 16, so you're good to go. Welcome everybody to the March 25th, 2024 select board meeting for town of Rochester, which has been warned in three public places and on the website and emailed to interested parties so we can go forward. First, with you have the fire meeting minutes from March 1st. The special select board meeting minutes, which was to increase the, the community development block grant planning grant by 10,000 for the high school repurposing project and we approve that. So, I'd move to approve those to do it because I wasn't there. Oh, you weren't there. Pat, we see you on your phone and you appear to be muted. I wasn't present. I second that. All right. Okay, all in favor. Hi. Okay. And then for the meetings. Minutes for the March 11th, which I wasn't there. So that would be up to me and Pat and Frank to approve those. If they approve of those. I second that I move to, I move to accept the meeting minutes. I second it all in favor. I got those. And one more set of minutes we've got is for the annual town meeting that was on Monday, March 4th at the high school auditorium. And I would move to approve those. I second that. All in favor. All right. All right. Well, and we'll move on to we have Jared. Yes. Tonight. What's up. Um, Well, I live up in Hawke on Middle Hawk Lane and I wrote a, I wrote a little, um, a little letter about, we want to try to get Middle Hawk Lane to be, um, maintained by the town rather than, um, the main reason is just, you know, Hawke has been taking care of it for a long time and been doing a good job, but we're here full time now. Um, and just the maintenance, overall maintenance would, you know, be super beneficial for us to consider, you know, getting into school and, you know, all these things. I also know it's not a, a guess, no process. It's going to be, you know, it's going to help be figured out along the way, but, um, and that along, obviously the financial aspect of it would, you know, inflation happening and all the things that we have already talked to Johnson and the Largos who are also on Middle Hawk Lane. Um, and they, you know, they are also, um, would like to move forward with it. Um, but we just don't know the process and we just knew this was the first step and we want to kind of, um, get a discussion going of what's possible and, um, you know, aside from Upper Sparrow Hawk, it's the only other road that I, that I know of that's on Hawke that is not maintained by the town. Um, there's other, like Pine Lane going up Maple is, has one house on it that's seasonal that's maintained by the town. We just don't know the history of it, but we're just kind of thinking it'd be beneficial for, um, you know, for the, for the people that are on there, not also the Largos, he's 90, they're in and out of New York a lot. Um, but just trying to get the, to get the road maintained in a way that is, uh, consistent with, um, with the towns. So you looked into this, right? Is it? I've looked into some of it. Yes. Um, basically it's a board decision and it would require the landowners to upgrade the road to class three standards. Um, the town really has no interest in taking on any more roads because I'm looking to get rid of some, to be honest with you. Right. Like Kirkpatrick road or Sierra up there on the hill, there's nine-tenths of a mile in Bingo. I want to see us, uh, abandon. There's, uh, uh, Anderson Lane up on Jerusalem Hill. There's, um, where's the other one? I'm sticking up Wing Farm Road. These are roads that we'd like to see us abandon them, but because they're, they're involved with deed restrictions on some of these roads. Uh, Kirkpatrick's is a different, would be a different one because all the land is owned by one person. So that would just be an easy road to discontinue. Right. Um, roads like Wing Farm Road encompass three or four different landowners. So I'm not sure how, I haven't researched their deeds. I'd have to have a lawyer to research the deeds to find out where the, where the deeds or the lot lines are and how we would have to address that if we were to discontinue. In your case, you'd have to put together, uh, 50 foot right away. It's three rod, which is 49 feet. I don't know how that affects your property or the neighbor's property or Hawk North's property. Right. You would have to go through the process of whether or not the driveways approach to the town road was adequate and was properly culvert. If it necessary, I mean, you'd have to go through a whole review of that part of the road and build it out enough to make a decent turnaround. There would be the issue. I'm not sure what the cost is. We haven't looked at that, but that would be born by you folks in order for the town to even do it. I have talked to John and he's not interested in taking on any more roads. So I'm not aware of private drives. It's a private drive. Yeah, yeah. And from what I, I don't know a bit more as well, but most of it is on our, it's Hawk on the left. It's the common land and us on the right, my car house. So, um, but I, I, one thing I don't really know is where metal Hawk officially ends. Is it like just the straight or does it go to the left or the type of thing I just need to find the way I say that, because if just the, you know, all the deeds wouldn't be necessary, because most of the road is just our house. Yeah, because our property line goes all the way back. Goes down. Yeah. Towards the Johnson's. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know how that affects, you know, the legal aspect of changing that. I know it's not a very big road or anything. And I have thought that when those roads were constructed up there, that one was probably constructed after all the others. That was probably one of the latter ones that went in. It was in 81. Yeah. I don't know, which I think is one of the later ones. Yeah, those roads were developed back in the early 70s. Some of them were in the, in the mid 70s. I know they were planned in the six late 60s. That's when the access road went in was the early 70s, which was constructed all on hot property. Right. And so those were, it was some agreement back then at the time that the town would own those roads, but I don't know why that road was left out of that, whether it came in later or what I'd had. You'd have to research that in order to find that out. We were, we were, actually I was, we were talking, I was talking with Norm yesterday and he was, he didn't know if that was like a single plot that would, that would purchase later or like how it worked out. He's just, but no one really. That lot where your house is, is the original camp lot. That was the original, that was the lot where that road ended. And the old road used to, the road that's there now used to continue on and go through all the way past what is that Falcon Loop West. Okay. And that's where the old road used to go all the way out through there to Maple Hill. So, and the other road came up from Marine Hill, which was later discovered to be a town road to a certain point there. But if you look at where the four way intersection is up there for Falcon Loop West and East, I think it is, there's a cellar hole there on the right. And that was the last house that was on there. And there's another one that's out in the woods out beyond Hawk that's off that road too. But that was the original, there used to be a pond that was right across from your house, right on the corner where Osprey Run is, there was a pond right there. And that's pretty much where the travel portion of that road stopped before Hawk was built. Gotcha. So, and I would imagine that camp stayed there for a number of years after Hawk was started. And I imagine those lots that went down in that side were some of the last ones to be developed. I believe. Which actually, you know, that makes sense because the cruises lived there before, but it was, it's technically actually a private road. I forget the actual name of it, but there's actually two up there now that I think about it. And it's the one, if you, I don't know if you remember the cruises were there? Yeah. Their house, that's actually, it's not a driveway, that's actually like a road to go back to their place. And that's actually private too. So there's something with that section. So you're probably right, just being developed. It was last to develop. I wasn't sure if the road coming off the access road to the left was Town Road or not. I don't know what the name of that is. That's the one that goes off to Cruises. But there were two lot, another lot beyond them and they bought it. So that was the access, that road was a right away to get to those lots, those back lots. Yeah. Because I know those other ones were all put in when the original development was built. And the only one they couldn't take and they didn't take on was that upper spare hop because of the other sample, the accessibility to it and how steep it was. But that was probably back in the early 70s, I would think, maybe mid 70s at the latest that they did to all those roads. So the long and the short of it is Town is not anxious to take on another road, but I guess the research should be done about what the deeds say, how much, you know, what is actually there and what it would take to to upgrade it. And so we really had, you know, you'd have numbers to play with. Sure, yeah, yeah. And that's the way we should address it, I think. To be honest, that's what I figured. I don't want to say because I don't know what it would entail. It might just be just trying to figure out more cost-effective way to move forward since we're planning on being here for a long time. X amount down for these three houses makes sense if it's not insanely expensive to do. I guess if it's just more research. Yeah, yeah. Gotta go from there, I guess. I guess that'd be a starting point. John, when he gets a chance and things dry out at some and I could have him stop up there and he could look at it to see what it would entail to give you some rough idea of what you'd be looking at for cost to bring it up to the class three standard, which it would have to be in order for the town to do that. And that would at least give you an idea of what you'd be looking at for an expense. That's, that's, that's, I mean, that's, well, yeah, that's all I'm looking for. Obviously, I just need to relay this to the Largos with the Johnson because they're not in on it. Yeah, the cost may be surprisingly much. I don't know, you know, because you'd have to like you said, the class three roads require a 50 foot ride away. How many culverts? I'm not sure. And that's something that John would have to look at. You said a 50 foot. 50 foot ride away. What exactly does that mean? It's well, it's the right of way of the road. And then it would require so much lane space. Okay, that's how it is. You know, so the right of way is 50 feet with the roads in the middle of that 50 feet. So it's like 10 feet either side would be right away of the travel portion of the road. So the road would be about 30 feet wide. And I don't know what that, what your road is looking at up there. It's probably 20 or 25 maybe at the most. Yeah. So you'd have to widen that to the standard and plus D the access and right away to the town for ownership. Yep. Yeah, I look into that. So that would, I don't know how that would affect your lot lines or if there's any, you know, issues with that as far as does that change your lot size? I don't know what those things are. I guess it's just something, yeah, I just got to look into it. To be honest, I wouldn't care about, you know, five feet of it taken away. Yeah, but whether that, the reality is it's a lot. Right. It may be not worth it in the long run. The other thing is if it's a deed restriction or if it makes your lot smaller in any way, if that's permissible in the development where, you know, I don't know how that affects that, you know, because I know those lots are an acre maybe and some of them are. 1.6. What's that? 1.6. 1.6. That means six, five feet down. Yeah. It keeps away. Yeah. Yeah. So I, but I don't know the legal mumble jumble there and how that all works. So I can, when the, you know, things calm down a little bit, I'll send them up there. We, we'll go up there together and look and see what it would entail and give a rough estimate. And you'd have to bring that up to standard by outside interests and do the town specs and go from there. Let's have a look. Yeah. Wonderful. Thanks, Robert. Hey, Robert. Hey guys, what a beautiful evening and Frank, are you competing with Marvin Harvey's knowledge of history? With God, I've been here. Well, anyway, no, I'm talking about land, but it's odd the agenda tonight does not have the link to get into the meeting. It only has, it has the meeting ID and the password, but I've been in obviously many meetings and I just click on the link and not, it's not there. So it seems to me, I don't know whether someone forgot it or. But if you go onto the Rochester website, you'll notice it says meeting ID and password in the same line, which is confusing in itself. That will get you in. If you go to Zoom, I believe you enter that data and that will take you to the Zoom connection. Yeah. No, I tried in all kinds of Zoom official Zoom site that it doesn't work. So, you know, I'm just saying, typically there's a link and I just click on the link and, you know, the meeting opens and everything is good. So I just thought I'd bring it up because there might be a number of other people that are No, you've got other people in on Zoom. Yep. Yep. And you have ones that might not really figure anything out. Well, Julie, I'll ask you the question. Why isn't the link on the agenda of this evening's meeting? It's always there. It's possible that it got deleted when you copy and paste a link from the Zoom to the agenda that we use. There's nine miles of gibberish that would confuse people if we left it there. So we always make sure that we delete it. And it's very possible that maybe that got picked up this time in human error. Well, it's just something I thought it was proper to bring forth because typically I just put on the link in Bingo Bango. It's on Zoom and there everyone is. But, you know, I don't know what you're saying, but you're in on the phone. So you can, you can find, right? Yeah. You can hear us, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can hear you guys. Okay. Okay. It's all good. It's not, it's not, it's just a thought I would put forth to Julie to say, well, where's the link? I mean, this is Pat. And I just clicked on the link and I went right to Zoom and then you came right up right on. So I had no problem at all tonight. Good. Who's speaking? She just said that. I'm sorry, who? Pat, Harvey. She's on Zoom. And she, she was able to click on the link. So, but I know what happened with that with you. All right. You know, I'm just saying I went to the, there's no link in on the Rochester website, as we speak, in the agenda at the bottom, there's no link. So Patty, I don't know, something went wrong. It's okay. I don't want to interrupt the meeting any longer. We're included in the email, but it's not on the paper agenda is what happened. So Pat was able to access it through her email. There's a link there. But if you go on to the website, it does not have that link. So they're both correct. Right. Well, I don't know. Well, good thing we have a phone number also. So we have other options to get in. Yeah. It's okay. But I don't know how Patty got the link and the agenda doesn't have the link. I don't understand that. No, the link must have been sent via email. So anyway, you guys can carry on watching the email. Okay. Welcome. What's the news from up on the hill? Not really that good for three days. She did have her dog on a leash and now it's off again. And I'd like to know if you guys did send a certified letter. Yeah, I did it. So I sent them certified and I sent them through the regular mail. The certified did come back. The regular mail did not. So she has a copy. Okay. Well, recently her dog has been off the leash again. Again, chasing my car around and around as I leave and when I come back. Yesterday it tried to bite my daughter and another person that lives up there threw a shovel at it to stop it. Okay. You guys tell me you can't do anything. I need to go to the state police. You know what the state police are going to tell me? They're not going to come unless somebody's dead or dying. You know why? Because they've got better things to do right now. This is a town issue. It's right here in your paperwork that you've given me. You have a constable in this town. Is that correct? Mm-hmm. You have two of them, right? One, one, one. You have two ways to talk. We do, but they're not through the training, the proper training to be able to go out on. They can do like traffic control. You have an ordinance or an ordinance officer in this town, correct? That's correct. We do. Yeah. Can you tell me he can't go to the property anymore, correct? Right. No. No. So this is a dereliction of the town duty. Well, it's a dereliction of the town duty. You have a constable. You should be able to contact the council when I come to you. And he should be able to go up there with his ordinance officer and take care of this issue. I could have grabbed that dog tonight and brought it down here because not on a leash. Because it was chasing around like I'm biting it while I'm coming down here. It chased my daughter down the road and tried to bite her. It nipped my oldest daughter that you were here for when she got bit on the face. Something has to happen. I have five violations of that leash not being on a leash. Dog chased a five-year-old down the hill when she was coming home to go to the bathroom from the playground up there trying to bite her. If it wasn't for my wife, it would have bit her. Okay. That dog is a biting dog because it's a herding dog. When it's on the property up there, it thinks it's its property and anything around there that's running, it tries to hurt. A car, a person, doesn't matter. Throw snow with a shovel and it bites my oldest daughter's hand. There is a leash lying in this town. You have it right here in your paperwork. Yep. Somehow it's not my responsibility to have to call the state police to go up there and take care of this. It is a town issue. And last time you told me it was private property. It's right here in your paperwork. Doesn't matter if it's on private property or not. It's a town ordinance. Right. Well, I have communicated with Brian, the owner of the property up there. And he's aware of it. I've communicated with him too when he's aware of it. He's aware of this right here too. We sent him. He's aware of this one right here. This is more violations on the ones that already have three days. She put that dog on a leash. Fine. And now it's off again. Fine's not going to do any good. I think what we got to do is go through the state officer on this type of thing and how maybe we address it. So let's call the state game wardens on this, possibly, and see what our actions we can take. Because I don't really know what to do here. I'm not trying to be right. I want to help you because this is crazy. I'm going to go to my lawyer and I'm going to screw the town because you guys can't do anything. It's the health department. Is that what it is? You have the ordinance officer. You have constables. Right. You have the people to figure this out. But we need to figure it out. Exactly. You're actually right. So finally you told me my daughter last time you couldn't do nothing in this town. I'm here telling you this town needs to goddamn do something now because I'm sick of getting bit in my ass. So yesterday it bit me in the ass. So we'll see what we can come up with on that. We'll reach out to the sheriff too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean they're... Yeah, we tried that. Yeah, he's not made aware of it. He tried that one. That doesn't do nothing. He's told a while. Well, we can bone him up again. I mean, that's not an issue. I think that we have to be... The other reason she sent out some stupid letter saying that somebody was harassing her is because she was thinking it's Brian harassing her. I'm the one that's doing this because that dog keeps nipping at me and biting me and biting my kids. And I am damn sick of it. Right. Well, that shouldn't be happening. There's no question about that. So we'll try to do what we can do and go from there. Thank you. I mean, that's all we can do. The last time I was supposed to have a follow up and nobody called me since the last time I was down here. The only reason I could assume that they got a letter was because they were on a leash for three days. So please, you have my information. Yes. Call me and tell me what we're doing with it. We'll let you know. We will. I'll cede to that myself. Because my five year old gets better. Yeah. Yeah. States laws. It's not going to be good. I've got them. Yeah. So we'll figure out where we can go with it. It draws blood. Because it's... Yeah. It's going to be a problem. It's an issue. Well. If they come out to me, then I'm going to come out to the state, the town, and we'll just be a big horrendous hoorah. Yeah. Because we'll go back to 2011 when my other daughter got a bit. I'm so sick of town people thinking they're going to get away with shit. Really, really sick of it. Well, thanks for bringing it up and pushing it, because that's what it's going to take to bring it to a boil and get something. I'm boiling. Yeah, I can see. Yeah. Please. Eat me in the loo. Okay. Yes. I know you will. Yeah. Okay. We will. I know you're going to want more of this shit. Yeah. Yeah, you were there last time, so you don't care. Well. We're alone with my wife, which ain't here. Larry Schraub was here too, the last time. He didn't even have nothing to say either, so. Okay. Have a good night. Thank you very much. Okay. Yep. All right. That's a project. So the certified letter came back. She didn't accept that. So there's no proof that she got the other mail either. Yeah. So that needs to be like the sheriff should impose the letter. Hand deliver. Yes. Excuse me. Yeah. And get a sign received for it to make sure she's aware. And then law enforcement bond. Uncompliance, I think is important here. And just so like in this situation, you know, Jeff. He just doesn't have the training. Like there's a requirement. There's this big course of that you have to do when he just, he doesn't have that. So I understand that. I think there is an issue. That possibly the game warden could be involved with this with an unleashed dog. Okay. I think it's a health department. Yeah, maybe under the health department, but they might pass it to the game warden or something because. Hand delivery by the sheriff is the way to do it. Yes. So that's something that you have to, we have to do to make sure that certified letter is. I don't know if that's going to make much of a difference to him. Right. Excuse me. Well, that'll cover the base for the town. Yes, Martha. I just, I'm sorry. I don't remember. I know that gentlemen was here maybe a month or two ago, but I don't remember his name. I just want to make sure I have the one I was just speaking to you about the dog biting problem. John Lambert. John Lambert. L A M B E R T. Is that it? Yeah. Thank you. Sorry to bother you there. Hey guys, can I make a comment? No. What do you got Robert? Well, I don't know John Lambert. Maybe I know him to see, but my concern is the future of the children. And their love for dogs. I've had friends when I was in kindergarten, you know, grammar school who were bitten by dogs and they were petrified to be near any dog. It's almost about John's children that the town needs to think about. And John, I have to commend him because he's bringing a good thing forward. You know, I really believe that. Okay, critical. Yeah, it's a very definitely a critical situation. It's just escalating and it's not, the person involved is not proved very easy to deal with. So it's we're just. Well, I'll just share this with you. My two dogs, Lucy and Ethel, when I would arrive at a gathering or a party, they would, the first thing they would do is go check in them all the young children and make sure they were, that's a fact. They would check in on the children. To make sure they were okay. Yeah, not all dogs are that way. Yeah, not all dogs are like that though. These, this is, yeah, this is not a, not a good situation. So we're all going to pursue. I think it'll all get, I think it'll all get worked out. One way or another. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thank you. Um, got that. So the next item on the agenda is we have a, um, outside consumption liquor license for maple soul LC. I guess that's so they can serve on their porch. Yeah, I don't see. Yep. I'd move to approve that. Second. I second. Oh, okay. On favor. Aye. Aye. That's, um, let me just need to approve it. Not sign it. And we also have, uh, tobacco license from village grocery and liquor incorporated. And, um, I would move to approve that. You lucky to have it. I second. All in favor. All right. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Uh, we'll get that. We'll find them right now. Nope. They don't have to be there. Okay. They just need to be officially. Not anymore. I used to be. Then we have a second class liquor license also from the village grocery and liquor incorporated. So now I'd move to approve that. I second. All in favor. All right. Aye. Aye. Yep. And we have a, um, tobacco license from the skip mark. And I'd move to approve that. I second. Okay. All in favor. All right. Aye. Okay. And we also have a second class liquor license application from the skip mark. And so I'd move to approve that. Boy, we've got a pile up in here. Yes. I second that. I second that. Okay. All in favor. Aye. Aye. All right. Okay. Shoot. Here we go. Now for something completely different. We have the February treasurers report. Yeah. And thank you for putting that together again. And I would move to approve that. I can second that. All in favor. All right. Aye. Okay. That one would do something. And do we have anyone on zoom from the library tonight? No. Nope. And, um, we talked some about the highway. They were busy this weekend. Yeah. Add a number of breakdowns. Yeah. Hopefully they'll get them back together. John is going to do his repairs. He sprung the plow frame on the international. The, the 550 went down again. Some, uh, something with the transfer case let go, which was hopefully greens will cover it. Because it was part of the job that we took for. Yeah. So, uh, we'll see what there's going to be a go around with that. I'm sure. And, well, hopefully we get back together and we won't have another two footer to deal with. And for at least another year. Or another month. Well, let's hope not. Um, there's, um, Terry's not on there, I presume from the utilities. So, as, um, as Jeff on there, he's still recuperating. Yeah. How about some grant updates? Got a little bit of grant updates. We received, um, our funds, as you know, from Ben and Jerry's for the AED. I've purchased the AED and we have received that in house. Um, it came with a case and I think we're going to put it out here somewhere. Once I get a man with a drill thing while, you know, yeah, kind of. Or I could ask my lovely husband to do it too. I felt like this really was more accessible. So, we thought like. Is that where you want to keep it? You want to keep it in this building? We thought that it would be more central, more accessible. What do you, like, is there any thoughts? That's, I was concerned about that one. We went ahead with this and where do we keep this thing? We kind of didn't want it in our room because we're kind of full in our room. And it's a kind of, it's a rather big, I think you've seen it box that goes on the wall. So just somewhere out of, you know, out of the way, even like under that coat rack or over there, just somewhere where people aren't going to like walk into it. And yeah, because it sticks out quite a bit. So we'll want to think. I don't know. Can you look at it with me after? I think there's like four screws that are just going to back. I'll look at it Wednesday when I come in. Okay, that's good. Thank you. So we purchased that. That'll probably cost the town, I think, about maybe $280. I added, so it was on sale. And so there's $500 off. And then I added the pediatric pads as well. So we were just over the 1500. So that was pretty good. So thank you, Janice, for doing the work on that. Also for the FEMA, the two category C's that we had sent, that I had sent in. It's at the last phase right now, the final stage of approval. So we should receive our reimbursement for those two within the next two to four weeks, which is awesome. The last one, which was the debris. No, that's the North Hollow site. That one's still under review and trying to do a mitigation thing. And that's, well, that's wound into a lot bigger project than what we anticipated. Being as supportive as I thought. Well, that's the normal because it's an upgrade in the COVID system. Well, yeah, but they had agreed to it. I didn't get it and things have changed. So now they've sort of connected me with someone else. And hopefully we can maybe get an additional grant to cover some of that. So we're kind of in the thick of it with that one. And then also, you might have to crack me on this one. We received the agreement and advance notice to proceed for the BRIC 22 grant. Which is support with the LEMP that we need, LHMP, you're right, that we need to update. So that's in the process too of just getting the final signed documents there. And then my last thing that I would just like to say is it was brought to my attention that some people were questioning. I guess I'll just say had some questions with regards to grants and where the money goes, whether it go in the general fund or where we put this money. And they're calling their friends and asking. And I would just like to openly invite people. If you have questions about a grant suggestions or don't understand something, please feel free to call the town office at any time. I'm happy to talk about it and answer any questions that people may have. That's it. Hey, may I make a comment? This is Robert Franks. Go for it, Robert. Okay, that's cool. Has anyone in the meeting or I don't know what you guys do, but have they read the Vermont Dacre announcing what's coming out of Washington, D.C.? It's a great article and it defines, you know, monies. So Kristen just said there's somebody, you know, some neighbor calling friends. No, but the person she's referring to is who is speaking. And that's Robert Franks. I just, it was told to me that we, this high school or whatever it's called down there is getting a $2.3 million grant. Well, I, all I did was follow the money to see how it was going to be processed. So Kristen, if you have a question regarding my concern about it and the purpose of it, how it's flowing, where it came from, you can just call me. Oh, I don't need to call you because you made it very obvious that day on the phone that you had received numerous phone calls that people were asking you where the money was going. Well, they made the article. So I just contact, no, Kristen, I contacted you to say, where will, where will that money be placed in the town of Rochester? It was just a question. It wasn't a person of attack. It was like, Bernie Sanders approved, Bernie Sanders approved to add $1 million for the school repurposing. And all I said, what account is that going in? You said, oh, it'll go into the general fund. Oh, no, that's not what I said, Robert. Don't say I said that. That is not what I said. I told you that we had documentation that we were uncertain. A lot of, this is a CDBG grant. In the past when I've worked with CDBG grants, we've had to put the money in a special account. I told you I hadn't received any paperwork or anything on this yet. So I wasn't sure what this looked like. Or any much of this pull up potential. Well, no, it's all good. I'm just saying that the news was out before I called Kristen in the Vermont Digger. It was very, very factual with the numbers from the senators or U.S. senators. It was very factual. So people were just, they're like, you know, and I'm not, I receive phone calls. And it's like, hey, listen, I don't know anything about the repurposing and what the purpose of the repurposing is. I just said, you know, if you follow the money, redirect those phone calls to the phone. I would just recommend that you redirect those phone calls to the town clerk's office where they'd have the most current information about that. No, I do that all the time. The problem is people are, they don't want to expose themselves to being concerned about $2.3 million, which I think is great. I think it's a great thing that happened. It's just if someone on the select board deposited $2.3 million into my personal account, I'd say, number one, thank you. And then to say, well, Robert, what are you going to do with it? It's a logical question. So Kristen, Kristen, it wasn't, I knew I was upset. But on the other hand, the information had already come forth. And I would say, wow. So I guess stay tuned because all this is dependent upon whether or not the town decides to purchase this building. This is just more information that would help to inform the public on the vote about whether or not the town should move forward with this project. So this is not a... Right, no, I understand that. I understand that. So that money's not... All right, well, we, I'm sorry. We can end the conversation, but I'm just saying, wow. $2.3 million coming into the Rochester. I've been fighting for the Rochester School, the Stockbridge School, the Bethel School for eight years. And all of a sudden, so it's not something that just came out of the blue. It's $2.3 million. That's a lot of money. Yeah, but it's not necessarily for the school. This is for a whole separate project. So we'll, to be continued, I suppose. Well, the contingency of the continuance is like what... That's the question. What will happen with the money? So it's a future question, I suppose, at this point. Yes, yes, exactly. Okay, let's leave it at that then. Yep. All right. No, but it is exciting, isn't it? Well, yeah, the most important thing is to do something for education and economic development in all of our towns. If you don't have, number one, if you don't have a good school system, no young families and children are going to come here. If you don't have that, you're not going to have economic development, and so the town will die. Yep. So it'll be interesting to see how this all unfolds. Well, let's see what happens. Exactly, exactly. All right, all right. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Does anyone else in Zoom or on the phone have anything they'd like to address tonight? Everybody is muted and seems to be all set. I'm moved to adjourn. Pat has something. All right, I'll second that motion. Wait a second. Quick question. Yes. Under, before you get to adjournment, under old business, it says LHMP and I'm not, can't remember what that is. Yeah, Kristen touched on that and part of the... Stay there because we have a process. Yeah, that's the local hazard. Third mitigation policy. Okay. We do need to, yeah, that will come up. This probably is something that should be announced too, right here. I think this is part of it. Yeah. Yeah, this is... All the finance, do you want to talk about that? I don't know much about it. It's just a, it's just assistance package for anyone with a buried fuel tank. Underground storage or above ground storage outdoors that they're looking to lessen any environmental impacts of leakage and all that. And there is a program available for anyone that has a buried fuel tank that services your home with heating oil and so forth. There is assistance in removal. From the agency of natural resources. So they're trying to clean those underground tanks up? Yeah. So it's just a... Yeah. Is that, is that part, that's part of this LHMP, local hazard mitigation? No, it's not, it is addressing hazards. Yeah. So this grant that Frank was just talking about came from the agency of natural resources? Yes, not so much a grant for say, is it's a program that will offer assistance to individuals. It's not a grant to the town. Okay, so it's a program of providing assistance to remove underground oil tanks? Yeah. Yes. Okay, thank you. Sorry to interrupt. Thank you. Hey, may I make another comment? About the storage tanks? Well, I don't know who came up with the idea about burying storage tanks. That was a disaster 50 years ago. But no, I just want to clarify in the article that I'm proposing for people to read from the Vermont digger is that the $2.3 million is under the USDA. I'm like, what is that? So it goes to the remediation of oil tanks and then it also goes to No, that's a separate, the oil tanks. That's a whole separate program. No, do I understand that? But it's confusing because why is the USDA in the article that the Vermont digger put forth mentioned the USDA was attached to the $2.3 million. I'm like, what does the USDA? How does that work? They're pretty popular. Same question after? Yeah, I didn't know. That's just the mechanisms that the senators have to access money. I guess that's one of their pots of money. They can put dibs on and that was the one that worked, I guess. Yeah, no, that was a good answer. But I seriously, and this is the last thing I'll say, is that everyone should read that article. I think it was Monday a week ago in the Vermont digger. Very precise. Actually, it was on page two of the Herald last week as well, the very same article. Oh, well, I'm sorry, I was sent the article from the Vermont digger. So Frank has got something here. Did anyone have to talk about it? This is the statement of work for the two rivers from two rivers about the capital budget. Program services that they want to be involved in. They've sent us a preliminary here. They're coming next week. And they're going to come next meeting. Next meeting. So Pat, you, me, and Dune, you should that sometime read through this statement of work. So we have an idea of what they're going to propose for our capital budget plan, which we need to get on in order to accept any grant monies and all that. So it's something that's important that we need to do. So that'll be for the next meeting, March 8th. So I just want to, April 8th, sorry. Jump ahead here. It's one of the April. Yeah, I think the eighth, they've listed it here as in their letter. So we'll need just to go through it. So you have to get in and read it. I haven't read it yet myself, but it needs to be done. Okay. All right. I think Pat said, Pat had made a motion to adjourn, but I would second that motion. All in favor? All right. All right.