 Kitterick was the mascot of Channel 13, KTRK, and they just put the letter I between each letter, KTRK, and it made the word Kitterick. She was the first voice and the first thing that appeared on Channel 13. They created the Kitterick mascot that hired this local young woman to be Kitterick, and she started hosting daily children's show. You got to come on stage when it was your birthday. There's no telling how many thousands of Houstonians were on that show. I mean thousands. When you're in Houston and you mentioned the name Kitterick, everyone in the room will turn and look and say, did you say Kitterick? It was such a phenomenon and such a Houstonian thing. I was on the show and my mother had her 8 millimeter camera, and here it is. There's Kitterick. See her in her little cat leotard? That's my back right there. That's the back of my head. The little white outfit. There's Kitterick. Since it's our birthday, we get to sit on the merry-go-round and talk to you. Look at this kid dressed up in his Sunday clothes. It looks like I had a flower for her or something. Yeah. There she is talking to me. I was three. This was my third birthday. Wow. Okay. I think you can see why people like her so much. When I show people this film, the first thing they usually say is, oh it's in color. Because people didn't have color TVs back in. This was 1968, but here she is making some kind of joke. Of course, I have no idea what she's saying. Right. She asked me, she's asking me how old, okay look at this. She's asking me how old I am. Can you see me holding up, holding up three fingers? Let's look at that again. Yeah, you can see me doing, you can see me doing this, and I'm meaning three. And I still do it this way, by the way. When people say, and that's for most people, this isn't, this symbol doesn't mean three. It means okay or whatever. But she, according to my mother, according to my mother, see and look at that charming smile of hers. Okay, according to my mother, she had asked me what was my favorite thing to eat, and I said Cheerios. And then she asked me how old I was, and I said three. And then she said yes, that's what Cheerios are shaped like. So she didn't even get the three symbol. She stopped here. Right, right. And see, and see, she said yes, that's what Cheerios, she's saying that's what Cheerios are shaped like. And then there's me making a circle with my fingers. No, no, that's Cheerios. Yeah. But here's the thing. There's me again. Here's the thing. For me, this was a, and there's my sister talking to Kitterick afterwards. See, my mother had made us these matching outfits, and there's there she is hugging Kitterick. And look out, look how frightened she was. Did you see? Did you see her face? Oh my God. She ran out of here. Yeah, she was she desperately wanted to talk to Kitterick, but she was also terrified. See, my mother made us these little matching outfits. For me, that's always a good idea. This was a this was a formative experience for me. For me, I remember that I remember the studio space. I vividly remember the studio space. Let's see if we can get a wider shot of it. I don't remember the set. I don't remember the walls back there. I don't remember the set. I do remember this huge expanse of bare concrete floor. You can you can get a hint of it here. There was just a big expanse. Now look down. Look down in the lower left on the on the merry-go-round there. Do you see down on the lower left the blue platform of the merry-go-round? Do you see what I see? Yeah. There's there's a person's hand on the merry-go-round. Yeah, we're spinning it. Yeah. Yeah. I remember there was a technician on his knees on the floor with a big set of cans, big big set of you know, can shaped headphones with a microphone on it, like old school television stuff. And he was moving the merry-go-round when it was time for the next kid to come up. This absolutely destroyed me. The fact that the merry-go-round was not real. The whole time that I was there, all I could focus on was that the merry-go-round was not real. It wasn't motorized. No, this was this absolutely destroyed me. And you know, I see you're looking over there. That's where you're looking. Yeah. You're right. Yeah, you're right. See, that's what I'm looking over there. Yeah. I'm looking at the hell. Right. I questioned everything. Yeah. So I couldn't even, Chris is saying, my life is a lie. That's actually true. For a three-year-old, that was what happened. You know, I've talked about my friend Larry, who's been here in the chat a number of times. Larry and I were talking and he said that he had been on the KidRick show too. And I was like, oh really? And he said he was seven. So he's quite a bit older than I had been. And he said that what they did was they taped the show in the morning and then showed it later in the afternoon. I did not remember that detail. I thought it was, I thought it was live all those years. But he said yeah, his experience was they, he had the opportunity to see the show after being on it in the morning. And he said that, but he refused to watch it. Because he said he, I refuse to watch it because of what happened. And I was like, what do you mean what happened? And as he was telling me about his experience on the show, I started to realize, I know what he's gonna say. I know what he's gonna say. The merry-go-round wasn't real. And sure enough, sure enough, he refused to watch his own appearance on KidRick later that day because the merry-go-round wasn't real. So not only, not only did I have the common experience of so many Houstonians of being on the KidRick show, the disillusionment of the, the not real merry-go-round is apparently a common experience of Houstonians. Wow. Oh, okay, look, okay, look, my, my sister is all wound up. Look how excited she is. We're leaving the station, by the way. Anyone who grew up in Houston, by the way, would recognize that, that decorative, that decorative concrete wall outside, from outside the Channel 13 studios, which is right in the middle of the village in Houston. Everyone drives by it all the time. It had this iconic look to it. So anyone who grew up in Houston would take a look at this and say, is this, is this the Channel 13 building? Yep. That's it. But, but look at this. She's all excited. But look at me. Wow, you're not really very happy. Yeah. Well, you're, you're, you're still like trying to put two and two together. Yeah. It's like, what else have I put my trust in that it's shattered now? I mean, people, I don't know what it is I'm holding there. We were given toys or door prizes or something. Anybody can claim to have been disillusioned at age three. Yeah. But how many people have the moment on film? Right. This is on film. Yeah. And there it is right there. Yeah. Yeah. Chris, the thousand yard stair. Yeah. I think that's it for today's today's episode of bad Saturday morning agonizing Saturday morning, I guess. Opening old wounds Saturday morning. Yeah.