 Daily Tech News show is made possible by its listeners thanks to all of you including Pat, Degrache, Daniels, and Irwin Sturr. Coming up on DTNS, it's Google I.O. and we have all the expected announcements and a few unexpected ones too, plus a way to buy shoes online that fit. This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, May 11th, 2022 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. In Salt Lake City, I'm Scott Johnson. I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. And joining us, tech journalist Nicole Lee is with us. Welcome back to the show, Nicole. Hello. Happy to be here on this illustrious Google list of days. Is that what the I in Google I.O. stands for? Illustrious. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's the O for then? Well, I, ostentatious? Yeah, illustrious ostentation. I don't know. We'll tell you what all those illustrious ostentatious announcements are in a minute, but let's start with a few tech things you should know. Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has an excellent track record on this sort of stuff, says that his sources say that Apple were replaced its lightning port with USB-C on phones starting in 2023. So it wouldn't be the next phone, because that would be later this year, but the phone after that. Kuo indicated last year that Apple was not considering USB-C for iPhone. The existing lightning connector was introduced back in 2012, and Apple already supports USB-C on its most recent iPad. Please let this be true. Intel announced its 12th gen Alder Lake HX series CPUs, a mobile version of the Alder Lake S desktop CPUs, offering up to 16 cores on the Core 9 i9-12900HX, evenly split between performance and efficiency. It uses 50 watts of power, allows for overclocking, supports PCI-E 5.0, and to make room for the desktop size die, it only offers Z graphics with 32 GPU cores compared to 96 on Alder Lake H CPUs. And it also does not include an integrated Thunderbolt 4 connector controller. Nikkei Asia's sources say that the chip maker TSMC warned clients that it plans to raise prices for the second time in less than a year. Not a lot of people would be happy about that if they're doing business with TSMC. The single digit percentage hike would be effective at the start of 2023. TSMC cited inflation concerns, rising costs, and expansion plans for the increase. The European Commission unveiled a plan that would require tech companies in Europe to scan platforms and products for child sex abuse material or CSAM, while many platforms already do scan for hashed versions of known CSAM. This new plan would let EU countries require tech companies to seek out and report new CSAMs, not just passively scan them. The plan requires approval of EU Member States and the European Parliament, so it might be a while until the final version of the plan becomes effective. Twitter started rolling out a new copy paste and duplicate content policy to combat spam. Twitter will now treat identical or near identical content as well as copy pasted tweets that disrupt the experience of others as a policy violation, meaning that it won't be recommended or show in search or trending topics. These tweets won't lead to content removals or account suspensions, just won't surface as often. Now, we had Dave Broadbeck on recently talking about the idea of using an algorithm to gauge emotions. In that case, it was in order to help teachers identify students that might need a little extra help, might need to look a little confused. But Protocol reported in April on Zoom's Emotion AI being used for salespeople to gauge customer interest in their pitch. You know, am I losing them? The Emotion AI will tell me. Wednesday, 25 organizations including the ACLU Electronic Privacy Information Center and Fight for the Future sent a letter asking Zoom to end its plans to incorporate Emotion AI in its software. How you can detect what an emotion is, is not settled science. It makes it difficult, since we don't have settled science on that, to be sure that you're training your algorithm accurately. And while it may be useful as an aid, as in the teaching example, the AI Now Institute says it should not be used in important decisions like hiring or grading students. And I guess these organizations think sales is an important part of that too. So, you're not going to get it in Zoom if they have their way. We'll see what Zoom says about it. Alright, let's talk about buying shoes. Let's do it. So buying clothing online in general, whether it's shoes or shirts or pants or whatever, it's taking a guess at the size that you think you might want. And then maybe making a return to get the right one because it wasn't the size that you actually wanted because you didn't try it on in a department store type thing. Tapos famously started making returns for shoes, pretty simple to encourage people to buy shoes from them because shoes have a 57% return rate. That's according to a study by Body Labs. Now increasingly, companies are using some kind of algorithm, or at least trying to, and scanning you to help you pick the right size to make it as frictionless as possible. A South Korean company called Perfit with 2Ts is one of the latest companies. Here's how this system works. Sends you a paper kit with calibrations printed on that paper. You put your feet on the paper, take a picture in the Perfit app. That gets at least somewhat of an accurate length with the ball of your foot, height of the top of your foot. If you have an arch type thing, Perfit has trained an algorithm on 140,000 shoe sizes across 20,000 shoes, such as New Balance and Adidas. I mean, big brands, it can take your picture and match it to a proper fitting shoe, and it claims 92% success rate in general. Yeah, 90.2% of the people who used it were satisfied that they got the right fit. So that's pretty good. I did not know the term bracketing until I read this Tech in Asia story. I knew the practice, which is you buy three pairs of shoes at different sizes so that you're sure you get at least one that fits, and then you send the other two back. You wouldn't have to bracket anymore if Perfit ends up working. And I know this isn't the first company to try this, but I find all of these fascinating. It's that we haven't yet cracked the code on being able to use technology to accurately buy clothes that fit. Not just online, but even in the store where it could be like, oh, you need this size, because why are sizes all different? You go into different stores and the small means something different in Nordstrom than it does in Bloomingdale's, etc. Often the same rack has the same problem. I have this issue with shoes and I've had to quote unquote bracket before, although I didn't know it had a name. But I've had to when I bought shoes online, a certain kind of running shoe fits me and I never know if it's going to unless I try it. So I'll order two, three pair and sure enough, one of them is the right one and the other two that I thought might have been the right ones are not the right one. So people like me are probably going to use this and that stuff hopefully will get better and better because there's still a few things about our internet shopping life that are hindered a bit by the old ways of sit down and put a thing on your foot and have a guy make sure it's right and go back and pull it off a shelf and that's not here. So seeing them come up with ways to sort of creatively handle this problem is pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, even I'm a pretty small person and I have small feet and shoes in particular have always been difficult for me to buy online because you know, I'm like, I know I'm a six, but I might be a 5.5 or even maybe a 6.5. It just, you know, it just depends. And, you know, all the sizing charts that all of the companies have on their websites, you know, I always look at them and it kind of always says the same thing. Like, you know, if you're, you know, if you're this size in a shirt, you probably would be this size in a pant type thing. And it's somewhat helpful, but it is, speaking of not having a perfect science, it's definitely not that. This is, you know, it's getting us closer and closer to getting what you want without having to then return the things that you bought that you didn't end up wanting, which is tedious. I think that's also the case of like, if you have one foot, slightly smaller than the other. And you never need to in between sizes. I think there's a company called Adams where they, they sell like quarter size shoes to sort of like you can buy like specifically for your left foot versus your right. Oh, that's great. Yeah. But again, like, you know, you have to kind of like do the bracketing thing to make sure it fits. Because even, even, even this company that this cater to that the different, the quarter size shoe, they encourage bracketing. So even, you know, I want this technology in the shoe store. I'm going to go buy some running shoes. I always go into REI and I buy them, you know, and, and I always have to wait when they do bracketing. I didn't know what it was called, but they bring me three different pairs and I have to try on usually at least two, if not all three. In store, the experience specifically with shoes has always been that way, you know, where you kind of go like, oh, okay, no, this one's actually better. Also, we can, we have a standard way of measuring. We have two standard ways of the Imperial and the metric system, but we, there are standards. Why can't the size fit the standards? Right, because there's U.S. size, U.K. size. That my foot is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, do you want us to not talk about shoes so much? Do you want us to talk about shoes more? Let us know. One way to let us know is our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. Google I.O. kicked off with people in the crowd for the first time in a few years. And let's get right to what they talked about because they talked about a lot. It was a two hour announcement. We'll start with the Pixel 6a. It's a 6.1 inch phone with a dual rear camera. Basically, it's the Pixel 6, but a little smaller and a 12 megapixel main and ultra wide camera, not the big 51. But it's got the Titan M2. It's got a millimeter wave 5G modem. It's got the Tensor Sock, the exact same one that's in the 6. The camera can even do a lot of the things the 6 can. Magic eraser, night sight, real tone. That's all because it's done on the Tensor Sock. It has live translate, an under-display fingerprint sensor, five years of security updates. Not full updates, but security updates, which are the more important of the two if you had to choose. And you can pre-order it starting July 21st in stores July 28th for $449. Nicole, are you excited? I mean, this is the mid-range line of the Pixel phones, right? So it's good because compared to previous iterations of Google's mid-range line, this is a much more powerful version. So it brings up the affordable line, the sort of the A line of phones, almost to par with the more expensive flagship style phones. So Google Tensor chip on a mid-range phone for only, I think, $470 or something like that. That's a really good deal. That's actually a very good deal. Yeah, the pricing seems really good. I always have these Android friends that are so stoked for new Pixel announcements and they're always telling me, Scott, this is your chance, this is the time to hop in because the Pixel phones are the best phones on the planet and here are all the reasons why. I have to admit today's presentation about the 6A was a good one for me. But then when you do a 7 preview, I go, oh, well, then we're going to call me when the 7's out. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's a dangerous thing to do in this presentation. That was a weird thing to do. First of all, the Pixel 6A can be as good as the Pixel 6 because frankly, the Pixel 6 wasn't as big of an advance over the 5. So, you know, that's a little easier to do. But then you immediately tell us like, oh, by the way, this fall, don't buy the 6 or the 6A. We've got the 7 coming. Why didn't they call the 7A and say 7A first and then the flagship 7 next. No, because the 7A comes out later. They always put out the number. That's the next. It just seems backwards. No, no. That's the normal pattern. You do the main one and then the A. The A is like the subbrand. Well, yeah. But then all of you are saying, well, who wants the 6A when all we want is the 7. Yeah. Why announce another one is the thing. I think they're trying to get ahead of the rumors by showing it to us before it leaks on Android authority or somewhere. But yeah, it was an odd choice. On the other hand, I guess for people who are like, OK, well, I know the Pixel 7 is coming, but that 6A is a great price. I'll just go with it now because I know the 7 will be a lot more expensive, which it will. Yeah. And to Sarah's point, I think the idea that, you know, if you come out with a phone and say, here's our flagship phone, it's got all the huge features and here's the slightly lesser one that's going to cost you less money. Those usually have the same number. And had this been, here's our 6A or here's our 7 and also here's our 7A. That would have been a whole different feeling for me because I would have said, oh, OK, well, now I have a choice. Yeah. Instead of saying, oh, well, I'm just going to buy a phone that's going to seem sort of old and not that cool in a short amount of time. We all know there's a Pixel 7 coming this autumn, even if they It's not like a shock that they're going to come out with a new phone. That's a really good point. I think we're mostly just like, man, what's with marketing and tech companies these days? Yeah. Well, speaking of marketing, if you're interested in a new set of earbuds, we've got the Pixel Buds Pro with active noise cancellation. This is the first in Pixel Buds. So that's going to make some people happy. Also has new 6-core audio chip with neural processing engine inside. And that helps compensate for audio leakage around SEAL. So I don't know if you're around a bunch of people, you're not necessarily going to be leaking your audio out to everybody around you. There's also a transparency mode. There are beam framing noise suppression mics. 11 hours listening or seven hours with ANC. So pretty good specs there. Yeah. Multi-point connectivity, spatial audio coming later this year in an update says Google. Find my device, confine to each earbud if you happen to lose one in your couch, which that would be me. And we will have four colors pre-order available on July 21 in-store on July 28th online for $299. I want a pair of these. It's weird that I really like their earbuds in this presentation. Why is it weird? I don't know. I guess I was going in thinking everybody wants to do earbuds right now. Every major company, Samsung, Apple, everybody's got their own version of this. And they do these incremental changes or tweaks to them to make them more attractive to buyers. And so I'm kind of done with all that stuff. I'm just sort of like whatever. Let me know when a major innovation happens. I really like how these look. That was going to say these are not a major innovation. They're just on par with what? Yeah. They're just on par with all the rest. They just look cool and they get a little G in them and the colors are nice. I don't know. I'm just sort of blown away by them for no reason. Well, if you're interested in the Pixel Lion, a Scott. We also have the Pixel Watch. It has a circular design. Tap to pay with Google Wallet. Also voice activation, kind of standard stuff for smart watches, but this is new. Also Fitbit integration. I was very curious about this. How that was going to work, especially because you can still buy standalone Fitbit smart watches, which I have used in the past four years. So that has heart rate, sleep tracking, workout stats. That's all going to be part of the Pixel Watch as well. That's coming this autumn along with the Pixel 7. So you can't buy it now, but you can buy it soon. This advance announcement made more sense to me, which is like, hey, you all have been hearing about the Pixel Watch. Here's what it looks like. More details come in this fall. Get excited. Yeah. I think out of all the announcements today, this is probably one of them my top, like the things I was excited about because I was like, oh, finally Google something, doing something with Fitbit. Finally, they're finally doing something with this IP that they bought like, you know, years ago. 2019. And integrating it. It looks good. It looks good. The design looks good. Like a nice round design and beautiful looking watch. Yeah. And beautiful looking. And you know, if anything is my primary way from my Apple Watch, this could be it. Right? Yeah. Like sort of been waiting for this, right? Waiting for, I always like the round design. And every time they show an Android based device that was round, I mean, like, no, that's the direction I would like everybody to go, including Apple. And they never seem to. So the fact that this is, you know, and now it's got the pixel name. I don't know, man. I think maybe there's some, just finally some little watch war going to happen. And I'm excited. The only thing I don't like about the watch is they're tied to the phones, right? Yeah. They kind of work with the opposite phone, but you can't use an Apple Watch easily with Android. You can't easily use Wear with iOS. I'd like to have the freedom to mix and match. Yeah. Yeah. Same. Before we get into some Android news, the pixel tablet with a tensor chip is coming in 2023. That was, they didn't spend a whole lot of time in that. They're like, here's the tablet. Here's a picture of a thing that looks like a tablet. Like, yeah, that sure does. Right. Like, okay, you're working on tablets. Good. And the company also announced. I can't wait to say it would fold or do something, but yeah, it's just the nice looking tablets. Some nice tablets. Google also announced a new Google store is coming to Williamsburg, New York. Yes. That's in Brooklyn. If you're not familiar. So Google is clearly taking over the five boroughs. The land of hipster strollers. All right. Android 13. Let's get to the meat of this announcement. This was the thing that most people knew was coming and were waiting for. Not a ton of surprising things here. A new music player that themes itself to what you're playing. That's kind of nifty. The fact that you can set languages per app. So that if you speak multiple languages and you, maybe you social network in Spanish, but you message in English or vice versa. You could, you can do that. RCS is getting into an encryption for group chats later this year through Android 13. The triumphant return once again of Google wallet. I think this is the third iteration of Google wallet. But this one. We got a lot of applause. Yeah. They were announcing it for the first time. Yeah. Finally, you're doing it right. Student IDs. Walt Disney World passes everything on device. Nothing shared with Google digital driver's license support was a big applause line as well. That will work with NFC or QR codes. You do not need to hand over your phone to use it. The Android earthquake alert system uses your accelerometer. That's expanding its usage. And the Android 13 beta is out now. So if you're, if you're a developer, you can, you can get in there and start playing around with it. Also, where OS is getting emergency SOS. So if you fall, it can automatically send an emergency for you. Android 12 L, which is the laptop version is got bigger elements now, side-by-side apps and drag and drop. 20 Google apps, more than 28 Google apps getting tablet updates. Lots of side-by-side windowing. So it seemed like this is also going to be useful for foldables, which they do provide this for Samsung to use for their foldables, but maybe Google's doing their own. And casting coming to Chromebooks and Android Auto. This fall, phone hub will extend your apps to Chromebook. So you could do a thing like copy on your Android phone, paste it on a tablet. FastPair already works with phone and laptop and TV. It's coming to headphones and other devices. And of course they tease matter coming later this autumn. Nest hardware will of course be matter compliant, which makes it work with a lot of stuff that will also be in the matter ecosystem. Pretty cool. You were talking earlier about walking around with a, with a Nest, not tablet, but a Nest device and having a little more mobility with your, you know, we control with our phones and our tablets and stuff, but I don't know. I'd like the idea of Nest being a little more of its own thing. And let me just like go in the basement with it and look at the, look at my weird heater while I'm looking at my screen going, okay, what's going on down here and being a little more diagnostic. Yeah. Nest Hub Max. We'll get to some of the Google Assistant related to that. But yeah, there was some, there's some thinking that they might have introduced a new Nest Hub with a detachable tablet. They didn't do that. So we didn't see that. It does look a lot like a Nest user interface though. Yeah. Very much like that. The tablet you are. Yeah. I'll be honest. The Android operating system announcements work fine. Yeah. I, you know, I'm not like jumping up and down, but I'm not disappointed. It's like good, good solid updates there. Yeah. And to their credit, everybody who does updates like this on their OS is, this is all very incremental these days. No one's, no one's blown anyone socks off with OS updates. It feels like so. It's all good. Well, when it comes to Google, people often think about privacy. How much, how much is it collecting from me? Yeah. So, you know, there's a new feature called my ad center can help you at least on some level control the ads that you see. So if you say, I'm interested in one or, or I'm interested in these categories of ads and not these categories of ads, you have a little bit more leeway there or brand search results with your phone number, your home address or email address can be removed from Google search. Now this is not something that's happening today. The company says it's happening in the coming months, but I know some people will be happy about that to just have a little bit more control over when you get searched for, whether you're a person or a brand. Here's what other people are going to see. We also get some expanded context on websites in the Google apps. This is a brilliant piece of jiu-jitsu. We would like you to tell us how to target you better. So tell us which categories you would like more or fewer ads for. Because you're in control. Because you're in control, but you can't eliminate a category just more or fewer. And brands, brands that we work with anyway, not all brands, but brands that we have a contract with. I mean, I'm not saying these things are bad, but just, you know, let's be honest about what's going on here. Keep the context, you know, top of mind. Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate that they, that they, this is the thing that annoyed me the most because I kind of just wish they were a little bit more, just open about it. We know what you do Google and we know that this is a part of what you do to make money. And so, okay, so embrace it and then tell us how you're going to make it maybe easier for us to control more of that. And, you know, don't dance around it. Just, you are who you are. And it's fine. But it is, it is improving your ad experience. It's not really giving you control. No, not at all. No. Yeah. That's the whole idea though. The idea of improving your ad experience is also just such a weird term. Yeah. Because some people know ads is what they want. I do like the idea of saying, hey, I'm getting ads for, I don't know, blouses that I would never buy. Can I, can I get fewer of those? That would be nice. And that makes sense. That's a real thing that has happened to me where I'm like, why am I saying this? I think it's like, I bought a Mother's Day gift and then it was like, oh, you are. For the next five years, like do you want more blouses? Now the security side of this is always really good at Google. I am a big fan of their security. Fishing protection is going to get built into dock sheets and slides. So if you get some links sneaked into a dock or maybe an iffy dock that you opened up by mistake and you try to click on something, it'll be able to tell you like this link doesn't look good. We're going to keep you away from it. Chrome and Android are getting virtual credit cards. That means you can pay with a distinct virtual card number instead of your actual card number, like a one-time use card number. That'll work across Visa, American Express Capital One and MasterCard come in this summer. And they outlined a new system called protected computing where they commit to collect less personal data, delete more of it, de-identify the data they do have by either blurring things or adding noise to the data, restrict access through encryption and secure enclaves. Still while being able to do things like predictive text, predictive wake of your phone, detect compromised passwords without knowing your password, just by keeping your data on device and only treating the data it needs for the purpose it's doing and then forgetting about it, not having to store stuff. Yeah, it seems good. It seems like, I don't know, I used, I was surprised the other day how much I use Google for security stuff because in my head I'm like, well, I'm just using whatever my phone does. I'm usually on an iPhone, but I use so much Google security for what I do, including two-factor authentication kind of across the board. I use their app for everything. So anytime they're updating that stuff, I'm happy to. And they did talk about the Fido thing, where you'll be able to just tap on your phone to log in. That's coming to Apple and Microsoft stuff as well. Right. I was pretty excited about Google Assistant updates and then S-Tub Max specifically, the idea that you can look at it and talk to it. Now, in the demo, it was clear that you have to be pretty close to the device, right? I mean, it can't just like track your eye movements from, you know, across the house type thing. It felt like face unlock where you had to kind of look at it and be like, okay. Yeah. But at the same time, I mean, I'm in the Amazon ecosystem, you know, sort of smart home, all the things. I do a lot of talking to my devices, and it isn't very natural. I got used to it because that's the only option that I've had. But being able to use eye contact to trigger something instead of using a wake word, and that's on device, by the way. So for anybody who's like, ooh, you know, I don't want them looking at my eyes and uploading my eyes, you know, to the cloud. It's actually, you know, you've got a variety of quick phrases that can help you trigger alarms or, you know, lights. Yeah, without having to use the wake word. It just knows like, oh, if you're saying turn off the lights, then that must mean you want that off. Exactly. Google also, you know, they leaned into natural language processing improvements that would handle things like me saying, Tom, can you turn on the lights type thing? You as a human know what I mean. I would say spit it out, Sarah, whereas the assistant will politely wait for you to finish your sentence. Well, yeah, I mean, in the past, you'd be like, I can't say it that way because I'm not gonna work. So Google is saying we're trying to make it easier for you to just be a human that is talking to another human, even though you're talking to a machine. This happens all the time with us. Like whenever we're asking the Google assistant to like, hey, what's the score for the San Francisco diet? And then it just messes up. It doesn't know what to do. Like with what? Yeah, it usually plays music. Or something for me sometimes. I think I'm asking for sounds. That is it. That's an area I really hope all these assistants continue to innovate in because, you know, we want to get to the point where it's very Star Trek computer relationship. We just say what we want to say in the way we say it with whatever stammer stutter or in between words or whatever forgetfulness and have these things smart enough to even maybe help us with what we forgot. Oh, do you mean the, you know, the Giants, San Francisco Giants? Is that who you mean? Yes, that's what I meant. Okay, cool. Yeah, I think it's this. Like we'll get there. I really feel like we will. But yeah, and we are. I mean, this is incremental, but yeah, it gives me hope. Yeah, look and talk as clunky as it is now, we'll get better. And if it can be really good at knowing when you're looking at it to talk, that's that's a heck of an improvement. That gets it close to ambient computing where it just knows where it can interpret the. And it can, it can also do follow-up. So like, oh, can you tell me more about this first result versus the second result or whatever it is? So now, of course, Google search always gets a little bit of time at Google IO. The new phrase for Google search is any way and anywhere. Search reimagined. They expanded multi-search. Multi-search is that thing where you can do a photo and a question about it. Like, do you have this in blue? They're going to add near me. So you show a photo. They use Japchae as the example. Japchae near me and it'll show you restaurants that have Japchae. Scene exploration is a thing coming that can view a number of objects. They used a grocery store counter full of chocolate bars and you could say find all the dark chocolate without nuts that are highly rated and it would be able to use image recognition to not only know which chocolate bars are which but then use its search database to figure out which ones fit your criteria. And they also partnered with Dr. Ellis Monk on the Monk skin tone scale. This is something that Dr. Monk developed. They are going to adapt to use in their products like Realtone, the filter for photos. But they're also going to use it in image search and open source it. So if you would like to use this scale which they feel is more accurate for skin tones you can put it in your product. Just go to skintone.google. Well, as far as augmented reality Google teased glasses that can show real-time translation ASL as well. That's American Sign Language. Not come in any time soon at least not on the immediate roadmap but still cool nonetheless. Is this, I mean we essentially know this this is Google Glass, you know the eventual outcome of that perhaps. Maybe this is finally the product. Enterprise Google Glass is the eventual outcome of Google Glass but this is certainly an offshoot of it, right? Sure, sure. Yeah, the thing we all saw everybody wearing and that'd be great to have all this heads-up display information and we look a little goofy in public but boy, we'll get used to it. We were all excited to talk about how we were going to get used to these glasses. I feel like now's the time. So I'm actually really excited about this. Google Glass was ahead of its time. We talk about technology where people are like I don't know are we ready for this and I feel like Google Glass was a good example of that but lots of other companies are working on AR glasses. Google certainly would like to have a consumer product that makes more sense. I think the power and the advantage that this particular version has at least from what it looks like on the brief demo. One, two things. One, it looks like regular glasses, right? Nothing crazy or cookie about it is regular pair of glasses. Number two is very important. It doesn't seem to have a camera and the no camera thing I think is huge because that was one of the biggest complaints about Google Glass. I think similar glasses of the similar style was that the whole camera thing, the privacy, you know, invasion, that kind of thing. If it doesn't have a camera that instantly removes that concern, right? I mean, there's also the microphone thing which I understand that also there's also concern but the main concern that most people have is that oh, this camera, I don't know if it's on but if there's no camera that instantly makes it way more attractive I think for people like me who really just wants a normal pair of glasses that doesn't look like you're recording everything and the fact that it shows the translation and the real-time translation, I mean, that's great. Yeah, I want to see how it really works versus this sort of stylized image. It seemed like the people were actually using it unless they were actors but I want to see how it looks in the glasses itself because they were just showing it superimposed outside the glasses. It's probably like a small window, I bet. I bet it's like a small window. And this is definitely, this is their concept. They always have one concept thing. Google Duplex was the famous one years ago. So this is the one this year. I hope we get to see it in a couple of years. Anything else on this before we wrap this up that you liked? There was stuff about maps and Translate and YouTube and Workspace and anything else anybody wanted to mention? Nicole, we'll start with you. I really like the AI test kitchen. So that's the one where you can say I'm at the deepest part of the ocean and as a response to the app's prompt of Imagine If. And then the app will spit out a short paragraph of describing the user in the submarine in the Marina's trench or something. So I like the idea of breaking down a complex goal or topic with this AI test app. And I think it's the whole idea of trying to make the whole Google system a lot more intelligent by using this test app. Interesting. Well, there's lots of ethical problems. We talked about the fact that even though oftentimes facial recognition or bias in data sets gets the most attention, there's lots of ethical issues with AI. And one good way to catch them is to use better data sets. And I know and hope that Google continues to do that. But this is another way to catch stuff is to put it in front of people. I think that's smart. Sarah Scott, you guys have anything else? Well, for me, I... Besides the fact that it was a very long event. It was a pretty long event. They ended right on time, though. I was shocked. I thought they were going to go three hours at one point. I felt like they weren't done when they finished. But for me, they didn't bring it up. But I would have loved some discussion about creators and that new tablet. You know, I realize this is kind of a me thing. But the iPad Pro and things like Procreate and Photoshop products and the pencil have become this de facto new standard for a lot of digital artists, myself included. And I really would have liked to have heard at least a nod in that direction to say, we're working with third parties. Or we have a pen in the works or something about how perhaps the Pixel tablet might be... You know, might chip a little cheese off of the Apple's block a little bit because right now they kind of own that space. And I would love to have heard something about that. So it's not really something I heard him say. Maybe he still will. They spent so little time on that tablet. You're right. It's way early in that process. It looked nice. I really liked the Pixel hardware. So it got me kind of excited. But, you know, time will tell on that. Well, thanks to both Scott Johnson and Nicole Lee for being with us on a fun announcement day. Gotta love demo days. Scott, we'll start with you. Where can folks keep up with your work? Well, you heard me mention video games here and there or maybe we didn't. But like today, we didn't hear about Stadia at all. If you want to hear about why I think we didn't hear about Stadia and a whole bunch of other big video game industry news type stuff, check out the podcast Core. It airs on Thursday nights live. And of course, to the podcast right after that, wherever you get your shows, just look for Core. It's core gaming for core gamers. And we have a really good time on there. I think you might enjoy it if you're into gaming at all. So once again, that is frogpants.com slash core or wherever you get your shows. And Nicole Lee, so good to have you back on the show. Let folks know where you're hanging out these days, where they can keep up with your work. Yes. So for right now, you can just go to Twitter, twitter.com slash Nicole. I'm looking for work. So, you know, if you have, if you hear of any openings for a good, knowledgeable, experienced. Which you very much are. Have them reach out. So thank you. That would be very helpful for me. Oh, all right. Well, good. It's so good to have you both on the show. Couldn't have done it without you. Also, we want to thank two new bosses. We got LaBelle V and we have Eric. They both just started backing us on Patreon. Thanks LaBelle V. And thank you Eric. Go ahead. Also known as Fatima. Okay. There's a longer version of the show called Good Day Internet that rolls right after we wrap this show. That's available at patreon.com slash D T N S. Just a reminder, we are live. If you can join us, please do. Monday through Friday at four p.m. Eastern, twenty hundred UTC. Find out more at dailytechnewshow.com slash live. And we're back doing it all again. Cause we do it every Thursday, but just from Robert Young. Talk to you then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com.