 What's up everybody welcome to the Sunday night fan dual fantasy football draft stream I'm your host Simon joined as always by my co-host Josh what's up Josh I'm here it's Sunday let's go I'm ready we are ready to do some mock drafting tonight guys today we are going to be doing an eight man best ball mock draft over on the fan dual website so we've got a room full of people ready to draft I think there might be one more spot if I'm not mistaken so I'm going to throw that in the chat for anybody that wants to join along with us let me copy that link for everybody we've got one more spot left so if you're watching this and you want to draft along with us and you're not already in this draft just click on that link and join this draft we've got some people in the chat ready to hang out with us dame what's up dame welcome in and I believe dame is drafting with us tonight so watch out Josh and we got Joey right you're saying I know these guys Josh now I can't remember last week in the uh in the 10 team mock that we did last week I did not I streamed over you in it no I was not in it I I'm gonna be honest this is gonna be my first time using the fan dual best ball product but I'm excited to use it it's gonna I'm really excited for just the product in general so let's make it happen let's make it happen so I'm gonna be drafting all the time once once I get in there you know I was gonna say that it sounds like you're fairly fresh into the the best ball drafts going into this one um is do you have any like take the eight man part out of it let's just look at best ball versus classic redraft before we go into this is there any mindset change or different things you're looking for in draft because this is best ball as opposed to just the normal redraft league well yeah I've done best ball I've done quite a few best ball leagues I years ago I was I was probably in over 100 best ball leagues in total um so I have a lot of fun doing best ball I definitely understand the strategy um when it comes down to it I don't I'm not gonna change too much at the very beginning of my drafts I'm gonna take the guys I'm more comfortable with later in drafts though that's when I really want to capitalize on the outside right I really want to make sure I get guys that I'm not too concerned about them being consistent I don't want the Jarvis Landry types of the worlds who are gonna get four catches for 40 yards every week and maybe they're good flexes for your normal redraft team but in this in best ball I'm not looking for guys like that I'm looking for guys that could explode on a week to week basis you know think of Dashawn Jackson the last 15 to 17 years right um he's not always consistent but at least you know there's gonna be like three four five weeks where he's putting up big numbers and that's that's what's gonna help you in best ball right yeah absolutely I'm with you Josh it looks like our draft filled up and our draft spots have been revealed Josh you are gonna be drafting fourth and surprise surprise I'm drafting third we are back to back in this draft Josh guys before we get in there are a couple things that I want to go over number one this draft is going to start at 7 15 p.m eastern time that is the time it's scheduled so we got about 10 minutes so maybe start setting your cues get ready get warmed up for this outside of that a couple other reminders number one if you're enjoying this show if you enjoy what we do here with Fanduel makes you like this video and subscribe to Fanduel on YouTube they're on YouTube at Fanduel and if you're on twitch hit that follow button then after you do that there is a entire team of incredible content creators across multiple different platforms we're talking Twitter, TikTok, Instagram they're at Fanduel on all of those places so make sure you guys go follow them over there so many places so many places I love it we got geek in the chat what's up geek welcome and glad to have you here and uh they wanted to know how Joey is feeling about his Scott fishbowl draft Joey just did it live and I will say if you haven't gone into the Orlando draft boards go check them out Joey's team looks really really good yeah yeah the team go you've got a great team hey we've got a little bit we've got a little bit of time here but we do the draft starts so this is best ball we talked a little bit about how to succeed in best ball but I realized we didn't mention what best ball was maybe people here watching don't know what best ball is do you want to you said you've done hundreds of best ball drafts you want to give a hundred maybe maybe thousands I've never I've over the course of my lifetime here and you can you can tell them oh I missed you for a second but uh best ball is essentially just like your normal fantasy leagues but with one very big twist you're not going to be setting your weekly lineup you're going to be doing the draft right you're going to be completing your draft just like you do in any other league but the rest of it's done for you after the week's done they're going to fandal what we're drafting on here is going to determine who were the high scoring players on your roster and they're going to be put into your starting lineup it's that simple you don't there's no trades there's no roster management there's no picking up new free agents the team you draft is the team you're locked in with so I hope you have a good draft because that's the team you're going to have throughout the entire season but your lineups are going to be set set for you with the highest scoring people already in there so like we already said going for those we'll say hi upside guys the boomer bus guys can be a little bit more beneficiary because you don't have to try to pick and choose when the guy's going to go off when you have to actually put them in your lineup it's going to be made for you they're going to be put in there when they have their good games so another little example is I'm not going to be touching my handcuff running back in this league at all if I draft Derek Henry or Christian McCaffrey I'm not taking his backup because if I draft Christian McCaffrey with my first overall pick probably means I'm not going to win the league I'm going to be honest with you especially in bigger tournaments if it's a smaller tournament maybe I will mess with that but if I'm in a bigger tournament I'm trying to win a big tournament I'm not messing around with grabbing someone's backup because that just limits my upside even more I'm going to grab other people's backups I'm going to grab the Ronald Jones of the world and see what happens later in drafts just in case maybe he does win this starting job with the chiefs stuff like that so yeah it's a little bit more nuanced to it there we go and guys I'm going to break down for you specifically what the settings are here on fan duel before we go in there so whenever you're setting up a fan duel best ball draft the leagues are going to vary anywhere from three to 12 people the one we're doing tonight is an eight person draft so there's eight people in this league seven other people that you're competing against throughout the season in the way that Josh told you now what your lineup is going to require each week is that you're going to have one quarterback two running backs three wide receivers one tight end and two flex spots that flex is going to be a standard flex running back wide receiver or tight end and this draft is going to be 20 rounds so you're going to have a roster of 20 players that will have to fill that starting lineup of nine players each week now at the at the quarterback and tight end position what this means those are usually the positions that maybe in your regular read draft league you're only leaving with one up right but in this format you're going to want a minimum of two players in each of those positions because they got by weeks and if you don't have anyone to sub in there you're just going to take a big old zero and then there's injuries if your player goes down injured you need someone else just injuries like just because you draft a quarterback and you think he's going to perform better than the second quarterback you drafted that's not going to happen every week you know the second quarterback you drafted I'm sure is going to be in Sierra unless I know Josh out yeah yeah yeah there's certain quarterbacks but you still want backups here's another little tidbit of advice if you draft a quarterback early or if you draft the tight end early me personally I'm probably not drafting another one for a while and that's probably the position so let's say I do take Patrick Mahomes earlier in my draft I'm probably only drafting two quarterbacks because I do want the backup for that bi-weekend for other purposes but I'm not taking three quarterbacks because I'm relying on Patrick Mahomes to win me that week and that's a great point that I'm exactly the same way if I take one of those stud guys I'm probably only drafting two because like you said if Patrick Mahomes doesn't do what I expect him to I'm probably not winning anyways but if my first quarterback is say a Ryan Tannehill or something like that yeah I'm probably grabbing three guys that can that way I've got a better chance at uh one of those top 10 QB performances each and every week top eight I guess is what we want whenever we're in this format Mr. Scampers what's up welcome in and we got Justin in the chat yo what's up welcome in Chris from Dallas in the chat is that W's down there nothing but W's W stream but we're all about here and then Chris at Simon is joined by James Bond tonight I see you James Bond though where's the martini I shaken not stirred I'm a big James Bond fan actually believe or not I think it has to do with something with a picture JL posted me on Twitter and I look a little James Bondy apparently Jane Bond doesn't wear glasses don't wear glasses in that picture um Josh I wanted to confess something to you I don't know why I started that so I've never seen a single James Bond movie not one not a single one I've played uh GoldenEye on the Nintendo 64 that is all of the James I James Bond exposure that I have I know the I know the famous phrases I know Sean Connery was James Bond but that's that's about all I got so I'm not gonna like knock you for that it's fine I know it's kind of an older series my dad was very into James Bond he kind of grew up in the old James Bond era and he kind of showed me all the movies so I love James Bond movie I've seen every James Bond movie I think there's like 27 now or something like that maybe lower a little bit lower but it's a lot of James Bond movies out there it's the uh it's the sparkle category I always do weakest on they'll be like a grab bag quiz they'll be like all the James Bond movies to start with this letter and I'm like hmm don't know any of those they can't be said depraved absolutely depraved and we got Marty in the chat wanted to shout Marty out as well guys we've got four minutes just about until this draft starts this draft will start in about four minutes three minutes and 12 seconds to be exact actually and then we're gonna get going right here I got a question I got a question yeah no I got it I got a question I want to personally ask you uh I know we we've kind of beaten the death you know we know that Baker Mayfields now won the Carolina Panthers we think this helps DJ more um right we think that helps DJ more yeah what about the other past catching weapons not Christian McCaffrey you you have any interest in like Robbie Anderson or anything like that um based on what I saw out of Baker and Cleveland no he's an above average quarterback but I assume the Panthers bringing them there with a running back light Christian McCaffrey with the upgrades that they've tried to make to their offensive line this off season everything screams that they want this to be a run first offense and Baker not to be like this crazy bossing in high pass attempts kind of guy um I'm just not sure that offense is going to be good enough and the Baker will have enough volume to support two good fantasy options in that offense could Robbie Anderson have his weeks absolutely he's the kind of guy that can like grab a long touchdown and win you a week right so maybe in formats like this but in regular redraft formats it's it's DJ more Christian McCaffrey Baker Mayfield that those are the options I'm touching in that in that offense I'm not even drafting like Chuba Hubbard what's the upside there you know what I mean if Christian McCaffrey goes down and actually didn't they sign um who's the running back uh the he was on the Titans last year I think he's McNichols no not McNichols uh I'll tell you in one second Deont Deonti Foreman Deont Deonti Foreman really yes yes yes I'm not convinced Chuba Hubbard's better than Deonti Foreman I don't think he is I think Deonti Foreman is better than Chuba Hubbard I think that's the reason why they probably brought him in and even if we knew for sure it doesn't matter we don't know for sure so I'm not touching either when it comes down to it even if we knew for sure I'm probably not messing around with it that's more of a redraft thing if you typically don't grab handcuffs though yeah also we got Pete in here saying when are we two prices correctly done here week one price is coming out for Fandall Pete I'm gonna be honest with you I have no idea not a single clue but I know I know daddy Fandall I'll reach out to daddy Fandall maybe maybe they're even watching lurking in here and they can give us a little bit of insight right there but we're just here making some videos making some content hanging out with you guys we don't we don't uh we don't make the sauce we don't we don't make the secret sauce behind the scenes that's uh taken care of by people maybe a little bit smarter but maybe less handsome than us I'm not sure never matter I think you're accurate that's that seems like a pretty accurate statement if you ask me the draft starts in 30 seconds Josh except not really it starts in a minute and 30 seconds because it'll take off one minute timer when this starts I just hope that the stream doesn't catch oh yeah we're we're right back and back that's great because now there's gonna be these even extra long awkward moments of silence yeah we just have to it's always great on stream whenever we're focusing back to back exactly okay I'm here listening in guys keep it up appreciate it Pete sorry we don't know that but uh I shot a message to um someone over at Fandall to see if I can get that information for you yeah I got it for you it's August 12th Pete I made that date up but if I'm right that would be pretty cool right it'd be pretty cool that would be pretty cool I don't know I don't know in the past no they gotta get it in earlier than that they want they want people starting to put some dollar bills in there for week one I'm sure here we go I started clicking on the teams I get so excited every like because now this feels more real right like this is gonna play out we'll have record of who wins this one this is a real draft this is a real best ball league this isn't just a mock anymore like there's gonna be someone at the end of the season that says this is my championship team once we get a little warmed up with these Josh I think we gotta start doing some of these with some money on them get some people in there maybe do some like uh some ten dollar ones just uh just to get us a little warmed up a little bit of skin in the game I'm all about it I'm sure maybe some of the people drafting with us might might be interested in doing that as well and I could always use a take in some of your money so you have the number three spot right Simon I was gonna ask you like kind of like what kind of guys you're looking at but I don't want you to give anything away so I'm I'm debating something here okay I'm just gonna say it out loud okay zero rb is easier to pull off in a smaller league size because there's more options available later but yeah I think it might because there's more options later I think it might be best strategy not to do that and that goes against all of my best instincts um because I love drafting zero rb whenever it makes sense so I'm gonna try something different here and I'm gonna go with just about the highest upside running back in the NFL and I'm gonna go with Christian McCaffrey with my third overall pick that's definitely yeah yeah there's no doubt I would have taken Christian McCaffrey if Cooper Cup Jonathan Taylor and what were off the board just because of what you're saying yeah ten seconds just so you know yeah I'm between three people and I'll go with Jamar I'm gonna go with Jamar Chase there we go Jamar Chase what made you go a wide receiver there instead of running back was at the end of like a JT and CMC in a different tier for you than these next guys yeah yeah I would put them in a slightly different tier I Derrick Henry would be my third running back that I would love to take here again if we if he hits he's gonna hit big and if he stays healthy all season he's gonna win some people some best ball leagues for sure I'll take Jamar Chase there the high upside wide receiver who's average depth of target is ridiculous and in this bangles offense that we think's gonna be a little bit more improved even I'm pretty excited for Jamar Chase especially in best ball formats that's my favorite place to take him actually he like he's probably I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say he's higher than Cooper Cup for me in best ball but he's definitely I'll draft him over Justin Jefferson in best ball I'll take him over uh yeah yeah yeah he'd be my second wide receiver for our best ball but it's funny he's my fourth wide receiver re-draft it's kind of crazy um maybe maybe I should adjust but I'm just shooting for upside with Jamar Chase there and when I say he's my fourth wide receiver for re-draft he's in a tier with three other guys so it's like I think I would have the same first tier just in uh just in a different order right there also Joey and you're saying Baker DJ CMC week one stack you know what I'm a Browns fan but I'm about it I I feel like I'm pulling for Baker week one uh I'm excited for that match up against Browns though it is tough the Browns defense is no slouch Nick Chubb went in the first round Josh what do you think about that pick right after Derek Henry is the fourth running back off the board that's probably the biggest surprise that's a little high for me um you know it's because of the offense Jacobi Berset I'm a little bit just nervous about this offense moving consistently Nick Chubb I think is the best if you're running back in the NFL I've said that many times I'm on the clock right now yeah um Nick Chubb is the best pure running back in the NFL could put the ball in his chest and let him run him and Derek Henry top two in my opinion but Nick Chubb I would put his number one he just had more pass catching upside ah decisions decisions I'll go with I'm struggling here as well I'm gonna just differentiate I took a wide receiver in the first I'm gonna take another running back that I kind of have up there with Derek Henry a little bit separated from Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor and that would be Devon Cook you know if he can say healthy he's primary he's in I think we're building similar teams so far I'm gonna go with a wide receiver here now I'm gonna take Stefan better I like your start better like see and see Stefan better than what yours Jamar Chase, Dow and Cook slightly better I I like both our starts and you know we're nitpicking I'm sure everyone has a great start so far I saw Marquis Brown was picked in the second round I know that Marquis Brown is a lot of upside and he's gonna have big weeks in a best ball format he's probably even better but you can wait too early too early I mean you could have waited a couple rounds I think is what's going on here um not that Marquis Brown is a bad pick but if that value you're you're just uh it's free money you're throwing away right that's the best way to think about it yeah reach one round if you want to guarantee you get your guy you probably don't have to reach multiple rounds to guarantee you get your guy okay well if Mark Andrews fell to me I was gonna take him but Mr. Scamper sniped me so uh I know where we're going here we're gonna I would have taken Mark Andrews too with my next pick ooh do I put my money where my mouth is I just made this switch and I'm gonna do it Mr. Mike Evans welcome to the squad overseas that's who I think that's who I figured you'd be taking there honestly oh and then Geek said that was a mistake taking Marquis Brown that high oh no well you know what 18 league 20 rounds you're just playing on hard mode Geek reaching on a guy in that second round you're just playing on hard mode see if you can beat us anyways all right I'm gonna take Deandre Swift here um I fully expect him to have a big season he's gonna catch a lot of passes as long as he stays healthy yeah that's gonna be the phrase I say for a lot of these guys as long as they're healthy I considered Deandre Swift with my second round pick um also I see a question in here um Kelsey in second round over Andrews well this is one a reger or best ball league so it's only for this season so in dynasty formats I understand Andrews over Kelsey I'm fine with it I would take Andrews over Kelsey yeah yeah I would not I would still take Kelsey but I understand like I'm on the loser I understand the losing side yes the losing side of that or the less popular side of that argument is more what I meant there but um I would take Kelsey over Andrews in any single season format um there's just a little bit more security there and what we've seen him do consistently year over year and in what we know this offense wants to do how this offense wants to operate is through Travis Kelsey um Andrews is going to be great as well both of them are great early round picks especially in small team best ball formats but um I I got no issue with it Josh what do you think here there's going to be a lot more passing attempts with the chiefs I'm I'm fully balled into that I know the Ravens passed a lot last season but I expect them to go back to their running ways the way they did the two years prior to that um the Ravens defense was decimated last year like almost all their secondary was injured offensive line problems they were forced to pass the ball to keep up in games and I just fully expect the Ravens to get back to running the ball a lot more that that doesn't mean Mark Andrews is going to be great he's my second Ray tight end but I would absolutely take Travis Kelsey above him still and Tyree kill is not going to be there with the chiefs you can make an argument saying like yeah sure Tyree kill uh hold on I'm on the clock you can make an argument saying Tyree kill brought coverage away from him but you can also make the argument that that's a lot of targets that's a lot of volume that has to go somewhere not that it's going to all funnel through Kelsey um and the mistress campers at the other point I wanted to make if that seems early for a tight end this isn't shallower league so those difference makers the ones that really separate themselves are even more valuable and at the tight end position that's super apparent um there's only a couple names up there oh man what do I want to do here Joshua you tell me man I already have three running backs so I'm pretty solid on that regard and I really do like my running back so I'm hoping that especially in eight man league I know how deep wider the wide receiver position is I'm thinking I can grab some very high upside guys late yeah I only have one running back so far but I'm feeling very good about my I just grabbed a wide receiver that I probably am grabbing higher in this format than I do in in normal redraft and that's Mike Williams uh because I feel like the range of outcomes is a little bit higher but if it hits Mike Williams like has that top five wide receiver kind of upside now that I expect him to hit that but that upside exists for him do you think it's probably going to be a top five wide receiver on a few different weeks you know I'm saying like when he hits like you're saying he it's big he scores multi touch on games he's a big play threat um he's willing to go up and get the ball yeah Mike Williams and best ball is someone I do like more than typical leagues and even in normal I have Mike Williams projected as my 16th wide receiver which is pretty good you know it's pretty good I still effecting an island to be a little better but this is a great offense to be a part of yep and then hopefully Mr. Scampers and Eric do not snipe me here and I can grab the player that I'm wanting with this next who do you want who do you want dude um I want camp acres Eric if you take camp acres that would be great you definitely want camp acres yeah I'm notorious for being very high on camp acres this year um it's a player I'm super high on Josh you know that all about me oh yeah yeah you love camp acres love him hey for everyone that's watching he's trying to get him to pick camp acres because he doesn't want him or Givante Williams even that would be fine yeah Givante guys love Givante's talent and in a dynasty league he is awesome he's a great running back when Melvin Gordon's still gonna be involved Russell Wilson doesn't love passing to his running backs it's gonna be hard for Givante Williams to be a top 10 running back this year yep I'm with you Josh I love him in dynasty all day he's so talented he's so good but Melvin Gordon's good for that offense like it's good for them to have that one two punch it's just not and I don't think this is going to be an offense like the Browns that one year with Nick Chubb and Karim Hunt where they could sport two RB ones it's it's not going to be that kind of offense I don't think for these two running backs they're both going to be good but yeah not that level Michael Pittman hey I like that I don't know about like his explosion potential in any given weeks but he's a good wide receiver who should give like he'll likely start for your team more weeks than not in this best ball format I mean I I think his explosion potential is there still um he's a big he's six four he's a big guy he's got a lot of touchdown upside and who else is there I mean Jonathan Taylor they're gonna be a broad and first offense I understand that but their offense line is one of the best in the leagues one of the best in the league Matt Ryan's there I like him better than Carson Wentz and there's really not much else in terms of past catching weapons I know they drafted Alec Pearson the second round but he's a rookie Michael Pittman's gonna be the guy here yeah sure uh they got some other guys but Michael Pittman I'm fully bought in on this season man Josh I'm just looking at our two drafts and they're they're kind of similar I've got two running backs through wide receivers you've got three running backs two wide receivers and the the strength at which maybe kind of switches like I think singularly I've got the best running back but I would prefer your running backs singularly you've got the best wide receiver but I would prefer my wide receiver it's just back and forth but um we got pretty a balanced team so far balanced teams which man I kind of get this balanced draft approach now it's it's a little bit less stressful drafting whenever your team balanced in the start seriously I'm used to like being like full stress like I need this one running back to fall to me or I'm screwed game over draft done Deontay Johnson so I'm definitely gonna take this one player if he's still there I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it yeah there is one player I want but I have a feeling it's the player you're gonna take if they're still there it might be it just might be um yeah are they a tight end Josh they're not but I I was about to say it was probably someone I swear Simon I know you very well I was about to say I bet there's another person you might be considering here it's not a tight end hold on I might just is it Lamar Jackson sitting up there at the top of the queue I love that pick in the sixth round and Josh we were talking a little bit before the stream because we were like how does strategy really change in an eight man league and I was like oh well the one-off positions become more valuable and you pushed back a little bit we had a bit of a little bit so you want to you want to talk a little bit about that while I make my pick here and we were kind of discussing a few different things we were talking about three man leagues as well and with I think it is important in smaller leagues to set yourself apart especially with the tight end position with the tight end position there's just not as many guys you can really set yourself apart with Travis Kelsey or Mark Andrews but at the same time I don't think you should reach for any of these one-off positions if someone falls to you I think that's the perfect time to set yourself apart in one-off position and I think I just did that with Lamar Jackson there in the sixth round he's got as much upside as he has as much upside as any quarter he has as much upside as any quarterback we saw that in his MVP season two years ago there were some injuries last year and like I said mentioned earlier there was just the offensive line was great the Ravens are going to be a better team this year Lamar Jackson is going to be running around a little bit more I fully expect him to be a top five quarterback because of his rushing ability and he's going to have big weeks that's what we're looking for here so I love getting market I mean Lamar Jackson there for sure yeah no I love that pick and I think like the words I used you did take you did take you I just wanted to make sure yeah I figured that's what you're talking about when he's healthy he's compete for that top scoring tight end every single time he's on the field so he's a he's a guy now with George Kittle because we've seen him get injured a lot even though he's one of those top tier guys I waited I got him in what the sixth round there's a good chance I leave with two more tight ends in this draft even though I have Kittle just to make sure I didn't spend high enough draft capital on him to feel like I need to only take one more to have a shot in this league and I am worried about injuries with him with a player who plays like that oh and right as Pete said it Jalen Waddle available I was I and Jalen Waddle hopefully make it back to me um or DJ and D Gamer yeah he doubled up on both of those guys great value that's the sweet spot of wide receiver right there mr. scampers I think still has no wide receivers let's look at this team or no running backs but it is looking good I like that team so far you're up on the clock Simon yes I am make sure you get that picket let's see but I really like what mr. scampers did there on the turn I'm actually just about to look at mr. scampers team and wow okay so mr. scampers has two tight ends Mark Andrews and Darren Waller and then five wide receivers if scampers is able to grab some running backs and there's still some left that makes sense then oh man that team could be unstoppable yeah talk about running backs left I was thrilled to look over there and see the Josh Jacobs was still sitting on the board that's my third running back that makes me happy oh man okay I'm gonna take this is the guy I have top rated out of all my wide receiver some people might question it but it's Cortland Sutton I do expect him to be the number one wide receiver for the Broncos I like Jerry Judy as well I think he has a great chance of being the number one guy both of these guys can be very valuable as well and with Russell Wilson he likes to air the ball out and Cortland Sutton is a big guy he's a deep threat he can go get those touchdowns I expect a lot of touchdowns for Cortland Sutton this year I really do I think he's gonna be great I um who who said who's who was on our show that compared Jerry Judy to Doug Baldwin it's like that sort of role I think it was Jordan it was Jordan Vannick who did that yeah and I I like that comparison because it none of them quite felt right whenever they were trying to plug him into the locket or Metcalfe role he's not locked it right no no but I that's not really Metcalfe either I know he's closer to Metcalfe but Metcalfe's just a supreme athlete maybe what we're not even considering is that nobody fills any of those roles and this is a whole new offense and they fill the Cortland Sutton or Jerry Judy roles in this offense yeah yeah also pizza just followed both of you would love for you guys to join a Twitter DFS space well thank you Pete and that sounds fun I like hopping in Twitter spaces hit us up some time and uh Mr. Scampers with the waddle waddle emoji and there goes your Darnell Mooney Jay grabbed him you know Jay did that just so I couldn't have him someone does it it happened last week oh baby what do I do I'm so tempted to do oh wait okay I'm on the clock very tempted to do something it kind of goes but it's an eight man league so I feel a little bit more comfortable doing it and I'm gonna do ah but then there's this guy yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna grab JK Dobbins I was just looking at the running backs available and he is by far my favorite running back that was left like it's not even close um especially for a best ball format I think he's gonna have big blow up weeks I really do um JK Dobbins it's an explosive athlete and he's gonna be with an improved Ravens offense line that wants to run the ball a lot like I mentioned earlier JK Dobbins is prime for a breakout season and then I went with a quarterback here I'm not sure how that's your first quarterback getting him in round eight what do you mean awesome I think that's awesome the only the only reservations I have is even though it's awesome value I'm looking at the quarterbacks and man I think I could still wait it there's good ones you know what I mean Kyler Murray's still there Tom Brown down there there are so good ones quarterbacks are not flying off the board are they they are not it's making me a little hesitant with my Lord Mar Jackson pick but I still am fine with it I'm glad to get with Mar Jackson I think he could have easily been picked by my following pick um and there goes Kyler Murray and he was hanging around way too long as well like Jaylen Hertz so absolutely let's let's look at some more of these rosters see if we have any more interesting ones in here Rock Hawk King heavy on the running back so far three wide receivers so Derek Henry Aaron Jones James Connor he's a really good guy yeah great running backs you're set at running back you probably don't need another one this whole draft and you can just load up on wide receiver tight end you're up next Simon I am Josh what do you think what do you think about this like when you start off heavy on running back like this what does it change about the rest of your draft are you it takes running back away from me as an option um with these five it's kind of nice in a way because like I do feel like the running back position is a little bit shallow right um so if you can load up on running backs and these guys hit it can really help you win a week or win this league uh and the wide receiver position is deeper he's got three stud wide receivers that's good uh and now like we already mentioned the quarterbacks are falling right down the list DJ I can think I would have taken in with my next pick um but we we see the quarterbacks are just tumbling down the list and you know he's probably going to be able to grab a great um why is say auto okay it's probably going to be able to grab a great uh quarterback later yeah I 100 agree with that it's the you're right it is kind of nice but also like when you get late in the draft sometimes there's a running back steering at you you don't like any of the wide receivers but I feel so pigeonholed to not take another running back with five stud ones like whenever I'm looking at wide receivers and running backs I'm generally I got between uh you got auto picked damn yeah got auto picked also knocks I clicked on a name and that happened to me once last week where I auto picked a couple players yeah I clicked on a name I didn't see draft the draft button I guess it was there it was there I'm assuming damn but I'm generally trying to get between five and eight wide receivers and running backs each and whether it's closer to that five number to that eight number is going to depend on the beginning of my draft really like with one like this where you have got these five running backs I'm probably fine going with five running backs no you should go with five running right that that's probably what I want to do I don't want to waste any more of draft picks because that likely means my wide receivers are weaker and that I need to just throw as much at the wall as I can down there at the end is what I'm trying to do but with this balanced approach it's probably going to be six seven of each we'll see what happens there's no pressure to take a lot of one position I see we got a question in here or a comment that said I'm still scared to get with a raven a ravens running back with them doing committee last year and Lamar healthy will run and like hers will steal all the tv's from his Arby's what do you think about that josh being the one who drafted jk dobbins here um I I would say yeah they were in a committee last year but it was a bad committee uh devonta freeman latavius murray tyson williams these are the running backs are talking about the committee last year jk dobbins and and to your point gus edwards is a very good running back as well and he's going to get work but this I expect the ravens to be at least at least a top three rushing team in the nfl they were number one the two years prior to last year and just look at two years ago with mark ingram he was a great running back he was a borderline running back one with the ravens in this committee with jk dobbins with gus edwards as well whoever is the running back one for the team is still going to be successful josh just so you know thank you for telling me 20 seconds I'm with you josh I agree this we saw it um we see it with these run heavy teams that there's there's enough volume to go around maybe a cap some touchdown upside for jk dobbins but that doesn't completely eliminate his upside or eliminate the upside to being in a rush first high powered offense has two one i i do it again i'm doing again something wrong okay i drafted the person i wanted i guess i clicked in their name it took me inside their profile and then i like i had one second there's a there's a plus button to the right i know i i tried oh no i have 14 seconds well i'll take you know what seeing how early um or not early a couple rounds ago sudden win i'll take judy a couple rounds later um and that's a wide receiver if i have to pick one of the broncos wide receivers i'm still on the judy side but i like the value of whichever one falls if something was going later judy was still there also that's something else to mention guys this adp the best ball season here on fendu will just launch a couple weeks ago so adps are still fresh there's still some little things to to notice maybe some players further down than they would be otherwise that are gonna rise soon so there there might be some things to take advantage of right now against your opponents if you're paying attention here oh i get so nervous mr scampers with that aj dylan pick that is so good for your team mr scampers is that your first running back first running back tom brady dak press got then the wide receivers cooper cup davante adams t higgins jail and waddle dj more mark andrews and darren waller at tight end and still managed to get aj dylan as their first running back it makes me nervous i'm gonna be honest like i kind of wish one of those quarterbacks was they know they're running back to be completely honest with you like getting tom brady's great getting back press gots great throw another running back on there a two a couple rounds later than dak and or exactly ten rounds later than exactly exactly much later and then you get an actual like there's nothing wrong with aj dylan but that's your only running back right um and the running backs are starting to dry out there's still some good guys with a ton of other side one more guy i really like and i'm gonna take him right now with that running back position i'm up okay mr melvin gordon you you refer to him as mr you get better he's mr melvin gordon other javante williams is there the young guy we got to put some respect on melvin gordon's name how many running backs do i have you have five running backs josh oh my god i only have oh no one second oh no rishad penny is that who you wanted to pick not really but is that who you picked that is the person that i saw first with one second left that i press how do you feel about rishad penny this year you nervous about ken walker do you think he keeps that job or no i've rishad penny projected to be the number one running back for the seahawks and if he stays healthy he'll be good he's gonna have big weeks but at the same time he always gets injured that's a big a seahawks don't have a very good offensive line they don't have a very good offense at the moment with their quarterback situation being jena smith or drew lock their defense isn't necessarily very good so that a ton is working against rishad penny a ton is working against him i do think he'll be at the starter week one and if he stays healthy and produces even close to what he was doing last year he's going to be the starter still ken walker will be involved but he was the most efficient running back like in the nfl last year with the carries he received he had like over six yards per carry he was really good um ah i'm tilting i'm tilting every here um i tilted so hard last week when you're not used to that 30 second timer oh man is it fast it happens so quick like you switch which position if i was just sitting here like the whole time looking at like the whole list like you know i'm saying like it's like okay that guy is still there you know that guy's still but i'm not i'm not drafting and streaming and then add if you're drafting streaming and drinking it's just a whole nother element then i would never do that that's water uh mr scammers as was trying to grab gordon but 30 seconds got me yet i think gordon would have been a great pick for your team mr scammers would have been phenomenal but time to recover that's right don't let the tilt take over that's when you lose your oh i'm tilting i'm curious how there's so many good quarterbacks there's still so many good quarterbacks i know i'm regretting that jalen herz pick i wouldn't regret the jalen herz pick at all simon i think he's one of the few quarterbacks that has the ability to score like 30 plus points you know on a weekend week out basis you know because of his rushing ability so you're just not going to find that upside well you can find that upside but you're not going to find that guaranteed upside with the guys left and josh you are on the clock my man thanks for telling me so someone's got to tell me every time right i just don't want i'm trying to avoid no no no i really do appreciate it actually maybe i should just let it go and full tilt josh's uh is good content that's great for the stream right that's actually not a bad point so i'm gonna take a guy here that just has massive upside and that's literally all i'm drafting here i don't necessarily want to rely on this guy but with this team i've built so far i'm i'm pretty pretty okay with it marcus valdas gambling well i'm shoot let me just check one thing and there were just reports that came out saying marcus valdas gambling is looking like the best wide receiver right now in the chief's camp um he's a big guy they just gave him a three-year deal they only gave juju smith schuster a one-year deal so if marcus valdas gambling can build that chemistry with patrima homes he could be a steal here um i'm trying to talk this into being a good pick because like i said i'm tilting uh um josh no i've been taking a lot of packers at chief's wide receivers late like not the first one being drafted like the christian watson's the sky more as the mark has vowed at scant leans um the michael hardman's just somebody's probably got to step up in these offenses uh i'll take shots late especially in best fall on some of those guys also dark said my worst year was drafting my buddies in vegas but i drank too much for the draft yeah vegas sounds like it sounds like the best place that sounds horrible man but it's probably the worst place to draft this is a guy i wasn't drafting early in the off season but he's mine it was a mistake and that's robert woods but he's mine i know you convinced me josh you have only yourself to blame for me taking him right there i'm upset with you quite a bit also dames said hmm c-pad is only a wide receiver is that weird he's only a running back in like sleeper now too so like it's weird that they would make him only a wide receiver because i think he's listed as a running back at this point for the on the depth chart on the falcons depth chart that is curious i guess in best fall like maybe it's makes sense to just make that distinction it probably makes it really difficult if they're available for two positions yeah i don't know yeah you just think the distinction that would be made is running back at this point yeah if i had to put him in a wide receiver every year of his career before this not saying he hasn't gotten attempts um it's just always been classic but this was truly like a ninth year running back breakout for patterns like he he hadn't he hadn't been viewed as a running back at all prior to this year like you said some running back plays but not necessarily running back i was curious about geeks team because he had that early pick with marquise brown on accident second round i wanted to check in to see how this was going josh allen got in the third round so made sure i think to secure that quarterback position um early but i don't dislike the way this team shaping out i do think that marquise brown pick like this would look so much better with uh who was who would have been available at that point maybe like a debo samuel or something in that spot but like but i like the way i think it was still there the lamb would have been beautiful right finger but i like the wide receivers you constructed around it waiting on wide receiver even a little bit to get down there um yeah and again he's saying it was a mistake you know so yeah that's what i'm saying do you have any um do you have any worries about adam felon this season josh we saw kj osborne kind of step up at the end of the year last year do you think adam felon's on the decline or are you expecting another touchdown heavy fantasy relevant wide receiver season from him i just i'm done betting against adam touchdown felon every time you watch this guy play like it doesn't matter he just like ends up with touchdowns and it's not just because he's getting lucky he's making this sick this awesome move in the corner of the end zone breaking wide freaking open and her cousin's just laying it right in the bread basket for him i'm done betting against him this guy is just good at scoring touchdowns he's not gonna be he's not gonna win you your lead but he's gonna have some big weeks and i like yeah i like adam felon a lot i do too he's uh he's a late round target for me as well man so i took erin rogers with my last pick and so since i've got jaylen herzen erin rogers i'm done in quarterback i'm not drafting another one because if if there's injury or some of the derails that i'm probably not winning anyways just in fields upside upside upside upside that's what i'm shooting for baby and his spy matches up with a mark jackson the real reason it's coming out so you know i i know this could lead to me potentially getting sniped in this draft going forward but yeah same to you simon i have i honestly have six running backs one more than i would like to have at this point um but i also have two quarterbacks i'm very comfortable with i'm looking at wide receiver and tight end from heroine out the rest of the draft very much and go ahead and snipe me out people out there but that's that's what i'm looking at josh i'm looking at my draft and tight end is definitely the area that needs to be addressed the most um maybe another running back but i'm gonna i'm gonna just cut that one i wish i drafted derrick car i don't even know how i missed him oh over justin fields yes i i i don't know i don't know it's that 30 second timer it gets to your head messes you up mm-hmm oh mr scampers has three running backs now kareem hunt kenneth walker yeah that's um there's some risk there but that's i am not upset with a roster that looks like that mr scampers you need things to break your way your wide receivers are hard to compete with the other people in the league cooper cup davante adams t higgins jalen waddle dj more four quarterbacks is interesting oh and i'm on the clock oh no what do i do here that all of these tight ends are so uninspiring josh i and i and i took one of the uninspiring ones not that he doesn't have a lot of upside dolson knocks i took him in like the 10th freaking round i'm so upset about it i that was my auto pick you know i was one of those guys i thought i was going to be higher on at the end of last season going into this year until i dug into it a little bit and without those touchdowns he just wouldn't have been the guy that he was for fantasy last season it was it was touchdowns that kept his uh fantasy season as good as it was yeah it really was and you know he missed some time and he's a good tight end it's just we have stuff on digs there we now have james cook gabriel davis he's getting drafted pretty freaking high in these kinds of leagues right yeah so a lot of people is dolson knocks gonna be the number two target for this team because i think that's important if he's not he's probably getting drafted a little too high but i like dolson knocks it's just like after zackerts i mean yeah after zackerts the tight ends it's just like whatever get what you can get yeah it's gross oh and see like this is why you can wait on quarterback rock hop getting to uh right here in the what 15th round mr scampers getting Derek Carr in the 14th round like you can wait you can wait wait wait and still get very good starting quarterbacks late in these drafts yeah don't get me wrong i'm thrilled to have dealing hurts and erin rogers but i'm looking at these tight ends and maybe i wouldn't be too upset if i was in your position so i mean i still think you got good values on those guys i really do like i understand what you're saying like the dark about their car down here is i guess i'm just like i'm sitting here upset like i'm looking at my team and i love it so much when i'm getting upset about the tight end position like i feel like there's just not much i can do to correct what happened well you got kiddo right i got kiddo i got kiddo and then gasicky is my second tight end much later you got kiddo which is fine yeah we got kiddo dulcet knocks is my number one tight end you yeah that's a little gross mr. skipper said panic drafted gage directly after an auto drafted car um i don't think gage is a bad pick at this point in the draft it's a hard offense right no it's not it's not at all you you want receivers and high powered offenses what's going on man and what do i do with my next pick i there is one specific player i want josh so if you could not take them that would be fantastic i'm gonna do my best to try to take them in fact so rock rock listen did not take the player i wanted so josh now just don't take the player i want i know you and i are gunning after some of the same positions here not that you know what my biggest position of need is i don't know a freaking draft and josh your roster is fairly balanced so far two quarterbacks six running back six wide receivers in one tight end garret wilson i love the rookie pick yeah yeah you know the second rookie wide receiver drafted in the draft i believe yeah i'm drake london i think it was drake london garret wilson olave yeah and what's jahan dotzen after him men trail on bergs i think so um but yeah garret wilson has a ton of upside i currently am still projecting Elijah more for a slightly better fantasy season but garret wilson has a ton of upside he's he's a very if the jets want to highlight him it could be a great year for a minute if Zach wilson has this breakout and they're sending out for success could pay it could pan out for me and nothing but good reports coming out about zach wilson today it's just all all good news that we're eating i think i know exactly what you're talking about there we go it is my turn to draft and i am going to take oh god i don't know just do it you know what this is the guy you mentioned at the beginning of the draft is someone that's a great best ball target late and i'm gonna do it ronald james i wasn't looking at the running back position i think it's a fantastic pick i wasn't even considering the running back position and then i saw him there i was like i i'm not gonna pass on that this is on there's one more running back sitting here oh yeah there's one more running back sitting here that i'm actually a little bit excited about uh excited is the wrong word at this point in the draft excited about is the right way to put it this is so gross hunter henry i'm not i'm not a big i'm not a big fan of my team nine touchdowns last season hunter henry right yeah it's still like the ball and you you got it you're gonna think that mac jones is maybe gonna take that next step right and if he does he's still favors hunter henry that i know they signed they brought they traded for davante parker that doesn't really move the needle too much for me they're still looking for past catching options hunter henry is going to need to get more targets than he did last year i think um if he doesn't get that double digit touchdown kind of thing we're looking for but uh there could be weeks where he gets two touchdowns and he's my starting tight end yep dame took the running back i was talking about james robinson i am projecting travis etn to be the starter i'm projecting travis etn to get the majority of the work there but you cannot ignore a running back that is done with james robinson has done on the field even coming back from an injury going this late in the draft um so i love that pic we differ a little bit there i just want to see him out there first like i keep saying when we talk about this i just want to see him out there and playing because he did have an achilles injury which we all know is a little bit scary k-makers came back probably a little bit too early for the playoffs last year and he didn't play well but uh he came back he was nice to see him out there um i think that's the big takeaway there but james robinson like you said etn is the starter and a good pass catcher right yeah and that's where james robinson kind of makes his living so you know we talked about it early we talked about it earlier though like i'm not taking other people's handcuffs i'm i'm taking i mean i'm not taking my own i'm taking other people's if something happened etn james james robinson is great and i think james robinson is one of those guys like it's not a typical backup situation because we've never seen the presumed starter play an nfl snap you know what i mean whereas we have seen james robinson but we're still presuming the other guys the starter okay well dame i think it was dame who took my favorite late round tight end option and the running back i was looking at so i got a double dame like double snipe to me there yeah i as a late round tight end i love evanning down there with trevor lorence but i'll go with another late round tight end that i like david and joku yeah david and joku's got a lot of talent right it's just the jacoby percent factor is the only thing that terrifies me yeah uh jacoby percent has not really shown a lot of a lot of propensity to give his players fantasy value what's going on that way right they have not and guys we are in the 19th round that means there are only two rounds left into night's draft make these picks count fill out those final holes in your roster my roster's pretty populated it's just who do i want here really pretty populated who is the player i'm gonna just i'm gonna take a tight end within my next pick and it doesn't freaking matter if you take a tight end simon because like i'm between like three of them like i'm like oh no this is the wrong pick but i'm gonna do it no yes no sammy walkings welcome to the squad oh you are going to blow up buddy you guys are in trouble baby also creggin here letting us know achilles never came back from his injury so he set the precedent pretty early uh for those achilles that's actually hilarious that's pretty good good didn't he die from it so like something like that in the heal right got you loaded with rookie wide receivers if it just is like the last like year or so i've got three first round rookie wide receivers on my best ball josh in best ball that's what i noticed last because like towards the end of the draft it took willpower not to just draft rookies because it was like yeah huh could be anything look at all that upside look at all that upside i don't know what they're gonna be but but seriously like at this point in the draft it's like why not johan dots it know what i mean like they both have a lot of upside but we've seen me call hardman in the nfl before and he just hasn't been great before uh i like me for him probably more than most just upside-wise i'm willing to take a shot on him but yeah absolutely uh javie and dame with the pew pew and mr skander says he got an asker for it i think who got an asker for what oh god uh probably achilles oh i that's that's immediately where my mind went um was there a movie that well there was troi yeah troi uh brad pit plays achilles have you never seen that i'm not it's it's pretty good it's it's entertaining i am uh often the guy that people are surprised has never seen something so it's been nice becoming friends with j wall uh because he's kind of taken something for me that's how i that's how i create my friends i'm used to being the guy about that that food takes that's why i'm friends with jl so he takes away that heat from me j wall takes away that haven't seen that movie heat from me should i draft the tampa bay bucking your starter or the future tampa bay bucking your starter at tight end um you should draft grok all right i'll do i'll draft grok then just in case he comes back just in case he has so much more upside than camera break uh oh my god like even a camera tired please you might as well not draft anybody but i just from i'll say this i don't love camera break i don't have them ranked or projected for many points uh but there could be games like tom brady is great he likes to throw it to the tight end position and right now camera break is that tight end he's gonna have games i don't like him drafting it in normal redraft league because you're never gonna know when to start him he's not gonna get a tie to target but he's gonna have some touchdowns if grok doesn't come back i'm very confident about that yeah i agree with you and uh we're all been here saying rock hawking did great let's check out that rock hawking team before we jump off i'm just curious since someone came in and said it quarterbacks russell wilson to a tongue of i loa six running backs of darren canary erin jones james connor rees hall love that Elijah mitchell chase edmund so we were looking at this team early but they took one more running no love that love that nine wide receivers cd lamb here's where i'm a little bit worried but i know those are good those are good those are good them i i i like didn't even see i thought a j brown was his first wide receiver cd lamb a j brown that's that's good that's a good wide receiver core what is the tight ends if he has one good tight end then game i was got it dallas goddard's good he kind of doesn't separate himself i still have him below zack earths he's kind of with other people but he that's good that's good he's still a top ten tight end this is a good team yeah i the tight ends clearly your weak point like without a doubt but yeah man that's a sexy team rock whoever said that in the chat was not lyin right there guys everybody i like it better my team you want you want to take a peek at your team real quick josh tell me no okay let's look at it i've been even looked at it but what about your team do you dislike you say you dislike your team um what do you think you would have changed well first of all derrick car instead of justin fields i i that immediately just stands out a little bit i love my running backs i knew i was gonna like my running backs i kind of panic picked for shot penny but that's fine it kind of fits as your sixth running back i feel like he makes sense i don't love it i think my running backs are so solid that i don't i almost don't need a six running back almost um johar chase michael pippman these are all kind of my guys but i don't have three good wide receivers then it's marcus valdo scantlin kaderis tony tim these guys are just high upside guys and they're i don't like my team very much i don't like it this is not great you don't like it very much no i don't like the team very much well josh good news because it is eight p.m eastern time which means we are wrapping up right here we don't have to look at your team anymore but um everyone in the chat make sure to remind josh we can week out if you are beating him and josh if you happen to win this league even with how much you hate your team you got to make sure nobody ever hears the end of it like you you got to just say man that's fair though that's not even fair because like it's like you're like you don't get to talk trash if uh if this team works out just give everyone a nice little like yeah let's see doesn't even matter i could hate my team i still win doesn't matter guys guys that's gonna be it for us tonight i wanted to thank everybody who drafted along with us and just hung out in the chat with us as we went through this draft we're gonna be doing this some more leading up to the season sunday nights at seven p.m eastern time is when we'll be live and we'll be doing all different kinds of these drafts we might have a stream with a couple three person drafts we might do some more 12 man leagues and everything in between those threes get crazy it's just such fast your team's so stacked and your team is so sacked guys thank you everybody again for tuning in a couple quick reminders before we go if you have not done so already you enjoyed this stream hit that like button it makes you subscribe to fanduul on youtube if you're watching on twitch hit that follow button and then right after this show makes you go check out fanduul on tiktok instagram twitter they're at fanduul across all of those platforms and they have an incredible team of content creators helping you guys win some money and win your 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