 Hi guys, so this episode that is going to air after the intro was actually filmed last week, and many of you might have already seen this episode with Mornay on Catherine Edwards channel. But in case you haven't, I am airing it on my channel as well. Mornay is one of my favorite human beings in the whole entire world, and I am so fascinated by his story and his love fire spending. So please, if you have not seen this episode, sit back and watch it. Of course, Mornay, most of you know Mornay from Aquarius, rising Africa, and I will be putting those links down in the description box below. Oh, I have got the biggest grin on my face. I say this every time, but I can't tell you how much I love interacting with you amazing people. So it's the 6th of January, so I'm going to say happy birthday to my nephew Alex. It was a big day last year. 6th of January was meant to be a big day this year, and it is a big day because my beautiful, beautiful co-host, Bryce and I, Bryce from Esoteric Atlanta, we are launching today our Discover Your Passion series. And when we were thinking about who we wanted on our first show, the unanimous decision was the amazing Mornay Venture. Now have I said your name, Mike? Mornay is good, and it is like Fentus, very affidavit to us. I hope it's for names, absolutely hope it's for names. I hope it's for names completely as well, so I will not. I've been on our channel as well. I get all kinds of pronunciations and fellings, but yeah, I love any. It's good enough. I like Mornay. Some people call it Mornay with an A and a Y at the end, so it's like Mornay. And that's how my grandma actually spells my name till this day. And Bryce has got an exotic name as well, and I notice you get all sorts of spelling of yours, and I might have to make something more exotic up than Captain. You can change its spelling around. Yeah, my name actually is my mother's maiden name, which is a big thing to do here in the South, and it's actually French. It's actually Brees, but when they came over from France, like a couple hundred, how many years ago, they adapted the English pronunciation, which is Bryce. So Bryce is the name now, but with the Y, that's the Scottish version, but with the I, it's Brees, which is French. And I always hated my name, because when I went to camp, sleep, play camp as a little kid, they would like put you in the boy's side because they got a little boy. But then as I got older, I probably wouldn't mind that, but as long as I thought that was not fair, but yes, yes, we all have, we have full names though. And Catherine, we could just, we could make some really interesting spelling for yours, like the hip hop artists do. That's the Brees. Yeah, exactly. Yes, there you go. There you go. The reason why Bryce and I work, we have loads of chats off camera, and we were just saying where we, we love the fact of all the interesting people that we've met in this journey, including everyone who comments, seeing the amazing people sort of on them, what we want to do moving forward into 2022 is just explore that people's different passions and skills, because we all know that everyone has got a unique gift. And sometimes as we get older, we have that suppressed, you know, the children just, if you ask a young child what they want to be when they grow up, they'll come up with all sorts of things. And there's no judgment in terms of one's better than the other. They're passionate about all of it. But as we grow up, we can have some of this knocked out of us. So we know that when on a daily basis, you do something that really brings you joy, everything around you changes. So, you know, I can be, I can have had some bad news or bad mood, and I'll hop on a video with Bryce, and then suddenly the world's great again, because you're so uplifting and positive about everything. So, you have got a very, very special passion. I'm sure you've got more than one, but the one that we were going to be speaking about today, predominantly, was your fire dancing. Oh, yes. Nothing about it. So I want to know everything about it. Well, okay, firstly, I just want to say thank you guys for writing me. I got that message. I was like, awesome. And when I heard about the subject matter, I'm like, okay, the universe God is like putting me somewhere there. And since you invited me, the word passion is I've been really reflecting on that word a lot and how it's very much connected with everything inside of you. And I didn't want to go look at the definition of that. I wanted to go look at my understanding, the feeling of that. And Catherine, when we last spoke together on your channel as well, you brought out the word mystery and really clicked with me. It's like, when we try to find the answer like an intellectual level, it's almost like, okay, cool. Now, now you think you sort it out and you have it and you understand it, but it keeps you limited from really experiencing more. There could be something more to it, which is not intellectual. So I really went into that feeling of passion. And for me, it's dancing, dancing, dancing, creating, expressing yourself, connecting. And not just connecting with yourself, obviously, but connecting with God, connecting with each other, connecting with animals. So I always had this passion of connecting and expressing myself. I always wanted to share all this joy and love that's inside of me because I felt I've been born with passion. I've always had this passion inside of me and I just felt I needed to do that. That's why God, God blessed me with a lot of gifts and because God knew I'm going to have a rough road ahead of me. And I was like, okay, cool, I'm going to give you a lot of gifts and you can play with it. So it's those interests that you find inspirations from. So this could be drawing. I love drawing, singing, dancing, animals. I always felt like the little outsider boy in my life. So I always went into nature. I always brought animals home, lots of animals. My parents hated my parents like, not one more animal. Okay, I won't do three days later. I felt like the curiosity as a child, the curiosity of life really searching for your passion. That probably was the process of searching for your passions to be curious. Be curious to the things that you love. Maybe there's something you don't even know that you love and you might like it. And for me, it's always been I knew all this stuff when I was born, but I couldn't see people seeing this stuff as well. I felt like people couldn't see that my parents and stuff like that. So I always felt like I could rip out this feeling inside of me and put it inside my mother or my sibling. I just like, feel that, feel that. So, so with dancing and singing and art, creating, expressing myself, that's where I really developed that gift inside of me. I always want to say, sorry, they're showing their passions. Yes. So I would, for me, that would be to connect with God with myself and just sitting and drawing that we go into that space where you just connect not necessarily consciously of God, maybe or with source, but you go into that space and you you dance and you move. You're just in connection with yourself. You're like completely in this alignment. Suddenly, you don't think about things. Suddenly, it's just you're in this space of connection. That's the other way I can find for it. And then you, if you had a feeling you were frustrated at school or you were frustrated that you don't, your mother is not hearing you or your father is not calling whatever their reason be, then you just express it. Either you sing a song or you start, I dance in my room and I'll do all kinds of moves. And that's the way that got me through it. So I was, so that really that dancing and singing and creating got me through a lot of things in life. And I think with everybody in this world, I mean, if we didn't have like things we loved as kids, luckily as kids, we were connected to the things we love, some more than others, but those moments, those moments that you actually do it, then you overcome difficulties and you connect again and go back and you find that passion. But I think passion of our purpose is a purpose and passion kind of goes head to head. So you have to feel like what you're doing has a little purpose. For me, it was to inspire people. And for me, it was also so inspire people or wanting attention as a little kid. Once I did it for attention, the passion went away. I lost it. And once I did it to inspire it fueled. Yeah, that's a really good point, Mornay, in terms of when, when we do something for anyone other than ourselves like that, do you think it loses some of those authenticity or brings in the vulnerability of caring what other people think? Yeah, I would say that, but not necessarily because you want to do it for somebody else. It's the integrity behind it. Yeah. Because you want acknowledgement or attention or do you want that person to be inspired and uplifted? So when you do it from a place, I want to really inspire these people right now. So I want to put up a nice show or something like that. That's beautiful because then you see those people at night because art really, if you art inspires people, it nights the passion and people, if people see somebody sing on stage or dance this beautiful dance, that sparks something inside of them, that divine spark of God activates within them. And they really like thought feeling stuff. As an artist, we can actually, you can actually just ignite that spark yourself. But for most people that live a mundane life, it's almost like they're addiction sometimes. That's why they like to get and that's why they get hooked with like modern, like Beyonce and stuff like that because they night sparks, but it's not the spark you are getting like to proceed you because they will just invert that spark. But I mean, that's what art brings out of people. But if you do it in a way for attention and stuff like that, if you lose passion, it doesn't make sense. I can remember when I started going to the corporate world, I was always like, I always told my parents, I don't give a hell, I'm going to do what I love and make money. I'm not going to do something that you think I should do and do and eventually I did and I studied animation. But anyways, in the corporate world, working for doing stuff that's not in your integrity, like making an advert for a hunting farm, a trophy hunting farm, you know, not in the world will I do that. And I stood, I stood, I stood my ground and actually I got away with it, only person that got away, I don't want to do seven things. But I used my gifts, not in a purposeful way anymore. And that's since my passion went away, went completely away. So it's not necessarily doing what you love all the time. It has to have purpose. You have to have a, it has to have purpose either way to inspire and connect so that you can connect the source, like you just dance because that's what's beautiful for you or you dance to inspire and like whatever. But if it goes to a place where you feel like you have to do it for, for some other company who doesn't respect this or you have to do it just for money or then you lose that, that gift, that love that you have for something just That passion in your soul that God gives you when you have to like swallow your integrity and use it to make money. It's almost like selling your soul, pieces of your soul a little bit. I think that you're right. I think that's people start getting burnt out. All of a sudden that ignition is that, that, that fire is gone. But it's interesting you were saying that about connecting with God and even the yoga sutras talk about like in the all being the name of God, because it's a vibration. You know, we call God God, but God, but God has no, but it's that vibration when you say the all me feel it. And so when you're in that flow of, of igniting that God given passion or talent, whatever it may be, you're actually living that vibration. And it's like you talk about performing and it's like, you know, with, with some people they perform for their ego to be praised, but others perform to share. Yeah. Share. They don't see themselves as better than they're trying to share with humans. And I think that's a huge difference too, is that, you know, when, when you do start to compromise that the passion and, and it does become more of a stepping stone of ego praise versus celebrating the vibration of God. Yeah, you said so beautifully. It's like sharing. That's like sharing is that connecting, wanting to give. I can remember when I was a little boy, I was like, I don't know how young I was, but I can remember my parents were fighting in the house. It's probably before seven, six around there. And it only took me many years. I must say, since I met Shantel as well, Shantel really helped me to really go deep, deep in this stuff. It took me like, many years to just go back, digging, digging, digging, trying to see everything and finding all my treasures inside that I could really remember beyond that point of seven, because I believe as a kid, you came in here all knowing you knew, you were so aware, you knew exactly what talking mechanisms you have to activate at what point, what button to push, where to put like everything exactly before that six, seven year mark where you're going to forget everything and you're going to start growing your ego and become so, you know, that beautiful. And okay, now we're going to let's do this human thing. The Matrix. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so it took me a long time to get to that place. I really needed to really understand why I felt how I felt, why I felt about my mother, father, myself, siblings, everything. So, and once I get to that place, I can remember sitting with God, I was sitting outside with my daughter, but with God and I was like, how are we going to help these people? Don't be to my family. How are we going to help these people? That's adorable, though. It is frightening, isn't it? When you were, what you were both saying then, it's like we've spoken so much on various different angles over the last year about, you know, the education system, the medical system, the sickness system, modern healthcare system, every system that we would, political system, the financial system. And it's so interesting to see how as you grow up and go through these stages, you know, being a mum myself, I can see the changes in my children when they then started going through the schooling system and how so much of their joy basically got pulled out of them because you're so forced to conform into something that's not yourself and the competitive side of things and how early the jealousy kicks in. And that doesn't come from the children. It comes from the reaction of the adults to the children. Yeah. And, you know, hindsight is a wonderful thing. But when you talk about your dancing, Mornay, was there a stage in your life where you sort of got self-conscious about it at all, or did you never have that problem? Yeah, let me continue with that. So it's about, for me, what's always about how can I connect with my, how can I help my family? So it was about how can I talk with them? How can I connect with them? Because they didn't give me the words because as a young kid, you don't have the words. I mean, they give you their language. I can't speak like, okay, you are feeling insecure because you're scared of that and you're scared of husband and you don't have that. So as a kid, you can't really give them the words why they, so you try to connect with them in a different way. And that for me was like drawing them a picture, dancing, singing. And I've never felt insecure as a kid. Never, never, never. My older brother hated me because I could sing on that mic and the whole neighborhood. Yeah, Mornay is singing again in the neighborhood. I was like, before my throat broke, so I was seedly done. So you never get that. I luckily was very stubborn. I was stubborn. I was so stubborn. And I was so, because I knew what I had in God in source inside of me. I have not one moment doubted my gifts or thought it's less than that or anything. And that's where actually I've got to get very competitive in that level as well. So I always try to push myself more. But you're always, I mean, self-consciousness is always the thing that comes in now and again. I mean, you're always going to have self-consciousness and then it always blocks you a little bit. But luckily, I don't think I always like, I just pushed through. I did it. It's like, once I do it, it's almost like I'm not me. It's like, when I was a little boy, drawing pictures for people in the class and I brought for all the girls pictures, anybody has a request pictures. It's always never felt like it was me. If somebody says you're drawing a beautiful picture right now, it didn't feel like I felt like very like, okay, fine, how do I handle this? Because it never felt like I was drawing this stuff. It was like, there was something out of me, God, I felt like it was God drawing, you know, it's if I can explain it in that way. I always felt like I'm just moving my hand. I'm just moving my body. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's not something that I didn't have to work hard for this stuff. I didn't really have to work hard for this stuff. I really was pleased. And again, I say it because I had a lot of stuff. I had seven planets in retrogate when I was born. So I had a lot of stuff that I needed to deal with, which could be like a lot of shows to talk about. But I was pleased with like, just having my art, loving animals, connecting with nature. And I had a passion to make this world a better place. I didn't know how, I don't know why. And since we started the sun kids actually, we did the sun kids sun kids projects since way back 11, 12, even she even longer. That's when I really found purpose in my passion. Actually, before even that, when I studied animation, I started giving art classes for a ruler, a ruler area, people that's like in those squatters, and it's like very, very poor people. And I was approached to do art classes and off the cons classes. Now off the cons, my home language is my worst subject. I got anyways, I was so happy and I started doing it. And I actually, I had exam in animation that I just neglected because I have art off classes and off the cons classes these kids tomorrow. Then I found this passion with kids because, okay, I had passion for animals, but kids are the same. As only as an adult, I realized, oh, kids, oh, kids are cool. So I put them into the same thing. And when I went back to them, maybe I also start art classes for kids of AIDS as well. So I was like, really, when I start working with kids, and eventually doing the animal communication, I do animal communication for the kids and the animals. That's when I really felt like, okay, now I'm doing what I'm passionate about, creativity, connections, connecting and expressing yourself. That's when I really found my passion growing and my purpose really fulfilling. I mean, the first time I did my first animal communication for kids, that was in 2014. When I finished it, I was like, this is a dream coming true that I didn't even know I had a dream about. I didn't even know I had a dream about it. But bringing that together, helping kids to express themselves and connect with animals and animals expressing themselves and that connection, that is what all the creativity is all about, dancing, art, it's all about that connection, that blissful connection where suddenly creativity bursts and suddenly you're experiencing something that you even didn't knew you could experience. I recommend to every person in this world to just start coloring in. If you're not an artist or something, just coloring in, just express yourself, use some colors in your life. That already opens up such things for any person. Start dancing as well. Everybody can dance. Everybody can dance. Start booing in your room if you must. I just think everybody can dance. Everybody can see, everybody can draw if you just had the right support when you were growing up or the right tools. But I believe everybody can do this stuff. Every morning I get up. I get super early to do my yoga practice. But before I ever get on my mat, for at least an hour, I will dance around my living room listening to Broadway shows. I think I'm a tap dancing legend. I think I'm like winning a Tony. I don't know. But it just frees me though. The 38-year-old man is like, oh, I'm just warming my body up. It's fine. But no, I actually, that's my favorite time of day from like 4 to 5 a.m. My dog thinks I'm that shit crazy. But that is something. Yeah, nobody knows. Well, I'm sure my spirit guys are probably laughing, but nobody else sees me. And it's so freeing in that being able to move to the music, to hear the voices, the strong powerful voices, and that I believe people have coding in their voices too. So there's that power there. So yes, I agree with you. Just start dancing. Nobody's watching. The British have got the reputation for being the worst dancers ever. But that's because we're told some such an early age that we can't do it. But also very much when I was growing up, the arts weren't valued at all. It was all science, science, science sort of thing. And the arts were very much what you did if you couldn't do anything else. And it's just absolutely appalling. You know, it really is. Now I look back now at the time, these things become normal because everyone's reacting like that. But now it's very, very different. And I see there's a lot more awareness about how important it is to allow people of all ages to express themselves. And my favourite time dancing, my horses love it. I dance out in the field. And they join in and we have such fun. It's absolutely brilliant to see because they love it because when you do just let go and do that, your whole energy changes, your whole energy field completely changes and opens up. And Morne, you were saying just before we sort of hit the record button about about coming up, opening up your heart space and your heart energy. Can you can you speak to that a bit? Yeah, exactly. And when you do something that you love, and it's, what did I say again? Sorry, it was about finding the inspiration and doing things that you love. So finding that curiosity, always being curious and what you said on the previous, stay in the mystery, be curious and follow that inspiration. Once the inspiration, do it and do the thing, do it with love. And then suddenly it just opens up the heart chakra completely. And that's what we are entering into this world now. I think as a civilisation, I think we've never been here. If it was thousands and thousands, I really have many civilisations we've been before, but we've never advanced to this level where we're opening up our hearts. We've always just stayed in these lower vibration chakras of pleasures or feelings and desires, not love. Love is for me, love is not a feeling. Love is like this is opening up the heart. A feeling for me is more like sadness or anger or jealousy. That for me is feelings. Love is something completely other for me, completely different. It's when all those energy combines, the inspiration, the passion, the purpose and everything comes up and explodes through your heart. And that's only the thing that you get when you truly express yourself. And as a human species, we are scared to express ourselves. We don't know how to express ourselves. We adjust how we express ourselves. Finding your own voice, it's not just finding your own voice, it's finding your truth. And for every person, it's very difficult to find your truth because everybody tells you what truth is. So you have to go in. We have to go back inside and find out where's the desires, where's the inspirations, what makes you tick, why do you feel something, and why do you not blah, blah, blah. So you have to go really understand yourself and go find your truth within. And that's when you have to go into those dark places inside of you. And finally, I mean like I can remember in the last 12 years, I've gone down this same path so many times and like, stop scratching the same sore. It's like enough, stop scratching that one. So I had to learn that. And then there's also one of those that you have to learn, okay, this one that you thought was ill, there's still some kha kha kutes, kha kha was like nasty stuff, still inside. So you have to go cut that thing open again and go look inside again. So the more we go, we want to understand yourself, you have to get to know yourself and nobody's going to give you that truth. And because that's your truth, and that's the only way you're going to express your truth is to really do that inner work, that alchemy and all that stuff. And that's how you're going to get to that place where your heart just grows open, open, open. Once burst open, you can express yourself. That's where the magic happens. And dancing and singing and drawing, I mean, my goodness, I can remember my curiosity to like just, I want to know everything, the mystery of life. And when I went to go study animation, God actually taught me numerology. I didn't even know it existed. I just as a displacement, I was like starting to write, okay, but this once and twos, you know, one, two, one plus, it's me and you. And together we're two. Me and it's like, I started realizing certain things like add up to each other. I started putting emotions to that. I started being everything together. I was like, oh, my goodness, what am I discovering right now? I felt like a bad scientist. And then I went on to the internet. And then I just realized, okay, it's numerology. It already exists. It's like, you learned it organically through your passion. Yeah, exactly. Through my passion, just connecting with God. God, I mean, I was a very young boy. I danced in the church. That's actually, I met old men cry. And I always had this, I always connected, I was always connected with God. It's like, I never lost that connection. Instead, I was like, I was like, okay, I will do this. I will do this. You stay on the side. I had moments of rebellion. Let's say that. But I always, God never, I never felt like disconnected from God in my life. Disconnected from myself, yes. Lost my passion a few times, yes. Right out for God, like, okay, now I need your help. But I always felt like, okay, I need to do this myself as well, you know, gotta always have your help in my back. I need to do this myself. Sorry, Carl. I think most people do that. Yeah, most people do. Now, you've just hit on something really important that I think is a lot of people watching this will be feeling, you said a few times you lost your passion or lost your connection for your passion. So what have you learned through your journey about where people, so if you've got people watching this that sort of feel, God, I just don't know what my passion is anymore. It's been so disconnected for so long. What advice can you give to people to actually start finding and exploring this again? Well, go look back again at the things that you used to love. Definitely, go find the love again. Love guides us. Love is like the light that we need. So go find, even if it's little things, go find those little things that you love, and then feed that flame. Passion needs to be fueled. It's not just something you just have to do it. So it's not just finding the things we have to do it then. So even if it's just coloring in, like I said, just start coloring in, because you have to connect with yourself back again. So go back to yourself and coloring in helps because when you're in that space of coloring in, you're just sitting with yourself and you're just feeling with colors. Colors are the rainbows, the white light of God, split into its beauty. So go play with God's light. Go sit and coloring it. I mean, that's one thing. But anything that you might think, maybe you enjoyed horses, then go to horse runs and go experience horses again. Just go back to a place where you start feeling that love and allow God, allow the feeling to arise and just remember what you're passionate about. Because everybody, it's not like you forgot it. It's just you've not connected with it in the long term. And through love and your intention to connect back to it, I think that will just give you that moment. So you'll find that moment where you can just feel the love that you've, something that you've done, a place that you visit, the thing that you've done. But just, I think just go find a spark of love somewhere, watch an old movie, see an old performance. I don't know. It's like whatever you feel guided to it. But I think if you just if you put your mind onto it, if your intention is to go find it, that is the first step. Just make the decision. I want to find my passion again. Once you make that decision, I believe everything starts falling into place. Then just be open to whatever it is and stay in the mystery, Catherine. Stay in the mystery. Might be something new. Might be something new. Might be something new. This whole thing I've been this whole time, I used to love to write a long time as an adult. I'd write as a kid. I would, we would have to write these stories and I want some awards as a kid. And as you were talking about that, I was thinking about how many children have these like wild imagination that adults try to squash. And instead of squashing, if you had a wild imagination as a child, who knows, start writing again, start creating those stories. You could be the next great, right next grade American novel. I mean, how many of us have have read novels that are fiction, but that changed our life. Because underneath that imagination is an actual story there. And you know, I was just, as you were talking, I was thinking about all the kids I know who've had just these wild imaginations. And they know their imaginations are imaginations. They're not confused over what is reality and what is playtime. But instead of squashing that, what if we nurtured that and allowed them to write and allowed them to tell these stories. And for some people watching, because I know on my channel, whenever we talk about like the new financial system and the fact that our whole relationship with survival is going to change and people are kind of panicked because they've been conditioned for the matrix and they packed away all that. Because I think you're right, Mornay. I think kids come out and they're like, this is what I'm here to do. This is this is what's going on. And then we shove them in school and that totally gets ripped away from them. And but for everybody going back to that, like, what did you and I know for me, even when I'm at my parents' house, just looking through old pictures, sometimes I'll remember feelings and I'll remember joy. My cousins, my on my mother's side of the family, my mother had three sisters and their parents passed away very young. So growing up, my mother and her sisters did a really good job of keeping us together. And so my cousins on my mother's side, I grew up with them like brothers and sisters. And there were eight of us. And every summer, we would go back to the Low Country, Charleston area, the beach where my mom's family was from. And we'd all live together in this house. And the eight of us, we were constantly forcing our poor parents, we were constantly forcing them to watch us put on plays. We would put on plays like every night together. And last month, I was at one of my cousin's engagement parties and we decided all of my cousins that we were going to get another house, and we were going to put on play together together as adults. We were going to just do it all over again as adults, because that we love that just talking about what we used to do as children, and that that joy of just playing together and creating. And we would take the towels and make costumes out of towels and tie things, our father's ties around our heads to keep things on. And that is that. So just going back to that innocence. And there's trust. You talk about the love. And I kept thinking as adults, we decide, and I see this in something like yoga all the time. As adults, we have this idea that we're going to start something. We're going to be a novice. But yet we can't be a novice. We just have to get it and we have to do it. But there's such, it sounds cliche, but there's such learning in the journey. And when you start to trust that, that love where you don't feel insecure, where you allow yourself to stumble and fall into color outside of the lines a little bit, you never know where that that misstep isn't actually a misstep and it's going to push you in a direction you need to go. And so just in that love, then you have trust. You don't have that insecurity anymore because you know, you might not know the journey, but you know there is one, you know. So there's magic there. And that is the mystery too. When speaking of the mystery is one of my favorite quotes. And I think we all can attest to this over this time period is the more that I learn, the less I know. Yeah, absolutely. And you said it beautifully there, Bryce, because the only video that I could find that I could share with you guys tonight is like, is the latest one. And I had the fire stuff and I threw it in the air and it fell on the ground. And I've been struggling about because it's this big stuff, it's full of fire and throw it in the air, it falls on the kids head, you know, you know what that stuff is in your life. But that night, I was also like, I was like, no, I'm going to do it again. And I did it twice afterwards. And I got it right where I got it when I caught it. And it's that thing is like, you suddenly it's like, okay, I'm going to make mistakes, but I'm, I'm going to continue. And then suddenly you get that trust in yourself. Yeah, video. Can I ask, how did you learn? How did you find fire dancing? When you told me that you did fire dancing, I was like an excited little child. I was like, I have got to see this. This is amazing. Well, I must say, it's, it's super amazing. I made a friend, the name is Zelda Lawrence. And she's got her own company, Evolve Fire Spinning and performances. She's, she's this amazing chick. And she's like, she could go to 80 or 90 and she's still be this young little, and she's just this amazing girl. And we, we actually made for Chantel as well, because they work together as well. She did her bookings and stuff. And she was just like, one day I was like, oh, awesome. This is fun. And she's like, okay, cool. Can I book you for spots? I'm like, yeah, let's do this. And so I didn't really have any real training for it. It just really came naturally. Like I said, I was just, I'm like, I didn't have to learn hard for anything artistic. When I do it, it just happens. Like, like even yoga, I don't do daily yoga. But when Chantel comes here, I'll do like a normal little stretch yoga. So when Chantel comes here and do a powerhouse yoga, I can do all those moves where other people like suffer. So it's just I'm too, I'm very lucky. I got placed. But you have that trust. I think that's that trust you have. You fall into that center of trust. I think God had a felt safe with me with certain things. It's like, morning has enough to deal with in this level. Let's just you can, you can have this side. But anyways, but once I did, so I met her and I stood my first show on my 30th birthday, exactly on my 30th birthday, in the in the rural area of the big city, like, and it was amazing. I was with my parents. I was like, okay, I have to go go do fire spinning. And, and it just worked. It just flowed and that flames, it's so amazing. It's not like when you're dancing on yourself. And suddenly when you're dancing with the flames, it just everybody disappears around you. I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. It's amazing when the flames goes around you, you start feeling your outer body. It's like respect for that flame. So I was, it's passionate. It's like, it's this fire, you can feel the fire burning inside of you whilst you're playing with that fire. You completely lose yourself. It's like, it's, it's something I can't even really express. It's like the first time when I when I did my first animation. So all my life, I'm drawing beautiful pictures and stuff. And then seeing your first character talking and having feelings. You know, it's like, wow, my picture is actually living and breathing. It's talking. Well, the same with that with the dancing. I'm starting to dance with fire because I did, I did jazz. I did modern freestyle. I did my on the stage dancing in the spotlight stuff, you know, theater stuff like that. But when I started playing with fire, it was just completely, and it's one of those two catch scenarios. I'm enjoying it for myself. And people around me are at nighting. So I don't even have to think about inspiring them with my movements or like whatever. I just connect with the flame and then just get at night. It's a dancing with fire. It's, it's beautiful. And this actually one picture I want to show as well when I was dancing with fire in the rain with fire. Wow. I'm going to break into the Adele song now, but you don't hear that. Hi, the other day, just before you show us the video, I can't wait to see it. So I messaged Bryce the other evening, because all my family are out. And so I had glass one, I put all my songs on and I was dancing in our big lounge of things. And I was really just to Adele and I give sets of bars, the rain and everything. And then I messaged Bryce. I thought anyone could see me now, but the cats enjoyed it. Yeah. So can you share a video with us then? Can you show us one? Yes, definitely. I mean, it's, it's super badass too, Mornay. The fact that you do fire, like you, you spin this fire, like that is really, I mean, talk about impressive because I can only imagine having to work your energy with another natural energy that is so powerful, you know, to have that respect for that nature and then to talk about this with it. Talk about respect. Do you see? Is it on? Yes, it's just the pitches up. Yeah. So this is the one with where I was playing with the fire sword in the rain. And it was almost like feeling like I'm cutting through sorrows, cutting through regrets, cutting through, you know, like with the fire, cutting through emotions, transforming them, turning them into like that night. I can't even tell you what the experience was of dancing in the rain. That's also with the sword. That's emotional. It really makes me emotional as well, Bryce. It's like, to me, that is like the visual representation of we talk about the divine matrix, the, you know, the connection and everything. And this, to me, it's like you can see the invisible energy. You've now brought that to light of this connection that binds everything. That is just stunning. Absolutely. It's like dancing with the elements is starting to really, you start respecting what I started dancing with fire. I started really thinking about the elements. And because I was at that stage, very much connected with my spiritual self. So I was very much aware of fire. Yeah, being aware of the fire water. Sorry, guys. That's okay. Yeah, so I was very aware of water. I'm very excited. They're expressing their passion right now, too. They're just agreeing with you. Somebody's walking by the house. You know what we call my dog, the sheriff, because he does the exact same thing. If anybody wears walk past our house, he's got to, he's got to inspect it and let you know. So I totally get that. You know, you talk about spirituality, though, do you feel like it looks like it almost looks ritualistic in a very positive way? Like, do you feel when you're doing these quote unquote performances, like you're actually doing a prayer, you're actually in the process? Do you feel like it changes the vibration of the area where you are or the people around you and that sort of like majesty of the magic of spiritual ritual practice? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Give me just a second to just go right ahead. We can talk. It's amazing, isn't it? When you see this, this is really art in action, isn't it? I mean, absolutely beautiful, absolutely stunning. And that's pretty amazing photography as well, isn't it? I don't know if I, I mean, you talk about like being brave. I don't know if I would be brave enough to do what he, like, I think I would have this, I would be like self-conscious about burning myself or burning someone else. That you're able to submit to that movement is so beautiful. I'm so drawn to this. I just love fire and it's always been so drawn to, to fire and it's interesting because I'm not drawn to water at all. So it's so many people, virtually everyone I know, apart from me wants to live on the beach and everything and I don't. I'm a woods and fire person and I'm sure it's because I drowned at Atlantis because oh, I've been drowned as a witch on too many occasions because I really don't like going underwater. Probably many times, many times. When I see the fire, I just want to, I literally want to go out and start doing this now. Yeah. That's amazing. Well, Bryce, back to the question about the spiritual side. It's the same as when you go into a space where, where as a young boy, I was sad and maybe my mom and dad is fighting or stuff like that and I will go into my room and I will start, it was like starting to connect with God and you like start unloading yourself and you start connecting to that feeling and you're like trying to process that feeling. Either we're singing or starting to dribble a picture or dancing in my room. It's basically the same thing that happens when you start doing, for me, it's when you start doing it once that you work with that flame, you're completely going to that space of you respect your own integrity, you're like, so definitely it's like a kind of ritual and especially this, this one time year for me was very special because I was going through stuff here and it started to rain and I was playing for the first time with a fire sword. So it was like kind of like this for me was definitely a well broke through and transformed stuff inside of me and so definitely it could definitely be used for like a spiritual transformation and especially with fire when you do like the boy spinning like this one with the balls, it really balances your left and right mind. It's like these flames you like learn to like go with it balances left and right mind. So it's very good. I mean any person can do that just for the benefit of balancing that left and right brain movement and thing. It really opens up stuff. That's for sure. It's so interesting looking back at the pictures where you said you were going through stuff and we see these beautiful pictures of just such raw beauty of the elements of the majesty of nature and that movement and it's interesting sometimes we I think that God allows us to drop into these. It's almost like you have to descend before you can us send to drop into this like suffering and pain in order to then reach deep and define that element of magic that is in that that movement you were doing. So it kind of gives a whole new perspective on suffering and what what that can actually how we can use that energy to help us fuel us and help us grow versus wallowing at it and just staying in that low vibration. Yeah transform us, resurrect us. You can use the suffering as the fuel for resurrection. Yeah. Yeah that's how I see it. It's like it's like the well of love for me. You have to have a deep well in order to fill it with love. So in that deep this is the pain. So the more you're suffering the more pain you can handle the more it can be filled with love and the more passion and the more love and inspiration you will find and trust me everybody can dig very deep you don't need to be in the system or I mean the people that's in the SRA places I mean those people have to go deep with stuff but we all have stuff where we feel insecure we feel a lack of worth we feel not good enough or we feel not accepted or we feel whatever we all have that same stuff in our life where we felt embarrassed ashamed guilt all that stuff we all have that it's not going to go away and it's not going to help by just doing like okay it's fine I'll do better tomorrow it's just going to build up more layers and more layers and it's been doing that for since we were small since you were small first embarrassment we have the first shame we had but once you get to a place I think past your your teams in your 20s then we have this opportunity where we can start to go and decide how do you want this foundation to be what feelings do I want to carry with me to my theories and stuff like that and it could be a great it's a great source of inspiration and creativity I mean I think most of the great artists in this world all got the inspiration from the most tragic most tragic things in their life I mean that's why we still study Shakespeare whoever whoever Shakespeare was that's a topic for another day but all the stories of Shakespeare yeah it's all the all yeah the conspiracies around that the pain that people go through the stories the soap opera it's all the jealousy the seed it's all stuff that we still connect to in a different time because human beings are always where we've been consistently experiencing this hate this same human condition and how beautiful is that that we can actually you know if we look at the the bad guys in our world right now they don't want us to transform that they don't want us to be able to find that alchemy I love how you said that that alchemy of taking that yuck and using it to make something beautiful that actually heals you you know that's just that's that's beautiful alchemy yeah that is that is our goal like Chantal likes to say it's our goal all that stuff is our goal the stuff that we like to avoid the stuff we don't want to deal with the stuff they like to build on and keep us away from is our goal embracing our fears embracing our guilt's embracing our shame's embracing all that stuff and finding the truth and that's what I speak earlier about about finding that truth to express yourself that was my journey with everything like that with all of this I was trying to express myself I didn't feel like people gonna understand myself so firstly I had to find the safe space where I can express myself with my connection with God even though it wasn't always conscious you know but as I'm I know now that's what I was doing back then I had to add the space where I could go in my room and dance sing create and that made me feel connected and understood and I could feel expressed and that was my feel to go out there and that's what I used I used the gifts and but that I had I took it out there and tried to connect with the world as you know growing up now this is what I know how to do so I'm going to use this to maybe this will help me to connect with you know my father or whatever whatever you want to do but I think one of the reasons why I've always been so so drawn to cats you touched on earlier more nay what's happened froze then something happened then um yeah you touched on earlier about maintaining this curiosity and I I'm pretty obsessed with cats always have I can remember when as a child we managed to get our first cat in the house so my parents moved out especially so that they could live somewhere as safe as possible for a cat because we all know cats wonder wherever they want to and wanted to be as far away from roads as possible and I've got I've got five cats at the moment um they're all absolutely amazing but their curiosity they say curiosity killed the cat but their beautiful curiosity every minute of every day of where they're exploring everything around them and taking such joy in that and when they when you watch a cat exploring something they're so in the present moment yeah you probably distract them because they're so focused and they're they're in their own little world and everything's exciting to them and everything's fun and when you look at say children nowadays um where there's this constant stimulation all the time and and you were touching earlier Bryce about what beautiful imagination children has got well animals animals don't need a lot of toys to play with things that they will completely create their own fun and an excitement and entertainment and so will young children if you allow them to but now we're filling their lives with electronics and phones I was mentioned to someone the other day that you know you go around the supermarket and there's children of two that are playing on mobile phones because they can't even go around and a supermarket for a young child it's like colors everywhere and shapes and sounds it should be a really stimulating place but I think getting back to this curiosity being curious about everything that I think everyone who watches any of our work they're curious they those are the people who haven't lost their curiosity because if they had they wouldn't be watching us but it's so important and when you maintain that curiosity you can find joy excitement passion in almost anything can't you yeah and it's also about exploring that curiosity not just leaving it I think and yeah like cats I've also got five curiosity does kill the cat that sins and because sometimes you can be curious about the wrong things yes you know give me like no it's all back to intentions it's about finding that attention what so that's what I said in the beginning if your intention if your decision is to find passion then you'll find it but if your decision is to find passion because I want to mean something or I want to prove something or want to be something either than what you know then you're not going to find it you're going to lose it so if your curiosity can lead you to like the stray but I couldn't so you have to everything can be used for the good and the bad obviously that's what these people have done with us and you can your passion it could be passionate about something or it could be passionate about being right and then suddenly that passion starts becoming this fire of destruction instead of this fire of inspiration yeah so in the same way of curiosity it's you can either be curious about just you know not but you have to go take action you have to go explore the ones that you really you have to go find the love and if your intentions are not aligned then you're going to be like the curious cat that the eagle just caught because it was chasing a bunny what's up like that oh I sometimes my nerves when I see my cats it's like something where you have cats you really learn to trust and let go you you just you just have to trust that that cat will go out just like I'm parents probably with teenagers that that kid will come back and it will still have all its arms and limbs and it's terrifying my different personalities my husband who I've spoke about a lot he's so laid back his correspondence so um it curled up here on the side here I've got Idris and pumpkin two of my cats and then Fluffy Duffy over by the fire but Idris is unbelievable he came from Romania he's the coolest dude I've ever met in my life he follows us on every dog war miles away he goes miles he might just peel off for three days at a time and my husband's completely laid back about it he's just off having fun and me as his mummy I'm just like where's my baby and that's that poor for the animal communication but you are so right morning it's that you know trusting but I wouldn't have it any other way because when I work with clients and they've got house cats it's just so tragic it's just so because of all the animals thought cats just need to move straight explored but as as a cat mum or dad it can be horrifying at times I must say since I started um a learning animal communication it's been 10 times better because not least I can I can WhatsApp my where are you where you're going but it's like a cool you're there there is fine even when I go and to other towns and stuff when I'm away for the weekend I um I'll be just like okay how are you the actually they will contact me cats don't um they'll contact you if they really need something I can remember this one time my cat contacted me and she's like I haven't had my treats yet I'm like okay cool I called the the person that was looking at my house so like okay mama she's saying she hasn't had a treat yet she's like oh I forgot and he went to the kitchen and mama was sitting exactly there where the treats should be yeah the animal communication helps and I also had this experience where I lost one of my beautiful black boys I searched for three months and I was like everywhere and usually I find people's animals very quickly but it was just so hard because he was like moving and moving and eventually I dogs got him you know dogs finally got to him and if it wasn't for animal communication I wouldn't have had that closure you know I wouldn't have known that some old lady is holding him in his house or blah blah blah so I really think and that's part of the the heart chakra thing the heart opening thing where we're going as a civilization are the 5D people who call the fifth dimension is where we can actually start to talk to the animals yes nature spirits and all it's where we can actually that's where we have that connection and through passion and creativity and connecting of what you love and just feeling those places inside of us we get to this place where it opens up and I was yeah again I would say I'm really blessed and lucky because I really had the strong connection with God since a very young boy very young boy I always like I always had this connection of God but it wasn't about God it was about what God wanted me of not even God wanted me to do what I wanted to do and obviously that was an alignment obviously you want to do the best you know you want to do the most you want to share I think that's every kid I mean every kid wants to do whatever it's fun at best and share with my friends and don't see my body being hurt I mean that's part of everybody I think it's it's not a superhero thing that's a hero God complex thing it's a real authentic thing human beings care about each other and want each other to see each other happy we want to share our gifts I think finding your passion is one thing and then finding your purpose in that is another thing and then giving that away is the ultimate thing sharing that so how do you give that away how do you and that for me is with what me and Shantel is doing with the kids the soul school yeah so I mean my gifts the creativity in the books and ideas and stuff and putting animals and humans together bringing nature and humans together again that for me is now the ultimate passion the ultimate purpose because all those gifts all the dancing singing everything everything aligns to one great purpose that affects a lot more so and I think that's every human being that's our ultimate goal is to find our purpose and then give it away and share that passion share that purpose because it's lonely when you just keep it to yourself that's where all the black guys are on our board and just want more planes and just like whatever they want but yeah I think that's cool can I ask if somebody wanted to like explore the the type of fire dancing you do now obviously you're not in America we're all in three different countries is there like an organization people can look at to find in their areas they're like I mean I don't even know how this works is this like you know like if someone wants to yoga they can just google yoga in their areas there's something for people to look for if they wanted to explore what you do in their own home country yeah I think I think most places should have fire spares I think most places they should they're probably more highlighted behind um circuses or trance parties or something like that um but the place I work for the friend I work with evolved fire spinning I can give you guys the link as well yeah so spire spinning is that a good keyword for people to look at their fire spinning okay so now I know we're gonna have people that are gonna just love to explore this because and this is the beautiful thing about doing this series because how many passions are out there that we don't even know exist yeah so many people have probably have no idea that this actually even exists exactly if you google it you will find like tutorials like easy first steps fire spinning I'm sure if you google it you will find all kinds of videos tutorials videos it makes me laugh morning because in the UK again one of the other things we're quite well known for is our health and safety so you probably can't in the UK they'd probably make you do it with fake um but like you know I suppose you know with me the gymnastics is almost with the ribbons would like the fake fire but there's so many ways for people to explore and I would say you know sometimes you've got to take those risks guys you know with you um um you don't want to be faking it you want to be working with the real stuff but don't play massive you set fire to yourself okay I would say make sure you have a teacher right morning when you first learn how somebody they're guiding you well if you never just practice this like you can black this practice with socks with balls in low socks and balls in so just practice once you get it right then don't be scared to burn maybe once you feel like once you feel you've got the sock balls ready then start then invest get you those fireballs and you it's it's a beautiful experience once you start feeling the flames going around your body you just go off and you're just like in the center of this like fireball so yeah but it's you won't burn down you just burn your hair maybe get it like a little but I'm well I've had fun in the process yeah oh if you want to follow your work Lorne can we put your social media links down below to follow your journey and see your performances I know we're all different countries but to kind of keep up with you and use you as inspiration as a muse for people who want to yeah definitely definitely I'll give you my links yeah I'll put the I'll send you my links yeah brilliant yeah yeah but you know that I could literally keep talking to you to all night yeah I definitely that has exceeded any expectations I had in terms of that discussion and and I think we can be a hundred percent sure you are one passionate person so what a perfect perfect way to start off our series and I know we'll be asking you back as well because I've got a list of so many things I want to speak to you about particularly animal communication actually because everyone knows that's a real passion of mine so but anything else that you want to share with us either of you two before we finish Lorne first I just want to say well I'm going to say thank you YouTube for inviting me and thank you for me thank you to to get got me thinking about passion in a different way because I really had to think about when you invited me and how it really flows inside of you and how inspiration and how purpose I could really see our passion could be destructive and also constructive so really so thank you for that because I had a little inner jetty again in the last couple of days and I just want to say thank you well for the audience I would like to say you can do it there it's there it's not that hard just smell out the love and yeah smell the love find the love be the love love will take you there and it might sound very hippie every fairy hippie like in a way but actually it's very true but just you gotta be true of yourself of it really honest of yourself even if it means you have to like just first go through some uncomfortable things but find that love don't ever let anything stop you from finding that love inside of you and then dig so deep into that place if you have to but yeah anyways I'm going to stop there you've got the love just go find it and the passion will arise and thank you one day when all this is over and we're in that new earth I hope that you're able to tour around at Mornay and go all over the world and show people live the power of your passion because I've gotten to know you through Aquarius Rising Africa and you're just such a genuinely authentic just such a bright light anyway and it's just such an honor to be in both of your presence like to be on this journey with both of you so so thank you for coming on today thank you price from one bright light to another exactly and I thank you so much anyone who's watching this um Bryce and I have had the most amazing response for people wanting to share their passions I'm really sorry I haven't got back to any of you yet we have both been after Christmas so snowed up I'm so behind with my emails so please please know we're not ignoring any of you and if it takes us a couple of weeks to get back to you we will do um so we appreciate each and every one of you who sort of volunteered to come on and share your passions because um we can't wait to hear about all of them so until next week thank you from all of us thank you so much morning and um we will be back soon let us know how you enjoyed this folks thank you