 Hello everyone welcome to another video so if you saw yesterday's video I was out the front of a subway handing out vegan subway and I actually talked about why I was inspired to do that so what happened is I was on uber eats and I ordered a meatless meatball sub from subway I ordered two or six inch and a foot long turns out one of them I missed red or made a mistake and because they look so similar on the order form I accidentally ordered one plant-based one and one fully meat one didn't realize till it came to the house and I was like pretty upset with myself and you know I thought it was their mistake at first I was going to call them and turned out it was my mistake and I could smell the difference between the plant-based one and the meat one the meat one just smelled like a dead body you can smell that death once you've been vegan for a while you can really smell the the difference between flesh and plants it's very distinct and you know in my emotion I just threw it out threw it in the bin it can go back out into nature into the compost and it wouldn't take long to disintegrate back into the earth there's no way I'm doing anything else without I could have thrown it out in the garden but I just chucked it out in the green bin so now I uploaded the video now I knew I was going to get criticized a little bit for ordering the meat making a mistake you know animal rights activists can't make a mistake you know I thought I'd be vulnerable and just let people know you know I make mistakes too and this is how I rectified it you know I went out to the subway and I um you know sort of displaced the meals that the people who are eating meat would otherwise eat so the meals full of animals and you know the cruelty with vegan option from subway and also educated them at the same time so it wasn't just a short term thing this was like a long term thing because they knew they were being educated on the dairy industry in the egg industry I was showing footage I was giving free meals I was helping people out and I was talking about animal rights so I definitely think that it offset that one sandwich anyway but of course when you go to the facebook and you know facebook I've got a lot of non-vegan audience I've got a large non-vegan audience on there which is great which I'm grateful for but you know there's some people there they're just waiting just waiting for their opportunity to get one on you and I thought we could talk about some of the comments that were left here we go we'll start with Daria we'll start with Daria so you just wasted an animal's body that you fight for so much excellent I'm sure this is it her saying this in a sarcastic voice or him saying this in a sarcastic voice wasted an animal's body I think it's a waste of an animal's life to be executed just for a sandwich and yeah and when that sandwich come to my door you know I'm not going to treat it like food I'm going to treat it like a dead animal that has been tortured and executed and it's going back to the earth and I'm not going to you know do anything else with it I'm not going to promote the idea that animals are food because they're not now I've got a few of those same comments so let's just go through those you've been the meat instead of eating it so the animal dies for nothing that is cruelty um you might as well have eaten it that poor cow died in vain for you just to chuck in the bin shame on you um well I bind it because it's a dead animal okay and it embodies everything that I'm fighting against which is cruelty and violence and suffering and you know the murder of innocent beings so there's no other place for it for me other than in the ground and you know it's not cruel like all of a sudden like Kiran cares about animal cruelty like it's fine for him to you know order all the meaty wants and go and eat meat breakfast lunch and tea and turn these animals into feces and flushed them down the toilet that's the type of contempt that Kiran treats animals with but when I accidentally buy one sandwich and throw it back into the bin oh my god back into the earth oh my god like I've committed a mortal sin you don't really care you're just looking to to troll me this is all this is that poor cow died in vain uh yeah when a cow dies for a burger they all they're already dying in vain they're dying for your taste buds so okay whether I chucked it in the bin or not like they're already being executed for a sandwich which is unjustified um you know shame on you okay like since when did you turn on into this full on animal rights activist Michael you don't care you just trying to get you know just trying to troll me uh Jared says just to be clear he threw away perfectly good food just because he didn't like where it come from a lot of people would be grateful just to have to have a meal it wasn't perfectly good food animals are not food it wasn't perfect it was disgusting torture and violence it was an animal who was butchered in a slaughter house beautiful animals now I've been to so many slaughterhouses across the world and witnessed animals going in terrified animals going in to be executed when that sandwich came and it had the body of you know what I would consider you know animals that I have respect for and that I would consider my friends I think animals are beautiful beings and they deserve respect when that got delivered to my door I was disgusted and it was going in the bin there is no way I'm going to give this to someone as a gift you said people will be grateful just to have a meal well I was out there buying meals for people um all day after this happened so and I give out a lot of food I'm always buying meals for the less fortunate but I make sure they're vegan meals because I don't think it's right to hurt um animals to help others Alan says you should have given that subway sandwich that has real meat to some homeless people Joey instead of just throwing it in the bin some unfortunate swans would have appreciated it you know and this is Alan saying similar thing like you know why didn't you give it to the homeless person you know and there's other people who have said the same thing I had vegans even commenting on my instagram saying you should have given this to a homeless person well wait a second I don't think animals are food I think it's a cruel abusive and murderous industry and this was a piece of a a being who had suffered and died in this sandwich why would I give that to someone as a gift and say hey here's here's a sandwich I'd rather throw that one away and go and buy a homeless person vegan food which I do often I do it off camera whenever someone asks me for money I never give them money I always buy them food and as much as they want as much as they want I'm willing to spend 50 60 100 pounds on food for them if they want food um I have no problems with that and I do it often so I'm not going to give someone the piece of a murdered animal like like put it this way like people saying oh you're wasting the food here's here's Nessan he's against cruelty to animals an animal died to provide the meat he accidentally ordered just for him to throw in the bin this is true disrespect and waste oh my god like Nessan's turning into an activist now all of a sudden uh David Proctor wouldn't have been better to give the meats to someone rather than throw it in the bin you disagree with eating meat fair enough but better the food goes to use then gets trashed that makes the death of the animal completely pointless like you care about the animal when you're turning them into feces every single day when you're eating them do you know what I think is crazy people care more about me throwing a sandwich in the bin than they do when I share a video of a pig screaming for their life begging for mercy inside a gas chamber these same people that care so much about me throwing one sandwich in the bin these these brand new animal rights sympathizers who eat meat have come out of the woodwork because they care so much about me throwing one sandwich in the bin they are the exact same people who be sharing you know pictures of like bacon though and like gifts of people eating bacon when I share slaughterhouse footage you care more about me throwing that sandwich in the bin than you care about the actual torture and murder of sentient beings like how crazy is that I'm going to strongly assume that all these people are not vegan they're not definitely not animal rights people but some vegans do hold this position and this is what I want to talk about is that okay so let's say people think okay the damage is already done I've got the sandwich you know no one's going to get hurt by me just you know maybe I should just give it away to someone what sort of precedent does that set me going out giving meat to people and people knowing what I do which is protect animals and protect their rights like I'm not going to promote the consumption of animals animals are not food they're not here for people to use and exploit and eat and nourish themselves from we use plants for that so what type of message does that send me going out giving people meat no I spend my days advocating for animals not you know promoting the consumption of them that's just insane to me now let me give you a little thought experiment for those of you who have this speciesist mentality that cows are food and oh you might as well not let their body go to waste you know even though they were you know executed tortured and terrified in a slaughterhouse don't let their bodies go to waste give them to the homeless no no no think of this okay if there was a just to say a dog got run over by a car or a cat let's say do you like cats what do you like cats or dogs let's choose the one you like okay got hit by a car and they're suffering on the side of the road and you know you had to say help that cat along get them euthanised to put them down or whatever let's just say they suffered and died on the side of the road there would you be like oh you know we can't let that cat's body go to waste we can't let that dog's body go to waste let's cut them up and you know let's feed them let's feed the less fortunate with this dog let's feed the less fortunate with this cat when your cat dies of old age at home or your dog dies suddenly at home you don't think oh what am I going to do with the body should we feed it to the homeless should we feed the the dog cut them up and make a meatball sub out of them and give it to the less fortunate or better not let it go to waste we better eat that dog you know we can't let any bodies go to waste what about when someone gets hit by a car like a human being I mean I know we're going into the territory of this could offend someone but like I just want to talk about it because like people don't see animals as individuals and I see human beings and animals as individuals but for some reason people have this massive double standard but let's just say someone a human being got hit by a car a human being died in a horrific work accident or something like that you know let's just say no one really knew that human being there was no one who they didn't have a family they weren't attached to anyone so it wasn't like harming the person's family by eating this human but you know we better not let that body go to waste we better just make some meatball subs out of it you know we can't put them back into the earth like let's just say I put them out buried them out under a tree which is where that meatball sub that I got's going it's going into the the earth it's going to be dissolved in about five six days anyway so I don't know why you care so much about it would you take a human being that had died of an accident and use their body no you wouldn't because human beings aren't food dogs and cats aren't food and neither are cows and pigs you've just been taught their food um so here we go Hayden's got a great one here oh mate Hayden you've got me here Hayden food waste is worse than being a vegan do you know how many litres of water do you just throw away uh Hayden yeah I don't know that it's a lot I know a lot of water goes into animal agriculture because you have to grow the food and then you have to feed uh give the animals water as well so yeah a lot of water goes into like one steak or like one meatball sub I know that which is why I've been advocating against the animal agriculture which is one of the reasons I advocate against animal agriculture it's not the main reason the main reason is because an animal was executed for it but I want to know Hayden like since you're all of a sudden turning into an activist because I threw a subway in the bin why aren't you a vegan if you know this why aren't you a vegan um you know I'm going to strongly assume you're not because you wouldn't be saying something so silly you like why aren't you a vegan you should be out there out subway handing people vegan subs as well you know what I mean it's just it's just ridiculous mate you know the amount of just just that day just that day so let's say I think it was like over 20 subways we bought out all of the meatless meatball subs they were completely sold out so just that day like those people ate those meals and it displaced one meal from their bodies that you know that that amount of calories six seven hundred calories that they would have otherwise filled with meat because most people eat meat three times a day um so you know we actually in effect stop them from consuming you know 20 mils of meat okay that that would have been how many litres of water I don't know how many animals lives you know so yeah I offset that and if you look at the work that I've done across my life uh so the last at least the last five years online how much of this you know resources and environmental pollution and you know land use have I offset by converting you know tens of thousands of people to the vegan lifestyle like if you just look at my challenge 22 sign ups alone a few months back it was at 13,500 and then I got just this month signed up about 1500 people so like it's at 15 it's at 15,000 minimum and that's only the people that sign up to challenge 22 and challenge 22 has a 67 success rate at keeping people vegan for life so you do the math there and then if you look at the number of views I've got across my platforms it's over 100 million across Facebook Instagram YouTube you know uh over the time I've been online which is a lot you know it's 100 million people and then all the people I've reached through media I've been on every single major media station in the UK and in Australia I've been on a lot too and all the major newspapers here in the UK have repeated the animal rights measures that I've spoken so that's tens of millions more people reached within animal rights message I don't know how that how these seeds flourish get people to eat less meat I've had farmers walk up to me saying that they're eating less meat because of me I turn people into activists who've gone on to to turn dozens of people vegan as well so that's all been offset since I've been an activist I don't know Hayden what are you doing to offset the water use from animal agriculture whinging and complaining in a in a quick comment just to try to make me feel bad um no I'm out here trying to do something about it and you're out here uh you know complaining about how many liters of water I threw away and you know okay so anyway let's move along to Ruby Grouse you're supporting the meat industry by ordering from Subway hypocrite I thought we'd talk about this quickly because that's absolutely nonsense you don't support the meat industry just because you're buying from Subway like if you're buying in the plant-based food options there they have to replace that plant-based food with more plant-based food you're creating a demand for plant-based food I mean when you go into Tesco's and you buy the the Sawyer milk the Tesco's own brand Sawyer milk they replace that Tesco's own brand Sawyer milk with more Sawyer milk and they're growing more Sawyer beans and you know and when you buy the meat and dairy you're creating a demand for meat and dairy it doesn't matter where you're buying these products from what matters is how they're replaced and that's how the supply and demand chain works like people think that it just works because you're supporting the company and oh my god I'm supporting Subway therefore I'm supporting everything Subway does no you're buying a specific product from Subway you're not buying the meat and dairy from there you're supporting the meatless meatball subs and they will replace those meatball meatless meatball subs with more meatless meatballs and you know you've effectively supported plant-based food so yeah the best thing we can do in a non-vegan world is buy vegan products and you know Subway is on every street corner in the UK it's very convenient and convenience a big reason why people don't go vegan and it's very affordable Subway is very affordable so next time people are out of Subway now they know there's a meatless meatball sub and they don't buy the executed animal you know especially the people that I talked to out the front there they might be it might have been the first time they've tried vegan food they had vegan cheese on there they're very tasty and you know yeah I'm not this purist vegan who's like you must only eat at 100% vegan places it's impossible it's impossible you live in a non-vegan world you can't cannot be consistent with that line of reasoning but Ruby just wants to call me a hypocrite because he's just looking for a reason you know because they feel bad for supporting them the horrible massacre of animals and they're just trying to sort of get one on me to troll me so this is my position here I don't think animals are food I will not promote the consumption of animals even if I've made a mistake and accidentally bought animal products I'll just offset it in a different way making a video telling people vegan educating people about the horrors of animal agriculture which I do which I've done for the last you know half a dozen years and you know these people here they're just trying to find just any reason to come on here and go oh look Joey's made a mistake and I I deliberately told people about that mistake because I wanted to be vulnerable wanted to tell people hats okay sometimes you make mistakes but it's what you do afterwards that how to make up how you make up for that matters you know what I mean and I think we offset it quite well and across the platforms there's nearly a hundred thousand views across YouTube and Facebook and Instagram so a lot of people have been reached with this message that hey you know you can get a vegan option at Subway and I was talking about animal rights all throughout the video and I did outreach with 30 people that day like more 30 40 people that day just on the street and all the people that see the videos too because people think oh wow joey's just doing this on the street but they don't actually calculate the amount of people that are reach online and that's how so many people know about the animal rights message from my platforms of course massive movement of multiple different activists and multiple different organizations but we're just talking about my impact here because people would like to talk about my mistake which is buying a meat sub so anyway it's not getting to me too much obviously I know I'm not like thinking oh my god they're right I'm a horrible human being I just think like look people are deliberately buying meat they're deliberately buying dairy and then they're coming on to my animal rights platform to tell me that I've you know you should have given that away you know you should should not have thrown that in the bin you're a horrible person it's like well why are you turning animals into feces treating them like nothing treating them with such contempt that there is disposable you know pieces of meat to be digested and flushed down the toilet and turned into sewage like no I don't treat animals like feces treat them like sentient beings okay that don't deserve to be murdered in the first place okay now that little piece of meat yep it's gone back into the earth it's gone back into the compost it's gone okay but um it's what you do from this point onwards that matters not the small mistakes that you make along the way so anyways guys I thought I'd talk about that what do you guys think down below should we we be giving tortured animal bodies to the less fortunate or should we just be finding vegan ways to support the less fortunate and not harming animals in the process of helping others so I hope you liked the video appreciate your support we've got more content coming for you soon and see you in the next video peace