 What time is it there? It's about 10.38 in the evening. That is hilarious. So you trade at night every time? Well, Friday nights I've been doing it. And what's happened is, recently, because of the daytime, daylight savings has changed. And so it's actually a bit more reasonable. So the US market's open 11.30 at night, Australian time, but previously it's 1.30 in the morning. So it's a good time. Wow. All right, so let's talk here. First of all, are you in it? I don't know if you, I know you're on the option letter. Did you do Disney? Look at it. Did you do that one? Oh, no, I missed that one. Oh, God, look at it. Because of the time difference and stuff, like either get in them too late, or exit too early. I'm just very up and down with my trading, that's all. So do you think that the reason is because of the time zone difference? Originally I did. But what I think it is, I think it might be all right now, because it's a bit more in sync, because it was just a bit hard, because it wasn't the time difference. You know, like I said, I wake up and I'll miss your email, so I'm a little bit late when I get into, you know, to enter. And I'm never quite sure when I, when I exit, to say for example, a couple of times, like I buy them too late, and I exit and say for example, I might miss the exit. There was a QQQ, which one did I miss? I missed the spy, that's right, because I bought it at 283, and the exit was a thing, it was 285, that's right, but I missed that exit and I went down. And the queues, which one am I just pressing? Well, you know, what are out to fill you at a certain thing? Have you thought about doing that? I mean, can you do that on your platform? I can, I did that once, and I missed the entry, because the stop moved up too high, so I prefer to watch it, and then enter. So I think it'll be all right now, with the time zones, I think I'm just going to get into a groove, where I can actually be in the trading room now. Well, Fridays are a good day. I mean, Fridays typically are a good day, so if that's the day you can really focus on it, that's good, you know? I think so. Yeah. Yeah, but I think the big thing is, for me, is believing in myself. Okay. Because I can see the potential, and I've shown up for a while, so I know lots of people make good money doing it, and I think, well, why can't I do it? And I think it's just the fear, for example, last year, because I have lost a lot of money trying to learn, which is fine. I mean, I don't mind learning, like, you know, because you're learning and stuff, and the different things I've learned to say, for example, I like your videos on YouTube, because they're actually the truth, and say, for example, when I first started trading, and it was a concern, I realised it was nutrition that was really important, and what you've said, you know, you've got to manage your body and stuff, so I learned that, and just the energy level's right, and trying to be calm, so I learnt that, and then I also learnt, say, for example, well, where I was at last year, was just before the, you know, the Trump-China war, and I lost a lot of money around that. I lost probably about $7,000, and then I found you, I think, in October or something. What were you doing? You were doing options. Yeah, I lost about $7,000 because I just didn't know how to trade, basically. Yeah. And then, and just over the years, like, you know, I just think, you know, I've lost lots of money, and I think, oh, maybe I'm just in that mind frame. I can't seem to, you know, I need to just flip the switch. You know, I know lots, like yourself, other successful people were losing money, and then all of a sudden, you know, something happened, and you kind of just made lots of money. So I'm personally still learning, you know, different methods, and I'm aware, at the stage now where I'm aware it's more your minds and your belief systems. Yes, that's where I'm kind of at. So are you, do you not believe that you can do it? Are you do, but you're, like, having 100% convinced yourself? It's like you want to believe it, but you're, like, not 100%. Like, you want to believe that you can, but you're, like, don't totally. Or what? It's like I can see the potential, and I know people can do it. I don't know if I can just do it. I mean, I know I can, because I've made wins before, but then I lose it. So maybe it's like a programming or something, or, you know, you can't make money doing this, or it's, yeah, because it actually is really interesting to be honest. I can see that, and when I do do it, I think it's, yeah, I don't know, maybe I don't believe myself at all. Well, now, have you, are you, how many days are you in the room? I haven't noticed. How many days are you in the room? And the five days of the week, how many days are you in the room? I'm usually like to get in Fridays, so I'll start off Fridays, but because of the recent, the time difference was just this week, so I might try and get in more often. Okay. Like, yeah. I definitely think if the more days you can get in the room, the better, even if it's just for, you know, the first 15, 20 minutes, you know, because of the time zone, even if it's just for that short time, even if you're not going to train some of the days because it's so late if you're too tired, except for, even if you're only going to trade live Friday, even if you can get in just to listen to what's going on or something for the beginning part of the morning, I think would be good for you just to help with the conviction, even if you're not, you know, don't feel like you rested enough to do it till the end of the week. But as far as the options trades, are you doing any of those during the week, or you're only doing the calls if I make a call on a Friday or what? And I'm doing them options. I do, I do the keys. I like the keys and the spies because I've got a bit more time, like 15 minutes before and after the market. Yes. I'm sorry, 10 minutes after, not before and after. So I like the, and then with my notes. So are you in these calls here? Because this is at 290, basically. Are you in the spy? Spy, I'm not. The Q I was last week, but I lost money on that one. The one that was expired, the one expired today you got out of or the one expired last Friday? You know, the one that spies today, that one I exited yesterday, I had a small loss. And then I bought another one, another Q this morning. And I'm sorry, I bought another Q yesterday. Yesterday I bought a Q, which was the 185. Yeah. Okay. All right. So will you next week? Sorry. Yeah, spies next week. Yeah. So you're in one Q, Q, Q, and you are in one spy or not? Excuse me, no. Sorry, ma'am. It's Qs, yeah. Okay. So you're in one Qs, and you didn't do Disney. Why didn't you do Disney again? I think I just missed the trades, the time difference and stuff. But I think I'm going to try and do, because like when you call the options, you might call three a week, and I might just do one. Because I don't like having too many trades on, I just like having one. That's okay. That's all right. That's all right. I mean, I'm perfectly fine with that, but it is going to be earning season. So I may be calling more, you know, because of earning season. So maybe you want to do two, you know, or something a week because it's earning season. You know, and if I call one in the market, do a market one and do a stock one because of the fact that there is going to be more trades because it's earning season. But if you're going to do one, I would do the market ones because I've been calling some of the good, some of the trades in the market have been pretty good enough. But this Disney is going to be huge here today. So, and this is an earnings. So, but earnings are starting now. Like the banks reported this morning, like JPMorgan is, I haven't rated any of these yet, but I'm just saying, like I would definitely, definitely maybe do a few more in the next, you know, two months, do two a week. If you just, I mean, two on shouldn't kill you to have two trades on, you know. No, I agree. I think it's the fear of just having two and just trying out. I just like one, I think that's pretty safe for me, but seriously, you're right with the earnings seasons. There's just more opportunity. Yeah, there's going to be more opportunity and you want to make money. And if you happen to pick one that doesn't work, then I could call five and four work and the one doesn't or something. So then you don't want to get frustrated. And that's again, not a product of you not having confidence or whatever. It's just the, the, the odds, you know, the odds are the ones that work and the ones that don't work. But anyways, I mean, so do you, do you, do you feel confident in your chart reading abilities? I do actually, I just need a bit more practice, but it's more the targets and when to get out. So for example, the Q's, I feared the Q's. So I got out yesterday, but no, they got up one stick. So I would have made a bit of money on that one. So the extra, I think. Yeah. So you got out of it because it was read yesterday? Is that because of the expiration date was today? Yeah, because I got out. It was a little bit red. I think that's $14 down, which isn't a big, it's not. Yeah. That's basically break even. Yeah. And then, and then I know as it, as the week, as the days come closer to expire, the options become a little, well, it depends. The options become a little. Yes. Less of value. Yes. So I noticed that too. So if it goes to one at five, then it's actually, he moves out a bit more than what you would have. So I like to exit early before options expire. I think that's happening. Well, I don't, if you're, if you're something like this, because there was, you know, there was the banks reporting this morning. My expectation was that the market could get a left on the very last day for these ones, but it, you know, either way you could take, I don't know if you're taking one or two. If you take two, you could kill one and hold one is another idea. You know what I mean? Like this. Um, but if you're only doing one, you can't do that. You mean the quantities? Yes. One by two. Yeah. Yeah. That's another, that's another idea. If you're, I mean, just, I mean, on any of the trades, even if it's not right up into the expiration, say you do a trade, like some people I know got out of Disney with profit back this day here that did it. And they're going to kick themselves in the butt this morning. But like if you, you know, sometime you could, if you take two or any quantity at all, that's more than two, you could get out of some when it's up a little. And then you can, you can also then hold some to the, to a bigger number. So that you're saying you're worried about the targets. Well, that's a way to kind of do a happy medium. And then what you could do is you could track it and see what ones do go to the bigger targets. You know, so you could either do one of two things, either take, start taking two, hold one, get out of one, as soon as it's up, hold one, or you can just start getting out of everything when it's up right away, it's not holding anything, and then track what is going to the bigger numbers and then determine maybe if you want to start to hold some of them, not every, not all of them do though. And that's part of where the chart reading again comes into play with it because like Lulu, I don't know if you probably didn't do Lulu then if you're only doing one a week, but Lulu ran up that first day and then didn't act right at all then that second day. And then all of a sudden of surprise, surprise, it did go in to be positive at the very last, at the very last day, which was odd. But I mean, if you look at this one here, like it was clear that this wasn't right in here in the first two days. Like it shouldn't, that's not what I thought it would do, you know? When you call them, I do actually watch them and just monitor them and just say, I should call them that, but that's it. What did you do Costco was another big one. Or did you do that one? No, I didn't do that one. I was a fail and I didn't do that one either. I had something funny. No, I didn't do that one either. Oh my gosh, Diane, you know, I seem to be missing out on the good one. I mean, I should be thankful for getting a profit, but it feels a bit of the same way. Yeah. Yeah. So I've just got to flip that switch. So you reckon just reading the charts a bit more and just becoming a bit more. What, how did you, how did it, because you mentioned you were losing money and then all of a sudden it clicks. Is that cause just perseverance, reading the charts, et cetera? Well, I mean, at the beginning, I didn't understand what I was doing. You know what I mean? So it was a period of not understanding what the, what with the charts were telling me. So that's, you know, once. And then like I said, it was about three years to develop my system. So for me, and the greatest piece of it is the biggest part of it is having understanding what the gaps are telling me in the information and what ones are good and what ones are not good. So for me, that was the biggest, the biggest piece of it that, that obviously when people are starting out, if they don't have a strategy, then they're all over the place. I will say that having a good mental positive attitude, believing yourself, all of that is definitely key, but really you're still won't make money in the market if you don't have a good strategy, even if you, even if you have all the confidence in the world, because obviously, like for example, if you were short, short Disney here, you'd be down a lot of money, no matter what today. You know, so you have to have a, you have to have the strategies, the meat and potatoes, and then the confidence part of it adds on to that to make you stronger and doing it. I've always been a confident person, but at the beginning, I didn't have the strategy. So that's what took a long time to figure out. But I mean, the fact that I was confident did help me persevere through the ups and downs of it, realizing that, wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense. I've got to be able to figure this out kind of thing, and then the wanting it, wanting it, wanting it. For you, maybe just talking to you here, and again, this is the first time where we're speaking, just my take on you is that maybe you're a little bit too tepid, you're a little bit too, you know, tippy-toe. You know, I think that's why I'm saying like, you know, I don't think doing two trains a week is like jumping off a cliff. So I think you need to kind of like be a little bit more full on, go crazy with your risk or whatever. But I'm saying like, you're a little too tippy-toe. So, you know, and part of that is, you can't spend five days a week doing it right now, you have the time zone things, and you have your job. So I think you need to get a little bit more into it. And even though it's safer for you to be doing one, and like kind of just thinking it through, I think you need to push yourself a little bit more. Because, you know, you'll feel than stronger by doing that. And again, two trains a week is not, you know, even if you would lose in two trains a week, that's not the end of the world, you know. So I mean, and I'm not saying you're gonna, because I've been making some great calls. So I think you need to push yourself a little bit more, is what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right. And I mean, your strategy works. I can see it works. The thing is, it's gonna be more committed, and just have a routine, I think. Just a routine as in, oh well, we'll do four, three trains a week. I mean, your goal was very reasonable. I forget what you told me your goal was last year. It was so reasonable. I was like, you wanted to make a thousand dollars a month or something. I don't know. It was really reasonable what your goal was. To start off with, yeah. Yeah. So I mean, you should be making that right now with the calls I've been doing. But you're not doing all the trades. Well, I'm not doing all the trades. And I'm very up and down at the moment, like it's up and then it's red. It's green and then red and green and red and up and down. So like you, like what did you have at risk in the queues? Like what was your price in this? You said you killed it and lost 14 bucks. What did you pay for that one? Yeah, I'll just look at one night. So, how's it for cats here? Queues was a paid 93% and I bought it at 183.69. That was Thursday. That was Thursday last week. That's right. Yeah, yeah. So it's about a week ago. Okay. So you paid, you paid, so you had two or one, you paid 93 cents for? No, I bought one. Yeah. Okay. So what would have been the worst thing in the world if you had held this, the worst thing in the world would have happened is you would have lost $93. True. True. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, worst thing in the world. Now, obviously, if you'd held this to today, this would have been positive, but you'll be up in the other one that you took. That's fine. But I'm just saying like, kind of maybe think of it like that. Like, this is what I'm saying. Like push yourself a little bit. Like, I think you're, you're, you're almost like, you're almost like shy about it now because of the losses that you took before you found me and over the years. And so, like we're talking about 2018, that still sticks in your mind, that $7,000. So you're almost like so shy now, like now you're learning what to do, but you're like so shy, you're like dumbstruck because of all the things that happened in the past now that, now that you're doing something that's good and I'm calling good trades, you're like trade after trade, it's working, you're missing them, you're not doing them because you're kind of like, you're kind of like, a little bit scared about, because of the things that happened like, umpteen years ago or like, 2018, February 2018, which was, you know, over a year ago. So you need, that was a different place, it was a different time, now it's a different year, and you took my class, and I'm calling good trades, and everything is different, it's not even remotely the same. So you need to kind of look at it like that. So you're saying, well, I feel like hesitant because of these things that happened, but none of those things even matter anymore. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense, you even got burnt, so I'm just a bit, um, fearful about that I think. But just because it got burnt in the past, doesn't mean you're going to get burnt. Now you got burnt before you did my class. You got burnt before you started getting my trades. You don't want to let this whole year go by where you're in the room and on the letter of me calling these trades, and then all of a sudden it's the end of 2019, and you're like, ah crap, I should have done more of the trades. You know what I'm saying? What I'm worried about because, you know, I'm just not really committed yet. You know, I may have to stone. But you don't have to 100% commit yourself five days or we can quit your job right now. Doing, doing a, taking five more steps forward or two more steps forward. Like I said, doing two more trades or whatever, that's not throwing, you know, that's not jumping off a cliff. That's, that's still just moving a little bit forward where you should still feel in a safe zone. And trust me, it's not going to take that long. If you had done Disney, maybe this is all you would have needed. I mean, I don't, I don't even know what this is going to open up today or be worth at this point. But if you had done Disney, it was the 120 strikes. It's $4 through the strike and it's got two more weeks left. So God knows what this will be worth. So if you had done this trade and made two grand, just risking a little bit of money, I don't, again, I don't know if that's what it's going to be worth, but I'm just saying that you might only need something like that to help your confidence really get a boost. But you're not allowing that for yourself because you're, you're being too shy about taking the trades. Yeah, my plan was an options trade and if they traded, it could get a bit more experience and confidence in both. Okay. That was what I would like to do. So, is there a balance for the system and then I wanted to do your other course, which was the options one, pending time zones and all that business. So yeah, that was my plan. Yeah. I mean, I think that you, you're not doing bad. You think you're doing bad because you feel like you're not making a progress, but you're really just, I just think you're overthinking doing a lot of the trades. And I think you're definitely, definitely, definitely thinking too much about things that happened in the past. The past is not now. Now is now. The future is not the past either and the future isn't even now, but the future is going to look exactly like now where you're not where you want to be if you don't stop thinking about the past. I feel like immensely in a better place because I'm more, I'm not, you know, when I put on trades in the past, it was more fearful, but now that fee is not there, it's just a bit more confidence on actually doing the trade. It's more when I get out and I'm not sure of how long to keep them. So I kind of, you're right, I kind of kept the queues until today, but then, you know, I just thought, no, I'm going to lose money. $14 a lot, but at the $9.3, I guess. Well, that's true. And you took another one. You took another one. So the market rallies today, the market rallies. So what are you going to do with this one? So you took another one here. And though I didn't call a queue straight yesterday, you took it. What are you going to do with this one? If this runs up today to $187, $188 or whatever, you could be up $100 bucks or whatever. Are you going to get out of it? Or what are you going to do with this? If it goes up to $187, I'll close the trade and be happy with the profit to take that. Because you know what, I discovered you're right about being the trades a short time, get the money and out. Because what I found is when I stand too long, you know, it's there's too much of, there's too much of a, I guess, a gap, too much of a space to allow for it to go down. And then you can't recover. And then I hold on to it too long. Yeah, so I've observed that as well. If I like to be the trades one or two days, three days, if I've got profit, I'm happy. Just to build up that confidence and I guess the balance. Yeah, I mean, if you are risking $100 bucks on average, you should be trying to make $100. But if you can make $50, like in the first half an hour or even in the options trades, you could trade them like day trades and get out and just do the next one. And maybe you can, if your thing is really you're concerned about being in like five at one time, then maybe you could do one, get out and do the next one and then get out and do the next one and hold it. Like you could be more, what I'm saying is maybe you need to try to be a little bit more active. Even, I'm not saying do everything in the planet. I'm just saying be a little bit more active because one, it's earning season. Two, I'm calling good trades. And three, you need to almost test yourself. This is like a test period for you. Are you really, are you really having confidence problems or it's that you're just not booking the money, but it's impossible to book the money if you don't take the trades. So I mean, it's kind of like, do you know what I mean? Like maybe your confidence isn't that bad, but you're not doing the trades. So I mean, like this is like a test period where you're testing yourself. Is it really, is it really that your confidence? Are you really scared or is it just that you're just not doing them? Yeah. Because you're right, actually. It's more the being more involved in practice, I guess, and being more involved. And yeah, you're allowed to do something about that. Maybe just, what do you do? You have visions of what you want to achieve. Is that, you set yourself intentions up with it? I would do that for yourself even on a very small scale, like even between now and May 31st. Say, okay, then between now and the Memorial Day holiday or whatever it is, you know, just between now and the busy season, Wards-earning season, I want to make this much money and just have it out there and visualize it and be specific about it. You could say, I want to make this much money between now and then. I'm going to do, you know, two positive trades a week or just pick something and visualize and be specific. Sometimes it's hard for people to take on too many things in their mind if they're not used to doing manifestation or visualization. Just have something in your mind but make it concrete. Don't just say, well, I want to get better. That's not specific enough. You could say, well, I want to make $2,000 between now and May 31st trading, doing options and day trades. And I want to, you know, gain and build up my confidence or if that's going to build your confidence, I don't know. I don't know what it's going to take to build your confidence but I know that losing $14 and making $100 is probably not enough because you need to become more involved in doing it. And then the number one thing also which is not manifesting anything but it's just being aware of it in your mind when you start to go through the mental anguish of the things that happened in the past. When those things come up, you've got to just nip it in the butt and stop thinking like that right away and just say, oh, I don't know why. I just thought about that. That was crazy because when you keep thinking about those things even if you're not aware of it, subconsciously it is affecting your ability to be able to be everything that you can be right now because those things keep coming up. You can call it fear. You can call it hesitation. You can call it whatever. The money that you lost, the $7,000, the money you lost in the past is gone. It's just gone and you're never going to make it back from the market or you're never going to move forward and make more than you lost if you don't start to become just living right now in this moment and doing the trades because trade after trade like Alta, Costco, Disney, all these trades go and go and go and go and go and you're not going to do them and you're not going to have the money and you're going to see that it works but you've got to feel it and the only way to feel it is to really is to do it. Sometimes you'll feel pissed off though if a trade doesn't work and you take a loss if you had held the cues and then we gap down today and you want to be down a hundred dollars you might have kicked yourself in the butt for holding it saying, oh gosh darn it I could have killed that for 14 bucks and I lost 93 but you just get over it you get over it and you let it go you can beat yourself up for five minutes or half an hour but you can't beat yourself up for things that you did in 2018 and that's what I heard you saying I didn't know what I was doing and I lost that money and do-do-do-do you're beating yourself up you're working against yourself when you're saying things like that beat yourself up for five minutes if you feel like you need to do it but that's it then you let it go all right good okay all right so the market's open half an hour yeah I need to get going here for the room but be in the room today okay we'll do all right I'll speak to you shortly all right it's great talking to you I'm gonna say thank you okay bye bye bye