 Oh, hello wiki treers Friday date nighters. How is everybody? I just realized that we can start I just realized we can start doing the intro for these two. I Remember that right when I click should I do it now? Let's do it now. Just you guys want the intro. Do you want to do it? I think I think we should do it. Hold on. Let me get okay. Hold on guys. We'll be right back Hi Julie How's it going? We could probably come up with the Friday date night one with some romantic music and Okay says there's no sound did it not play our music for you. Can everybody else here is can you hear us now? Dude, oh, they loved it was good. Whoo. Well, Katie did She's speaking for all of them Good shoot Okay, yes Nancy has sound awesome Okay, yeah Wait, do we want a luscious candles or do we want real candles? Real camp where were you there for that when we talked about it later? Yeah, it's funny Don't ask us to bring those up because I can't even I Can't even even I Really don't need it would really like some romantic music for the date night Won't work on that. Well, I'm sure in our spare time She gets there to help us Yeah, Sarah's so good at stuff like that in all the graphics and everything she does a good job. Oh Yes, Kay has fresh strawberries. We want those share According to Nancy, but I'm with her on board. Yeah It's the new 27 inch monitor you can see but not here. Whoops They not you don't have well, why can't I get to keep? We've got Carol from Michigan she loves the intro. Oh Thank you Carol. Yeah, it was fun You guys are we've got a pretty good crew here tonight We don't usually pull in a ton of people for this because it's kind of hard work, isn't it? Finding dates, but it's a lot of fun Yeah, how many from the bio state again? Hi Tommy Welcome back so Today, I thought we've got a few new people who were propped in today I think we picked up some folks from the cleanathon Which is very exciting So I thought maybe we could run through our little decision Chart for what to do when you find a date Or if you don't find a date We're gonna go Full-screen, how's that so exciting? Is isn't it exciting? I am excited That was not so I actually am excited you are I know you are oh wait a minute When you find a date or maybe you can't So Let's just walk through this step by step So the most important thing that you want to do when you're able to track down a date for your profile is to add the citation for the source I Don't know about everybody else but my first stop is always family search because I can usually find a census record or Marriage record or something out there That will help me. So that's always a good good place to start and Then of course you add the date. Well if the person is deceased you'll add the source and the date and Oh, I've got this out of order. I need to be right Of course, you're gonna save it and Then you can do a search for matches from the profile ID menu because a lot of times Because these profiles don't have dates They either won't show up in a list of duplicates when somebody else creates the same profile. I Think or they will or there's gonna be like a whole bunch of profiles that show up And it's just kind of hard to sort through all of that So it's always good to check and see if you might have a duplicate for the newly dated profile that you found So if you do find some proposed submerges If they're both orphaned you'll be able to just put the merge through but please be careful make sure that they are matches Let's see you can check and see if there's any Unmerged matches that are proposed for that profile because Adding the date and finding additional family members might help you clear that up so you can either reject it or propose a new merge and Then you can be on your merry way knowing you did a really good thing So if your profile ends up being for a person who might still be living you still want to add the source and the date If you can't find a source, but you can tell by looking at the dates on the other people You you can usually tell whether they it's a good chance that they're living so right now Fix that zero-date problem. You're gonna have to do something to Close up the profile. So what you could do is click go down to Let me see here. Let me do something. I'm gonna go to a profile and show you what to click Okay We're gonna go into the edit mode on Mrs. Miss cover here If you go into a profile and you go down to the death date and you'll see a little thing here called still living If you click that when you cannot find a date for a profile, but you're pretty sure they're still living It will allow you to save it and it will set the profile to unlisted So the important thing is can you guys see that on the screen? It popped me into a new window. So I don't think you can probably see what I'm talking about. Can you Hey Owen, no I'm sorry. It's okay It opened a new tab Any who? Any who? Any who? Here we can do this. There we go. Now you can see her So edit Go down to the death date and then right here is the still living indicator So again, the person is alive and you're sure Pretty sure Use that and it will set the profile to unlisted and So if you're going to do that before You do that you need to add our wiki tree admin category and I didn't rehearse any of this before we started So I'm a little over all over the place. I apologize So just make sure you put fine So There's two things you need to think about before you add the wiki tree admin category first of all do it before you try To close the profile up Second if it already has a manager, you don't have to do that because they the whole idea Adding that category is when there's no manager And we need to make sure that I can find it later and take care of it and find I always try to find managers for them. Sometimes we can't But that's okay. We'll figure it out So anyway You're gonna always add the source use the still living indicator if you think they're still living and you can't find a date Make sure you add the wiki tree admin category if there is no manager. Those are the key points What do you think I? Think that's great. Does anybody have any questions at this point? Steven said at some point you must put a date before doing that, right? Not if you're no, not if you're using the still living indicator If you feel fairly certain they're still living and you can't find a date Just use the still living indicator and I'll let you save without a date in there. Hi Emma So should we talk about estimating dates for just a minute? Yes, we should okay. Well, let's do that How do you estimate dates? There's a help page for that Hey here look at that Help estimated dates, it's pretty easy to find So this will cover all of our rules of thumb for estimating dates based on location time period good rule of thumb Women were usually about 20 when they got married and men were usually around 25 So you can usually use that as a good rule of thumb for estimating the dates of people if you don't have If they're if they don't have their own children you can look at their parents in other words if you have their children Then you can usually subtract from the child's birth date And of course you can always look for christened christening and baptismal dates But you need to kind of know how to know a little history about this stuff because it depends on the part of the world It depends on what religion they practiced True yeah, so some people were Were baptized when they were born some people weren't baptized until they were adults. So it just kind of depends and Then if you are estimating Use the uncertain indicator because that's a good flag for somebody popping in to know that that date there may or may not be Very accurate and then you always want to add an Explanation How you arrived at the date because that's really good if you find it if you think it's their oldest child and you estimate their date to be 20 years after the mother's date But they're the fourth or fifth child that's just going to be way off. So you just got to be careful And you always Want to add the estimated date template Because that'll put a big banner up at the top Wonder if it'll show that on here Yeah here this banner will pop up at the top of each profile when you use the estimated date Template and you have options for how to use it And it will also place that That profile in a category based on the date that was estimated So that other people who like to work on stuff like that can go find them. I think that's good Yes So what do you think guys any questions on that? Oh? here June has remembering colonial times of the changes if the changes churches They're me. Oh, yeah, if they change churches, they might have another That's really good point June Yep, excellent Yeah, because that could really throw you off if you thought they were baptized as a child and they were actually an adult Later on as an adult. Yeah. Yeah true See Stephen has a good point about birth locations You want to put the location in according to what record? It's not the way I wanted to say that according to the record for that particular fact So their birth location should be based on their birth Record, but you know 50 years later 70 years later when they passed away They might live in the same place, but it changed names. So you need to call it whatever it was when they When they lived there or when the event occurred and you can explain that in the bio too Yes, absolutely. Yeah That's what I love about our bio section. You can just say whatever you need to say What were you saying? June had a question. Would you use the banner for estimating the date with the gravestone date estimator? I guess you could I Mean if you don't have a document and you're estimating a date and giving an actual day and month and year from the calculator It probably wouldn't hurt to put a note in that that's how you got to that date I don't do you think they would need to use that the Estimated date template at that point because it's still gonna be fairly close. I Would just use maybe the uncertain. I don't know if you really need the template for that one Yeah, just use the uncertain indicator and put a note in Yeah Yeah, so what else what else are we talking about out here? He says if you find a source for an undated profile and there's a location there But the profile doesn't have a location. Please add it. Yes, please Our we were just talking about this a-one and I the earlier It's like if you are touching a profile if you're gonna go in and work on a profile Try to leave it the best as you can when you go So we know that a lot of our efforts and challenges focus on one little aspect of a profile But just imagine how nice it would be if you did as much as you could while you were there because it's really gonna Help somebody else out when you leave and they find it later Yeah, it could always help. I mean, what if what if you're the one who added the information that helps somebody find their long-lost great-grandmother, you know Wouldn't that be fabulous? It'd be awesome. I'd be very excited Yeah, I always think about that when I'm looking at the census listings And there's like a border or a farm laborer or somebody who's not related to the family, but they're listed there I always create a profile for them because I think what if somebody's been looking for them for years and Nobody ever took them off the census and put them somewhere Yeah, especially if their name was spelled weird or something So I don't know I just have As as the longer I do this the more I'm interested in Getting down into the details, which is why people need to send me a rope everyone Come out Julie Let's see what else you seen any questions pop up here Haven't been answered Hey, Roger Shipman. Welcome. I don't think we see you at Friday date night. Have we I Don't know but Robin Schultz was excited. She made it here before the chat ended Yes, she's missed it the last couple of times I think We like I said, we do have some new Friday date night people so I'll just give you a quick rundown This is pretty loosey-goosey as far as we don't add scores We're just here to improve profiles have some fun get to know each other a little bit Um, we're all gonna be over on discord after this so you can ask questions if you have them everybody's always helpful We only do the video updates every other Friday Don't do it every week. Oh, I know what I was gonna share We had a milestone. Oh, yeah I'm not gonna bother with the screen. I'll just bring up the numbers here This is very exciting after the clean-up on we Improved the date on over 5,000 profiles for the clean-up on So I saw art. I know so our total improved for Friday date night profiles is 16,340 Since we started in November Very cool. I Know I'm very excited Very cool. It just makes makes researching these people a lot easier as we go So got anything else anyone got any good stories to tell us? You know, I Really don't Have you recovered from the clean-a-thon yet? I think so although now I have a cough. Sorry I Recovered from the clean-a-thon everybody's that responded has their t-shirts ordered to say I think I gave out all the badges to people who should have badges so yeah Danita said she had somebody thank her for adding profiles or dates to profiles during the clean-a-thon That's a good feeling. I love that Like going through my thank-you feed every now and then just to see if I made anybody stay I used to it's funny like I used to obsessively check that Yeah, I hardly ever remember to know Yeah, I sometimes I'll pop over there. Just think about it. It's I Don't I'm so you know we're you and I are bouncing around so much from one one One thing to another all day long, so it's you know hard to remember to go do that But it is if you're having a bad day go look at your thank-you feed. Oh Nancy's excited about her t-shirt Good I'm excited about your t-shirt to know Lin says there are questions above this comment Let's see I'm scrolling up. We're talking about something specific here. Oh You know what you guys are talking about something here that you could talk about over on Probably over on discord if you need if somebody needs help with their with a specific profile or something You can either post it on g2g and get the community to help you or if it's something related to Friday date night You can pop into the channel over there and See if people can help you track something down if you're stuck I'm wearing purple. I think you are No, it's black black. Yeah Okay, I think we're done. I Think so. I think they're ready to date things My dogs are sleeping. So they're not even here to add excitement No, I'm grateful They're both a little worn out today I Got nothing else though Well, let's go and let him do stuff. All right guys. We'll see you over on discord come and join us And otherwise have a great weekend Bye