 Big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Ms. Jamaica. Yeah, yeah, yeah, walk on with you. Same man, we got special guests in the house today like I'll always say, you know, man, this guy right here, man, when I first started trying to figure it out, man, he was the guy that was around for real, for real. I know I say that a lot, but I remember this guy, man, when I was a kid, man, going all the way back to probably about 10 or 11 years old. That's how long ago I knew this guy, man, and I ain't man, check it, man, Rory Williams, man. Is it you, J's, man? It's you, J's. Man, so, man, what up? Let's get into it, man. Thank you first of all for coming, man, on the show, man. Boss talk 101, man. It's a pleasure, man. We built this platform so that people's story could be told, man. That was the whole game for us, man, making sure that the story don't get, you know, lost in the sauce. I remember I lost my mother. She was 44, this was in 96, and I wish I had something like this so I could go back and just look at some of the visuals just to see her movement. Right. Does that make sense? It could make a whole lot of sense to me, man, for real. I got a partner that got a restaurant up in LA, and the boy, I always tell him that. I say, hey, man, let's get some visuals. I did a commercial for him up in Culver City. He got a place called Janga Derrick's. Shout out Janga Derrick's. And I was like, man, we got to do some visuals, man, because you 62, I was like, you got to make sure that we capture the moment, man, because once it's gone, it's gone, we can't get it back. And if you got little kids, it's even worse. Like I got a daughter, so my wife younger than me, that's what happened, Rory, when you go back in young, you know, and then you think you're getting a young one, but you come to, you say she wants some kids? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about a Rory, first of all, from Marsha, well, Connac, really. Yeah. And just tell us a little bit about growing up in the country, man. Man, I'm a country boy at heart, man. Look at that little fish hunt. I do it all, man. I mean, if it's out there, I do it. Yeah, yeah. You really can't miss me, man, the way I was brought up, man. Yeah, yeah. I think the thing that I can say is being from the country, man, going down 43, man, and going home, I always got to come through Connac to go from Dallas to get down to Smithwood. Exactly. Man, every time I look over there, I was like, man, I remember the days, boy, bring back so many memories, man. He always showed that place to me. Every single time. Every single time. She from Jamaica. That's where I went down at. Yeah, yeah, back in, man, back in, what, 77, man, when we first... That's when he started? 77. That was before I was born. Yeah. 77, I started, man. It was like the original Bwana. Oh, you know I know about it? Bwana. Because that's the one that had the sticks and the spears hot. What inspired that? Because every time I wrote, it made me think of Africa. The painting on the front, like Africa. Well, you know, we had like, juju men, Africa people, you know, how the people came over from over here to Africa to capture people. That's why you saw the Bwana. But people never knew what Bwana mean, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bwana is like, if you hear the Africa people saying Wana. Wana, yeah. You know, they be talking to their masters, they say, Wana. Yeah, yeah. That's the name. It's not Bwana. It's Wana. Wana. And that means boss. Okay, okay. And they were saying, they were talking to their people. Boss, what do you want us to do? Wana, what you want us to do? Wow. And that's how that originated. And so, how did you change that to Bwana? Like, where did that come from? You just started calling it Bwana because it's spelled B-W-A-A-N-A. Oh, it's how it's spelled. And the B is really silent. Okay, gotcha. I never knew that. Guys. I never knew that. That's why you saw the Africa pictures on the wall, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was your daddy who came up with all of that? My dad, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, he's not living now. My dad passed away about two years ago. Two years ago. Man, I remember him too. And you know. That's the legend. Oh yeah, that's the legend. I used to come through that front door of the Bwana. Yeah. You know, Bwana. And I used to come through. I was number 12, really. I wasn't supposed to be in there. I was sneaking in and everything, trying to get in that thing, man. That was a long, long time ago, baby. And I get in there, man, and I ask girls to dance. That was the first place I ever asked some people to dance, man. I got shut down a few times. Because there wasn't that many clubs down there, was there? No, it wasn't. But I just know that was the first one I ever went to in my life, like the other stuff. Well, I went to the Chuckwagon. You remember the Chuckwagon? Yeah, I remember the Chuckwagon. I went to the Chuckwagon. Shout out a little man. Was it a real wagon? No, it was a building, the Chuckwagon. Okay, I'm just checking. I'm not gonna say absolutely. No, no. I went to the Chuckwagon and I used to be down there. And yeah, yeah, that's the first one. And then the Bwana. Oh, so that was before the Bwana, okay. It wasn't before the Bwana, it was about the same time. Was it before the Bwana? It might have been if it wasn't maybe a couple of years, man. A couple of years. I had to ask a little man. I know a little man. Shout out to a little man. He's still down there. Yeah, he's still down there. I see him every night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I could ask him. He gonna know, because he was there. So what, how did you guys basically, I know my uncle told me that my uncle Jim and them would come up and help y'all when y'all first, that ain't us, is it? When y'all first, when y'all first built it, he say he came up and helped a little bit. It was Jim and I think he said RC, my uncles. People came up and helped y'all, right? Yeah, we had people, man. They worked for y'all. Yeah, just come by and stop and help, man. Just wanted to see what it was gonna be about once you got it up, you know? That in the 70s, for you to do that, were there any permanent issues or anything like that or they didn't really mess with you back then? Right till the day we don't have anything. Especially because it's in a country, I would think. But you would think that people knows it, trying to figure out, did anybody ever try to shut you down at that first one? Man, how many times? See what I'm saying? How many times? What were the reasons they gave? In old days it was different. It was crazy. The only reason that they couldn't shut us down because back then a lot of people didn't know about BYOB. Okay. And when you BYOB, they can't shut you down as long as you got a sign saying you're at your own risk. Okay. That kills all your insurance and your ability. That kills everything. Really? But now if you notice in Tyler, everything is BYOB. Every club? A lot of clubs now in Shreveport are going to BYOB. They're getting away from the liquor license and letting them bring their own drinks. Really? It's a lot. Because it opens up different avenues. Everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You even got to close if you don't want to. You stay old 24, you know? Really? Versus that liquor license, you got to get out of that 1.45 to 1.45 to a clock. Everybody got to be gone. Yeah, yeah. It changed up everything, man. And like now, they just really starting to catch on to what my dad was talking about, BYOB. Wow, your pops, man. You know, his division. Man, Chubb, man. And you don't need to leave him back then, you know? Wow. Yeah, he was Chubb, man. He always would be around. But he kind of didn't, Rory did everything. He just kind of let Rory roll with it. Boy, I like that, man. So being not in the country, okay, because I'm not from here, so a lot of things I wasn't used to. Being out there in the country, did you ever have any problems with race? Right to the day. Right to the day. I don't think you had to do that. Right, having that spot, I'm sure a lot of people would be jealous or, you know, cause to see it packed or wanting, you know, you making money and stuff like that, they hating. Yeah, it's the right to the day. Right to the day. It never stopped. It never stopped. Right to the day. I don't think it ever will. Right to the day. I mean, it'll always be a sense of something. Even in the Bible days, it was a sense of something. And I used to say it all the time, man. People just don't know what we are going through to give them somewhere to go. You know what's going on, baby, with us, with these people. We trying to keep this open for y'all to have somewhere to go and then, you know, y'all are going to have one or two, just going to try to, you know, mess it up, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you don't mind, given an example, without calling any names or anything like that, give an example of a situation that you had to face but overcome because you have a lot of people out there who are facing certain situations and feel like. In business? In business and feel like, you know what? I can't even do it. I'm not even going to go, it's not worth it. Or, you know what I mean? You know, I'm the type of dude that is unlimited. You know, I mean, you could stop me from doing this, but I'm gonna know how to do this. I learned how to do more than one thing. My dad always told me, son, learn how to do more than one thing. If you can do two or three things, you're unstoppable. Wow. Because you always got something else to go to. That's right. You know, and I'm always the type of guy going, I'm more for learning. You know, I can watch people do something and I can pick up on it like that, you know? But it's all about putting your hands on it. You can watch somebody do something, but when you're gonna try to do it, it ain't as easy as it looks. You know, until you put your hands on. So you gotta put your hands on pretty much everything it is. I like it. It's everything. I put my hands on Pupwood back in there. Hey, I did it. I know. I just got put some on there, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna stand here like me. Me and you both. I gotta cut on my leg right here. While I'm missing that song, daddy told me don't be messing with it. I had to do it. Yeah, yeah. And I think that builds integrity too, though. Man, that's the word right there. I think my dad was showing me a lot of stuff back then. Exactly, exactly. He even did it. You know, before he got the club. Yeah, before he got the club. He was hauling. That's all. That was the way we made money down there. That was it. That was it. What do you think is the, okay. Let me ask you this. Hey, did you ever have any awe for the woman that tell everybody that something was? I'm sorry. Listen, but did you ever have any yes at that first one? I don't think that was the small one. That's why you moved out of it, wasn't it? Yeah, but I did shows there, man. Did you did? You asked some people there? Who was the first? Oh, do you remember the ones who came there? I did a lot. Who was it? We did some guys from the, The first first one. The very first guy that came there and did the show was, we did Milly Jackson. Really? Milly Jackson. You did Milly Jackson. I remember that name. Yeah, come on, man. Milly Jackson, we did Milly Jackson. And that was in the 70s. We did Bobby Rush. You did Bobby Rush in that one? Yeah, in that one. The first one? The first one. Was it a different location? It was just, it was in the front. It was up by the highway. Yeah. Okay. Y'all took it down. Y'all took it down now, didn't you? Yeah, yeah. But it was up for a long time. Yeah, for a long time, yeah. It just was sitting there. It was all kind of stuff that grew in it because they didn't, didn't knock it down. But we still got the outside wall. You still got the pictures that I thought. That's what I thought. It's still there. Yeah, yeah, he's left it there. Okay, I don't remember. I don't want to see that big one in the back. No, no, we're going to get to that one. I don't want to go there yet. How much smaller was the first one compared to the big one now? You probably could sit the whole building off. Ain't so out of it, sure could. Now, you know, the first one, it probably hold about 300 people, might be. And how much the new one? The one now holds about 1,500 people. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We already trying to figure out how I'm going to get, I'm going to do my first show down there. And I'm going to bring my podcast with me too. And I can't hear nothing in there if I remember them speakers right. He didn't play around that much. You got to have that sound. Yeah, you got to have that sound. He was one. You remember, K-Rock was talking about him on the show. He'd say that he was basically set up two turntables. Say one for him and one for him. Like it was going down that night. Let me ask you something. So in that first location, like when you first would come in there, man, and the lights was set, man, the lights was right, man. How did you guys come up with the whole design and preference in that thing? Well, you used to venture over in Streetport a lot, man. Okay. And I got a lot of ideas from over there in Monroe, Louisiana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I picked up a lot of ideas. How old were you at that time? Cause we were young. Man, I was 17, 18, 19. 17, 18, cause I'm younger than him a little bit. So I'm telling you, by the time I got there, I'm being about 11 or 12. He was 17, 18. I was in that thing, baby. Yeah, Marconito, shout out to Marconito, man. Nito brought me in that thing. Yeah, I was doing that thing for older people, but I was younger. He was younger. But I knew what the older people liked because I was going to the other clubs, checking out what they was doing. So basically what I did was I went to all the clubs, Dallas, Houston, Texacannon, Little Rock. I went everywhere. Check what they done. And got their ideals, you know. Made it your own. Made it your own. And put all of their ideals into one. So when people came from other different places, they felt like they was still home. Oh, awesome. And it was people coming from Streetport. It was people coming from Marsha, of course, Corniac, Linden, Houston, Dallas. Where is the furthest you've ever met someone that I said they drove all the way from here to come here? Check out the one, Mississippi. Stop bling. That's people from the Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh come now, Little Rock, Houston. Little Rock, yeah. And they was kind of fun. Just for the club that night. Everywhere, everywhere. Wow. They came from, if you Google it, it'll tell you a lot of stuff when people came from miles around to this spot, right? How much did you charge? I don't remember. I was too young because I didn't, I don't remember paying. You probably didn't pay. You just snuck in. I wasn't but 12. But I got in that thing. How much did y'all charge in that mission, that first thing? Three. It started out at $3, which that was a lot. $3. That was a lot. That was a lot back in the day. Yeah, that was a lot. And then we graduated to five and then went to eight, then to 10. Yeah, there was so on. So going to the new club, I remember the Bikini contest. You don't remember that? That thing would pop in, man. I mean, them not. No, no, no. When it first popped out for a young nigga, I said, man, man, it's going down, man. He would really, it would be paying for like $250 or $500 and all kinds of stuff for the Bikini contest. It was down. That was all good looking girls? They were bad. I ain't seen no, I ain't seen no. I was young, you know, just to see something like that was amazing. Now at that time, I probably about 17, 18. So, you know, cause that would have been the preference. That's how I scaled to get over to the other one. So, I mean, you always had to vet. Oh, you had, you made, you gave a nigga, you set the bar real high wrong. Oh, yeah, with that one. I came through in a Chevy love. He had a vet and a white truck that the stern wheel was spinning off this stuff. Yeah, I took the stern wheel off that. I'll tell you where. Ah, man. Yeah, this was before anybody was doing this stuff. When nobody was doing that. Nobody could steal it that way. It really was showbo, and everybody knows stealing hell. He was showing out. Well, you know, the Corvette would talk when, when I parked it in the front, you know, and everybody would walk past it, you know, the Corvette like, still back, you're too close to the vehicle. Ah, yeah, we had a good time down there. My dad would stand up out there and he's trying to do that. And that would make the alarm go off. That would do that. And if people were walking into the club, my dad would do something like that to set the alarm off, because step back, you know, the lights be flashing to you, you're too close to the vehicle. You know, you, you, you, you something else cost to be, you really, you're a pioneer. But the thing I look at more than anything, you know, it was a lot of people that came through there. It was a lot of tragedy that came through. That was just the time we was in. My uncle told me stories about a truck wagon, about one, you know, one guy getting shot and both of them ended up at the same hospital. You know, all kind of crazy stuff, but that just was a way of life in the country. So, because other cities would come, get into it with other cities. So it was a lot of, but we made it through. We were right back to next weekend. Yeah, even more. Even more. That is crazy. Like even if somebody got anything, how bad. And also, how did you keep the peace between people who got into it? Sometimes they got into it the next week too. We still came back. Did you always have security? We had security. It didn't matter, the police too. They didn't mind, you know. I don't think, right to the day, right to the day, the police department won't come out there. People don't know that, you know, but right to the day is someone that going on in the station and right to today, they still won't come out to that spot. That's why you have to have your own security. No, all security. They're messing with it. It's got a reputation. It's been consistent. You stayed consistent so many years, man. Yeah, consistent, yeah. So what do you, what do Rory tell this young kid that's about 16, 17, wanna get in the club and business? What kind of, what would you tell him? You gotta stay focused and don't let nobody discourage you on different things, you know. You just gotta stay focused on what it is you want. And if you can do that, it'll happen. You know, you just gotta stay consistent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rory was the type of dude, man. He get to playin' that music right in the room with a love of somebody, rumors, all that. I remember all that stuff. Rory will hail, boy. Rory brought through. I go back to Planet Rock, I remember. Boy, that was when we was the old boy. Yeah, they all go back to Planet Rock, yeah. Say, man, we were killin' back then. Niggas don't realize how far back we went with that thing. When rap first came in the scene, Man just said he had Miller Jackson over there. Stop playin', man, y'all. You gotta realize this thing is serious. So, when you got to that other Bawana, which was UJs, how did you come up with change in the name? And what was that blood out about? So it's the only two names, it's only been UJs and Bawana? I believe so, yeah, that's been the only two names. Okay, cause I know it changed colors many times. Oh, yeah, yeah, every time you go to UJs, cut out. Yeah, every time I'm like. Well, before it was UJs, it was Studio 43. I remember that! I remember Studio 43, y'all. I knew it was something else in between. Studio 43. So, let me ask you this. So, why are UJs? Well, that was my DJ name. So, I said, well, I'm gonna put my name on this one and it's been that for a minute now. That's what they called him as DJ. And in Studio 43 was because? It was on 43, yeah, stop playin', man. Okay, okay, yeah. That's where we was at. Yeah. So, do you have any kids? I have two boys, both of them deceased now. I had my son, I just buried my son here in January. January. Wow, I'm so sorry to hear that, man. My oldest, yeah. Wow. In a car accident, you know. Wow, man. My youngest was out here on, what is it, 635, you know. So, I'm helping out on him on the other state one night, you know, he was changing on flattening the diesel just. Oh, you see. No. How long ago was that? This was about two years ago. So, you went through it. Yeah, you know, and then, man, on top of that, you know, I lost my dad, you know. Yeah. Two years ago, you know. It's like. And don't you ask yourself? And that's so crazy because you'd always tell me that at country roads you had to be careful of them because they're winding. And then he came out here and this happened out here. No, in the country, if a wreck happened, it was really, really bad. That's what I would tell him because they're going fast. And plus it's dark. Those roads are dark. There's no street lights or anything like that. Actually, my son, my oldest son, in January, he was skilled what, two miles from the club. Two miles from the club. Four to three, yeah. Wow. Man, I just want to say, man, I'm sorry for that, man. It never stopped, man. It never stopped. And you kind of get used to it. I've been through the same, a lot of the same. So you get older, people, you know, sometimes God got away to where he has his own plan, you know, we can't get caught up so much in our plan. It's not our plan, it's God's plan. Exactly. You know what I mean? So it would feel, because he's the only one that could allow anything to happen. So we have to be strong enough to understand, you know, and it hurts, man, like crazy. I mean, I lost my dad and my mom early on and it was crazy. It flipped flopped on me. See, you had your father all those years, but I lost my mom when I was young, man. And it really took a toll on the family. Because we didn't have that staple in the family. Right, right, right. It's really like- But y'all had some good times. Oh, without a doubt, man, you know, and it's like now, you know, I don't, I opened my club up, but all at the same time, I kind of, I've never rented it out, but now I'm more like rented out because I'm not really too much into it no more because really I was kind of like doing it for my mom and for my dad, you know, because that was my inspiration, you know. So it's like now, you know, I'm really, you know, my dad got out of it and kind of bagged out of it and just let me, you know, do what I did, you know. So I'm like, I'm kind of like at that point, but after 40-something years in the same spot and every weekend for 43 years, can you, you know. That's a long term. That's why I asked you about having kids because I was wondering if you had any kids that wanted to take over the business. That's the reason why. You know, they was often to it, but one of them was and the other two, you know, wasn't the one out here in Dallas. He was kind of how you're doing this thing. You know, he brought a couple of artists down and we did some stuff with him, you know. And my other one, he's in Shreveport. So, you know, he's a family man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not really, he got one left, one left. So he was all boys, no girls. All boys, no girls. Wow. Wow, man. So let me ask you this, a little Vic, man. What happened to a little Vic, baby? Vic? Man, I taught him all I could teach him, man, in the DJ game. I know what happened to him. Was he around or anything? He's here in Dallas. I ain't seen him in so many years, man. He's out there in, I wanna say, what is that over there? Cedar Hill. Yeah, he stopped DJing after he got here then. Yeah, he got up into the automotive field. Okay, okay. Working on cars and stuff like that. Okay, he changed it up. Yeah, he changed it up. It was a little Vic, man. He was over there. Like I said, he wasn't really, I mean, he seemed like he was having a good time. He was younger than me. And I said, damn, I wish I was a little Vic something. Rory liked a little Vic. A little Vic here up here every week. In that damn booth up there. Oh yeah, he learned. He learned. You know, he caught on. You know, I could take a break and leave him up there. And he would go in. Yeah, you know, so. How did you end up meeting K-Rock? How did you guys end up? Because he'd say you taught him how to keep the DJ booth clean. K-Rock came in, man. It was, I think in the 90s, if I'm not mistaken. I wanna say the 90s? Yeah, that sound about right. In the late 90s, when I ran into K-Rock, I think I ran into K-Rock somewhere over in Longview from that perspective. And I was going into them clubs over there, you know, and I ran into K-Rock. And then I was checking in my DJ. And you know, he was off into the Longview. He was into the scratcher. He said he didn't talk back then. Didn't do no talking, but you know, that's 90% of DJs. If you don't say nothing, you know what I'm saying? You can make the people move, but when you learn how to talk on this thing. Oh man. Yeah, that's what he told us. Man, Rory was saying. Let's get busy. Yeah, you know. Man, Rory was something else. Man, Rory, sprue. Yeah. We used to have a good time. But you, hey, they throw some key sweater on. I hear Rory right now, man. Rory, where am I? When was the last time you DJed? This past weekend, you know, I had a concert with, I had a concert with Carl Simms. Okay. And Jay Hammer. Okay. You know, I had them in my club this past weekend. So that was. I gotta do something with you when they come through there. I can get them on the show if they in the area. Right, right. I gotta do that. When it's just coming weekend, not this weekend, but the next weekend I got TK Soul. I need it. I saw that. That's what I need. I saw that on there. And tell them, hey, man. He needs to come on here on Bonsau 101. Yeah, yeah. Cause we done had, we done had, we had LJ. He live in, where do you live? He's in Monroe now. Monroe, Louisiana. He's in Monroe now. So if I can get him in, tell him I book him up a room and some stuff. Yeah, tell him to come on up here. He'll come now. Yeah, yeah. Tell him down here, dude. Yeah, tell him, tell him we'd already had, who we had, Sir Charles and LJ. So we trying to make sure we hit that blue. We in the south. So I don't just do rappers. Let me ask some, I said rappers. You brought some rappers down there back in the days, man. I'm talking about in the nineties. Did you bring the biggest one you brought down there? Well, to you, cause that'll only be opinion. Luke, who would you bring down there? Luke, been there. You brought Luke. Trina, been there. Bro, Trina. I did, I don't know if you remember Ushay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ushay. I did song and neck work. Yeah. We had them guys down there back then. Yeah. We did all that, man. Yeah, yeah. And who's the biggest rapper today that you've heard? I think Luke, man. That's my opinion. Like the newer rapper. He ain't really bad, did you remember? Probably, you know how they did Boosie, how they did Webby, how they did 2 Chainz. Oh. You did 2 Chainz? I did D'Rof. D'Rof was just here last night. He was just here. They didn't even know who D'Rof was when I brought him down there. He was just here. And, you know. He did that walk, that walking boy. Yeah, that walk. He didn't even got hot yet. That song had him got hot. When you brought him down there. Wow, you see what I mean? Rory gonna get him through there. And I saw a picture on Facebook. You brought Mode 3 down there. Yeah, Mode 3, you've been down there two or three times. You brought Mode 3 to the point? Yeah, two or three times, yeah. That's crazy, man. And then look, look at the span of what I just said. All the way from Planet Rock and dealing with Luke when he first came out, with all them songs that he rapped, where he had to get the parental discretion on the CD. You brought him and you still dealt with Mode 3. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. That is, that's a long way for people, man. Yeah. What do people think when they come down there? Cause that's all the way in the country. In the country. In the middle of nowhere, like. It's like, when people come down, they be like, oh man, I ain't going to this little club. It's a country hole in a while. Right. But when you walk up in there, it's like, man, we in the city. See, I've never been in. I've always just seen it from outside. I'm gonna take you. Where the TKT's all coming? This, 22nd. We'll go to that. So we won't book any apartments. But see, I'm doing him on the outside. You know, I got a park on the outside that I built. In the back? On the outside, on the side. You know, I got a big park, big stage, concession stand, all that, I tell you. We coming. Wow, okay. We coming. You got a VIP section. You know, I don't think I'm the thing. Now VIP, now I got a hold of them. I want to be in the VIP section. What's the club? You took me to the down there along some hole in the wall. What? What was that? I ain't never took you to no such thing. What's the line? I don't know. Like done, she's like, like done, she's like, you know, too joint. No, what was it called? A long time ago, it was a hole in the wall. Is it in Linden? I don't remember the hole in the wall. You got... Yeah, you did. Oh, that was in Lodeye. Long time ago. What's it called? Yeah. Oh, man, man, man, man. It was in Lodeye, Texas. It was down there past Milton. It was way in the woods. It was way in the woods. You never went to that. It was a hole in the wall. It was in Lodeye. It's small. Yeah, but you had a good time, didn't you? It was cool. They hated on you a little bit. That's what they posed to do in the country. So do you think that, so you think it is doable for a young man a day to get back in that game and be successful with the way the music changed? And the pandemic. It's crazy. It's not the same. It's clubbing. It's crazy right now, man. It's really all about the trail rise right now. Right, right, right. It's all about, I've really never seen so many black people migrate to outdoor activities for as being one to ride on four wheelers and getting mud in a hurry. We've never seen that before. I've never seen it, man. So that's what made me put something on the outside for them to do it. For them to be able to have a good time. Why you on that business? I'm not trail rise now. So now that all the trail riders now, when it gets cold, and what is that, September, October, November, now they come into me because I got the biggest thing for the inside. So all the trail riders can't do anything on the outside cause it's cold now. I thought they still do it on the outside even during the cold. No, they might do maybe one or two bonfires just before it gets too cold. So, but now I got to set up to where you can come inside and step on the outside and have a big bonfire and come back on the inside. So I'm thinking now, trail riders is where is that? So now I got to think of something to do that the trail riders can't do. So open up a venue where you got them on outside, inside, swimming pool. And you have a lot of land. That's a lot of land right now. Yeah, pretty much versatile, you know. How much, how much, how much land? I got 27 acres out there. Wow. Man. So to do, you know, and now I'm, I'm now in the process of setting it up. You can hold the whole trail ride right there on 27 November. You didn't know how a Jay Prince will rap a lot of them boys come through? No. Yeah, a squad face. Not yet. No, not yet. Well, they didn't bite gave it up. We missed them. Out of Houston. Out of Houston was Jay. The ghetto boys. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Squad face is a ghetto boy. But he came with the, he came with them though. He wasn't. So it was just Willie D. Willie D. And Bushwick Mill. That was, those was the two that came and Michael Watts. Michael Watts come through there. Come down there and do this couple of sets on my shoulder down there. Man. So what did Mode 3 do when he was down there? What, what did he, did he perform in the, in the block? Yeah, I mean, this is that video. We got videos. Y'all got videos up. I'm going to pull it up. Yeah. So man, this is the Mode 3 cool cat, he was a cool guy, man. Yeah, yeah. I heard that. So a few people done told me that. So it can't be wrong man. They saying he was a good dude man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was down there a dude man. I like him. I like him. He liked him. He man, Bousy. Bousy. Yeah, yeah. Well, you never had Yellow Beesie down there. Yellow Beesie? No, not yet. Not yet. It ain't too late. He's still active. Yeah, not yet. We'll get him down there. I'm connected. I can get him down there. Y'all you gotta do it. I make a phone call, we're having down there jamming out. We can make it happen, man. What, okay, so the thing I could say about you, you had the bar right there when you come in the dough right there in UJs, is it still there? It's still there, same place. Same setup. And then you walk that walk down that out, you gotta walk a little stretch to get down in the floor. Yeah, come to red carpet. You got to walk down through there. You walk through there many days across the floor, I know your exact movements, then down the aisle every now and then. So is it a one way in, one way out, or you're a back door? It's three doors. Three doors, it's a big building. Okay, no, because people would like to know, because you know, people always want to know. You know, people are like, man, I'm not going down into that one way in, one way out. So nobody want to do that. And they even told the police department that, and they came down. They came to check it. They heard you had one way in, one way out, I'm like, man, I got three doors, actually I got four doors. I got a door there, a door there, a door there, and then I got a big back door, you know. That's crazy. Oh, so that's what they come down there for. Yeah, so, you know, so then they come, you know, and then you say, then after he started, they say, man, you know what, UJ, I'm not going to bother you no more. And they haven't been back since. Since. And that's been five, six years ago. They haven't been back down there since. But as long as it's been there, you'd think that they would have already knew. Right. But, you know, they just had to come see for themselves, you know. Wow, that's crazy. So, you say TK So, coming, I'm going, we going to be at that. I haven't been there in years. I've never had a good life. I haven't been there in 20 years, man. I've been married almost 20 years. Are you familiar with the lady name Lady Coco? Lady Coco. She's got a radio station. Oh, radio station. Is it down in Shrevewater? She's in, I think she's in Dallas. Lady Coco. You did her show? No, she came down, she came down this past weekend. You know, I see her doing a lot of stuff on Facebook. Facebook. I might need to lock in with her. I check in, we're locked. Oh, she's pulling up now. She knows all the blues people. Do she? She go to all the shows. Lady Coco, yeah, pull up, because when they come to town, I can ride with her and collide with her and strive with her. What's her last name? Oh, not the name. All I know is Lady Coco. Because I see a whole bunch of, yeah, on Instagram. Oh, Instagram. Yeah, they probably all want to be Lady Coco. You know what I'm talking about. But she's probably a friend of yours on Facebook, isn't she? Yeah. So I got to go look on there. So how did you like transitioning from the CDs and that cassette era? Well, I'm going to say from the 8th track to the cassette, to the CDs, all the way back up to the stream. And how did you transfer and are you still doing records? I'm still doing the records. I used to spend in the thumb drives, man. You know, I didn't get over to the Serato, man. OK, so it took you a minute to change over. But, you know, I mean, this DJ made easy now. You know, man, I had the technology that they had back then. Now that back then, if I had had it, oh man, I would never even came to the club. Did you have the back? OK, back in the days, you used to be on the radio station in Shreveport a lot. Yeah, KMJJ. KMJJ. 102.1. We even did some stuff here with 104, with Michael and Andy. Did you? We used to do some live sets. Live sets? Yeah, mix it. You remember back in the day, they used to have that music at night with, what, H.J., I'm out at night. That'd be before I go to the Bwana. We could hear it a little bit. We couldn't really just get it in the country. You get it in the right spot. You could hear Dallas bumping up. I said, I'm going to go to the Bwana. Yeah! Exactly, exactly. So when you come over that hill, boy, all them cars were there. Boy, that was it for me, man. I knew it. I'm like, man, I'm late. I should have got here earlier, man. You got to stand that long line. Boy, it was always Pac-Man. What made you different is the success rate you had for consistently doing that, man. That's what made you different to me. I'm looking back at all that stretch, man. Yeah, man. Just staying consistent, man. Just giving the people what they want and going places and learning new ideas. Learning new ideas. Just don't stay locked on one thing because that's eventually going to fade out. You got to change. You got to change. You got to change, man. So how long are you going to be doing this for, man? Because you know you're going to have to, at some point, relax. And you could say the same thing to me, but... Right now, man, I don't feel like I'm 25, man. Wow. I really do, and the health issue is not going to... Thank God for that. But for people like you who always like to be on the go, when they slow down, it's never usually good. It's not good. Yeah. Just like my grandmother's say, son, she wasn't going to get a job. Go get a job. She's like to do barbecue and have parties and sell, listen, sell a little girl on the side. You know, she wasn't going to get a job. But she always taught me, son, whatever you do, just do what the clouds do. I think it was another clue. You guys are always moving. Always moving. Keep moving. That's what she would always tell me. Just do what the clouds do. What they doing? They keep moving. They never stop. I've never heard that one before. Me neither, but I want to remember it. I'm going to use that one. Just keep moving. Keep moving. So that's about 30-minute drive down the street from where Rory is. Exactly. 30 minutes. You go down there. It used to drive. Did you ever do anything? What was that boy down there in Marcia named, the one I always rock with, with the CD shop? Chokes. Chokes. Chokes, still there. I just left Choke before I stopped here and dropped them off some concert tickets. Really? So Chokes, still over there. I'm going to stop by there, too. How much is it for your tickets nowadays? There are 25 pre-sale and 30 at the gate. So we'll be there, though. We coming. And you say you don't have VIP, right? No, because it's bringing lawn chairs, and we're on the outside. We're on the outside on this one. But if it rain, we go on the inside. Okay. Ain't nothing can stop that. No, it don't stop. Ain't no stopping it. No. Yeah. So what I... You go ahead. Don't go ahead. Okay, what do you think that... So are you still in them vets? Yeah, I have two Corvettes, man. You liked them vets. I love them, man. I wouldn't trade for them. I have been without a vet, except for when you had that little truck at first. Well, I had the Z28 and a 280Z. It's always been a two-seater. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But you... And it's a white. It's white. That boy love them white vets. Did you open it in a show? We used to do a lot of Corvette shows and truck shows, you know, with the convertible, with the dump truck bed, and do all the spins and stuff. Yeah, I did a lot of shows. Man, love them vets, man. You have any championship trophies for it? It was always some people that was living it over. Oh, yeah. I was cool with that, too, though, you know, but I was, you know, we did our thing. I don't know if you remember this... In his charge, McDonald? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he used to be in the Z28 club we had back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember you had one. I remember Tinker had one, too. Yeah, Tinker had one. They would burn on. Yeah, Tinker. That was my guy. You know, all of us was down there. Yeah. I was a Cadillac, man. You see the escalator out there. All I do is Cadillac. Back then, that's all I was going to do even then. The Cadillac, I had the Babylac. Yeah. 89 had the 87 and 89. Yeah, yeah, I'll never forget it. I wasn't even, you know, and I didn't even know nothing about not buying it new. I just was a hood. You know what I'm saying? I had done chief on it the other day. He was like, man, Cory Clark told me how to buy a bit, you know, bit lids and all that. I didn't know how to do that stuff. You know, we have to go through an educational process in order to understand how to even purchase the vehicle and how to deal with it. People don't have a lot. They don't teach you how to stuff in school? No, they don't. No, they don't. So I wish they did because they can really screw you over when you go into those car lots. Yeah. And you don't read those fine prints and ask the right questions because they don't ever divulge too much information. Just tell you what they need for you. Right, that's about it. That's about it. So do you think that, you know, when I get my stuff together, I'm going to bring me somebody down there. I didn't come up on some relationship building. Now I'm going to have to call you. I might need to get me. I want to have a good time. I want to come back and reminisce one more time. You know what I'm saying? Because I can't get in when we go down to your TKs. I can't get in. But yeah, yeah, but you're going to let me in there. We got you in there. Man, I sure want to get in there. Boy, I ain't been in there. You know, it's been over 20 years, man. But I still had love for the process because that's what made me, you know, coming up. That's what we had on the weekend. I hopped wood all weekend. I knew when I get my little 130 or 180 dollars, I'm going to the Buona. But you had to still have the door open for people who need to use the restroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, she stush. She uppity, man. So she got to get in there. They have a porta party for you. I go inside. They have a porta party for you. You still do the fly. Last time I seen y'all selling clothes out my truck, man. An old Rory came here. He put the fly right there on the honey stop. You know the honey stop? I remember seeing you there. I was like, man, me and Rory go so far back. It's crazy. I didn't even have this in mind. I had the store. I was still on the side of the road because I'm humble. That keeps me humble. But I still, I was like, dang, you just, when I see you, it brings back so many memories, man. And when I come down, I'm going to be honest. When is it 29? How long is that? 22nd. 22nd. Okay. Next week. Next week. So yeah, we're going to do something else with you too. But I mean, I don't know how we're going to do it. I might bring my camera man with me because I ain't going to have you coming back out here. You know, you be a busy man down there. So I just, I'll come down there and do it. I'll bring my camera guys with me. We'll make it happen like that. Man, I just thank you so much for all the inspiration, all the business stuff that I've seen in you. I didn't have to get it. Me and you did a lot of stuff together and I didn't have to get it really pretty much from you telling me, I got it more from watching you. Right, right. You know what I mean? Because I didn't know business. My dad, he all would. That's how, that's how I ended up doing something like this because he had his own crew. He had his own people. He paid his people at Friday. You know, you know how I went to get paid on Friday. What was y'all hauling? What was y'all hauling to when y'all hauling that timber? Y'all ever cut out of Scottsfield? Mmm, we was had, you know, they had a yard in Curnag. Come on. They had a yard. Who was the name of it? Nah, that I couldn't remember. You know, you had Weaver down there in Smithland. Yeah. Remember Weaver? Yeah. But I don't remember them. Then you had one main hitter up there in Judea too. Yeah. It was the main yard up there. But y'all only had the pool in Curnag. Did y'all have a loader on that thing? Or you was the loader? We was the loader starting off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were happy to get out the woods. But when I come up here, because I'm an engineer by trade too, I work for a company. When I came up here and they told me I only had to go into an attic. I was so happy. They didn't even know what I had been through. They didn't know. I'm like, that's all they want you to do? I was like, this here is going to be, this is like robbing somebody. This is gunpoint, you know what I'm saying? So Rory, what top three artists of all time, man? You got to give them to me. Top three artists of all time. Your life, any genre. Top three artists right now? Your top three artists, how you feel? Of all time. Of all times, man. Rick James. Rick James? That's what you're going to say, cold blooded. Rick James. Yeah, they cold blooded. Of all times, Funkadelics. Funkadelics, yeah. See, y'all know nothing about this. I know about Funkadelics. Funkadelics. Go on, Rory. What's yours? The Barcaze or Cameo? Which one is it? That sparkle's got you over there thinking about it. It was it today? Barcaze. Barcaze. Barcaze had a lot more hits, man. I see where you had with it, man. God, you took me there, man. Your top three different. That nigga top three different. K.L. was here, you know, K.L. from Beast by the Pound. He was just here, K.L.C. And Hills was like that. Like he did Houdini. Yeah, that nigga went Houdini. Oh, you dropped all the way back. But he went to come to the music, you know, that sound. He was into it like that, man. So do you think that, you know... See, I came up playing Bloodstone. Yeah, yeah, boo. K.L.C. connection and all of them, you know, different artists, man. Did you ever think... Was it another club in contact anytime when you was doing it? A little hole in the wall, you know. That's what I thought it was. Maybe about 20 people. Sue's Corner. Boom! I knew I was it. Sue's Corner, you know. It was about 15 people. I remember that. You packed up it there, you know. It wasn't like yours. It was a house, you know. It was a house. I went there one or two times. It was a room in a house. It was a room in a house. Oh, Jew joint. See, I drew... Darn chief, I ended up in a few Jew joints. Yeah. So the next time, anytime you're in Dallas, you got to stop by in Hollis. If you got a new project or something. We building up subscribers, followers. Everybody, like I said, we having everybody through here. So it's going to be easy. They're going to keep coming and we're going to keep growing. And when you need something, you got my number on speed down. You tell me, shout it out. It's going to happen. I ain't know nothing. Just it's going to be shouted out, man. I can't wait to get down there to that Jew joint. That's what they call it. The Hills ain't no Jew joint. He got a real club. How many square inches is that thing? Square feet. It's a whole lot of many people. Yeah, it's big now. It's big. It's real big, like that flow big. It's big. I've never seen it from now. It's going back in the woods. What you have to see is it was a skating rink. See, we had the Boana. And the skating rink. I remember that. We had them both going at the same time. We built them at the same time. The club was going and the skating rink was going. Right. So why did you move it into this? The reason why I moved from this building to the bigger building is because skating played out in like 93. 93, 94. People stopped skating. They stopped skating. That's why they say, okay, we're going to shut this one down and put everything down there. I used to be mad. I said, boy, I didn't put them spears on that building. That was one of my big pet peas. I said, they should have put all of the African folks and everything on that damn new building down there. See, the guy that did that, you know, he had died. That's why, yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone couldn't really just get what we wanted. And then all the drawing that's on the buildings now is I did it. Yeah, yeah. And I've learned that by sitting out there and watching him from the old building, how he was paying in the morning and all at the same time. I'm watching too, you know what I'm saying? I'm learning how to do it. How to do it. So, you know, and then he would come in, like we draw the picture in him. We would clean it up, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As helpers, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now I know how to, you know, draw it now. So I do my own drawing and all of that now. Amazing, man. Just definitely, simply amazing. I've never seen, you know, nothing, because you never would expect nothing. Nothing else down there was like this. I can imagine. Nothing else. Nowhere, nowhere. You're even in Dallas. Yeah, exactly. It was nothing like this. And I see why it was so successful. So the rappers that you had down there, that was cause the phase after the scavenger, every rap became predominant. Right, right. And so you had to get, what do you think about that rap phase when it came in? I know you just named your top three. It didn't have nothing to do with rap. Rapping, rapping, man. I heard the game really changed in when, what's some cat's name? Not the ghetto boys. Boys in the hood, what's the guy's name? Ice Cube. Yeah, it was Ice Cube, but what's the guy's name? Oh, he's thinking about, what's that movie? Oh, The Hughes Brothers. No. No, the movie. Crompton, is that? Oh, you're talking about the boys that used to sing F the Police? Straight out of Crompton. You're talking about Crompton. Yeah, you're talking about NWA. NWA. NWA. I knew that he was talking about. When that came out, man, it changed everything for me, because I really didn't like playing music with a lot of profanity. Yeah. John and women and this and that and that. Yeah. So, you know, I kind of kept it clean, and then when NWA came out with that type of rap, the whole game changed. Everything started changing, man. People, the mentality of people started, the younger people started changing, because they was relating to what was going on that was happening, but it really wasn't happening. You know, then the videos, before even they started showing music videos, I was doing it, you know? Yeah. And the music videos changed up a lot of stuff. You know, it made people see stuff that was happening, but actually in reality, it was happening, but it wasn't happening. You know, you're making people think that you're living big time, got the cars, with the wheels, and the money and all of that, but that's not how it is. That's not how it is. They're making money. You know, you're seeing that, but that's not, when they leave there, they go to something different. Exactly. It's just a video. In your mind, you're thinking that they're living like that, so now you're trying to live like that. You think that they're living like that. Yeah. And now you know, you putting yourself in jeopardy, trying to live like them and it's not, you know. Yeah. You're stretching yourself then and it's going to get complicated very fast, right? Yeah. You know, it's not like that. Yeah. People try to live that illusion. People don't realize that all of these videos and music stuff like that is just an illusion. Exactly. Just to entertain, but you know. We had, we had DJs on here before, but nobody like him because this DJ owned his build, owned his whole bit situation. Yeah. A lot of these guys look for work and he didn't ever really have to do that. Did you have a DJ for other clubs? I went to a lot of different clubs, you know, through the week. I worked up here in Dallas. We did some stuff at Pizazz. You did? Studio 67. Okay. Beminis. Yeah. Cap mollies, fat cellies, stars. They bought and put that work in. You know, you know, K-104, we were doing it live from there from the club and it's. Like it was nothing. Tom Jonner, way back when. You know everybody, you know, I didn't did it. I didn't did it. And met them all. And met them all. You know what I'm saying? And who would have thought a cat out of Cunag, Texas would make something like that happen? Did you ever see that coming? No, I never saw it. I never saw it. Which you traveling everywhere and doing all that and getting all this exposure, have you ever thought about moving from out of there and moving up to Dallas? Hell no. Dallas is okay for me, but I just didn't ever like all the, you know, I'm a culture boy. I like to silence, you know, I'm way out, you know, I ain't far enough up in the woods. I can't get far enough up in there, you know, so it's like, you know, when I come to Dallas, I don't even cut my mouth off. I'm not going to be here that long. I'm not going to be here that long, you know. See, that's the part about a country. I like, you know out there and you hear the crickets, you hear the bugs, you hear this, everything, the only thing I hate is snakes and all them other stuff. That'd be out there. You can handle the snakes once you get used to them. I wouldn't change it for nothing in the world. I wouldn't change it for nothing. You still got that white truck. Yeah. You know, you didn't get rid of none of it. That's them landmarks, man. Still got the white Corvette. White Corvette. You ain't fit. White Corvette. White Corvette. You ain't fit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The thing I can say about you, I can say it again, you are very much an inspiration in our life, man. And I wanted to I wanted to interview you because I couldn't, I couldn't see interviewing all these other DJs and everybody. I kept interviewing. I interviewed the Frost and everybody running the game out here in Dallas. And I was like, man, I got to get my boy Rory. Yeah, I call you. He came. Just like I say, man, I'm calling Rory. He got to do the show because I mean, we've been blessing. Like I said, I'm coming to see you with the camera. So be looking for that. Be on the lookout. Don't be down in Arkansas working because you, you be doing building construction and everything else, man. What could you give us something that your dad instilled in you that really sticks out that took you so far, man? Man, my dad, the building that I'm doing now that construction type that I'm learning to do more than one thing, like I was saying earlier. He showed you that. That sticks out the most. Wow, man. I don't think that it's it's nothing that I couldn't do. You know, I've done this photography. Yeah. I learned it all. You learned it. I learned it all. I pretty much have learned it all. Man, and that's what quick learning, you know, see you do it and I can do it. Wow. Let me ask you this because I know and I hearing your testimony about losing your kids. I know that there are people out here because we met a lady recently. Who lost her son to gun violence and stuff like that and having a hard time dealing with things. She's like, she's coming out because of she has a younger one. Right. But she has other friends who have lost young ones and can't move on. Right. What can you say to a person who lost their kids and, you know, stuck in their house, don't want to come out because they can't deal with life without them? I see you moving on. I see you, you know, dealing with life, staying busy. How can you do that? How can you do that? How can you advise them to do? You know, life goes on. I mean, don't stop right there. You know, as long as the Lord lets you open your eyes in the morning, you got to keep moving. You know, I keep going back to them class again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mom's with grandma. You know, it's hard, you know, but I've lost I've lost two sons in the last three years. Wow. Your dad. Two sons, my dad, my grandmother, my uncle and two anies. Wow. All in three years. You know, I lost my son and then when we got back home from the film, they found my uncle dead in the house. Wow. So that was all in the same right there. Same time. He's right by the club, you know, right beside the club. Right beside the club. You know, so it's hard. You know, it's me. I'm more like head up, chest out. Yeah. Keep smiling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to, I don't want to not talk about something, man. And I, like I said earlier, I just, for you to go through that, it pretty much is something that God is trying to get the glory out of is for you to hand off to somebody. So that was a good question. Yeah. Yeah. And I've always told people because I have a cousin that he'll come on Facebook and he'll post a picture of himself smiling. And I always tell him, I said keep smiling because some days it'll be a, not such a bright smile and some days it'll be a bigger smile. And I'm like, where's the bright smile? And he'll, you know, but I'm like, it's contagious because people seeing that, it makes them smile and feel good about themselves and stuff like that. Exactly. Exactly. So you was going, you was going neck and neck back in the days with the Imperial Club, nigga. Don't try to act like that. Yeah. Y'all was going at it. Me and old super job man. Y'all was going at it, man. I remember that face. They was doing our thing, you know, and you know, they was doing theirs and we was doing ours, but we had a different head out there, you know. Okay. I was more like getting you that city style stuff when you walked up in there when they was more like down home blue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Until they switched over to DJs, you know, even K-Rock was out there. Yeah. K-Rock. K-Rock was down there with me. You. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's just stuff. Wild thing. I remember all that stuff man. Wild land, pink panther. Yeah. They were going down there by my house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I could come up the street and I said, we got the, they're going to be at that Bawanna. Oh yeah. They're passing everything up. Dallas passing up every long view. They coming straight to the, straight to Bawanna. Yeah. Niggas out of Texas County they coming straight to Bawanna. Yeah. Pittsburgh, all that. They coming. I think right now to the day, that here in this city, you would pack it out. They will pack it out. They will pack it out. Yeah, man. They really would. They really would. They really would. I gotta do it, say the word. I got these mics now. They in trouble and they've been listening. Oh, and we do, we do sponsors. We do do sponsors. So every time whenever you're having a show and stuff like that, if you wanted us to sponsor your show or you want to sponsor this show, you can go ahead and send us an email or, you know, text and say, hey, can you shout out we'll do it. Because they've been coming through here, man. And there's a lot of East Texas people that do follow the show as well. Yeah, yeah. I bring them up. If you look, DJ Jews, all of them been on here. I bring everybody up, man, because I'm from down there. So it's like, it don't make sense to me not to bridge that gap. So I'm like that bridge. I'm trying to, I'm like you was doing it back in the days. Not on that level now, but I'm bringing the people back together. You know what I'm saying? Me and Jews, me and Jews, we do some stuff together. I'm sorry it was on, on false talk. They're going to mess it up. You don't even know. But I guess I'm an older cat. So I can reach out to certain ones. I feel good about, man. I think you guys are doing a tremendous job down there for y'all to keep going like you've been going all these years. It's people like you that that's a reason why young people still in the community. Because a lot of time they're a lot of moved away. You've seen them grow up and go. Yeah, exactly. I can't wait. I'm going to be honest with you. I can't wait to 24. I don't think about nothing no more. I just pretty much say it and we show up. You know what I'm saying? I can't wait, man, because I want to come down, man, and check it out. Sir Charles ever come down there before? Sir Charles been there a couple times. I got to tell him because me and him we frequent. We text. I did them all, man. Sir Charles, Omar Cunningham. Just did you. You never do male waiters, did you? Yeah, I did. I got a picture of male waiters that we drew out and the guy cut it in the guy's picture of him and his wife. That's nice. So what's the biggest show that got the most crowd like packed out the house? He didn't do that a lot of times. The biggest crowd the biggest crowd that you've ever had was Reggie P. Who is Reggie P? Reggie P. Reggie P. Sing that song. Why me? Why me? Reggie P and Big Rob. Big Rob packed it out too? Yeah. For it's on that Southern Soul. Southern Soul, Tim. So you seen it go from blue to Southern Soul? Yeah. Yeah. So you think I'm doing the right thing putting all the Southern Soul people on the platform like I'm doing? You can't lose. Southern Soul is where it's at now. I've been doing Southern Soul for years. Years now. Trying to get them people to catch on to what was happening. So it's like me and one of my partners out of Shreveport we've done it so long until now they've really just not catching on to what we was trying to get them to see long time ago. Long time ago buddy. With the Southern Soul and people didn't even know TK Soul. When I brought I did TK Soul about three or four times in my club. Nobody never knew who he was. Yeah. Yeah. The thing I can say man is the way you how do you contact these people? Man. How do you get to them? Knowing people. I got a guy that promotes in California and he's got the hook up on all. So basically even though he in California you call him and he's going to make it happen. He called him the Chilling Circuit. Okay. Once you get locked in with the Chilling Circuit you're in now. What's that? That was just a circle of trust where they all talk. Yeah. It's the Chilling Circuit is a radio station where all your blues artists go to get recognized. If you pull it up you know if you pull it up you'll be locked in with everything that's going on in Southern Soul. Wow. Chilling Circuit. Chilling. Chilling. Chilling. Chilling. Chilling. That's the heart of Southern Soul. You ain't had you know you got that turkey leg that turkey leg place right up from the house. Yeah. You tried them out? Yeah they good. They doing pretty good. Laff it tap it they good. They good. You know they started out with a video arcade and they were paying out too much wealth for them so they and then they started selling little pieces and then it went from there. When I come home I'm going to get me one. I should be down there I'm thinking of coming this weekend. I just going to come through. I ain't going to stop and I guess I'm going to get my turkey leg. It's right across the apartment. Exactly. My son told me you know he's still in Marshall. My son by Karen. Okay. Yeah yeah yeah he's still in Marshall so he be always going home and coming back he let me know what's going on I don't know what's going on. Yeah I guess it changes man. Yeah it changes frequent. Yeah I guess it changes man. Yeah it changes frequent man. Really. We appreciate you for coming on the show I'm going to be coming down there like I said a few times. Yeah. When you tell me the next person that's coming like I said when I come this time it's too early for me to do what I'm trying to do right. But the next time So are we going two weekends in a row? No I don't know when the next time you have a guest. Okay. My next guest is going to be zero. You familiar with zero? Zero from you? I got zero I got zero I got zero in concentrate. Zero will be there. That's why your your genres from you do every all music. Oh lover man you can't shout out to Rory to do all the damn music man and all the musicians and been hustling everyday man that's why I'm for to hang with them real tough so I can get these niggas straight up here on the platform when they get through with them come on with it. And if you didn't know we don't just do musicians we do mental health anything that's why I always ask you know how can you help someone else or to help others who are listening that might not have the courage to get up or and speak to someone and ask somebody you know for help. Yeah Rory hey man we appreciate you for all that hard work man Keith Swett you old Rory a nigga put me in there man Rory I had the little slow dance going when we were swinging the leg see these niggas don't remember that you had to swing your leg these niggas now they don't even slow dance no more not these rappers but them young back in the day Jodec and Casey Jodec came down there yeah I did them nobody even know who they were see what I'm saying he keep going man they never heard of them and they come through there they come through there and did four songs at my spot and they left there and went to Chicago to the Apollo okay when they did Apollo that's when they blew up nobody even know who they were never knew who they were well that's crazy never knew who they were he could say that's why I got him on here he could sit here and do that all day and I had him on there too yeah never knew man I love this man like I said thank you so much for coming on the show man we love you and we gonna be at UJ's man we gonna be at on the 22nd and if y'all around man if y'all down in the country hey DJ Juice man let me know man pull up nigga you know what I'm talking about man I'll let you boy man it's a unique hustle boss talk 101 and we out