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I am a loud typer though I'm gonna just buy you a nice Apple keyboard with little squishy pads. I'll make that loud too. I swear I saw Ryan's on his typing on the new Mac Pro Pro is like I don't not like those chicken keyboards and never have and they're now that they have even less travel like It's such a different sound from the old keyboards. I know Okay, shall we get going with the old show then? Oh, sorry the air conditioning just came on. I have no control over it Hopefully that's alright too annoying. No, it's not okay Well then well then Let's do this Daily tech news show is powered by its audience to find out more at a daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday January 30th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt joining me Veronica Belmont back on a Monday. How are you been Veronica? We missed you. I'm good Hi, honey. Oh happy Monday Happy Monday to you too. We're gonna be talking about robots who make coffee It I could not imagine a better topic for for us to talk about this is like basically Veronica podcast Like a dream podcast We're gonna talk about that in a little bit, but let's start off with the top stories In light of a disappointing Q4 earnings Fitbit announced it will lay off 110 people six percent of its workforce Fitbit sold 6.5 million devices in Q4 But saw revenues fall below guidance CEO James Park said the slowdown was part of a transitional period He promised the ability to deliver a more personalized experience and upgraded products, which will stimulate new areas of demand Yeah, this is our first check-in on the wearables market since Fitbit had a disappointing Q3 And disappointing forecast more for Q4. So they didn't meet the expectations of those disappointing Q4 forecasts. That's bad He's not wrong that This is a transitional period remember they they've just bought a lot of companies including pebble and and Yeah, they have yet to see the payoffs from that yet And I wonder how much that this is also attributable to Apple Watch and just the proliferation of a lot more Tracking devices out there on the market these days. I'm in a weird transitional phase right now Or I'm not I wore a Fitbit since they launched and I'm no longer wearing it and my Apple Watch broke So I'm no longer wearing that so I'm untrackable But it is you know Fitbit's a great brand and I think they've got a ton of smart people working for them So hopefully they can find a way to turn this thing around because they were really one of the first well-known brand names in the wearable Market that really picked up any steam and in the mainstream So hopefully they can figure out a way to turn things around Yeah, I look at Fitbit and I think they they got the first mover advantage in a lot of ways Which doesn't always mean that you win win the long game But there's no Credible threat to them either It's more about whether the market itself is just going to implode or if they can be the company that comes up With the way to revive the market before somebody else comes up with a way to revive the market and Apple Certainly is in on that as well. Jawbone is in on that There's a lot of people trying to come up with that thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah, totally agree Namco founder Masaya Nakamura has died at 91 Nakamura was often called the father of Pac-Man for heading that company that brought Engineer Toru Iwatani's creation to market in 1980 Nakamura founded Namco in 1955 with two mechanical horse rides on a department store rooftop That's awesome. I know I was sucker for that story of like he started with just two mechanical horses And launched an empire including Pac-Man only two mechanical horses to his name. Yeah And I do think it's unfortunate I I don't want to take anything away from from Nakamura son because he is the father of Pac-Man But then what does that make Toru Iwatani? He the midwife of Pac-Man or you know, he Nakamura son helped him kind of see the vision Yeah, no, and absolutely Nakamura was the one who made it possible for for Pac-Man to be created and what a heck of a legacy So unbelievable sad to see him passing Dropbox is launching paper globally Monday This will be our by my count 18th app to be named paper in history It is a basic document editor. It's not actually an app. It's a basic document editor within the Dropbox system It allows you to do collaboration Track your changes on a timeline. There's some project management features some really cool ones in the works for Assigning employees and doing some task management another feature is also being launched called smart sync This is Dropbox infinite if you remember hearing that announced smart think smart sync allows speedier automatic syncing Eliminate storage requirements on the hard drive So you don't have to reserve a bunch of space to keep all your Dropbox things. You don't have to do selective sync It'll just be smart enough they say to automatically figure out what's going on there paper launches for all users and 21 language markets now although you'll need an enterprise or business plan if you want to use the administrative features and Smart sync is only available as an early access program You have to be a business or enterprise customer to get that This is fascinating to me because it finally feels like Dropbox and Google Drive Slash Google Docs are kind of really going head-to-head in a lot of ways Yeah People use Google Drive as a document repository and use Google Docs to to essentially fill that and use that as an access point To get those online documents and Dropbox was always just that repository And so now having that editing feature like kind of brings them nose-to-nose in a lot of ways And one of the reasons that I've wanted large hard drives on my laptops is wanting to have all of my Dropbox files Locally so I could have offline access smart sync is their attempt to say you don't worry about that. You can have a smaller hard drive It's fine. You'll still have access to all your files Not obviously not offline, but we'll be smart enough to make sure that the ones you've accessed most often are the ones that are located On your hard drive when you need them. It's a lot of trust for me though. That's a lot of trust I know I feel I similarly feel that kind of fear every time I use one of these services What do you think of the project management aspect of paper? I need to look at it more closely because I I do love stuff like that So I I use a lot of different kinds of tools right now I don't have one one complete tool for everything I do in terms of keeping track of my documents and project management and task management So I'll have to see what that offers. We use Google here at my company We don't use Dropbox at all though So I think it'll probably we're in that ecosystem of Google in terms of all of our emails and documents and things of that nature So it would have to be really really good for us to completely make the shift Well, we could try it out on sort and laser because we use Dropbox for that And then if you love it then you could be like hey guys might want to look at this Yeah, check it out the Wall Street Journal reports that TechCrunch has confirmed that snap ink maker of snapchat Will list its stock in the New York Stock Exchange Woo recodes Cara Swisher reports that according to sources snap will publicly file it late next week on pace for a March IPO The company previously filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission in late 2016 to prepare for an IPO But this will be the first public disclosure of its finances Yeah, so it sounds like you're gonna be able to buy yourself some snap stock You think they're gonna get snap Oh as the code that that has been I read I read an interesting article about like the company that reserves the codes So that they can make sure that that companies get them and what you have to do to get your code I think I think they will it sounds like they will I thought you were saying are you going to snap up some of their snark Are you going to snap snap? I am I won't because I don't buy I mean, but if I didn't would I Yes, I think I might and this is this is not a stock purchase recommendation It is not a predictor of future results in any way But it does seem like Snap is on the upswing Whether it's gonna have like a spike on its IPO is a whole different matter Greg Sterling at marketing land has a column up posing the question of whether tech companies in the United States Can remain neutral in the country's current political climate uber suspended surge pricing in New York's JFK Airport over the weekend to avoid appearing to be profiting from protests there, however At the same time that they did this New York taxi drivers were engaging in a one-hour strike in support of protesters So many looked at it as profiteering by uber And a delete uber movement was started in response In addition uber CEO Travis Kalanick is a member of the president's CEO advisory board Conservative organizations in the past have organized boycotts of Amazon because Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post Netflix for issues with a documentary about Syria So it is increasingly becoming difficult for a company to go about its business in a way that doesn't offend someone We'll talk a little bit about this delete uber movement in the sense of whether, you know you you How how much it helps for you to vote with your dollars so to speak but just a reminder for folks who have a Desire for wider political discussion on this show daily tech news show we have kept throughout this entire crazy election And and and inauguration as a place away from politics if you needed a break from all of that The only politics we try to talk about on DTNS is when it bears on technology So we talk about encryption when Apple was was resisting a court case. We talk about net neutrality We've talked about Ajit Pai as the new commissioner of the FCC when it bears on your use of technology We're going to talk about it the rest of the time We keep it out of the show and we keep it out of the show on purpose Do not take that as us not caring and do not take that as you knowing what we think Myself and the contributors and our producer Roger Chang all have different opinions about these sorts of things And there are other places where you can go to find out those opinions I do a show with Roger Chang my producer called East meets West Justin Robert Young does politics politics politics I'm also angry on Twitter. You can follow Veronica on Twitter Scott Johnson does the warning streams so Patrick Beja does a great show called the Philius Club There's lots of places to get that sort of stuff It's it's that same idea of like you can't stay neutral That made me want to tell people like just because we're not talking about it doesn't mean you know what we think about it or that we don't care Indeed To bring it back to the delete Uber thing like how how hard is it for a company now because Uber has a whole lot of other problems with it, right? They've been arrogant for a long time and this may be reaping what they sowed a little bit in being so arrogant about things in the past, but if they didn't knock out surge pricing, they would have also been accused of profiteering, right? And I mean to to go back to politics and technology I mean Brian Krasanich from from Intel today, you know sent out a big email to to employees about immigration and that situation But he also sits on the technology board for Trump Right, so you know there's there's there's a lot of stuff at play here and we will keep you abreast of it and try to to refrain from sharing our More subjective opinions on the matter you can as Tom said find that information elsewhere Let's talk coffee. Okay Starbucks has added a feature called my barista to its app that lets you order and pay Let's you order and pay by speaking or typing in natural language 1000 iOS customers will get access to the feature in a limited beta test a phased rollout is planned through summer 2017 Starbucks also launched a reorder skill for Amazon voice services to use AVS devices to order the usual as designated in the Starbucks app Yeah, so I this is interesting to me in a couple of ways One is the fact that you see Starbucks doing a traditional beta phased rollout Of a feature. This is the kind of thing you expect on iOS or Android, right? This is actually I feel like this is highly unusual I I don't know if I've ever seen really a big big company do a phased rollout so small Before I mean, this is a very pretty small cohort and I I'm really curious to see like How the results are gonna look? I mean as a product manager I'm like fascinated by this kind of stuff. But yeah by by a traditionally non technology company doing this Yeah, but you know the Starbucks app. I got to say I love it I'm not a big Starbucks drinker. I'm kind of a coffee snob, which we'll learn more about later But the app is really convenient. It works really well. They've integrated it across all of their stores I mean, I was in Tahoe this weekend Skiing and I didn't have any cash or cards on me but I happened to have my phone and I was able to buy a hot chocolate because That is like the most first world problem of all time But it was it worked the way it was supposed to and they accepted it as payment and and you know that convenience level is kind of What makes Starbucks such a such an amazing popular brand? Yeah, I have to say I have not so one who thinks I Have not someone who who thinks Starbucks coffee is that good? It's not a prejudice against the company per se It's just not my favorite coffee of the coffees that I usually have available I will say that I have found myself going to their stores more Because people will give me gift certificates and then the gift certificates go in the app And then the app is with me and I'm saying oh well, you know what? I have a gift certificate. I'll essentially be free So okay, and and now I'm gonna want to go try out this chat bot And I'm gonna I'm gonna want to try talking to it and I'm gonna want to try typing to it and see You know if there are any differences and another interesting thing in the article that I read here I think it was in the TechCrunch article was that they have had to figure out how to load balance Because if and actually it might be in the the article about cafe X Because when they first launched their app as a way to order so many people were using it that the baristas couldn't keep up with The number of orders coming in, you know because usually a line of people will will kind of Moderate how many orders are coming per second, but if everybody can order at once no matter where they are There's no rate limiting there. Yeah, I mean to me. It seems like a good I really would like to know how they solve for that problem You know, I can imagine that maybe they have a dedicated person working online orders And so they're able to kind of guess what that person's output is going to be and and give you know Acceptable time frames for when your coffee will be ready to the customer I think that would make a lot of sense, but you can't really factor in I Guess maybe they have a way to factor in live customers and be able to combo those together Maybe they can see the list of orders already up at that particular store and start merging those two listen together To get a an estimated time of finished coffee All right, let's actually Extend the coffee conversation and talk about the robot making coffee at cafe x But real quick to get all the tech headlines HdA in less than 10 minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines calm All right Cafe X is now open in San Francisco at the Metrion not the Metrion Metrion I believe it's AMC Metrion most late the AMC Metrion Is it the the is back? Okay? It's the AMC Metrion so hard to keep up Anyway, this is the second location. There's also a location in the Hong Kong Science Park That's that one's a little harder to get to I guess it's a little more exclusive You have to work in the business park Founded by Henry who they're located in San Francisco their next location is planned for Fremont, California So they're keeping going but the main focus of this place is that a Mitsubishi six-axis industrial robot that they call Gordon prepares your coffee and Addressing that barista problem. We mentioned earlier can do a hundred to a hundred twenty cups an hour Veronica Mm-hmm. I have actually seen this thing in action they were part of Jason Calakannis's launch incubator and so they presented and did a little showcase at the launch conference last year and I was also on board as one of the like rotating advisors for that class Of companies in the incubator I don't have any stock in this. There's no conflict of interest here. I have nothing to do with them But it was really fascinating to see how they built this thing and how they built the technology around it and the software And it's definitely, you know, it's coffee at, you know mass production levels But it's better than what you would get out of a curing. It's yeah somewhere in between You know in San Francisco that vending machine that has the poker on the bottom of the cups Exactly. It's definitely a few steps above that. Well, if you're wondering how this works There's a there's a company called WMF that makes these high-end coffee machines And you'll see them sometimes especially in airports and places like that. They produce good coffee. They're machine-made coffee, but they're good They are not the same as having a Chemex made, you know, hand-drawn barista, but for machine-made coffee They're they're they're quite acceptable and the WMF coffee machines are networked So they actually receive your order and prepare the order the robot arm is simply grabbing the coffee Placing it on one of eight warmers and then when you come up to retrieve your coffee It puts it in the bin for you on your side what happens is you either use a kiosk in the in the restaurant or an app you order the coffee and When it's ready, they text you a code you walk up to the counter type in your four-digit code and then the robot puts your coffee in the bay so that only you are getting your coffee if You don't pick it up within eight minutes of it getting made They dump it and they say they'll make a second one for you for free if you just got if you ran late unavoidably Yeah, they also I thought they were doing some geofencing stuff where you can place the order on the app And when the machine knows that you're within a certain distance That's when it prepares it to make sure it's you know ready to go and hot and fresh Yeah, it said in the and I think in the fast company article that they do they are trying to work in some Prioritization so that they make the coffee for the person They know is in the restaurant because they ordered at a kiosk before the person who's still around the corner And that's that's interesting too because the melt here in San Francisco I think they only have locations here in SF Use a similar technology to make sure that your grilled cheese is going to be hot and fresh When you're within like a one block radius of the store Well, and what's interesting about this too is that they're able to to get you faster coffee, right? They're able to charge you less It's only two dollars and twenty five cents for an espresso two dollars and ninety five cents for a latte Which depending on where you're in are in the country may or may not sound like that good of a deal But you're talking about four or five dollars for that if you go to a nearby San Francisco location, so this is this is quite a discount and One of the articles I read pointed out when you go to a coffee shop And I'm not talking about like a four barrel or something really special But you go to a pizza or a Starbucks your barista might be really good They might have been doing it for a long time or they might have just started that weekend and they're just not quite up to stuff No, no, that's not how it works. That's not how it works at those stores Tom. Not at a Starbucks Maybe at it. Okay. Oh you're talking about Starbucks not the third wave. I'm saying not at four barrel or a place like that But at a Starbucks or a Pete's that's right if you go there you're gonna you're gonna run into somebody who's who's getting up to speed So it depends on who's making your coffee. This is not going to be and this is what I'm trying to say This is not gonna be as good as a ritual, right where they're saying look we only hire the best people We train them up. We do it right every time It's not gonna be as as handcrafted as that But it's gonna be cheaper and it's gonna be consistent because it's going to be made the same way every time Yeah, I mean if you if you're just looking for a cup of coffee or an espresso Like this is going to be a pretty good answer for you If you're in a rush if you're on the go if you if it happens to be a longer regular morning commute Like that's a huge time saver as opposed to having to go into a Starbucks or a Pete's or someplace like that Where you're potentially waiting in line if you didn't use the app to to have you know Standing in line behind people who are getting much more complicated drinks being made Sometimes you just want a cup of coffee. I can totally relate to that. Yeah, and and these WMF machines They're you keep an eye out for them now that you know what they are Take a look at this article in our show notes. You see you'll see them everywhere And I mean you've got a little bit of the wow factor here, too I mean part of it is just the excitement of seeing the robot make people's coffee Yeah, there's there's a bit of that going on here as well, and I think that's that's kind of fun Yeah, and like you said, there's there's lots of other businesses trying to take advantage of the things that we've learned about technology apps And and applying them to other industries specifically food. There's a place called. How do you say it? Is it east? It's a it's it's a yeah, it's a they make quinoa based meals Don't stop listening yet that they use data science To make them taste as good as fast food now, you don't have to believe that that's true, but a lot of people say yeah No, they've they've done it. They've they make this taste like it shouldn't be good for me And and they do the same thing they actually use humans to prepare the food But you don't have to interact with humans you just order from a kiosk or and I don't know if there's an app But you order from a key There is you can do it online I think there's an app and there's one actually in in the fight I here in San Francisco I haven't tried it yet because it's a little bit further than I care to walk for lunch most days But it is supposed to be pretty healthy And you just go and you pick it up out of a box like you have a numbered area and you go and you open it up And you take your take your meal away. Yeah, and this is not too dissimilar from what they've been doing in Japan For for ages and ages where you make an order and you get the food comes out and you're just like here's my hot lunch Yeah It's optimizing for for speed efficiency and also health and the twist is they're they're using data science to monitor like What are the flavors that people respond to what what are the things that taste like a Good level of fat but don't actually contain the level of fat so that we can mimic all those buttons that make us want to eat junk food But deliver health food and you've eaten it. How is it? I Haven't eaten it. It's too far. I'll do this. I'll try to eat it this week And I'll report back for the next show. I misunderstood. I thought you had at least gone once, okay? Yeah, let us know. I haven't I'm very anybody else anybody else who's tried this or the robot Send it to us feedback at daily tech news show comm All right, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit comm Let's get a few messages of the day out of the way First of all Mike in Australia writes I use my surface pro 3 about 50 50 in tablet and laptop mode when I'm doing uni work I'm often either typing in laptop mode or reading or marking up in drawboard tablet mode Other times I'll use it when gaming for notes and maps. So that's usually tablet mode My wife uses one for work one of the things they sell or consult on Support is eye tracking hardware and software for people with disabilities and for movie and TV Consumption as well as normal business use. So it's used in both modes very frequently as well It's entirely possible that Australians are just weird in this case or it seems far less likely that in this house We're tech edgy cases But he's trying to make the case that we use the hybrid functions of these hybrid machines a lot more than maybe I was indicating on a previous show hmm You don't have a hybrid do you I don't I do I know because I was saying on a previous show is like I just I've got one. I've got a surface pro. I just don't pull it off into tablet mode very often But maybe if I had a surface pro 3, I Don't know You guess you never know until you try you just don't Finally our boss Rob in Damascus wrote in and said I work for a large multinational company that often hosts data for our customers We are in a constant effort to expand our physical presence with data centers in new locations to allow companies and governments Who are bound by legal restrictions regarding where their data may be kept to use our services? Most of these laws require local data to be kept within the jurisdiction are predicated on the notion that Providing for that data to be covered by local privacy law if a court were to overturn this week's decision This is the decision that said Microsoft doesn't have to turn over data in an Irish server based on a US warrant if a court were to overturn this week's decision and allow US companies to be subpoenaed for data held in foreign data centers by US entities Or really any company was standing in the US I can very quickly see away her away from doing business with American companies Because of this threat to local protection over data held locally Many countries the EU in particular have a stringent privacy protection in place Specifically in reaction to American overreach and data collection by law enforcement If I agreed to be a Microsoft customer on the condition that my data being held in an Irish data center And I found that data still subject to FBI review. He's diddling instead of review But uh, he said I would probably stop being a Microsoft customer and go with someone local Uh, so yeah, just just someone who is affected by this outside the US saying it will definitely make a Difference over which companies we decide to do business with Thank you rob in Damascus for writing in on that and thank you Veronica Belmont for being on the show What do you got going on to tell folks about? Oh, good goodness gracious. Uh, yeah, you can always follow my angry rants on twitter at Veronica I'm actually trying to stay away from twitter a little bit these days So I'm a little more quiet over there than I've previously been mental health stuff, you know Just taking some time trying not to constantly be raging at the world Um, and of course sultan laser this week. We're going to be interviewing author brian mclellan Um, nope. I'm wrong. It's going to be bradley below bradley bowyer. Yep. Yep Find out how to pronounce bradley's last name properly on the next sword But we are having brian mclellan on next month. I believe yes good authors. Exactly. We've got them all coming up So check about uh sword and laser dot com. All right before we go I'm going to replace my normal end of uh show regimen And just say no matter what you think about any kind of of policy or law There are definitely people in need of help. There are children Who are in refugee situations? There are mothers who want to get them help and there are organizations to help them I recommend rescue.org It was founded in 1933 at the request of albert einstein to help refugees from europe It was essential in getting europeans out of vici france and nazi occupied france It has worked with refugees from the korean war from the vietnam war From wars in africa southeast asia and of course the middle east And they continue to do their work. 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That's definitely you. Yeah. Yeah, these are all People always let people make fun of me for being angry, but you you are an angry person Uh, it's if a paper app falls on the woods ellipses. I'm not an angry person. I have angry perspectives Oh same as same as you roger. You're not actually an angry person No, i'm vindictive. Uh, oh snap. We're on the stock exchange Oh snap, we're on the stock exchange. Nice Results are not so fit Ah, I want to be fit. You know who works at fitbit. I need to check up with him. It's uh, my client Uh, turns out a lot of paper is popular Turns out papers. That's that's the title. No, I get it I was there's no reply Uh snap get snap coffee coffee coffee It's a funny desperate cry for caffeine What is that? Whoa, Steph. These are all uh, Stephanie ray. I kind of want robot machine is full of beans Okay, robot. What do you guys think who says robot anyway? Me I say it. That's why they're making fun of me. We can change it to robot. I still like it Robots it's an old it's an old Is it an instance joke? I don't even know robot arms robot arms. That's a tms joke. It is. Okay tms joke. Yeah It's a frog pants joke Yes, exactly it covers much ground It does robu double t robot All right, I have to go back to work. Okay guys Thank you, Veronica Okay, come on. Let me know what the I wish you know about monday as soon as I know Yes Thank you Yeah, there's an event for the project that i'm managing One of our big projects that needs managing uh next monday So I have to be there because the and because you're a project manager and it's a project. You'll need to manage it I'm not a project manager. I'm product manager manager. Well, then you don't need to go jobs Then why do you have to go? Did I say project manager? You said it was a project I'm product managing never mind. I'm gonna go go back to managing things Go manage a product somewhere Thanks, Veronica No, it's not No, it's not It's it's it's not it's probably just You're I don't know. I don't know. It may be perception or something, but it's definitely not. I'm sorry. I was just reading the chat Yes, I saw No, it's not. I like how quickly you jumped on her Like a like a leopard that pouts in the tree I Like a like a leopard that pouts in the tree He leaps. Well, it's only because we spent how long making sure that this shot Down here was pretty good We spent some effort on it. I'm just saying and so Roger and I made sure that this shot was clear I am not I'm using a Logitech. What is this? Is it a c920 or is it different? Maybe I don't know It's one of my least favorite things to get into troubleshooting the show on the show You know, they say people who can't let things go usually have really good memories Yeah, that's what makes it so hard to let go because you can never remove that impression from your mind I don't know why you're bringing that up right now. Roger Everyone that's ever wronged me is indelibly marked in my brain Memories somehow what made you think of that though. Oh, no about me being vindictive. I'm not vindictive. I'm not angry I just have Incredibly good memory for people who've wronged me You just have a very good memory. Yeah They said yeah, it was the thing is just like they just can't let it go because they always remember it And it's always like it's it's always fresh Mm-hmm Yes, bio cal says and yet schwood created an empire on troubleshooting online Except he had someone else to help do it I'm just need to have More people More people don't make roger angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry Chang hulk Well, those they get older I'm generally a little less Level to do anything because it's too much effort You mean anything vindictive? Yeah Like I used to have detailed plans written out like what I would do to some people. Yeah Um, just anyone who wronged me Man, I said this takes so much work It does It's like man for all the stuff It's true like a lot of things that used to really bother me when I was younger Don't bother me anymore mostly because I'm just like, you know what? I just don't have the energy to be bothered by that Like I had a whole thing about like how to stake out a person and figure out what the routine was And then you know, it was a multi-stage step. It would be something I would implement over a course of six to eight months You can't accuse me of being rash No, you're very methodical. It sounds like Yeah, no, I would and the thing is I didn't want to get caught. So I had all these steps to ensure that whatever You know pieces of evidence I would keep to a minimum It's almost sociopathic No, it's not sociopathic sociopathic means I can't feel empathy, right? I feel empathy But they feel bad the whole time you're doing it No, because I haven't done anything yet Sounds like a lack of empathy I don't know Although I will admit that my favorite South Park episode is the one where Carmen gets back at that bully Like he he secretly grinds up his parents as part of a bullet chili It's really creepy, but I loved it. Thank goodness. That's a cartoon. Yes. I kiss because you Ah, that's it Scott tenerman. Thanks captain jack Scott tenerman who's got tenerman that is that was Um Eric Hartman in South Park's nemesis He was trying to train a pony to bite off his Genital by using a core or carry. Oh man. Why do you got to talk about stuff like that? Sorry It sounds horrible. I'm sure it is Yeah, tuxjib just expressed my exact exact feelings The list is long and the day is short. So I sort of just shrugged my shoulders and uh What I said the day is the list is long, but the days are short and I said it's way too much work What is to do all that to plan all the way to plan on my revenge topic. I didn't realize Everything for revenge movies. I know you do. It's a little odd Why Is it odd if it wasn't if it wasn't so weird they wouldn't make them really Because someone makes something it can't be odd. Let's let's look at the rest of the internet And you had uh Not jett nelson. Who's the other guy the english guy Pretty good looking and then he kind of went bald and then suddenly had hair again Jude law Oh, what jude law went bald? Yeah for a while it seemed like And then he got here again He's not that old Is he you don't have to be old to be bald. That's true I knew a guy from hasco had the unfortunate Well, I should say unfortunate. It's really just uh, it's really just a uh societal Yeah, jude law is 44. So Ah, it's older than me. I don't know where you're getting this. He went bald and then stopped Here, I'll send you I'm looking at It just looks like I'm just tired of people picking on other people Okay Like how would you feel if you're a jude law? Really wealthy and pretty Content, but that doesn't make it okay to be picked on How many times I just mentioned it once It's Like today I've never I've never had an ongoing dispute with jude law. So that was a better It was a better how many times Oh, I Started watching the young pope speaking of jude law He's very good in it. Did you love kill bill? I sting wants to know. Yes. I love to kill bill Yeah, I didn't think I didn't know why it was two movies. So I still don't know why it was two movies because it was too long Look Howl's has a good I know he said I should stop picking on you. I'm sorry I'll stop picking on you for being vindictive picking on jude law talking about people getting hit in the genitals How rude of me This is why people love the pre-show or the post-show or whatever Listen, he's jude law's a great act. I know I should be careful. Roger. I'll get his revenge on me You're right kv-87 Law's gonna get his revenge on you roger I think he really has he's like super successful. I think he has a pretty pretty say the best revenge is good living Right. He is not divorced Be good I'm falling down that trap No, billy zane billy zane No, I'm trying to think of the last movie. I saw billy zane and I think the last one was uh Was it titanic? What's it in titanic? Was he in titanic? I never really finished watching titanic all at once so I Forget a lot of that. I think I've eventually saw the whole thing, but Not all of it go Oh, he divorced or jude law divorced All right, he just had a standard Hollywood life He's really good in the young pope. We're gonna talk about it on cord killers It's gonna be a papal discussion Yes It might turn encyclical There's an interesting premise for a series of novels. What if the catholic church invented space travel? Oh, well, there is that That exists. Oh, really? There's like a several. Yeah I mean a canticle for libo wits is a little bit along those lines, but also um shoot we read one for Sword and laser and now I'm blanket on the name of it crucifix in the cosmos No I gotta I gotta finish putting in this metadata and then I'll look at it It was basically Jesuits Did the first did first contact? They built a series of missions on different planets. It was Jesuits in space Look space robes The sparrow Oh The sparrow by mary doria russell. It's really good too I'll have to watch it. I mean read it watching us so bad Ancient pope aliens The young pope's good because it's not what I expected And they bill it is like oh a young american gets uh elected pope What'll happen when he upends the order and i'm like, okay, maybe you know could be good It's not it's not what you think Does it does it have conspiracies in it? Uh, yes for sure But they're you know, they're very believable conspiracies. It's not like dan brown or anything. I've almost got everything uploaded That robot machine is full of beans Robot robot robot Everybody has a robot Publishing now whoo All right. Thanks everybody for watching. It's nice to be back downstairs. We'll talk to you tomorrow fight