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Loved it Thanks, Anita for writing in and if you write in I promise I'm going to start sharing more of these so it's not just for my eyes or my team's eyes and Welcome everybody to Dare to Dream this show is sponsored by Dr. Dane here and access consciousness They do extraordinary healing work out into the world energy work So if you want something changed like that you can become a facilitator You can go to one of their workshops. Obviously, they're doing a lot of things online now and you can buy their products There's lots of ways to connect with them. Go to dr. Dane Da in here com as Well as access consciousness Com my question to you is do you want to learn the roadmap to meaning success and abundance? I know I do my guest today is Corey Poirier Who is a multiple-time TEDx speaker and sought after keynote? He has spoken on Mo Mondays and PMX stages He shared the bill with some pretty cool people like John C. Maxwell Deepak Chopra Steven Covey and General Hilly a and is presented to thousands of attendees My friend Corey is the host of the top-rated conversations with passion radio show For the love of speaking show and he's the founder of the speaking program Corey has been featured in multiple TV specials and he's been seen on CBS CTV NBC ABC and he's been heard twice on the popular on I love this entrepreneur on fire show You go that you got to ask back a columnist with entrepreneur and Forbes Corey has been interviewed on over 4,000 he has interviewed over 4,000 of the world's top leaders you could visit him at his website Corey Poirier calm and it's COREY P as in Paul. Oh, I are I E r.com And I welcome my fabulous friend Corey to the dare to dream show. Yay. Great to have you I am so excited to be here and it's interesting that you maybe this was a mysterious coincidence That you mentioned James off the top and I think we talked about you know with my book James wrote the forward and Him and I are working on a big project together. So yeah, so I mean, it's it's pretty cool I mean, that's not a coincidence that you picked that review to read So I just think that's super cool It is actually very strange because I didn't mindfully pick it and yet I do know that his forward was in your book and I have to say I adore this guy So please put in a big hello from me and I can understand why you'd want to work with him He's he's a person for our times right now And I want you to tell people because that's so beautiful a bio that you have and it's pretty clear what you do I like that Will you explain what do you serve up? What's what's Corey's dish to shore? What is the work you do out into the world? So it's when it started the work that I did was really I was going to I'll say a speaker keynote speaker really because that most people have a feeling they've had a speaker at their event They've been an event with a speaker So my core business for a long time was me going to speak in front of an association or a corporate client Then bringing me in introducing me to their staff and hopefully me educating inspiring and motivating their staff That was how it all started but then somewhere along the way I got obsessed with interviewing people So I started a newspaper believe it or not when I was 19 and it failed I mean it went it went out of business and I say I failed to think of a bank or anything I chose to close it, but I knew the writing was on the wall Number years later when I was a full-time speaker. I said, you know, I could open the doors on this paper again It was never closed properly So I launched what I will call similar to success magazine a regional publication like that and ran it for I would say about close to seven years monthly and What's really interesting Debbie is when people say to me, how did you get that many interviews in it's not all on podcast like it started with that newspaper where I was doing some months 80 interviews in a month and So I had that newspaper running and that's kind of where I went from just the guy speaking on stages to realizing it could be so much more than this and The interesting part of this whole journey for me is I expected it to continue down the path of let's say what The best way I can say it is the thought leader path like so what zig-ziggler did what Brenda Marchard does What Lisa Nichols does? I thought it would solely be that path at first And then what happened kind of threw me off a course about five years ago Is people started coming to me saying how are you getting paid to speak on these stages? You know I see that you're posting five times a week that you're speaking somewhere And are you getting paid and my answer was always yes, and they're like how are you doing this? And at the time I've been doing it about 12 years and I thought it was normal I thought everybody was speaking was getting paid all the time like I knew obviously because I was a professional speaker I knew people were selling from the stage I knew other people were going and doing no fee bookings But I thought everybody that put sought after speaker was getting paid to speak all the time And you would be surprised that some of the people the resume They had who weren't getting paid yet who came to me and said help and after you get a question a certain amount of times You're like I need to start helping people in a bigger way than just answering one-on-one So five years ago. I launched the speaking program which is kind of the catalyst for launching the podcast around speaking and also I launched a book called the book of public speaking and Ultimately two years ago launched a program helping people and their brand of talks like 10x and stuff like that So five years ago this started Pushing me in a different path than just me sharing my message with audiences to now helping other people get on stages And or use the written word to share messages with other people So what I've sort of done is kind of like created the best way I can describe is I'm trying to ultimately get to Where it's almost like an influencer Academy And so helping people whether it's from the stage whether it's through their voice whether it's from the written word I want to help have a small direct impact on them impacting a lot more lives. So that's how many people need this This is huge. I know I have clients who come aboard who are like do you do speaking to people are hilarious, right? Do you have anything to do with visibility? Clearly you cover all of it. No, you do not so no It's not my niche. So that's great because I'm actually even taking notes that I'll probably invite you into a program. I'm gonna be running to introduce you to my people and So many questions come up when I hear you say this the first thing I want to cover is Corey. Were you ever afraid? So did you ever? Now it wouldn't be so there's no way not with how much you're speaking and this must be just second hand You know, you could light up a cigar and grab a glass of cognac and you're good, but was it always like that? So the answer is Unequivocally, no, it was not always like this. In fact now, I here's the catch way to I wasn't the guy You know because some people will say I was terrified of speaking. Nobody would ever saw me as a speaker I'll say that I think people may have saw me as a speaker because I was so social I was very social my mother very talkative. I got that through and through But just as you know just because you're social doesn't mean you can get on a stage in front of people and talk And so I was that guy where I was I was in front of a group of ten of my friends I could be the life of the party but to get on a stage and say something meaningful was a totally different business And so I was that guy truly who I spoke one time in front of a group of ten entrepreneurs and a program I was in and I turned shades of color. I spoke in front of a group that was about the difficulties young entrepreneurs face it was an entrepreneurial association and I was invited as a young entrepreneur and I didn't prepare and At the end that person said, you know, you you turn every shade of color except for the color You started with and and I was like sweating and almost passing And then my third time in front of an audience was actually on a stage I mean there's a whole story behind this but I get tricked into doing stand-up comedy Which doesn't make sense. How can you get tricked into doing stand-up? but I did and so that was my third time ever in front of an audience and It was horrible. Like I bombed like I told my jokes to a dead audience dead silence And then The mic wasn't turned on I found out turn the mic on told the same jokes again, and they bombed again So the only comic I think was bombed with the same material twice And that was my first three times on stage. So no, I was not comfortable and do I still get nervous 100% Yeah, I do but the difference is it's What would you call it a contained? It's an excitement, but it's a nervousness that I It's almost like a comfortable nervousness like it's really nervousness and you know I'm sometimes depending in the audience. I could be even shaking inside, but it's still It serves me. I know it's gonna be a nervousness That's gonna serve me on the stage rather than something's gonna keep me from the stage So I can tell you this after bombing at that stand-up comedy show I started going back week after week and I was I was obsessed and I was bombing every week And I was sweating every week and I was almost passing out every week and I kept going back So the one thing I can tell you is since that time I've never said I was gonna be at a stage and then they can get up on the stage So even Ted X which is like the most nerve-wracking stage ever. I can I still I was terrified I still get up like there. So what I can tell you is even though. Yes, the nervousness never left Yes, I started off as somebody who can't get on couldn't get on stages at all Now the one difference is I can tell you I'll never look regret that I didn't step on a stage I love that. No regrets. That's really powerful really powerful And it's really powerful to bomb at something and then make it your mission to go back and become an expert at it Like make it your mission like I'm gonna do this and be this and now you are I Didn't even telling the story of bombing. I think it's hilarious Well, I have to tell you I actually share that story when I opened some of my speaking engagements But I shared a story recently on our show with my girlfriend who became my guest for a few weeks as we were getting Ready to launch the new book and I shared a story that she had never heard So I'm gonna share because I've never shared it publicly other than recently on my show But people always ask me how did you get on the stage that night and you know and like I say Maybe there's a whole like ten minutes story behind the whole situation and it started because I asked somebody How can I get comfortable on stages and they said oh did you hear about the local workshop and stand-up comedy and I'm like That sounds terrifying. Yeah, let's do it because you're gonna face the fear and so here's where here's what helped me do it So I'm sitting there and we're about 15 minutes of showtime. We didn't know this is the trick part We didn't know we were gonna be on the stage that night. He didn't tell us it was us He actually told us we were promoting the show for other entertainers and then when we questioned him He said no, yeah, Cory's gonna be on stage and Bill's gonna be watching so Cory's the other entertainer while Bill's sitting down So he just had this whole thing of a tricking us to perform that night Here's the thing so people say how did you do it? Like you were that terrified? Here's what popped in my head and I can't explain it again Maybe it's a mysterious coincidence or it was meant to happen some way shape or form But what I what I did was I visualized myself sitting at that bar as an older Cory Watching other people get on a stand-up comedy stage that night and saying, you know, I almost did that one time and The fear of the regret of not doing it was so much bigger than the fear of doing it I had no choice but to do it. So it was that vision that pushed me to do it that way. Oh Mg But I never shared that I forgot about that until recently and I'm like, why am I not sharing this with people? Because that's what happened to my head and I thought it was weird to have that vision But it served me I guess that is a powerful vision what? what a vision to have and I can imagine that for so many things people who are listening that they want to create and I of course, you know dare to dream. I've taught dreams. I've written books about dreams and achieving I know this and why do I know it intimately because I have it too and I know the idea of this giant yummy inspirational thing popping from your belly into your Your your head and your mind and like all of what's possible and you're there and it's fabulous and All of a sudden the hitch starts. Yeah, but you know, you can't because of this Yeah, but you know if you do that what and all the what ifs and the why nots come up and that becomes the prevalent picture And so I have my ways of assuaging that so I don't have to live in that space because that'll take me down every time That'll become my truth. That'll become the real picture and I know I cannot live that way And I love that you're giving us a tool right here saying what if you were the person Sitting whether it's a bar stool or whether you're just watching the movie of your life, right? Once you've passed over or you're at the your end days and you say, yeah, I must went on that trip Yeah, I must told that person. I loved him. Yeah, I must wrote that book. Oh Painful no one wants to live with regret like that's a that's a bad Reg RET six letter word really bad word, you know, you probably witnessed this because you've interviewed so many people What I've noticed is and I've noticed this early on but it hasn't changed is that regret For most people is worse than failing by 10, you know a million miles I'll say people when they come out especially people that are maybe influencers that are like 70 plus You know, we had Jack Canfield on the show a few years ago He's 69 I think at the time and that was something he talked about is that, you know In all his years when he's watched people that he knew along the way That they usually regret the stuff they regret is Bigger than the stuff that they tried and failed at, you know, they have they regret they're like, you know what? I wish I would have tried that and failed because their regrets eating me alive Yeah, so I think regret is always worse than trying and fail Yeah, because you could have you know, you could have and you know, you will never know the possibilities if you had So, yeah, that's very painful and nobody needs that Really and I'm so deep into that both as a healer who says, you know, the one of the most important things We can do on the planet is to our excuses I have to express ourselves. I think expressing ourselves like I've made that, you know I had a couple of people very meaningful to me die in my life my grandparents Really help raise me very important in my life Outstanding human beings like I'm very much like my grandfather I get a lot of what I do. He was International who's who of music he wrote books. He spoke her all around the world He was an amazing personality a great listener and all of that And I love my grandfather deeply and I have to say when they died it was like I knew I couldn't let them leave with a song in my heart meaning I had to tell them how I felt I was really very Very expressive about my love and everything they've met and I've done that with everybody Thankfully who's ever passed and then I've learned okay and about the living, you know that too You've got to express yourself at the least but even for a lot of people with regret. They don't say they don't forgive They don't tell the truth, you know, and I think all of that's as important as dreams. I really do So Yeah, you can tell I'm somewhat passionate about this subject Absolutely, and I'll tell you if this helps and serves people People ask me all the time and it's something I started I didn't start it right away in the book But early in the book I mentioned this because I think it's so important But I often ask an audience how many people here have a personal mission statement And I could tell you I can ask that in a room of a thousand people and only two hands go up And I find it interesting that the top companies have a powerful mission statement That's easy to remember and they all know it and now I say they all know it I mean the employees know it even if they don't know what the wording is So like Disney knows you're supposed to have every person leave the park happy You know so so even if they get things wrong if long as most of their cast members as they call them Get that then they're going to have a better day than an organization where they don't know at all What they're supposed to be doing and so I find it interesting that most people don't have a personal mission statement Even though we know it's why most companies Succeed because they know what they're supposed to be doing and they're aligned and so I talk about the book the importance Of your own personal mission statement and so mine is to be the guy who motivates Donates inspires Educates and entertains. That's my five-point system Now why I bring this up is because this allows me to say no without regret and yes without regret because here's what I do When somebody asked me to take on something or to help them with something or just do something I look and say is it going to serve Most of those five and if it is and now especially if we're talking business But this serves my personal life as well But if it's for those five, it's the easiest yes ever and I never regret it and I know it's the right answer If it's zero of those five It's the easiest no ever and I know I won't regret it And so we talked about living with regret that served me so well as to know what my mission statement is because it serves It's what moves the needle for me towards what I'm trying to achieve and My bigger purpose which by the way is to create a positive ripple indirectly and or directly in Other people's lives every day And so so knowing that so those five things help me do that And so if it's zero and somebody saying you need to do this because but it's zero of those things like for example They're like we want you to come and speak, but you can't educate people and you can't entertain and you can't get back No, sorry somebody wants to come on a show and and none of those things you know to say me promoting myself So it's it could be the greatest show in the world and they say we don't want to promote yourself That's fine because I'm still doing those five things But if somebody says we want you to come on a show again and it's not about educating people is not about inspiring it's not about Motivating people so you can't entertain them then me. It's like why am I gonna do this? It doesn't fit It's not me. So that's how I choose and that's how I walk away with their regrets now That's really beautiful. You know and speaking of promotion. Oh, you know, so this is so interesting You can't you could see pieces. This is like Here's pieces of his book And there you go you mirror me, but I want to say it's a beautiful book Corey I know you and I have to say it was kind of moved by how articulate you are This is gonna sound so weird, but you're incredibly bright like really because I teach book I coach people how to write a book. I work with tons of authors I've got a program that takes people to international bestseller yada yada So this is like I digest a lot of these and I just got to say That's the thing that struck me I mean it was a lot of care that you put into this book and how you presented it and what you chose to talk about So thank you for that. I I can really receive it Well, I appreciate that and I'll add one thing that I don't share this much But it probably surprises people but maybe it's a tip for writers or actually anybody, but let's say for writers You'll probably notice the style I wrote in was a little bit of a throwback to the older style of writing like they can grow rich and Magic of thinking big and how to win friends Those are that's those are my that's my jam, you know those books And so and actually the first two books I've read in my life how to win friends and they can grow rich First one was at age 27 So I didn't start reading early and I have to say what I did was anytime I was sitting down to write I actually went back and read a portion of those books to get myself in the mindset Because that's my favorite style, but not most books started that style So I think it's I it wasn't intentional or planned or a strategic move But people said to me geez that's amazing if I like a speaker I don't want to obviously copy them But if I like their style and um and my style similar I probably should watch their talks And you know, then I'm gonna if on a regular basis. So then I actually carry that with me You know, I have some of that style with me So anyway, that's that's something I did unintentionally, but it served me really well No, that's you know, amazing because I studied, you know, even as a coach, obviously you still get coach So I went to a really high-end program and I worked with uh, steven kotler for those who have ever read stealing fire and Pause small furry prayer and my god. He's written so much. He's amazing out in the world Now he was such a fan and been on my show. So I took his writing class And that's one of the things he teaches is you can open a book I don't want to give away his information, but I'll just say to to utilize someone else's material to inspire you You're never going to copy obviously that listeners But I am saying that there is a vibration in how somebody writes in a rhythm in a way They express themselves and you can literally use the energetics of that to put your own message out It's sort of a beautiful container what Cory's talking about and I'm curious And thank you for sharing your mission because I know your book starts out that you share your mission and who you are Why you're here and you live a big life, right? You're a doer like I want to do that. I'm gonna make it happen How did you get james redfield to write your forward? So, you know, this is I'm gonna say It's an interesting question because I've been asked this question quite a bit lately Excuse me Much like the version you did you have we haven't added in the endorsement yet because a lot of them came in After the book was done. So we're actually working on changing that now. So I've been getting that question as well So I'm going to give you the answer the same answer for both But people are asking how did you get john gray to endorse the book? How did you get t. Harbecker to endorse the book? and You know, there's two things that here's that that answer nobody wants to hear is and you you've done the same thing Is well, no, I mean the other side is you put the time in so one hand one of the things is I built this over a long time I've been trying to give value for a long time to a lot of people But I'm going to give you a more a strategic answer than that But I'm going to say that's one thing is there's really no I don't think there's much of a shortcut for actually putting other people first I don't think you can get As much buy-in if you just send and say hey do an endorsement for me I I think if the relationship is bigger before that Then I think for them, they're going to want to read it They're actually going to want to put the time and they're going to want to say what did debbie do here versus Just getting a book in the mail. So I'll answer it about james What happened was because james important note here james doesn't endorse many books or write many forwards and so Here's how it happened and this is a mysterious coincidence. I told james this recently. He didn't know this But how we got connected it wasn't an accident But it was amazing how it all came to place is my girlfriend has never asked me to interview anybody So here i'm out interviewing all these people and she's a big like she fangirls out over a lot of people So i'm like, how are you not asking me? How do you not have a list? So one day I finally convinced her to put a list of five people together That was all she put together here these five people and one of them was david g One of them was tommy rosin But one was james redfield james was the first in the list and I said so why james and I knew of his work And I'd read the book But it was a little while I was removed from it and so I said why james and she said well That was the book that changed everything for me. You know because it's the perfect age for her She was in university and she said it was the first spiritual style book She ever read like the first book that in any way shape or form talked about energy. That's true. Yeah Yeah, and so that was her thing and so she said so he impacted my life in such a big way So the interesting part now People can't replicate this as much anymore because at the time James's email was on the website and is and sally is wipes So at the time it was slightly easier because I was able to email They didn't reply but his daughter did and so his daughter replied to me and said, you know I got your request for the interview. I'd like to make it happen Now here's the part I want to tell people if you're looking for how do I get some names? To help me with projects is a big word called leverage. So what I've done Was the hardest ones are always the first ones. But then as you know, it's easier to leverage The influencers that do trust you for the next ones. So as an example where it all started for me is jack canfield I actually approached jack's team I took four months to get the interview. They told me at the time He turns down nine out of every ten because he wasn't working on any new projects And so most people would have given up, but I don't I'm not most people So what I did was I listened to a success magazine interview with darin hurdy interviewing Dan Sullivan who runs strategic coach and I heard dan in the interview say and I listened every month. So it was just By nature I heard the interview and he said, uh, oh, yeah Darin so some of your clients are who's who and he started listening. I think joe polish is one mark victor handson jack canfield And they're like, wait a minute. I'm trying to get jack on my show Uh, this guy here who I didn't know who Dan was jack obviously looks up to him if he's jack's coach So I listened to the interview and he said in the interview This is one of my favorite interviews ever and my interview style was like darin hurdy's So when I did it first I went to dan's office and said I'd like to get dan on the show And he said success magazine was one of his favorite interviews ours is a similar style So they were intrigued by that and then and I wanted the end of the show. Anyway, I got him in the show And here's where the rubber hits the road what I did was I said, um I started talking with jack a little bit and then he said, you know, you need to bring jack on the show He'd love this show. So then I took that clip Send it to jack's team and said he didn't think jack should be in the show And then they came back the next morning and said, okay, kori. He said he'll do it And then when it aired this is the cool part that story the day before he was on a rerun of larry king live And the day after my show he was on the old network on super soul sunday And it was on my show that was just launching we hadn't by the way We didn't have an episode yet They didn't ask me listenership or anything and so you see where that goes right now We have dan now we have jack and then it was able to leverage those two to get the next guest And then it's easier when you have three and then four and so that's what happened So by the time I approached james, I think I don't know but I didn't and I always customize it So I would look at who do I have that I've interviewed that are in the similar circle to james And so I sent those names and then when they said yes, we did an interview and this is the funny part It was in a food court I had to do the interview because I was on my way to the office and something happened in the way that slowed me down So I did the interview in a food court and I said, you know, we're remote where stuff is happening Anyway, and I'm like there's no one he's ever going to do an interview with me again Terrible. Anyway, they came back said he loved your interview style They didn't comment that people like the quality of the sound But he liked the interview style and then I met him at the life conscious expo intentionally like I was going Anyway, so I was there reached out we did our second interview in person And then his daughter came back and said dad said he's got to be interviewed value getting loves your interview style And so where it went from that is literally we said let's do a series And we just started doing interview after interview And so what I can truly say is that was quite a while ago now like maybe three years ago And so we're probably what 25 interviews in over time And so the short answer now after all that is I built a relationship and I would I would say we're friends I mean we text on a weekly basis So but it built from that But I mean you probably saw a whole bunch of hints when people were saying how do I do that in there? You need to leverage you need to get some big names to start with You need to be willing to put yourself out there You need to be creative like again I took the clip and sent it off and then at the same time you need to get value first So there's maybe five tips for how I gotta add a six because this is imperative Then when they met with you you had the goods Right you had the talent you had the synergy to connect with them You had an interview style that made them say I'd like to collaborate with you further Sort of everything because we can pull people in and we can create influential relationships But if you show up empty-handed Nobody wants to play anymore and it won't go further But you had the goods and you worked on it long enough 4 000 people you've interviewed that's very important You put it well, and I'll add one last component because this is important This one here is just more to speak for James in terms of his integrity One of the things that he did which I loved is even after all what I just told you The forward part didn't come up until after all of that And at that point he even had an agent that he was working with that He was putting me in touch with and even still at that point he hadn't written the forwarder agreed to it He said you need to send me the books so I could read it first And now that's a key thing because I mentioned relationships There's some people if you built that strong of a relationship they would say yeah, I'll just Just tell me what the books about but he still Read the book went through it and was able to cite that in the forward I think that's a credit to him because his integrity and his name Was too important because he has a big following of people that trust him that he wasn't going to put his name on it Until he was ready So I got to add that in because it wasn't just like we became friends. They see I'll do your forward It wasn't as simple so good. James is a good human He's been on the show He wants to create a series with me and I need to thank you for this because that's like notice health I need to reach out and make that happen now with him because yeah, I'm I'm pretty much um I feel very connected with him deeply and I feel really connected with that the work that he's doing It's it was timely back then to usher most of us into this conversation of metaphysics and what's possible I feel like now more than ever we need his voice So we're gonna right we're gonna head to a really quick break here And then we'll be back with more with the amazing quarry I just want to let people know if you have a dream if you don't want to live with regrets You know, I teach the ultimate visibility formula It teaches you how to be interviewed and how to get results on media And it can be done and you can do it really easily and successfully. 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So if you're interested just register DEBB ID dot net slash anthology That's debbie d dot net slash anthology And I'll be thrilled to have you come aboard. I know I tracked really the most perfect people so Welcome to the anthology about dogs It's positively perfect I had to go there. I had to go there Okay If you're tuning in to dear to dream after we started i'm debbie dashinger. I am interviewing quarry pourier He's a multiple ted ex sought after keynote speaker and author of the new book the book of why You can find out more at quarry pourier dot com And uh quarry in the time we have left i'm going to see how much we can cover because you really give a lot of value And insight and I appreciate that so much You have something called a better life formula. Will you share what that is? Yeah, and I think it's it's a really good fit for this show because the formula itself What's really neat about it to me is it's it's all first of all the intangible stuff. It's very intangible But it's all stuff that healers Fully understand and get I think it which is energy, of course So I say that because you know, not everybody is totally bought in on energy even though it's been proven So and I say this because I talked to you know friends. I grew up, but they're just like When I start talking about that they're like, he's a wizard. What's going on? You know, they haven't bought in so uh, so here's what I've discovered is the better life formula And what it's in reference to when I say it's the better life formula It's really what I've discovered that the top influencers I used to call them the enlightened super achievers what they do differently than everybody else And here's the definition of an enlightened super achiever because people used to wonder What type of person do you mean and why that name and the reason was is because I used to say high achievers and I'd watch the audience They would get a different vibe or energy and I was like what's going on there and when I surveyed finally I'm like I need to ask this question. Why is this being received negatively? It's because so many people have worked with high achievers that have stepped on other people to get to where they're at So then I started saying, okay, it needs to be enlightened and but I still need to get rid of the high achiever So that's where the super achiever came in. So but I'll give you an example as far as visually to me an enlightened super achiever would be I mentioned her earlier, but at least the nickels Um, uh, ziggziggler, uh, jim roan late jim roan Tony robbins and whether people, you know, some people may not be fans or our fans But what I'm getting at why I say these people Is because they don't just get to the top of the mountain they pull other people up with them They push other people up in front of them So to me that's an enlightened super achiever. And so I wanted to know for those people What is what how are they so happy all the time? How are they fulfilled seemingly? How are they? You know, how can they walk around and not be you know going? The world's gonna end whenever they're putting in so much of their energy and time and life and everything they do And of course they're already maxed out. So I'm like, how are they doing this? How are they sort of still having time for yoga meditation and all these other things? And you know, sometimes it's because they do yoga meditation that they have the extra time But that's a whole other conversation. But what I discovered in this formula was three things So the first one is and this one's the easiest one to say but maybe the hardest one to get Which is they're living on purpose And so it's really the core essence of the book is finding your why so they're living their why And so, you know, if for example, I mentioned for me, it's creating an invisible or visible ripple Well, for me when I'm doing that That's what lights my fire and that makes me happier. I think it makes me Um as a person healthier and I get sick less often and people want to be around me more I think because of it and and I have this high energy that I clearly have without taking anything You know, and so and I actually said in the book You probably remember as I take vitamin p which is for passion and purpose And I say it's the vitamin you can't buy in the store, but it's the one everybody should be taking And so the point I'm getting at here is with the better life formula One of those three elements is finding your purpose and your column So that's one and you know, we can certainly talk more about if we want to and more depth In the book, obviously I share strategy for how to do that The second one is increasing your positive energy And so when I say positive energy, I mean really your mindset as well like your positivity And what I talk about in the formula is actual strategies to do this because it's easy to say be happier Or have a smile on your face or walk around the positive energy or fake it till you make it But I'm I'm a believer that there's actual strategy we can do so give you an example If I talk about increasing positive energy, maybe it means every morning when you wake up you go read a ziggler quote You know just as an example or when you wake up you Get on a call with somebody who you know is going to give you some inspirational moment Or it could mean that you this is something I talk about you actually do an inventory Of who you're surrounding yourself with see who's adding positive who's adding negatives and make adjustments accordingly And so if you're surrounding yourself with the right people that's going to add more positive energy And you know more positive people more positive energy because I think if you start it with 10 negative people in your life and two positives You're going to already have an uphill battle before you wake up every day in being a positive person So increasing your positive energy, I believe there's strategies and I go into a lot of that The second part is decreasing negative strategies And so it's kind of the opposite right get rid of the toxic people or at least reduce the time with them because I think some of the challenges sometimes people only speak in absolutes and I don't think we're always in absolute so your mother could be the negative person But you could love her dearly So I'm not saying kick your mother to the curb because she's negative But I am saying maybe reduce the time you spend with her Or try to switch the conversation back to positive when she's bringing you down the negative manhole So for the actual formula is essentially finding ways to increase your positive energy So these enlightened super achievers they find ways to increase their positive energy pretty much on a daily basis Jack camp fields our powers an example of doing that They find ways to decrease their negative energy. So get rid of still and go into news detox That's something I've been talking about for a long time go into news detox get rid of the negative news And I actually did a video that I was planning to share It's kind of timely right now about the importance of yeah, it's good to be informed But if you know that you're a person that lives in fear when you hear about the stuff Maybe you just find a buddy who doesn't live in fear and say just give me the stuff I need to know to protect myself and then don't go and still Dive into the news and read the front of the newspaper and on the stage I used to do a dramatic thing where I'd say if you have to read the newspaper and I'd rip off the first few pages They'd say start there because all the negative is on the front right So that's the second part is decreasing negative and the final part is finding your calling or your purpose If you have those three things in place I think it's going to be very hard for you to actually not be successful abundant Living a meaningful life because again think about it You have strategy for decreasing the amount of negativity in your life strategy for increasing the positivity and you're living your purpose I don't know if it gets much sweeter than that Yeah, that's beautiful. Well, you know, you brought up some really interesting points and part of what you're talking about and then also referencing today I care about you. I know you make a living speaking I also know this time we are living in which are very interesting Unheard of unprecedented on some level times I'm curious if you don't mind to share. How is this impacting you in your career? How are you speaking? How are you making money? But what's going on? so I would love okay, so I'm going to give you A unique answer to this question because I would love to tell you Debbie because I think it would be a sexier answer And it would maybe even help more people. I would love to tell you that Um, the answer is that I you know, I found this way to still do a live booking even though nobody's doing live events You know or whatever get paying them to maybe send me there and I'm speaking to their staff be a satellite But here's what happened and again if you believe in mysterious coincidences if you believe that there's synchronicities For the first time in 18 years as a paid speaker who's pretty much spoken Three times a week for most of those years For the first time because I'm launching a new brand I had shifted gears and I purposely was turning down bookings and actually handing them to students so for the first time ever I didn't want bookings and I hate to say it but I'm seeing so many people colleagues of mine that are losing 10 and 15 and 20 bookings all at one Like literally in one week And so what's happened with me is we're we have a brand called blue talks That we we're still actually launching next month. We still haven't officially launched, but it's similar to tedx And we've run three events. In fact, whenever we were last together at the new media summit I was shoving off to do the first one of those and so what we've done is we went around filmed about 40 speakers We're we have a whole we have six events planned this year, but they're all at the end of the year that even worked out that way But um, so those we're getting those videos ready to start sharing We're launching a podcast with it and a book series So all centered around this brand so I needed the time to launch this brand and launch my book of why And so I didn't book stuff for the first time in forever And so it actually it meant that I didn't lose a whole bunch of bookings now In fairness as a speaker a lot of people don't know this but I will answer the question for some of the speakers out there They'll still be okay for one reason if they set themselves up like this Which is one of the things I teach in my program is you need to get a deposit And so for some of these speakers Let's say they had 40 bookings booked for the next two months that are canceled They would have gotten paid half of that already And because of the circumstances Very unlikely that the client's going to ask for it back when they know they're canceling on the speaker A lot of clients have been really good to say what they'll pay the airfare Even if the speaker had paid it was going to get paid later So but here's the catch with that and you know how this works The catches they would have had to put that money aside So if they've already spent that deposit money, then it's going to be a lot harder But what I'm saying is if they uh got that deposit money So 50 percent of all those 40 bookings and they didn't blow through all that money Then they'll still have a little bit to carry them through Until they start getting bookings again And then the other light at the end of the tunnel which is more important than that because You know, it's easy to say that but we never know when a circumstance is going to come up So we might not be saving for a rainy day. Maybe we're investing in a new home or who knows But the other side is once this the dust settles and it will I put a quote up the other day and said Uh in times like these it's always helpful to remember. There have always been times like these Yes, and it wasn't my quote. It's somebody else's but um, it's and the quote's probably from 100 years ago I don't know but you know, there's been the plague. There's been the black death. I think there's been hiv in our lifetime There's been stars the bursar the bird flu the swine flu more death The thing about it is is that my experience Things almost always get from i'm just talking now business perspective, but things almost always get stronger right afterward The other side is I think we get stronger as people going through it But when I say they always get stronger if you think about the speaking business Here's what I think is going to happen. The only catch is winter events going to be back on again But when they are You're going to have a whole bunch of new bookings because you're going to clients that didn't get to run their event They're going to be super pumped and craving speakers and live events You're going to have people that are craving live events that want to go and buy tickets to Events where people are running their own event and then the other side, which is a big one Is those speakers like me? I did have some bookings that were booked like two and a half years ago that got impacted and Most of those clients came and said we're postponing it and we hope later this year You'll still be available, but who's to say I'm going to be available So if I'm not that means that's a brand new booking for another speaker who lost one So I think as long as this comes back around within a few months or six months I think what's going to happen. You're going to see is speaking is going to get busier The only catch to that is obviously it depends what the economy looks like afterwards So that was a long way to say I'm optimistic that That people will come through this stronger even speakers, but I'm also Uh, you know, I'm aware of the fact that right now. It's a really hard time for speakers I mean, I have students in my program who won just the other day said she lost five bookings in one day I mean that's depending on what fee level you're at because some people don't know speakers fees But I mean that's I'll say in her case because I'm not saying your name That's about 28 to 30 thousand dollars gone in one day I mean that's that's somebody's you know mortgage payment for five months Yeah, so again, so you asked me how I'm dealing with it I I don't I don't really like using the word lucky But for whatever reason whether it was intuition or it just was a happenstance But I wasn't focused on that for the first time in 18 years And and I so the answer though the bigger answer is I have revenue coming from other ways I've always had multiple streams. So I have other revenue that was coming in that was planned So that wouldn't impact things and so I had that happen, but for other people They're really they're just having to try to find their way through it I do we'll say that some of my other students had other Business, let's say Business models they had that were running as well and that's what they're relying on now, but it's not easy is the short answer Yeah, for most people and I I just Corey and I were saying at the beginning and I want to say this to everybody Who this is really inspiring and helping right now and I believe it will You know, it's really important how you show up right now As sensitive beings we can all sense the anxiety we can all sense the fear This is impacting us on so many levels I personally feel really isolated. I will tell you and as someone who's a great connector and relationship person I do work from home. I live from home, right? My office is here It's me and a dog and I broke up with my boyfriend on sunday because it was the right thing to do, right? And at the same time that's a pretty dramatic move to make it a time when people are looking for anchors And where I've had events I was supposed to starting this friday week after week I have all these bookings that just cancel cancel cancel One of them was a course that now I won't be able to attend that I'm really looking forward to as I explore my healing abilities And now they're offering it online and for someone like me. I don't have ADHD. It's a joke But I mean I kind of have ADHD It's really tough for me to stay present when I'm not in person So I know it's tough times health loved ones careers Finances where you're going to get food and you know people hoarding things and there's a lot going on I think kindness is the word of the day You know really show up as who you always dreamed of being because thinking about that in good times Well, that's awesome practice, but this is the time this is truly the litmus of your soul's being Who are you going to be today? Who are you going to let someone go in front of you? Are you going to smile? Are you going to help? Are you going to hold the energy? I even have And this is zero judgment zero Because these are uber sensitive people. I have a lot of profound healers who are coming to me right now because they are So compacted by the anxiety it's now taking them over and I'm actually doing sessions for them Because that's how we have to show up for each other. So I want to tell you that this week somebody just Not even knowing took a bunch of beautiful cards and put them in envelopes and happened to send this to me And I got to tell you this is I don't know if you could see it And I'll try to figure out where to put it so that it like Resonates. Oh, yeah, I can see it. It says stand your ground And and it's a beautiful angel You know fairy with a wand and all of that and this has been really meaningful to me to hold on to to stand my ground Stand in the being of who I am Not sway like and I'm doing healing practices every day to not get sucked up in the tsunami of fear And it's great because when I come out of this, I'm going to have some really powerful daily practices So Cory, I'm going to end on that note. This is dare to dream. What are you next dare to dream? What are your future dreams and goals? So Well, I have I mentioned I think we mentioned it during the interview and not just off air but My girlfriend is five months pregnant. We have a two and a half year old as well So this is an interesting time for us because even on the hoarding side I couldn't even find hand sanitizer for her and she's obviously her immune system is lower being pregnant I mean, so it's it's a unique time we're in But you know for me I'm very optimistic and as a person by nature And I always wasn't always I was a hypochondriac. I think I mentioned it in the book Which by the way, it probably comes back to why I talked about how important it is to go into news detox Because somebody who feels energy or they're a hypochondriac. I mean this stuff can destroy them I mean, I know I lived it and so and I wasn't even living it during this time But I know how powerful it is so for me I'm an optimist now and I feel we're gonna come out of the stronger and I actually feel I don't want to say sooner rather than later because I think some people think it next weekend Everything's going to be back to normal and I'm not that optimistic But you know, I see with my you know by fall I think events are going to be running full This is my opinion going to be running actually at a high level Maybe even too high a level because there's going to be not enough people to fill that So our event I'm really excited about that My dream is to really impact a lot of lives With this blue tox brand and I think it's really timely because blue tox blue stands for business life universe And so the universe was the catalyst that started this talk and really I think that's Where that the talk is going to help so many people is on the universe side people coming up and talking about synchronicities and talking about NLP and Reiki and healing and so I guess for me I'm dreaming that this branded talk series is going to start changing lives immediately And I think it's the right time for it. It's free because nobody anything to watch the videos or listen And I'm excited for the speakers involved because of how many people they can impact But I'm also excited for what it can do for the world in the time when we think I think we needed the most So that was a long answer. Is it corey? So for those who want to get involved corey Corey porie dot com or is it a different website for that? So with blue tox and it's just I mean we're so new it's being launched as we speak So but it'll be up within the next week. Cool. So just go to your website and then we'll follow what you're doing there Yeah, well, I would go to my other website is that speaker guy dot com So going there has my uh my tedx talks and articles and stuff, but it also is my social media So that's where you'll see the updates because i'm active on all of the social media channels But i'll just leave this out there too is blue talks dot com blue without the e Is what the website's going to be in the next week or so beautiful and that's speaker guy dot com corey I adore you. Thank you for coming on the show today being with me and the listeners. I really appreciate it Thank you so much debbie. It's my absolute pleasure and thank you for all the good you're doing in the world as well I end today's show with this Dare to do what you dare to dream success comes to those that dare to dream dreams and are foolish enough to try And make them come true It is difficult to say what is impossible for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow Dare to dream of your great success And as I like to say and then dare to take action on it Tune in to these upcoming interviews and Spiring interviews you can subscribe to the dare to dream pad podcast. My goodness To the dare to dream podcast and hear this weekly number one transformation Conversation my upcoming guest is lia dunlap. Who is the mystical oracle? I'm super excited to have her on she's pretty connected And subscribe to the youtube videos at youtube.com slash debbie dashinger absolutely dream It is still your time Sometimes time of crisis is also a time of great opportunity. What is yours?