it feels weird for me to say we're done and then click off so i'm just instituting this to make it seem more civilized go ahead make a motion i so moved i second lost this motion all right okay some of without objection we are adjourned thank you everybody good night everyone