 and what's the latest with Nordic? Well, the latest I think is that we have more solutions and more devices than we ever had before. This year, since last CES, we've launched new devices and everything to attend. We have multiple software solutions. Now we can offer Bluetooth 5.0, Bluetooth Mesh, Tread, multi-protocol solutions with those protocols. What is this stuff? What is it? LTE, M, NBIOT, are you big in that? Well, we are gonna announce our initiatives in the seller IoT space. We do have development going on for LTE, M and Arabian IoT. On the 22nd of June, we're announcing our products in that space, which we've been working on for the last three years. So we expect that the next big thing for us after Bluetooth will be seller IoT based on CADM and Arabian IoT. And you'll be providing low-cost, low-power solutions? For that low-cost, low-power, developer-friendly solutions for that, yes. And so is this what it looks like when your stuff comes out in these wafers and all the Nordic semiconductors just in a bunch of wafers? I mean, we do thousands of wafers every year. And typically there are anything from a few thousand to 10,000 devices per wafer. Then they get cut up into pieces and put in plastic capsules and bonded out. But it all starts on the wafer side of things. And one of these, how many percent is good? How many is usable? You know, that's typically a trade secret, right? But we should be on the 90s. 90s, so that's how you can get low-cost? That's how you make sure that, first of all, you've got to have a manufacturing capability. You need to have your manufacturing process on the control to ensure that. But of course, yeah, the better yield, the more better price you can do on the devices. And are there tens of thousands of different products using all these, what is this penguin there? All kinds of, maybe it's not a penguin, but all the, like if anybody's doing IoT wearables, they're all thinking Nordic. I think a lot of customers do. Now we track design ways worldwide and we think we're doing like 40 to 50% of all things happening in Bluetooth, low energy. And I mean, it comes from all kinds of devices. There's not a particular segment necessary that we dominate. It is the innovation of our customers that comes up with ideas and crazy products that no one thought about. And some of these turns into big volumes. But I think our focus has been to do developer-friendly solutions, easy to work with, easy to start, get the prototype quickly and make great products. And Beacons, you're the leader in Beacons. A lot of customers are using devices from Beacons. I think they like our support we've had for years. We've always been early supporting IE Beacons at Google versions, physical Vab. We had upgrade ability. So a lot of customers have been with us for a long time on Beacons. And all kinds of partners from many different places making tiny little modules and some Swiss modules over here. As you're seeing our list of a number of our module partners, not all of them, but modules become more important for us from a smart home and industrial point of view and more customers are doing modules. And I think we have during the last years, make sure we build relationship with the most reputable manufacturers of modules. And what else are you showing at the booth? Do you have some new security solutions? I mean, hardware security or? Our latest ship, the 52840 is using the ARM CryptoCellT-310, which is, I think it's a gold standard in terms of security, implementing hardware, a whole range of encryption schemes. So that's included in the 52840, our latest device here. Is that the Cortex-M-0-1? That's the Cortex-M-4F. Yeah, this device has a one megabyte of flash, 256K RAM. You know, it's the best, most powerful radio we ever built. It's the most secure device we ever built. It's our flagship device, which we're moving into production now in February. And it's been in design with customers for the last years. We have a lot of expectations for this device. And when the ARM V8M comes out, you'll be at the forefront of that, probably. I'm just guessing. Well, you know, we're always looking at new technology from ARM and all our partners. And we try to leverage what's new. You know, until we announce things that cannot really say, well, we're going to put in. But again, we look to have leading edge products. You're busy, right? In no way. In no way. Yes. And all your designers, your chip designers, are always busy with the next thing? Of course. I mean, we've announced things now. And we have showed devices that's coming now, which comes later this year. And of course, we're working on devices that's going to come in 2021 and so forth as well. So there's multiple projects working in different time stages for various products. Everybody at CES, everybody at all the, I don't know, big gates. Everybody's talking about IoT. They're talking about wearables. And you're basically in the middle of it. So you must feel proud, no? You're like, it's very good at that. I always like to say that. We used to do IoT for a long time, or we used to do a lot of internet of my things. You know, the things that connected, the things you had around you, the wearables. But you know, some of the IoT is not that new in a way. I mean, it's been around for a long time, but as these businesses now becoming bigger and bigger, I think we are in a very good position of capitalizing on it. How long time have you been doing IoT? I think we've been doing IoT for the last 15 years in some way or another, right? So you've been doing, before people call it, IoT? I think so, because it's about bringing some data from a sensor to somewhere it processes it in the cloud, acting on information, controlling things. It's just the simple things in my view that of course you made more complex. So the owner of ARM, he was on stage last year and he said, I want to ship a trillion ARM processors every year. Are you going to help him? Yeah, of course. Do you have plans to do trillion... Are you going to print them out, like plastic-based chips? What are you going to do? Is it going to be on the floor and the walls? What's next? I think we're going to look more similar to what it is today, to be honest with you. And I know that they have big ambitions around. We are contributing pretty significantly to that volume every year, but it's of course a long way to go for a trillion devices per year. How many are you contributing every year? Is it secret? I think we're not announcing that number, yes. It's probably in hundreds of millions, right? We do a portfolio product, some with ARM, some without, and we typically do around 300 million devices per year, but there's a mix of older things. Most of the ARM stuff you're selling? I wouldn't say that. Maybe not. There's some other stuff, too. There's older stuff that before the ARM era I've noted. All right. So there's a busy booth here. Actually, right here, it seems that all the booths around here, like more than a half of them are using Nordic, right? I think everyone's using Bluetooth as well. Of course, there's a lot of our customers around here. I think Bluetooth is really the big star of this show as well. You know, seeing the marketing themselves, there's a lot of things going on, and Bluetooth has really come a long way of becoming a dominant standard in some way. All around us, of course, people are using Bluetooth and all kinds of things with our devices, or sometimes our competitors' devices. I think Bluetooth, of course, is great, but is it becoming better and easier to use? Are you helping them to... You're part of the Bluetooth consortium, and is one of the priorities to make things to pair more easily, more seamlessly? The question of pairing has always been a tough question in the Bluetooth sync, to be honest. There's always been the question about who's responsible for a solid pairing or not. I think we've come a long way with Bluetooth in terms of functionality and making it better. Something we've done on our devices is actually to support NFC as well for pairing, which is, to some extent, making the pairing experience even better and easier to do. I wish I could say that it will be very easy, but it still is a little bit tricky to get the pairing going. This applies to all wireless standards in some way.