 Hey guys, hey, this is mine pump. You've been listening for like three years, and we've only been on air for two Probably keep supporting us. We need you to go to the website at mine But not just telling people we need money go to mine pump Natural thing mine pump media calm go there and roll in the mass super bundle or the RGB bundle And you're gonna get the no BS six pack formula the fasting guide and the nutrition guide absolutely free Keep hypnotizing guys help Justin. I know you have a PayPal account. They have kids help them They need to eat if you want to pump your body and expand your mind There's only one place to go Might pop might pop with your hosts Salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews A while ago there was a dude that worked out in one of the gyms that I managed big motherfucker like I see we go Yeah, I was and I was young. I was like, let's see. I must have been 20s like one of the first gyms that I managed So and I've always look I've got it, you know I've got gay people in my family were very love loving family I was never I've always been very open-minded not a big deal But I did without realizing subscribe to the stereotype that you know, you know, they're not as masculine, right? This big-ass dude and big muscular motherfucker comes in to work out of my gym all the time dudes fucking jacked Strong as shit and he's a kickboxer and so we would talk a lot afterwards and he'd show me these moves Or I mean one day I went to the gym where he trains and the dude was hitting a heavy bag Which is fucking crushing it and another dude walks in another big dude, and they're like, hey, what's going on? What's up, bro, and they kiss each other On the lips, and I'm like, whoa And so afterwards I'm like, dude, I'm like didn't even make sense I'm like, is that your boyfriend? He's like, yeah, yeah, he's like you didn't know I was gay I'm like, well, no, I don't know Because I'm like a tough dude and I'm like and I felt stupid But I felt so stupid some like well, I guess that's why I thought I didn't think you were and I was like I remember realizing like geez I totally fell into that stereotype because you know, which is obviously not true Yeah, because he could easily easily kick my ass Yeah, so anyway, that happened to me once actually you got your ass kicked. Yeah, no One of the guys was like super masculine like that and I was like we're I was training him and then I had no idea and He did all kinds of like You know sports and stuff we like totally got off everything was great You know and it was just like I had no idea he came in his boyfriend came in and they're you know hanging out and grabbing Ass and stuff. It was interesting. Yeah, I only feel I only feel awkward and weird when I Assume that he's a heterosexual and he's not that's when I feel awkward Like if you're just I just you're talking to someone and to you to me I don't see any of those like you said stereotypical signs that would tell me he's gay or not And then I assume he has a girlfriend or a wife and I ask about his girlfriend like oh So do your girlfriend go here all the time and it's like well, it's funny And then I get a little more comfortable with settle hands like no my partner And I actually do this and then I do it again by about the third time I go what an asshole He was he was giving me a little fucking freebies to let me know like I said partner partner and I'm just like yeah So she this is she and yeah, yeah, we just totally assume. I know I just that's why I love it Well, like somebody's like super like out there and like extravagant, you know, it's awesome Thanks for the side. It's like, you know, thanks It's just one of those stereotype things Well, the only way we're 35 years old we grew up in a different era right now. I mean it's it's been a trend I think it's true 20 younger. It's a total day. It's totally different. Oh my god 18 years ago It was very it was very different, you know, the stereotypes were incurred I mean that encouraged but they were reinforced by conversation stuff like that now, you know, you know, obviously I know better but it's pretty it was it was pretty funny to see the dude walking and kiss him And I was like what just happened. See, I don't know I always had just explodes I always find it fascinating as a society how we like when we're behind like with our way of thinking, right? Very cavemen with that that mentality, but I also find it crazy how we we always tend to go extreme one or the other It's like, you know, and then I just put everybody in a box Yeah, I feel I feel like, you know, we they go out of their way and you know what this kind of reminds me of So Sal last night sends me a text message. Here we go. He sends me Not that one the one before that actually Yeah, before you your mind turned me on so much He sends me a text message and Katrina and I were literally just getting ready to Netflix and chill But literally watch Netflix and documentaries wasn't sex. Yeah, it wasn't that so we are code word We were in the documentary section. So right now something that our New Year's resolution I don't know if I shared this on air or not, but I'll share it. What's more TV? Yeah, so no, we have we have decided that our goal is to go at least three to four times out of the week But we said, you know, never will we let seven days go by where we don't make this time for ourselves And that sounds weird because we sleep together every single night and we we see each other all the time and communicate But so much of what we communicate and do is related to business and related to other stuff and very surface And sometimes we can just get tired and just crash and then realize that hey We're not always working on our relationship and I think that's an important thing especially when you're in one that you've been in for a long time we six years we've been together and It's important to set the create these habits and so one of these habits that we're trying to create for ourselves is that We do something that is educational for ourselves, but we also understand it's late at night on a weekday or like that So part of that we're okay with it being entertainment So sometimes we listen to an audiobook that we both want to listen to and learn about or One of us will read and share sometimes It's just us sharing and talking about stuff and then sometimes it's watching a documentary where we actually get something from it, right? That's good information. So we are literally doing that when you sent over that text message So it was perfect and watch the the was it was it called minimalism? The yeah the minimalism minimalism or the minimalist something like that. It's you know It's funny. So you're talking about you're so this is one of the things I love the most About Jessica. It's like something I absolutely love is when I hang out with people sometimes. I I have a pretty keen sense of how people receive me and Sometimes I can tell that I'm being annoying or boring receive you all of it But yeah, sometimes I can tell that like if I'm hanging around with people and like hey Let's watch TV and I'll be like cool. I can find something good and it's like I'm gonna watch a documentary and people are everyone's like You know here we go sound but anyway, I'm hanging out with my girl and I'm like, hey Do you want to watch Westworld which by the way? We've been kind of watching a little bit I knew you love it and she's like hmm. She's like I'm not really in the moon She goes hey, you want to learn something and I'm just like oh Damn it. I got the right girl. She's made for you So that's why we we went and looked at the documentaries and we put on God we got to find the right name of it cuz I don't want to I don't want to I want to Oh, you test the right one because we do we search you right away when she searched it I popped right up. Yeah, I think either one of those will pop up But what I can't remember what sent me down this road to why I wanted to share with it But I thought it was a great Great it had a great message There was a great message behind The documentary and so a quick synopsis. I don't want to be spoiled, you know spoiler anything I think everybody should watch it. I think there's there is something to take away from it is this the idea of Living living with just the bare minimums what you need Versus this excessive amount of stuff that we have and they had some great studies in there They showed like just the increase in in sales over the last like, you know, 20 years like 1970 and before like there's this pretty Pretty natural growth of you know consumers buying things now, of course, there's things like, you know What's the company that sends everything over that's changing the game? I can't even I can't Amazon Amazon yeah, Amazon is like obviously been a game changer for the ability for us to Buy things and have it the next day. And so there's other there's always there's definitely factors But I mean, it's like astronomically different It's what they were showing because they're showing this growth curve of the amount of stuff that we buy and then it kind of exploded after the 70s and Now we live in how way more space houses are much bigger, but we they were pointing interesting things out like they did this heat map of where families spend time in their house and most people spend about 99% of their time in about 40% of the house like people have a living room and nobody goes in living room They have a dining room. Nobody eats at that new day You know, they have like several areas to sit down and eat but they only eat at the kitchen table There's there's a there's a patio that nobody spends time in there's you know Areas of the house that we don't spend time in and we've got this big space But yet we're not utilizing we just have more space or we just have more stuff like I you know When I was watching I was thinking about my kids, right? I mean Justin, I know you can you can relate to this like Christmas time Literally, I'll drive my home my kids home from Christmas with so much shit in the back of my car Yeah, there's no fucking way they'll get they'll get through it all you're already strategizing it Where can I hide this and then eliminate it exactly like they're not even gonna play with it all No, and then I look at myself and I look at my wardrobe and I open my closet and I'm like hmm I wear the same 10 pieces of clothing all the time and very very rarely or never I would argue like fun. Do I wear this other shit? But that's me that's my point that that was kind of the point of this and what was interesting about it because they definitely had Speakers on there that I think got the message wrong. Oh definitely and it comes off as a religion I was very interested to see where it was gonna go and why you sent me in this direction because I was like Get the fuck out of here I'm gonna like this thing up at the end of this because I I was like I liked the message But the problem I have with it is this let me back up a little bit So what they did really good and I is what we're talking about is that I think a lot of us in general now This is an over generalization, but for the most part a lot of us live in excess. We don't need a lot of the things I'll be the first one to I mean I'm the guy with fucking like 400 pairs of shoes, of course, right? I have a shoe for every day So, you know, is that excessive sure but there is a point that they talked about to where there's certain There's learned there's balance to that right like certain things have meaning to you and have that are important to you And they make you feel good. Well, that was the message the message that I got from it because there were people that were speaking on there again Where I'm like, okay, they totally don't get it like these people are Some of these people use it as a religion and I don't need I only got what I need type of deal But the reality is is it do do the things that you own serve you So for example Adam with your shoe collection, you fucking love your shoe collection. You have so much fun with it It's something you enjoy doing that's okay But think of all the things that we own all the shit that we own that doesn't serve us that we could give nut We could give two fucks about right that's the difference and that's I think the I'm big on purging Yeah, I love that's like one of the biggest Therapy things for me. Yeah, nothing to do with that But like as far as like clutter and shit in my house like oh my god it's it's such therapy for me to go through and take shit to the dump and just be like I'll see you later and Never again and then you know, that's that's you just kind of see this accumulation of stuff that just like sits there And it annoys me because it's you know that nobody's using this stuff Why do I even have this here and I was I was thinking of as you guys were talking about this I haven't seen this documentary yet by the way But it reminds me of the last thing that we watched on Ted talks with the guy talking about Addiction and how he actually was describing how people have like, you know all this space in their house And they've you know, we've built all these walls and like we're connecting with stuff more than we're connecting with people And so this is like one thing one of the problems that you know, even with drugs It's like a connection that I'm making with this that I'm not getting from a physical. They got into this right I did this was this part was interesting to me the meditative and all stuff Yeah, and just the way and what how much and because I feel like it's kind of similar to the message that we give With being the counter to the industry right the fitness industry is promoting one message We really are trying to represent the pushback on that in this in a sense, right? I feel like the same thing goes with kind of their message with the minimalism is man right now like Advertising and companies are pushing this image when in reality It's really not like that and it's unfortunate because where they showed these markers of like the increase of Purchases and people buying more and more things It's like they were it's going up the amount of stuff that you that you don't need when The the amount of money that people the average income and stuff like that is not increasing at that rate So we're just and they're showing like, you know, especially with like they talked about people that are depressed and sad like More sales more sales and you're trying to fulfill this part of your life And I why I like retail therapy is I remember okay I remember this this was this happened for me So I I totally connected with these two guys both guys had a very similar childhood as mine So they have these they have these horrific stories right of their parents and stuff and you know Whatever we could talk all day whose was worse or whatever, but we all had a rough childhood That's that's funny. I thought the exact same thing when I watched it Oh, right away because I saw it right away and I was like, ooh Adam's gonna connect with so totally right So I totally get What was their drivers and I also get I had that moment in my life and I and I've kind of briefly shared this on the podcast before where I you know Eddie I pushed really hard at a young age to be successful and I used to tell people I really believed in my head. I was gonna be retired by 30 really truly believe that and I was on a mission to do that And really what that was was because I didn't have much growing up And so it it motivated me to push at this level So I connected with those guys and I got that and then I remember A point in my life and where I had a lot I financially and and with tangible things and monetary right stuff like so Once I I got that and I realized that My my life at that time Was no better as far as my happiness and how I felt about My relationships and everything else going on besides my financial success I actually really it took a lot for me to step out and go like Wow, I'm nowhere near the happiest. I've ever been in my life Yet I have the most stuff I've ever had in my life and at that moment My whole thinking of how I bought things and the stuff that I would go after completely changed And you know someone that that's an outsider looking at me Oh, how can you say that because you have all these shoes and you're into watches Well, yeah, these there are certain things that I have invested in that I that I bought because just like sal said I've learned to connect what things Do make me happy I do enjoy having versus the things that were like that were that were poorly motivated for example I was notorious all through my 20s I was that guy who when I bring all my friends and we there'd be 10 of us all out and I picked up every bar tab You know because I could you know because I could do things like that Or I was doing things in excess as far as like spending money on things that were just ridiculous that Would never not only hold value But would also be burnt and gone and vegas trips and crazy stuff like that Once I realized that these were not fulfilling my life It changed my whole philosophy. It changed my drive the way I looked at money things like that So I connected with all that what I didn't like about it was the extreme side of it where It became almost religious and then and I don't like the first thing I had to ask myself was okay Look at these guys right and they they were they referenced like they moved up in the corporate ladder So I'm guesstimating that they were making a hundred to 150 grand a year Which to me I've always used to tell Katrina that the difference between 70 and 150k to me is very very little It's not life changing making no money and making 70 Especially yeah where you where we live. Yeah, it's all around. It's all around Scientists have actually established that they've shown that money does buy happiness up to a certain point once you get Once you have shelter once you have clothing once you have food You have access to certain things anything over that you don't get any happier This is why lottery winners are depressed There's studies done on this on people who win the lottery and it shows their happiness level spikes For about a year and then it goes right back down to where it was before and they're no happier than they were Before they lost their purpose, you know like I I don't know I I tend to think that like those those types of people that get fortunate enough to get that kind of a An influx of cash like if you can't figure out How do you to you know, you put that to use and to work and to help people or to do something with it Then that's the problem. You know if you're if you're looking at it is like I just absorbed all of this and this is all about me You know like I could see that being depressed Well, see something I kept I wrote down and kept just referencing several times as I was watching the documentary because one thing that I I didn't like is how they demonized Producers they demonized Yes industries, you know like when in one scenario they were talking about how the fashion industry You know in the 50s and 60s had like three seasons And now I think there's 56 seasons because their goal is to keep Making new clothes and make styles go out faster and new styles come in faster So people have to keep buying more and more clothes. Yeah, and it's true people own Ridiculous amounts of clothes, especially compared to people 50 years ago and they're blaming the producers of that But really it's yeah, that that's our own fault. Yeah, that's consumer driven But here's a thing like I kept writing this down that that man that mankind's greatest strength It can also be its greatest weakness. That's one of my fate. I always say one of our greatest strengths is our desire to Want to you know create more and do better and solve problems But it also becomes one of our greatest weakness because then we apply it in areas that don't necessarily serve us For example, we could back off that throttle for sure. Yeah, for example, like we apply so much of our productive ability To clothes And there's some good side effects of that look people lots of people make a good living doing it It's definitely made clothes so inexpensive that now We don't necessarily see people going without clothes anymore. We have so many clothes that we throw them away now, right? So there's there are some good side effects. There's also the bad side effect of imagine if we took all that productive capability And applied it towards other things imagine if we solved the problem with clothes But then moved away from that and said okay now let's solve this other problem Let's all use our collective problems will never move away from it. That's the thing is that in any aspect I mean you put any of those things up on the board and you say like Holmes we figured out how to build an efficient home like super You know efficient with energy and you know everything like max is that it's max capacity like You know everything is so efficient, but even then there's going to be a another way that we can improve on that That's just how we think we we've we just look at one area and one topic and it's just it's we'll never end I didn't like to like Sal was saying the demonizing part too is like You know I watch it and then you it makes me feel bad because you know, we're we're getting ready too We're like getting ready to house shop right now and we're looking for a house with more square footage, right? And I already have like 2,600 square feet and I want like 3,500 square feet So i'm watching this and i'm like i'm not going to feel guilty for wanting more more space just because I necessarily don't Need only that like i'm looking at if even if you did my heat I I want that I want to be able to have a room where maybe I can just go it never gets Hardly any traffic and I want to go in there and I want to meditate Well, see that's what it did for me what it did for me was In my where I were in my new place. Um, I have a kitchen and I have a dining room like a lot of houses do right But when we were setting it up, you know Jessica she's like you know, she goes what do we need a kitchen and a dining room for we're just going to eat at One table i'm like well every house has and she's and she made me realize how fucking ridiculous it was and she said look This is our place. We live here making how you want right and yeah and watching that made me realize like Yeah, if you have a big house, that's great if you use the space for what you want. It's your place Like I love steam room, right? I could build it i'm not going to feel guilty for having steam room because i'm going to use that Shit right to its fullest capacity. Yeah now I will feel guilty if I have this extravagant You know room with fancy couches and shit that nobody ever will goes in or uses plastic that never comes off Yeah, then i'm kind of like okay. Well, that was a waste that that doesn't it's not serving me. I don't have any value I say I like that. I think that's a great way to take that because that's exactly how I fell too Is just like no i'm not gonna i'm not going to get to that point. I'm watching this guy I live in in this house I think the house was like 400 square feet or whatever and had sliding walls So if you had they had thought of everything if you had company over The wall actually slid and then a curtain went across and then there was a bed that folded down from the wall On that on that side. Oh, they had like a little tiny It was like a 600 bed Yo, totally. Yeah, I mean it was I mean they they've made these houses So what I I always see I can't help my mind works backwards as far as like, okay Right away. I see the motive of for the business and the marketing and all that side So when I heard the message right away. I'm like, okay. What are we selling? What do we what do we where are we trying to What are we trying to do ensure shit here come out all these houses? And I remember when I saw these last year like molecule homes Yes, I don't know what they call them like they might call them that and they're I think they're like they build them out of like a Trailer or something small, right? Yeah, and then they put all these like testimonials of these people and of course there's there's always I mean if you Do something crazy like this or you create a cult of people that want to go to this extreme You're going to find a couple of these with great stories, which they did They found a guy that was on wall street making ridiculous six figure money and decided that he was just going to do Get rid of everything and live this minimalist life where he lived his life out of a bag now Which to me that's just it's ridiculous cool I'm all for it if it was for you and you needed that because he he woke up one day and probably went to that Extreme of the spectrum and then was just like, oh my god This is way too bad and then like went swung all the way the other way Which is fine. If that's what you here's the interesting thing Here's the thing I challenge that though if you think that's truly healthy though Yeah, well what I'm saying what I was going to go with that is here's the thing number one minimalist Lifestyle exists because We live in a society where we have already created and we get the luxury to do thank you Like you don't you don't see people in third world countries going I'm going to live a minimal like they're they're not concerned with what an excellent point In fact sleeping all together in one bed. Yeah, in fact only pomp. It's almost pompous of us a little bit And let me tell you some in fact that documentary which is kind of anti stuff, right? Could you get that vibe a little bit? Although the although the hosts of it do a good job of saying look, it's not about consumption consumption is not a problem It's about compulsory Uh consumption it's that it's that having a problem where you're consuming things that you don't really want You buy things you don't need and you don't want that don't bring your value that I understood But as you're watching it you get this kind of vibe of anti You know wealth anti, you know buying things anti having stuff and I was watching that and I'm thinking to myself Holy shit. This is the best commercial ever for capitalism because you if you're in a country That's poor and you're watching that. You know what you're saying yourself. Look at these motherfuckers. They're so rich They're downgrading. They're so rich that they're they're complaining. They have so much stuff That they want to just go back where like get rid of it. Yeah, there's they have so much stuff that it's making them sad Like that's what I'm you know, that's what I see from it But really here's the thing. Here's the wonderful thing about progressing with mankind, especially when it comes to Because look markets are not perfect because humans are not perfect But what markets do very well is they take a bunch of people who are just interested in in in serving themselves Which is human nature, okay? Because that's how humans are and it gets us to work together without actually Consciously trying to work together like if I'm buying something from you We're making a conscious effort to work together and all the people that work to make your product Didn't consciously work together, but they did they organized each other each other to work together If you're making a tennis shoe where there were there's several steps that go into making the rubber of the shoe There's several steps that go into making the laces and putting these things in all these people work together to do that But they did it on accident because they were all serving their own self interest And that's kind of the beauty of how markets work, but here's what's interesting Here's the best part about the minimalist Message in regards to that is if people truly Truly just went out and just did with what they thought brought them value true value versus the whole I'm going to get this because i'm supposed to or i'm going to buy this because I I think I need to or because it's going to fill this empty hole in me If you really went out and did and bought and consumed the things that you really understood and really Fought and felt that really served you we would make markets so much fucking better The world would be better as a result and a lot of the negatives that we see from markets like Like this ridiculous concept, you know production and consumption of things that sometimes you look at and you go Well, that's fucking stupid. Why are we spending so much time, you know making these things and doing these things It would refine itself into something so much better if people truly went out And really knew and really said to themselves Is this bringing me value do I really need these things here that i'm not going to actually use when I could take that Yeah, you're gonna have to de-program like every single person in America that have been programmed since they're a little kid You know to buy whatever this or that that they're marketing so hard at you like well, I did think Think about evaluate what is this going to bring me benefit think about all the shit that we consume Because and and buy and use because of the artificial sense of status Like yeah, like I need to have the status like I'm going to buy all this bullshit to put on my clothes or whatever So that other people You know think I'm better or whatever and it's not but it's not serving me, you know I'm saying I don't really want it It's just because I think it's giving you know, that's just an example of what I'm talking about like if we went out and actually Bought the things that we thought really served us and did the things that really truly served us Then the market would produce more of those things and it would be truly reflective Of what we really want what really does us, you know what does us good And you you can't help but apply this to our industry to the fitness industry Look at imagine if people went out with fitness and said, okay, what's truly serving me? What what am I truly gaining value? Well, that's the magic behind maps, bro That's the magic behind maps is the simplicity of it Is doing the the least amount that you need to do to get the most amount of and it's like the same process Of is getting rid of the shit that is not providing you much in your life and focusing on the thing that does provide you a lot I love the youtube project that went viral From this mindset, which was the the project 3 3 3 right project 333 which is the idea of three months of living off of 33 Items and that includes all your accessories hats underwear socks shoes all stuff like that and Showing people that could do that. Could you do this for three months? And I really like that I like that as an exercise right like so when I see something like this right away, of course my mind goes, okay Here's the business pitch out of this. These guys are going to make millions of dollars Which to me I go like let's find a you know, okay here here's one I bet you didn't do which I did because I was going this way So right away. I evaluate. Okay. These guys probably made 100 something grand Whatever realize they chase this and that that's not where true happiness now they're making millions off their Documentary so now they're going to make millions off this documentary stuff So I decided to start google searching these guys and look deeper into their personal lives Where they're at currently because this documentary was done about a year ago I can't find anything because these kids are very they're very smart the way they did their They even created their own wikipedia, which they're the only ones that have created So if you go to their wikipedia, you can see it's and it's all linking back to their website They own like all the pages of anything related to their name minimalist minimalism They bought some some firm of online firm to go ahead and sort of wipe and clean slate All of their data and their information So that and why I was digging into that because I was really want to see if they're hypocrites Yes, I want to I want to see if these guys now have got millions of dollars and they're living in their 400 square foot house Or they're you know, and I doubt I mean you would be a real idiot to go out and spend money on something that Ridiculous right away after making your first million But you know even to see where they're how they're living their lifestyle now Their argument their whole argument it would be hard to prove that because then they could say What this brings me value see their message that they themselves were were pointing out wasn't necessarily That you live a only necessary life where all I have is you know one toothbrush one cup one It's just I'm only going to consume the things that truly serve me And think about that when you when you go buy something when you go do something ask yourself that like is this really Serving me for example, I'll give you a great example Um scientists have established now in several studies that when people spend money on things They get way less in terms of happiness and self-fulfillment than if they spend thing money on experiences Experiences give people way more. So if I took you know, $2,000 and bought You know the coolest electronics, you know speaker system or whatever in my house Versus taking two grand and going on an awesome hiking trip out in the mountains with a guide and you know learn how to meditate or whatever I'm going to get much more value out of that experience than it will out of the $2,000 on stuff And the reason and the easy way to figure that out for yourself is to do that process before you go buy something Is this really Serving me and here's another example. We we talked about this the other day in an episode I don't even think it has aired yet, but we talked about gyms and the cost of a gym membership Like people people freak out if a gym membership is over like 30 bucks people like, oh my god It's so much money like if you use it and it's really serving you and you're getting fit and healthy God, that's worth way more than than 30 bucks. Think about how much money you waste on bullshit You know every single week, right? But of course, it's your own. It's your own value. That's an excellent point I think it's an excellent point And I wanted to get back to like as far as maps is concerned and like Just just cutting through a lot of the fluff. So, you know like When you're looking at like programs, what what's hype? What what's hyped the most it's it's Look at this person. Look how sexy they are look at like everything is about some person That's like promoting this thing and like who gives a fuck about that person What's it gonna do for me, right? And so like, you know, that's a struggle that we've mentioned a long time ago And we were first kind of starting out with the podcast is that's that's an uphill battle for us because You know, do we do all these hero shots? So do we, you know Make this all about like what we look like and what we're Doing awesome shit that, you know, other people are getting quote-unquote inspired by or do we just give them What works and what, you know, what the meat and potatoes is for them to See immediate progress and result and and you know, like this is how I feel with when I when I buy books And when I and like people ask me if I read and yes, I do read I I definitely Prefer the books that that cut out all the bullshit and all this stuff about here's my bio and here's what I've accomplished so far And I don't give a shit What are you trying to tell me? Yeah, you know and in this this is like it can be applied to like we talk about supplements all the time, right? The average fitness consumer of supplements gotta spend over a hundred dollars a month On stuff that is giving them what like what are they getting from that? Think about that for a second now. Let's say I spend a hundred dollars a month On supplements and we know the vast majority of supplements do shit. They do jack shit for you So, but let's just pretend that they give me I don't know Two extra pounds of muscle a year from spending $1,200 a year or investing 12 so I'm I've invested $1,200 a year to gain Those two pounds of muscle or I could take $1,200 and what else could I put that in that may serve me Better may serve me more rather than falling for that whole compulsory consumption model of buy more supplement buy this buy this new This new drink this new you could go to you could go to someone's seminar like you can go to one Yes, I mean kidding me for $1,200 you can go listen you could hire a good fucking like a really good trainer for 10 workouts Yeah, do those over the course of 10 weeks and you'll get way more benefit It'll serve you way more you'll do more than build two pounds of muscle and you'll have an incredible experience Versus I get this you know fruity, you know chemical laden drink, you know sent to me You know every single month, you know, I'm saying, you know, that's isn't that crazy too Like that's the that's why supplements fall in this sweet spot of like pricing too, right? It's just kind of it's got to be just low enough That people go like, ah, it's worth the try. It's kind of like buying groceries It's like kind of it's 20 to 50 dollars a shot each time I do one of these bottles and it's like Yeah, it's worth the try and if I in of course they tie it to some guy like you said that looks amazing And he's badass and you know says he takes this stuff every single day And that's how he got there when there's a hundred other things disciplines that he's taught himself to get his physique To look like that has nothing to do with that supplement, you know, so here's an interesting study I'd like to do I would like to take a group of people and divide it in half of Beginner to intermediate people so just just regular joes, right and half of them. I'd like to invest $500 a month in the cutting most cutting-edge supplements that we just give them and then they go do their own workout Whatever the other half I'd like to take $500 a month and invest it in professional coaching from the best coaches and personal trainers Who can work with them online or or virtually just kind of show them what to do or education seminars or education seminars Or great exercise programming split them up Take the same investment give them six months and then see the difference in results There's no doubt actually there's no doubt in anybody's mind ladies and gentlemen If you your favorite uh fitness celebrity that's selling you all this bullshit supplements You pose this question to them. You will paint them in a corner They will not be able to answer because they know the answer They know what the answer is and the answer is that the $500 a month Investment in professional coaching or good exercise programming or education will kick won't just it won't even be close It will kick the shit out of the post. It's long lasting. That's what i'm saying It'll blow it the fuck away and so when it comes to I know we're a fitness podcast now So I keep trying to bring it back there to apply there, but if you ask yourself that question Is this serving me? How is this serving me? Is this something that I truly value? You will take whatever money you you have to invest in your fitness wellness health and longevity And it will be spent much much more wisely Well, I think there's a lot to learn with this mentality and that's why I probably struck a core is because like Same thing with exercises like there's there's a specific number of exercises. We know Creates the most benefit right and and to be a minimalist I would I would focus just on mastering like these five Lifts wow, you know what what a great point like are we not minimalist that's what I meant about this is what maps represents It represents it represents like if you were going to do a bare minimum amount of stuff These are the moves We're not saying that people can't build off of this or you can't modify that's we encourage that with people's program In fact, we include modifications Yes But the the idea and the point that we're trying to get across is listen if you do these basic movements three times a week Watch watch what the fuck happens absolutely. Yeah, most of it is Psychologically like we just it's tough. It's tough to kind of keep going through the the process of like well I have these things and it's so simple. It's just You know, I feel like there just needs to be more and I need to like clutter my My program with all this other like fancy moves and I see this instagram person doing this and that and It's a lot like having a shit ton of clothes, you know that you never wear It's just like what's the point, you know, you want to just keep putting all these clothes on top of each other Or are you gonna stick with what? You know, you look awesome what serves you. Yeah saying what serves you best There should be nothing there should be there shouldn't be a single exercise movement or whatever in your workout that does not somehow Serve your fitness or wellness or whatever your goal or target is now if your goal or target is simply to I just want to work out. I don't give a shit if it does anything for me I just like to exercise well, you don't need a program just go into a gym and just start doing random shit But if that's not you and I know that's most most of you are not that person There shouldn't be a single thing in your program that doesn't serve you If you would list your priorities of things or the things that you know are going to serve you most in terms of Fitness and health. It would be two categories of things Actually, it would be a few categories But the top two would be fit would be your how you work out and how you eat And if you broke down how you ate it would be whole natural foods It would be foods that nourished your body. It wouldn't be You know this bar or this powder or this, you know, whatever chemical whatever or I need to have the sweet tasting something So I'm doing this artificially flavored, you know, whatever. I mean again if it truly serves you that's fine But I think if you ask yourself that question most of you will say It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't really do me any good if you approach your fitness and health with this Minimalist and I hate to I hate to label it minimalist minimalist attitude But if you if you approach it with this attitude of is this going to serve me You'll find that the decisions you make and the things that you do for your for your health and wellness Will be the things that will make the biggest changes and how you feel both mentally Physically even spiritually everything from sleep meditation the kind of food that affects your gut microbiome Like all these things that are very very important that serve you You'll find that that's where your money time and energy are going to go And you're going to stop spending time and money and energy and things that simply don't serve you So with that if you like mind pump leave us a five star rating review on itunes If we like you review and we pick it you're going to get a free mind pump t-shirt Also, check us out on instagram at mind pump radio You can find me at mind pump sal Adams at mind pump atom. Justin is at mind pump Justin And mr. Doug eggy is at mind pump dug Good episode right there. I think so. I think that was a good episode. I think we should we should talk about uh Let's talk about uh the super maps bundle map super bundle Maybe we or should we took about just maps anabolic since this this is kind of what I was thinking out Maybe we do a special Uh, we just did the 50 off. So I don't want to do like a sale or anything like that Maybe we or maybe we just push maps anabolic by itself. We don't even say I say I was gonna say because it's okay Let's do that. Let's do that. Yeah, let's do that we going Doug. Yeah, we're okay Yeah, so you're gonna hear us. We actually watched a documentary. It spurred a conversation. Believe it or not We had a topic we want to talk about but it turned into something completely different And we're very happy it did and we talked about Really doing the things that serve you with fitness with life or whatever um, and uh, it led us to really think about workout programs and how Much uh stuff is injected into them that really doesn't serve the individual. It's just a bunch of fluff And maps anabolic Represents, uh, really what you need. It is our most basic foundational program But when you follow it, you'll get tremendous results because you're only doing What's going to get you results? You're not doing anything extra your body is responding to the most effective exercises Fazed in the most effective way. It's the program. 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