 It's still the breakfast in plus stevia Africa. It's time where we look at the dailies in the country We have the daily trust newspaper and Chris came they want to de-tribulize Niger is here with us Good morning, Chris. It's good to have you join us It's nice to see you beautiful people this morning. Good morning this morning Like I mentioned earlier run we have the daily trust and all the papers has been made available by the paper vendor No more negation with federal government. That's what ass is saying. It feels like ass is really really angry Declare indefinite strike Lecturers resigning in droves at uni like and they're heartless Nance is quoted to say who was that less The other station not binding on state universities poor chancellor's a quarter to say these are the riders You find underneath the boat caption but away from there You have more interesting headlines and bandits federal government releases six point two five billion Naira for cattle ranches in Katsina. Oh, wow traders count losses as flawed sacks canoes canteen Quarry market and again crowd defies downpour as a tick who are you orders receive Shakurau Federal governments may borrow 11 trillion for 2023 budget as deficits Rises above a hundred percent I'm just wondering where this leaves us Hush poppy caught bars federal government from Extradite in Kayari to the United States Politicians see election as war. Inaq is saying that's ahead of the 2023 elections and women lures kid with biscuit steels two-year-old in Niger or Niger and that's it All right, let's move over to the next paper this happens to be the nation news paper has some interesting headlines on the front page Big one there PDP crisis set back for article we can Reconciliation that the nation is really interested in this one crisis in the PDP PDP crisis set back for article we can reconciliation Right as to that headline articles men rally party organs for chairman. Are you Something will happen soon says reverse governor. He went to commission another road You know some post a wiki wants to make a statement you look for a road to commission or to flag off and call the press Something will happen soon. He said give a hint and some people are reading meaning Into what he's saying more from the nation wall back excludes Nigeria from $315 million food security cosh Court declines government's request to extradite Albuquerra to the United States to talk about that in deeply in our first major conversation this morning I'm here for a higher calling says tenable Gaspar buses for use on Marina, Ajah, Ekbe route. That's a good one I said it lets total indefinite strike state vasties not under obligation to implement federal government agreements with unions More from the Nation the Chicago returns to PDP and of course I think I've been talking tough saying that He is coming with votes for him to win Kano votes for capital projects unlikely in 2023 budget says finance minister for the government plans 19.76 trillion budget with 12.41 trillion Narrow deficit. It's something I saw last night and it was really it's worrying we'll get a guest take on this We'll hurry sign civil aviation six other bills into law IG No to assault on police men. So the IG is saying Those are headlines on front page of the nation Away from the nation. We have the punch 12 trillion our deficit worries federal government That's may heat 54 trillion narrow 19.76 trillion budget proposal. So we're probably just worried that We might be boring more. That's what it means Revenue shortfalls to hamper capital project funding federal government says in security threatens the FD is Niger economy shrinks by 663 billion naira 28 sector struggle Government decries patriarchal subsidy Airlines caught work force over aviation crisis Families grown as kerosene price increases by 99 percent six out of ten doctors leaving Nigeria NAD laments just as you have You know the Niger Medical Association complaining and most importantly it's the fact that it's affected, you know the ratio to the ratio of patients or doctor to patients a Relation right there we came out to name candidates planning Luton as to the class indefinite strike plans increase media engagement Walk for tickles victory Shakirao's Shakirao edges supporters and You find explosion near our CCG camp in just two and raises trucks Please plan fresh screening for protesting constables and Man arrested for stealing 15 year old child in Lagos generator fumes Kills in a go groom Wedding guests a purportedly and that's what you find that sit on the punch newspaper All right, let's get into the figure things are with our guest at Chris came to one who's joining us right here Online from Lagos. I'm starting with the budget 12 trillion narrowing deficit. I mean for some people. It's was not on the size of the budget but that Little little small problem of the deficit where are we headed to in the country Chris candy wonder? Do you think government may may go broke? Being already broke, but can they fully implement this budget all the money come from what exactly is going on? What are your thoughts on this Chris candy wonder? As rightly said acts with our government We already broke the nature is broke and That's why we have been burying with that with us is it You know, you know, you prove all for us the love of a primacy. We have all season We just had a new cinema. So when you're also in everything go quiet But in Nigeria we grow with us is in and the is later than no making matters For us because they have said it is the same as now. What about the president brings that we approve and that's what has been happening We are not even making walls. We're what we're even doing is servicing the depth We have a city depth what we are doing is just try the interest on the death and it's going to party You can see from what we're seeing from that paper looking about 54 trillion in the next few months and that to show you the of Nigeria and the most ahead of In the lifespan of this country of over 60 years is where we are borrowing money To drive our budget. You have a budget and you have more money to be able to implement it I have never had right is done in the world and And Everybody seems to have resigned themselves to faith The only thing they depend on is the is the group which we export and now we're even having serious challenges with the level of theft of the crew that we are not able to meet our open quota and be giving us our supply and That in itself is having so much serious push On the resources and after it will set the time with that number that we should be able to allow the states To be able to do the net for and that is what we need to think of with our Why can't it develop? The book more powers to be safe to be able to do let me give a classical example I see no reason why is it like a five river states Mediator states by yes, sir Unnemy cannot be given the opportunity to have their own refining Repiling their companies. Yes, but you know that when it comes to issue of oil It is I would really exclusive because this is where you're getting these things from if we can be able to encourage them to be able to Go into this and also establish their own refineries. We may not be able to run this kind of problem We're having a bet what what happens the government is just like the big elephant in the house They are decided to come now everything is safe and even be a resourcing back on him If I got great takes up close to about 50 about 50% and I shared the remaining among the Seven thousand for local government area. We cannot continue to go this way. It is just terrible And I don't see any pollution out of the wood for now But Chris, I mean should we go should we continue in this? pattern and this Thoughts that we have for instance, you have mentioned that You don't have and you don't know why other states I mean states like a quai bomb among orders are not allowed allowed to refine their product Should we still be talking about you know channeling all of our energies to the oil sector? Where we understand the right now there's even a court OPEC is saying All producing nation had to have to reduce You know caught there should be a court in terms of the output that's been given, right? And we also know that we had struggled over time to meet the quota This has been also given by OPEC Don't we have other areas where we can generate revenue where we can actually? Make some earnings apart from oil. Do we always have to talk about oil and allowing other states to? You know refine their products. Is that the only means of survival for us? No, it's not but messy every country has is cash cow our cash cow is oil If we invest Effectively in that there will be having so much problem. Of course countries, but what what does a Saudi Arabia a sports? What does if you look at other countries that into this is that is our catch? What I'm saying is that we are not getting it right for example Part of our problem now is foreign exchange ending cash crunch and out of that. We are spending so much to import the petroleum products So if we can be able to conserve what those in potential most of those Foreign exchange dollars and rest of them will be able to use it to do other things look at What is happening in the efficient sector? Most of the foreign allies have Pretending to pull out of the cause because they cannot repatriate. They are for it is their money back to their country They are not going to give them money Dollars It's kind of they don't even have dollars Not a product in the center back as just a problem at 260 million Dollars to be shared among them and which is just a production So what I'm saying is that if there's like a whiteboard I've mentioned Controversy Capacity of refining those since the government has it cannot even do anything The one they have it can do not the one they have it. They have a worry the refinery They have in what I call a total commuters and it's not working. We're waiting on dangling to come on stream In those states have the passage of into they were able to refine those crude oil They can buy let us even take it that they even buy the good oil off the federal government and refine and Distributes up within Nigeria that we save us a lot of foreign. They say no, but I'm reporting now What we're trying to conserve what we have and make sure that we don't import as much as we are doing now We are putting close to 90% of We have agriculture we have agriculture which we can also benefit from we Come in the past in the 60s Nigeria was no temple agriculture not not petroleum enough of not oil We are so good in this in the West. They were doing cocoa in the In the in the not we had a not as well You remember those got not to admit in the east that was oil We have so much Even currently as it were and that is what I'm talking about constitutional amendment Most of the state cannot even harness the mineral resources We just go to cookie and see the kind of Mineral resource we have because there's I or or there's good if you there's good There's so many things that we can be very good May seems to be good and that's why I continue to say that the National Assembly as we have presently are not doing the Need all the interest in it. Let's try reform. I think that is the only problem that you have But Chris came the one do I mean just before coffee comes in here In partation, are you saying that it's because we're only importing oil because I mean a foreign exchange Issues that we're having is because of our importation on the cash cow Which is in the oil sector having to import refined products Because we seem to be importing almost everything we import everything medicines Cell phones we import toothpicks. We import fish. We import What are those things again poetry products poetry eggs dairy products? That's really almost nothing that we don't import into Nigeria So how will you know the foreign exchange not suffer where the country whether the private sector or even the government is Not importing almost everything and some of these things we have the capacity to produce So why are we not producing we are more of a consumerist a nation where we consume and that's all we know to do I mean that's it feels like that's all that we know how to do to just import and import and import and we're not What are we exporting really? So I would really not want to agree with you on the sense in the sense that you know just the importation of Our cash cow is the problem. We're importing in almost every sector in almost every category. You look at Messi if you stop impotention of well, we'll cut it we'll cut it back over 50% I can tell you that because first and foremost you have to understand the dynamics of Economics the first remain is that we are spending so much in importation not only potential Also subsidy glance at how much you pay for subsidy on a daily basis and the level of corruption within the system I totally agree with you. I've said it we need to channel our NID intro that not only Agriculture even IT we can be able to get enough out of it a country like India What do they want their spot IT they make so much money from IT and also what that is So I still believe that the fact is that we are not looking at the right places The government seems to have just resigned his faith to just a spotting more oil and what we don't expect one That is the end. That is not being creative. Every other country is looking for time Let me give example a case that like California has said I am 2035 for the stoppage of vehicles using fuel By 2035 you must think any single vehicle in California using petrol what does that mean that means they're looking ahead They're looking at electric car that as is a country that has vision No, the kind of problem we have issue we're having here with fish with leader that have no vision I don't even know if they're left from the right All right, let's look at the ash as a situation with a number of papers the papers this morning taking Leading some space to that and share very well the issues and the indefinite strike being declared by the union The nation puts it this way as a declares total indefinite strike very quickly your thoughts If you for the first time I totally the seems to be I'm moving against us. I think they are stretching it too far for me I don't know the government said has made about 80% of the demands also and that's to stick where the bends are going on indefinite strike now That it make a decision. I'm on a It's just that I'm a traitor and I know that the negotiation that is given to you don't just remain on your stand I say it's either it's done my way nothing It is even for a reason even cost of So that's the time you step back and Tragedy's and the battery start to judge the close of the Open and continue a negotiation with the government. Yes I had totally that the government in his wisdom has failed in meeting the demand of us when you sign a contract with the union You have to make sure You have to make sure that that the terms of that agreement is totally But there's no hundred percent Give when it comes to negotiation My own content is not as soon now, but the students have been sitting as up across to one year Most of people the lecturers are already moving. I know of the university lecturer one of the statuettes University that yesterday located to you not taking up with her children and her husband If you know what she did. She is a PhD holder. She applied for master's degree in the UK University to to study so that you can have the opportunity of moving And there's so many of them moving away moving out So I think that this should be resolved but also to be able to get up. That's what that's what I do so far I may be wrong, but it's a time that this just even Nancy said no as a body I read what they were saying that condemn me answer that as his business Is taking a very very strong time at the end of it all Assume a loot the sympathy of the people which they've been riding off for the past some some months Now the state University are trying to pull it out So many of the state University are opening and that in itself is going to be a break in the rats of this thing I believe that this is the time for us to be able to do the needful meet government halfway Open up the university and continue to be an negotiation If they not give them an ultimate one to meet all those demands and they don't meet it They get there there's a possibility of also engaging them in strike again But this is getting to the decline and it appears like it's not the best for the university system But Chris, but Chris really I mean Would you blame us because as who has always met the government halfway? 2009 renegotiating agreement from 2009. This is 2022 is this not a trust issue should you really blame us? Yes, and I said it I said I've been the government initially I said don't may not be able to meet the demand of able to stick to his agreement with the Lecture that is a big factor But that does not also necessarily mean that I should not be able to do the needful life for goodness sake Irrespective went to elephants fight to ease the is the grass. That's not right. What is the plight of the students in all this? Let's even forget us meeting us or not meeting us of pedagogy. What is the plight of the student in all this a generation? We have to go we have to go we have to go you said it all I'm sure we'll have time for a more in-depth conversation also because I mean the issues are lingering But want to thank you so much for your in-depth analysis and look forward to having you with us again next time Thank you very much for having me. Have a wonderful day. 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