 Esta semana en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas, reportes desde la zona de guerra, la reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en iTunes 24 News. La guerra en Gaza es intensa y viene a un costo grave, con otro 9 soldados israelíos muestran en un ambush en el corazón de Sejaía, en uno de los acuerdos más muestros en la operación de la tierra. Seven soldados fueron de la Brigada Gholani y dos de la unidad de los Últimos 669, incluyendo dos comandos señores. Separadamente, en el norte de Gaza, un miembro de la corrupción de combate de la guerra fue muerto en el norte de los muestros, la idea de su muerte, desde la incertidumbre de la retaliación, comenzó a 115. Sin embargo, los sonidos de los muestros sonidos en partes de Israel en el norte de hace un tiempo, incluyendo Rocha Nekra. Y en el sur, los roquitos fueron enviados de Gaza a varias comunidades israelías, incluyendo en Kisufin y Neroz, el día 68 de la guerra, más de 9 semanas, desde el Hamas, Tera, Anslaut, en el norte de Israel, en el que más de 1.200 personas fueron muestradas. 135 hostigios aún siendo capturados por el grupo de terror, siguiendo la confirmación de que el cuerpo de dos hostigios ha sido recuperado. Y en otro desarrollo de este día, el co-ordinador humanitario en las tierras palestinianas dice que el sistema de salud en el Gaza ha colapsado. Así que ahora, para el más reciente en el grado, vamos a pasar a nuestro corresponde Peer Kloshengler en el norte de Israel y a Peer, un desplazamiento devastante para Israel, 9 soldados israelíos muestrados en ese ambush. ¿Qué es el más reciente en el grado? ¿Qué podemos decirle desde el grado del Gaza? Hay todavía 3 puntos focales de la batalla en el grado del Gaza. Y estos son los mismos puntos focales desde el comienzo de la renuncia de la defensa del grado después de ponerse en la batalla para el reto de los hostigios hace unos 12 días. Estos son los campos de la refugia de Zhebalia en el norte de la ciudad de Gaza. Y luego, el Zhezhaia, un pequeño pueblo que se enfrenta a Nachalóz, que fue el sitio de una de las muestras de las muestras en octubre 7. Y eso es donde los 10 soldados israelíos fueron muestrados, 9 en 1 ambush estruendo con sus ideas, y un gran fuego, y otro, en otra parte de Zhezhaia. Y luego, tienes el nuevo estrés de la IDF en el centro del norte de la estrés de Gaza, que es el área de Janyones. Y para la IDF, para ellos, es el desplazamiento de Janyones porque, según ellos, la política y la leadership militar de Janyones está ubicada en Janyones desde que se originó de ahí y creen que su populación es la más frecuencia de ellos. Gracias mucho. El corresponde Peer Kloschendler Live from Southern Israel. More to come from our team on the ground in the coming hours. And now, we welcome to studio, Colonel in the Reserves, Olivier Rafavich, IDF spokesperson for the international media and our correspondent, Robert Swift. Thank you both so much for being here. And Olivier, I'm going to start with you. It's a heavy day, this ambush, a major toll for the IDF, a major setback and a reminder of the risks that exist right now in this fighting inside the Gaza Strip. Tell us more. There is a war since the 7th of October. And it's a war against Hamas in a very populated area, the Gaza Strip, and Hamas is still there. What happened yesterday with such a toll, 10 people have been killed in this ambush and prove that Hamas is still there, prove that we need to continue the operations again Hamas in Zajaya, in Jabali and the northern part of the Gaza Strip, but also in Hanune, in the south. And the war is not over. Again, it's a very difficult result of the fighting situation, but it is actually a fact in this war. We pay a very heavy price for fighting and for eliminating at the end of the day Hamas terrorist group. And the Goulani Brigade has a bitter connection to Zajaya. Going back to the last Gaza war in 2014, take us back to the significance of what unfolded overnight. There is still inquiry and checking by the troops. We lost their battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel, in charge of the, what we call, the name is kind of headquarters for the field operation, but we talk about anti-tank missile, we talk about risk of kidnapping of soldiers, the arrival of troops in order to prevent the kidnapper situation. We talk here about a clear and very sharp operation against terror when terrorists are around, still around, with the risk again to lose soldiers or to lose control or to lose the connection between troops. So the result, again, is very tough. I don't want to elaborate too much until the investigation is still finished. And of course complicating this fighting on the ground is the fact that as of this hour from what we understand there are 135 hostages still being held captive somewhere in the Gaza Strip. Talk to us about what is known and about the efforts that the IDF is taking right now to still locate the hostages who are alive somewhere in Gaza. You put the focus in a very, very important fact. We are actually doing two things simultaneously. One is to fight to eliminate Hamas in fighting in operations like yesterday in Sajaya, in Hanyunas, in Jibalia, but also at the same time we are continuing to press very hard, very hard Hamas in order to rescue our hostages or by military means or by other means. But what happened two days ago when we actually brought back to Israel two bodies of hostages mean that the Israeli army the leaders of the Israeli army the government are still keen to do everything in order to bring them back. We want them to be brought back alive, but in this case according to our intelligence and we are still following precisely all these situations of the hostages by very accurate intelligence if there is a possibility to bring back even bodies will do it even if the operation is very risky. And if you remember a few days ago we lost two soldiers in the operation of bringing back hostages and we knew that in this situation they were only dead and not alive. And as you say there are two main goals that we keep on hearing one is to eliminate the Hamas threat inside the Gaza Strip and the other obviously is to get home all the hostages and get them home safely as soon as possible. Stay with us we've got more to discuss but now let's take a look at the US impact on the developments right now. President Joe Biden says his administration has no plans to place conditions on the military aid it is providing to Israel despite growing calls by some democratic lawmakers and human rights groups for the US to stop providing weapons unless Israel does more to protect civilians in Gaza. The US leader telling democratic donors in Washington this week he had some tough conversations with Benjamin Netanyahu about Israel's military operation how Israel is losing international support and the need for a two-state solution led by the Palestinian Authority. US officials pointing out to CNN that Israel embeds military lawyers with IDF units who determine beforehand whether a strike will be proportional and legal. Separately, Biden was asked about reports that Israel has started pumping sea water into Hamas tunnels in Gaza. Let's take a listen. Con respecto to the flooding of the tunnels I'm not a little... Well, there is assertions being made that there's quite sure there are no hostages in any of these tunnels but I don't know that for a fact I do know that though every civilian death is an absolute tragedy and Israel has stated its intent as I said to match its words with its intent with word, with actions that's why I was that's what I was talking about today. Colonel in the Reserves Olivier Rathovich IDF spokesperson for international media Is this an option? Is it happening? What can you tell us and what are the risks? I don't want to comment on the US assistance to Israel what I can tell you that the American allies to the state of Israel military speaking we are very close and there is a real dialogue between Israel and the American and we continue to do what we are doing we inform and we update the American side about mostly the operation but also the humanitarian assistance that we are providing along the military action and I think personally that the American government understood very well what's going on here in Israel and without that we prefer not to elaborate. Would you be prepared to shed any light on the use potentially of seawater to flood the tunnels in Gaza? You know tunnels have been digged and have been actually prepared around 500 miles in all the Gaza Strip it's a big danger mostly for the civilian population let's say that tactically speaking we are doing what we are doing in order to destroy them without that I will not elaborate. Thank you so much stay with us we've got more to discuss because earlier on Wednesday in yet another move out of Yemen two missiles fired from territory held by Houthi rebels missed a commercial tanker near the key Babomandeb straight an American warship also shut down a suspected Houthi drone flying in its direction no one was hurt in the attack the oil and chemical tanker was travelling north towards the Suez Canal in the Red Sea it had left from India and had an armed security crew on board still in studio our correspondent Robert Swift Yemen is active more specifically Iranian proxies in Yemen are active what is the latest on that front what are the current risks? Yeah so just to put that into context essentially Yemen has been trapped in a civil war the Houthis have been in government have been out of government at times but they are not the sole controller of the Yemeni territory however these launches that we've been seeing are originating from the territory controlled by the Houthis who as you say are allied to Iran now this is the second attack on a civilian ship in as many days two days ago there was a Norwegian flagged vessel that was actually struck by a I believe it was cruise missile and in that incident a French military vessel intercepted a drone so both these incidents involves multiple launches this does appear to be an escalation in the attacks that the Houthis are making against vessels in the area and clearly we can see they are not targeted they are launching attacks against ships of a variety of different flags and this is going to increase pressure for some sort of international coalition to deal with this issue What has the global reaction been so far this could trigger something far greater than what we are seeing in the Middle East Good, now the US have dispatched warships to the area the US has ships in the Red Sea Israel has itself just yesterday sent another one of its vessels from its much smaller navy down into the Red Sea and as I said there are French vessels there as well the US it's worth noting has not only sent ships into the Red Sea but has stationed one of its aircraft carriers Eisenhower off the Iranian coast although that does appear to be more of an attempt to dampen down Iranian actions rather than a direct response to the Houthis and Olivia I want to bring you in here because we're talking about the developments inside the Gaza Strip the Hamas threat we're talking about Hezbollah in the north and then Yemen the Iranian proxies are active and it's happening with increasing regularity Can Israel withstand tensions on all these fronts? We must have said that the Hezbollah growing involvement against Israel and the Uzi missile attacks or the program in the Red Sea all of them are connected to Hamas situation in the Gaza Strip they are trying to destruct the Israeli military force from the south toward other arenas and it's maybe an expression of the weakness or I would say a kind of weakness in the south from the Hamas side expressed by this willingness from Hezbollah and also from the Houthis with the Iranian in the back to destruct the Israeli military actions then we'll be active in the north we'll be active against Uzi maybe less active according to what they think against Hamas but let's say very clearly Israel will continue the main effort on priority to fight and destroy Hamas in the south and at the same time we are also able to deal with Hezbollah threat and with the Uzi in the Red Sea maybe you saw yesterday the new fleet of SAR-6 new military ships in the Red Sea I think it's a good sign Colonel in the reserves, Olivier Rafavich always appreciate your insights here in studio correspondent Robert Soek, thank you as always appreciate your input on this breaking news edition thank you Avigail Idan turned 4 years old while in Hamas captivity both her parents were murdered by Hamas terrorists on the 7th of October her two older siblings hid in a closet for hours during that massacre Avigail and her siblings are together staying with relatives, family dealing with what they call a rollercoaster of emotions each day more in this channel 12 report let's take a look a lawyer came yesterday he said it's my granddaughters she said to give it to Avigail she penetrated her heart that's all for Avigail Michael and Amalia, my son has much more Carmel, Avigail's grandfather no longer finds a place where all the gifts he's received from people he doesn't know the embrace of love and perhaps an attempt to compensate for collective feelings of guilt how a mischievous girl only 4 years old found herself a prisoner of Hamas for 51 days immediately after her parents were murdered how is the family after Avigail returned very short joy I thought it would be celebrations and parties and something like that I think after an hour we realized it was not that at all in the end there are 3 children without parents how was Avigail when she came back mostly shocked from all the faces from all this happening around her really shocked it was also late you know to arrive at the end of the day kidnapping and the crossings and the border and all the time you see the terrorists again and she just arrived already broken and didn't speak at all for the first hour she wants to drink grape juice and eat pretzels mostly requests from someone who suddenly realizes that maybe she's no longer in captivity and can ask Avigail didn't approach me didn't look in my direction didn't speak fine another day will come and the kiss and the hug will come how did Michael and Amelia Avigail's siblings react they knew Avigail was in Gaza and suddenly she came back to them I think they're feeling joy there was joy but it's still not the same they have a deep sadness so it was really one very happy moment that they came together and now the confrontation what will happen from here time will do its thing a month before Avigail's release we accompanied the families of Smodar and Roy to a family meeting trying to embrace Michael and Amelia to give a feeling of family why don't you call me Smodar's family are coming here and our family with Roy's children we have a meeting with everyone first time since it happened, yes no one there was able to forget what happened to these children on the black Sabbath the unimaginable fact that 9 year old Michael 6 year old Amelia and 4 year old Avigail saw their parents murder before their eyes when the alarm started Smodar was with Michael and Amelia in the safe room Roy, who works as a winet photographer still had time to go out to the balcony with Avigail in his arms to photograph the terrorists approaching the kibbutz on paragliders he's been with Roy and Smodar's children for the last month yes how is it not easy it's not easy what they saw it's not easy for them it's certainly not easy for us the horrors they saw I don't know if any of us would have emerged the same from such a situation never mind children aged 6 and 9 it's very very tough very tough That Saturday after their parents were murdered Avigail ran outside Michael and Amelia ran back into their house they hid in the yellow closet in the safe room with the body of their mother Smodar lying right next to them with 14 hours they hid, heard gunshots and waited in the inferno while the family tried to reassure them I picked up the phone to Roy Roy didn't answer so that's the agreement between us if he doesn't answer he's taking pictures so I called Smodar to ask what happened Michael the 9 year old grandson answered I told him I want mom he said mom's dead and dad's dead outside I asked where's your sister Amelia he told me with me where's Avigail he said she's not at home I got a Holocaust I was completely shocked I was trying to think of how to help How did the children sound in those moments Listen they were just brave Miguel answered the phones at first then he stopped and 6 year old Amalia she was my contact person she spoke I mean the safe room everything is fine we're in the closet don't open the door for anyone At this time Michael and Amelia did not know how Avigail was doing Avigai, the neighbor across the street was the last to see her before she was kidnapped with Hagar his wife she was white as a sheet but covered in blood drenched in blood and I knew I knew it wasn't her blood I tossed her over to my wife and went back until 12 o'clock one I was still optimistic sure that the army would come and take them out and we saw it was not happening and it's not happening and time was passing and moving on we were already passing midnight and still every hour I spoke with them and I heard that they're already starting the mood is already dropping and it's already going to be hard there inside this closet and you know they're alone and no agency can help you not the police, not the emergency services not the IDF not our connections the civilians ran the war at 7 in the evening after I involved a friend we managed to reach the team located in Kfar Azar the military took Michael and Amelia under fire outside the Kibbutz and a meat came to pick them up how was this meeting it was very difficult, very hard I let a friend drive with them even though they had such a long journey they didn't fall asleep they were close to me the whole way and just told me what happened and what happened and what will happen and how it will happen and this was a journey, a difficult journey since they've been with Leeron Madar's sister her husband Zuli and their three children who lived right next to them in Kfar Azar a total environment for them they grew up with these children of course the whole family is involved from all sides there is everyone's cooperation here because in the end there is a common goal that these children will have the best possible future there is deep sadness for Michael very deep sadness he knows everything that happened he was always alone a child who grew up in all these circumstances a 9 year old boy who has already gone through more wars than people in the whole world go through Amalia is more open but there is also sadness in her eyes how is Avigale in her everyday life when you look at her she is happy she's so little maybe maybe she'll get through it somehow Avigale had her 4th birthday in captivity yes I don't know if she knew that ¿te mencionarás? hicimos algo pequeño modesto, caliente aquí y ahí a nivel simplificado, tal vez el siguiente año ¿entienden que Roy y Smidar no van a regresar? si, después de lo que se vio no hay manera no es ambigüe ¿qué tal de lo que mostre? toys un momento y luego a mamá y papá llaman a las casas en los finales son niños tienen parte feliz y tienen parte triste y tienen parte difícil llamo un rollo de la costa hay un discurso de todo de lo que ha sucedido y por qué les damos el espacio y necesitamos una venta y necesitamos una lluvia pero en el final siempre tenemos la fuerza les damos todo lo que necesitan eso es por supuesto pero no podremos darles la seguridad les damos a la ruta, viviendo en un lugar que sea bueno para ellos quiero que ellos se creen para entender que no es su país no es segura en el estado de Israel su 4º birthday en la captividad y eso es un rato de esta edición de la apertura de news coverage estacionado Israel es en un estado de la guerra familias completamente descuidados en sus casas no tenemos idea de lo que es lo que está pasando en la línea pero la percepción general es algo que debe ser asociado castigo de Israel con docentes de correspondencia trae la verdad de Israel a cientos de millones de personas en escores de países de la frontera del estado de emergencia y de la guerra en Israel trae la historia de Israel para el mundo este es la edición de breaking news estoy en Benicio Levine vivo en Tel Aviv la pelea dentro de Gaza es intensa y se viene a un costo grave con otro 9 soldados israelíos asociados en un ambush en el corazón de Sejaia en uno de los más muertos en la operación de la tierra hasta ahora 7 de los soldados fueron de la Brigade de Golani y 2 de las unidades incluían 2 comandos señores separado en el norte de Gaza un miembro de la unidad de combate fue asociado en el norte esto trae la idea de la muerte desde la incursión de retaliación empezó a 115 mientras red alert siren en parte de las partes de Israel de hace un tiempo incluyendo Roshanikra y en el sur los roquitos de las comunidades israelías cerca de la bordera incluyendo Kisufin y Neroz el día 68 de la guerra más de 9 semanas en el que más de 1.200 personas fueron asociados 135 soldados aún siendo capturados por el grupo de terror siguiendo la confirmación que los soldados de dos de los soldados y en otro desarrollo en este día la coordinación humanitaria en las tierras palestinianas diciendo que el sistema de salud en el Gaza se ha colabido ahora para el más reciente nos cruzamos a nuestro correspondiente Peer Kloschengler en el sur de Israel y Peer un desplazamiento para Israel, 9 soldados israelíos asociados en el ambush ¿qué es el más reciente en el grado? ¿qué podemos decirnos de dentro de la strip de Gaza? hay todavía 3 puntos focales de la lucha en la strip de Gaza y estos son los mismos puntos focales desde el inicio de la renovación de la defensa del grado después de ponerse en la lucha para el relicio de los hostes hace unos 12 días estos son los campes de la refugia de la ciudad de Gaza y luego un pequeño pueblo de la ciudad que fue el sitio de los asociados en octubre 7 y eso es donde los 10 soldados israelíos fueron asociados 9 en 1 ambush estruidos con ideas y un asociador en otra parte de Shejaia y luego tienes el nuevo desplazamiento de la IDF en el centro del sur de la strip de Gaza que es el área para la IDF para ellos es el desplazamiento de Hamas porque según ellos la política y la leadership militar de Hamas está ubicada en Canuna desde que se originó y creen que su populación es la más loco para ellos Gracias Correspondente Pierre Kloschengler Live from Southern Israel More to come from our team And now we welcome to studio Colonel in the Reserves Olivier Rathovich IDF spokesperson for the international media and our correspondent Robert Swift Thank you both so much for being here and Olivier I'm going to start with you it's a heavy day this ambush a major toll for the IDF a major setback and a reminder of the risks that exist right now outside the Gaza strip tell us more There is a war since the 7th of October and it's a war against Hamas in a very populated area the Gaza strip and Hamas is still there what happened yesterday with such a toll 10 people have been killed in this ambush prove that Hamas is still there prove that we need to continue the operations again Hamas a part of the Gaza strip but also in in the south and the war is not over again it's a very difficult result of the fighting situation but it is actually a fact in this war we pay a very heavy price for fighting and for eliminating at the end of the day Hamas terrorist group and the Goulani Brigade has a bitter connection to Shazajia going back to the last Gaza war in 2014 take us back to the significance of what unfolded overnight there is still inquiry and checking by the troops you know we lost there a battalion commander let him kill him on the colonel in charge of the what we call the name is a kind of headquarters for the field operation but we talk about anti tank missile we talk about risk of kidnapping of soldiers the arrival of troops in order to prevent the the kidnapper situation we talk here about a clear and very sharp operation against terror and terrorists are around still around and with the risk again to lose soldiers or to lose control or to lose the connection between troops so the result again is very tough I don't want to elaborate too much until the investigation is still finished and of course complicating this fighting on the ground is the fact that as of this hour from what we understand there are a lot of people being held captive somewhere in the Gaza Strip talk to us about what is known and about the efforts that the IDF is taking right now to still locate the hostages who are alive somewhere in Gaza you put the focus on a very very important fact we are actually doing two things simultaneously one is to fight to eliminate Hamas in fighting in operations like yesterday in Zajaya, in Hanyunes in Jibalia, but also at the same time we are continuing to press very hard, very hard Hamas in order to rescue our hostages or by military means or by other means but what happened two days ago when we actually brought back to Israel two bodies of hostages mean that the Israeli army the leaders of the Israeli army the government are still keen in order to bring them back we want them to be brought back alive but in this case according to our intelligence and we are still following precisely all the situation of the hostages by very accurate intelligence if there is a possibility to bring back even bodies we will do it even if the operation is very risky and if you remember a few days ago we lost two soldiers the operation of bringing back hostages and we knew that in this situation they were only dead and not alive and as you say there are two main goals that we keep on hearing one is to eliminate the Hamas threat inside the Gaza Strip and the other obviously is to get home all the hostages and get them home safely as soon as possible stay with us we've got more to discuss but now let's take a look at the US President Joe Biden says his administration has no plans to place conditions on the military aid it is providing to Israel despite growing calls by some Democratic lawmakers and human rights groups for the US to stop providing weapons unless Israel does more to protect civilians in Gaza the US leader telling Democratic donors in Washington this week he had some tough conversations with Benjamin Netanyahu about Israel's military operation how Israel is losing international support and the need for a two state solution led by the Palestinian Authority US officials pointing out to CNN that Israel embeds military lawyers with IDF units who determine beforehand whether a strike will be proportional and legal separately Biden was asked about reports that Israel has started pumping seawater into Hamas tunnels in Gaza let's take a listen Colonel in the reserves at Livia Rathovich IDF spokesperson for international media is this an option is it happening what can you tell us and what are the risks I don't want to comment on the US assistance to Israel what I can tell you that the American allies to the state of Israel I don't want to comment on the US assistance the American allies to the state of Israel militarily speaking we are very close and there is a real dialogue between Israel and the American and we continue to do what we are doing we inform and we update the American side about mostly the operation but also the humanitarian assistance that we are providing along the military action I think personally that the American government understand very well what's going on here in Israel and without that we prefer not to elaborate would you be prepared to shed any light on the use potentially of seawater to flood the tunnels in Gaza you know tunnels have been digged and have been actually prepared around 500 miles a trip it's a big danger mostly for the civilian population later that tactically speaking we are doing what we are doing in order to destroy them without that I will not elaborate thank you so much stay with us we've got more to discuss because earlier on Wednesday in yet another move out of Yemen two missiles fired from territory held by Houthi rebels missed a commercial tanker a ship also shut down a suspected Houthi drone flying in its direction no one was hurt in the attack the oil and chemical tanker was travelling north towards the Suez Canal in the Red Sea it had left from India and had an armed security crew on board still in studio our correspondent Robert Swift Yemen is active more specifically Iranian proxies what is the latest on that front what are the current risks just to put that into context essentially Yemen has been trapped in a civil war the Houthis have been out of government at times but they are not the sole controller of the Yemeni territory however these launches that we've been seeing are originating from the territory controlled by the Houthis who as you say are allied to Iran now this is the second attack on a civilian ship in as many days 2 días ago there was a Norwegian flag vessel that was actually struck by a cruise missile and in that incident a French military vessel intercepted a drone so both these incidents involves multiple launches this does appear to be an escalation in the attacks that the Houthis are making against vessels in the area and clearly we can see they are not targeted they are launching attacks against ships of a variety of different flags and this is going to increase pressure for some sort of international coalition to deal with this issue what has the global reaction been so far this could trigger something far greater than what we are seeing in the Middle East yeah good now the US have dispatched warships to the area the US has ships in the Red Sea Israel has itself just yesterday sent another one of its vessels a much smaller navy down into the Red Sea and as I said there are French French vessels there as well the US it's worth noting has not only sent ships into the Red Sea but has stationed one of its aircraft carriers Eisenhower off the Iranian coast although that does appear to be more of a an attempt to dampen down Iranian actions rather than a direct response to the Houthis and Olivia I want to bring you in here because we're talking about the developments inside the Gaza Strip we're talking about Hezbollah in the north and then Yemen the Iranian proxies are active and it's happening with increasing regularity can Israel withstand tensions on all these fronts we must have said that the Hezbollah growing involvement against Israel on the Uzi missile attacks or the program in the Red Sea all of them are connected to Hamas situation in the Gaza Strip trying to destruct the Israeli military force from the south to other arenas and it's maybe an expression of the weakness or I would say a kind of weakness in the south from the Hamas side expressed by this willingness from Hezbollah also from the Houthis with the Iranian in the back to destruct the Israeli military actions then we'll be active in the north we'll be active against Houthis maybe less active according to what they think against Hamas but let's say very clearly Israel will continue the main effort on priority to fight and destroy Hamas in the south and at the same time we are also able to deal with Hezbollah threat and with the Houthis in the Red Sea maybe you saw yesterday as the new fleet of star 6 new military ships I think it's a good sign when Houthis threatening us Colonel in the Reserves Olivier Rafavich always appreciate your insights here in studio correspondent Robert Soek thank you as always appreciate your input on this breaking news edition thank you Avigal Idan turned 4 years old while in Hamas captivity both her parents were murdered by Hamas terrorists on the 7th of October her two oldest siblings were killed in a closet for hours during that massacre now Avigal and her siblings are together staying with relatives family dealing with what they call a roller coaster of emotions each day more in this channel 12 report let's take a look a lawyer came yesterday he said it's my granddaughters she said to give it to Avigal she penetrated her heart that's all for Avigal Carmel, Avigal's grandfather no longer finds a place for all the gifts he's received from people he doesn't know the embrace of love and perhaps an attempt to compensate for collective feelings of guilt how a mischievous girl only 4 years old found herself a prisoner of Hamas for 51 days immediately after her parents were murdered how is the family after Avigal returned very short joy I thought it would be celebrations and parties and something like that I think after an hour we realized it was not that at all in the end there are three children without parents how was Avigal when she came back mostly shocked from all the faces from all this happening around her really shocked to arrive at the end of the day is to go through a journey your removal from the place of the kidnapping and the crossings and the border and all the time you see the terrorists again and she just arrived already broken and didn't speak at all for the first hour she wants to drink grape juice and eat pretzels mostly requests from someone who suddenly realizes that maybe she's no longer in captivity and can ask Avigal didn't approach me didn't look in my direction didn't speak fine another day will come and the kiss and the hug will come how did Michael and Amelia Avigal's siblings react they knew Avigal was in Gaza and suddenly she came back to them I think they're feeling joy there was joy but it's still not the same they have a deep sadness so it was really one very happy moment that they came together a month before Avigal's release we accompanied the families of Smodar and Roy to a family meeting trying to embrace Michael and Amelia to give a feeling of family why don't you call me Smodar's family are coming here and our family with Roy's children we have a meeting with everyone we have a meeting with everyone we have a meeting with everyone we have a meeting we have a meeting with everyone first time since it happened no one there was able to forget what happened to these children on the black Sabbath the unimaginable fact that 9 year old Michael 6 year old Amalia and 4 year old Avigal saw their parents murder before their eyes when the alarm started Smodar was with Michael and Amalia in the safe room he went out to the balcony with Avigal in his arms to photograph the terrorists approaching the Kibbutz on paragliders infiltrating right in front of the house you've been with Roy and Smodar's children for the last month how is it not easy it's not easy what they saw it's not easy for them it's certainly not easy for us the horrors they saw have emerged the same from such a situation never mind children aged 6 and 9 it's very very tough that Saturday after their parents were murdered Avigal ran outside Michael and Amalia ran back into their house they hid in the yellow closet in the safe room with the body of their mother Smodar lying right next to them 14 hours they hid heard gunshots and waited in the inferno while the family tried to reassure them from afar I picked up the phone to Roy Roy didn't answer so that's the agreement between us if he doesn't answer, he's taking pictures so I called Smodar to ask what happened Michael the 9 year old grandson answered I told him I want mom he said mom's dead and dad's dead outside Amalia, he told me, with me where's Avigal he said she's not at home in short a Holocaust I was completely shocked I was trying to think of how to help how did the children sound in those moments listen they were just brave Michael answered the phones at first then he stopped and 6 year old Amalia she was my contact person she spoke, I mean the safe room everything is fine, we're in the closet it won't open the door for anyone it won't open, they answered yes and no, and good at this time, Michael and Amalia did not know how Avigal was doing Avigai, the neighbor across the street was the last to see her before she was kidnapped with Hagar his wife she was white as a sheet but covered in blood, drenched in blood and I knew it wasn't her blood I tossed her over to my wife and went back until 12 o clock 1 I was still optimistic, sure that the army would come and take them out and we saw it was not happening and it's not happening and time was passing and moving on we were already passing midnight and still every hour I spoke with them and I heard that they're already starting the mood is already dropping and it's already going to be hard there inside this closet and you know they're alone and no agency can help you not the police, not the emergency services not the IDF only our connections the civilians are in the war at 7 in the evening after I involved a friend we managed to reach the team located in Kfar Azar the military took Michael and Amalia under fire outside the kibbut and a meat came to pick them up how was this meeting it was very difficult very hard I let a friend drive I sat in the back with them even though they had such a long journey they didn't fall asleep they were close to me the whole way and just told me what happened and what happened and what will happen and how it will happen and this was a journey, a difficult journey since they've been with Leeron Madar's sister her husband Zuli they will probably stay with us with the family with my wife this is a very natural environment for them they grew up with these children of course the whole family is involved from all sides there is everyone's cooperation here because in the end there is a common goal that these children will have the best possible future this deep sadness for Michael very deep sadness he knows everything that happened he is alone a child who grew up in all these circumstances a 9 year old boy has already gone through more wars than people in the whole world go through Amalia is more open but there is also sadness in her eyes how is Avigel in her everyday life when you look at her she is happy she is so little maybe through it somehow Avigel had her fourth birthday in captivity yes I don't know if she knew that we did something small modest, cake and here and there like that at the simplest level there is maybe next year do they understand that Roy and Smidhar will not return yes after what they saw there is no way it's not ambiguous what do they mostly talk about Tuvis un momento, y luego sobre mamá y papá, y luego van a regresar y combattar con las casas. En los finales son niños, tienen parte feliz y tienen parte triste y tienen parte difícil. Me llamo la rola costa, hay un discurso alrededor de todo lo que ha sucedido, y por qué ha sucedido. Tenemos algunos de los espacios que necesitamos al final, y necesitamos llenar y necesitamos esto. Pero en el final, siempre vamos adelante. Vamos a darles todo lo que necesitan, eso es por supuesto. Pero no podemos darles la seguridad. Déjenlos ir de alli, vive en un lugar que sea bueno para ellos. Quiero que ellos creen, para entender que esto no es su país. No es segura de vivir en el estado de Israel. Su 4º birthday en captivity. Y eso es un rato por esta edición de Noticias Cabrera de la Unidad. Lo que vi hoy fue increíble. La devastación en los hogares, la destrucción, la escena todavía que puedes imaginar de lo que sucedió. Era como algo de un film. Y también el sentimiento, la overpowering. Era un día importante para mí y para mostrarles. Los veintidós de las 24 noticias, pero fue un día difícil. Este fue el hogar de Yaniv Ohana, para ver básicamente un día moderno en el peor grado. Y para sentir la vulnerabilidad. Nosotros vivimos en Israel, estamos dependientes de la armada, el gobierno y la autoridad para dar seguridad, para ver cómo todo eso puede ser overturnado en el curso de un día. Creo que realmente nos hace entender cómo frágil nuestras vidas son y cuánto vamos a tener que combinar para nuestra existencia, en esta parte del mundo. Bienvenido a este programa especial en I-24 News. Soy Khaled Ben-DeVee. Este mes, ha sido el 38 años, desde que empecé a ser un jornalista en Israel. Y nada fue como los últimos dos meses. Esto ha sido el más desafortunado, el más emocional, el más heartbreaking y en algunos casos, la más complexa historia que he tenido que coverar durante ese tiempo. Y nunca me sentí como la responsabilidad de presentar esta historia a la mundo, en el correcto contexto, con los correctos factores, y para realmente hablar de la verdad a la poder en esta situación. Estamos en un estado de guerra. Las familias son completamente abiertas en sus caballos. No tenemos ni idea de qué preocupamos, porque nuestros soldados están peleando en las fuertes, pero la percepción general es algo que debe ser creado también. En la edición de I-24 News, soy Vanessa Levine. La pelea dentro de Gaza es intensificar la costa de peso. Con otros 10 soldados israelíos, han matado a 9 de ellos en un ambush en el corazón de Sejaia, en uno de los acuerdos más muertos en la operación de la tierra. Seven de los soldados fueron de la Brigada Golaní y dos de los unidos de Elit 669, la unidad de investigación y rescate. Ellos incluyen dos comandos señores. Aseguramente, un miembro de la corrupción de combate en el combate fue matado a la pelea en el norte de Gaza. Esto lleva a la muerte de los soldados desde que la incursión de retaliación comenzó a 115. Sin embargo, los soldados se alertaron en las partes de Israel del norte un poco tiempo atrás, incluyendo Roza Nicaragua. Y en el sur, los soldados fueron enviados desde Gaza a varias comunidades israelías en el día anterior, incluyendo en Kisufin y Neroz. El día 68 de la guerra, más de 9 semanas, desde el Hamas Terras Enslot en el norte de Israel, en el que más de 1,200 personas fueron matadas. 135 hostigas aún siendo capturadas por el grupo de terror, siguiendo la confirmación de la noche que los miedos de dos hostigas han sido recuperados. Y en otro desarrollo en este día, el coordinador humanitario en las tierras palestinianas, diciendo que el sistema de salud en Gaza se ha colapsado. Para más información, bienvenido al estudio Retirado Colonel, Dr. Jacques Neria, former Deputy Head of Assessment en la inteligencia militar israelía y former Policía Policía Adviser para el presidente Yitzhak Rabin. Y Avi Pazner, former Israeli Ambassador para Francia y Italia y former World Chairman de Karen Hayas en el Unión de Israel. Muchas gracias a todos por estar en el estudio hoy. Y quiero comenzar, Jacques, con vosotros y esta muerte, la israelía, la muerte de la IDF, llegando a 115, después de esta embosca que sucedió, seguramente a un alto costo, la continuación de la pelea es el día 68. Bueno, hay un precio para una guerra y, seguramente, para una furia urbana. Esto es uno de los lugares más formidables que han sido construidos como fortresses. Todo el tiempo, hay un gran apelso que son campes de refugio. No hay campes de refugio. Estas son fortificaciones que han sido construidas por años y años y que están sobre el grado y que están debajo del grado. Y esto es una bastión increíble que tiene que ser eliminada, pero es que hace tiempo, porque, como mucho inteligencia que tienes, todavía no hay más inteligencia para saber cómo esos tonos están comportando, dónde llegan, cómo llegan las entradas, es decir, desde el norte y el sur, y vice versa y así. Hay mucho que hacer y tenemos que ser muy vigilantes. Y esto es lo que sucedió ayer, fue una lucha de vigilantes. Afortunadamente, hay una rusa para ir y ayudar a un grupo que ha sido embosca y, en vez de tomar todas las medidas, las medidas de seguridad y todas las medidas que tenían que ser tomadas, se empujaron, y fue una lucha abierta y fueron tomadas por un costumbre por ambos lados. Y esto no es exactamente lo que esperamos de la armadura israelíca. Hablando de eso, sabemos que hasta ahora el comportamiento de todos esos tonos tiene que tener cuidado y nos aproximamos muy lentamente y debemos seguir en la forma que hicimos hasta ahora. Y la situación es que, debido a la factura que es casi un cuerpo a un cuerpo, la confrontación, tenemos que llamar a la aeropuerto para los helicópteros, para la alternativa, solo para preparar el grano antes de entrar ahí. Y si hicimos eso, creo que el daño colateral que sucedió yesterday no hubiera sucedido en todo. Tenemos 9 soldados que fueron matados y luego puedes ver que han estado muy altos de los oficiales, lo que significa que esto es exactamente lo que la armadura israelíca está hablando todo el tiempo. Los oficiales van en frente y dicen que vienen detrás de mí y que vamos primero y luego vienen después de nosotros. Esto es exactamente lo que enseñamos en nuestros colegios, en nuestras escuelas militares y esto es lo que los valores que tenemos en el grano. Entonces, esos oficiales que murieron y los soldados que acompañaron a ellos nos han dado el ejemplo de cómo combinar y dónde combinar. Y esto es un asunto para continuar en su camino. Y esperamos que esto no será, o sea, olvidado, pero que la victoria en el final de esta guerra también celebrará el hecho de que ellos eran parte de esta campaña gloriosa. Y, Aví, el corazón es tan grave alrededor del país, ahora mismo, funerales para los soldados muriendo, defendiendo su país. Tu asunto en el pulso, ahora mismo, el sentimiento en el país en este día. Bueno, estás bien, Benita. Es un día muy triste para Israel. Puedes sentirlo en todo el mundo. Y las personas dicen solo sobre eso. Y esta es una tragedia para la familia y para el país, para el país también. O sea, pero de acuerdo, que el espíritu en Israel permanece resoluido. O sea, las personas saben que estamos pagando un precio grave y que si queremos realmente lograr nuestro objetivo, es una guerra longa. ¿Sabes? Desde el día uno, todo el presidente de la armada, el nivel político, será una guerra longa. Pero es importante intentar y tener cuidado de los Hamas. Porque hay una cosa que es, por supuesto, si terminamos esa guerra y el Hamas sigue en contra de Gaza, entonces no es la victoria. Y necesitamos algún momento y espero que lleguemos el momento que necesitamos, porque necesitamos algún momento. Necesitamos ser como Col. Neria dice, quizá más cuidado no a nacer a las aventuras, pero necesitamos tiempo. Necesitamos limpiar la gaza desde el Hamas. Esto es un Equinón. ¿Qué impacta, Jacques, de la presión de la broma, específicamente de la U.S., detrás de la escena, para llegar a la fin de esta guerra tan pronto como posible? ¿Es esta decisión impactada en la tierra? ¿De acuerdo? Definitivamente. La actitud de la U.S. es una componenta importante en la decisión de Israel. Y nos escuchamos diferentes voces que vienen de la U.S. En el otro lado, ellos quieren que nos radicate el Hamas. En el otro lado, hacer lo que sea posible, no matar a los civilizados que están en el costumbre. Y, por lo tanto, ponen algunas reglas de engañamiento que es imposible de conocer desde el punto de vista de Israel. Porque esto no es la manera en que pagamos la guerra. Pagamos la guerra por preguntar a las personas entre nosotros y el enemigo para evacuar. Hemos preguntado a ellos varias veces y antes de que vamos a un asunto. Y no podemos aceptar lo que los americanos están diciendo a nosotros. Justo, yo digo, según los americanos, en el 10 de junio vamos a ser vamos a ser fuera de Gaza. Esto es lo que tienen en su mente que la guerra ha terminado, lo que hemos logrado, lo que hemos logrado. Y ahora es el momento de reorganizar. Y nosotros vamos a aceptar la operación, la operación de comando directa contra los tarjetos de Hamas. Pero no aceptaremos la presencia militaria para un tiempo en Gaza. Esto es lo que Salivan viene a hablar a nosotros. Esto es lo que la narrativa de la administración americana es que no deberíamos ser responsables de Gaza. Vamos a tener cuidado de tu problema, tu problema de seguridad. Pero tú irás a Gaza. Si terminas, si terminas, si no terminas, terminas luego. Y Jake Salivan, como dices, llegará en el país mañana. We will unpack a little bit more about that meeting shortly. But right now, stay with us. We're going to cross to our senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev and he joins us from Southern Israel. So Jonathan, we're discussing this devastating blow for Israel. 10 Israeli soldiers killed bringing the idea of death toll in the ground operation to 115. What is the latest on the fighting inside the Gaza Strip? What can you tell us this hour? Yes, of course, it was a very difficult night with that with that operation in Sojaia. Those, you know, at the beginning of the war, there's a lot of criticism on the Israeli army as to why is the ground operation delayed so much. One of the reasons is to try and prevent as much as possible these kind of operations. There's a very there's a very big understanding that Hamas understood very well that after the events of October 7th Israel will will invade the Gaza Strip. There's there were preparations and the Israeli army wanted to create a plan in which these kind of events happen as least as possible. And what's possible? I think up until now the IDF was able to prevent such operations, but but you cannot prevent them forever. And therefore that is why the advance is cautious. The advance is careful and slow, but you cannot prevent them forever. Let's remember there's another side and they're not as weak and helpless as some in Israel were perhaps thinking and they created this ambush which was successful, unfortunately for them four soldiers were killed inside the house and then in the operation to rescue them more soldiers were killed. There was a concern that these soldiers were abducted, kidnapped simply because there was no communication with them and it led to a large scale operation. Now there are questions even within the army should all these kind of operations be directed from the air should all these places be targeted from the air instead of sending a soldiers inside and putting them in risk. On the one hand you want to prevent the risk to your soldiers as much as possible. On the other hand when soldiers come in they can arrest people they can get intelligence at the end there's no there's nothing better than boots on the ground and these are the questions the army now has to ask itself. And Jonathan we've been talking as well about the fact that White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan will be here tomorrow said to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu and obviously on the table is going to be those US efforts to pressurize Israel to dial back its bombing of Gaza. That's the sentiment out of the United States talk to us about the importance of the messaging from the Biden administration right now how it is going to impact what is unfolding behind you inside the Gaza Strip if at all. So we just said that when you bomb from the air then you minimize the risk to your soldiers right that's that's on one hand on the other hand when you bomb from the air then then of course is a much bigger risk for for danger for the civilian population and that is something that the American administration wants to minimize what do you do how do you play around with that these are some of the concerns for the American administration on the other hand on one hand which wants to minimize the risk for civilians in Gaza as much as possible but on the other hand the Israeli army knows that when you send in your soldiers inside instead of bombing from the air you put your soldiers in danger it's a very delicate game there between Jerusalem and Washington. Thank you so much senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev live from southern Israel and we will be unpacking more of those details coming up very shortly but now let's take a closer look at the response out of the United States President Joe Biden saying his administration has no plans to place conditions on the military aid it is providing to Israel despite those growing calls by some democratic lawmakers and human rights groups for the US to stop providing weapons unless Israel does more to protect civilians in Gaza the US leader telling democratic donors in Washington this week he had some tough conversations with Benjamin Netanyahu about Israel's operation how Israel is losing international support and the need for a two-state solution led by the Palestinian authority US officials pointing out to CNN that Israel embeds military lawyers with IDF units who determined beforehand whether a strike will be proportional and legal separately Biden was asked about reports that Israel has started pumping seawater into Hamas tunnels in Gaza let's take a listen con acciones y es por eso es por eso que estoy hablando de hoy y aún en el estudio retargo con el Dr. Jacques Neria y el former ambassador Avi Pazner y Avi voy a venir a ver la mensaje diferente que viene de la administración de la Biden ahora mismo y cómo lo veas en tu historia en la diplomacia y en la reunión con los Estados Unidos tu parte de lo que estamos escuchando de Washington creo que estás escuchando el sonido de los pacientes y son diferentes primero nos dejamos nos dejamos ser muy claros los Estados Unidos nos da 100% militares y su apoyo diplomático para el tiempo siendo la gran pregunta ¿es verdad? ¿es diversión? ¿están tomando suficiente cuidados de la población civil? ¿lo dejamos suficiente humanitario? pero la principal pregunta no es ahí la principal pregunta son las diferencias sobre lo que hará el día después esa es la principal diferencia y ahí es donde creo que hay un poco de los pacientes en el lado de la administración mañana Saliván llegará la próxima semana Secretaría de Defensa Austin también también llegará yo lo digo tenemos que ver si podemos llegar a un común con nuestros amigos americanos el día después porque lo sabes la posición ahora solo para decir no a todo esa no es la posición tenemos que trabajar algo con los americanos o sea cuando dices no quieres no una falsa internacional no quieres la autoridad palestina tú tú quieres poder defenderse dentro de Gaza ¿qué quieres ocupar Gaza? el gobierno israelista tiene que formular y como rápido como posible una policía para el día después porque el día después espero que llegue vamos a ganar esta guerra espero y el día después que llegará y tenemos que continuar a trabajar juntos con los americanos somos dependientes de ellos no es tal vez el mejor sentimiento para ser así y para decir estamos dependientes ahora todos los días llegamos a amunición y armas todos los días llegamos a desplazos diplomáticos tenemos que trabajar una policía juntos con esta administración el gobierno nacional el consejo de seguridad Jake Sullivan aquí mañana como hemos hablado Lloyd Austin llegará aquí un poco después pero como mucho como la discusión y la debate y a veces debates centros alrededor del día después ahora hay un estrés existencial y eso claramente necesita ser el fócus para la IDF en el grado cuando las reuniones sucedieron entre Benjamin Netanyahu y estos visitantes US diplomáticos y oficiales no importa cuántos rankos seguramente el fócus es en eliminar el estrés A y B regiriendo 135 hostes Mineta tú definitivamente escribes o tú escribes completamente yo quiero decir la IDF tiene que performar tiene que proveer que es yo quiero decir que es capaz de erradicar la mas y esto es el trabajo de de de la armada en paralel tenemos que continuar a rescatar las hostes por los medios de negociaciones o por operaciones que están en el grado esto es algo que yo quiero decir que tenemos tenemos una una nación una nación no podemos terminar esta guerra con los hostes que están en las manos de de Hamas no podemos terminar esta guerra también con la con la mirada en las en la parta en la a la This is impossible now The we said earlier about the the impatience of the Americans and it comes because of declarations by our prime minister then asked and asked several times of what what is his vision about what would happen the day after finally he said I see a civil administration this is an at at an at at a at a what do you mean civil administration is very civil administration or the form civil administration what's sort of administration Y esto es definitivamente una línea de confrontación entre nosotros y los americanos, porque los americanos lo han dicho desde el día 1, no hay ocupación. Vamos a tener cuidado de tu seguridad, sus necesidades y así así, pero seguramente no en la presencia israelí y ocupando la fuerza en Gaza como en los días antes de Oslo. Esto es por eso que tenemos que hablar y hablar con los americanos, que también están holding us, holding our horses, the vis-à-vis Hezbala. They've been asking us from day one not to widen the conflict with Hezbala, not to turn it into a regional conflict, but the fact is that we are, Hezbala has the upper hand facing Israel. He does what he wants and he is expanding his activities and strikes inside Israel. He reached Akko, he reached Bereda-Galir, and this is definitely far beyond the four kilometers that we had in the beginning and Israel has not responded in kind. So what should Israel be doing up north right now, given exactly that threat you're talking about? For every strike we get from Hezbala, Hezbala should receive ten strikes at least, at least, and we should bombard, we should just make all those Lebanese living from the Litan to the international border with Israel, just evacuate. Evacuate the place and this is not only our side that has to be evacuated, they have to be evacuated and create a situation where it's in no man's land, it's a demilitarized zone and then we can speak about an arrangement with Hezbala. Your thoughts Avion exactly that, the way the US is impacting Israel's decisions and the fact that right now up north that threat exists as we speak out of Hezbala and southern Lebanon? I think that there must be a sequence of events and we have not to lose patience because again this is a long war, we are in for the long haul, we have to, you know already the army has described as 2024 as a warrior, it doesn't mean it has to be like today but it is a situation for first Benita we have to get a clear cut win in Gaza. That's first of all because if we don't get that, if we are unable to liquidate the leadership military and political of the Hamas and its grip on Gaza then nothing else will happen. Once this is done we will have to deal with the Hezbala and we have at our disposal a diplomatic tool which is this resolution of the UN from 2006 1701 which stipulate that the Hezbala should be not south of the Litani. Now the problem is how do you convince the Hezbala that they go beyond the Litani. So first of all, military win, clear military win in Gaza and then you have to apply military pressure on the Hezbala for Lebanon to agree again to implement 1701. We have just a few seconds left. I'd like to differ, 1701 speaks about abolishing all militias in Lebanon and Hezbala is not going to commit suicide, definitely no, definitely so. This is one. There's no government in Lebanon, there's no president in Lebanon, there's no chief of the army and there's no prime minister in Lebanon, all those are transition except for the president who is vacant since October 19, with whom are you going to sign an agreement. This government is unable to sign any agreement because of the Lebanese constitution. So we are just talking nonsense. Well, this is not the most optimistic of notes on which to end this discussion but as you say it's a long haul ahead and we wait again for news on those hostages inside the Gaza Strip at this hour, 135 hostages. That is the priority plus eliminating the Hamas threat and then as you say dealing with the developments. That's before we even get started on the Iranian proxies out of Yemen but we're out of time for now. Dr. Jacques Naria, thank you so much. As always, Abi Posner, former ambassador. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. On this breaking news edition. And as the war continues, so does that campaign to release the Israeli hostages as we were just discussing 135 men, women and children still being held captive. One of them is 21 year old Joshua Morell from Tanzania who came for a short period to keep what's not al oz and was abducted by Hamas on the 7th of October corresponded. Orisha Perra has his story. No, I didn't hear who is he. Among the dozens of hostages were still held by Hamas in Gaza. One seems to be far from the public eye. His name is Joshua Morell. He's a 21 year old student from Tanzania who came to Israel as a volunteer and stayed in Kibbutz Nahal Oz. He arrived in Israel only a few days before the Hamas onslaught on October 7. I met Joshua totally by coincidence. He worked in our dairy farm. I once gave him a ride and we talked for a bit. I know that he was kidnapped and just like any other hostage he is dear to us and we want him to return. One of the few organizations which is in touch with Joshua's family is the hotline of refugees and migrants. Tidal Rosen, the media coordinator of the center, says Joshua's situation is unique. The families of those who don't live here, it is so much difficult because first of all they have no knowledge about the situation. They have no knowledge about Gaza. They have no knowledge about Hamas. They have no contact with other people in similar situations and they don't know what can be done to bring back their beloved son. I24 News had the chance to ask Joshua's father about his son. I would like to message the Hamas to release this boy because he is not a Jew, he is not Israeli. He is a Tanzanian, a boy from Africa, who is not concerned with all at all. So please, this is my message, the father of Joshua, please help me. Juan says that ever since October 7, she has assisted many migrants and foreign workers suffering a severe crisis. One of the friends of Joshua, I was talking to him the other night. I was walking in the park and there was a rocket attack. And while I was talking to him, I told him I'm just looking for a wall here that they can stand behind because there is a rocket attack. I told him you can hear the siren. He said wow, and he was in a kind of panic because for him, rocket attack reminded him immediately of October 7th. And I told him we have this rocket attack every day and sometimes we have it twice a day. And I started explaining to him about the iron dawn and how it's not as if every day we experience the horrible, most horrible experience that he suffered during the October 7th attack. While other foreign workers were kidnapped on October 7, 23 Thai workers and one Filipino were released several weeks ago. And with that, we wrap up this edition about breaking news coverage. I'm Vanessa Levine, stay tuned. Israel is in a state of war, families completely gun down in their beds. We have no idea where she is, our soldiers are fighting on the front lines, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. Esta semana en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas, reportes desde la zona de guerra, la reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. Incluido en Kisufim y Neroz. Day 68 de la guerra, más de 9 semanas, since the Hamas terror onslaught in southern Israel, in which more than 1,200 people were killed. 135 hostages are still being held captive by the terror group, following confirmation overnight that the bodies of two of the hostages have been recovered. And in another development on this day, the UN Humanitarian Coordinator in the Palestinian Territories saying the health system in Gaza has collapsed. Now, for more on-site, we welcome to studio retired colonel Dr. Jacques Maria, former deputy head of assessment in the Israeli military intelligence and former foreign policy advisor to prime minister Yitzhak Rabin. And Avi Pazner, former Israeli ambassador to France and Italy and former world chairman of Karen Hayasod, the United Israel Appeal. Thank you so much, both of you for being here in studio on this day. And I want to start, Jacques, with you and this death toll, the Israeli IDF death toll rising to 115 after this ambush that happened, certainly a high cost. The fighting continues, it's day 68. Bueno, ya sabes, hay un precio para una guerra y, por supuesto, para una urbana. Esto es uno de los lugares más hermosos que han sido construidos como patrullos. Todo el tiempo. Ya se ha dicho que no hay capas de refugio. No hay capas de refugio. Estas son fortificaciones que han sido construidas por años y años. Y están fuera de la tierra y están debajo de la tierra. Y esto es una bastión increíble que tiene que ser eliminada, pero es tiempo. Porque como mucho inteligencia que tienes, aún hace más inteligencia saber cómo esos tonos están comportando, dónde llegan, cómo llegan las entradas desde el norte y los exámenes en el sur, y viceversa, etcétera. Hay mucho que hacer y tenemos que ser muy vigilantes. Y esto es lo que pasó ayer, fue una falta de vigilantes. Afortunadamente, hay que ir y ayudar a una unidad que ha sido embujada. Y, en vez de tomar todas las medidas, las medidas de seguridad, y todas las medidas que tenían que haber sido tomadas, se estrenó y fue un ámbujo abierto. Y fueron tomados por un ámbujo a ambos lados. Y esto no es exactamente lo que esperamos de la armada israelí. Hemos dicho que sabemos que hasta ahora el comportamiento de todos esos unidos está muy, muy cuidado. Y nos aproximamos y avanzamos muy, muy lentamente. Y debemos seguir con lo que hicimos hasta ahora. Y, ya sabes, las situaciones donde, porque de la factura de que es casi cuerpo a cuerpo confrontación, tenemos que llamar a la aeropuerto, a los helicópteros, a la artillería, solo para preparar el grano antes de entrar ahí. Y si lo hicimos, creo que el daño colateral que sucedió no hubiera sucedido en todo. Tenemos 9 soldados que fueron matados. Y luego, puedes ver que han estado muy altos de los oficiales, lo que significa que esto es exactamente lo que la armada israelí está prestando todo el tiempo. Los oficiales van al frente y dicen, te vienes detrás de mí. Y nos vamos primero y luego te vienes después de nosotros. Esto es exactamente lo que enseñamos en nuestros colegios, en nuestras escuelas militares. Y esto es lo que tenemos en los centros. Entonces, esos oficiales que murieron y los soldados, que acompañaron, nos han dado el ejemplo de cómo combinar y dónde combinar. Y esto es una enseñanza para continuar en su camino. Y esperamos que los soldados no serán olvidados, pero que la victoria, al final de esta guerra, también celebrarán los factores que fueron parte de esta campaña gloriosa. Y, Aví, el corazón es tan grave en el país ahora mismo, en los funerales para los soldados muriendo, defendiendo su país. Te vas a llevar en la pálsara ahora, el sentimiento en el país en este día. No, estás bien, Benita. Es un día muy triste para Israel. Puedes sentirlo todo donde vas. Puedes hablar solo sobre eso. Y esto es una tragedia para la familia y para el país, para el país también. Pero, de lo que digo, el espíritu en Israel permanece resoluido. La gente sabe que estamos pagando un precio grave y que si queremos realmente lograr nuestro objetivo, es una guerra longa. Desde el día 1, todo el presidente de la armadura, el nivel político, será una guerra longa, pero es importante intentar y tener cuidado a la Hamas, porque hay una cosa que es, por supuesto, si terminamos esa guerra y la Hamas está aún en la dirección de Gaza, entonces no es una victoria. Y necesitamos alguna vez, y espero que llegamos a la hora que necesitamos, porque necesitamos alguna vez, necesitamos ser, como Col. Neria ha dicho, quizás tener cuidado, no a las aventuras, pero necesitamos tiempo, necesitamos limpiar la Gaza desde la Hamas. Esto es una guerra longa. ¿Cuál es el impacto, Jacques, de la presión de la broma, específicamente desde el U.S., detrás de las escenas, para llegar a la fin de esta guerra, tan rápido como posible? ¿Es esta decisión impactada en la tierra, tus ideas? Definitivamente, definitivamente. La actitud del U.S. es una componente importante en la decisión de Israel. Y nosotros escuchamos diferentes voces que vienen de los Estados Unidos. En la otra mano, queremos que la Hamas redicate, en el otro lado, hacer lo que sea posible, no matar a los civilizados que están en el costumbre. Y, por lo tanto, ponen algunas reglas de engañamiento que es imposible de la visión de Israel, porque esto no es el modo en el que vayas a la guerra. Vayamos a la guerra por preguntar a las personas entre nosotros y el enemigo solo para evacuar. Hemos preguntado a ellos varias veces y antes de que vayamos a un asunto. Y no podemos aceptar lo que los americanos nos están diciendo. Justo, according a los americanos, en el 10 de junio, vamos a estar fuera, deberíamos estar fuera de Gaza. Esto es lo que tienen en su mente, que la guerra ha terminado, lo que hemos logrado, lo que hemos logrado. Y ahora es la hora de reorganizar. Y vamos a aceptar operaciones, operaciones de comando, directas contra los tarjetos de Hamas. Pero no aceptaremos la presencia militar de Israel durante mucho tiempo en Gaza. Esto es lo que Salivan viene a hablar con nosotros. Esto es lo que el narrativo de la administración americana es que no deberíamos ser responsables de Gaza. Vamos a tener cuidado de tu problema, tu problema de seguridad, pero te llevarás a Gaza. Si terminas, si terminas, terminas luego. Y Jake Salivan, como dices, llegará en el país mañana. Vamos a ver un poco más sobre esa reunión. Pero ahora, vamos a pasar a nuestro señor, correspondiente de Defensa, Jonathan Regev. Y él nos acompaña desde el sur de Israel. Jonathan, estamos discutiendo este desplazamiento para Israel. Tienes soldados israelíos con la idea de la muerte en la operación de la tierra a 115. ¿Qué es lo más tarde en la guerra dentro de la Gaza? ¿Qué podemos decir a nosotros en esta hora? Sí, por supuesto. Es una noche muy difícil con esa operación en Sojaía. En el principio del mundo, hay un montón de críticas en la armadura israelía sobre por qué la operación se desplazó mucho. Una de las razones es intentar y evitar como mucho posible estas operaciones. Hay un gran entendimiento que el Hamas se entendió muy bien que después de los eventos de octubre 7, Israel va a invadir la gaza. Hay preparaciones y la armadura israelía quería crear un plan en el que estos eventos sucedieron lo menos posible. ¿Qué es posible? Creo que hasta ahora la IDF fue capaz de preventar estas operaciones, pero no se puede preventar siempre. Por eso es por eso el avance es consciente, el avance es cuento y sencillo, pero no se puede preventar siempre. Recuerden, hay otro lado y no son tan suficientes y asesorables como algunos de Israel están pensando. Y crearon este avance que fue suficientemente suficientemente para ellos cuatro soldados fueron asesinados dentro de la casa y luego en la operación para rescatarles más soldados fueron asesinados. Hay una preocupación que estos soldados fueron abducados, asesinados simplemente porque no había comunicación con ellos y resultó una operación larga. Ahora hay preguntas incluso dentro de la armada si todas estas operaciones serán directas del aire si todos estos lugares serán targetados del aire en vez de enviar soldados dentro y ponerlos en riesgo. En el otro lado querrán evitar el riesgo a los soldados como mucho posible. En el otro lado cuando los soldados venen ellos pueden arrestar a las personas ellos pueden tener inteligencia. En el final no hay nada mejor que el avance en el grado y las preguntas que la armada now has to ask itself. And Jonathan we've been talking as well about the fact that White House national security advisor Jake Sullivan will be here tomorrow said to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu and obviously on the table is going to be those US efforts to pressurize Israel to dial back its bombing of Gaza. That's the sentiment out of the United States. To talk to us about the importance of the messaging from the Biden administration right now how it is going to impact. ¿Qué es lo que está pasando atrás de ti dentro de la barra, si en todo? So we just said that when you bomb from the air, then you minimize the risk to your soldiers, right? That's on one hand. On the other hand, when you bomb from the air, then of course there's a much bigger risk for danger for the civilian population, and that is something that the American administration wants to minimize. What do you do? How do you play around with that? These are some of the concerns for the American administration, on the other hand, on one hand, which wants to minimize the risk for civilians in Gaza as much as possible, but on the other hand the Israeli army knows that when you send in your soldiers inside instead of bombing from the air, you put your soldiers in danger, it's a very delicate game there between Jerusalem and Washington. Thank you so much. Senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev live from Southern Israel, and we will be unpacking more of those details coming up very shortly. But now let's take a closer look at the response out of the United States. President Joe Biden saying his administration has no plans to place conditions on the military aid it is providing to Israel despite those growing calls by some democratic lawmakers and human rights groups for the US to stop providing weapons unless Israel does more to protect civilians in Gaza. The US leader telling democratic donors in Washington this week he had some tough conversations with Benjamin Netanyahu about Israel's operation, how Israel is losing international support and the need for a two-state solution led by the Palestinian Authority. US officials pointing out to CNN that Israel embeds military lawyers with IDF units who determined beforehand whether a strike will be proportional and legal. Separately, Biden was asked about reports that Israel has started pumping seawater into Hamas tunnels in Gaza. Let's take a listen. With regard to the flooding of the tunnels, there is assertions being made that there is quite sure there are no hostages in any of these tunnels, but I don't know that for a fact. I do know that every civilian death is an absolute tragedy and Israel stated its intent, as I said, to match its intent with war with actions. That's why I was talking about today. And still in studio, retired colonel Dr. Jacques Neria and former ambassador Avi Pazner and Avi, I'm going to come to you about the different messaging coming out of the Biden administration right now. And how you view it, given your history in diplomacy and in dealing with the United States, your take on what we are hearing out of Washington. I think that you are hearing noises of impatience. They are different. First of all, let us be very clear. The United States gives us 100% military and diplomatic support for the time being. The great question. They are true. They are diversion. Are we taking enough care of the civilian population? Do we let enough humanitarian aid in? But the main question is not there. The main question are the differences over what will happen the day after. That's the main difference. And there is where I think that there is a little bit loss of patience on the side of the administration. Tomorrow, Salivan is arriving. Next week, Secretary of Defense Austin is also arriving. I mean, we will have to see if we can reach common ground with our American friends on the day after. Because, you know, the position now, just to say no to everything, that's not a position. We have to work out something with the Americans. I mean, when you say you don't want not an international force. You don't want the Palestinian Authority. You want to be able to defend yourself within Gaza. What do you want to occupy Gaza? The Israeli government has to formulate, and as quickly as possible, a policy for the day after, because the day after, I hope, will come. We will win this war, hopefully, and the day after will come. And we have to continue to work together with the Americans. We are dependent on them. It's not maybe the best of feelings to be like that and to say we are dependent. Right now, every day, we get ammunition and arms. Every day, we get diplomatic backing. We have to work out a policy together with this administration. White House National Security Advisor Jake Salivan here tomorrow, as we've been discussing, Austin gets here a bit after that. But as much as the discussion and the debate, and sometimes heated debate, centers around the day after, right now, there is an existential threat shock. And that clearly needs to be the focus for the IDF on the ground. When meetings happen between Benjamin Netanyahu and these visiting US diplomats and officials, no matter how high ranking, surely the focus is on eliminating the threat A and B, getting back 135 hostages. Netanyahu, you're definitely right. Or you're right completely. I mean, the IDF has to perform. It has to prove that it is able to eradicate Hamas. And this is the main job of the army in parallel. We have to continue to rescue the hostages by means of negotiations or by operations that are on the ground. This is something that we have a national debt. We cannot end this war with the hostages that are still in the hands of Hamas. We cannot end this war also with Hezbollah looking at our windows in the northern part of Lebanon. This is impossible. Now, Avi said earlier about the impatience of the Americans. Y viene porque de las declaraciones de nuestro primer ministro, y se preguntó varias veces qué es su visión sobre lo que habría sucedido el día después. Finalmente, él dijo, yo veo una administración civil. Esto es un atema. ¿Qué significa administración civil? ¿Es una administración civil o una administración de forma civil? ¿Qué tipo de administración? Los americanos son justificados por lo que fue dicho. Y esta es definitivamente una línea de confrontación entre nosotros y los americanos. Porque los americanos lo han dicho desde el día 1. No hay ocupación. Podemos cuidar de tu seguridad, sus necesidades, etcétera. Pero no es una presencia israelíca y la fuerza ocupada en Gaza, como en los días antes de Oslo. Esto es por eso que tenemos que hablar y hablar con los americanos que también están escondidos. Escondidos, nuestros hogares son vis-à-vis de Hezbollah. Se han preguntado desde el día 1 no para ampliar el conflicto con Hezbollah. No para ponerlo en conflicto regional. Pero el hecho es que Hezbollah es el otro lado de Israel. Él hace lo que quiera. Y él expande sus actividades y arreglan dentro de Israel. Él llega a Acco. Él llega a Bereda-Galir. Y esta es definitivamente más de cuatro kilómetros que tuvimos en el principio. Y Israel no ha respondido en forma. Entonces, ¿qué debería de Israel estar haciendo al norte ahora mismo debido a exactamente a ese estrés que estás hablando? Para cada estrés que llegamos de Hezbollah, Hezbollah debería recibir 10 estrés, al menos. Al menos. Y deberíamos armar, deberíamos hacer todos esos lebaníos viviendo desde el Litani a la borda internacional con Israel, sólo evacuar el lugar. Y esto no es solo nuestro lado que debe ser evacuado. Tienen que ser evacuados y crear una situación en la que no hay tierra. Es una zona de demilitaría. Y luego podemos hablar de un arrégeno con Hezbollah. Las cosas de vosotros son exactamente eso. La manera en que el U.S. impacta las decisiones de Israel y el hecho de que ahora mismo al norte, ese estrés existe cuando hablamos de Hezbollah en el sur de Lebanon. Creo que debe ser una secuencia de eventos. Y no hemos perdido la paciencia. De nuevo, esta es una guerra longa. Estamos en el lugar longo. Tenemos que, ya sabes, el Armamento ha describido como 2024, como un guerrero. No significa que tiene que ser como hoy, pero es una situación de la guerra. Primero, Benito, tenemos que obtener una caída claramente en Gaza. Eso es lo primero. Porque si no llegamos a eso, si no podemos liquidar la liderazgo militar y político de Hamas y su agresión en Gaza, nada más va a suceder. Una vez que esto está terminado, tendremos que hablar con Hezbollah. Y tenemos en nuestro disposal un tool diplomático que es esta resolución de la UN de 2006, 1701, que stipula que Hezbollah no debería estar en el norte de Lytani. Ahora, el problema es, ¿cómo se conviene a Hezbollah que van a Lytani? Así que, primero de todo, una caída militar, una caída claramente en Gaza. Y luego, tenemos que aplicar la presión militar en Hezbollah para el Lebanon para concluir, de nuevo, para implementar 1701. Tenemos solo una secuencia. Voy a diferir. 1701 habla de abalucar a todos los militares en el Lebanon y Hezbollah no debería commit suicidación. Definitivamente no. Esto es lo que pasa. No hay gobierno en el Lebanon, no hay presidente en el Lebanon, no hay chief de la armadura y no hay primer ministerio en el Lebanon. Todos esos son transiciones, excepto para el presidente que es vacante. Vacante desde octubre, ¿con quién vas a signar un acuerdo? Este gobierno no puede signar ningún acuerdo porque de la Constitución de Libertad. Así que, nosotros estamos hablando de nonsens. Bueno, esto no es lo más optimista de notas sobre la que finalizar esta discusión. Pero, como dices, es un gran detalle. Y nos esperamos, de nuevo, para noticias en esos hosteges dentro del barrio de Gaza, en esta hora, 135 hosteges. Eso es la prioridad, además, eliminar el alcalde de Hamas y luego, como dices, lidiar con los desarrollamientos. No, eso es antes de que even comemos en las proxies iranianias de Yemen. Pero estamos fuera de tiempo para ahora. Dr. Jacques Nerea, muchas gracias a todos. Gracias, Abipaz Nerea, former ambassador. Muchas gracias a todos. Muchas gracias. Gracias por estar aquí en esta edición de noticias en el barrio de Gaza. Y, como la guerra continúa, ¿só la campaña para reliciar los hosteges israelíes como hablábamos? 135 hombres, mujeres y niños aún siendo capturados. Uno de ellos es el 21-year-old Joshua Morel Frontan Zanier, que vio por un corto periodo para que Giput's Nachal Oz y fue abductado por Hamas en el 7 de octubre, corresponde a Orisha Perra en su historia. ¿Habéis escuchado el chacón de Joshua Morel? No. No he escuchado mucho, pero he escuchado muchas palabras. No, no lo he escuchado. ¿Quién es? Entre los docentes de hosteges que aún fueron capturados por Hamas en Gaza, uno parece estar más afuera del publico. Su nombre es Joshua Morel. Es el 21-year-old estudiante de Tanzania, que vio a Israel como voluntario y estuvo en Giput's Nachal Oz. Vio en Israel only a few days before the Hamas onslaught on October 7. Yo conocí a Joshua totally by coincidence. He worked in our dairy farm. I once gave him a ride and we talked for a bit. I know that he was kidnapped and just like any other hostage he is dear to us and we want him to return. One of the few organizations which is in touch with Joshua's family is the hotline of refugees and migrants. Sigal Rosen, the media coordinator of the center, says Joshua's situation is unique. The families of those who don't live here, it is so much difficult because first of all they have no knowledge about the situation. They have no knowledge about Gaza. They have no knowledge about Hamas. They have no contact with other people in similar situation and they don't know what can be done to bring back their beloved son. I24 News had the chance to ask Joshua's father about his son. Rosen says that ever since October 7 she has assisted many migrants and foreign workers suffering a severe crisis. He was talking to a rocket attack and while I was talking to him I told him I am just looking for a wall here that they can stand behind because there is a rocket attack. I told him you can hear the siren and he said wow and he was in a kind of panic because for him a rocket attack reminded him immediately of October 7 and I told him you know we have this rocket attack every day and sometimes we have it twice a day and I started explaining to him about the Iron Dawn and how it's not as if every day we experience the whole...