 Filing your tax return is different requests I'll send you an invite accepted Drone tech, I'm gonna invite you to speak Hello, how are you sir, and I'm much just chilling. I believe I'm gonna be What's the word Yeah I'm not how hosting um, yeah, not not hosting Okay Hmm is everybody comfortable with like turning my cameras on Once once I'm done my illegal activities legal here, but we illegal in most parts of the US and I will turn on Okay, it's good to sit down with you again incarnation Hey, what's up? I think your model be surprised that he doesn't have much to do tonight. That's cool Yeah, I know we're not assholes I'll try but I don't think it'll work out to you It's for a couple like word punches here and there just make my job a little bit interesting Incarnation you got that Just call them a bespecaled cephalopod or something come on give it a very grace if you're sorry supine protoplasmic and vertebrate one All right, everybody in Yo, yo All right. Well, uh, would I'll tell you like to go ahead and introduce himself Hi, my name is RW. I'm a friend of drone techs. I help out on a server with SEO and group cohesion and Cephas asked me a couple weeks ago if we could do a server versus server and through this topic at me so I spent the last couple weeks pulling up sources and Found out today that I'll be going after my buddy incarnations. So I'm looking forward to it All right, perfect And incarnation would you like to introduce yourself? Yeah, sure thing. I'm in curry. I'm incarnation leader of the nexus We're gonna be having a good little conversation here with our with our good friends here at RW server along with drone tech So it's gonna be gonna be a good time I typically fly off the cuff a little bit here with my debates, especially on a subject like bitch I'm pretty familiar with so I really haven't done much formal research, but I think I can slug with you there RW All right. Yeah, I'll I'll be a little slow, but I will be dropping any sources in the chat for people So it's not just off the cuff. Oh Great and during take what you'd like to introduce yourself and what you do. All right, perfect So I would like to say would anybody like to begin Anybody want to make a statement? All right, perfect. Yeah, go give him crap. He likes it So the proposal is that climate change is a valid reason for government intervention in the economy I am against the proposal. I do not think that it's a valid reason if it was based on pollution in an environment more than Carbon dioxide I could get behind it because I understand that situation, but I I believe that the Information can be pulled to show that the vehicle that's being driven towards climate change laws by politicians is Is not a valid reason for it and I'm not willing to put fuel in that vehicle. So that's that's my basic Proposal for this or responsive proposal and I'll be going into if we bring it up What we are doing with legislation currently for controlling climate change Based on electric vehicles and green energy Yeah Yeah, so I mean, I'm less I'm less gonna converse about whether or not the current policy or the current direction of policy Is you know adequate enough to cur to to you know have an impact on climate But whether or not the conversation is is or at least to me was whether or not governments should get involved in the economy To slow down what they call climate change You know more if we're if we're speaking more specifically to that then you know, I think there is a Breck of reasons why our government should be active in curtailing excessive pollution Within their countries for both the short term and the long term I do believe that countries in and of themselves have a responsibility to their constituents both current and future constituents to offer them, you know basic needs and And having an alliance that are survivable on is a core tenant to human survivability and thus a core tenant to government responsibility and therefore, yes, they should definitely be involved in the In the oversight of the amount of pollution that private private enterprise as a private private corporations or even private citizens Can enact and also be engaged in the conversation of those impacts that private citizens are having on their environment And also be active in the resolution in terms of finding a worthwhile solution that will both, you know, promote prosperity growth and safety for citizens present and in the future So You're you're also saying that it's a pollution control situation more than a climate change situation. Can you Tie those two together more to make it fit this debate because I feel like they're They're separate subjects Well, I would say that when we're speaking about our impact on the planet Given that the planet is the planet is a dynamic system and every variable can have an impact on it I don't really think that you can exclude one from the conversation or the other So pollution co2 levels all of itself falls under the umbrella of pollution and also climate and is also contributing to climate change I don't I don't think you can really separate the two Well, um, I'm curious how to go forward with the debate subject based on that because I'm I'm struggling with the policies that are being enacted to Solve the problems that are being presented to civilians in the country Because they don't seem to actually be solving the problem. They just seem to be Something that was done that seems to not be helping whatsoever Um, let's talk let's talk about that. Let's let's let's dig into that a little bit Okay, so let me pull up an article. I'll first make my statement and then while you're talking I'll bring up the article um, so co2 is considered to be detrimental to the climate change situation because it's a greenhouse gas that traps heat um The problem with people saying that co2 is detrimental otherwise is strange to me because it's even admitted in the Articles for climate change that co2 fertilization is a thing and it actually helps plants to increase production and become more vivid so By removing carbon dioxide from the equation It could also be detrimental towards plant life at a certain point to go too far in the other direction So I don't think it's just a matter of completely wiping it out and doing our best to stop it completely I think it needs to be understood that there is a healthy amount of co2 that needs to be allowed to work in the system itself Yeah, I think if the conversation is being had that you have to remove all co2 I think you're having the conversation somebody who's not necessarily well educated on the subject um, you know, we we obviously as humans know that There is a balance to the system and there is a certain requirement for Certain elements whether or not they're they're toxic to humans is irrelevant when we're talking about the planet So yes, we obviously understand that there is a level of co2 that needs to be present I think if you also look through you know You know through archaeology a little bit and through and through just the research of of of the history of our soil You'll notice that when there were high levels of co2 there were also an accompanying an accompanying high levels of vegetation Right to absorb that co2 In the current trend that we're going while I agree with you, you know, we need some co2 We are currently at this present time burning an excessive amount of co or creating an excessive amount of co2 while also at the same time um hampering the planet's ability to To absorb that co2 through the through the system dynamically as it was kind of met to do Without the impact of humans, right without the impact of humans without the impact of humans Dumping more co2 in the planet than the planet has ever seen in such a short period of time So the the planet in and of itself takes a long time to adapt to these changes And humans are accelerating those changes a little bit faster that could and I'm saying could Have some impact on human life per se Not necessarily the planet but on human life and this is the conversations that are being had about climate change While yes, people like to absorb it around. Oh, we need to save the planet Really what it's about is a selfish conversation about the preservation of human life. That's what we care about But ultimately I think any Any scientist worth their salt would tell you that short of a catastrophic event caused by humans Humans are likely to die off well before the planet will I So I agree with you when it comes to How we're treating the planet and cutting forests down and stuff like that because we're taking the way to see a two sinks At the same time that we're rolling out more Combustion and gas that we're pumping into the environment based on industry residential and commercial um It would be nice to see Yeah, just to add to that it's not just plants right is we're polluting our oceans at rates, you know Rates at incredible rates and that's and that's affecting the algae production the ocean They're actually what absorbs most of the co2. They're actually what what creates most of the oxygen on the planet It's not actually plans So so while yeah, sure you can take hot chopping trees down to have an impact I think we're actually planting more trees and we're chopping down. I'm not quite sure How we're impacting the system in that such a way but the pollution or the the damages that we're causing to our ocean Are really what's going to speed up this process Yeah, I I agree with you when it comes to the algae in the ocean and how that works in the co2 cycle for sure um, I mean, we're in agreement then that it's pollution and is Destruction of the environment through pollution And and removal of nature is is definitely something that has to be curtailed It would be nice to see legislation moving in the direction of stopping corporations from Stripping the earth and instead of just uh attacks that they have to pay it's actually, you know Intervening in that situation and stopping them from being able to do that in the first place I'm not sure how much of that is happening in the world But it seems like we're we're kind of over here in left field saying, you know, get rid of your gas burners No more Combustible engines engines by this year this and that but on the other here all corporations are raping the earth and polluting it And that needs to be addressed 100% more than what's happening on the left I'm not saying we don't want to move in the direction of a green energy But the problem with a lot of the green energies that's happening is the byproducts and the waste product of The green energies are not known now on how to remove them from being a pollutant in our environment and we're also burning more coal and and fossil fuels to support the electric network For the electric vehicles and all the new lithium battery systems So I just it seems like we're in agreement on the situation. So I'm not sure how much of a debate there is here um, well So so see me. I I don't think that you know, obviously, I think there needs to be a A Long-term implementation And I don't think waiting until you have the infrastructure is the time to switch your population over to a particular mindset I think you need to drag that particular mindset through a few generations While you build up your infrastructure so that once you have both Kind of symbiotically meet at the same time where you can then sort of sort of start moving on as a society I do think that these things need to be slightly engineered Um, so I do think that part of what you're seeing with this post electrification is kind of just trying to Force this conversation so that it can happen through one or two generations when we're finally at the point where we have The energy and it is clean to sustain the the surge in demand from on our grids Um, switching people to electric everything will be less of a challenge Do you think that we're moving too quickly at the current speed? I No, I think well, okay, it's a two full two two cited question. I think we're moving too slow um personally speaking but part of the part of the reason why we're moving too slow is because there's Um, you know, capitalism that's kind of holding this progress back a little bit Um, because unfortunately, I think it's going to be just such a major shift in in economies. Um that that Um, you know, and especially, you know, the energy sector and the energy sector is quite possibly the most lucrative sector to be in I just think that there's some reluctance Reluctance to to push a change from the people who are holding a high level of wealth Yeah, I mean There's a wu-tang song called cream Yeah Yeah, um I mean, it's not worth really debating the aspect of money because we can't do anything about that We can argue philosophy. I feel like so here's well. So here's where I think governments need to get involved Okay, and and I think governments are already getting involved. They don't need to necessarily get involved in, you know, pushing overarching regulations on companies and forcing them to abide by a particular way But what they can do right is they can divert a third of them out if they can say We'll throw a just a 1% tax right and that 1% tax goes straight into developments of renewable energies Right and it's a government funded program. Yes, it's a government run program fine But it assures that there is adequate amount of funding that is not tied to profit That goes towards the research and development of alternative energy or even, you know Non-for-profit energy like we're seeing currently happening with nuclear fusion Um, you know once once we we we can figure out that recipe. I think These conversations about government involvement and protection of the environment will will start gifting away And it'll just be guys. We have so much electricity that what are we even doing burning oil? Yeah, I mean, I don't know how far into the future we are for that because I mean, for example, if california's united states is big, um test subject because legislation is being pumped out there before the rest of the nation that is forcing businesses to Go green, you know use batteries for example gardeners can't use combustible engines. They have to have their battery packs And that battery pack system, you know, they have to have the money to support that and pay for that and then that system Isn't as efficient As that technology increases and there's a change Go ahead Yeah, I disagree with with with so there's certain tools where Uh electrification isn't as efficient, but I would say that for the most part Um electrification of tools are way more efficient than gas power tools When it comes to I can only really talk towards gardening because I've done landscaping and the battery life of those systems Doesn't last long enough for a day's work It'll last it'll last long enough for a medium to small sized job But you have to have a very large amount of power packs running And the ability to charge them on site to continue for a eight-hour shift I think that technology is definitely not there yet for it to be or Or alternatively you purchased the right equipment for the right job So in my world in my field right in construction We have electrified absolutely everything and everything is cordless The main investment that we do is in batteries. That tool is not the problem. The battery is well We have batteries that will last through five days on the field of guys just sitting there and slapping drywall on a wall We've invested running on that. That's insane Uh while typically it's from it's from, you know, the the the contractor lines of you know, your particular popular brand So I typically I've shifted a lot of my tools to milwaukee because milwaukee offers a very very comprehensive line of professional grade tools and within those lineup of professional grade tools you'll have their different sizes of batteries And you know with those different sizes of batteries You'll have one that have different outputs of higher amperage Which means if you're you need something that requires a lot of torque or a lot of a lot of power You'll go with the high amperage or if you need something that uses low power but needs to last very long Well, then you can get a 1.5 hour Battery that will last you your entire day or two days before you have to put it on the charger So it really depends, you know, what you're doing But but if you're using the right tool for the right job electrification is leaps and bounds better than anything gas I mean To run a drill all day long for five days on a battery It's pretty impressive to run a circular saw all day for five days on a battery. It doesn't seem possible Um, I run you want to you want to know what I used at the other day the tool that I use and I was super skeptical Super skeptical, but milwaukee came out. Okay, and they gave me an electric stamper So, you know those big stampers that they use to stamp the ground like your landscaper and typically it's gas power So you crank and pull and then you use this okay, so this was all all electric and it had this massive battery pack on it The milwaukee guy drops it off. He said hey, it's your test unit. You know, here's your full charge on the battery Use it till it dies I'll come back at the end of the day And I because I boldface told them is that there's no way in hell I will ever trust this thing like the gas power. It just works to put it on it just works He's just like you look that mean you laugh He's like there's five components to this machine one of them is the battery So there's less things to break all you have to worry about is the battery. I'm telling you the battery lasts all day So use the machine all day the battery lasted all day So the technology is when I said the technology is not moving fast enough I truly meant it it is not moving fast enough. It is moving an incredible pace right now But it could be even faster And and and Yeah, it sounds awesome that the technology on that end of the fence is is working that efficiently for that long That's that's great. Um, yeah, I look forward to seeing that across the board. Um Ron, it's a net positive because we're we're kicking ourselves slowly, but surely in the right direction I Do want it to be a benefit to move towards Taking care of the earth Yes, I I I do see that as a net positive The the path getting there I think needs to be Uh, transparently talked about So that we can see what's being talked about and the bills that are being put forward and We the people can get behind that and and not just be told Rip out all this stuff. You're no longer allowed to have it and we're moving in this direction now So you have to buy that it might be super expensive right now, but one day you're going to benefit from it It's that kind of stuff that makes me go against the The movement instead of backing it I agree. I mean, I agree with that Um, and I think that's where our government intervention can can come in right at the right places, right? I think I think there there should be I think if you If you tilt capitalism in the right direction, I think capitalism will take care of itself Right, and I think in the context of electrification and the viability behind it I think if governments can tilt capitalism in the right direction I do think capitalism will take care of the rest more efficiently and probably come up with better ways of doing it Um, you know, but it's it's how do we how do we get there to to to tilt capitalism in that sense? And and and let the system do what it's got to do How how do we get to that point and at what cost do we do we or what rights do we give or what rights? Do we give our governments basically to get get us there? Yeah, I mean at this point. I don't have much Left to the debate. I I digress and yield. I mean I understand your points and I understand a healthy intervention of government towards moving the planet towards Uh self-sufficient and long-lasting Um, and then it's just a matter of the debate of how do we get there? But I'm definitely Not enough of a headspace right now to go in that direction. So I'm happy to How out and you'll do the next person that wants to talk You're not you're not yielding. I mean, let's make one thing clear. We're not yielding We're just conversing first of all, so just to come just to conversation just to just to yeah Yeah, we're just we're just talking But otherwise, I mean as our is there anything else, I mean on this you you want to talk about I mean He said you had something planned. So I mean we can we can well then to a little bit more I mean or we can shift something else. I mean can we talk about something else? I'd shift I'd shift and just back down because I'm I got to lay down or something. So I appreciate incarnation And Yeah, he's uh rw's not feeling well. He's really uh And I get it because I've been I've been sick the last couple weeks. So Yeah, I'm willing to uh, I guess I'm willing to debate you guys on anything you want to Sure, man. Whatever whatever What do you guys think about? What do you guys think about dei? Uh, I think we've had this call. I think I don't know if it was with you But I've had this conversation before Me and uh, well, maybe it was have you been on my stream? Uh, I don't know if I've been on your stream, but I remember one time I was in uh, I was in our w server and we uh Or is it yours? I don't know But I think I I think you agree with me. I think you agree with me on de uh And and uh, it's it's I don't know Do you support it with your point? I don't I don't support this current implications of it, but I do understand where it comes from Well, okay, I mean that when you say I don't I understand where it comes from that doesn't really Validate it in any way Oh, like I'm like I'm Yeah, like I'm saying there should be some incentive to a nazi sees where Their motivations come from right like they're when they when they think about like what they want to do They see where that where the motivation cup problem, right? So like de okay de I think it's just more straight up fucking racism. That's all it is It's like literal in your face systemic racism. So if you think There's some like oh, I see where someone's coming. That's bullshit. It's just wrong No, not really because I can understand I can understand where the the root of the talking points I yeah, I can understand where the root of the talking points come from if you're talking about them on a on a grand scale Or a societal scale. Yeah, I can understand where the talking points come from it doesn't necessarily mean I agree with de I as a whole I don't know what that means, but For me, it's very easy. So it means is I understand I'm against racial discrimination And systemic government racial discrimination. So I am against de I it's very simple Yeah, great and and I live in I live in the country where there's actual segregation based off What country you can call de I so so in Canada, but my point is Canada you guys are so fucked. You guys are basically in the authoritarian state right now Not even close, but Anyway, so so that's what I said. I understand. Yeah, I am sure We can if you want to but I don't think you want to talk. Let's do it here But all I wanted to say though is I understand as a white guy in China, right? This is me. This is me personally, right? This is me personally I understand as a white guy in China that I'm a white guy in China but with Yeah, if I'm like if I'm a white guy in China, I understand that I'm a white guy in China Even if I'm born, I get you So I understand that there are there are certain Things or within the the context of living in China that I will just simply not be privy to you given that I'm a fucking white guy Right in a world of Chinese people So I think you know the problem right is this idea that you know America's a land for everybody Yeah, the majority of the people are white Right, so so yes as an immigrant or a person of color, you're going to feel somewhat left out I can understand that sentiment right because I can understand where it comes from Right, I can understand how a minority in a predominantly white country would feel left out and come up with excuses and Reasons why you know, the system is against them is what I'm trying to say It's like I understand where their talking points come from I got you. No, you're right. Then I I also see that I don't think it's necessarily true and I think Most of us strive to for that not to be the case because most of us No matter, you know, we want people Whatever, you know race or whatever to be able to like Access the same things that we all do. I do. That's how I feel but I I think that a lot of people feel that way and that Unfortunately, they're that a lot of you know minorities in America and around the world really are misled to believe that there is like This conspiracy against them. I think it's interesting. It's a lot of these conspiracies They mirror the anti-semitic trope conspiracies, but they're just like repurpose for white people Yeah, I would say I would say that in the play a place like the United States I think that gets severely overblown. I do think if you're a black guy in Europe, you're you're going to get passed up By a worse white guy. Let's be honest here like Eastern Europe, especially like you're black You're black dude, buddy. You're not yeah, like so so so so you get less of that in the United States But if you have like and I would apply this to all culture Take what raise away from it. I would apply it to all culture You have a culture of punk rockers and some prep dude comes in Right and you've got the choice between the prep dude who's highly qualified and two other punk rockers Who like is it is it is it is it beyond the is it beyond reasonable doubt to say that they would likely hire One of the two punk rock dudes instead of the preppy dude, even though the preppy dude was more qualified Yeah, I mean but Yeah, I don't know. I mean like You're talking about you get what I mean Well, I'm just talking in general like I'm just talking from a cultural standpoint Typically us as humans will like to stick around with people of similar culture And and if and if the choice and choosing between one culture or the other will typically side with the culture We're more familiar with for sure. I understand. Yeah, I get yeah, I get that but um A lot of that might be based on just experience and understanding of cultures and I think it is okay to rank cultures and like maybe think certain cultures are superior to other ones right Oh, I don't have an issue with that. I'm not I also believe in what's called culture shock Right, so I believe that if you bring in somebody of like if you bring in too many people of a different culture within Let's say let's call it a corporate work setting Okay, and you have this particular corporate work culture and they go on a hiring spree and they hire like 50 people And the work culture completely changes and that oftentimes will change the dynamic of a workplace I don't think that often that sometimes can be good, but I think a lot of times that's bad Right and I and I and I think too much culture stock is a bad thing So yeah, sure. It's okay to bring in all all this Let's say it's a bunch of white dudes and they want to bring in some indian guy Okay, you're bringing some indian guy fine But if you bring in three or four indian guys out of 10 employees, you're gonna get a severe fifth No, right. I'm with you and like that's what I think it Like I'm not against like the melting pot, right? I'm I'm for that I am for all these different cultures coming together and all this working Yeah But like when you talk to when you talk about like dei and like mark cuban And his idea of what dei is and all these kind of things And it really comes down to being racial quotas You know, you're not necessarily like when you're Like let's say an airline like your priorities are making money and safety And when you start bringing like dei into it, you are compromising those things because then you're It's like you're ranking you're ranking these other Qualities that have nothing to do with anything And into the equation. I agree So like I think it's a problem. It's like that's what I feel like it's turning into like a mind virus Yeah, totally right. So like so I'll use like I like to use kebek as an example Okay, kebek has this obsession with the french language, right? And uh bowing was it bowing or was it bombardier? No bombardier. Okay. Bombardier, which is Quebec company, you know headquartered in Montreal They hired a new CEO that CEO didn't speak a lick of fucking french And this was like a fucking massive deal in the province kebek like, oh, you know They hired a fucking english guy in the fucking kebek He's got to speak french and this and that bombardier finally had to come out and say listen We hired the right guy for the right fucking job And speaking french on a multinational company is not as high of a requirement as being qualified to do the job Please leave us the fuck alone Well, like literally they the company had to come out and say a statement like that like like just leave us the fuck alone Yeah, I so it seems like we agree like what do you think uh In america, I think uh, you're about to see a tidal wave of lawsuits Washing over companies that are I think dei is about to die I think I really do and it should because it's just it's so wrong and I get Where well-meaning people are coming from in it. I get it. Okay. I do get that They want to help other groups kind of come up and hey, I'm all for that, but you cannot do that But you can't do that by becoming like Ku Klux Klan racist against another group. You know what I mean like I don't know What bothers me is that people don't seem to understand that like why not it's such a simple concept Well, I could agree with you that it seems How this is being implemented and how some people are taking advantage of the loose and vague Wording in the legislation it it does seem like in some cases it is an attack on white people and I would agree No, it is 100% it is an attack. It just I would say that in certain cases. It definitely is and I'm again I I'm like an old school left-winger. All right, and I'm against racism And I even hated white people one point when I was young But that's part of like what made me realize like something's not right about this, right? Again, I I don't have a problem though. I don't have a problem though with a private club That is blacks only I don't have an issue with that You want to be a member of a blacks black blacks only fucking member? I don't give a shit about that But if you want to have public funding you want this to be implemented and with through public funding and through any of that Yeah, I have an issue with that. Okay, so all right. We've been talking about that We need if we're debating you and me are debating is this are are we it is there other debaters? We gonna talk about I don't think we're just Well, okay, if you really want if yeah, what's up? What the sage divided the neurodust off? What what do you what do you all think about? How about this? What do you guys all think about? Right now, uh, Biden and our media play starting trying to like pass blame off on the border under republicans Like do you guys agree with that? Do you who do you guys think is to blame for the border right now? The government Yeah, like on mass The government. Yeah, I agree with that What do you agree? Huh? What is the answer? The government it's it's an either the government. I mean no, I mean no, no, okay Well, how can you say that when there's such a disparity between Trump and biden and especially? There's a lot of other factors in this but we'll start with this the fact that there is just such a disparity in the Uh catch and release of illegals into the country between Trump and biden like it's not there are There's been eight million into the country since biden took over That's insane. I mean, I don't I don't just I don't disagree with that. I mean like on the topic strictly of Of immigration if you're gonna compare track records. Yeah, of course Trump had an exceptionally better track record Right, um, but he he's a blip So to speak like true. That's fine Right, and that's fine, but like they're trying to pass blame literally on the trump. Joe biden said trump is to blame now for this Joe biden said that yet, uh two days ago He's yeah, I know I heard him say and basically he's just throwing out talking. I don't I don't like to use the word talking for it But things that people can say Because he knows that generally his entire base of followers are normie morons Okay, well and the media is also echoing this Okay, well, we can't do this. What are we all in an agreement on everything here? Do we did we did we check beforehand if both servers here were a total agreement on I had Initially, we were having a debate Yeah, I had actually come up here because you guys started talking to the dei step And I was just going to come behind your own tech and oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm all about a Debate here, you know what I mean like a lot a lot of different topics. I mean throw them out I mean, what are you okay? So I kind of want to touch on the elections, you know the the fact that we have um Like the the fact that biden was even unopposed this year entirely But entire democratic which has never happened before at least in my lifetime, you know I'm only 27 and I've been for free elections already So There were sanders there's uh, and then there was sanders again Andrew Yang and everybody else Mary Ann and there's only one who went against biden Mary Ann and then Trump is like everybody what trump kind of Uh, he's gonna win in a landslide No, obviously because you know, he's just very wrong when he was a foreign president anyway I don't think he has a chance of winning to be honest Uh, at least in the we're talking about like the republican primaries at least oh the prime. He's art. That's already done. He is but That's where anyway, I don't think he can win I'm talking about like listen to primaries like why is why didn't I didn't have nobody opposing him this year, right? Yeah, the the democrat party is essentially The uniparty now and they are moving us towards a one-party state 100% They want to criminalize Opposition to them. They want to say their opposition are terrorist and yeah threats to democracy and all this shit Guys, I'm like my belief is that we are heading towards an authoritarian one-party state And it is the democrats that are driving us that way and not just democrats But like uniparty republicans or whatever rhinos, whatever you want to call them There is a state apparatus that is trying to gain Total control and they are they're doing it. They're doing it That's true. I mean Then again, I feel like the I'm not gonna lie. I think Uh, I've always been somebody who Didn't matter what that it was so long as they're willing to make chains and instead of like an establishment or A status quo Thor rhetoric I was kind of for that doesn't really matter whether like to change the chaotic or not At least it was changed nonetheless. You know, I think uh for me I've voted standards originally back in 2016 and then I voted trump after uh, probably after um, After nothing realized as like Originally, yeah, and I was very much a left-finger before So for me, I'm gonna do this thing called not voting ever If also Because the uniparty the the uniparty parasite has the termites are have spread too far, you see Mm-hmm. If you get, you know, let's say a handful of, you know, non-uniparty voices inside congress Sure. It's like they are again, uh blip They actually they have you should you should give you a perfect example. It's the other day. They had zuckerberg at At a hearing anybody catch this Uh, I yeah, I watched yeah, I watched a little bit Did you notice how both sides of the aisle were We're taking him to task for crimes. He did not commit. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah To come and do the same from the public They're both the same party. The only thing that separates them is the only thing they share the basic same meta ethic That the difference is what they want to do with that meta ethic They they all want to remove your freedoms limits your freedoms. That's what they want to do both sides of the party One group says well, we want to do it for this and the other one says well, we want to do it for that Right. There's no difference between the two I just I just want to say uh, the the main reason why would like I'm pretty sure you follow this nervous like what would the solution be towards something like this one We're probably good. We're we're not only losing our freedoms. We've seen it before in the patriot act We've seen it before um, and oh, you're not gonna like what I have to say Well, of course, I don't mind come on. I like but at least it's true for at least I'm gonna say this is it I'm gonna say don't say anything like war because be honest like that's a whole other topic. It's don't say that So the trajectories of of states and the trajectories of societies can almost Always be kind of projected In the sense or anticipated in some manner in the sense that we are growing more and more unethical as a society And the only inevitable down the only inevitable end game to that is is downfall. It's collapsed Whether it be economically whether it be war that we've already been at war before It's happened. We've been at war for 30 years consistently with other nations Like this is a big time evil business. We're the killing people stealing this shit We're moving their freedoms the more and more we expand that leviathan more and more The water's gonna shrink up for it to swim in, you know, you know, what's happening is You have a political situation in the country where What I feel I think it's the democrats that end up lowering They end up lowering the standards over and over and then republicans join them afterwards It seems to be I might be biased, but I think I can prove it But I think that's basically the way it's going and we're just getting into lower and lower and lower Forms of discourse and both sides are justifying and rationalizing Doing more and more corrupt things in order to one up each other and it's just getting worse and worse So I agree with you totally Well, it's because they don't exist otherwise you you have to understand that the state cannot exist Otherwise it it can only exist through force, right? So if it spends all of its time Developing new laws and new regulations and yet it really offers nothing to the public Except telling the public well, if you don't abide by it, we're gonna hurt you. Well, okay the more that they The more that they develop the more they're gonna have to tell us this and the more that they tell us this the more Evil the state becomes it's dragon sickness. You see tokeen wrote about this Okay, can I also point out kind of an interesting Parallel to this and I think is probably just another symptom of our the way our society is kind of Decaying here is I don't I don't know how many of you guys watch like First amendment audit videos those kind of videos where people just like Film in public and just see if they can bait police and like trying to like Violate the right stuff Like it's insane To me like I started watching those videos. I have a couple like a while ago now But I am constantly amazed by how willing these police are to just completely Violate people's rights with no thought of it whatsoever even though they Take an oath to the constitution and I feel like it that is a symptom More local symptom of the greater problem that we're seeing and then we're seeing the exact same thing happen on a more grand scale across our country and I think people need to watch those videos. I talk about them here and there but You need to check for sure Yeah All right, um, basically it's kind of it reminds me of kind of like the stanford prisoner experiment or the program Yeah, that when you Put somebody in a situation that kind of violates Or kind of like points him in a position of power that they they can willy abuse or whatever or point in time You know, there's many people Yeah, it becomes a tribal mentality at the end of the day and then after that You know, you you kind of character You make a caricature of like the people inside the prisoner In the prison instead of like instead of like trying to realize that both of you guys are the human beings at the end of the day and it's um It's I think what the the original term for it's called the lucifer effect or somebody If you point somebody in the right to the circumstances, they can become much more evil more brutal and they tend to go out their way to Like have a uh Like an abuse of power or they they I think victor franco points it best is when when there's an abnormal situation There's an uh Abnormal reaction to an abnormal situation a normal reaction Because of how many people you know, like People can go out of their way lose their minds and everything else Wolf on the the prison side and both on the on the Um The press site and I feel like a lot of people are stressed out and not really taking I'm taking a step back to realize that we're all getting Fucked at the end of the day. Yeah, I I totally agree with you, man. I think the police um They just they it's almost like they can't help but turn into this Situation where literally like they see everybody as the enemy of the public Like I worked retail for a long time and I started hating the public right so like I can't even imagine Like what a police officer like what they deal with but that's not an excuse because they are public servants And they just can't act that way they had to be professional And I think you're right. I think it's almost like it's unavoidable Like there's we had to figure out some other way to do this because In the current situation the police just end up treating everybody in the public as if they are Prisoners almost, you know and they're prison guards So the whole thing about the police and their toxicity is it's so funny to hear You know normal folk who you know, perhaps maybe haven't gotten into my line of research and stuff Talk about how this stuff surprises them. I I would have you guys know that there is an entire literature An entire multi decade literature On the toxicity of law enforcement It's a thing. It's been a document problem. No doubt about it. I'm a convert I'm on the right and I used to be back to blue But now I realize back the blue until it happens to you There's a lot of problems with the police out there. No doubt about it Like they're just they're not trained correctly They know nothing about the they think that they take a note to the constitution But they think it's like a big joke like if you try to stand up for your rights They think it's like you're a sovereign citizen or something. It's like You like who who trained you they know nothing about the first amendment They know nothing about the the distinction between public and Like they don't know the laws It's it's worse than that dude So there's there's there's points at which you can defend them And then there's points at which you can't and some of the points at which you can't Like how they actually operate will take it from me, right? So I joined the Marine Corps not too long ago A couple years back, right? I ended up not going through the entirety of training because I kind of saw Me being the astute man. I am the sort of things that were Intrinsic to this line of work And so one of the things that they teach you while you're at bootcamp is um Citizens are the worst kind of scum This is the kind of things that they say to you verbatim citizens are the worst kind of scum They're people without any dignity without any honor without any discipline And yet here you are being trained to protect them I don't know about you Whenever you're trained to protect something that you hate it's not really something you feel like doing That's just one example of how toxic some of this shit is Right and don't give me wrong those that are off the charts Well, they have egos that are totally underdeveloped But yeah, they well say they have egos that have totally underdeveloped in a sort of Eric Eric sony in kind of sense, right? Like so you have these sort of developmental stages in life One of the big ones is the identity versus confusion Right if you can't actually properly formulate your identity and this actually ties back into the dei stuff You can't properly formulate your identity But well by the time you reach adolescence post adolescence, it's like dude There's a whole big chunk of you that hasn't been for it refined man and so A huge portion of what you find yourself inclined to do is going to be like kind of just stupid shit like for example in the case of Of police offices like their whole model is this weird deontic model of you know, I'm just following orders They don't know why they're following or they just know them's the rules Yeah And that's it. They'll say that They have no idea what they're talking about. They're like, here's the deal Yeah, yeah, I know They're coming from it from a well This came from on high And that's the way it goes and that's how they're going to treat you You stop where you are because I stay Stop where you are. That's right. I don't care right. They think they have this authority over people That's why I love the auditors because they're Opening people's eyes to these rights they forgot about and that the powers that we have been taking advantage of Right over a long period of time Precisely and again, I encourage everybody here to go check out the The literature on on the the toxic I mean like even even people that had been working in the fbi for 20 years Have written on this stuff like just like broad absolutely unacceptable toxic. There's huge programs like like neighborhood Um, what do they call it community policing programs that are that are trying to implement globally to get The police force less toxic. It's it's like that like they have implemented plans Again, there's a whole literature on it. Go check it out, man. Um But again at the same time there's stuff to there's there's there's points at which you can defend these people Right, so for example, it's like they do see crazy shit They see horrifying stuff, man Yeah, stuff that most normal people wouldn't want to see And if they did see they might be a little scarred and they got to see it quite frequently And no it's not encapsulated in their training. There's no training that can prepare you for the kind of stuff that they see Audis kids mutilated that kind of shit raped women Horrifying stuff That's true. Honestly. I think That's when I when you look at history for instance when moving with the Hootsies and Tootsie, you know Like what they I I forget which tribe exactly it was But the other tribe said that other but uh, their the minor tribe was uh, A bunch of cockroaches and that you needed this to get stepped on and the part of the brain that kind of lights It's time the same part of the firefly system, but also the part where you find something disgusting So when you find something morally disgusting or morally, you know here You know at that same part the amelistic part of the brain lights up to try to come like try to uh, like make the caricature of like, um That Uh, essentially dehumanizes, but also makes you want to eliminate a threat, you know You stop caring for the other human being, but then again, I think that In the end of itself, it's also humanistic because most of us don't go the way To care for people that we're not closely related to are essentially People so like most people if you were to look at Dunborn number, um, we can only have a 150 close interactions at a time And the reason why we have bigger interactions now as people and why we have morality and everything else is because we have common stories We tell each other like religion or capitalism or what so have you and You know, we know the right and wrong most of the time Or you know, we question or we're more more likely to not question what's very wrong But overall the idea of just, uh, like Like I guess I'm just going to tie this back around. Um, the idea of having Uh Having something that impacts the the same part of the brain That makes you disgusted makes you hateful weeks you I am makes you want to fight or flight Uh, after a certain period of time, you know, you know, like Causes things like tumors causes things like Like your amygdala being flared up and this is what happened with the white church white church shooter Uh back in the 1960s where he had uh, essentially Uh, it was raised as a marine had had a great life and everything else But unfortunately was focused he had so much ptsd from it He essentially developed a tumor and essentially shot up things and like entire crowds of people Like 70 people died So off of his camp at campus tower So I think overall if you're exposed to long enough your your your brain chemistry Who you are essentially the person changes overall So I guess that's my piece All right, y'all well, I don't know. I don't know what we have to argue about but We might as well just wrap this up because I feel like we all agree about everything Basically, yeah, but sometimes that's that's half the fun man, you know, like Fuck dude, I wish more people agreed with me about a lot of things because I mean, I just feel like they'd be happy or something Yeah, I know You guys are all cool. I really like y'all. You're a cool group of guys I'm definitely gonna recommend everybody come and check out your discord Yeah, um, it's crazy here Yeah, man. I'm listening to y'all guys make sure to subscribe guys Trying to grow it as well So, hey, you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't think we're just promoting right now. You know, I know you're good Yeah, put that plug in bro. What are you talking about plug in? Y'all plug If somebody wants to come up, hey, um, I'm gonna put it in the the channel description Towards the comments and I'm good and I guess we're just gonna piece off in there. So yeah I'm gonna go because uh Yeah, I'm old and I'm tired. So do you guys are do you guys play any video games? I mean, yeah Two years straight. All right. Hey, I mean man. Do you guys play Fortnite? Yeah, do you play? Play what once I guys Guys just one second before you do too much video game talk. WB. Do you want to keep the stream going? Uh, hello at mind up to you guys Yeah, okay. Well if somebody else wants to come up if somebody else wants to do if somebody else wants to come up, uh We can keep going. No, bro. That's for fucking teeny-boppers Hey All right, I'll come join you guys in a minute. I think I'm still on. Yeah, here we go Hey, everybody. How you doing? It's not I come and uh talk to you by myself here for a little bit Man, that was not exactly what I thought it would be. I was thinking it was going to be like an adversarial You know like debate server, but turns out we all just agree. I don't know whatever That's how it goes. They were they're good guys. I I like every person I talked to in there So you should definitely go check out the server. They have a really well laid out server Way more people than ours right now, but uh, hey, you know, we're building ours. So You should kind of mind instead I was thinking about uh Talking about some videos actually right now with you guys just just you and I Talking about some videos that I actually wanted to make I wonder it's funny. So every day I Think about what I'm going to make for a video, you know And I latch on to something usually something that I know I can like it hyped up about and make fairly easily And I found something today and I'm working on it. It's nearly done, but About midway through working with it. I something else popped up that I much would much rather do uh having to do with the view and I am sure by tomorrow everybody will have been talked has talked about it But so it's going to be pointless, but maybe we could talk about it now Maybe I can just make a video out of that I'm thinking about it. Let's do it. You guys want to you guys want to talk about the view and go over a view video Let me see if I can find it here real quick But hey, I either way I really appreciate you all watching as always Some of you have been watching this channel going back like five six years. I really appreciate it I love seeing you all in there the fact you you all have been with me this long, right? I just love seeing you like millionaire and Cindy and all of you all of you Cindy been she's been around forever All right folks. I'm just gonna go ahead and end it because I don't really have anything planned here I guess we could do the thing I was just talking. Oh the Tucker interview with Putin I really want to watch that. Have you guys watched that? All right, let me find uh, let me see me if I can find the Clip that I wanted to talk about here one second. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Let's do it I want to do it. Let's do it Hold on I'm just gonna do it now and I'll make a video of it Okay, so Oh, here we go. All right. So let me set you up a little bit Here we have sunny hosting who has a long track record of using the view to basically fear of anger and demonize white people in america She does not like them. She fears white people She thinks so all of us are a bunch of racist monsters who are out to get her and people like her She quite literally makes up stories about things that happen to her and then she repeats those stories over the course of years and changes the details like their new events that happened and uh Given that I just want to show you what happened to her on the view today. Check this out You know, I was really reluctant I don't know how you felt when you did it whoopee, but I was really reluctant to do it because I just sensed that there could be something in my family History that would be um disappointing. Um negative disappointing. What is that? I thought I was gonna have that kind of moment and skip had asked me to do it for a long time And I finally decided wait, why would you it's just weird So you're gonna get a genetic test and you just think there might be something that you don't want to know about I don't feel like that about my background Does anybody else like if I was talking about about my background, I'd be excited for some odd reason She's a little bit nervous about it. Hmm. I wonder why that is To do it because I thought it'd be helpful for my children and my children's children to know what their real Real history was, you know, but what I found out was that my mother's family while Um, they are Puerto Rican. They actually originate from Spain They're Puerto Rican, but they're white just so you know, they're white And the reason that they moved to Puerto Rico is because the slave trade had been sort of Cancelled in Spain and then Curacao and then they moved all of their slaves to Puerto Rico And so the business the family business I had been told that they were printers and journalists But they were in fact enslavers And my mother Deeply disappointing Oh, oh, that's interesting because And that came to us from newsbusters, by the way, one of my favorite websites That's just very interesting because Sunny hosting just a couple weeks ago. If you look at my channel on not a couple weeks ago a week ago If you look at my channel, I did a video about it. Sunny hosting said that she believes Most white people in America are racist Okay She said Just think about that for a minute. Okay, it's like imagine you're a white person on tv And you think and you get on there and you're like, I think most black people are a threat or dangerous or violent Most black people are violent You would immediately immediately lose your job, right? Of course, and you'd be ostracized from society from there on out Sunny hosting can get on tv and say I think most people are most white people in America are racist And it's like no big deal and I find it really interesting that If you look at most white people in America, they have no connection to slavery whatsoever. Okay, most white people in America Uh A big chunk of them came, you know, long after Slavery, uh, they came in the mid like mid 1800s had nothing to do with slavery Or even if their lineage goes back to the founding of the country They probably had no way of affording slaves They had no connection to slaves like the amount of white people that has slaves during that time It was a small amount of rich like upper class people that had the slaves In reality, most slavery was going on in South America If you look at America, it was like at the peak. I think around 300 000 slaves But if you look at South America, you got like Jamaica and almost a million slaves. You got Brazil and Pretty much everything they're all way more than 300 000 slaves. Okay, and these are brown people And the fact of the matter is just slavery was worldwide, right? Like it was Middle Eastern. It was Arabs. It was white people. It was black people buying and capturing and selling slaves. It was it was the whole world. Okay, but People like Sonny Hostin believe because of propaganda that this was a white thing. It was white people Okay, the reality is that it was a very small amount of white people and the white people In America today almost nobody has any connection to that but guess who does Sonny Hostin Sonny Hostin who gets on national television and says that white people are the most white people are races She at her family not only owned slaves and the family business was slaves But they freaking moved around the world so they could keep their slaves. And where did they go? South America? They went to Puerto Rico. Okay Like it just blows my mind people like this Uh, the left in general tries to make slavery a white thing and the fact of matter is it just isn't and and and They they whine about The history of slavery in black america not being taught in schools But the the truth is they don't want the actual history taught They do not want it taught that like slavery compared to the world was actually in america pretty small it was And to this day slavery is going on you have arabs Uh buying and selling african slaves you have africans buying and selling african slaves Black people and arabs are still still have the slave trade going heavily So, you know, I just wanted to throw that out there. I saw this today And uh, hold on. There's actually more to this. Let me let me play the other clips one second So, honey, how does this change you though? You mentioned your mom was upset and this was shocking and maybe deep down You kind of resisted it. How has this changed you knowing what you're hearing now? You know, I think at first I was deeply disappointed. It didn't change anything about her thing is a bummer. It's a bummer Oh, it's a bummer I still believe So y'all can stop you can't control it emailing me. I just love that she just said that she's like you can't control it Oh, she can control it. It's literally in her very recent Like family heritage, right? But the america we all have to pay like white americans have to pay for like things They're not even connected to but when we're talking about a woman who just found out like literally within a couple generations Were major slave owners You can't control that And saying that i'm a white girl and that I don't deserve reparations That's I still believe Wait, she just said she still wants reparations. She just She literally thinks because her skin is slightly brown that she deserves reparations She just said that I gotta kick it back. Check it out. Oh, no So y'all can stop texting me and emailing me and saying that i'm a white girl and that I don't deserve reparations Wait, wait, wait Wait, she's mad that people are saying she's a white girl Or you can't say i'm a white girl. You can't say that. That's the worst thing you could be You can't say that about me like folks Believe me when I tell you that these people are dangerous not only because they can rationalize anything In pursuit of their agenda, but because they have no self-awareness and that lack of self-awareness makes them very Dangerous they can do very bad things to all of us while committing themselves that they're saving the world I still believe What they called you white? Oh my god, that's the worst thing You are television screen White people I I I still believe in reparations. I still believe this country has a lot to do in terms of racial justice um But what I will say sarah to your question is that I feel that um I'm enriched by knowing That history I'm enriched and I'm enriched by oh, she's enriched Being us uh having a history of being a slave owner is actually enriches her doesn't enrich you You're white. You're bad because Whites are bad, but She owned slaves her family and recent history owned slaves, but and then enriches her Her skin is brown slightly brown Basically as brown as I get in the summer But she's brown and then absolves her and she actually deserves reparations By knowing that my family has come so far from being enslavers to my mother marrying my father in 1968 Wow, okay, so just so we're clear here. This is um This is sonny hoson's mom Clearly a you know south american woman latino woman Who's you know trying to look as white as she can so these people try to look as white as they can and then You know they distance themselves from white people and accuse white people of all the evils in the world Wow, I just And like, uh, nicholas, uh, uh fornicano says here from newsbusters. I love this guy. He's check him out He says that in the past hoson has claimed that all white people and this is what I was pointing out continued to reap the benefits of slavery Regardless of family history. So yeah, just That's what I'm just talking about She just said the white people are like somehow guilty that we're all somehow reaping the benefits What her family within like a couple generations the whole family business was slavery Yeah, my I just had an aneurysm. I'm sorry like And it doesn't stop there. I'm gonna do a video about this I'm doing a video but I'm not I'm not going through all this now but Wow, all right folks, I'm gonna go ahead and wrap this up now because that uh about did me under But uh, I appreciate you all watching and uh suffering through the view with me here for a minute And uh going through the interesting discussions we had with the nexus server I thought it was going to be more adversarial, but it was Excuse me. It was uh, mostly we all agreed, but hey, you know what? It's only through peace that we advance this world. So Maybe it's good that we all agreed, but anyway, I hope you all enjoyed it and I thank you for watching And I would like you to go and watch more of my videos and hit that like button on all of them And go to my patreon and consider Supporting this channel for three dollars a month for three dollars a month. I'm gonna give you unedited news clips I'm gonna give you Adlist videos. 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