 Hey guys, haven't done a setup like this in a little while, not since season 15, but I asked you guys to give me your comments about Swan Song, and you did definitely for the Two Minutes to Midnight review. And first off, before we get into these, thank you to everyone who has watched the video, thanks to everyone who has commented on the video, thank you to everyone who's liked the video, to anyone who has shared it, if anyone has done that, thank you as well. The reception for it has been really, really good. It's going to delay the review of the season by a week, but this is going to be so long, and I only just got back from bag end, which I'll have to talk about in a few days. The first off, the one thing I realized once I watched it for the premiere was that it didn't get a rating, but it's a 7 out of 7, it's a guaranteed thing, but I just realized that I didn't do that. The second thing is, for those who did comment about it, I'm sorry again that I had to put that stupid boob tube filter over it. I literally have no idea how other channels don't run into this issue, because it wasn't a means of monetization at first. I wanted to have the video have some sort of profit off of it, if that'd be like pennies, but it was just not getting it blocked, either from around the world or on phone. The phone one was the one that I was just so combative with. I put up 10 different versions. Eventually at one point I reached this roadblock where I actually couldn't upload anything anymore for 24 hours. I've never run into that issue before. In my entire time of being on YouTube, I have never run into that issue. That's how many times I just kept up re-uploading, fixing one thing, re-uploading, finding another thing to fix. For those of you who stuck around and watched the whole video and whatever, thank you. Thank you so much. It was a labor. I think I probably put a good three days into just trying to get it uploaded. It was ridiculous. Either way, that's it. Now onto the comment reading. I'm very excited to read what you guys have to say. This video will be quite long, so that's why there's probably going to be no season review this week. I'll probably be next week, but I hope you guys stick around for that next week. And then just one little preface, Joe. I will be reading your post that you did on the Patreon page. He was having issues. Put it on YouTube for some reason, but yours is last because yours is a tome. But no disrespect. It's the longest one, so it's definitely going to go at the end. But either way, I hope you guys enjoyed this reading, so let's get into it. It's going to take a while, so let's just get started. This one's first one here is from Sivian. Swan Song. It's hard to find anything wrong with this episode. Every moment, every scene, every piece of dialogue, it just works so well. I remember when I watched this episode for the first time, I locked the door, turned off, everything started to watch this episode, and it was perfect. This episode is one of the best, is one of those examples when you can feel like it can't be any better. 100% agree. I love how they concluded Dean and Sam's arcs, and one sacrifices himself because of what he did last season, but on the other hand, the other starts living a normal apple pie life. It's pretty much like Iron Man and Captain America. Sam, I let Lucifer out. I've got to put him back in. I like how Castiel's arc concluded. Also, I love the first scene that sets the whole point of the show. There is no destiny. The ass-butt moment is also great. The moment where Dean comes to the cemetery has one of the best songs in the entire show. Not only that, but I believe that if there is a series finale, people will still talk about Chuck's character and wonder if he is a god. And also, I freaking love Chuck's monologue at the end. So good. So what does it all add up to? Hard to say. But for me, I'd say this was a test for Sam and Dean. And I think they did all right. Up against good, evil, destiny, and God himself. They made their own choice, and they chose family. And, well, isn't that the whole point? The episode climax where Lucifer beats the shit out of Dean makes me cry every time. It's gonna be okay, Sammy. I'm not gonna leave you. I'm not gonna leave you. 100% like that part gets to me every time when I watch this episode. In the end, I want to say that if the show concluded here, it would have been even better than the Breaking Bad finale for me. But I still like that the show continued because we saw some other amazing episodes. I watched this episode 10 times, and I still have the same emotions. 10 out of 10. 100 out of 100. 7 out of 7. 5 out of 5, etc. Now, say it's better than Breaking Bad. Like Breaking Bad, like the overall, that so is just a continued narrative. It's probably also kind of a contemplation into why I don't enjoy any of Supernatural as much after season 5. And that's kind of its own creation because it was a season by season storyline. You can't, they didn't really know. They didn't have any room to create a continuing narrative. Like they could maybe drop little tidbits here and there. But in the actual sense of a continued narrative, nothing from season 6 to season 15 has any as much pertinence as anything that happened between season 1 and season 5. There's nowhere near as much connectivity. And that's why Swan Song just has that massive effect on people. This one's from Nikos. Swan Song, we are finally here. This is the best episode of the show. My personal number one favorite and Eric Kripke's Magnum Opus. The perfect ending for the show. This episode was originally intended to be the ending of the show, but Robert Singer decided to milk it twice. And even though I binge the show, I can see it. The end, this is the end game material. The accumulation of the Biblical Apocalypse, the ultimate battle. This episode has the best acting, the best direction, and of course the most emotional moments in the series. I'm just one little pause. I like Steve Boehm. I think he did a really good job with this episode, but admittedly in my heart I wanted Kim Manners to do this episode so badly, but obviously he had passed away in season 4. But just imagine how good this episode, like it's already fantastic, but imagine it could have been one level higher if Kim Manners was still with us at that time. Even though I am hardened up and I keep my emotions in check, I cried five times in the show. Supernatural has the distinction to make me cry twice, one of which is at the end and the fact that Dean has to live his life without Sam. But it was a necessary sacrifice for the good of humanity that the brothers fully accept, and that's why we love these characters despite their flaws. They're willing to give up their lives for people they don't even know. They weren't a bunch of whiny selfish brats that Andrew Dan made them. They were two brothers that loved each other and accepted their responsibility. I just love everything about Swan Song and there's nothing more to say. Other than I can't figure out, I didn't figure out that Chuck was God at his final moments, but I accepted that he was now that I've seen the show. And now that this question is going to be asked, so here it is, would I have liked the show to end here? No, I am not going to be that guy that thrusts the rest of the seasons because of they were not as good as the first five and never understood the kind of logic. If something is not as good as the thing that they were watching previously but still good nonetheless, does it not make it good or worthy of even hate? To me, it's a no because I get some really great stuff later on in the Jeremy Carver era. Yep, no, 100% Jeremy Carver brought the show back, especially with season eight, the episode where Dean almost gets killed by Castiel. That was, I felt like that was a turning mark in the show going back to some good quality. Season nine or more so ten, the Demon Dean era I thought was kind of boring considering what it could have been. If Kripke's era is a Marvel Infinity saga then Jeremy Carver's era is Marvel phase four done right. He found a way to make the continuation of the show relevant and give us something to me at least equal as epic as those first five seasons, including my third favorite season of the show, season 11. So yeah, I'm glad the show went on. However, and this is a double-edged sword, if there was only one way to spare us from the Andrew Dab era, then I would have gladly taken it. But last and not least, can you answer me this, if you know this, was the final shot of the Sam reshoot because the show was renewed or is it just my imagination? To me, it always felt like a reshoot, Dean Leeson, the house disappears after it cuts the Sam. Now, I think it was intentional. One thing that Joe's going to bring up in his comment is how that they renewed, they were going to continue, they made the announcement back in February apparently of 2010. So no, it wasn't a reshoot. I imagine they might have gone back and forth on how to end it, but no, unfortunately it is not a reshoot. Now, we got Harry Williams here. Swansong is my all-time favorite episode of the show. It would have been a perfect ending to the show, loved every second. I love it when Sam says yes and you think it's going to work and then he goes to the edge of the door to the cage and says Sammy is long gone. I'm just messing with you. I remember when I first watched it thinking that that monologue when it says yellow light has been preparing Sam, oh yellow eyes, has been preparing Sam the whole time. Everyone he knew was a demon was brilliant. Then the whole pit where the two angels talking about before they fight and Dean interrupting is so good. I love that the show started with Sam and Dean and it would have ended with both of them. The bit where Lucifer is beating Dean up gives me chills, especially at the light reflects off the car and you see those memories that Sam remembers. Brilliant episode. 7 out of 7 had me on the edge of my seat. I imagine the part where Dean is getting the shit kicked out of him is going to come up a lot and it's probably the most emotional element of the show for me. That in the memory. I wanted that to be in the review so badly. I wanted the whole bit because it is. It's probably one of the best montages a show has ever done and it didn't have any music. It didn't have anything sappy or anything. It just had wind in the background. That's once from Aaron Drake. What can be said about swan song that hasn't already? It was somewhat sad that after 10 years nothing really came close. This really should have been where it ended. I'm a fan of the later seasons but without any roadmap for where the show was going hampered the show in the long run. Now going back also to Nikos' comment. Yeah like I'm not saying that anything that happened after season 5 isn't good. Like there are some goods. There's some ups. There's some downs. There's some decent in there. The last 7 out of 7 I gave was even in season 12 and so that was an Andrew Dabb era 7. But in terms of the long run of how everything went in the end. Sorry I think I'm unfocused. I definitely feel that there could have been. I wish there had been a more of a connected roadmap in terms of the seasons after season 5. But as I said they didn't have the liberty to know. So imagine the absolute struggle for this show. It's why it became so serial in terms of it's like a serial show. It couldn't connect. It couldn't keep a consistency for that reason because of how the show was put together. So that would have been a fucking writing nightmare. If you want an example of it done very very fucking poorly. Riverdale. They don't know what they're doing. They don't even know. The actors don't know. The writers don't know. Everyone on that show I've said I've worked with has told me that it's just it's off the like they make this shit off the cuff. It's just that bananas and people still eat it up. So they're like we know it's working might as well even though that's apparently behind the scenes. It's an absolute fucking nightmare to work on that show. Everything came to an end. I'm coming back to the comment here. Everything came to a head in this episode. Sam and Dean's character arcs. Dean finally letting Sam go. Which is something later seasons botched because that was good development. With Dean realizing Sam was an adult and capable to make his own destiny. Five seasons come to an end to one of the best closures in television history in my opinion. The stakes are high and somehow our guys come through. I won't really say anything more because I don't want to add. I don't know what to add. And if I had to nitpick anything in this episode it's kind of the useless murders of Bobby and Castiel. If they were going to bring them back on the same episode I needed them out of the way for Sam and Fire versus Dean. They could have been knocked unconscious. And a shout out to Chuck here. We've all discussed verbatim his villainous turn so he won't go there. But I knew he was God as soon as he disappeared. And I always love that he helped behind the scenes in plain sight. So that in a way he wasn't passive but also not interfering to the point that he could say he was violating anyone's free will. Great stuff. And the monologue about the Impala while when it first aired I was kind of confused why that was eating up so much screen time but it was a nice love letter to one of the most iconic elements of the show. Without leaving tacky or two tongue-in-cheek. Best supernatural episode ever with a carry on my wayward son recap. Going to the nitpick I think you needed to have some loss. You needed to feel some kind of like you already was a pretty hopeless situation so having Castiel and Bobby die made you go like it's what helps add that oof to it. Yeah sure it's kind of weird that they just come back immediately but I think that's a resolution. You couldn't just leave them dead. If you were gonna continue the show. If they weren't gonna continue the show I almost think that they totally would have died. I think so. I think they would have stayed dead. That would have been crazy. And then I didn't I had a feeling that truck was gone but I also liked that they didn't 100% answer it. That ambiguity is always one of my favorite elements of storytelling when done right. When you don't fully give people the answer you let you leave them enough for them to kind of stir in it and wonder what they're doing. So I always like that and right now comment here from cookie2118. Swan Song I really love this episode but there is one thing I want to mention that brings this episode down a little. I'm willing to let Bobby and Castiel to bet bet yeah there we go. I'm willing to bet Bobby and Castiel would have stayed dead and Sam's sacrifice wouldn't be temporary until next season starts up. That was the only thing that let me down in this episode. All the sacrifices and the losses the guys suffer were quickly reversed. I understand that the reasons behind it these four misfits are our heroes and are for our show to continue they need to be around but I still it still undermined the emotional impact. Apart from that I can't find any other faults. Also the original ending with Dean is perfect in my eyes throughout the seasons. It was pretty clear that given the freedom Dean would love to have a family in a normal life like you know what if and what should never be. Oh what is and what should never be and the kids are all right. He just never thought it was possible for him. His heaven includes peanut butter sandwiches with a crust cut off so I think in an ideal world he would have loved to have settled down with Lisa and he did that. The other great thing about Swan Song was that it couldn't have been interpreted as an open ending even if the show hadn't returned the following season. Meanwhile the subsequent finales have a clear I've clearly been set up for fans to return for the next season premiere. This was what made these episodes carry a fair bit of emptiness to them. Overall I give this episode a six out of seven gallons of demon blood. That's great. Yeah like I said I feel that they needed to bring them back because they were going to continue the show but yeah no it it sort of can feel that way but as I said endings and as this episode says endings are hard and I feel that they still do the best with what they have even though they can't you know do it the 100% ending way. I got it coming from Wabbit 1 2 3 wow what an amazing finale it makes you it really makes you look back at the whole show and just shows you how everything was so well connected. Sure the final scene was a bit cheap but even that could be forgiven. This would have been my second or third favorite finale of any show but they just couldn't help themselves no they couldn't. I've got a comment here from Angela Holmes let's just open up yours here. Swan Song is definitely one of the best episodes in the series this episode came full circle to me. I really love the narration of Chuck in this episode and you can't and you can tell that Dean is scared of losing Sam because he has lost so many people that he really cared about in his life. His mother, his father, Ellen, Joe. I wasn't surprised that Sam forced Dean to promise him not to break him out of the cage. Jared did a great job as Lucifer. I really enjoyed seeing the conversation between Lucifer and Sam in the mirror is one of the best parts of this episode definitely and I enjoyed seeing Michael and Lucifer talk at the graveyard. You can definitely tell that the relationship is similar to Sam and Dean especially when it came to their fathers. I'm glad that Dean decides to try and stop the battle between them love seeing Castiel. Calling Michael Asputt and set Michael on fire but I was sad seeing him get killed by Lucifer and what I didn't expect to happen was Michael also ending up in the cage. I really love the talk between Castiel and Dean in the car. I was glad that Dean went to Lisa and left the hunting life he definitely deserved. I deserved it. I started wondering if Chuck was God when he vanished in the chair. Caryon didn't come anywhere close to being as great a swan song even though I enjoyed the other seasons after season five. The show should have just ended here. Yes. Now yeah again pretty much like I'm curious to see I wish if there is anyone like I don't know if it's a special feature I don't imagine it would be but I would love if there was one question I could ever go to one of these cons and if Kripke was there and if it hasn't already been asked of him I would ask him like if you knew season five was your ending you like the show wasn't going on what would you have done differently like what are the little slight subtleties you would have changed if there was any that you had planned to be changed and we got Shannon Miller here one of my patreon supporters swan song I love the this climax of the hero's journey these guys are spectacular in their bravery and commitment able to do nothing else Dean is determined to be there for his brother if only to stand by his side while Sam furthers the cause to save the world Chuck obviously felt the same way I love that he shined a ray of light on the toy soldier which revealed Sam's memories of the love and innocence allowing him to wrestle free of Lucifer the story of Sam and Dean was often punctuated with the explicit understanding of Dean's need to protect Sam considering his job in season two etc it's also been satirized by Zachariah not sure it needed to be punctuated again in this episode my objection isn't that so much as almost too casual conversation about Sam's worthiness to sacrifice himself and the strength to carry it out losing your brother isn't merely Sam's death at the sub and subsequent Dean's subsequent grief grief it's Sam's soul doomed to an eternity in health with Lucifer okay I will I will say that he kind of casually talks about that idea like you know you think you be uh maybe but that's poor so in the episode before right um and also I think at this this point they don't have any other option they don't they'd have nothing because we're not going into the Andrew Dabb era of McGuffins at that point yet I've got one here from Ron H a fiddle of gold against your soul I can't believe it's finally here swan song is the best episode of supernatural hands down it is has all built to this with five seasons awesome seasons of storytelling and if I asked and if asked I would tell anyone interested in starting this series to only watch the first five seasons then stop with it like the last minute of this episode as to not see Sam standing in the street now funny enough actually I actually tell people that the same thing I say like once you get to this point like a minute before the ending like the last 10 seconds really this is where you should consider whether you want to continue this or not because the first five seasons are all connected everything afterwards is kind of making up as a making it up as it goes pick the show back up after a break or treat it as a serious finale because it is infinitely better than the show's real finale where to start Dean agreeing to go with Sam's plan showing some growth he has gone through and understanding it's really the only way good thing Dean knows where Lucifer is and a nice payoff to what we were told in the Devils in Detroit I absolutely love Mark's performance when juiced up Sam and Dean confront Lucifer just to find out that he's known the plan the big plan in his game to try with one last taunt from Lucifer Sam said yes Dean throws the rings on the walls and opens the cage it's funny because the command to open and close the cage are burnt into my brain for some reason the only thing I thought was weird in this episode is Lucifer messing with Dean getting up and walking towards the cages and you see Sam's face chains so I always wondered if Lucifer was lying in that moment or what he then proceeds to close the cage takes the rings taunts Dean one more time before making his his leave I feel that that's kind of a part of what Lucifer is he's always a taunter he's always kind of um you know playing with people but yeah there's a possibility that Sam might have had control um if slightly uh also it's dramatic it's dramatic as fuck then one of my favorite looks from Dean in the series as he turns around with tears in his eyes hands on his head feeling destroyed from what just happened you can't help but feel the weight of what he is going to do what is he gonna do now now let's talk about Lucifer and Sam's body Jared is absolutely crushing it with the back and forth performance of Lucifer seeing Sam he's being led down this path his whole life and that we need a bond they need a bonding session where they violently murder all the demons that helped Sam get there in the first place I love how distinctly different Lucifer is and how he feels a bit more flushed out than what we saw him wearing Sam to prom in the future shout out to Chuck for giving us back giving us a backstory on the car early in the episode as well as dropping the location of the title flight how can you not love the conversation between Michael and Lucifer in the cemetery honestly I agree with Lucifer fuck the plan just walk off the board together even though it is Lucifer not taking responsibility for the actual evil that he has done Jake Abel does a good job a great job with Michael in the series if only they didn't do a dirty later on one of the things that makes this so great is the weight you feel during basically the whole episode but especially the stuff in the cemetery it feels like these guys are up about to destroy the world fighting and ah it's so tense ah so tense and awesome you can contrast this with later in the series just the writers being like I guess they fight punch punch fight over oh the fight choreography in the show got so bad later on so no uh yeah when they did the season fight when they did the fight between the two of them in season 13 I thought it was such a joke I was not impressed with that Dean makes a epic entrance and I find it hilarious that Michael and Lucifer just stand there and watch probably both rolling their eyes the Molotov cocktail of holy oil Michael is it temporarily taken off the board and you get to see Lucifer legit angry for messing with his big brother and probably my favorite show of force Lucifer snaps his fingers and Castile just fucking explodes a trope the show wouldn't would entirely overuse in the future and irritated Lucifer throws Dean into the car and Bobby trying to protect him Dean gets his neck broken Lucifer starts absolutely pummeling Dean in the face which by the way is some of the some awesome makeup work Dean's face looks completely messed up and again they would try and do this later on in the series and it's almost laughable it's like oh they're doing that again you then get a great montage of the brothers in this show as Sam wins control of from Lucifer going back to the makeup actually I would say when Dean dies at the end of season nine I think that's pretty good makeup too um then you get the oh shit feeling he's gonna go do it when Michael comes back and they both fall into the cage and the day is seemingly saved I love Chuck's monologue feels like it's Kripke talking directly to the audience these first five seasons are Kripke's masterpiece and are for sure the best this series has to offer there are good things about some of the later stuff in that show in that in the stuff that is good and worth checking out but I recommend giving it some space after the first five first five if you do check it out supernatural continues to do something that is extremely important to me even though I didn't go through watching it as much anymore these characters will always have a special place in my heart seven out of seven and then we got one very simple one here from hollow man I love the part where Dean tries to talk shit to Lucifer only to stop talking because after Lucifer completely after Lucifer gives him a stare all right we got one from Harrow master here Harrow master 13 what can I possibly say that hasn't already been said about this episode swan song is beautifully written filmed acted emotional roller coaster of an episode in a great ending to season five and would have been a great ending to supernatural if Robert Singer hadn't been too greedy too bad he was everything is amazing in this finale Eric Kripke and the director Steve Boyam should have been proud of themselves that is tragic exciting brutal and heartbreaking there are three things that make me cry the ending of terminator two judgment day the ending of the green mile oh that is that is definitely one and this episode is supernatural the part where Lucifer beats the shit out of Dean and then sees the green toy soldier which is stuck in the ashtray of the impala and suddenly we get flashbacks of the boys when they were kids all the way through season one and five it all comes back like a flood and suddenly Dean is dropped it is dropped and Lucifer stands back only it isn't Lucifer anymore it's Sam he looks at Dean and Dean looks up at him that sad look Sam gives his brother and then tells Dean that everything is going to be all right Sam throws the rings on the hole the cage is open and then Michael shows up and they both fall into the pit the hole closes leaving Dean lying broken and bloody against the impala and the screen goes dark this whole part man just thinking about it makes me sad I also thought the voiceovers from Chuck in this episode gave the finale an even more special feel than normal it's like the story is coming to an end I have been on I've been on Reddit and other social media platforms where swan song was discussed and some people and some people wrote that they wouldn't have find it satisfying if it truly had been the end here because it's too dark and sad I don't know why a sad ending is a bad thing the way supernatural was going in season one through five you knew the boys weren't going to end up entirely happy and the thing is that Sam and Dean broke the world with their actions how many people suffered and died when Dean sold his soul because he couldn't let Sam go and how many more suffered and died because Sam couldn't go let go of Dean after Dean ended up in hell and continued hunting for revenge sure they thought uh sure they thought they were going to they were doing good but tell that to anyone who was possessed or killed by demons and angels during the apocalypse not to mention the release the four horsemen and the horror Babylon who killed a lot of people and yes we you can say they were manipulated by angels and demons and like pawns in a chess game but they were practically walked into being pawns no one manipulated Dean Arjan into selling their soul and breaking the first seal and all ruby did was encourage Sam's already single minded desire for revenge for vengeance and thereby making him break the final seal where he killed Lilith what we see is swansong of the consequences of Sam and Dean's actions Dean being desperate to fight despite fighting a new family with Lisa and Ben is forever now separated from Sam even in death and Sam is punished forever being in the cage with Lucifer and Michael it's a bittersweet and sad ending it's supernatural had it ended here it would have been satisfying conclusion in my opinion if I had to nitpick one thing about swansong is that the last shot Sam appearing considering what happens to the show after season five I hate this scene now seriously when I rewatched this episode I skipped the final this this scene fast forwarded to the credits the last shot of swansong should have been Dean Lisa and Ben sitting at the dinner table then the long shot of the house and then cut to credits that would have been perfect oh and all I guess swansong is seven out of seven it's easily the best episode of season five and in my opinion the best episode is supernatural it truly deserved the highest rating on on IMDB PS I will not rewatch season six seven eight and ten sorry Jeremy I just can't do it you know what man that's fine like the fact that you were along for this I'm happy for that if you do kind of sit around and kind of watch along maybe I do have some interesting takes especially with certain episodes there's going to be a few here and there that are like you know those are good episodes so I'm hoping if you come along for that that'd be great but otherwise I understand uh binge watch your fanatic here swansong is still in my opinion the series finale and in my thoughts the rest of the is just a spin-off swansong I gave a 10 out of 10 but if supernatural ended even in season 11 I would have preferred season 11 as the show's second series finale as well because we will can see Jeremy Carver planned season 11 as the end of the show he did have a plan to ending for it and you can see it because there's literally nothing they could have done after that when they hope the biggest issue is season 12 like all critiques about Andrew Dab aside he was going in with two broken legs going into season 12 they had already been Lucifer they had already beaten the literal second being of existence aside from God there was nowhere else they could have gone in terms of like the writing it sucked the show's writing sucked but yeah like either way he couldn't have done anything like I'll give Andrew Dab that credit he was fucked from the beginning good job now we got K. Mars here good job mate you have accomplished your goal of reviewing the show definitely earned your king-sized Snickers bar yes I have I'm gonna go get one after this this is the episode that tied the show the whole show together the paybacks felt earned and deserved the ending that had weight behind the actions of characters and plot lines one that you that left you feeling emotional emotions other than disappointment and deflation these the series finally worked well for me because God was not in the story as the main focus but rather an observer to his creations and with humans proving that they possessed love and loyalty to each other more than him no that's a very good comment actually hope you stick around for others I like that one oh got one more from hollow man they're not so subtle part about endings being hard is great but also very true many shows completely fell apart at even after a few episodes but before before the end shows wish they could have could end as bittersweet as swan song damn near perfect and retrospective hearing chuck's narration about an endings makes me kind of sad as he's borderline screaming into the camera saying boy this sure would be good time to quit to call it quits huh as if it's the people working on the show know that they won't be able to pull off an ending as good as this again pretty much like they got close with season 11 but not that close and this is the last one on the page here of the youtube page from souvenir success this may be an unpopular opinion but I actually prefer the ending carry on the bro the brothers in heaven to the ending of swan song although you already know which is the superior episode as a whole okay glad we got that out of the way swan song ages much more gracefully this whole the whole crew put in a lot of effort into making this ending to season five the masterpiece that it is and it holds up the open ended conclusion here begs the question did god bring sam back or did lucifer escape the cage somehow it's a good cliffhanger similar to how many how many horror movies end a genre this show was tried to emulate from day one that's not that's a good observation right there I prefer to think that it was intentional and not a scene added on because of season six's renewal one of the best elements here is the glimpses of the brothers lives outside of hunting through the eyes of the impala it builds that final confrontation well because to be honest it would have been easy for sam taking back the wheel from lucifer to come off as cheesy but it doesn't in uh episode 18 of season five dean sarcastically responds to a question about how they're they're planning to beat the devil well we're planning on the power of love to save us and that's literally the route the show goes but it works uh because it's so well executed you don't think of it that number two goodbye lucifer is a multifaceted intense intriguing character a moment of silence everyone oh I know exactly what you're fucking talking about I'm glad the show did not end here but admittedly it is the best ending point the show ever got fuck you know exact I know exactly what you're talking about with lucifer my god what a character what a what a disastrous disastrous interpretation of a character season 11 is not bad because there is some bits between him and god which I thought were really funny and just that kind of that kind of wrap up with that character but everything after season 11 oh I guys I will always use jade uh oh my dog's cough there I will always use jade way's uh interpretation of what happened to lucifer is that he became the herpes of supernatural her comment is dead on and now joe we finally are coming to yours your multi-paragraph thing here uh this joe is one of my uh top tier uh patron supporters and I appreciated his uh both him and shannon miller I've appreciated both of their guys's comments and their uh uh and their assistance and their help as well as every every other patron supporter I have thank you very much there joe let's let's get into your tomb I will preface what you started here I'm hoping this comment isn't going to be unbearably long for your discussion video of the episode but let's get started and you told everyone not to hold back and what they thought so I'm not gonna hold back whatsoever and by god you don't all right here we go supernatural season five episode 22 swan song happens to be my second favorite season finale this is where everyone brings up where the show was planned for being over however during rough times of my child and my teenage years movies and tv shows where the only thing I could really ever call a friend or something that made me feel important or validated for my existence I had zero friends and zero support for my family I apologize and I'm sorry that you went through that so you uh so you can imagine how much my depression really impacted me supernatural became my favorite tv show of all time because Sam and Dean and those close to them represented the family that I always needed and always wanted my own life plus I really love every episode in this season I don't expect anyone to be the same as I do in this regard this the reason I get background to this is because on February 16th 2010 it was announced the supernatural would return for a sixth season that was 86 days I was one of the very few vocal about the consistently received about consistently researching articles about the show from day one on google with any scraps of news about it the show renewal announcement was just five days from the 14th episode of supernatural and the show came back from its hiatus on march 25th it really made watching the five the last five episodes of season five interesting to for me to see the least I almost didn't want to believe that the show was renewing for a sixth season but that was then validated even more when the promo of the season finale simply set in subtext with a trailer the the end is now and underneath gave the time zone of when the episode would premiere on thursday 7 p.m. mountain time it started uh stated season finale I would then study I'll admit actually first off I actually did not read a lot of any of the announcements any kind of the background news stuff about supernatural especially during season five afterwards I changed my mind but I didn't want to spoil anything I really did not want to get this finale spoiled at all because I knew we were in for a treat I would then study and rewatch season five episode 22 over and over and over again trying to look for clues more than the obvious cliffhanger of sam coming back mysteriously from hell at the end of the episode immediately I was not and still not to this day the biggest fan of the carry on my wayward son recap of season five I'll always appreciate season one and tens the most um oh yeah for season two's uh recap like from season one is so well done well so it chooses a great song uh the tone of the episode fading in after the recap beginning with checks narrating of the original story the show the impala definitely gave an end of the era kind of feeling for the show in one way or another uh uh every time the show brought in a different show runner from season six eight and twelve it almost feels like soft reboots to the former season one through five and yet there were also continuations of the judo-christian apocalypse from season five I really love Chuck putting emphasis on how important and how key it is that the Chevy Impala turned out to be the saving grace for Sam and Dean by stopping Michael in Lucifer's agendas it was the one thing Lucifer didn't expect to allow Sam to gain control of his body and defeat Lucifer I love it playing the famous americana theme that Jake Gruska gave or played every time it went back to Chuck finishing his final novel of supernatural and has played with a key emotional moments of the show overall before and after season five these moments that Chuck narrated really cement how Jared and Jensen play convincingly as biological brothers and shows us their true home that didn't need four walls to support them one of the reasons I love season one through five is because how well it handles Sam's character there's no doubt in my mind that Sam Winchester at his best individual was at his best individually for his story because but I admittedly I wasn't satisfied with Dean's arc through season one and five the best way I can explain it without debate are telling others that they were wrong or for how they enjoy the show is that to me it's not Dean's character to let his brother go and let him his brother forever suffer and hell for eternity I understand how people truly love the story about self-sacrifice but to me personally Sam and Dean didn't put family first as Chuck said at the end to me season eight and season tens finale capture the Sam and Dean put it with each other opposed to the greater good and quite opposed to literally everything else regardless of the consequences that would follow now I'll definitely say that season eight definitely had that with when the angels fell that's probably the most heartfelt moment I would almost say of the entirety of everything that happens after season five but the family idea is that they trust each other that they are willing to kind of accept each other in what they want to do they're letting each other they're letting they're not trying to make decisions for the other and then also in terms of Dean's arc I will agree with you kind of on that I find that Dean was my favorite character it's because he's kind of like he's the Han Solo of this show right and he doesn't have as much arc this why I like season three so much because it is about Dean and it also is about Sam going through the emotions of trying to save his brother but ultimately fails but yeah Sam is definitely the main character it's why he was taught build throughout the entire show from this season finale we expertly and beautifully craft how Sam is willing to sacrifice himself after being chess piece to Lucifer's agenda since birth and that Dean accepts Sam's choice and accept that it's beyond his control to save Adam from Michael again this is quite powerful and huge for Dean to do so given how it's been his purpose for Sam's birth to protect him at all costs interesting to point out in season 15 series finale that Sam and Dean have a role reversal that time around Dean was telling Sam they need to accept the natural order and Sam needs to let Dean go a lot of people get upset upset with that because they think Sam is expected to go above and beyond to save Dean's life just like how Dean has done for Sam however to me Dean's death was always expected to me for him to die out hunting since season four where he talked about not wanting to are expecting to grow old I don't think it's fair to really compare season 15's finale with season five season finale to me better comparison would be from season 19 episode 19 of season 15 where the show's creators at the time compared it to being a series a season finale and season five's finale which to me season five wins without a dispute well of course people might say that there's a lot coming from me who has watched the show since it began and loves every episode in the season but let me be clear I don't love every episode in every season with equal value I love them for different reasons and I will not address that in this comment I wouldn't expect anyone to read that analysis in one sitting still cemetery according to kripke was supposed to be a little bit more to have more exposition on why it was so important to the fight was there between Michael Lucifer but we never got that what we do have in fact is that that's the same city and state of the United States of America where Sam and Dean story began it would have been more in depth to me if this or where Sam and Dean once picked a fight there was some time divided for them or something along the lines of where a lot of the family is their family is buried that's kind of the assumption I had but yes I agree that could it would have been cool just to know a little bit more about what was the significance of that cemetery what makes season five finale so interesting is how Lucifer tries pleading with Michael one last time for them not to fight by telling them that God created him for who he is and his choices coming from the devil people think that's quite a ridiculous argument and that's just why season five finale beautifully captures we still have a choice and destiny is just an agenda and that agent angels and demons trying to setting up Sam and Dean and falling for all the same uh the the long for the longest time Sam felt like destiny took hold over him and regardless of the choices the same the same outcome would arrive with him making mistakes and never being able to make amends with them but that one look at Dean where he regains control of his body shows he accepts what Dean has told him in the 100th episode so screw destiny right in the face I say we take the fight to them and do it our way and Sam drags himself Lucifer Michael and Adam into the cage it felt so heart wrenching to watch that live that live for it for it to go to commercial break and when you see Dean's face utter utter brokenness when watching his brother's brother into the cage without any likelihood of them returning to the earth's surface when Castiel did return to life I thought it was he was God all along as well when Dean asked him if he was but I was happy that Castiel told him that he is not however it did throw me off that Castiel went to Bobby's body resurrecting him because by all standards Bobby's soul should have been in hell after he made the deal with Crowley or if Bobby wasn't denying the reaper taking him to to the afterlife to me that always felt like a loophole for the episode oh he's got a good point here it doesn't I don't mean that after scene season six either where we find out that Bobby is trying to convince Crowley to give his soul back with Bobby and Dean departing ways I always felt more I feel more hollow than the whole because again I know the show wasn't ending despite when Cast Dean and Castiel have a conversation in the car about Castiel returning to heaven to try and help his angel siblings it may be curious as to what season six that would be in store for him by the end of the episode with Dean returning to Lisa I felt it was a little forced because Dean and Lisa didn't really come close together to each other after the seasons earlier in season three Dean was just looking for a fling and felt heartbroken that he didn't have a child to carry us on his lineage we do see Dean dreaming about Lisa living a normal life and having a picnic together but even with that scene alone doesn't convince me production team were planning for deans and Lisa to get together and that it was a more of a desperate wish for Dean not to try and go to hell naturally season five uh naturally season five episode 17's last scene was a setup for Dean and Lisa to get together at the end of the season but I feel like it well that was more of a shoe horned in and would have loved to have that plot have a little bit more deeper exposition of them getting in a relationship rather than Dean giving a confession of where his true happiness lies with her and Ben you would also almost think that his half his true happiness also lies with being a brother to Sam then when Sam returning unexpectedly for season five cliffhanger I remember studying it trying to determine whether it was Lucifer or Sam and Jared Padalecki honestly perfectly nailed just how mysterious it was and I couldn't come to an honest conclusion at the time it's an incredible season finale from the way that the cinematography is done the editing the action set pieces the humor and Sam and Dean at one of the darkest times in the show was delivered almost perfectly for me swan song may be the perfect finale of what a lot of a fans have wanted in the seasons would follow would be considered fan fiction to them but for me it was just a close it was just the close of one story done beautifully for Sam's character and I was eager to see what more what would what more what was more in store for supernatural and there we go those are your guys's comments about this season finale thank you guys for giving your thoughts this is right now I'm running at 50 minutes so that's gonna be fun to edit but anyways guys thank you so much for commenting and like and watching the video watching the reviews watching all of my reviews previous and yes I will be going on to season six I'm probably gonna hold off until January but I still got a season five review and the best and worst coming up and then maybe I talk about what I feel I'm going into with season six and beyond but either way thank you guys so much for watching these videos 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