 Awesome! And the madness continues! All right guys, welcome back to the channel. If you knew, my name is Bobby. Guys, today we're going to talk about Patrick Baboumian and Robert Oberst. So, if you don't know, Patrick Baboumian is a vegan strongman and Robert Oberst is a real strongman. So, those two guys had a little fallout, they had a little back and forth. The reason being Robert Oberst was on the Joe Rogan experience. And on the Joe Rogan experience, Robert Oberst decided to tell the truth basically and say that Patrick Baboumian is not a world-class strongman. To get you up to speed, here is the clip. Now, what about food? What kind of diet are you guys on? We all basically eat the exact same thing. We all eat a ton of meat and rice and we do a lot of peppers and stuff like that. No one's vegan? No, no, no. What is that one guy that Patrick with the fox's name? There's a vegan strongman I've heard of. I don't remember his name, but he's never been the world's strongest man. Oh, I am fucking growing old plants, old plants. From what I recall, he's never even been invited to World's Strongest Man. So, it's bullshit. Yeah, I mean you can say a lot of things like this guy say he broke a record in some powerlifting competition that was in a guy's backyard, right? And they call that a world record. And then all of a sudden now he's a world record strength athlete because his buddy in his backyard said so. All right, now that you saw that, Patrick Magoumian just released his What I Eat in a Day video. And today I'm going to react first to his What I Eat in a Day and then we will watch Robert Oberst's What I Eat in a Day video. And in the end, we're going to do the chronometer breakdown so you guys can see which diet is truly superior. Then I start the day off by taking my supplements. I'm dividing the supplements into three different portions. One for the morning, one for the midday and then one for the evening. All right, big surprise. A vegan that starts out his day like a patient, like a sick person. Awesome. You know a couple of months back I would look at this and I would probably laugh and I would probably make a joke. Ha ha ha, so funny. He's eating like an elderly person. He's eating like a cancer patient. But it is not funny at all. Honestly, looking at this, it is just saddening to see. A man that relies on so many supplements, medicine, chemicals, whatever you might want to call them, in order to cope with his artificially created diet. A diet that is not suitable for a carnivorous animal, aka Homo sapiens. Because he cannot cope with that diet, he needs to eat isolated forms and synthetically created vitamins, minerals. Of course, he has to start his day with B12. He needs iron because most vegans are anemic. And he needs zinc, of course, because zinc is not readily available on a vegan diet. So this is how he starts out his day. And that is really saddening. And not only is it saddening, but it's alarming, or at least it should be. Kids watch his videos and they take him as a role model, right? The vegan badass. What a nice guy. Super compassionate and strong. He's a junkie. If you rely on 15 different medicines just to get your day started, you are a junkie. In the mornings I have B12, iron and nutritional yeast. And in the midday I have, again, nutritional yeast, calcium and more di-vitamin. And then in the evening I have nutritional yeast again, magnesium, zinc and di-vitamin. I'm going to probably make another video at some point where I explain which kind of supplements I take and why I take them. I think this would kind of explode this video. Awesome. As if that what we just saw there is not enough. No, actually guys, if you really want to see my supplement list, check it out. I'm going to do an extended video on it. A video only for you, my vegan fans that want to be just like me and want to consume not 15, not 20, 500 pills every single morning to be healthy for the animals. I'm just keeping on mentioning what I take and then I take a few more supplements that I put into my shakes and smoothies. This is better than expected. So the first shake that I have in the morning is a protein shake. I mix it with water. Awesome. And the madness continues. It's not enough to chuck down all those pills. Now we need some protein. As we already know, plants do not have protein. Exactly, right? Or at least the protein is not available to us because it is captured in all of that plant fiber. So what do we do? We keep on supplementing, right? Second meal of the day. First for breakfast, we have some pills and then we're going to flush it down with some soy protein isolate. But because that is not enough either, we still haven't really replicated meat. What do we do? Exactly, we chuck down some creatine. I have 80 grams of protein in it. I have about 5 grams of creatine in it and just a few grams of better aluminum. Jesus Christ. Okay, that looks like food to anyone out there. Is it just me? Is it me, the anti-vegan? That thinks that this looks like shit? Come on guys, please. All the vegans out there, please. Comment section, comment section, please comment down below. Does this look like food to you? And again, thumbs up. Thumbs up to what exactly? Why do you thumb this up? Wow, another shock in this video. Smoothie, really. I have never seen a vegan drink a smoothie before. Black currants from the backyard and frozen mixed fruits, protein powder. By the way, the protein is soy isolate, but I switch from time to time and try different things. I sometimes also use pea protein isolate or a blend of different plant-based proteins. I always try to switch and mix it up a little bit. Then we have glutamine. We have better aluminum. Again, 5 grams of creatine. Dried greens. Okay, stop. What is this? What is this? Why do you need dried greens? What health benefit is in dried greens? Concentrated oxalates. What is in there? Again, the creatine, the glutamine, BCAAs, branch-chain amino acids. For what? Because your plants do not have enough branch-chain amino acids. Let's supplement it with a synthetic version and some more soy protein isolate. Turmeric. Real cinnamon. Real cinnamon. Is there fake cinnamon? Do I miss something? Why do you need a bunch of turmeric and cinnamon? Just excitotoxins to further poison yourself as if the plants are not enough. For antioxidants and BCAAs, 5 to 10 grams. And orange and mango juice. Yes, and to top it off, more sugar, right? Mango and oranges. Of course, because all of those fruits, it's not enough. We need more sugar. The vegan diet is a diet suitable for sugar junkies. That should be the World Health Organization statement. Not suitable for everyone, but suitable for sugar junkies. Again, is this food? Am I looking at food? What is this in the blender? Can anybody explain that? Please, vegan or not? Please comment down below. What am I looking at? This looks like some sort of science experiment gone wrong. This is not food. What is this guy doing? He's three meals in and it's still not food. So up to this point, my body has received 160 grams of protein and 100 grams of carbs and all of that in liquid form. As I want to prevent any stress on my digestive system. Yeah, of course. To prevent any extra stress on your digestive system. Man, it's so fucking sad. Those people know that something is seriously wrong. You won't get digestive issues if you would eat meat, right? As long as you eat clean food, meat, fish, eggs, in concoction even with some healthy clean starchy carbohydrates. You won't get digestive issues. But as a vegan, you already know that something is wrong and therefore we're just going to drink our synthetic soy slop to not get digestive upset. Amazing diet. So I'm fit for training before I hit it and then afterwards I want nutrients to be fast so I can switch to recovery quickly. What nutrients? Now let's have some real food. Let's have some real food. Fries. About two hours after the smoothie I prepare my next meal, which is lunch. Tomatoes filled with goitrogens. Great choice. Herbs in a ton of salt to make them somewhat palatable. So this is the first solid food for the day. Some more oxalates on top. Sprinkle it on. It's mainly comprised of leftovers from my birthday party a few days ago. What the fuck is this? What am I looking at? Soy sausage, falafel and fries. Why do you do that to yourself? Why do you do that to yourself? More isolated soy proteins in that soy sausage. Super unhealthy. Everybody knows that. Falafel probably fried. And fries. Actual fries. So we have vegan sausages. Falafel. Low-fat oven fries. Of course a ton of peppers. Grilled peppers. I usually always have something to say. But I'm really lost for words. Do I need to tell you now that this is shit? This is the first real food. And it's missing all the nutrients that your body requires for perfect regeneration. You're eating some fries. Absolute shitty carbohydrates. The worst problem. Right? You're eating some goitrogen-containing tomatoes. Then you have some super fried bell peppers. Super cancerous. And then you have soy sausage and falafel. Great bro. Awesome. Keep promoting this healthy diet to our children. Great job. And other carbohydrates. So in terms of macros this gives us 60 grams of protein. 250 grams of carbs. And 90 grams of fats. It's actually really shocking to see him here. He lost all of his gains. Musculature-wise. He lost pretty much all of it. And he just got fat. After the walk I will wait for half an hour or so. And then I'll have another protein shake. And another shake. Yes. Great diet. Yeah. We live in times of absolute food scarcity. It's not like you could walk into the supermarket Patrick and get a steak. It's impossible. This is what people in the modern western world will do to themselves. It is really that insane. With all the food abundance that our forefathers had fought for now we're just going to go in reverse. And we're going to starve ourselves as if we do not have enough food. 60 grams of protein and 15 grams of fat. So these are the integrants for my next meal. Basically veggies, tofu and cooked potato. Fantastic. Next meal just a bunch of nightshades and phytoestrogen latent soy blocks. But that is not enough either. We're going to spice it up. We're going to top it off with processed vegetable oils. And the thumbs up again. Yes. It looks so great. It looks disgusting. It looks absolutely repulsive. Why in the hell would anybody eat this? And let's be honest here. I'm going to confess. I ate the same shit myself. I ate the same whole food. Plain based diet. If you even can call tofu a whole food. I was eating the same shit. I was eating the same processed protein powders to make the gains. I myself saw there is no other way. On a whole food plant based diet you can't eat another way. If you eat only beans and grains you won't absorb the protein. So therefore you will have to rely on processed foods. The soy protein powders and the tofu. All of those foods are generally eaten in really small quantities. In Asia I lived in Thailand. Small tiny bits of tofu. Nobody would ever ever in their life rely on tofu as a protein source. But Patrick shows us how it is done correctly. Okay. So this is meal number 5. It has 40 grams of protein. 100 grams of carbs. And about 15 grams of fat. That mainly comes from the curry paste that I put on the zucchini to make the meal a little bit more fun. To make the meal a little bit more fun. Yeah because it is already so much fun right? Man let's be honest. That looks like a plate of sadness. Absolute sad. Just dead food. All of those plants have to be cooked of course to make them somewhat available. Some what digestible. And they are still far from digesting. Well of course. But nevertheless you will have to cook the shit out of those nightshades and the process soy in order to absorb a little. It is absolutely nonsensical. Why would you eat this? And that's a fake smile. My last main meal I'm going to have another snack later on in the night. In the evening I'm going to be peanuts and I'm going to get another 50 grams of protein there. More inflammatory omega-6's paired with aflotoxins. Absolutely fantastic choice. Go for it. And then I finished the day with protein shake. What else right? What else? I actually thought it's going to be fun to record this video. I was looking forward to it and I was kind of excited about that we have a protein shake here. Smoothie there. We can make fun of the vegans. But now looking at it is just absolutely pathetic. Honestly how many shakes did you just drink? Because it wasn't enough I have to drink another protein shake in order to show that vegans can get enough protein. No you're not showing anything. You're not showing shit because this is not food. Anybody can gulp down a tub of protein powder and pretend that their diet has enough protein. What the hell are you doing? Just before I go to bed and that's another 50 grams of protein. Okay so that was our day we have 410 grams of protein over the day we have 470 grams of carbs we have 200 grams of fats overall we have 5,320 calories Alright thank god that is over. Now we're going to see some real food. We're going to check out Robert's what I eat in a day unfortunately we do not have a full days of eating video here but we do have a reference range. After that I'm going to compare both their diets on chronometer. A normal trip to the grocery store I'll go through and I'll get my vegetables. Spinach is my favorite green. If it worked for Popeye it could work for a strongman. Unfortunately I have to critique Robert here as well straight away he bought into the lie that we need greens to be healthy spinach is oxalate ridden. Absolutely shit. If you want to have kidney stones go for it. I'm talking about rice. This bag right here probably lasts me about a week. Back of rice as I said many many times before white rice is very easily digestible and therefore into strength sports such as strongman or body building. This is the right carb source for you. On a typical day I'll consume anywhere between 15 and 20,000 calories. Alright eggs eggs eggs. First protein source and a great choice. Eggs. Absolute classic and very good one. Of course for muscle building and overall health eggs are fantastic. A great source for B vitamins vitamin A, vitamin D, K2 and what not. Eggs are a fantastic protein source. This right here will last me a day normally. I eat 8 to 10 eggs for breakfast. I eat boiled eggs for snacks throughout the day. Lots of eggs. Running out of room. We gotta get a ton of meat. I'll do two of these for one lunch. Again great choice fatty cuts of meat. Now buying it off the supermarket is that the right way to go? No me personally. I source everything from ethical farms or from the butcher. That is my only critique point here. But on its own this guy knows what he is doing. Intuitively consciously subconsciously does not matter. The choice is right. All of those cuts contain a lot of vitamins, minerals and nutrients that you won't find in isolated soy protein or tofu. For these. Nice, nice, nice. We're basically going to take all of their pork. All this turkey. This one will be my meat for the day. Basically cleaning out the meat section. See the emphasis on meat? This man knows what he is talking about. If we follow our instincts and if we follow basic sport nutrition we already know what works. Tons and tons and tons of meat. Everything's good here. I think I took all your meat over here. I am a strong man. I just came from the gym. Nice, nice. So you basically do what I do but you don't need all the meat. See what look is enough and he knows that that lady is not eating enough meat. No, 25, 26. Oh God, I love this meat. It's got two different types of noodles. Two sauces, two salsas then sausage and your beef and that's a pretty good meal. That is a pretty good meal indeed. This man understands what real food is. Of course, as I said as a strength athlete you will need carbohydrates. Now he chose some pasta. Again, pretty easily digestible. Me personally not a fan of gluten but not an enemy either. If you digest it well go for it and he combines it with fatty cuts of meat and of course no excessive amounts of vegetables either because we all know that that fiber will lead to digestive distress especially if you're eating a lot of calories like those strong men need to do. Patrick Baboumian ignores his instincts, he ignores his gut he ignores basic physiology and chooses vegetables over meat as a strong man. Vegan logic. My dad made it when I was a kid and his dad made it for him. Now it seems like every time the recipe gets passed down to a new generation it changes a little bit and now we're grilling got our sausage going, got our beef going. We are rocking and rolling. The true tradition of the pasta is not the food it's the gathering of people. The gathering of people see we have an actual human here, an actual human that understands what food is about. The bonding experience over meat that cannot be underestimated. If you just compare those two guys not even the food that they're eating but just how they come across. You see a happy, happy guy here man. A real human lifting heavy ass shit eating real food and then you see synthetic Patrick. Smells so good. I love the smell of sausage while it's cooking you know. Of course you'll love the smell of sausage man. The best smelling meat there is you know gotta taste good and it's gotta have a high property of protein. Exactly, again common sense. Has to taste good and has to have high property of protein. It's that simple man. This is what bodybuilders and strong men do. Everybody else is lying to you and to their own bosses. Ridiculous. This is a really good meal for a strong man so you know the fact that it tastes good makes it just super food for me. My wife she'll eat about three quarters of a pound of meat a day. I'll eat three and a half pounds. Exactly roundabout 20 eggs and three and a half pounds of meat. Solid. There we go. Now all that's left is to add the sauces. It looks pretty much done. Everybody let's eat this right here. So just add a nice hard workout. Get a bunch of good meats, good carbs right here. Again, good meats and good carbs. Yes, should be common sense. Eat this down. Feel nice and good. Take a nap. Wake up. Feel like Superman. This is super food for Superman. Right on Robert. Super food for Superman a man that truly knows what he's doing. Obviously otherwise he wouldn't be among the world's strongest men. So now guys, let us check out his day of eating. Actually eating, not slurping down smoothies and shakes and check it out in chronometer. After that I'm going to show you how Patrick's day of eating looks like. Alright guys and we are in chronometer as you just saw we didn't have a full days of eating. Therefore I had to gather information on the internet from several pages to piece together a full days of eating and this is what I came up with. We have 20 large eggs. We have orange juice freshly squeezed. We have 18 ounces of ribeye steak. We have one kilogram of minced beef. We have six cups of white rice. We have 11 cups of pasta. One bunch of spinach. Four pork sausages. We have 400 grams of marinara sauce and two large potatoes. All of this is adjusted for the weight of Robert Oberst which is a shocking 6 foot 7 and 410 pounds. Jesus Christ. That is crazy. So with all of this eaten we reach 14,342 kcal 731 grams of protein I have to laugh here. 1892 grams almost 2 kilograms of carbohydrates and 425 grams of fat. This absolutely redonkles. So needless to say if you eat that much no matter what you eat. Even if you would eat potatoes for that day you would pretty much get all of your RDAs covered and of course go beyond. Anyways we still gonna browse through quickly so as you can see carbs are of course covered fat is covered as well. You can see a lot of saturated fat consumed and we have to critique here that he consumed more omega 6's than omega 3's. I would definitely recommend to eat more fish if possible raw. Protein do we really have to talk about that? Of course not. All the measurements are in 800% to 1200% range. So this dude definitely doesn't have to worry about protein. Same goes for the B vitamins for the vitamin A, vitamin D E, E, K. Everything is well well covered and beyond. An absolute excess of course. And the same goes for the minerals. So guys to sum this up of course this man gets enough nutrients that's his least concern. Of course it is not healthy either to eat this way and I am sure that Robert knows that for himself Robert is eating for function to be the strongest man on this planet and therefore we need an excess that is just what it is. But in terms of healthy of course it is not healthy to consume around about 15.000 calories nevertheless all the nutrients are derived from real food. Now let's check up Patrick's full day of eating and again everything is counted for his weight. Last time I checked was around about 120 kilos even though I have to assume that he lost even more weight and his height is 5 foot 7. So substantially lighter and shorter of course than Robert. Okay so guys as you just saw in Robert's case I didn't list any supplements and I am not going to list the 100 pills that Patrick consumed we have no proof that those supplements truly work. But for his sake I am still going to list the soy protein isolate so at least we can see what Patrick tries to achieve here. But don't you worry once we have all the measurements I am going to show you his full day of eating without protein powders as well. Alright so what do we got 90 grams of soy protein isolate 100 grams of black currants we have around about 250 grams of mixed tropical frozen fruit. Of course you always crave frozen stuff when you are anemic and we top it off with some mango orange juice around about 2 cups. Then surprise surprise we have soy protein isolate again and 2 soy sausages and of course farlarful 5 pieces we top all of that up with 500 grams of french fries and some tomatoes red bell peppers and continue to gulp down on soy protein isolate with flag seed oil. Then we have 2 baked potatoes some zucchini some red bell peppers again and some curry paste for our protein needs we gonna choose tofu. Great choice Patrick. Alright and we gonna continue with more omega 6 plant oils in forms of peanuts and then as you already know we gonna end the day with more soy protein isolate. So that leads us to around about 5000 calories and around about 400 grams of protein 390 grams of carbohydrates and almost 200 grams of oils The reason why I say oils and not fats is because we do not find any real animal fats in plants. It's all oils. So let's check this out. Doesn't look too bad at the first glance right? I am aware that both athletes probably drink water but you can see that the food itself doesn't contain much water content in Patrick's case here because he cooks everything that food is very very dehydrating. To keep it 100% honest here both athletes have around about the same amount of fiber. If you eat that amount of plant foods you will run into issues either way Here you can see the omega 6 to 3 ratio is out of whack as well. On top of that the problematic factor that all of that is simply plant oils. It doesn't even matter that Patrick added some oil to the mix. He simply won't get enough animal fats. And you can see that in the saturated fat area that Patrick doesn't get enough saturated fats So by the looks of it he is getting plenty of protein yeah obviously because he chucked down 4 massive shakes. And let's be honest 90 gram. That is not a shake serving. That is 3 shakes. Here we have 90 gram shakes which equals 6 protein shakes and then he had around about 60 grams of shakes which is 2 serving each. Which equals 4 protein shakes So that means he drank 13 protein shakes that day to get enough protein as a vegan. So obviously he is lacking B12 in the vitamin section and vitamin D that no vegan can get no matter how efficient his conversion rate is. And chronometer shows good mineral stats as well. So you might think Bobby what's the fucking point we can see that this guy eats enough and he gets all his minerals and vitamins. Guys as I said those foods are problematic because they don't deliver any quality fats that is out of the window. And on top of that all of this is synthetic and artificial. Of course you can trick chronometer but you cannot trick common sense. If you see this stuff on chronometer you might think yeah that looks great. He gets all his vitamins and minerals. The question is of course the conversion rate. But you know what? Why should we play Patrick's vegan game? I didn't list any supplements for Robert Oberst. So now we're gonna step it up a notch and we're gonna delete all the soy protein sludge and without the soy protein we see that Patrick drops 1000 calories. So this dude really drinks 1000 of calories in forms of supplements. So let's check it out now. What do we got? 4000 calories and we only have 130 grams of protein left. The rest stays of course the same. 390 carbs and 180 grams of fats. But let's have a look what is truly left in our chronometer breakdown. So as you can see Patrick gets a miniscule amount of BCAAs. Yes I know chronometer shows that he got enough. Absolutely. Why do you need more? Because he is a strength athlete. This chronometer breakdown only displays what you would need to survive. But we're talking about world class strength athlete here. This is what Patrick aspires to be. And with a measly amount of 4.5 grams of easel lucin or 5 grams of lysine, barely 8 grams of lucin you won't make the gains. And this is why this man relies on protein powders and BCAAs. Listen guys I'm not against supplements not at all. But they are supplements additions to your food and not replacements and even the supplement companies will agree with this tiny amount of 130 grams of protein a man of 120 kilos won't make any gains. A man of 120 kilograms needs at least 240 grams of protein to make any substantial strength gains. Patrick knows that and therefore he has to live on a synthetic artificially supplemented diet. Alright guys and this sums it up now you saw what each athlete ate and how it looked like in chronometer with and without supplements. The reason why I make this video is to shed some light on the issue that we have with so called vegan athletes. Nobody can be a vegan athlete. This is something that has to be understood. As a vegan you are already killing more animals than carnivores. That is a simple fact that vegans are still in denial of but nevertheless it is the truth. Once you understand that plant production creates more deaths then you won't eat more of those plants. If Patrick Baboumian would eat some fish, some meat instead of his soy proteins instead of his tofu blocks he would be more vegan and more ethical than he is right now. But people do not understand it. This is why veganism is a religion. A religion that is dangerous. A religion that endangers our children. Can't you see what is going on here? Which mother wants for her children to become a vegan athlete? No one because they would have to eat artificial food. Simple as that. If you want to chill on the beach and do some yoga, yeah I get it then you can get away with a little bit of fruit, a little bit of plants here and there to get by but once you want to thrive, once you want to get out there, kick some ass you will need real nutrition and what do you do then? Only eating beans, grains you won't get enough protein you will have to rely on synthetic powders or processed foods. This is why vegan bodybuilders eat beyond meat. They are advertising for that dog shit. It is the worst food I don't even want to call it food on this planet but you have to rely on it because otherwise you won't get to the protein. The proteins are encapsulated in the indigestible fiber. What don't you understand? It is frustrating to see as athletes or as strong people we will have to rely on artificial food. Don't you understand that? And the end goal is lab grown meat. Do you get this? Vegans you are pushing for lab grown meat. No matter if you want to eat it or not pretty soon you will. We know exactly that around about 90% are dropping out of veganism sooner or later. You will be an ex vegan and then there will be no meat and then you will have to eat lab grown meat. That is your choice. Do you understand what dangerous agenda you are pushing here? This is why I make this video. Guys, if you enjoy this video, yes please leave it a thumbs up. But the most effective method to spread this message is of course share the videos with your friends on Facebook, Instagram and what not. Guys, we have to share this message otherwise we will live in a world where we will be forced to eat soy sludge. Me personally, I don't want to live in such a world. And this is why I make those videos to spread awareness. Alright guys, but this it for today's video as always. Much love and peace.