 the border you get the slaughter yeah that was a good one rags i agree i give that all of the stars voice matter banana yes this is a really real audio software oh molly you need to use voice matter banana banana okay i don't know what any of that means i mean either i was i was trying to decipher it so you can use a microphone use a banana voice matter banana you can do virtual channels with that and split the audio output i just beat the capra demon and i think i'm now hooked on dark souls nice you beat one of the most annoying bosses in the game so yeah lots of look forward to capra demon would make rags say that all of dark souls is a disaster and should never be played by anybody i don't play games to be frustrated by bullshit um because you're bad dab not all of dark souls is simply that capra demon however is quite the highlight of that having a new year hail the chat and hail zack snider no yeah happy new year uh pretty sure i've read about them having spells that makes no people in a certain area just not notice weird stuff from the show that works oh it's like uh transformers like oh that was all covered up that sounds like that sounds like how religions get started just some wizard fucking around with spell with like jesus with a wizard clearly duh that's so much more interesting you go back and time you find out he is actually just an alien and he came from you know just a platter where he could walk on surfaces that were you know less dense than he stuff like that i don't know i i want to find we need the truth give me those violence boy all right i am now live too hello why no go away i'm metal i beat dark souls one i accidentally got the dark ending nice good job good job idiot also yeah i guess you brought it up already but milk toast is an option you're right your cool metal come to hogwarts tomorrow but yeah milk toast is one of the um starting thingies yeah that's uh that's neat i almost feel like we should have to pick that one we're obligated yeah don't worry people it'll come back do you you play yours through the the software right uh you mean my capture yeah it's the uh hd called justism and i just do the uh display capture my setup is what's called next generation where uh i can see it on like directly and then it's also going through obs wow yes next generation i think i had a i think i had a setup like this in unik actually when i was still living there because i was able to hook up my playstation to the tv i had there what do you i need one of you write my character name uh come born as a character name no not make one rate it oh let me be up so i can see it uh here we go rentford newpene i like it it sounds it sounds just weird enough but just real enough it's that perfect area of like yeah rentford newpene that could that could be a real name it's not so outlandish rentford is like that's that's kind of a name and for yeah it's an odd one but i believe it i accept this as fact and then in comes newpene and you're like hmm well the last name so maybe it's like a good old rentford ew the beginning of the transfusion also i see you ran off without me metal wow yeah fuck you i would say i'm offended but really could you offend anybody i don't think so i don't think i can so watching because apart from the thursday stream that just came out why didn't one of them just turn the mother box is invisible in justice lake oh yeah um she didn't know how to do it of that no wait she didn't know how to do it she didn't she didn't conveniently remember that she didn't know how to do it but could learn how to do it 84 is gonna be so much fun going through the other ensemble movies or ranks like why ain't she doing the thing did you kill the wolf in the opening mel oh no i just ran wow that's the opening achievement challenge loose without without doing it meli that means you're not cool i did it like too fast i hope i got the correct question too fast i mean it doesn't matter we're just testing the thing right now sake yeah this isn't the real race guys jeez calm down i'm winning in which case it is real bring it to me like you guys did it without me and then we're gonna feel like yeah uh it's a dazzler rompeng sort of 15 month resoup that's a lot of months we're personal 15 15 oh i don't think yeah mel who's dreaming for 15 months yet you might have been uh yeah but i i wasn't be able to be sub two for 15 months how long we've been streaming it was before i started right or was it i can't remember what no when did you start streaming was it 2014 or 15 uh should i check that not too long ago but now i forgot you're full yeah uh i got a modern molars chat i'll use your audio metal and that's all right james there's a fucking molars stream link youtube suck my balls didn't kill the werewolf cuck oh man listen it's better if they're at your chance they don't see my horrible gameplay yeah well at least i have 420s soul oh it's blood and i will say i do notice the fps a lot when i'm playing this game it is not fun you know when she just gets used to it but then you go back to a 60 fps game it's like man this is smooth you get used to it is a very generous way to put it i would say i don't tolerate it even i don't even find myself taller i'm always angry at it oh it gets worse when we get to the bosses loopy bosses yeah well i mean even the first boss is kind of loopy i would say oh yeah the should Celtic Celtic beast what's his name fuck jumbo boost yeah jumbo beats not a real race fucking fakers all right i remember all right oh my god i'm ready to go kill my first beast by the way did you did you did you use lone survivor as well what's a 14 health uh i can't remember what i did it might have been milk toast chat wait actually i can check my stats right you should be what are your stocks should have been that should have been your character named far quad von milk toast remind me and i'll do it oh no i think i think that might be too long i'm not sure they have a limit what about sir god free sir god free von gobble cock i feel like that was probably too long yeah didn't finish puddle to shake my head one day i shall return to such things jumbo all right what is oh i think it was sorry of your beginnings yeah i told that like two streams ago go watch that i don't want to tell it again also as we progress i'm going to try and do the the remaining of the efab 103 super chats which i'll spread over three different videos one is out this one is being recorded and the last one is the meme fap which is going out soon tm so yeah um 103 was the return of williams and a triple efab hot take with theo fringy metal and jay that was the title so hey look if they're directed at you metal that's going to be great because you're here hello and in the meantime you'll see me playing bluish blurm in prep for playing this possibly tomorrow is going to be the last good chance of you doing it right now well before the next weekend at least before then wait i thought you said you'll go back to work on tuesday well yeah i mean next the next weekend like after that week i can do i'm so confused please say that again wait before i go to work tomorrow isn't the only real opportunity you're correct right i can do the next weekend yes that'll be the plan for part two of the stream i suppose it would have been tonight guys but fringy betrayed us was he supposed to be here um i spoke last time i spoke to him i said we might do it today i just need to speak to mel because mel was asleep and he was like cool and i was like i'll let you know so there's an implied statement in there that he would probably want to be available at this time yeah i could see that but he could also have something come up like could have been hit by a car you know well that's not really an excuse let's be honest something could have come up like him over the windshield of the car that hit him yep that's the one yeah so to carry these on donnie drumfeeved bind christmas please donate i think that's in reference to moviebox saying that he still is halloween we are your work now mootl i wish oh my god oh that goes all the way around that's cheating ah you're all right all right chungus pizza you kind of pizza you're streaming that's my uh that's the timer on my freezer i have a beer in there and it is uh it is ready about that is for me to rank with dude that's big smart yeah gotcha you're a big smart guy no he's dead hey mootler say hi to mootl for me well then follow through i'm right jay is trying to bribe efap audio archive to turn the tizm against you have you been to the comment section i i get no credit for the hilarious things that they mentioned but they'll but a 10 hour stream can go by and one little thing that they didn't like like oh i can't believe you said this one thing in this growing comment at one time and they was crazy right uh reddit is usually a cesspit of people who are like armchair psychology that's what i usually find is the most common annoyance there but recently right we found different comments on that newest stream that frustrated the both of us i went to the the subreddit post for the batman and robin one one of the one of the top discussions was how well you did pun wise appreciating oh wow what wow i got a compliment you did how incredible don't get used to it oh i won't no i don't want to no no no i'm getting rectosaurus rags here rectosaurus right i like it rectum soreth what rectum oh my god look at me picking up molotovs i'm like a real hunter molotovs oh yeah fuck yeah uh can you ask name your character in honor of sick dig suckle the executive producer of wonder woman 84 dig suck oh yeah yeah dig suck yeah we we picked that one up yeah we noticed dig suckle in the credits thank you or subs do you need to not cheat on us with other jobs oh that's that's quite a lot cheat on us with other jobs there's no way that wonder woman gives one only gives what low jobs why the fuck away huh i think amazon like no there's no i can't i cannot picture her ever doing that there's no way she'd be too naive and stupid to understand it anyway mechanics yeah but like i don't think any of the yeah well maybe some of them but like wonder woman no no well i didn't plan on drinking at all today i was i was just thinking like oh i can read out the next thing once i just paused like normal games it's like no pausing for you i don't want to be anywhere near galgadot eat well i don't know her being near her to her naked in the bedroom is probably like the ideal time to be with her actually but i'm not gonna ask her to role play because she's such a shitty act you know well where you can you can ask her to role play as wonder woman from wonder woman the movie just like her her cold dead stare and her lifeless lack of emotions you just like her are you gonna come so hard i was murdered by the townspeople feels bad man ha you lose well you know it's good it's good learning experience because that's the hero's journey you have to go through struggle i got hit with a brick so once you go through enough struggle you'll get really good i'll be like Luke Skywalker taking down armies of robots miss me idiot the next one says how this trumped the trump stole halloween i would watch that movie it'd be great halloween let's picture him tiptoeing around with a big sack of movie bobs experiences that he stole all of them oh my goodness i watched an atl video about as soon as rex said something bad about women i watched twice yeah boy that's how you got it that's how you get him back he's dead he's finished all right who's got my souls even though they're echoes fuck echoes the souls oh they're going to enemies here right yeah it's when you die you lose your echoes i know you think your echo would stay around we call them something funny on my stream back in the day i forgot what it was we need any jenna here you remember i could see you call them glooms your balls middle you must retrieve your balls retrieve my balls we're starting people with a briefcase i just seems fitting i know i'm gonna knock out the snorkel it's pretty close so fucking oh no how well how long is shit the problem is that when you mock her but your mockery of her had more emotion than her saying it so that is how you fail metal it wasn't a depth in another creation okay oh yeah i got you it's an adaptation of her okay yeah this is a possible way for me to be as expressless no doggos don't do it didn't stand to someone have my echoes around here should i get them back i'm confused who has them oh it's that guy maybe if you yell in an echo spec maybe you can hear them oh my god this isn't rags basically the show's co-host i mean nope he's a guest he's a guest that i've i just i enjoy his company so i bring it all every single show yeah i guess i'm just i'm just around all this i've got a really loose schedule so whenever there's an e-fap i guess i'll hop on and kill some time i guess i mean i could i try so hard but in the end it doesn't see i could i could understand by another people say that about me rags like how eventually people are going to be like wait a second i'm i'm starting to think is rags like a co-host he keeps hanging around it's insane he's like he's there every single time let's see if i can get the parry right i've not been parrying well at all so far all right big man here we go big word oh my god that worked rags is the show's mascot i'll take it and down niggles oh man i got shiny coins yeah yeah away away kathleen kennedy stole my memorial day and gave me the diabetes damn there should be some kind of stewing involved with that if if a lucas film employee gives you diabetes specifically the lucas film employee i mean that's the important aspect they provide a few the diabetes that was close nah the fuck is rags can me down rags got blocked by diabetes on twitter mission accomplished massive get the rhino milk um but now you can't see his really funny tweets like the one we read out where he said he thinks that the whole reason people dislike him is because he was born oh shit they don't need to die once for the doll to be alive i do i don't know i haven't died yet and i went away to unlock who you need insight and i can't remember if i can't remember where you get insight from the did you get it from bosses but you can also get it from uh well i guess i go try kill the therapy no death run do it dang it no death run i mean i already lost that so rip get some blood vials and that's oh wait i should have i should have uh where's mine with my items i have 10 molotov cocktails why are they so dramatic this town's finished like dude it's all well it's calm down you bounce back you know it's just corona why doesn't always because i don't want to watch i'm not watching either stream because i want to besides i want to remain neutral they're so mean don't beat me please i know i people without correction yes and they have to face their incorrectness that's why i come across it can be the only explaining oh this is like a fucking boss fight on its own is it though maybe just bad oh that might be all right kill the guy in the wheelchair ooh you shouldn't have streamed that might be against you as is it though i mean i did it as well i showed it on stream doing it stupid dwarfs wow but that's allowed okay got you fucked up double morals all right i feel like i'm getting into the hang as they say as kids your next video be over an hour it will be absurdly long it will be very long one hour and 10 minutes pure no way you'll be under an hour i would be i would would be very surprised oh god something's really too much to talk about with mando oh my god season one molotovs all right i want oil things i know you can pick them up somewhere very beast but boy i'll never understand why this flippy flappy cunningly plucked skeksis have such high opinion of himself skeksis i've never heard of the term skeksis oh it's kind of kind of disgusting in a way you know like you like you fucking skeksis you're like oh no what is that in cry whoa i don't even know what that means i threw it over his head how does that even work ow i missed two of the molotovs that's the racism right there mm-hmm gotcha oh that was a good one come here on my darling oh no no no dude i'm i'm gaming right now oh i almost died to gaming he's dead and missed the cleric beast with the molotov god damn it why is it so easy to best you're right i should heal now you are correct heal cool stupid crawl yeah i don't know when i can bury him um all right let's take on a boss i feel like i can do that ah during their rogue one commentary track red letter media made fun of people who like this scene and claim that this scene gets vader wrong oh the rogue one scene i disagree oh yeah i i definitely disagree as well that is absolutely 100% vader acting in character in a way that makes sense for him too the fact that it is also fan service does not matter it makes sense as er as once said and i agree with um you can argue to a degree that pretty much everything past a new hope can be called fan service in that these things are created with the intent to satisfy fans and also entertain them those stories but of course there are better examples than others also i'm losing health fast yeah perhaps i wasn't going to say that i would i would say that pretty hmm i think that like the sequel trilogy is fan service gone wrong it's like the mega verse fan service yeah i agree it's the things but executed horribly it's a terrible attempted fan service wait what do they hate the camera with clarity please so bad it's not just the camera it's the fps and the fact that your camera fills up with goo and fur yeah it's really annoying rags would hate it i'll fill your i'll fill your camera out with fur no they'll do it oh my god uh-huh you missed me idiot beast let's try just means in the actual way so i'm gonna die three times the first time what's happening j-boss the vain metal i'm a drink of blood and hunt the boost beast i'm on there is a boob in curcumber time nah am i winning mom winner oh i need more storm enough brutal break maul of tops he's antifa oh i should do that boom oh god i think he's angry oh no i got four i'm inside so you can have one of mine eat malatov bitch don't do it eat more malatov bitch was it i missed i missed like five malatovs by the way i didn't miss a single one i guess that makes me the best player of bloodborne since henry bloodborne i already beat him though i'd be in before you you're ahead of me in terms of behind me in time zones ahead uh i just said makes complete sense give me vitality no don't do it all right what trump broke me movie bob probably as long as he has someone to blame you know things won't get that bad he did everything right i get here and the first thing i see is movie bob whining about the orange man bad bob you're an ob's sack wasting oxygen go away that's a bit rude but okay some strong opinions here in the chat today imagine that yeah you guys got to roll back that angry my stuff lady oh wait i could have my shit already i don't know oh wait no i need to the the tools for that i think no no no no no no thank goodness come here brick troll boy no don't go back i mean i guess i guess we'll play with no summoning too that's that's how it was rules i oh you mean like npc summons yeah i've never done this i don't think i've ever done that and i think i saw it in um yms highlights where it's like using summons or getting weapons from summons is uh there's like little accolades he's earning from this score sheet that someone made before he started playing so for example killing or getting killed by certain bosses gets him like an accolade and he earned one and he was like wait what's this and it's like simp mode you brought it at mpc also like that i was like here simp mode you shan't want to use the diggles and then i rip them off and now he gives me items down to do it in real life down to do it imagine having to want to watch both streams at the same time depp well i do have three monitors well so you depp get depp on the depp and if you pause metals for long enough and then play it it'll sink all right yeah um ral get the roof must be in reference to movie bob it's just as has as a correction and then sorry rags i guess i guess you corrected them on their grammar at some point maybe i don't know so if trump's still movie bob's holidays would that make me him an efap hero if so i likey likey i likey likey that's something we should say more and we don't feel bad man because we don't like things remember we only hate things yeah true true you can't hit me i have more health now that's how this works that's not how this works i'm right what i beat you up old man now you're dead i told you to not do that that's illegals i probably shouldn't kill everything that i see right that's not how you play these games yes uh when do you fellows watch a start is on stream it'd be great to see your reactions to it also how well wags hello uh we would just be like i got fucked up wow that's really cool yeah i wouldn't have anything insightful to say in terms of what it's representing law wise or payoff wise for 40k i know i see i've seen a start already it's pretty pretty neat fuck yeah very very bob's the apex lover sexual i won't even completely show what that means but i'm okay with this as long as you're okay with it gets good by this but not a cleric beast wow there's always something dude cleric beast is a noob compared to the random mobs it was the double wolfenheimers that yeah they're fucking me up right now it's horrifying blasting through heels that was blasting the heels and use them you idiot i hate you both wait what is this oh shoot i'm out of bullettos fuck you actually no i don't know oh my god they're so aggressive you've known where we'll have to be aggressives people's i don't know that seems out of character don't you moan at me and fuck you spider man in this game kill them all towards trash being difficult but then dark wait hang on is this game too till more towards trash being difficult than dark souls oh i don't know i had a cinematic kill hello mr craze how you doing kill the barbs i'm trying uh them perhaps are the most dangerous enemies in the game i wonder if we can get them to jump off the bridge oh man he's probably dropped a health too oh i'm gonna go get it a whole health yeah a health he's dropped a health a health wait how did you get my echoes whatever so you say that to me like i got your echo it's a good black mambolo it's a good cut throat in here look it's a race race perhaps how goes it's always a lot of race with you you why um where we're here bob's psychotic tweet is about trump and other catching covid he's celebrating them being ill and that they might die he did that with boris as well uh it's not a good look like hoping for and i like it when people are like okay look i'm not saying i hope they die i'm saying it would be better if they did that's the same thing dude this this dog is crazy yo oh like we have a general sort of implied rule here that we don't wish death upon people that's something we try to avoid i'd say you know what i think that's a pretty good rule i think it's neat i don't know if that's a hot take but i'm willing to defend it probably is in this day and age that will create us a thing now touch my dangos oh dude fucking rack those two nice boy answer it on to father gas cognate sort of maybe we'll get there well rags kill them no don't kill rags scripts the script you may try grip says not to go rags so i won't we're doing you may try as a reference we'll just say that in general uh i'm not a general no no you rags no it is about you fine uh don't i get the there's a melody thing here somewhere just kill the dog a rago don't look at the stream just two it's too gruesome head pads for moutal hooray catch a bitch oh man oh that that clutch flinch okay oh no you missed hey metal what's the meaning of life a yumbo the meaning of life jeez that's pretty heavy for a stream of bloodborne yeah um re patrick if what people wanted was just a remastered the ot why did slash do people not like the special edition and why is tfa so bad oh yeah because the constant criticism being they just want the ot again um well that's the problem is this weird dichotomy but secondly mando kind of proved there is some validity to that just saying even though this is complicated because i don't consider what we saw of luke in mando to be the ot that's the ot is a little bit more meaningful than luke chops down robots yeah it's a little more important than that um like han is not just guy who sometimes shot storm troopers luke is not some guy who swung his lightsaber it's like the the actions that they take in combat that are the cool parts are not the reasons why these characters are memorable if every character was as beloved as they are because of the superficial aspects of what they do when they're fighting and doing cool things then the bar would be set so low for heroic characters so low you said yeah um then it would just be there are reasons that let's see what is it basically what was it but 40 years have passed and we still you know think of han solo and luke skywalker as their you know original trilogy manifestations so cool miss funny i agree on the mutuality of the ss objection get a mixing set for axmas and some alcohol today so i'm ready for this 35.7 hour bloodthorn stream nice i don't remember us and we're gonna stream for that long you shot it he's on a staircase oh it's probably they're referring to when i killed the doggo oh i don't know why they would encourage me to watch the change i know it's downright malicious oh all right jeez did we shot me that's illegal is it no oh i'm back here all right good i guess sequels just lowered the bar for so many fans it's sad kind of wait what load the ball sorry sequel sequels just lowered the bar for so many fans yeah they got definitely i thought i was thinking of prequels for a second but see yeah the sequels did they clearly did you put mando above or below the prequels what i might rate it's below i was gonna say i think i'd put it below like the idea like the prequels have good ideas in them that are just poorly executed um mando doesn't have anything nothing the the good ideas in mando are so rare and fleeting that it's it's kind of already being generous to call them good ideas that are present very deep within like it's a show about bounty hunter like bounty hunters bounty hunting is like no though it really isn't show about baby Yoda being traveled across places and sometimes stuff happens remember how in episode one of season one five thousand credits wasn't even enough to pay for fuel and they never ever mention how he gets fuel for the rest of the seasons ever like they take the time to highlight how this world works and they're like by the way ignore that you can repair a ship to you can essentially take a ship that is i don't even know how to describe it non-functional and restore it to hyperdrive safe space faring approved fully functional with one thousand credits but five k it isn't isn't even enough for fuel and one might say in defense of that well there's just a lot of you know the price of fuel is just really really high it's so high it's just insanely high to that degree and i would say then how come nobody ever mentions it ever and never seems to weigh on travel in any regard what's the best and worst mando episode in both season one and season two like across them both yeah across them both so i think that the worst is still season one episode four but there are a couple pretty solid contenders yep um that includes the finale to be honest of season one yeah a lot of bad ones as for which one is the best um season two episode five i think that might be it yeah is also what i would probably call the most unengaging the most boring i'd probably say yeah i think i was the most bored with that yeah that's coming crazy but didn't call me crazy but didn't he give the fishman a calamari currency he accepted in season one could it be worth different than credits well if it's a thousand credits worth yeah that's that's yeah that's the calamari flan but then that's a good point he gives him the calamari flan that he gets from season one which is one of those little he said that's like one of those tiny little bitty things of oh hey i remember the one you got that last season and he's been carrying that shit around him like his pocket those gummy discs and it is it is exactly it like oftentimes which happens multiple times in the show where he just like pours money into someone's hand and it's exactly the amount they need um but then he calls it like a thousand credits so well um grief karga says he can give him it in flan but it'll be half of what the bounty actually was right the idea being not only that all the bounties all of the bounties he collected and brought in which for like five or six he gets back to grief karga and grief is like here's your money and it's imperial credits which still spend however um rags doesn't so fuck mando mando doesn't accept uh mando doesn't accept them because he says the empire isn't around anymore and so grief says all right i can pay you in calamari flan but he can only pay half and mando is like okay mando is a huge cuck in grief in grief karga is shit at his job or well we don't know we don't know if there's like two possibilities here either grief karga is really really shit at his job and he doesn't like clear with his bounty hunters their method of payment beforehand but at the same time that is just as much on the bounty hunters like mando mando's an idiot for not knowing how he would get paid like surely when you take bounties you know what the bounty like what what the new price is but you'd also know the situation as in like sometimes grief might not even be able to pay you they must know this or at least not pay you in the currency you would expect that must be something that they're aware of it can't be it couldn't possibly be a surprise to you somebody must have fucked up royally for you to be surprised at the currency you're being paid in and for him to just go okay i guess i'll just accept half payment for all of the work that i just did because they know each other well right like they are they are very much acquainted and then the fact that he's like you know grief credits don't spend very well he's like yeah they do like why are they having this conversation they still spend which is all you need like it doesn't matter the only thing that matters about money is if they spend but also this is a conversation that they should have had ages ago they should both know this you know yeah what has he been getting his he's because grief puts the credits on the table and doesn't even say anything like this is what you always get paid with because it's not even odd it's like yeah here you go here's your payment and mando was surprised for some reason to be like imperial credits the empire is not around anymore what has mando been getting paid in and all the other years that he's been doing this yeah the problem would be with one or the other as in either mando shouldn't be surprised and that's what he gets paid in all grief is this is the first time grief has ever paid into this and should thus be prepared for him to be like hey what and mando should be surprised and say you've never paid me in imperial credits before which makes you wonder what is the secondary payment and to be honest there's i would imagine that if this was a real universe every planet would have its own currency and it would every planet would have its own currency and exchange rate because getting a whole planet to adopt the currency of other things is probably going to be like a it's not worth it to ever do to just swap over money plus we saw how well that works for the EU just everyone just adopting the same kind of currency when there's a lot of different economies involved and stuff it's just not a good idea but it always it always comes back to mando it's just different degrees of how much grief is at fault either zero or a lot but it always either way comes back to mando not establishing how he gets paid which is kind of the it's not it's like the point of bounty hunting is to get paid it's a means to an end because it's a job unless you're just in it for the thrill of a hunt um business logic monitoring the last few days well there you go wouldn't rags wouldn't imperial credits be worth more because it's rarer than when the empire was around no um sheer rarity of something doesn't give it value um historical money can have a lot of value for instance confederate money uh confederate states of america that money is worth a shit ton because of its ties to american history it's a very big collector's item and they didn't make that for very long um but there would be there would still be so much imperial credit money in circulation because it's only been like five years so really it's been five years since the battle of yavin when the first episode began i think a lot of it changed galactically yeah like the money is still everywhere like there's no reason to like just pragmatically the money would still be used um across the galaxy um but uh no it would just because they're just because they're not being rare anymore especially because it's because of money if you're going to use money as money not as specific collector's items then it would lose its value as you know legal tender for all that's both public and private because the people who are around to back it up no longer exist anymore um so rags wouldn't um just wondering how would you have conveyed to the audience that the imperial credits are becoming increasingly hard to spend i mean oh that that's just a throwaway line you could have mando say when mando's at the table he accepts the imperial credits that he's supposed to get paid for the job and he's gonna he and he just says to grief uh you know you can't pay me an imperial credits forever or you know these days you know the credits don't go as far as they used to now that the empire's gone just something like that it's just a couple you could even get away with it as he hands it to mando mando looks at it looks at him and then and then grief just goes they still spend just just the implication alone it's like i don't want to have these and it's like they still work they still work yeah they still work but i i would go for the mando saying you know just you can't pay me in these forever these you know you know these don't go as far as they used to or even he could be something like maybe if the maybe if the new republic you know maybe if they could get off their ass and make some you know make some of their own money be something or you could tie it in directly to navarro as a planet i mean if you wanted to be some ideal world building every planet would have its own currency navarro navarro's currency or local money i mean i could sit down and come up with some ideas but just my first suggestion i think works really well oh you um you have access to chat right now yo yo is asking for a fuck up oh i see it i never i never get why people do that it's just like why you must be so bored wasn't the point of that bit that he has to give imperial credits or flan because their guild isn't doing so well so he has no more republic credits to give so the republic credits probably wouldn't be worth a lot either they would arguably be worth less if you like if i was in mandos position i would want the imperial prince the empire was a very large force in the galaxy they were the dominant force in the galaxy and they only disbanded essentially like what at most five years ago but it probably far less it is the established currency that everybody kind of uses i would still want that because on a galactic scale it would take longer for that currency to go out of service and the republic doesn't have much of a presence on navarro at all uh they're kind of seen as a joke in fact mando even says that um they're they're a fledgling you know new government uh and i don't think that people wouldn't have enough trust in the currency i think because that's a big part of it because if you just don't trust that the money's going to be worth anything then it doesn't have any value to you it's really that simple i mean it isn't simple economics aren't simple but that part of it is you know well and you know what when when writing this it's a great opportunity just to be like let's figure this out how does this world look how is it doing right now instead this sort of they very rarely comment on currency in the show when they do it's frustrating those are rags if every planet had its own currency the possessive of it does not have an apostrophe on currency you would be sitting here losing your mind about how they wouldn't work no i don't think i would wait why would we say that wouldn't work yeah i i always find that so strangely good comments about now the republic credits i understand because the republic has been around for thousands and thousands of years so i can understand why like republic credits would be practically ubiquitous throughout the galaxy however if a planet shows not to in fact the idea that you could either use republic credits or your planet would use your own currency probably was a huge aspect of the constant trade disputes and everything that we got a whiff of in the prequels you know what is the you know trade routes and disputes would absolutely be tied in with what is the current you know local currency versus you know galactic currency galactic republic currency um but when you imagine like i think part of this i think is common is partially born from the the problem with star wars and that they devalue just how much a planet is because you go to a planet and it's just like a city yeah like tatooine tatooine's a whole planet right but you the only place they go to on tatooine is moss isley it's like no there's other places like like naboo is a whole planet it's not just feed like all of these planets that they go to or like like imagine earth right i mean think of all the currencies that we have here on earth mm-hmm but star wars kind of unfortunately to a degree i don't think it's necessarily its fault it is now more than it used to be but it makes the whole the idea of having an entire planet seem very small like just a city or a community has to accept the new currency or something like that and that's just it it's not like it's a whole planet of people billions of people and also like like do you speak wookie no like wookie's a race do you speak the language of this entire race like even that sort of thing it's little things like that that get us to kind of accept simplicity um i mean i can see how that might have happened if it really is just one language hit by the entire race it's just simply evolved out they just yeah it would get like i could picture a wookie being like you know there are differences between how eastern wookie's and western wookie's speak and you're like okay that's fine that's fair i think we we i bet you'd like imagine aliens look at human languages as a whole and just call them human we'd be like excuse me like because they're just so different in how they communicate i guess however they do it yeah one mentions currency is a problem even in 40k oh yeah absolutely like every planet is gonna have its own kind of currency and you have to have like there would be like you know how lawyers right the only job of lawyers is to like accurately dispense the law basically and you would think oh it's it's just people you would have people whose job it was probably in star wars to just handle and manage economies and monies um and trade stuff like it would be very complicated that's the it's complicated in the real world you know how all this stuff is calculated in it and in the future it would just be probably what it is now just on a galactic scale but they're used to having to deal with it so probably it wouldn't be an issue it would be technically more complicated but it wouldn't be an issue it's like i am going to naboo i have navarro money um so when you travel you'd be like okay so my money's gonna be worth such and such on this planet which means maybe on the way to navarro if i'm coming from tatooine i should stop at such and such planet maybe exchange currency so that when i get to naboo it'll be worth a bit more it's like if you retired like if um if you retired with a pension or something here in america and you moved to the philippines right you could live really really well because the currency goes farther it's just it's one of those little things and i think it'll be interesting yeah and i don't expect go ahead our baseline when we were talking about the fucking the state of affairs on tatooine in phantom menace was i would imagine most people in the galactic republic would have almost all planets might have their own local currencies but they're all gonna want to be able to exchange for galactic republic credits like that's probably something they're all gonna do i'm willing to accept some of them might not they're on the outskirts or whatever but not fucking morse isley like there's just no way the amount of trading and hunting and everything that goes on there that they wouldn't be prepared for someone to come in wishing to use their credits it's like a course they should and when we have once you get into the idea of a a galactic republic being able to operate part of that operation is managing economies so i i don't have an issue you know and i don't think i ever had with like galactic commerce they would have figured it out in a way that's good enough with problems here and there which are the trade disputes and if they get particularly bad then you might have conflicts of this kind of the other so i don't expect this to ever be you know gotten into in detail in the movies of course but you know a little thing they never had to but they can't even handle basic exchanges of currency like it just brings into question all these things and then we like have to talk about what it implies on a deeper level and why they needed to avoid it hence why we the solution of everyone just passes stuff to each other and they never name it so that we can assume it all just makes sense everyone's following if they can see it they know how much it is they've already agreed upon it whatever don't explicitly say a thousand credits and all you could do is this and then also say five thousand credits doesn't get me fuel it's like i'm confused i mean yeah if he said five thousand credits doesn't you know isn't enough to pay for fuel then we know what have grief said well then you should have fueled up in the core systems you know closer to the heart of the republic you know the further away you get the further you get away from the core systems then the price of fuel can fluctuate a great deal maybe you're further away from the supply maybe the closer you are to a a depot or a fuel producing hub of the galaxy the the more expensive it gets as you get further away from that you know it's one of those things but just these little lines that that mando or grief could say that are just they just add a little bit of world building in a little bit here and a little bit there and a little bit here and a little bit there and all adds up into this pile right it does not the actual rice but just yeah this is just making sure they work very chill so disney made up this whole fuel deal yeah they as far as i know they did it was never an issue before i assume that in star wars that like it was like mass effect right the first thing that you see in the whole mass effect trilogy is basically text that says don't worry it's the mass effect they named the whole they named the whole series the franchise after their answer for basically unlimited incredible unlimited energy don't even think about it you don't have to it's the mass effect and then they go from there and disney's like nah fuel is like a really precious commodity and you could totally run out of it and it's constantly something on everybody's mind when it never was before if they would have started with the fuel quote unquote crisis or the fuel concern then would have made more sense but they just pull it out of their ass from nowhere imagine my shock um i don't even was there a sewage at the start of that or was it just i don't remember i don't remember um it is stated that the t-16 skyhopper which luke has flown has similar controls to the t-65 x-wing uh i don't think that's in response to anything people usually cite that whenever someone says uh he learned how to use an x-wing from nowhere he's a mary sue um he's experienced with ships and apparently the t-16 skyhopper which he's very familiar with she is designs with the x-wing yeah that's what i've heard do they say that in the movies i can't remember i know they mentioned he's going to benefit from having done what he's done in tattooing but i don't know if they're that specific yeah he has he has experience flying in ships shooting at small targets and falls all the way down you it is a little bitty throwaway line and it's something yes sir oh god yeah the only time they ever worried about fuel was in episode one oh that comment is here too oh yeah they i guess they run out in phantom menace right or they're running out i can't remember well he said the fuel was like the fuel lines are leaking which is not probably which in the in the issue with that isn't that oh no we're we don't you know we're not getting the fuel that we paid for it's we have a volatile substance that's currently uncontrolled and running through the ship systems yeah that's not good yeah he doesn't ask for more fuel he asked for repairs so that is interesting well he says the parts he needs yeah there's there's some room for interpretation with that hyperdrive that was a fuel for the hyperdrive yeah i can totally believe that fuel for the hyperdrive would be super volatile well in solo it is yeah i mean i totally believe that where's it collaxium or some incredible piece of high energy technology the inner the the fuel that they use for it must you know it has to provide that energy and if you're gonna compact it down into smaller you know something small it's probably gonna have a shit ton of energy for squaring it's squaring just serve for you but you know you give up yeah my issue with the vader scene in rogue one was that it contradicts a new hope lair tells vader that they were in a diplomatic mission which wouldn't make sense since they just fled the battle and was shot out minutes ago um wouldn't you still claim such things could you still not claim it i'd have to look at the specific dialogue but couldn't it still line up that lair is just playing incredibly dumb because she can dumbo to be at um fuck what is even the planet at the end of rogue one i forget the name of it but they know they were there and vaders accusing her of having gotten the plans she's obviously going to deny that and she comes up with we're on a diplomatic mission or rather the guy strangling does i imagine they both did but yeah um lair obviously lied we all know that she lied but uh how i guess the criticism is why would she try a lie like that is that what we're saying how you doing already killed you guys going yet no did you i'm moving toward him next i'm not your weapon yet huh i'm about no facet dard i'm not as good as you right then i'm like oh no don't throw a molotov oh no no no not like that well i think this is not the fast way of doing this uh yeah use pc park picker just a good one hyperdrive generator is gone master we need a new one well i think they just i think they said the fuel lines are leaking and depending on what damage is sustained though like those two things don't counter each other i barely don't wear up is because i don't have the thing all right someone said another ship should have escaped the fight then met with her ship her ship should not have been at the battle yeah that's really dumb i agree with that yeah i absolutely agree i think that that was the actual fan service really seeping in being like look it's lair on this ship in this fight beta's right there look look look it's like you can't show up on a ship like that with you on board going to you can't do that that's dumb we were on a deck matter if this is a consular ship then where is the ambassador more like a consular i didn't want to shiny a vision of the jedi being extinct is that in reference to i don't know what that's in reference to this is this is ages ago to land somewhere to refuel and repair the ship yeah so they could have a fuel line leaking and also a new hyperdrive refuel and repair yes um patrick is mad that we don't like being subjected to hollywood's active measures demoralization heaven forbid we want to not be miserable sad sacks um i mean they think they're creating stuff that makes people happy they just need to you know someone just sent me a message and said uh i feel like the biggest issue with rogue one is that it introduces the plot holder at least contrivance that why didn't laia ship why did laia ship exit hyperspace over tatooine and outer rim world on the way to a presumably core system well the fact that laia wanted to contact obi one um i don't know if that's a maybe yeah like she knew that the empire would be on her tail and she yes she wanted him for help i guess which is weird so you're leading the empire in the imperial fleet to obi one like you want to be careful there laia especially because you put a message on the droid that specifically addresses obi one kenobi who darth vader absolutely knows and now he knows he's on tatooine vader doesn't fuck around when he's looking for so uh yeah oh yeah uh oh no movie's perfect that really hurts the beginning of a new hope actually a new hope's beginning is is kind of crazy honestly like the odds that the pod lands and ends up on a fucking sand crawler that ends up being bought by luke who ends up being found by then it's like damn yeah it's like um yeah we saw this in mandalorian we see this often but in mandalorian when esoka tells mando to go to that planet and go to the jedi temple there she doesn't tell him anything more specific other than where the temple is located on that planet and in the next episode he's shown arriving at it and i'm like yeah she says it's um does she say at the top of the a mountain or the mountain and it's just like mountain there's a lot of mountain it's not even high it's not even yeah you could walk up it without an issue quickly it's a hill it's a hill and a healing hill land and if she'd said it's on the hill it'd be like the hill this is a planet with one hill first off i'd have to look for that hill which basically doesn't help but oh so is it she's a princess not a bastard tactician come on so it said go to the moon there you will find a crater with what you decide i love that the moon acts as like a earth shield from crater thingies and stuff but it spins around and attracts it to them whatever i've never seen a video about it it also helps that the uh we have a thick atmosphere and the moon does not yeah all right father gas coin he's not actually my dad but i'll allow it i guess shame i guess thank you moon it's a while we're like it's been that's correct the moon has the moon is tidally locked much like i think almost all of the moons in the solar system are tidally locked we'll build that moon yeah eventually all moons i'm pretty sure that eventually given enough time and it takes a long ass time but all moons will become tidally locked to the planet they're metal please say i guess they must be friends now it's a final line i need for my i guess they must be friends now do what you will with that hello gus coigner how are you doing sir oh god he's attacking me i just wasted a fucking pile for the reason because i got spooked why is he so angry i didn't do nothing i know right hey i didn't get the fucking report so i thought the latest hypothesis is that we will eventually lose the moon maybe the moon gets i heard that it's getting like it's like moving by a very tiny amount it's not technically always the same distance it's uh just to change this a little bit so the moon does spin it spins the same thing but yeah god damn it oh fucking up those parries dude yeah i'm fucking all mine out got him but i was no it's not fit oh wow America landed on the moon first does that mean they own it no um didn't america announce that it's for everyone looks like antarctica it is not owned by any single country um it is to to promote the and also militarily yeah no one can yeah can't use an article or stuff or yeah no one country can own the moon oh no get the shit take over the moon maybe they should because he ignored music what the hell wait you used the music box wow it's noob chat i didn't use it i mean some a chat well it's just ignoring it i only used it once i'm a chat now mel's a sim music sip all right where are we um patrick is mad rice cousin kiss sonny hi rags hey thank you for recommending a plagues tale innocence a great game also hi everyone else present hello oh okay i beat him now so i think what happened was i used the music box once it worked and then i used it twice after that but it was right when he jumped up so i think the the thing stacked for uses even though it didn't use it probably twice that's why my guess and hymer here you guess but you do not know it makes you try to get to this game i'm afraid for fringles yeah he's still in popped up huh yeah i'm talking about other things what's that smell it's blood i think i have enough for another upgrade arena for my cleave and climb it's all you do i did it i just did it i did it just now wait what i need to do to put like weapons into the weapon do i need like some tool for that oh you get it right after gas going i think oh well i should probably just walked out there first oh i'm so sary tomb of birdy boom of autumn oh there that's already in sated pretentious wait a minute who's whose voice is actually the most powerful can can you and rags talk at the same time i'm curious hello my name no i i can't talk at the same time as rags i mean i guess it's prioritizing i'm always talking at the same time as rags it's prioritizing you over metal rags oh wow hey metal goes there's a pleasant change of pace yeah i like that i have to get the gas train i mean what oh my god don't do it wait it's like a do you think that happens now on discord it's just a little noticed it's not you know well i don't know how do i rags is the top dog you bet you bet i am top dog oh had your kids had your wife top dog always coming for your uh something that rhymes for your bitches what do i just use use what uh square no like how do i get to them oh whatever fine fine fine fine what do you want rags is smaller oh wow rags i don't just got the same guy who mentioned the robe one contrived and said i don't think it's contrived that the pod would hit tattooing in the general area of obi one if luke hadn't bought the droids luke still would have probably been called upon by obi one we can assume the pod was meant to go in his general area i suppose right uh sure if it i don't think there's any lines for that yeah i mean i would assume that a pod can be controlled in the droids worked in obi like an r2d2 in particular with nowhere to go then again that makes you wonder they went straight to obi one from the pod when the empire was in orbit chasing them and they got a little bit lucky that they didn't get blasted out of space there's a lot of ways the plan could go really really wrong yeah it's it doesn't get stronger the more i look at it looks sir droids you're a droids shut up no i'm the droids what did i go with your logo oh no what did that fortification even do i'm not even going to check i just know it is good wow i suck that on did you squish the bruce yes put it on your bloodstuff beast is next right yeah i get those fun tizms ready funnions okay uh that conceited pretentious half balding limp weenard soft brain sack of scrotal wasting 300 iq i have a film degree and everyone needs to know it maxi pad sniffing simp rated revenge of the sith lost what's happening i don't did he do that did patrick rate revenge of the sith the lowest damn what you already have 26 vitality i'll shed i can surely yeah i that sounds like something he'd do he thinks tlj is the best right oh second best i'd be surprised i would be surprised if you just said it was the best sounds like a patrick thing to say i might be giving him way too much credit um good old plat say cathedra ward oh yeah me and mel probably not going to be doing all of the bonus side things that happen in this game rather than just soloing around yeah why didn't the new republic build their own death star just as a just in case that would make for a really good storyline i think the republic uh yeah um a lot of yeah a lot of them we have one one side wants to build one and the other side is like fuck no i think it would be tough to do it and we'd need a lot of time but i would like it the layer is the one that ends up approving it and it's like we just have to really work on justifying it and it would have to be it would be really tough i would think lay would be against it more than anything that's hence why i said it would take a lot to uh make it happen but if we're going to get a main character to do it i i feel like she's going to be the closest one and if we if we crank the uh the grief of never wanting an empire like entity to rise again now i think that's a good jumping off point to introduce a new potential antagonist or partial antagonist i don't want it to be um a strictly evil decision only even if you can build support yeah it doesn't well that's the cause well i i antagonist would it still be evil or not it still be the antagonist no and i guess i don't necessarily want it i don't know it sequesters it to like that is the thing to be defeated now this person who's decided this thing will happen rather than making it complicated i sure and i could i i would it would be easier for it would be easier to justify why they want it but to try and justify it to the audience would be very difficult yeah i don't know because um i like the idea of over-stepping in terms of destroying the empire but i'm making a death that's probably too far yeah i wouldn't make it a death star either i wouldn't make it a just make it just a really strong army she puts a a martial you know preference on like the funding that they have and we could have to push the um the hawkish nature of the republic to a certain extent and then she gets like oh outdone by other members of the republic that are like yes let's build a death star and she could be like jesus christ what and they're like i mean you've led us here or something like that and that's when she has to back the fuck out or try and push against it some kind of yeah if i had to bring in another a republic death star something like that though i wouldn't do that yeah so i was gonna say that would probably be another reason why not you shouldn't do it it's like we don't need any more death stars let's work with other stuff yeah the galaxy would never the galaxy would never allow that to happen ever again no one would ever yeah just build a thousand mini ships and hyperdrive and slam them through anything it's like no no no no no okay that that is i don't even know how we would retcon it but i don't want that to be a thing hyperspace ramming if ever we got to write like anything to do with stars i would just i would just to ignore it i think that would be act like it never happened so it's like could you use hyperdrive as a weapon and someone else looks like what no no what are you saying no it doesn't work that way and you'd be like no one would even bring it up it's like it's not even some people consider backstabbing is cheap moodle well at least not using a shield right guys imagine using a thing designed to protect you to protect you cringe oh Jesus look at that health they try to steal from me by the way i just got like um what do you call it when you're like locked into a series of hits you got a lock that's it yeah i got stumblocked by like four different sources but um i survived with like a sliver of health i actually saw that right when you said it so um upgrade in health in this game just saying trying to brag out i beat them there's no bragging for stumblocking fuck that shit you do or you don't i mean you could probably try and mediate but i still consider it bullshit oh yeah it's still good what a german was english rather than a welchman i mean it happens occasionally hey i nailed not leaving gas coins area until getting the gem you didn't feel funny for you but you interrupted me and i'm sad um i mean i valued my joke more than yours no take it back there is no joke queue that you get precedent over you have to fight you have to die i'll fight you and then die i feel right to a giggle even as a kid i thought the ot was better than the pt i enjoyed the pt then not now but the ot was still strictly better also high rags hi i remember thinking that when i watched them all i was like the ot was better than this but i like this yeah i like the um i like prequel trilogy they're bad but i appreciate them and what they did and there was an i there were ideas behind them i tussle the hair of the prequel trilogy check your highlighted messages or is this i'm willing to give metal a bj not rags heat not my mouth oh my god something with suffocated dead i can't read the first james is drunk so you can breathe through your nose no we know oh me not since not since trump you're like oh oh it's trump ruin trump ruin noses what happens i took my nose from me making noses great again you give me items at least i think he does die fire this argument is bs the sequel trilogy was blatantly trying to jack off people's nostalgia of the ot true what are you drinking james everything what do you do with insight in this game again like what do we use it for typically i can't remember you buy you buy things with it right we can do i think you can buy things with that if i remember correctly it also changes some bosses and things i think at the inside you can see the the katholou thing that drags you into the dlc me me things so i don't have water or anything else to drink someone go get grab me something thank you knock oh man you never do so rude replaying jedi academy was just as fun as before i should hope so i can imagine that game holds up pretty well um star destroyers have a massive weakness they have no rear weapons a ship can sit to safely behind it also high wags um but they do have tie fighters though um not to imply there that like that means that that's not something they should account for because i i i kind of agree i think that's probably something they should work on i think so yeah and they're often they're often not alone uh star destroyers yeah that's it like not just tie fighters but other star destroyers um um hi rags hey i was glad to hear that you liked but baton kaitos baton kaitos baton kaitos yeah eternal wings in the last ocean have you played the second game origins it streamed a lot of things from the first one oh um maybe one of these days i'll get an emulator and give it a shot but uh no i have not played um i've not played origins no this is the uses because racism like you know what's going on yes damn racist against the japanese draper nords oh right yeah we need antidotes for this tizami enemy i forgot i'm gonna go for it i'll be right but if you do that i'll get really far ahead of you can refill my oh my god uh contra patrick what about adults who thought the ot was amazing at the same time of release and have been star wars fans ever since because they exist you got in fairness to patrick his arguments require that you don't know stuff to counter them so you got to consider that when you respond to them it's not that you're watching movies wrong it's that you have a different opinion and that's wrong hi rags hey you know it happens i believe it i said the only time that i feel like you're watching movies wrong comes in is just in relation to the absorption of knowledge from the thing that you consumed if you like manage to watch something that didn't even exist that sort of shit like man you watched it wrong it sounds like a weird thing to say you know that sound odd pick up any of those weird red bloops i did oh oh well um kids today do not like the sequels i mean i'm sure plenty of kids do and plenty of kids don't right we don't really rely on children for yeah kids are not great gauges for content but i could see why they wouldn't like it yeah toy sales or anything to go off of apparently those are really horrible but like yeah if i was a kid like who do you like see yourself as like i don't know hmm i'm gonna have to destroy the minigun person i remember this um so what season of efep are we on now asking for efep.me uh i think i said that we should probably start splitting them into the years so we're on season three technically because if we go by like every 10 episodes or something the seasons are gonna get ridiculous if you really wanted to categorize them into seasons anyway i said rags but 40k chaos god would you serve it's sort of a tie between slanesh and zinch leaning towards slanesh though i think that's probably where i'd uh what i'd stake my uh put my investment into make it a good payoff for that maybe i'm a teen and almost every kid i've talked to about the sequel trilogy has said that they greatly dislike it yeah i'm back what are you sick of me dawg i'm sorry horse rags is a filthy heretic the question assumed which one would i serve like obviously if i was that was in the universe i wouldn't serve any of them but i thought the question was like if you had to serve you know one of them which one would it be um so i thought that was sort of built into the question because i didn't want to give a lame oh none of them i wouldn't serve any of that was part of the question when will mauler forcibly make you watch buffy i don't know i guess we'll see oh in time my precious doggo same for mel same for jay in time i'm so convinced i chose rio that would be racism the worst two these days it's very good i really like it i've been playing it almost every day it's like it's what it's like kind of like one of my go-to casual games to play i enjoy it greatly need out mr craze thanks for the ten euro tizms here's some drinking money on me you massive well thank you very much i trust we'll kick that welch a fox ass in the rain i'm trying i well now i'm drinking thanks to that mean statement i actually i'm halfway through this blue moon made a drink with myself so here's all right fire with coke um brutal i sent you something important you have to read on discord all right let's let's see let's let's let's check it out do it let's check the greatest sentence ever written in the english language all right let's see let's see uh the horn goes the the horn goes of a dongfish is attached by a skungle to a kind of dill sack the nutter sack is that at all real it's like a real really weird fish with like a sack attached to it it looks real enough uh hang on let me let me get that link into the other thing so to deactivate discord on ovs so it looks doesn't look weird uh and then i'll put it in here and there you go the horn goes of a dongfish is attached by the skungle to a kind of dill sack it's good that that's um that was spoken here rax would you say the phantom menace versus return of the jedi is an interesting debate as far as overall quality oh return of the jedi is way better i uh i don't know how why would that be an interesting debate i don't know yeah so the phantom menace is basically horrible all the way through there's nothing there there's basically nothing good about it um it's it's it's the worst of the prequels it's a terrible movie it falls apart at basically every level oh yeah we just we figured the attack of the clones was actually superior right oh yeah i think attack of the clones is a little bit better it gets it gets known as the worst one because of the romance that's where everyone says yeah but um definitely am of the opinion that the phantom menace is the worst of the three support your claims we don't have to support all claims that would be a long discussion we're long enough all the things that are terrible with the phantom minute that is a long discussion we already did a stream all about phantom menace remember and it was horrible yeah we kind of did yeah it was yeah it went great we also oddly enough had to defend the phantom menace yeah that was this experience all of it was what a wild what the world um he played us like a damn fiddle is in is in this super child i don't know is it patrick playing us like a fiddle because i don't believe it fiddle sticks that's a league champion that's all you could be referencing with that jane this is what rings first true um i don't i'm concerned this is this is something that we should all of i think we've addressed it before but i guess we can just do it again jay watched fellowship and didn't watch the next two do you understand what that means and he hasn't the big gay yeah that's some hypergays because not watching it at all i can see that but watching just one of the three oh man really that's a big weirdo yeah so um all right as someone said really rags the music is bad the costumes are bad the sets are bad the actors are bad so all right let's go let's go down the list the music is not bad the music's good i'll say the music is good in the fan of menace the costumes are fine totally fine i think when you think when you say costumes in fan of menace all i can think about is queen avodala's insane outfits i guess they're talking costume design in general it's just like it's fine in general it's fine yeah sure now the sets are bad no the sets are fine uh the actors yes certainly anakin right on jen's fine but like generally the acting in the fan of menace is fucking bizarre lots of weird deliveries from lots of characters it is otherworldly it's like aliens wrote that and then delivered all of the dialogue it is bizarre so that's sort of fair enough always happy to offer clarification though i would want to be like how often do we say uh when i say this is good or bad i am of course referring to the soundtrack the costumes and the sets it's like we mainly talk about writing here you can assume rags were saying the writing to assume he's saying when he says everything's terribly specifically talking about the soundtrack of the acting of the the sets and the costumes like that's strange i think all their faces are ugly wow yeah boy that gives you the right to be racist how do i see my shards how do i get my oh it's that one that's what i was looking for right i need eight i think you defo deserve the sequels rags the music is all right yeah deserve the sequel by pushing for better than the prequels we heard the sequels the music was good right or did i say it was all right i i can't remember what you said anymore but um i'm i'll go to good the music's good the music is good in the phantom music is good in all of star wars at least the ot and the in the ot and the prequels and the mandalorian the music is really good i can't fucking remember anything from the sequels so um but i'll take an alternative take to that yeah i remember kyla's and i remember reyes i obviously remember the um reusing songs which i don't know if we count no so yeah um i don't i don't remember enough to see though you have because of your videos on tlj return this guy return to the sky versus the end of the return of a skank weaker um but especially like the force awakens you're very familiar with the music in a way that i'm not quite um yeah um i'm not quite familiar with i just don't remember anything from it um so love is blinded you always sticks out as the absolute worst conversation between anakin and padme yeah that one's what's going out again in padme yeah that that conversation on the terrace in episode two is fucking bizarre and oh what makes music good rags oh i don't think i could quantify it objectively however i bet i could make some pretty compelling arguments that would convince me a lot of it isn't because of the music itself it's how it's used in conjunction with scenes especially because we're talking about its quality is a soundtrack dude shoot for very much anything i feel like that it's just once in a while so people don't forget what the fuck did you just say metal i said a dozen ego can shoot through everything but can't shoot through anything from jacob except we can't at all needs to be emphasized once in a while so people do not forget you know what's funny about that scene is the guy talking to jacob then says well not everything like fucking jacob he's so useless and yet he's the best character shoot through everything except for the standard body armor that everybody uses everywhere he delivers a lot of his lines like that the gravel is insane because i honestly think he's just not putting in the effort to actually like extend his throat he's like bad woman's gonna put on the damn suit for this episode isn't that enough i'll stop it i'm climbing here now go away oh you're so beautiful you're so beautiful before and it works someone said the lion the witch in the wardrobe is a perfect example of what you're talking about rags wow i have to reference those in a long ass time oh are those gonna be efat movies sometime which ones what chronicles of narnia i if you want i mean i don't i just cure it just now that people have mentioned it i'm like oh those would probably make good efat movies i don't know i only saw them like once i i don't even remember aslan liam neeson that's all i know yes no wait that's i know that's blanking jamison erlan jonas as liam neeson is aslan is way better than james ro jones as mufasa in the 2019 version important caveat at the end agreed though that poor man the age difference might explain it as well as the my god i'm doing this again okay they paid me a lot of money though doing this again bible man first rags bible man i would love to watch bible man that looks like it's a shit ton of fun to watch oh yeah just saying absolutely hunter battles in this game suck okay i just shot him off the roof yeah i tried it doesn't always work yeah i know he you shot simultaneously simultaneously and then just like me you also went to throw a molotov if i had gone forward instead of shooting again i might have been able to get him well unfortunately you're bad oh my god look where the item spawned uh shit doesn't spawn up there if i relock not relock if i go back to the hunter world it's just cringe hunter fighters so crotch yeah they're annoying the one in the dlc with the gatling gun is insane i remember that clip where he just shoots and shoots and shoots and shoots and shoots it doesn't stop yeah as a kid i'd be pretty annoyed by tlj breaking law i feel like even as a kid i would have noticed the um the hyperspace kamikaze i think i would have been like whoa bro what do you do and then i have another character say it's one in a million i'd be like what how would how could you fuck it up though yeah if it works the way that you presented it then uh go back we came back up back at the top huh oh yeah yeah i know i was wondering if it still does it because it did spawn on this weird thingy here i'll show give it a go so my god we're seeing on my my screen and your youtube what's with climbing ladders yeah six anyway what happens around it rags oh my god what um i'd like to give a shout out to my boy james moll the biggest i'm gonna die again whoops biggest chat ever i did die again sorry james you almost got it out of but haver of i almost died the hell move is that i put the gutling gun guy and he'll see recently and he won't do that ever become quite the depth of cheesing hunters that's that's good that's what i would claim is the problem like oh yeah i just cheesed them it's like oh fuck it this shit is insufferable yeah they can shoot all the time they deal a fuck ton of damage with their shots like for you it's just a tool to parry if the damage is like a killing device so if i get them on the edge i mean there's obviously uh weapon needs to kill like the flame for for example that's pretty good and no cane built i think they're all correctly how come i didn't parry at all because you're so powder kek key i got this powder kek master tech see that move is oh my god uh yeah that'll definitely happen at some point oh yeah he's spamming his fucking gun you're not allowed to do that i don't hear you're i'm allowed to do that because i'm a human no this is not bullet that shoots the bed places and then it's a good one oh that's that's unfortunate Jesus the gun does a lot too damn nice oh i'm out of the fucking bullets i didn't realize uh you're a bullet sticker i got you you do auntie dot there give me the item oh my god that was neat i'm gonna put them in my rare um not my front one there's no enemy here no one landing heavy oh they just healed i want to die spamming their fucking gun it's so much fun he is this real like anyway uh i'd like to give a shout out to my boy james more the biggest super chatter in the known world beneficiary of podcasts and a great singer damn oh is he doesn't surprise me does not surprise me upgrade my weapons i think i'm a maximum um i need more eight more shards and i got five yeah oh don't charge on them shum shum away boy shum away shum away don't come through that door come here you come lord you're a loom card it's like it's funny that the hunters are just cranked in every category like is there anything they fail out and it's like well ai every once in a while well the kind of stupid sometimes may be perhaps sometimes are a bit she's crisis how many fucking enemies are down here three that's funny he said all right chat let's do this again i'm gonna shoot at him straight away and hopefully it works have any bullets go oh thank you for reminding me actually accurately this time that's good but i can fix that just look at the screen it's like you don't have any bullets and then i said it and it was very epic indeed now i have five you jealous metal i don't know james we know that this deal can at least shoot for a thick book a young couple on the internet proved this i see you and usually we're fighting raw on the rooftop epic yeah i won though on my end so does it really count as a victory does it it's the idea i think it's yeah you mother my god this game i can almost guarantee you this is gonna happen to me when we do the actual race what does it do if i just go down the ladder just chill uh oh my god raven just stab it i should have thought about the fact that i had no health left good point enemy hunter are you people seriously donating money to ask about star wars jesus christ um i imagine that they're just looking to donate in general and can add a question to it you know although they donate money without asking star wars and other stuff too also asking questions about star wars is fine i'm okay with that honestly go for it we're familiar with star wars i have no problem with you asking questions that are related to our area of expertise yeah that works out nicely people also ask questions would come but that might only be my chat i'm not sure could be gotta go now spending on my free time working on this efep meme so thanks metal yeah i'm looking forward to it have a good point don't you have a cool outfit like the long man has for you mean i don't i don't have time to fashion born while i do a race test you probably have fashion born i'm just not using it no i sold them for echoes that's probably a waste you're a bad person you also want to grab me was it literally you just shot them off as soon as you get off the ladder because i the fucking three times i've tried it just like fucks up that's how i did it just went up i'm guessing i'm just getting really unlucky two or three times and then you went off i forgot the echoes again gonna have objectives in your race the counter tower and multiple levels are optional i what is the goal i don't even know first person to kill orphan of course me well all bosses i don't know poor fringy never uh well yeah and it'll be over a select number of sessions there's no way we're doing this in one on one go uh wait this is the short cut i opened that one let's always come this and come that how about you guys come up with a better joke as you did it there good job good job you can't see me you can't come jay what it's fucking demos sound is still loud as shit dude demos doesn't even change it's safe again i'm thinking about trying to get to an edge and dodging out of the way when he gets real close to it that's a real that's a pro play right don't shoot me make a poop dog that is a good twitch name i agree poop dog i like it because it's because it's really classic i know right me i don't think enough credit is given for the fact that you guys do your best to read every super chat so from the bottom of my heart thank you for doing your best to read all of them no no worries you're welcome yeah man you guys are very very generous and reading reading at your super chat this seems to be the well at least what we can i wanted to complain but you guys are being wholesome plus it allows us to talk about uh galactic economies and fictional universes so that's a great jumping off point for that uh am i being a big dumbo right now i mean i always am but where do i where are you oh i know i could be doing better at what i'm trying to do but i definitely did what's required and i got really unlucky several times there's no fucking way that i'm letting that be not the case i don't know though the blunderbuss is better at doing this you're racing crypto hunter's eggs get to hypergene gal which is get moon rune rendered gal for a while and you'll overlevel and blast through no we're doing we're doing the cleaver were those rap lyrics uh yeah you're racing crypto hunter sacks you must beat him oh another hunter here no i can't throw you over roof i'm leaving bye wow pussy didn't ever worth it anyways no they're not just annoying fights that slow the game down i'm with them give you badges to so you can hey slowing the game down means you get more for your money don't you just get slower for your money no you get you get to even more play time even more content more time with the content like cunt and content edit but patrick dismissed the EU is just wikipedia articles rather than great stories that fleshed out the universe and introduced great characters i bet he didn't even read one of the books i'm sure he didn't i son of a hole cannot remember how to get down here i think it's somewhere different than here yeah this is just a shortcut look everyone are you skill oh wait oh fuck there it is i'm a big old dumbleton yeah i can finally move on now life is not as painful as it was why didn't you probably do it again goals hashtag goals i missed no no strange art style for a sonic game yeah i think that's fair it's a bit of a deviation if you could say that once again throw the balls off yate fuck what do the badges do again are they passive bonuses you can buy more items from the shelf oh i thought you meant badgers like the critter what about how's like i don't know i guess they just dig holes and eat and stuff flags i need to know what badges do what if badgers do it's getting great imagine that like a business new to earth and they keep asking questions like that it's like oh sorry what is that a whale what do whales do and you're like oh i guess they swim around you know oh all is so sad were you just eating so there was like this little little lizard thing that gives you resources so i was trying to hunt that and it got away with one health so i didn't and i didn't heal what i was attacked by four randoms then i started to run away and then a big wolf came and yeah then i died there was a lot of things that happened there and they were all bad you would abuse just what you're saying pretty much that idiot hey i didn't mean you i meant this disgusting creature oh i mean that is weird it's down oh man like for this shortcut to oh this is probably not preferable yeah i'm gonna fight everything again i'm just gonna run through and flop the dangas right on the table um yeah i do like the idea though that patrick would dismiss all of the eu as like but but tlj though that's the that's the great stuff it's like he probably would have loved a lot of the eu if he likes like as bad as tlj is you know big wolf came and i died a lot of bad things happened and i died moodle just now i mean big wolves are kind of they do fuck you up so i understand yeah and there wasn't a single lie in the sentence that i uh said so a sedentons sedentons cabling me sort get out of my way while we just creep me in my my ear excuse me ma'am marmos smell like a cabbage patch all right hitting him hitting the man in his back all right it says a lot about you demon that was obviously intended by me i miss my bullets i remember when i had them do you though really see i only got a war the same shortcut here right the weight he just walked back just super fast look backwards just like what so i'm skipping ahead to one particular super chat here that just came in you're assembling an evil army who do you choose to lead them phasma or lirts also high rags uh hi lirts why would that like i don't understand why that's a question what's the point of that what does lirts like fail at with a bit of phasma that she doesn't notice good at fighting is aragorn because like okay well that rules out a lot of people then he did a hell of a lot better than phasma would do even with her gun she'd fuck it up she got stock ill-based destroyed you know she sucks no loyalties whatsoever not really meanwhile died for what he believed in yeah lirts is my kind of bro i would i would have a be with at least nazi's rapists and lirts lirts died for what they believed in the implication being like the rapists and the nazi's are dying in their operations you know rapists raping is a tough job like it gets you in trouble we all agree on that i think so yeah yeah sorry let's go lirts killed a main character he's better you don't even need to cite that you just don't cite it again do it it was cited so great heights in games do you get that weird feeling in your tummy and your balls retract me too no my balls are fine fine depends some games can give me a little sense of like that weird quasi vertigo vertigo kind of feeling um every once in a while i'd get it with battlefield when i'm in a jet sometimes you'd sort of get it uh sometimes in battlefield one when i'm in a plane is like a gunner or something and the plane's moving around and i'm looking down at stuff sometimes i'll get it then um yeah it happens every once in a while it's pretty it's not very common though because i've played so many games for so long i guess my brain's just used to it but um yeah it can happen it's possible also i'm a really incandescent candidate is when i started playing vr and i jumped off a ledge for the first time that was kind of weird oh yeah i can imagine you get used to it but man first i was like oh no no legs it's not real stop it legs stop it's time to stop you are you who are you dude guys it's not even that long now bat one on season two yo uh all right patrick quick one-on-one don't propose a question if you don't intend to answer it or even try to uh i'm okay with people asking hypotheticals i think that's fine don't you think that's fine rags i think it's great hypotheticals are poggers they are the coolest then again wait what is the wait i think i think i fucked up i've had a little bit of alcohol now what is it when you when you ask what is it called when you ask a thing that's not intended to be answered there's a way for that right rhetorical question that's the one i mixed that up with hypothetical my bad i think rhetorical questions are also okay there i said a question no no not the tarred question i didn't say tarred question set it again mom who are you did you don't like the tarts buy with insight make trades with messengers using insight what do i usually buy from these guys i don't remember yums come yum me sir i come yum okay let's see wouldn't it be cool if they did deliver that kind of efab fan service on the next star wars movie and have jar jar say come yum we don't have to forget the past patrick let the past die killer if you have to from the movie patrick is praising i've already i know the um uh the response to that the the tlj fans will say that um kill the past was not the correct message and tlj tlj is trying to prove that that message is faulty it's not the point of the film the point of the film is to address that oh i would i wonder how they've arrived at why that's not the thing but other things are and if they go to well the execution of the themes like oh so the execution of the theme does matter interesting very interesting i don't remember where i'm going anymore mel help so the backwards no he just screams in that song forever i am you shouldn't stab someone when they're climbing a ladder that's really fucked up i know right i didn't deal as much damage as i hope i would i know i'm very upset oh fuck my dad i'm not dead you know what school shooters think the same thing oh well how hard can one soy boy suck off disney really fucking hard yeah yeah i don't see why there'd be any limit to the suck offery so yeah i'm glad that question was answered you know like how hard can they suck they can suck very hard they put in all of the effort to suck a very hard this feels safe there's no if any more oh good i got a madman's new ledge cool cool that means i'm winning um i guess i want to go there again not feeling safe gonna be completely honest how do i mm mel i don't know about this meh oh wow what do you want from me meh oh i feel like it's just safe i'm sorry i did it high five chat we did it bloody messenger head bandage that was not worth it that's your opinion that was not worth it aloeen is better i'm sure the dawn agrees oh that would be the question wouldn't it does the dawn agree what does the dawn think what does the dawn think meh meh meh meh meh meh isn't that how that goes oh no wait am i supposed to just drop down that looks like it could kill me this can't it be how you do it i guess it is what oh no they're all screaming stop it slut you're being very loud uh oh poisoning go off dragon i'm gaming pretty fortunate this is just a test yeah that's none of this is canon guys everything you see non-canon no i will not apply an antidote that is the cuck way to do it i do it twice even more than that you double cucked i'm a triple cuck actually yeah wow okay all right all right all right what likes bligh yes the dawn things were wonder woman that you're very thoughtful good wait who likes play the dawn oh the dawn would love bligh gumbo he would come down from the heavens to simply tell us hey you should watch bligh again sometime we're like okay great my cool blue i'll be right back okay okay doggie doggie dollar shave club more like shaving blade five o'clock shadow legends well he turns like that no oh temporary stone of the blue do you know the way follow me i'll know the way are there any creatures of dubious origin in these areas i should hope that he do not touch it i'm cucked for hades jeffan fucking tastic i like hades that's a good game oh i meant the character that's a good game the character is a good game oh i meant the person person is a good character game all right that makes enough sense yeah i'll see i you can use the inside for uh that shop up here the other one oh yeah i i went up there and i was like what do i remember spending my insight i don't remember like when i play this game but carmen what i would spend it on do you know what ends up in that shop that's good i think normally there's some weapons you can get here i think the moon you get the moon like red sword in here or the kirk hammer one of those who is this kirk guy uh i think you can you might be able to buy some of these garbs and you know i'm kind of excited to do this race now with fringy because he's probably gonna bite off more than he can chew you know he yeah for what you told me he sounded very confident either either he will blast through it and surprise us all or he will be he wanted to kill himself which is fine either way i first tried every boss encounter so far which surprises me personally when you came over here and i was streaming on twitch you tried to kill the blast obvious and you died like four times oh yeah yeah yeah oh man that was fun most of us around came over and nobody knew yeah hey chat let's we'll tell you the funny story that was that okay so back when i streamed on twitch it'd be full full camera and as much as five hours per day i think was like the average and um and nobody knew the metal was coming over here for the first time nobody knew and he also streamed as he's doing right now on twitch so it was this whole like thing that we kept secret only only myself smiler metal knew and then one night i was just streaming i played blood born and mel's sitting next to me but out of frame for about no or something yeah it was to the implicate it was to tell like my viewers was the implication was just just a normal day of streaming it's fine and i was like oh i'm just gonna go to toilet quick and i get out of my seat and then like ten minutes later bell just sits down and treats it as his stream this is like hey it's like wait what the fuck like yeah i don't think we ever highlighted it did we there's no highlight of it no and i think did we not highlight that it's actually lost to the twitch demon archives it was uh it was awesome it was funny and i think jennahar vin bio they probably were all there oh yeah yeah yeah there were a bunch of pork champs oh yes uh and yeah it wasn't addressed for it wasn't it like people just like what the fucking you were like why people saying what the fuck it was what's up yeah i'm just i'm back what yeah it was a toilet what the hell fucking weirdos it was fun on the buttered bun i like butter uh well i guess a cathedral ward and then we go the other way wait did you kill bloodstuff bitch yeah it didn't be the i haven't even met them yet i'm so far behind because that's stupid hunter yeah man it's gonna be real tension filled when i get to that thing on the real race the real steel music in this game brilliant yeah it's pretty good yes mr loke may be a halloweenie but the dawn is a chris noid i'll take all on i'm sorry i've spoken to the dawn he likes halloween more he just does what can i say haven't heard chris night before i like that hey don't don't hit me i'll hit you back i'm still riding on a high about mullin knowing darkness falls back in the ep 50 best horror twist on a fairy tale knowing it i knew it back in the soma videos which is before evap it's referenced even earlier early one morning just as the sun was rising it's fucking scary yeah there's so much fucking damage with their kicks yes they do those guys are fucking annoying but um you're gonna want to get killed by them eventually right because they take you to the other place uh yeah that's when you go down the thing he's still alive jesus christ for the grandma die that wasn't worth it was it no it wasn't oh wait i can upgrade my gun though could i need less don't shard anymore i need to twin shards you gotta see if i can finish it well see if you can i'm probably taking this one class i had a couple of drinks all the week all the week the werewolf was powerful at one point but now cheesy beach who was that from it's from ludendorff now ludendorff you're fucking whore hegelheim elsewhere please you're having a war meeting ludendorff enough i don't know if you've noticed ludendorff but there's a war going on there's a war remember how the german high commander like we don't want our men dying and then the british high commander like lol men die fuck so just die and war that's what they're meant we take slaves but we don't want anyone to die like jeez yeah fucking weirdo slavery makes sense death less so they can't be slaves if they're dead that's life 101 right there we're not we're germans we're not stupid i mean they lost world war one and two rags how smart can they be yeah how smart can they be really who goes oh into in global conflicts yeah cringe bro of course we can do three fronts at once oh no he's sucking me the big meme was that they couldn't do it at the same time it's like hello prank it was just a prank ludendorff in his pranks ludendorff enough of your pranks enough of your pranks this is the last of whoopie cushion in the ballroom listen we will accept people listening to this right now before it's reuploaded to mula because by then it'll be out right oh yeah that's right they don't have any context but you guys are going exclusive we want ludendorff enough to be a meme okay ludendorff enough it's it's this moment in wonder woman that is so precious and valuable it's it's it's just it's when the german high command have had enough of ludendorff okay which we've all been there ludendorff is annoying he keeps talking couldn't even have used a high quality whoopie cushion you used a cheap discount for the bag wait rich abbins was in the the right german high command over one yes that's great no i finally have the shield it's this beautiful moment in wonder woman where ludendorff is just he's just being himself he's rattling off he's saying all this bullshit german high commands finally had enough they snap and they say ludendorff actually no wait i'll play it oh my god while my character fires a gun randomly because the playstation oh no okay here you go oh my god ludendorff enough that ludendorff man he's just that ludendorff man it's canon oh hey ringy we decided we would stream without you and just test okay all we're doing is testing you should join us and begin your stream and simply test in prep for the beginning of the race the true race which i guess would be tomorrow is the best time if everyone can do it okay so i guess um i'm gonna have to figure out because like it is i woke up quite late today so i'm it's just waking up early tomorrow to make sure it happens i'm gonna answer man today is not gonna be a long day i'm sure that way uh excellent ludendorff turn in your gewehr und your abseichen yeah so what i'll do right now is i'll just um because i gotta reinstall one one i'm pretty sure hannigan installed it and uh get me all the hunters deal there is not that much space on ps4 i don't know what you're talking about the console general the console world is a wonderful gaming system that's all i have to say about that well what do you mean with how terrible it looks in the low frame rate surely it doesn't take a better space what do you mean surely its floors are not so plentiful uh and i mean you know it's uh good timing as well because my crash playthrough i think i'm done last night i was getting a cramp trying to do the time trial so i'm just glad you're alive yeah yeah well i did uh i did so in terms of the update i've got every gem which is about four hundred and sixty i think i uh i got all of the perfect run totems which to get that means you can't die in the level and you have to get all those crates funnily enough i watched the video of it today so i know what you're talking about i've got i've given some of that but i'm gonna throw that on for you know just reference i think i'll i think i'll take from all those advice and just swatch some of these videos and um and yeah and i got all of the uh flashback tapes platinum so the only thing that i haven't done is all of the time trials and like i legitimately don't know if i want to do that because i'm not i'm not cool with getting purple tunnel playing a video game i don't think i think uh no step the platinum ones or the death star times oh so the platinum relics uh when you the time trials but the hardest level so that's like the absolute quickest and the only way that you can do that is by either spin dashing over and over and over and over again which means you have to press square circle square circle square circle over and over and over again or if you can time those um triple spins whatever you can do that and i've tried i really tried and i can't do it um and i don't know how much i want to push myself to do it to get one i don't know that it's worth it um so i think the crossroads amount right now is what i think i should do is just get all of the gold time trial tokens because i don't think that will take me too long i think i can do that fairly easily but i don't think i'm gonna push myself to do platinum all right um in which case that means i'm done basically with this playthrough and i can finally start making this video um i'm very happy about that to roll down here and have you consider have you considered instead maybe like a 10 minute long unscripted rant with trailer footage in the back no well i mean you know you could bump that out and like it well and i was about to say a day but that's basically one for one in terms of content you know output input so you'd like if someone just clipped half of the fucking should we say on these streams they couldn't make that video without even having been the person just take it out attach the trailer done though i will make fringies review of this game based on just a bunch of clips i've been talking about i got a donation with a question for raggleton hello raggleton heard from the previous episode you reside in arkansas was looking at arkansas as a possible place to live if i stayed in the u.s but her little rocks that's massive tisms hey that's not mel's fault let's pronunciation i fault so i live in north little rock which is the same but different um i i like living here i have no reason to move it's it's got all the things that a you know that a that a city would have a small like city would have it's well spaced out it's cheap um people are nice the weather is it's a bit a bit of everything um but uh i i like it i i do enjoy i do enjoy being here um if i was gonna move it probably be to like texas or arizona um arizona is a very i love the climate it's a very gun-friendly state um texas does not have income tax which is oh that's that sounds good i have to check the luten dorf count of those states to see if there is if there is enough um i'm not sure i never i love this now um so someone asked in chat what's your favorite bad film your favorite film you watch unironically but admit is bad oh is that you asking that in general you're gonna answer it uh well they they act smaller and rags so with the other two of us i guess this was well this was this was before you arrived actually i just haven't frozen in chat i scrolled up for it but um that is a good question i don't know uh van helsing is probably up there it's so a really bad movie that you unironically uh yeah uh the postal movie it might be resident evil retribution as well it's up there uh this is one of those ones that's like just remind me because i've completely forgotten what all of them are because there's loads of them uh what have we done in e-fat movies death wish no not death wish death what's the stupid movie we watched first death wish upon that's it wish upon wish upon i love wish upon i'll admit the ratio of entertainment in that one isn't as strong as others though i see like you have to wait a little for like the best payoff but there's some really good ones in it unlike batman and robin which is a constant roller coaster for most funnies probably i think just like this i always get wow crime more shut up you get all right i can never remember how to do this you're gonna you're gonna stream fringy you should do a little like you should chill with us and just play it for a little bit tonight just chill you know just just oh i'm dead uh yeah um man the awkwardness of just not having pressed x fast enough and i'm just dead i want to go to the workshop i think i just lost 10k souls as well but this is my fake run so i don't care wow british army be like lol i think i just lost 10k souls if you're on the cathedral war does that mean you have to fight that crazy dude michelash no that saves away oh that's that's all god don't remind me i don't want to do the best boss in all of souls born michelash i remember watching this video was it metal or was it portillo i think it was portillo oh my god you just fucking pushed me up portillo was willing to just drop the whole fucking game thanks to michelash like that that tested his patience did you ever fight michelash fringy i don't think i did like i said i played the game for a while but i'm pretty sure i didn't get that far into it no i think i only think you hope oh well you're doing this race i think i'll do better this time because i played dark souls three and i beat that so i think i'm maybe go a bit more aware of what and but everybody was judging me like when i was playing dark souls three they're like oh you don't know what this is it's like yeah i don't and i'm still winning well okay see that we'll we'll all hit go like at the same time tomorrow and then and then it'll just be off to the races you know whoever it'll be such a fair race you have no idea so my reference what is your preferred time to do this as early as you can wake up is gonna be a fair race like the elves um i'm kind of asking for a time yeah i'm saying as early as you can wake up i don't know why what what do you think i would prefer like okay as early as i can wake up uh jesus all right jesus that's nothing to yeah i don't see why you're bringing this in like dude come on now there we go non-religious dreams i slept for a very long time today so i'm gonna sleep for very little tomorrow it's trying to get up early for this yeah uh actually i'll be back in like five ten minutes maybe ten or twenty one do you just have no sense with babies texas is great and cheap stay away from austin whatever you stay away from my yeah i heard that's the crazy lefty city of uh but yeah so yeah i'm probably gonna stay away from austin um my sister has a boyfriend who lives somewhat nearish and he lives in uh plano um and my sister's been visiting him here and there so if it works out between them it might give me an excuse to move to somewhere in texas to be closer to her just just so i'll have some family close by um and it's not too far away from you know for folks and everything here so basically i'm i'm wishing the relationship success of my family members based on purely um selfish no first time he beat me second time look how much health i've taken off him and we've been fighting for about 50 seconds oh yeah you can fuck him up with the playa paper holy shit fight over fuck him up with ludendor bloodstaff beast enough you could have beaten me even faster if you were thrown the punch and cocktails at the wall because then i don't know that that would have been faster honestly i got really lucky with uh yeah i just saw you annihilate him okay can you summon in this race no no no summon and if ringy does everyone has to call him a simp and then mel can get panped where the dollar first don't sell the dollar for it gives us like 30k echoes all right where were we um halloween halloween dollar shave club we need to get back in time right before tross and tell patrick just pretend it's what you wanted this is one hell of a smooth brain take how could patrick be delivering smooth brain takes what do you mean look at all these echoes impossible echoes mel you kind of been overeating on those echoes i'm gonna be honest we came back because they're magically delicious the echo pop challenge by a safety razor the blade never dulls trust me i mean i'm missing one i think all blades on it it's eventually dull i'm sorry blades matter that's my opinion i know i i still stand by it uh are we doing 30 fatality what do we say 30 or 40 oh no no rules on that you can upgrade whatever the fuck you want okay i don't remember how how you did it in um you're probably mixing up like when i i gave the rule set for ds2 to break the game and i did it the whole point of me saying it was if you build like a normal person like you just put points into normal things ds2 just breaks oh yeah yeah no i'm like but hurt age something similar and one of your players here that's what i mean as much as that's true rags you wouldn't think ds2 would be on the level of third age would you you'd be like oh you wouldn't think so the the name dark souls has this kind of yes you know respect and it's got this it's a very venerable sort of this um you watch the the yms stream highlights right sometimes i do sometimes yeah i noticed he did there's one about him talking about dark souls 2 but i've never played yeah there's this part did you ever watch my dark souls 2 series but i can't remember i've watched our i can't remember yeah there's a lot of it um so if you remember there's a portion where page bomber guy says like i i basically show and he does the the world folds in on itself in terms of the map because the creators couldn't be fucked and they were just like nah we want this big room here it's like but that crosses over without other big rooms like well we won't load it it's like okay that's the solution and so lots of the world falls all over itself and um the best one that everyone always references is you go into like this poison cavernous place you get to a windmill at the top of the windmills and elevates that takes you above to a medieval castle that has a swamp of lava around it like wait how did i go above the windmill to a castle that's got lava around it and like that doesn't make any sense does it say no um and of course page bomber guy's excuse for this was it's designed that way on purpose it's supposed to be nonsense oh because the world is falling apart at ds2 and that he said the famous it's complete in its incompleteness and uh it was funny what i saw this clip of why i was talking about how uh so it was like are you gonna uh wouldn't like possibly piss off um h bomber guy to like be shitting all over uh ds2 and potentially his video whatever and he was like oh i don't think he would take it that badly it's like isn't that the whole point of his video was to shit on mathematosis his perspective on ds2 and he was like yeah oh and he was like i hope he doesn't but honestly why the fuck would you argue something broken is broken on purpose like it's just and like in in some context that could probably work but uh certainly not the one we're fucking talking about it just to me it comes across as when you're desperate to defend the thing you're like you don't understand it's supposed to be broken like oh well then also i actually can't remember what i'm supposed to do next i'm just gonna kind of wander around i can tell you oh my god you could tell me yeah you go to the cathedral ward and then go right at the stairs and then you go to this weird tower thingy and go down wow you cheated by telling me well fuck you then don't go to the dead the mullet doesn't know about virginity wow wait what no i wouldn't know anything about it i just like what the fuck yeah i've spent too long i um reminder that the us military will pay for your girlfriend's boob job is that true i don't know that's neat right that's just that's that's just the way it should be purpose i'm a genius oh mate i think you're missing remember the meme guile's theme uh goes really thing i do remember that meme i think everyone does it wasn't like a really good one with the prince of valera uh in trim music it was pretty banging let's remember that that's all that's all i have to say are you done mel are you done i just said i'm done you just disturbed both my stream your stream and the stream that rags does not even have nor free does have but they were disturbed anyway in spirit you disturbed it away from ever happening oh my god i'm so sorry i just started time they reload these guns way too fucking fast it's ridiculous punching slow oh oh oh wait oh wait oh wait stop it like a wait wait you want hmm also i should specify that they only pay for the surgery not the implants huh thick cold all right well that's a strange sort of there must be some kind of thing in a contract somewhere that just those things were sort of slipped in and everyone was like that counts it's like that counts okay uh um thoughts on bojack's stupid piece of shit episode oh you have to remind me which one that is yeah no that's apparently the name of the episode but good meme regardless uh thank i've never seen it i just wanted to i'm just trying to once um is anyone able to write that down uh right will you remember what what thoughts on the stupid piece of shit episode from bojack wasn't when fringy gets back he might know what it is it's pretty easy to remember right stupid shit i might even remember that i don't know come on baby oh yeah we're gonna fucking tanky these guys are stupid mind suckers oh those ones yeah they got the big health no they didn't do the stun the stuntism so oh i have enough twin blood trials to upgrade my florms twin blood shorts i'm gonna touch my florms and then they get better all right it's fair uh do do you see what i had to do to get past that one past the sensors uh yeah you have to separate a whole bunch of words with spaces that's not so bad oh there was a couple of alternatives yeah well we're glad that you that you take the effort a based fringy with the bojack take green man good there are people out there who also think bojack's terrible that's neat hello there fellow people of the world oh hi hello yay um i was promised hot takes this episode not cold ones i i so push back on the whole like if someone said it was a cold take now to say that boy season two is bad it's like it wasn't though it really wasn't yeah a lot of people really liked it because they're dumb wow right that's the only reason it can't be that they would simply mistaken they were taken up by butcher and his manly beard they can't just be that oh he could diabolical so funny when he says diabolical it's not though it's cringe i see him saying diabolical the same way i see boba fat fucking flying with his jetpack it's like yep they did the thing yep that's what he does he's doing the thing he does you know what else is like it but he didn't do it that much this season honestly is uh mando saying this is the way but this is the way that he says this he didn't say that much did he honestly i guess it's because he doesn't know what the way is anymore he's lost he doesn't know the way that he's just they wouldn't off there's the way it out out of the way enough why all you said was enough that's the meme you gotta improve on the meme mel you know this yeah that's it is more say more be funnier more i'm finding a big boy right now i can i'm not listening to you and your toxicness of the now so i'm toxic but rags is chill okay i'm very chill that's what it says in the script and i don't dare to say otherwise yeah i was gonna say why did you write me to say rags is like implying you're not chill rags you fucking approve this shit yeah i got him now yeah no answer jeez you were stunned stunned in total silence it's like our insolence um that uh the send the st back to the past and kids will love it only makes sense if the ot was children's content but it wasn't even tpm isn't only that um well people always use the quote with him saying uh it's for kids i think children just says at some point i'd imagine the the spirit of what he's saying is that it's um accessible to children like but the phantom menace is especially for kids let's no it's let's just say it's especially accessible but most of the kids that's but yeah it the phantom menace is very clearly built with kids in mind he cucked me out of my backstab it is very kid-friendly you have to earn your backstab loot and off i did that's chopped in half it's like oh okay and i guess i which would you rather perform mouth to groin on kathleen kennedy or cut off your long arm why the fuck perform mouth to groin i'm sorry i'm not losing my arm yeah i'm not losing my arm i fucked that shit i'd lose both my legs before i lost an arm i i seriously value the arm in the hand like it's it's really cool but if you guys looked at law about hands they do lots of things you may experience such a thing too i don't want to be hand to solo handless solo i think i could have fallen the other way and you would you get something right well we'll do that when we get back to cathedral ward cathedral ward i guarantee you mathematical says cathedral ward cathedral cathedral ward cathedral ward cathedral ward cathedral ward where the fuck did he go that traitor oh traitor traitor remember that line that is never fucking banked upon ever again i'm not even sure why they had it but kylo like is annoyed is furious thin for having gone against the empire slash this order like this idea that he's like i fucking hate you because you betrayed us and we are the correct team that never comes up ever again that's because kylo is a very complex character uh complex is a word you could use very but what if you get a cyberpunk arm as a replacement i don't know it seems like it would be a buggy arm so i don't want that one if the arm was theoretically if the arm was actually better than my normal one no i'd still value the organic original but i wouldn't feel bad about getting a replacement yeah i'm sure we get used to it pretty quick i would be worried if someone was like do you want to trade it out right now go probably not i don't know what negatives could come with having a mechanical arm oh shit right there's like two or three hunters down here yeah fuck those guys i did mention that i was listening because you're dumbo wow like you know game that's part of the game as i am so your opinion is worthless to me come at me weird man don't come at him no i wasn't ready i wasn't ready i wasn't ready i wasn't ready okay now come at me there you go now i'm ready see that was fair because i was ready oh my god that is a lot of damage oh he's so mad at me oh yeah whoa you can throw fire oh my god that is so cool fire oh parried bitch uh moeller oh wait i ran i never got into bjh bojack horseman the writing came off as lazy contrived and forced oh my god my kind of people huh uh same thing happened to me fringy i told everyone i watched bojack they did they love it i watched it again now i hate the show and everyone i know loves it because of me what have i done oh my god i got sniped you're gonna carry that way oh shit i've already forgotten what was the name of the episode i was gonna remind fringy of something something to do with bullshit right stupid you know what i wrote it down in in the chat it's the stupid piece of shit episode yay if you're gonna have drama you need to commit come it oh i guess that's in relation to you can't have like comedic bits in the middle of your drama that actually act as like foundational points in making the drama happen uh that are like contradicting played for laughs but also matter in terms of like the major thing i think that's something we definitely talked about when we when we went over it you know um hi rags have you heard of rubies rebalanced reach it's a good mod made for halo reach campaign on mcc that improves the weapon balancing um i think i might have um i think i think i might have i might not know the name of it but there are some mods that i've been linked and shown so it's very possible i have indeed heard of it and i probably approve of it i think that's gonna be the other way it makes you wonder how these these mods that are so you know big like that it makes you wonder how the designers didn't just make their game where you didn't need that but uh hey um uh well how do we apply the runes do you have to unlock that uh oh the runes that's a good question i think you know what i'm having a brainwave i think that's the which is the which is the last yes you have to kill the witches to do that yeah correct you're correct um and the second half of that is that ruby has a 20 minute video on youtube of blue going over the changes as well as mods for the other halos on mcc ash tag wombo yell it if you have to wombo wombo wombo well you got so many different wombo's there super chat i'm sure that was what you were looking for fantastic madman's knowledge oh no it pulled me well this is gonna be a real good fight no doggos stop it actually going and i got booped on the snoot and i was probably going the wrong direction as well because i'm very very smart now it's poorly timed and you are right these guys hurt oh that was well timed yes oh i got all my health back dude when you get the parry and they've hit you and you just restore all of your health because of the move that is some satisfactory oh my god i did it again you're doing it too much stop it or it will come back to haunt you oh my god this poor guy got fucking bullied by me do these fucking code guys they're like a million poise well that's not enough i think it is quite enough not hit me with the axe it is very out of view as an american women with guns gets my shawty pumping hey do you like women with guns rags does that get your shawty pumping yeah women with guns are good i like a strong woman i don't want a useless woman who can't defend herself and is weak and do you like women who have tiaras that can cut through paintings yes what's gonna say that is right up my alley too wow not the back alley though well so i'm pretty sure for you went to bed i'm just gonna be back at five to ten maybe he's gonna like sleep for really long and then uh once he wakes back up it'll be the next day that's his plan fringledore kind of that so me tomorrow will probably be a short night because i'm gonna watch the life wrestling with fooder what day when does that happen oh like 8 a.m in the next day oh you're saying you have to get up early for that yeah so i probably won't be sleeping at all and just i don't reset my sleep schedule or something we'll see oh okay okay i always say that but it never works so probably be fucked on Tuesday whatever home office yeah yeah a short night for a short peen how fitting shut up just fight goo at me better look short at this time you can't force me all right ari bojack gun episode reminds me of the claim that the nra would stop supporting 2a if black people got ccw permits history of nra literally shows opposite um that episode posits that america kids more about having access to guns no there hasn't kids more about women losing their rights than having access to guns that was the funny funny it hates women more than like it loves guns it loves guns there's no hate women remember that's the that's the fucking big-ass brain take is that america hates women i knew it i knew it too very clever show i've been telling you all so long you finally listened yeah cuz uh oh ask fringy about the episode there you go what thoughts on on what episode of what dr who told no that's my phone hold on i'll be back oh he's cocking us hard today ring gold how could he have gold in his name when he doesn't even support being a golden person like oh no my head fell off i can't play the game yeah what excuses are we gonna get tomorrow guys i don't even know numbing mist also known as crushed up and expelled a row hypnol whoa no i was talking about numbing this different thing for rape i mean theoretically one one could use such apparatus to their favor in such endeavors that is simply not what i was aiming to achieve with such statementage achieve the coup that's what people say right statementage sure i've heard rags say the word statementage so many times um is it too early to get captured by this guy i can't remember uh i think the one that needs to capture you is the one after the beast guy just to kill kill the boss first sorry i'm sorry maybe i i think you i don't know i'm going for the witches next show what are they called the witches of hemwick is it yes is that a reference to the witches of eastwick i don't know what are the west wick ones the witches have come no no not come down put down the come coming on the yams wow fucking stunlocked him as a field game you do it to me all the time i remember one of them wasn't eights wait when was that yesterday remember oh no i don't remember yesterday y'all don't remember shit that's because of big dombo that he's through some don't spring please i can't get like a five chats have mercy you don't have to that was the one fucking thing we told him to do and he couldn't do it this kind of shit outrageous happen um guys i'm gonna need everyone to give their best eans also metal pavlov ttt stream when no what is an in isn't that like a meme from somewhere i don't know yeah but eam is is e a n and they said give us your best eam i don't know what that is i think you got a super i think you got a super chat like that before they're just getting greedy with the eans well until they explain what it is one of my supposed though say ean or something i don't know they're supposed to i'm confused i don't make yeah what was the question again the oh look who came crawling back what through a hole in the wall covered in dirt wait why why are you so specific about that what that's a symptom reference oh yeah because they're like they literally crawl back yeah yeah home that literally crawls back and and um oh because they make a system where they have to crawl to get into the room i remember right yeah isn't there a homework bone equivalent in this metal i can't find it uh yes i don't know if i have one i guess i don't have one but again my question was was thoughts on which episode of dr hoot uh bojack bolt hunter smart oh oh the uh what the um the gun control one no it was which was the episode ranks stupid rags on the gun control one rags definitely so the gun control fucking listen gun but okay now shut up and listen to what rags says okay ready rags go right fringy what do you uh what are your thoughts on the stupid piece of shit episode the problem is again i'd be like which one oh that's what our response was i was hoping you yeah i'm guessing it was the gun control one episode of bojack though right yeah yeah to be clear yeah probably the gun control one wait if that's the gun control one we talked about it on that stream so i don't know why they'd be asking us for that we're good unless well there was what about was it bojack the feminist that was another one that was really stupid yeah um it's definitely not the penultimate episode because that's like the only good one i mean well in that case if it's the gun one we've already said it's really bad oh wait no i've seen two i've seen two episodes of bojack oh shit which was the other one you saw the feminist one maybe no i i saw um the gun control one and the one was moms and the um i think those are the same episode or deficit yeah yeah or he like recreate the show um i think that was the same episode oh all right yeah that was like the a plot and the b plot was a gun stuff that's a lot so yeah you've always been one will then oh just some more less ready posed without your wombo oh that's one let's chill oh i uh i posted on the subreddix as annoyed uh rags show me a comment that was on the latest episode of efeb well that was like um is it in our conversations can you read it out rags let me see um uh yes i see it here it is step away from the microphone a bit that was loud oh sorry it's red it's not the one one that one was really dumb and i responded to it in the video oh yeah it's not wonder woman is it well keyword would be lazy oh yeah i'm pretty sure it is let me see what the original comment was efeb is lazy content with nine people agreeing yeah um again just for your guys reference because i know this because i talk to these guys regularly it's a lot of work it's a lot of work that doesn't come through oh it's not it's not immediately obvious the work that's gets put into a lot of this stuff but it's a lot of work i mean do you think e fat movies are like edited in a day because it takes longer than that at least one or like i mean that would be real quick like yeah it's um takes a lot of work i think though i do get this impression in general though like this perception that like um that there isn't as much work that gets put into something as i think people realize i mean one of the big things is like actually getting references from other movies and like other tv shows and making sure it's all in order and getting all the footage together that does take time because you need to actually watch the content yeah like fringy spent how many hours in this game to make his video yeah it's it's i started this playthrough on the 10th of december and it is now january and i'm basically nearly done nearly i'm not done yet so but that won't be counted at work because it's like well you were playing the game it's like yeah but you understand like i needed to play it to make this video and it wasn't fun a lot of the time it stopped being fun a while ago but that's the work you gotta put in when you have to do anything longer than you would have otherwise done it it isn't it is now officially work yeah i think i think that's a good way of describing it yeah everyone everyone likes to jump to like work is one definition if it doesn't fit it it's out instead of being like work is complicated as a set like the idea that i have to watch i watch a film five times before fully being happy with with the my references on it stuff it's like none of that was work it's like i mean when you get to the point where you pause each scene and you go through rewind each dialogue piece and make sure you've got it right thank you god like the cross-reference with another scene it's like yeah but you're just watching films you're like i kind of hate you like just a little bit um so yeah uh i'm from doc solds two like come on yeah they said like oh i get the you get a lot of super chats but it'd be nice if you stop being lazy it triggered me quite a bit um it wouldn't have triggered me on its own it triggered me except nine up folks i mean other people think that that's fucking valid and so um one thing i did notice that might have fueled this was uh people were congratulating the editor for the hillhouse video as if they like a good job editor i'm like you do they know it's me i don't know if they know it's me um and obviously all the mando ones took ages and this isn't a shot at anyone whatsoever okay even though the fact that i've said that people will be like this is totally a shot someone um if all of us had watched all of mando we just watched it and then we just did whatever and nothing else has happened it wasn't recorded right or anything and then i'm like hey i'm gonna write up a um a video so it would be probably like 3000 words i guess to make a 20 minute video if i spoke fast enough i think that's my ratio like 5000 no 5000 for half an hour i think of my ratio so let's just say 5000 words um that summarize my main issues with the season and just have a couple of references as to examples and then i uh loop the trailer and then i release that video and i could probably get that done in three days i would say to a to a quality level that i would want with the restriction that it has to be looped trailer and it has to be limited references and that would count as me having covered mandalorian season two to a lot of viewers i think that's bullshit um and that just comes under the semantics of what the word covered means i think the four of us have covered mandalorian season two extensively but but the the minis the eva minis i think a lot of people look at them the same way as they look at the streams they're like oh that's just you you recorded yourselves watching a show and discussing it afterward big what i'd be like wow oh i know that book um yeah so i guess what i was gonna it was just that um been working a lot on moola especially in october november december of this year more work on moola than ever and sometimes people wouldn't have noticed the output has been way more than usual uh yeah not just on streams even but um to balance all of the covering uh the community stuff which we we need to do a meme fab soon oh yeah we do someone just sent me a mail but then having both the boys and mando and then maintaining the movies doing all the resident evil ones which are going to be great when they come out trust me on that one yeah um and yeah and uh i think a lot of people don't i don't know if they just assume that everything on moola is done by someone else um or that what's done on moola is easy like it's just something you could do in a half half hour and that i spend all of my week outside of e-sharp just watching tv and playing games because uh this comes back to a criticism of us like you spend 10 hours of every week doing bullshit it's like i'm sorry how many of how many hours in your week are spent doing nothing like but also moreover like do you think that e-fap is 10 hours of do you think that do you think it needs to be entertaining for that long without breaks i mean there's a reason a lot of other streamers are like you guys go for like 10 11 hours at a time that's insane it's like there's a reason they say that it's not just out of nowhere just fyi but and also yeah like how many people like most people work 40 hour weeks that means like the other 40 hours of their wait well more than 40 hours because weekends too that means like a good 60 to 70 hours of your time you can do whatever you want i don't think people i think i think people often underestimate how much free time they really have like i'm not sure how many people are like that busy you know what i mean and yeah you know people like oh it's like oh yeah though really and a lot of people don't know that um i've hired and then let go many editors because they're like i'll do it and then they start doing it and they're like okay this is too much i don't want to do this and it's like that's fine because it's a lot um the way that because this is like the method right so you have the recording the raw recording let's say we watch a mando episode and then we record a half hour beforehand an hour after hand of of after hand is that something people say how you have the post hand post hand after hand um so you have half an hour before hour after and then just say 50 minutes for recording for whatever reason maybe we paused one so it's just that long um and so raw we get a nice let's just say two and a half hour chunk first pass is knocking out everything that's unnecessary a lot of people to this day are still like i want the raw recordings like no you don't trust me you don't the raw recordings of lemur you just have to watch loads of sequences of us just staring and listening yeah or stuttering or getting a thought out that was half baked and you go on and then we can hide it away from you are we don't and people will ask us why we didn't yeah it goes both ways uh so that's the first pass and it takes ages to chop out all of the bullshit because you have to cut obviously twice for every single gap or every single chunk you want to take out and you end up with a little speckled timeline shove them all together some of them need to be faded in some of them can just hard cut then um uh the correct references is usually what i do next and animations so just animations are a great way of avoiding copyright by the way which is another thing a lot of people don't understand some people are like oh my god the animations they're really repetitive it's like they're not just done for the entertainment factor they're also really helpful that you don't have to just constantly stare at the screen slowly have the tile come in and out it's a nice little breakup um and you know i'm not that's bullshit i can't make as many varied uh animations i don't know how i'm just not that kind of editor but hopefully they're entertaining enough as is i'm having so much fucking trouble on these guys don't know if it's because i'm not concentrating right now i'm gonna i'm gonna say that's why not concentrating well lazy content moment and so that pass can take a long time depending on how many animations there are how many how complex they are so for example just the one where metal points with his finger and one of the mando ones it's like you have to get that reference if it's a png automatically you're in luck but if not you have to obviously make it with the photoshop you have to line it up zoom and time it and then sometimes it can break for whatever reason because computers are wonderful and that's all for a like you know three second joke that some people might not even find funny like yay yeah for all the people who just listen and don't look you won't even notice it so that's fun and then do you think that part of the reason why people assume that it's not as much work is because there's almost this subconscious perception that efap is the second tier content and that like the the videos are that's like you know what i mean like the videos are the the real content and like efap is the secondary content well yeah if my main channel if the main channel had never existed and i'd started like doing these sort of like efap movies and everything existed let's say as early as 2010 and so that's all it ever was i think these past few months would have been a time where people would have been like celebrating how much content's coming out rather than saying hey man pretty lazy but what are you gonna do um yeah and then there's a pass one yeah that's the thing that guy he had some ideas some really good ideas i don't even know what his name was someone said i want to see the wrong so i can see rags asserting his dominance and crushing all the guests opinions with his back and i'm done i didn't even know that was someone else so someone said efap is second tier frigate yeah but the point i'm trying to get across is like a lot of effort gets put into efap which is considered the second tier thing more so than some people put into the entirety of their like output there's a reason people say it's all relative efap is second tier compared to for example rags and i's primary videos sure is efap second tier to your average movie coverage i don't think so yeah our efap is way better than the primary stuff most people make is basically what we're that yeah i was kind of edging toward that but you know some might call that vanity i'm gonna take us home with that one yeah so i think that might be a problem with my ps4 because i keep turning it on and shuts off after like two minutes oh no take the plug out the back put it back in yeah i i did and then it starts up again and then it does the same thing um so huh well i guess it's a good that's a good enough reason as any to stop my crash fall play through and break my ps4 house speaking of crash what about tomorrow from the i don't know i'm gonna keep i'm gonna keep trying to uh get it so rags we got a streamer um oh yeah i think i do yeah i do i'm gonna i'm gonna be honest not a fan of this boss oh this was terrible um but i didn't get to show rags why i just got killed unfortunately i'm just getting comfortable i will show you why rang or at least i'll be more specific why next time i just watched you get like triple cc'd there yeah it's really fun playing shit if you're a developer never do that if if you have something that knocks if you have something that takes control away from the player which you don't have to ever do by the way that's not something you ever have to do you chose to put that in when you make someone vulnerable like that and there's nothing they can do don't continue to hit them over and over because that's fucking dumb there's literally nothing you could have done is like well don't get hit by the first one it's like well they just didn't just have the first one insta kill you that's what's gonna happen in which you know what's funny about you saying that is it highlights the issue then because they'd be like well no we don't want insta kills and it's like that's what that is though or at least it can be that is effectively what it is yeah in fact i had let me post this i actually made this um the other day because as much as i love guild wars 2 arena net likes to i think sometimes they confuse difficulty with let's just keep cc'ing players over and over again constantly and nobody likes it and they hate it and people will go out of their way to avoid content in the game where there's annoying fights constantly getting knocked down and stunned over and over again someone in chat said stay behind the legs like where do you think i was going why would i stay in front like come on and um yeah so this this boss ranks is one of many in bloodborne that it's too it's too stuff there's just too much stuff and those tail things playing off it and so not only does the fps suffer uh no one here is bad as the cthulhu stand in monster make out its shape yeah this is a great great vision i've got here because of enemies super loud right she's ringing give me a sec or she does really a lot i i look at it comes to just an insta kill move versus just being stun locked and killed the end result will be the same however gamers will at least consider one extreme difficulty and they'll consider the other one just punishment you do not want to punish you you don't want to have your players feel like they're being punished you want them to feel like oh it's just very difficult um but yeah uh the the screen getting filled with fucking hair um really annoys me and also maybe vicar Amelia as well if you like touch her hands it'll count as a tag and like you'll go oh and it'll like hurt you it doesn't hurt you for much but it's really fucking annoying oh yeah another thing too and a lot of games just because because you are making contact with an enemy doesn't mean this is do it you should be doing damage to you cool hand luke said this boss is tough it's not it's really easy i've just uh all i needed to do in that one moment was have dodged just right so that i didn't take the four hits in a row and then healed and then carried on and this starts to reveal one of my significant issues with bloodborne is that there's barely any good bosses they're all kind of shit yeah uh let's let me just break this out from James here really quickly uh unerodically unerodically fuck those people baller works too hard honestly to make us craft certain people can't listen know how to just to get edgy perfect it's such a huge disservice fuck them i wish i had to go to bed with what he does and we'll take it any day over construction where i'm fasting and placing again because i'm so fucking pissed about it i think that might be part of the other issue right is like no matter how much work it is with a lot of people yeah yeah i finished the thing uh fuck them i'm thinking you don't work more or fuck them you work hard there you go yeah well i was gonna thank you yeah all i was gonna say was that i think that might be the issue right because like no matter how much work it is i think most people would prefer to do this than what they normally do so like because everybody wants to do it or a lot of people want to do it and the fact that it's like a desired job it's almost like well you know if you are working hard like yeah that you should be because this is like way better than what or like you know the fact that you would rather be for as hard as well no i know that's kind of the point i'm getting at like for as hard a work it is you'd rather be in construction or like work a shitty retail retail job or something it's like yeah yeah but still like it's still it's still work yeah but also i wonder if uh i wonder if the issue is that because a lot of people you know like you see boogie often says like yeah i work a hundred hours a week and when you hear stuff like that it's like it almost deflates it for everybody else yes yeah i don't believe him i've all it shows me is that he has they work work also can i just highlight i've beaten amelia i was just spamming i didn't there was no talent in what i just did and look at the fps oh blood born i wish typical you were faster damn it i wish blood born was better than it is i'm sorry yeah i wish it would be on for reference blood born the second phase of ludwig the maria and the orphan of cast all those fights i consider fantastic like top tier as hell yeah these ones though i'm just like let me hack away at the goo until i win so you should try final fantasy 14 i did once and i didn't care for it but also i have too much of an investment into guild wars too in terms of time and knowledge of the mechanics yeah and money i've played it for so long now that i just i i'm not gonna go to another mmo i my the flaws of guild wars too i recognize and they don't bug me that much now and i can work around them a lot of the time and the game is too good and it keeps me coming back and i really enjoy it i've just i've invested too much into guild wars too in terms of time and effort and experience to just go to a new mmo that's how they get sure it's the same look like well i don't think i don't think it's how they get you it's just a natural result of having an investment in a game yeah and plus it's like it's done well that's like good i want them to get me i want them to earn me and guild wars two has earned me um guild wars two is free there was a free variant of it but and there's not a subscription for it if that's what you mean um so i yeah the guild wars two does not have a subscription i'm not i'm never going to play a game that requires a subscription fuck that shit it is a arcade game you're an addict rags i'm not an addict i've just invested a lot of time in this mmo over a long period of time i want to get even better at it yeah the first step is admitting that there's a problem oh yeah that's right the unfalsifiable addiction you're right yeah yeah yeah um infinite it what you're saying shares similarities with the sunk cost fallacy right it's like i've spent so much time on it i may as well continue but you're saying you still have a goal in line i well i'm still what so the idea being like i want to stay with this one because i've spent the most time in it is essentially the sunk cost fallacy it's only it's it's only part of it like the because of the amount of time i've spent a lot of the time because i really enjoy it and because i really like it's not like i don't i i enjoy my time with it i like playing it that's why i have so much time in it okay and as a result of all that time spent playing it i have invested a lot into the account and to the characters in it and my knowledge of how the game plays and being a person who helps others to play and when it comes to mmo's i don't want to do all of that in a different game when i could be doing it in this particular game can ignore the shadows do it fucking stun looking me into the sides as i play reaper necromancer so that's actually my main is a reaper necromancer however i'm quite good at it um and i have and i mostly don't nowadays i don't play that class as much as my other classes now um but that is my most played in terms of sheer time though nowadays i mostly play other classes so you have a problem with the game more without the game no like i just i guess i don't i don't know what's being lost in translation here i mean well because i was gonna say like as a sort of it almost sounded like i was trying to be critical of what you just said but at the same time um if someone was like do you want to cyberpunk 77 27 was another game where i was like i don't know if i want to start except i don't know if i want to jump into something like that um knowing what it was and if you currently got something like that that you're happy in and someone's like hey go play this other one you're like oh man i that's a lot of things so when i was into lull um friends of mine tried to get me into this was going way back here is a new earth and obviously dota and i was just like i don't think i can handle multiple mobas like it's hard enough for me to remember fucking all the all the match on one of them like it it takes time and experience it takes work to get really good at playing a game um it like imagine you had put you like it like if you're a professional basketball player and you've devoted a lot of time and effort to this game that you love and the skills of it and the strategies of it and your ability to play that game and someone says why don't you just play like baseball as long as you're having fun rags that's what yeah a lot of people yeah that's the thing the reason i have all of the time the reason i have all of those things in the game is because i enjoy playing the game if i didn't enjoy it i wouldn't have all of those hours and yeah because the sunk cost fallacy almost always refers to when people like they play like it would happen with friends of mine they play league every single game they would be angry and annoyed maybe like well you know i've unlocked most of the characters you guys play it and i know it really well so i'll continue it's like not a good reason to continue but in that sense like a sunk cost fallacy is generally referenced to be like oh yeah well i will eventually get the payoff right but i get the payoff every time i play the easiest way to uh to sort of penetrate the sunk cost fallacy is just to remind yourself that the time is unrecoverable whatever investment you've done it's gone now anyway so like nothing so because if you think about it that way then you can sort of rationalize oh okay i mean i'm not getting that time back no matter what i do so really whether or not i continue should be based on whether or not it's worth continuing for its own sake not because i spent so long playing at that time's gone anyway yeah it's um it's like someone said i feel like you're calling out someone specific rags no i'm not i'm really if i am if i am if it seems like i'm calling out someone specific uh specific then that is purely coincidental i don't have any person in mind what about what you said sounds like you're going for someone specific i'm confused like well i don't know i guess someone thinks that i'm i guess they're referring they they know of someone who said an argument that's against mine or they're someone's i'm not sure maybe what i said has in some way um yeah um someone said why didn't you get that what race they're all char because char the only interesting race in guild wars two uh is that their criticism well cool as shit and they're great um they're all char because fuck playing a human basic aspects human yeah the noran are just big humans this the asura are rats annoying rats and they and they're the biggest the biggest damage to my uh to my suspension of disbelief in that game are the asura not because of anything cultural within them in the game but because it's a it's an mmo so all of the races are equal and the genders are equal so you could play the game as a game but seeing a little tiny fucking asura with a great sword running around how it doesn't get stomped by anything when you can play as a char or a norn which are super big that that to to my brain is my biggest problem with my suspension of disbelief in that game but that's just me um so it's it's different for everybody some people don't have an issue with it at all oh my god but yeah i didn't know she can do that Jesus oh someone said michael jordan oh yeah that's purely coincidental yeah i i wouldn't even referencing michael jordan though i heard he was not nearly as good of a baseball player as a basketball player so uh that's just what i mean um but yeah uh rags if you can see are you max level in bf1 no actually because max ranking in battlefield one takes a lot of fucking time i have was that before after prestigeing and they told me no max ranking there is no prestige in battlefield one it's just you get you get up to rank 150 is the max rank let me actually check my hours in battlefield one since it came out what do you reckon eyeballing it would be the equivalent to in terms of prestigeing on cod like would it be prestige five equivalent or i i've played cod so little over the years i couldn't even i don't even answer that uh yeah but the problem is i haven't played enough battlefield one to know how much it would be so and also it depends on what call of duty we're talking about here right like we're talking about modern warfare so it's a lot different so like whatever the new ones are yeah i i couldn't tell you hours guys um as an example i have i'm about rank 140 145 147th around that area i have 721 hours in battlefield one um right i think uh i think if you played cod for 721 hours the problem is again like i'm just thinking of modern warfare like yeah if you played modern warfare for 721 hours you probably yeah probably um i don't see why not that's all you're on let's see let me actually i can actually tell you how much there is a there's a site uh which unfortunately i think is going to be going down um but it like it is a oh how long to beat should be going down right yeah i wouldn't know no it's it's the site that like tracks your guild worth time oh i remember um when league sites the third party started tracking and tracing everybody's stats and a friend of mine was like so obsessed with getting good at the game that every time you load into a game he would check everyone's names against that site and then basically be like well i've lost you feel like oh man that's a good attitude to have he was he was the a guy who was incredibly good at video games you'd have loved him rags on on cooler duty he was the kind of shit you pull off in that game would actually like have me wondering if he had um hacks it was incredible he was really good at games but he had an ego that that chased it but the kind of ego that um cost him friends that that kind of ego uh unfortunate though he's uh he was it was a good guy he just uh he couldn't handle it if people on his team were bad even when you were like hey he would be like what a casually play a game of law or call it like sure and then you don't do well and he's like yeah you know what i'm gonna go you're like okay so yeah so of the characters in guild wars to it looks like 40 percent of all characters play humans and they're just the most they're the most basic bitch race that you've ever imagined in a video game why does anybody play humans in any so fucking lame i feel like an alien right now like what i feel like it's it wouldn't be surprising to me that someone want to play as humans human fantasy um no to me like if i have the choice if i have the choice anything else i would absolutely pick no but yeah but the logic is simple it's like for my the sake of my immersion i might want to play a human in this world just so that i can be like my immersion to players that's not what i said for me that is not what i said at all yeah that's not what he said well you said you said that their argument would be well for for the sake of improving my immersion i'd play as a human so my media i didn't say approve i just said for the sake of my immersion sure what does what does that mean then i want you to for the sake of my so um i presume i assume you're on you'd agree with this but i'll say it anyway i assume they're human the person choosing to play this game and thus choosing to play as a human might assist them in their immersion of being in this world rather than going full fantasy yeah i could see why it would for the most part for me it doesn't but i could see why for a lot of people it would um yeah i'm not saying i would do it but i'm just saying if someone did it i'd be like that doesn't surprise me really it's not like for for Gilmore's too it's not particularly that they are human it's just that it's the most basic normal fantasy rare i like this one so you can't expect a frog to understand good memes their their area is it's just so cookie cutter standard i see i'm i'm a little bit different i like i outright find it kind of boring to play as humans in any series where you can play as something else i'd rather yeah but i must myself in a different culture in a different race in a different history rather than like a mass effect gave me the choice i'd absolutely want to play as like a tour and i'd be a krogan yeah krogan would be a really cool but i would pick anything but human probably like also marco cyborg i saw you in there hello and hello all of chat i like doing the whole i i mute and speak to you specifically i want to be something that's exotic or interesting in yeah i think that's i think that i'm but see if i were in a group of people right now saying wait a minute this many people play as non-human that's crazy wouldn't they be playing it's human i'd be like i don't know i could see like a lot of people wanting to play as something other than themselves for the sake of the fantasy you know to me when you choose whatever race you want to play in a fucking thing is like you can come up with all kinds of reasons right i suppose that's true yay we did it we defeated racism again getting kind of boring now i know how many times i have to defeat this zombie oh look it's racism again it's like yeah but let's see um there was a way for me to both not medic hello marionette oh update on my ps4 it might have been overheating so i've unplugged it and now it's just sitting on the floor over there over wait was it like really was it on for a while before you tried it today uh well no i mean i mean when i got into this call i mean i've had it on rest mode but i always assumed that that was that was fine the fact that that's a feature that the console has i mean you know probably more than i do about ps4 functionality is it one of the earlier models did you get at ages ago yeah mine is well i mean mine is as probably like launch or close to it i think because like i said i got mine in january or february so i i suppose what's confusing me is that i've spent the last three weeks playing a copious amount of crash for on it and have had no problems and then i think what might have happened was because i started uh installing a system update and then i left for like 10 minutes and when i came back it wasn't on so maybe uh maybe it didn't finish properly maybe that's causing the issue so that's possible yeah perhaps well i mean i hope it goes okay otherwise mel and i gonna have to just repeat what we did tonight tomorrow for no reason yeah at least if you're there it'll act as something different consider a guy just uh spent money to buy the old hunts is dlc you know what even if you don't play it that's not money wasted much like i just wasted my life by crawling into a hole and dying for no reason for no reason download guild wars 2 i think you have to it's like a one-time purchase right because it was yeah you buy it now there's a free version you i surely if you surely if you google gill i don't want to i don't i'm trying to think of the least condescending way to say this oh no so if you google guild wars 2 surely you'll be able to find out there i think it's on steam now though as well um i uh oh no they they're delaying the steam release because they're focusing on the next expansion um ganks but uh yeah arena they have their own launcher for it arena net does um but i just to check the time talking about investment time my my oldest character wish upon a char uh has 1060 hours on it um stop cocks so mel you did the witches first is it uh yeah i'm going to i always thought that amelia was easy on the witches maybe i don't have that backwards the witches are piss easy i just got stunned by those two enemies holy shit game really do you need characters to go boom boom boom boom boom and i just sit there thanks well do you think bloodborne's a really good game um i think did i i can't remember who i was talking to is it me no i know i i'm i'm mainly asking so that people is i mean i've let it slip before the bloodborne is a game i love but i think is incredibly overrated um bloodborne is fucking frustratingly designed a lot of the time what works in its favor is that it has an awesome world bloodborne has such a cool world yeah i would even go as far as saying it's one of my favorite game worlds of all time it's fucking awesome yeah the um there's so much detail and so much effort went into making this world unbelievable story actually because one of the books i worked on a long time ago was like hugely inspired by bloodborne because i thought the world was so cool even though i barely i even though i didn't even finish the game and didn't understand anything about it like hey it looks cool that's enough it's a cool world if i had a little machine that could just answer any question i would i would ask the i would ask it how many hours i've played minecraft in my life hmm because i because i don't i there's no way for me to possibly track that or even make a guess um because i was thinking about what my most played games are oh they threw a molotov at me when i was in iframes that's handy because since i didn't get the second stagger build worth this year it has surpassed battlefield four as my most played game that i'm sure of do i annihilate vicar amelia not poor vicar i'll see you spam the fire paper easy this is the thing a lot of the bosses in bloodborne i find where i just hack away at them it's like did i win this time it's like you did like cool the only the only thing that really determines my loss is if i was able or unable to have hit triangle you know when i needed to yeah also this is where they give you the passport i think so now i can go back down to the thing i remember more about this game than i thought i would um i just saw a chat now that was too old uh this was super chat um from rocky 13 too too old do you consider speed runners finding exploits objective flaws same question with speed runners finding glitches i would say yeah because um objective flaws how okay so it really depends on what kind of flaw we're talking about here if you sit in a corner and hit left left right right up down jump jump throw grenade in top right of corner and then look to the sky and you fall through the map and win i'd be like who the fuck how what like i'm pretty sure every single game in existence has these flaws you just have to find them yeah but that's still i was nonetheless right so if if we're talking about adherence to a standard in terms of objectivity i would say that a speed runner finding flaws would be objectively good so long as they make the run quite you mean like you think that there there were two things so the question if rag though is like we talk about glitches and shipping flaws in games like cyberpunk and if a if a speedrunner's like oh i found a glitch that destroys all of ocarina of time so let me get a shit game now it is it makes him and it makes it an objectively good speedrun ignore makes speedrun good as how quickly it goes ignore the speedrun element the speedrun elements now we're talking about we're talking about as a game like remove like remove speedrunning from the whole equation ignore that because the spook yeah because i i figured it was important because the super chat specifically mentioned no no freeing he's moved on to a concept now i think the point the question was trying to get at is okay so imagine like if yeah like if a glitch is something that would consider to be a flaw if a really obscure glitch was found by like a speedrunner that makes the game like you know you beat the game effortlessly if you can do it what kind of is that a flaw what kind of flaw is that that's kind of what we're talking yeah the first thing i want to talk about is the accessibility of that flaw and the commonality of it being discovered i suppose because i don't know that like the one i just mentioned right just this this crazy flaw that no one's ever going to be able to find versus you can't even open the front door of the game without falling through the floor sort of thing i guess it's the idea how much does it impede the functionality of the game that would have to be probably the standard we're looking at yeah i'm thinking so because talking about games objectively is a lot more complicated than which is funny because i remember like when total biscuit talked about the conversation he often said that talking about games objectively is actually a lot easier than talking about films because like depends on what category right because um to a degree the uh a lot of people look at stories as like impossible to quantify uh in terms of objectivity as opposed to a mechanics not working not necessarily easy but simple yeah like um perpetually better though i never got to talk to him it would have been awesome yeah stupid demon souls yeah so if you tag me and have demon souls or dark souls in your question i'm gonna know basically nothing about it uh i know they are the dark soul guys here i know about the glitch so the glitch is basically you i think the short version is you need a gold coin uh pop it go back to the to the lady that gives you level ups and then for some reason your luck just torpedoes upwards to like insane levels and then you get the uh show us blues blue something sword which is luck based in scales of luck and you basically wanted everything in the game and that's not a hard trick to do that's a blowball that's a trick no that's a demon souls one from the new from the new one okay because i was actually going to bring up like um it's funny that for those who don't know right in in ds2 there is a healing source called life gems and you can they're very cheap and you stack up to 99 of them if um you kill the tutorial boss i call him the tutorial boss because i can't understand how it could be anything other than that it's right at the beginning is really shit um you need to talk to one person who's near there and she will move to your home world if you will and she will have infinite life gems you to buy off her for very cheap that um essentially make it so you can coast through the entire game and some people referred to that as using an exploit i was like i don't think that's an exploit that's just the game that's the game offers you something and if you take it or notice it exists then uh you know i mean it's hard to categorize all of these very specifically but um yeah there's a significant difference between the one i just said the one metal just said and then the one where it's like you have to do all kinds of crazy bullshit to be able to just instantly complete the game or something um i started to step out for a second to pee because i drink a lot of water through tea um when it comes i will say this on speed uh speed running so i don't like watching speed runs that take advantage of glitches i like watching speed runs where they try to like min max the intended mechanics of the game like what is the best intended playthrough of the game that you could get that doesn't involve you glitching through walls and finding like legitimate bugs and exploits um i like to see like if like a normal like quote unquote normal playthrough of the game just like the the best version of that like i think that thing is no it's i agree but i think that that getting the fastest time is the top priority and when that's the case people will look well that's probably categorized them different that's yeah are there different categories oh yeah oh yeah like there's like a million really yeah so there's a lot of the yeah metal you can yeah go for it no that was all i was saying it's like a million categories for every game like look at just look up all the ocarina of time categories you can do it's nuts there are speed runners that think the same as rags they'll be like i consider you to be a lame speed runner if you never use the game as intended to do what i don't know about names well i said like doesn't have to be one the considerate name um no i i i got you i got you um for me it's not entertaining to what i can appreciate 100 percent the like people being able to use skill to pull off these crazy incredible glitches yeah there's always a skill cap with glitches yeah it's and it's it's not like i don't appreciate the skill that goes into the glitchy ones i just don't find them interesting or entertaining or nearly as interesting or entertaining as someone going through the game as it's intended but with speed running in mind what is the ideal way that i can get through this game as fast as i can using its mechanics as intended yeah and you for me it's usually just a curiosity once i see what the glitch is like someone says i can be portal in 0.3 seconds i'd be like huh okay but that's not entertaining yeah well i mean it'll be entertaining the first time i see it but then i'll be like okay anyway and and plus one of the reasons i find it interesting and entertaining to watch i quote unquote legit speed runs for just to sake of moment later here glitchless um when yeah glitchless is that when you watch that that stuff that you as a normie can apply to your own game yeah it's it's it's very applicable knowledge that you can use i'm not saying you can't apply glitches but like when you're when you want to play the game as like the game it was intended the strategies you can see in that speed run are very good strategies that you can just use and remember and when you play through the game like oh yeah i want to hit that guy first and then i want to hit this guy first and i know that if i'm over here in this corner i could do this stuff you know the just like strategies like battle strategies and tactics that you can apply to your own rags use avarice in a sentence let's see i mean avarice just means greed so the miserly that's a request they just wanted to use it in a sentence yeah yeah just someone to use avarice in a sentence like that the the there's so near and of the castle his avarice knew no bounds um to all what is more important a game with good story but bad gameplay or a game with a bad story but good gameplay i would always go with the latter i think good gameplay is like critical yeah yeah good gameplay is the most important thing that a video game can have yes really a great game has bad gameplay very rare yeah well i mean i mean if i look at my top 10 list of my favorite games it's like some of them are up there because of story but there are not there that have bad gameplay one of them i think the most relevant example would have to be soma a lot of people say the gameplay is bad it's like nope the gameplay is absolutely what's required it reaches the it's not buggy it's relatively layered it it's visible to deliver the story the gameplay functions completely there's nothing wrong with it and the scenario of an incredible story but absolutely broken mechanics is like i don't think that game is getting considered yeah i i i guess that's the idea right is like bad get functional does not mean bad the game is functional but it's not anything more exceptional than that in terms of gameplay that's not bad that's functional um that was a nice little it's it's functional doesn't mean bad see bad is bad and functional as well you can't be wrong when you do that so it's worth it right nailed it i just agree with rags because when you're looking for glitches to exploit the state of how the game is beaten has progression where new strats are always being found well sure what you disagree with me with specifically maybe they don't even think i fully comprehend what your sentence is trying to say uh i guess if i was to ponder on it are they trying to suggest that like when you apply all glitches the game becomes like a different beast and that there are a whole new set of like mechanics almost in terms of just can you play you know glitch blah blah blah blah and it's like yeah i can this is like how fast can you do it and how well can you do it you know i mean if it's turning if you're turning it into a different game then like then that's not the game that i'm playing so could they theoretically make the same argument back to you how much if they made it back to me because if playing the game normally or as it was intended is basically all of the games that i play um i don't glitch games and i don't try to exploit games and some um it's unmean you know in some crazy unintended way um so look at this guy you're spinning around him and he's just keep spinning oh my god he headbutted me it's like stop it rags i wanted to thank you for introducing me to echo since i never would have found it otherwise yeah echo is a little a little gem kind of a little indie gem uh metal should consider streaming that yeah metal it takes a while to kind of get it going because there's a lot of story the story is bait it's an indie game and it definitely has a budget to it um so almost basically all of the story is told through dialogue between the protagonist and in the ai her ai companion london and it's pretty good and pretty interesting and the voice acting i think is really quite good but it takes a while for the game to get going but once it does the mechanics are quite interesting and the level design is pretty good so that would be one you should consider for a stream sometime echo is one of a really excellent game i really enjoy it i saw somebody asked if i can do an onward squids nigger impression um probably not i know all the lines but i'm not sure if that's i feel when they ask for that are they actually looking for like a one-to-one or they're just looking for memes i think they're looking see what the party rick yeah see we're looking for the result of an attempt get to the chopper go get to the chopper i can do like the no to the chopper the tonality consider that a divorce put that cook it down now now put that cookie down everyone see the thing i retweeted i think was last night like it's a scene from gta 5 but it has like an old sports nigger voice over it instead of the n where did the eti just goes like wow i cannot say that word it's not allowable with robo cop and that was really funny it was just lamar but robo cop yeah oh yeah lamar is his name but wait is lamar the protagonist or is that the lamar is uh like franklin's best friend yeah yeah it's the scene where they stand outside when he talks about he's getting all the shit and then he just uh instead of the edward just goes like when he leans in it's fucking hilarious i love it the number of like there are so many good one-liners in commando i am like this remember sully how i promised to kill you last yeah strike major you did i lied oh yeah a lot of people want us to watch that for a ifa movies we will dude um i think i said this on one of a drinker stream i think but like commando impressed me like hell um you i'm assuming you've seen it rags or no commando county film maybe so long ago i can i'm going to paraphrase the movie if that's a fucking thing one can do the uh the premise is like i haven't seen it so long so someone's gonna be like that's not it but just bear with me because i just like the idea i think it's so cool um he's like ex marina whatever uh and he he lives with his daughter in some faraway place and some bad guys want him to do a job for them and so they're gonna kidnap his daughter and hold her like hostage until he does the thing and so this the the film begins with he's unsuccessful in preventing them from stealing her and then like he gets back to his house and there's this guy there who's sitting in his chair and it's in the setup of like the villain will now explain to you like you know like john wick for example that fucking guy who's like oh you made a blood pack he's just sitting in a chair and you're just waiting for him to explain what the hero has to do and as he's explaining it arnie's just looking around out the windows trying to see if he can see where the fucking bad guys are and then like the guy says um it ends with some kind of epic thing where the guy is just like so do we have a deal and then arnie just goes no and shoots him it's fucking awesome i remember when i was a kid i was like oh my god that's amazing are you allowed to do that that was uh that was the right wrong yeah yeah right wrong this would be like arnie it's hard to really quantify specifically what is so incredibly enjoyable about arnie as an actor because there's not just one element like no he's he's really um he's just he's he's got a um he's got a thing whatever that thing is you know how they're like you got it baby that thing you got that panache you got that panache the shazam the flubo goop that gives you to get up and go to take on this business dude um mel i was being uh raped by one of the witches of hemwick and the other one appeared while the other like randies were surrounding me and she just fucking detonated and killed the others like thanks thanks for the uh somebody says charisma it's like well is it charisma to say put that cookie down now and have it be funny is that what i was getting at is how i enjoy him in batman robin is entirely dissimilar from how i enjoy him in t2 and that's entirely dissimilar from how i enjoy him in commando in total recall so it's like i don't really know how to explain it it's uh he's got a he's got some versatility for a guy who sounds exactly the same yeah i know it's it's weird like if you think of arnold swattsdegard but i mean god damn like radio wolf castler is meant to be a parody of him but it's like yeah but arnold swattsdegard is really like i like him i like watching him in movies yeah and i do well i mean he might still be one of my like he's certainly one of my favorite actors of all time i don't know if he's number one but like there's not a movie he's in that i don't enjoy and that's um that's something because they range from some of my favorite movies of all time to some of my favorite like ironically enjoyed movies of all time so it's like what's going on there exactly uh i think we said it already remember that movie you watched when i was over uh with the assassin thingies yeah there's a fucking movie called like we have to kill ricketer or something not ricketer because that's from yeah that's no um hind rick someone in the chat's gonna know i don't remember it was it was pretty funny it was pretty fun yeah the movie is basically guy has a girlfriend guy's an assassin guy's girlfriend leaves him for arnold swattsdegard who's the gunter that's the one yeah um and so he wants to kill gunter and he gets a team of assassins together to kill arnold swattsdegard basically and he over the course of the film is killing all of them because he's like the best assassin ever sort of thing it's all a comedy it's quite funny and arnie's is fucking class in it yeah he's not in it like much at all but for what he's in it it's fun i'm just like that predator because predator had a lot of good one line to stick around when he was fucking amazing well the thing with predator is i you know you know the you son of a bitch the handshake everyone i was kidding i watched that and it's just like it's funny i feel like a lot of uh my perspective on life was informed by 80s movies because a lot of it was just seeing white guys and black guys chilling out and being friends and i saw oh you lost oh no well do you see what they did they did they did the aoe move three times in a row it's like damn that ai is fun yeah also i like two hits two more hits and she'd be dead so the game's totally trolling me it's like lol you lose but guys this this isn't the real run so it doesn't count exactly um i would and a lot of people say that handshake ended racism it's like you son of a bitch it's um i mean it's some of the most testosterone you've ever seen in a film dude i just love the fact that not only is that film known for that it's also one of the greatest slasher films of all time and action movies it's also really well written like that's it well well i think that's uh that seems to be the thing that you because i mean total recall is another film that i feel like if we watched it'd be like wow this is actually like really good like i feel like that film is really good it's just been so long like it actually has some interesting things to explore about memory and identity and um you know reality and stuff like that while being a really fun action movie do you remember um remember when films could do that be fun and also smart do you remember when there's two um what's his name in total recall it's not Dylan's like the fucking hell my mind is terrible right now he's your man director oh sorry no no his name what what all right oh my god quade right yes it's played no no no no no no no that's right all right oh no so that's designed to piss you off and i obviously fell for it i just lost 30 30k echoes so i don't mind dying to that is fine but not when 30k echoes were just lost because a witch did a fucking stunlock move on me that's this is an example by the way of i and i think rags is going to agree with me so hard right now um this is not haha that you failed this is wow the game is a cunt yeah there we go i guess oh yeah this program is dumb quade it's a dumb quade yeah so what i was gonna say was um there's a part where he's there's two quades and uh he's using a like a the hologram of one to trick a bunch of people and there's one part where a bunch of guys pull guns on him and he just goes you think this is the real quade it is that he shoots them it's so good yeah and again see the party rector is really funny as well um and consider that a divorce hilarious and this is what i mean like and then you have that scene where it's um the red pill nine years before uh the matrix did it you know like it's such a and also i think my favorite part about that scene is like he says you know the walls the reality will come crashing down he shoots him in the head and then the walls of the walls come crashing down as the guys bust in it's like hang on a second maybe this is like bullshit you know what i mean like you could you could come out of that film go like maybe like he actually has gone into psychosis yeah maybe he has lost his mind and the fact that it could go both ways um but i guess that's what i mean is like i uh especially more and more lately as i'm trying to figure out what exactly kind of story i'd like to write i'm just like you know what comedy and drama can like really go together really well i think uh i think again we talked about a lot but like uh joss weeden is a good example of comedy and drama married in the same scene edgarite is an excellent example james gun yeah and i feel like when i think about a lot of the stuff that i like it's like oh it's that stuff not like strict comedy or strict and i think that's what i wanted bojack to be when we were rewatching it and it just isn't that because it's not funny and the drama's deficient it's funny you was saying that because it's like i'm trying to read out super chats but the next when i was just it says uh i always thought bojack looked absolutely terrible and it's just like i wonder if that's they're strictly talking about the animation style or if they're talking just about the show in general probably the show in general i mean the animation style isn't that great in terms of joss weeden's a worthless hack change my mind sorry guys sorry guys but like barfi is so incrementally important and fantastic and also avengers like i'm sorry have we all just decided that avengers isn't a good film like i like how we're all shitting on joss weeden like he's he's a talentless hack and it's like dude like the the movie land as it exists today wouldn't if it wasn't for avengers and that was something he made and it's something that his dna is all over ew like i'm sorry guys i've heard people attribute that um john favreau is the like the dna of the mcu it's like i mean he made iam man but avengers is what totally solidified the mcu um you had to nail that one and it was done at that point then you can make as many shitty movies as you want the mcu is always gonna keep going and i think well it's funny though because i uh i was doing a little bit of reading into the history of guardians of the galaxy and um and initially amanda cypher was meant to play gamora but she turned it down because she didn't want to be in the first mcu bomb like that was and i and when i thought about that i'm like oh yeah i remember when i heard that they were making guardians of the galaxy i was like wait really like rocket raccoon like what um i feel like guardians of the galaxy might be more important than we realized because it was like oh the mcu can't bomb i think that was what that established it doesn't matter what they do like people will go and watch it it also helps that guardians of the galaxy is a really good film really fucking but um yeah but i think that was what it showed is like it doesn't matter how far out the concept is like people will get up to canon fuck um buffing angel is so damn good i love them you're right man they are so damn good i'm just making more fans of it as time goes on i mean joss like this is what i mean people are willing to give these concessions to a lot of other directors and writers when they say stuff like this film was ruined by you know xyz but like joss weeden has been on record saying that age of ultron was just like torn from him and it's not a project even considers his own work at this point it's like does that count for nothing he also makes fun of his own work in alien resurrection also final point to this whole thing is everything you made been good this was fun to me about joss weeden he's got a huge you can call it a huge mixed bag um but the highs holy shit they are some good highs yeah so high right now oh so i just went through my trophies for crash for and realized that there were a part of the game i haven't thought about what metal there are other people in the call all right all i was just saying is i think i do have other games i have other things to play um like uh there are other components of this thing i need to look at okay uh i'm just looking at all of these things like point four percent of people have gotten all the platinum relics like i only have three or four uh trophies left to get well more than three or four but still uh but you know what i think i know enough about that game and my ps4 hasn't shit with that so that's good oh Jesus Christ wow the studlock attempt from the game there unfortunately i built health games to get fucked oh my god what the hell damn dude it was like a machine gun yeah and i'm sure they thought it was perfectly fair like it's totally balanced it all things should be absolutely i got absolutely annihilated by one of those snake heads just now yeah the snakes can fuck with you hardcore in the uh in fangolin forest where the hell this is Zach's knight it gets but not weeding yeah i know right yeah holy shit Zach's not even made a good one yet oh shit from what i understand watchman is something that doesn't age well i need to see it again um 300 is like fun but yeah i'm sure it's not that great and then of course there's man of steel and bbs which i'm gonna be getting a refresh on them soon enough and my opinions on them will be solidified and uh he made sucker punch as well which is really stupid he made yeah uh he made dawn of the dead was it or was it which one was that the 2004 dawn of the dead he might have you might be right i think that was its first uh feature so he did that in 300 then watch men then sucker punch and then he started doing dc stuff yeah it's are my soul supposed to be in this room i've completely blanked on that no no way i lost them didn't no you lost them because that witch pushed you off the cliff what a nice lady that was man of steel wasn't that bad yeah i think what we're gonna learn guys is that man of steel might actually be the best one because one woman is so awful that um that i think that established hierarchy might change man of steel may well be the okay one oh it might yeah it might be honestly if you if you ask me to bet money on it i'd be like i think man of steel is gonna be better than wonder woman i do think so because man of steel is um like man of steel is lacking a lot of ways and like character you know what i mean like it's super man's character is so poorly defined that i don't know if you can extract wars from it like he's just a plank um i don't know um fuck it's 5 a.m already that's it yeah boy i don't even notice well this is good training for tomorrow just a quick test just a quick test yeah i mean i'm not streaming this at the moment in case why i don't know well it's too late isn't it i mean no it's a test stream it can last half an hour oh well like oh i see test everything sorted yeah i'm still gonna stop streaming now though because i'm feeling the tired can you send you send your your audience over here why not right i mean yeah this is a good wow it doesn't sorry guys see that molla doesn't want you over there well so uh fringy it might not shock you to know i don't think that's a good boss i think that's pretty lame the whole boss is really lame and so we're not doing well there's not a single boss i think is fun yet i think they're all just meh um do you know if there's any way to check like if you've uh installed all of the dlc for this game or how do you know like i don't i i'm pretty sure it's just isn't it just it unlocks rather than installs oh well i had to download a six gigabyte update thingy so well that's probably it then i don't know you should be fine it's fine i came from molla in the first place what about gas going well yeah gas going is probably the best one okay fine i'll give you gas going fine you get to have gas going chat okay i'll be back tomorrow people's i'll go offline now go watch the the the mumblos you do buy mootlo but i'm still gonna chill for a couple of minutes just going to go offline oh but yeah yeah but for the sake of your chat they'll all say goodbye you know and then it's like goodbye that cat if you want to keep watching this sports events switch over to this channel hey welcome back to the sports show welcome back i just got here except now you have to pay a subscription that is me television don't you know me too low easy on wait mel was the last boss you killed uh vico oh okay we're drawing finally frame right oh you notice that fringy wait until i fight the pasta monster i'm just reminded of the fact that it runs really poorly yeah that's all why am i going i think uh i think that was back when the debate on 30 fps was really uh that was back when uh i think ready at dawn were like oh you know 30 f that's more filmic stop stop hey look no you need you need to be reminded okay um you're made to die in this section right yeah you're gonna you're gonna hang out though mel yeah i'm gonna hang out for a little bit before i leave excellent excellent all right then i guess i'll continue with the with the things um there's a right wing gun toting libertarian nothing is hotter than a gun owning woman oh another person saying that how about that yeah boy libertarian huh i mean guns are for everybody okay shouldn't be a part yeah that's what i know right yeah guns are even for like socialists you know well i mean in fact definitely i mean the red revolution they had guns right it's called the revolution well they want to have control over who has guns and that's them right but but what i'm saying is when you know when you have to do the revolution it gets the government you need the guns to stop the government right yeah yeah basically guns are useful for things this is true they do have a utility it uh now it's a ring for the second amendment if i if i if i kill this wolf in this opening section does that oh no i'm dead that's okay that'll be the opening challenge for us when we begin the race tomorrow who out of the three of us is successful to kill that wolf that you can do it it's tough all right but yeah what happens when you kill the wolf though you don't get it well you get three health or whatever but you know it's for the fun okay for me it's for the fun for me god god classic freer to my mate fun however that account that character has far more hours and scourge but somewhat recently i have swapped over to reaper so i'm more viable in tier four fractals yeah i agree with all that really served much of a purpose in high level fractals great insanely good for open world but um just not not really good for uh not really good again completely agree yeah but power rater definitely has a place power rater puns are great in moderation oh i guess i love someone just like that retweeted it just so there there's the thing i timeline was this select the tweet not just the timeline you idiot i've never seen that link before that's that's crazy talk fool you fool there you lose a full set oh enough that's coming out soon i'm i'm at the copyright section of sorting out wonder where i'm in then i will destroy you what's wrong with that line fringy what it's a character expressing how he feels it's a character expressing how he feels what's wrong with that i think my favorite part was how people were saying oh yeah no the third act that's when it gets bad it's like oh really no happened in the third act for stuff yes but why is it bad dialogue if it's true and to the character uh is that do people actually say that or people tell me why he wouldn't say people have said that about other things for me i don't know what are you whatever i'm just answer the question for you why is it bad dialogue if it's true to what he's saying um what he means what he wants i will destroy you yeah what's wrong with that i mean there's just i don't know if i'm like prepared to have this conversation yeah that's what i thought it is good dialogue because it represents closely the feelings of aries and his goals i oh i i didn't realize that that's how our good dialogue works if it closely represents your goals then it's good because people always say exactly what they mean well another reason why it's good dialogue is because aries has had enough of diana and he wants her to know that he wants her to know that he will destroy her yeah like it's like you already watched my extensive video essay about good dialogue because yeah that was right out of my script he let her know exactly what he what he intended which was to destroy her you probably get it now like this good dialogue right just clarifying just making sure because you know a lot of people like oh it's really overt oh it's really cartoonish who speaks that way why would you say it's like none of that really matters aries feels that he will destroy diana and so he's expressing that and that's fine so he's expressing his intent to destroy her that's all to be honest i don't know that you can really improve the line i feel like that's the interesting thing about the conversation about dialogue is just like how exactly you know what what is it that makes dialogue good or bad is kind of a you know it is a conversation to be had um of course people always say what they mean haven't you watched anime free oh shots fired oh wait what i see i was just i was just being in front of like stuff other stuff not wow you guys took it to a place that's what you did um it's funny because i do really like death note but death note kind of has this well i mean a lot of anime has this problem like in death note there'll be parts where like light and l they just have their internal monologue projected at you like you know yeah like when people talk to themselves in like a dream or in their head they just have that happen a lot and a lot of the time it's and it's funny right because a lot of people be like well the reason why light needs to explain his plan is because it's pretty big brain it's like yeah a lot of his stuff is pretty well well in defense of that show like a lot of the plans are pretty big brain but there are better ways of communicating that they're just having a having this comes back to the whole a lot of things are given to anime that aren't given to other things if in the middle of some of the climactic moments of Buffy it zooms into the foreheads of characters and then they think out loud like i feel confused i i don't think i could watch the show i'd be like oh this is yeah and to me it's it's less so like that's not what the character would think it's more so wow you write as a fucking lazy well i think that's the problem is it's yeah it's that meta right where it's like i know what you're doing show i see you dear what you're doing somebody said i was wrong about what about what be more specific like about about anime in general probably yeah probably i'm gonna say things that are wrong about anime in general except a loss for it it's slightly better in an intellectual fight like in death note well like i said i like death note and i don't like a lot of anime so there's clearly something that shows doing a lot of anime i mean a lot of people talk about it right that i'm gonna have a potato chip and eat it it's like is this a joke this is probably is a joke about um like anime right how everything's very dramatic um i feel like friggy is always wrong and then the follow-up is i was wrong about halo four you got to pick a better example than that all right why halo four story is bad rags fight him um i can't remember enough about halo four to say so so the big problem with halo four is that it's dramatically inconsistent with halo one two and three like especially in terms of characterization and absolutely in terms of world building like there is no getting around the fact that the game needs to reconcile why chief never really spoke and then in halo four he talks a lot um and seems to behave like a totally different person um the game kind of hopes that you just don't think about it um but it is a problem and in terms of like the actual plot the big problem that this game has is that it massively retcons like the uh the history of um of the universe like chief isn't just an exceptional spun he was designed by the forerunners to like beat the bad guys what and he got like infused with forerunner dna or something and that makes it super powerful i don't even remember all this so do you remember like a scene where he's i think it's called the librarian i think that's the name of the uh the the character that he speaks to um the librarian is this like old forerunner lady and i remember the lady i yeah for the love of me fucking remember what that conversation was about from what i can remember about it the whole thing was oh so like so in in the old games there was a heavy implication that the forerunners and humans were one and the same like humans are for oh yeah yeah i thought that was like the canon thing of the other well of the realm is what sets up yeah with the rick rainbow it's it's not though because the forerunners are a different race the diet act is a forerunner and he's a different he's he's clearly not a human being so it's like and and yeah there was a forerunner human war and the humans were turned into the prothians or whatever they were called the proof for the prometheans yeah no not the most unfun to fight faction ever devised yeah for you you're getting lots of um getting lots of no that's wrong in chat is that wrong okay um all right um but i'm just saying this must be this must explain you bad wait well you got it you got to tell me which part is wrong so that i can actually address it rather than just a total garbage there you go you got something on someone's on your team uh yeah so here's the problem where it gets confused there are multiple different races there are the precursors there are the forerunners and then there are humans when it used to be that there were forerunners and uh precursors like that was what it was i mean god damn like i'm pretty sure guilty spark expressly said that chief was a forerunner yeah that's what i thought was the whole establishment where you are the forerunner but this ring is mine well it's the whole idea that why is it why is it that humans can activate the rings it's because they're forerunners and it was designed for forerunners um yeah see now people are saying i'm correct because like i absolute i'm definitely correct on this one and so like it is a retconny history where like no the forerunners are different um let me oh let me i have a halo nerd for a friend let me ask uh just yeah ask them for clarification stream i wish wolf was here for this wolf agrees with me just adds up like i wouldn't be surprised when a heliport came up wouldn't be surprised if wall said halo four is such a disaster that doesn't deserve to exist or something oh um he doesn't like halo four at all um neither does my friend i'm contacting right now yeah well i mean i don't even remember like i remember and i'm like yeah the multiplayer was fine i guess i i forget so much about the single player because it was so like so let me tell you what i think a big problem with halo four is is that it falls into a lot of traps that the halo games didn't fall into when it comes to tropes and fantasy and science fiction like there's a lot of things that halo does that are really cool um the big one being that um the big one being that like master chief is not he isn't like a prophecy he isn't some he's just a guy he's a really really he's really good at his job well i think i think the main thing that the games often say is uh i think it was in halo three right it's like do you know why i picked you luck it's like oh he's lucky that's it he's lucky that's that's it like and of course you know when you say what is lucky mean it's like i don't know he just he just gets lucky on a lot of things like and someone would be like is that a plot hole it's like we're not like a meta commentary on the fact he's a video game character i don't know i think you could interpret it much more as a meta commentary but i think it's just the idea of like there is nothing particularly exceptional about chief written into the universe but then halo four is like no you were we designed you like you were the chosen one yeah um that can't i just be a man who's good at his job i know i know like i much prefer that just hey i'm good at my job not like i'm some crazy uh so yeah and again this is all putting to one side was rampancy a thing with ai the whole seven years was that in the old games i don't remember that that seems like a massive happening like building something that only lasts for seven years like come on unless that's just a natural byproduct of their incredible complexity but i don't remember them ever bringing that up that's what the game says in halo four like they think themselves to death that's what rampancy is um but but but but it's worth remembering it's worth remembering that the only reason why that becomes important is because in halo five cortana cure's rampancy and the ai's turn against humans so like i'm willing to okay part of what they wanted to do for halo five and six why would ai's turn against humans so the idea in halo five is that cortana cures rampancy by connecting to some forerunner network called the domain so it cures her and she's now in charge of the uh the prometheans and the logic is in charge of the prometheans yeah she she basically takes over the forerunner network and there's like controlling the prometheans and for some reason they fight but then there's some other guy i gather what was the guy called it he was called the um the didact no no no the warden eternal the boss you have to fight seven times um well and so he he's like kind of against cortana so he fights you and sends enemies after you but but the logic is basically it is the mass effect three ending all over again um if humans in korea and like organics are left to their own devices they will kill themselves so us ai have to take over that is that again i i don't like it when games are so bad as fact when i just don't believe it well i think i think of much more interesting thing and this is what i've been thinking about a lot lately is there's probably one of two outcomes to creating ai it effectively becomes god and takes over everything and we're subservient to it or it kills us i think that those are the one of two endings um it just kind of makes sense that that would be the natural end point but sure but the problem is i feel like a lot of the stories that because mass effect doesn't tackle this um if we leave you to your own devices you will wipe yourselves out so we will wipe you out this is like that that's insane it doesn't make sense yeah i don't yeah i never buy first i don't think that's a the only two outcomes but i also i definitely don't believe the whole oh yeah the more civilized you get and the the the more the chances are that you're just going to flat out destroy yourself i think there might be a window for that being possible but the idea that a race is going to destroy itself just like as an inevitability i suppose i think that's a clarification for what i say with the ai rules i think the natural end point would be that if an even civilization was sufficiently intelligent enough to create ai how long does it take before they just merge with ai and become like an artificial you know what i mean like the whole idea of you upload yourself to the cloud like that seems like a the most likely it's more likely to me yeah i guess that's what i mean when i say it rules over not like it's it's like god but that you just sort of become part of it like um i feel like that kind of like the day of sex ending uh or the invisible war ending where there's like an ai that's linked to all humans and it makes all of the government decisions based on like the direct feedback from the population stuff like that um i could see that being a possibility um i think it's interesting to think about and i think it's more interesting than it just kills you um or it becomes a dictator well then you may be wrong about anime and health it's worth noting guys like anything i say about anime you shouldn't take too seriously i haven't watched enough anime to have a real take on the entire genre but they like you fringy so they want you to be right that's that's more subtextually that's kind of it applies to all of us that's that's why people get annoyed they want us to have the correct takes from their point of view as well they want to have their they want to have their opinions validated by us because they look up to us so much at the same time oh i love one punch man by the way yeah if um if like any view when i met you were ardent buffy is an awful tv show that ruined things i would be like really though really though yeah well yeah because that's a much more interesting take because it's like wait hold on so you've watched it and you hate it it's like so i get their interest they're like i want you to know i want to know more so uh so we agree then it is official halo four is bad right um well i mean and this is all ignoring that gameplay wise hello four is kind of a disaster um i think you're gonna find much disagreement on that rags anything about halo four mechanics from a gameplay perspective from i most of what i remember is from multiplayer and i remember it being i don't know i wasn't super critical of it it was fine i didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the other ones but i i didn't i remember enjoying it but i didn't put nearly the amount of hours into it as i did the other halos it didn't crowd me like the other one did uh i mean halo that's a common story rags and i think that's kind of the problem like halo four lost its players very quickly there is i don't know it it wasn't the feel quote unquote the feel of it it wasn't it wasn't that it was something else it was i guess i think it was the because halo four as a as the sum of its parts was just not all that great i don't think i could point to anything individually it wasn't like the weapon sounds and the feedback and the level design and the balance it was that it was i mean i would i wouldn't say that there are issues with the balancing from oh there definitely was yeah it was dmr fucking all the way but then again with having custom classes in a halo game where the sandbox is designed around i know we've had this conversation before well it's not the fact there's the custom classes aren't the problem it's that there's one obvious option it's that one option is just better than the rest objectively i guess that's kind of the problem i'm getting at though is that halo is not like kola judy in the sense that it's like okay there is a difference between a scar and like an m4a1 but functionally they're pretty similar because rich had the ability to select classes yes but it had free determined classes like you couldn't you couldn't mix and match different weapons to your what it's kind of mix and match as long as they're all balanced and each weapon has a purpose but but here's the problem is when they're how do you balance how do you balance the plasma pistol when it's a weapon that is expressly designed to take down people's shields and and its functionality needs to remain that way in campaign at least you know if you want to you know keep that weapon the same as it was before how do you get around that problem well we already know that the the amount of damage the enemies take in campaign differs from the amount of damage they take in multiplayer um yes that's true but what about their core they have shields and they don't have shields stuff like that well you just you damage modifiers are different um but how do you do a damage modifier for taking the shield down like once the shield is down intense halo battle so what so should should a plasma rifle in multiplayer only take down half the shield because once that happens to change but i would consider that to be a change to its functionality because if you can rely on it taking down shields in campaign but in multiplayer it doesn't take down shields all the way it's like oh this is they can take down shields fully in multiplayer yeah but that's what i'm saying doesn't have to be a weapon you can necessarily necessarily select or you work off of a pool of this weapon is worth so many points right um which is what i mean i think what do you mean it's a sickle jigsope this is two people battling right now all right all right you have like when you make a class and more how you have 16 points or whatever that you can spend and divvy up between different sorts of things based on their effectiveness and the synergy they have with other things i suppose you could do that but is that not an acknowledgement of the fact that there are weapons that are just functionally better than others and even if you have it like that aren't people just going to congregate around those it depends that that's mostly set up so that you can't synergize the loadout too good um because one thing like a plasma pistol is really good in some scenarios and useless in others um so i mean that's part of the balancing process this weapon is and a lot of this ties into map design as well if map design is one way then maybe a shotgun is just the best gun and 80 percent of the maps and if you reckon all right in the main play i won't summon anyone i'm curious what defector an tal can provide for me okay how much weight this has in the point pool um that i mean that's the here's that's the difficulty of doing it that's why we praise good weapon balance in games so much um i think that i like the idea and and obviously you'd cut so you'd cut the power weapons off like you couldn't spawn with a rocket launcher or a sniper right right and you probably consider a shotgun a power weapon as well i think i think the shotgun is i think any weapon in the old games just something that would be spawned on a map that you would rush towards is power weapons uh maybe yeah um because um because like plasma rifles and stuff would spawn on all things as well um right that went really well and the summon was worth it yeah we could yeah like yeah and depending on which game it is like the shotgun is a power weapon but like the sniper rifle the rocket is always so yeah yeah um but that's that's part of what makes a difficult that that's part of the difficulty in making a balanced multiplayer game but if your alternative clearly that was an tal's fault not mine starts with the same weapons and then you spawn weapons in the middle of the map that are the people you know people can rush to to get like that that was part of the game before was there are power weapons you go find them once you get power weapons i i mean i prefer i i i think i prefer the other way and as someone who really likes the halo games multiplayer i have seen too often that the fucking hoe grabbing me after a rough fuck you good weapons help you secure good weapons and that can often lead to just kind of stomps a lot of the times um in how they're used and i but i a lot of that has to do with how many power weapons there are per map which i feel is often too many um i've i've simply played too many games of halo where one team has all the power weapons and you're just fucked yours just you're basically you're just done um when that happens i i guess that fuck you metal commander i don't think i'd call that a positive um or if you like there's no it is extremely difficult to come back from a scenario where one team has the sword and the sniper rifle and the rocket and the more power weapons you have the easier it is for you to secure the power weapons um so some said i need an example of a map that has too many power weapons there's a bunch the one i generally go to is let me pull it up it think it's reflection from which game start reach uh let me double check yeah reflection i hate reflection so i think reflection is one of the worst maps in all of halo and one of the reasons is one of the reasons is because there was a rocket launcher and energy sword a shotgun so the na sniper rifle there are four power weapons in a game that is played primarily in a 4v4 and the way that the map is designed there is there's a clear correct place to control when you have these power weapons that plays really really well into having the power weapons the upper area has these two hallways on the left and right it has a good view of the main rotunda in front of you and you have the elevator that comes out the back which is impossible to sneak up because you activate the motion sensor if you're on the elevator and being able to control the area with these items is just way too i've seen more complete slaughters on reflection than i've seen anywhere else um i and i think if there was only it like if there was only a rocket in all in a sniper this is fucking garbage this whole fight is so garbage there's the power weapon dominance on reflection um uh i guess um what i'm trying to i uh i i i uh i'm sorry my brain does anyone even know what just happened in this fight no the answer is no hold that thought someone said someone says that seems like a map design problem you are correct one hundred percent map design is integral to a good multiplayer game because map design map design is so fucking important and i don't think people are like that's not a very good map there's like no but map design is huge because map design is based off of how fast players move what the time to kill is and it factors heavily especially into halo into the potency of the power weapons which is huge in halo for instance a sword is 10 kills there's 10 kills worth of energy in that sword which is insanely high and on reflection it is really quite easy to get 10 kills worth out of that sword because of the way the map is designed you are you should never lock onto the big beast boss it's just like oh guys what you're at the point saying that i just don't lock on is not going to be nearly as potent as a sniper rifle on a different map and so putting map design map design and power weapons in halo need to synergize really well and almost basically all the time i'm like the less power weapons probably the better um i put up with them i don't think they're great but i put up with them um this has been a when half the people in the game when half the people in one game have power weapons and when power weapons hope you get power weapons it's sort of snowballs and i've seen it way too many times on reflection to not just like kind of have it locked into my brain i feel like halo two and three had a much stronger balance in that regard though i agree that's the thing um yeah and so like when i look at halo two and three it's like man i feel like just do that and and it's funny because like halo five i really like the multiplayer in halo five and i'd like halo two and three but if the lock on doesn't work for bosses in this game you don't just go well that's just how it works you have to account for it they had to design it around you can't just go how well the mechanic doesn't work don't use it come on i i never had a problem with the new feel of halo i have no issue with it i don't i don't really like halo four but halo five like i do like uh i do like that multiplayer yeah it looks when i watch people play it it looks like a game that i could really enjoy playing um yeah and even halo the old style of halo it works really well but it is kind of archaic well like the way that you jump and move around and shoot at things it is you're not supposed to lock on to everything don't make it lock on a ball just don't make it lock on a ball if that's your argument come on but you can also see why people would feel like it's it feels old quote unquote feels old it works really well in terms of especially like it just mechanical simplicity is often an excellent way to achieve balance i think that's kind of the uh the thing that helps though it's because because as much as i do like halo five there's a lot of extra things that like factor into it you know like boosting sprinting clamber uh dashing um with jetpack sliding ground pound it's like there were all of these new things that it builds on it's like everybody can do these things so you when you fight the main person too well i guess what i i'm getting at is it's the idea that from the balance it's like when you look at an enemy you know exactly what he can do because he has the same abilities as you as opposed to in reach or halo four it's like he could have any number of different armor abilities yes um so there is that but it all complicates the game it's still all complicates the game because it's all these other things you need to think about whereas um in halo three the guy you're looking at he is the speed he's moving right now that's the speed he's going to be moving all the time um he can't do anything different to that um yeah there is something to be said about when you see an enemy you have an understanding of what mechanics they can use and you should how you can prepare for that slash play against it well that's one of the reasons i really love mordhau is because when you see an enemy you can see what kind of armor they have and you can see what weapon that's a big dumb do you design everything in a game to be exactly how you should play it or do you design it for people to learn lock on is lock on to quote the great mr incredible from incredibles so there it's not like you don't get surprised that much for a game about timing and reaction you don't get surprised in a mechanical sense like he doesn't all of a sudden do something that you didn't think was impossible and couldn't have possibly planned for it yeah i think that's um i think that's an important part of it um i like how there are people in chat who are like oh more of losing his sanity from this conversation it's like yeah there's no such thing as tangents in e-fat oh there's a whole other conversation going on i'm arguing with chat right now oh are you that might go the referencing basically dark beast pal is the boss i just thought is another shit boss from bloodborne the entire creature fills up the entire screen the fps tanks and you just hack away and hope you win and you do and then someone's like well you're not supposed to lock on to the enemy you ever hit that before what you're not supposed to why is that a feature in the game if you're not supposed to do that when you lock on to big beast it fucks your camera but lock on allows you to target all of your attacks onto the beast so like they just like don't lock on to enemies that lock on doesn't work on it it's like how about you make it work how about that how about it works that's probably a good way to go yeah what a stupid argument so i mean bloodborne gets a pass because it's so awesome it's like guys if it's sharing issues with ds2 you better fucking believe we're gonna talk about it yeah i'm just forgetting that more now has terrible max cap population on almost every server completely destroying frames and ping that has nothing to do with what i was talking about at all and whether i remember that or forgot it it wouldn't change anything about what i said so like that yeah okay bye about oh yeah i've been trying for less 20 minutes but there was no gap to talk i'm gonna give you a big cheat you're able to actually proper german well it didn't have to be a city if you can just leave a simp message and chat and then leave yeah but that's rude it is rude i agree it's not rude i guess we established that that my voice is not getting prioritized today where other people talk so uh but yeah i'll see you all tomorrow oh boy see you later better get ready for the race now i'm gonna smash you no yeah um bye oh boy so i'm gonna ask for my yakuza opinions i have none i've never played yakuza i'll be back in like five minutes and then i'm gonna start up like the test stream to see that it's all good sweet sure maybe a couple minutes yeah and then rags we come back to should i read out the next super chat sure i've yeah you know halo fans out there will be happy that's what i reckon as well as bloodborne fans maybe i kind of i've been shooting on bloodborne a little bit today only out of love guys i love bloodborne it is one of my favorite games it's just it has flaws okay it has flaws um fringies hot oh wait i'll read that when he's back bojack is like big mouth tries to be funny but bad okay we probably want to try and separate uh big mouth from bojack all right well put them in you know put them in different categories from what i understand big mouth is an abomination i what i've seen a big mouth make i i would i would not watch that ever yeah it's definitely a uh bojack is failing to be something pretty great big mouth like that that's just a disaster like i said so oof kind of like the difference between the prequels and the sequels i guess if you can pitch big mouth and get it approved you can get anything pitched and approved we clearly earth failed you know we just we went too far or not far enough one of those things happened sure of it uh what are each of your favorite either simpson episode or simpson's joke or moment seasons one through nine ish all right you know what i'll save that one there's two simpson's questions we'll save those for when fringies back because rags didn't uh i don't think you watch i don't know much about simpson but i do have a funny moment from simpson's that i have seen that makes me laugh a big much in that case they'll be even better to save for fringy because he will he will he will shortle a plenty he loves his simpson if you won't watch astates where does south park sit if you had to rate it compared to say simpson's future armor family you know i'll save that for when fringies back to heal one in on these conversations trust me uh shaft just made a bojack vid might be with an e-fap there is no fucking way we're e-fapping anything to do with bojack because that would require me re-watching the fucking show and i'm not doing that see the provisor to get rags to see videos that cover rick and morty is to make it more trick and morty which means i have to re-watch rick and morty which is actually a pleasant thing for me to do so i'm like hell yeah i'm i i'm i would absolutely watch rick and morty i'm doing good things and the things i have seen have been good if someone was like oh you can cover a video about how bad you think a thing is that you don't care about or like and all you have to do is make rags watch fucking six seasons of it it's like yeah nah nah just watch six seasons of it it's that easy and i know a lot of people are they'll be like you don't have to re-watch the show it's like yeah i do i i fucking barely remember a lot of the references for bojack at this point it was already faint when i was criticizing it um on the the efab where it came up i just remember the broad strokes and i remember specific criticisms but even that oh it's all going that's how content works for well humans right it has to be like super meaningful in a bad or good way and it'll stick in there but if it's something super just ugh then um you don't even forget you even watched it another another question in chat because in the same vein if you want to throw it up is where would king of the hill sit in comparison to the simpsons i watched king of the hill like you watched simpsons so all right i i haven't watched much of either but i guess just so it's out there i have enjoyed king of the hill quite a bit it is it is more subtle humor i guess it's more subtle and slow burn dry it's not like it's not like obvious joke occurs and everyone laughs like laugh track a laugh track could not work with king of the hill i don't feel it's just more it's trying to be more it's trying to play itself a bit more straight i guess at least that's my recollection of it maybe that was from just the episodes i saw but i what i've seen it's what i've seen a lot god cancels okay so it's a slow burn good one rams i didn't even realize that that was for the propane when i said it but good catch was it you just said dogs and have a good in games was it fringy as in like mechanically it's probably fringy um enemy dogs specifically oh enemy dogs i'm trying to think now if that's something that i would say and i think it would have said that when we were talking about the last of us too yeah because i think his references would include doxels as a series dogs in doxels assault series is just annoying they're fast they have low health but they can stun lock youth is enough of them they only annoying and also when fringy comes back i got a message uh back from my uh friend yeah we just so much fringy content for us to i know right you should show up more often if you already yeah we would go for what four and a half hours holy shit you guys had fun this has been fun this is gonna literally the one to one the exact same thing will be tomorrow and of course you can be there for that if you want right uh say what now sorry same time tomorrow this was supposed to be a thing today and it's not a thing because fring wasn't here in time but he will be tomorrow so it'll be this exact same thing tomorrow um maybe it depends i might be doing something tomorrow night but i do not have confirmation on it yet it should be your tomorrow afternoon if that matters um i don't know for certain it'll be two hours past normal e-fap time so your three p.m i think all right then i could probably be around for a couple hours probably yeah yeah maybe a couple yeah maybe a couple hours most we're not gonna race this game and then we'll continue it on the friday i think that comes after because there's no fucking way we're doing this in one session and i'm gonna have to chat by the way you're gonna have to guide me to the next part of bloodbombs i've kind of forgotten where to go next you know how these games go without saying and we've got a bunch of super chest again today i think worst-case scenario i will continue answering them and any that are addressed to rags or i think rags would have an interesting answer to i will save so that will make sure to catch anyway uh one of the best blend of comedy and drama is jintama is that an anime if it is i don't care oh shadows of yharnam yeah that i need to get to the forest but i have no idea where that is that's completely wrong jintama is an anime i knew it we're we're we're right like 90 percent of the time whenever it's something we don't recognize it's an anime or hey man we're good at what we do yep that's clear evidence of our prowess come on start your thing up these guys come with an automatic like major weakness that's good for me oh no you don't uh molo rags what exactly do you love about re4 and they move on in this comment to have some pretty harsh criticism so we'll we'll start first with our praises and then we'll move on to their criticisms you want to go first on about dark souls re4 our praises you know yeah you go first do we do one it will just keep passing the potato let's do a strength each so i guess what comes to my mind first dominantly about re4 that's a strength will weaknesses are going to be from the super chat we'll only do strength is strength is that's a weird uh is the balancing phenomenal balancing while scaling the game as you progress like enemies get more difficult and perhaps scaling health as well but like according to your acquisition of weaponry and uh let's say you're arsenal to be to make it more broad and then the the and this is i've recommended this before mark brown's video on re4 that's not terrible the very hidden elastic banding that they have in the game to account for players who are doing worse and account players doing better just just how much capacity you have to destroy versus what kind of enemies you're facing throughout the game seems to be really well done i don't know what they did with that game more than any other as resident evil but i felt it um so that would be one without getting into more specific examples um i will half agree half disagree in a weird way on that um but uh mainly that while the game in the most important way which is the game against the player the balancing is really good in the sense that the weapons are balanced amongst themselves i'd say the game is kind of middling to maybe poor um but which is actually something i think resident evil five improved upon wait what do you reference when you say that sorry the weapons compared to each other like um for instance there there's no real reason to pick there is no reason to pick to use a lot of the weapons and resident evil for there are clearly superior choices that yeah i guess that hadn't actually come into my mind when i was thinking about it i was mainly just like all capacity versus enemy capacity but you are you are correct in the sense of your arsenal that you're using being balanced well against the enemy your ability to hurt them and their ability to hurt you is well balanced uh it does require learning and execution because my strength is going to be its consistency its mechanical consistency where when you do something you pretty much know exactly what will happen or what could reasonably happen um but i was saying yeah the one strength of resident evil five is each weapon kind of has its thing that it does really well which is why the scorpion like when we played i went i kept the main handgun and the scorpion because their big strength was capacity which when paired with the fact you can only have nine inventory slots is a lot more important than it was at resident evil four which was basically useless so like with resident evil four the i might make a video about this eventually because it's interesting to talk about resident evil four the most how do i get to the shadows of yonam how do i get to the forest i've completely forgotten expensive pretty much everything else you can create there are so many windows to reload and such that both reload speed and capacity really don't matter at all um on really any weapon meaningfully the exception being the tmp but that's for different reasons i will follow your guide lucifer the um i would say uh in resident evil five it actually is far more worth it to upgrade capacity at all because it plays into your lack of inventory space in another way which means that the worst inventory system in resident evil five kind of as a side effect has helped to balance weapons and give you something to care about the weapons in a way that you never had to worry about in resident evil four so another it's like i said it's a video idea i've been thinking about talking about resident evil four yeah four and five yeah but uh but yeah because my because everyone's like all the resident evil five inventory sucks and like yeah it kind of does but it creates interesting positive byproducts of its limitation yeah there's not worthless it's yeah it's not worthless it it is like the capacity thing i was talking about when you can fit a lot more wet bullets into your gun that frees up inventory space for other things which is a lot it's just really really important when you can only carry nine things and one or two or three of those will be your guns so it really is like six ish um it's interesting it's interesting to look about but um but yeah i'd say my my strength to be your strength with like a monitor would be the um the really good their consistency you can learn that game to a science yeah and these where you can kind of exploit it in a good way these positives will start possibly like just overlapping to certain degrees but like i guess next up for me would probably be resource management is incredibly satisfying which ties into the whole consistency thing um just knowing what everything is and how much it's worth it uh and and how it you you think of a thing that you have as x and it will prove to be x when it's needed um what do you mean by that like a weapon will do what an item yeah like it really feels like something will fail you when you've understood exactly what it's going to do okay i get you i know it sounds a little bit wishy washy i am a little dude these bosses are too big for like this camera no shit hey fringy all you need to do is not use lock on i've i've tried to fight the the cleric beast which is meant to be the first boss in the game right and i can barely like i can barely see its attacks coming i mean i beat it i did beat it but it wasn't that fun and then the frame rate tanks to 10 fps when it blows up um i'm just testing to see how the audio because when i did that crash full play through i remember like the audio is way too easy new mic all of a sudden at what your my quality changed instantly i just leaned closer to it oh yeah okay yeah it's like this and this i that tends to be oh what does it sound better when i'm sitting here or it sounds better it sounds better i could tell originally you weren't that close to your microphone it wasn't bad it was just i could tell the difference i feel like that's what i i need to figure out a way to have this mic constantly but i always lean back when i want how about a string that you tie around your neck and around so like as soon as you sit up it's just like i mean i will say um i don't know if rag's the same way but you should probably be a little bit high a little i know how stupid it sounds a little bit hyper aware of how you will come through based on the distance from your microphone right like yeah i've been trying to get better at that yeah you probably will really it'll become second nature probably once you i don't want to say start making content but like when when you're used to uh when when you're just used to using it a lot for recording your voice yeah yeah he's been doing this longer than i have i'm pretty sure yeah technically yeah i'd start in 2013 uh someone in chat though said said rags don't overestimate love for weapons i stuck with the first bolt action for the whole game because i love the springfield sniper rifle loving it is not the same so yeah and also it that's actually a springboard to bring up an excellent example in resident evil 4 the semi-automatic sniper rifle is just better it's just better it is higher dps it has higher damage per shot it is just better in just always and also it can equip the infrared scope um however in resident evil 5 there is an actual reason to keep the first sniper rifle instead of getting the later ones it does it it does not have the highest damage per second but it has the highest damage per shot by a considerable amount you can also have extremely high capacity which is why i kept it in our playthrough do you consider it superior strictly that every weapon serves instead of like power leveling that there are always a reason to have every weapon if you choose to i mean it depends on what you what the reason is if the reason is just i because it's more cool but if there's like like a mechanical reason for it well if something doesn't have a reason for existing mechanically then i can't well what if it's just the fact that it's the weapon to use of that category be it long range and single shot for the early game but once you get to the middle game well oh i mean this in the sense of compared to the other weapons of its type like when i'm talking with sniper rifles yeah that's why i said power level so you've got sniper sniper does x in early game you unlock cool cool sniper halfway through and it's just better than current sniper in every way is that bad um it's bad only in the sense if we're comparing weapons amongst themselves versus it's a bad player weapon redundant over player against the player against the game that's why i said i i agreed and disagreed with your first point i differentiated between balance between weapons amongst themselves and balance of the game versus the player um because like i'm i'm not like i don't mind the idea of i use the and forgive the so layman perspective on this when it comes to guns be like the wooden guns and then the steel guns when you look at them they're like they've got the wooden finishes and then when you get this the the gray finishes because they're all like all steel or whatever they just feel as though they're like oh these are the upgraded versions and if someone said yeah but that's bad though because it makes all of your wooden ones uh you know redundant uh as i was pretty certain i i don't know that i have a problem with that i'd be like yeah because i'm getting upgraded right and that also ties into this it's surrounding mechanics like right now i'm just casually playing stardew valley um there is there is horrible inter weapon balancing but the point is that you get better and better and better and better and better stuff that you upgrade and you invest into that give you better capabilities which is fine um it's not like it doesn't like ruin your options it is a specific upgrade a thing becomes a new thing that is objectively better and more efficient um and besides what's more important anyway is the player against the game not individual weapons amongst themselves which is objectively bad balance if we use the word as a definition however you can have objectively bad inter weapon balance but that's fine because it's supposed to get gradually better and better to scale with a game's difficulty against the player which is why Resident Evil 4 has really good player versus game scaling or difficulty balance but the weapons amongst themselves are not balanced well yeah i think i'm on the complete same page because uh fun enough it's like you you could agree with all of that and then you go what if though those wooden weapons have just a small damage bonus or at least the smite sniper has a small damage bonus the the shotgun has a small capacity bonus the boa while every other category it beats out in the in the upgraded versions i'd be like that's kind of neat but there is still a reason yeah um like we said in Resident Evil 5 each individual weapon within each category has its particular strength and none of those and they're all useful in their own way argue of course some will be more useful than others which is not like not not perfect but for instance like the you just in a game like Resident Evil you want power you want each shot to do more damage um whereas well this is the difference between damage per shot and damage per second so like in and that's generally balanced with ammo ammunition availability so in a game where ammo is scarce damage per shots more important and games where ammo is plentiful damage per second is more important so that's its own balancing thing to talk about which is its own conversation and it's its own big rabbit hole to leap into so that's it's one of my pet peeves of when when i when like information given to the player when you don't have good information given to the player by a game that's a huge pet peeve of mine i want to know which is why games that do damage per shot and damage per second as individual things are really great because those are both important pieces of information that matter especially in games like Resident Evil like yeah the bolt action rifle has really bad damage per second uh or damage per shot but damage per shot is really high which is good when you can only carry 30 rounds for instance but if you never have to worry about ammo then it's damaged per second all the way it's just sheer damage in time agreed yeah that's something why you're gonna talk about because so many things build on each other they were gone for you we got some questions all in a row that must have been relayed into the stream that you were on at the time that uh could be answered without you but i feel benefited from your uh your presence okay okay i guess because this one i didn't have written down i remember it so i guess i'll just say the how do you rank king of the hill related to stuff like simpson's future armor etc um the problem is i haven't watched enough king of the hill to feel like i can rank i've watched king of the hill but i haven't watched it in the same way that i've watched like every episode of future armor in south park and so it was pretty with my answer i was like i can't really answer it but but i feel like and and this is partly informed by the fact that i have watched uh silicon valley which was also created by mike judge and i really like silicon valley a lot so i feel like king of the hill i i feel like i was too young to appreciate king of the hill exactly i think that's a lot of people yeah it's not like family guy with family guy's humor is very juvenile almost to the point of being obnoxious overt and in your face what the jokes are yeah it's not i i think family guy doesn't have a lot of subtle humor like king of the hill doesn't um i think that's the thing is like because when i was a kid it's like even though the layers of the jokes to like simpsons and future armor have become more obvious to me now they were still funny on there on the face of it at the time i don't think king of the hill is like that i feel like um but i really want to watch king of the hill again i feel like it's kind of a bobs burger situation where like that show didn't really get me at first and then when i came back and watched it later especially when you get past season one it starts getting funnier yeah but yeah king of the hill is probably good but i haven't seen enough of it to rank it properly oh shit i kind of skipped over i just sorry i just remember the reason we were giving pros to um r e four was because somebody asked us what is it that we love about it i didn't mean i can my brain is not working currently um were there um other broader things that you could say quickly rags and then i can read the second half of that super chat about r e four just oh yeah it's just i know it sounds so but it's just it's fun to play it's fun to learn it's rewarding to do well with it's fun that the enemies in that game are fun to fight in the way that they interact with the player in the way that you can you know inflict damage to them and take them out um it's not like it's not a complex game at all but that's part of what makes it really fun to learn and you know getting all the stuff down and doing well it's very rewarding the levels are designed well and there's a good variety of different setups for combat so the game doesn't feel like you're doing the same thing over and over and over agreed uh so the the rest is we just said um and this is obviously meant to act as a sort of rebuttals the idea it's a good game so we could do these one at a time i guess first one is extremely low fov isn't that on purpose like i'm fine to make it harder for you to see everything because it's a horror game well so fov is complicated because like i remember told us you're always talking about giving motion sickness bad fov quote unquote which is just anything below like a hundred right like field of view yeah which i'm inclined to agree with well so the thing for me was always i never got motion sickness and i always just considered it you are hampering me like the game is like you can't see as much and i'm like all right i guess i have to work with this space okay not preferable is what i'm saying i feel like this is in the same vein of why can't i shoot and move at the same time right uh like well i don't think ariful would be ruined by like a mod where it improves your fov it wouldn't yeah it wouldn't ruin it um but i would talk about like specifically designed with that in mind i i would believe that that's the case and i would also say that there are we're talking about the tad here like limitations as well just to allow the game to run well limitations yeah um very possibly and i wouldn't want to say like oh so it's okay because it's a limitation i'm just like oh no i'm just explaining that like it wasn't something that they could pull off and that i guess then we can talk about how much does it hamper the game for it to be that way and i i really wouldn't argue with amp is it much at all and um yeah and it it doesn't change mechanically what you're able to do in a physical sense like frame rate would it's something that you go in with and that the game is probably go around honestly and something that you have to keep in mind and something you can work with but i don't i i wouldn't consider that a weakness of the game that's right it's a field of view next up is clunky tank movement um that is not a flaw i think so it's a very mechanically consistent yeah there's no such thing mechanically consistent it works really well you just need to learn it it doesn't like that's the way that the game is played well i guess there is such a thing there's clunky tank movement and smooth tank movement and what re4 has is functioning smooth tank movement it is tank movement it's like dead space one where it's it's not clunky it has weight to it but it's really actually it's and all you can do i would argue is like you're going to appeal to how that's not how you move and shoot in real life or you don't have to move that way in real life and i'd be like okay yeah games don't out yeah video games don't comport to real life uh and that's not me saying space wizards that's me saying bloodborne for example i think you can roll in probably let's use doxels one and two i guess like four and eight directions or whatever you'd be like shouldn't it be 360 directions at the very least you'd be like um i mean the more more is preferable but i don't think any game allows you to roll in perfect like every degree possible um games have limits in terms of not being able to best represent reality and a lot of them are put on because what about arc minutes yeah it's like okay i i would say that uh there's there's lots of things you can't do in video games you can do in real life and a lot of them are there because they're trying to craft a mechanically sound system well for example in halo you can't sprint for a reason even though a super soldier probably would want to sprint every now and they can walk they could probably sprint yeah yeah well i mean you see them sprinting cutscenes is like ludonarrative dissonance it's like uh not like in tomb raider where you kill a guy and it's really yeah i would start killing people mercilessly i would probably concede that is a bit of a dissonance but um it's nowhere near as significant exactly yeah it is a dissonance for sure it's just that how important you know like the dissonance of being uncharted that nathan drake is a fun loving adventurer who murders everybody who crosses been called blood and yeah so it's like well why can't i you know not move like a tank it's like the game is built that way uh and the challenges i created around it well i think the interesting thing is you know i think i've seen uh i think chris raygun when he made a video talking about halo is like halo is not meant to be like a real life simulator it's like a game in the same way that chest is a game and these are the rules um the rules were designed this way to facilitate this type of gameplay well i suppose you could go as far as i mean this is a little bit more extreme i don't think people would like this comparison but if i said like i can't play blood born in first person which why it's like i mean not built for that game's not built for that you don't want to yeah i would argue you don't fucking want to play this game first person playing devil may cry in first person you'll get imagine my first person yeah nightmare fuel um i'm cool with tank controls if the game's built around them and that goes for all controls i guess it always does exactly what you tell it to do when you tell it to do it um maybe maybe it's worth addressing because like i hate the controls in classic resident evil and it's not necessarily just the controls it's the camera view as well and my points of conflict are not usually tied to it's like it hampers my ability to be able to act the way i wish to as in the way i aim is changing between every single frame a lot of it is done to trick me and to uh to force me into positions i don't want to be in because i don't i'm not a fan of that in anything how much is that how much is that worth or is it the game being cheap you know in a certain sense creating difficulty where it wouldn't exist otherwise and the the argument is often like yeah but it creates the director gets too like and i say director get to specifically choose like a frame for the scene you get to craft so much about that portion of the game there is tricks to that but i guess the question is how much is that compromise worth like how much does a nice looking level that i'm not even sure that i like surely that's the difficulty of direction is to have something like bloodborne where i can look everywhere and there's something worth seeing or it's it's it's crafted for it but technical limitations at the time like are you talking about resident evil like one and two right uh just yeah well they obviously ditched classic controls as time went on so that's probably indicative of something right well it's worth remembering that for resident evil one and two and three they had to use like pre-rendered backgrounds for the background so they had to be a still image well yeah but we're cancel that out and we're including people arguing that that's an awesome system oh okay no then then at that point i disagree um i think like i think it changes at that point um because technical limitations i can accept but yeah this isn't me saying the game should have been blah blah blah when they can't it's me saying that system is fucking annoying and people being like no it's not like no it's not because yeah it's uh right i get you um and yeah i you know it's harder for me to articulate why exactly it bothers me so much when i've spent so long not playing it you know it's it's been a while i don't search for those sorts of experiences because i fucking find them annoying um yeah i just i figure it's worth cross referencing considering the defenses we're using of um uh tank controls could someone apply them to those controls or camera views what do you think rags about the tank controls so the defense is used for tank controls could they be uh repurposed for defenses of the classic resident evil systems i mean why why i don't like well yeah i i say i hate the old system of movement in the real the old resident evil games i'm i can't call it a flaw of those games really yeah i i don't think i i can't i i don't think i can i don't think i could come up with i could give you reasons why i don't i might not like it but most of them come down to the just the fact that's so unorthodox and i have to it's so unlike any other movement system that i've ever used how far would that extend like could i provide you a system that's like ball in a cup and you have to roll it around three times to move forward and you have to keep doing that would you then conclude like well objectively there's no problem with that it does work consistently i think consistency is a kind of a big key to it it's does it do what i tell it to do um you know is it responsive to my inputs is it consistent and i i couldn't make any i don't think i like the original resident evil movement it just isn't for me i don't enjoy it i don't like it but if someone says i really really like it and they give the reasons i'd be like yeah i i i get it but it's just it's not my thing and just the same way that i defend resident evil forest controls um i'd be willing to uh critique it further than just a subjective position i just would need to play a lot more of it to be able to grasp it more yeah i if if there's something mechanically inconsistent about it or it causes some kind of a functional problem for example when you move from one to another and then you move backward and shit fucks you up especially when enemies are chasing you that grinds my gears like crazy oh then like if you like like oh like when you go from one area to the next area and you keep moving what what is the relationship from the the direction like depending to the thumbsticks direction depending on the engine i suppose um if you hold forward and move through the next direction you will continue walking forward and then if you reset the the uh the joystick for example and then hit left you'll move in that same direction you just aware because now the game is accounted for however some of them you move to the next area then you immediately move backwards because the controls have changed because the camera style has changed so you have to inch it forward first yeah that would be like yeah i call that yeah i'd call that bad because it it will it swaps what you're in like it's not a consistent input um yeah uh and stuff like that is probably what i would be looking to find if i was to make like a full-on critique of this sort of thing but i guess i concede like yeah that's just a non-preferable system for me for now without yeah as i avoid it is my whole point basically yeah it the idea itself i can't come up with any at least at the right now being on the spot any reason why it's objectively bad um i can come up with you know i my own reasons why i don't like it but a lot of it has like like it like the best possibly executed version of the original resonant evil camera and movement system i mean it's just just isn't for me it's not something i like um but you know i i couldn't say it's bad i would wonder what your reasons would be that you would consider exclusively subjective i guess uh i i don't i thought it was what you just said no i i no i i've been talking about consistency and it's you know mechanical execution of it and it's relationship to the controls as a standard no you haven't i i was the one who said that you said that you wouldn't call it uh objectively bad just subjectively i if if it had certain issues i call it typically bad like yeah so i'm curious what your reasons are but i haven't played it enough to know all of its ah in okay so if we rags yeah no i no i i gave my i gave my criteria well why did you disagree with me what i just said is what you just said well you said i you said it was awesome you said i said it was just subjective yeah that's what you said no i my reasons for not liking it are subjective all right now i'm just fucking confused yeah you're running me in circles mate what do you want me to do with this i don't know it it's just i could clarify anything if you need me to so uh is this a characterization of what you've just said your issues with original resident evil control slash camera system are that of your own personal preference and then i said i would be curious to know what those reasons are and how they are exclusively subjective because i'd be like if you were to label reasons and they actually cut out for a little bit uh my reasons are what exclude like i so what i gathered was you have reasons and they are subjective and i was like i'd like to know those reasons and how they are exclusively subjective rather because i would assume you'd relate them to mechanics uh no my subjective no my subjective reasons for not liking it or it's a lack of familiarity with them in that i just i don't like the way that the character moves in relationship to what my inputs are it's i mean if i if i devoted a lot of time to it it's very possible that i could warm up to them immensely do you mean like when you've got your characters moving from let's say the left to the right but holding forward on the d-pad pushes you right is that kind of thing what you're talking about yeah it's it's like if i was playing it yeah it's it's a very unfamiliar set of controls i have very little experience with that i'd have to learn uh that i can't relate to really anything else um that i wouldn't really enjoy playing but that's what that's pretty much why i i didn't enjoy it um but as i said why i didn't uh but if i devoted a lot of time to it and learn the intricacies of it and i learned the in and out so yeah i just learned all the details of it maybe i would come up with objective reasons it depends on what those details are i'm not familiar enough with it to make an objective assessment but yeah that's pretty my position yeah but tentatively i don't see anything objectively wrong with it now and they like conceptually my objective issues with it would come from the the the details and its execution um yeah well the example i gave was obviously the uh it was dependent on the system because like it might not be present in some it is in others and i know that i've experienced it um i think it's conceptually totally fine but the its execution would determine its objective quality yeah because there's gonna be people who are really really good at it yeah like there's nothing objectively wrong with a game and it's the only game where the green a button is actually canceling back and the red b button is accept and yes it's not objectively bad it's just i see why a lot of people would hate that and why that would seemingly almost specifically be created to frustrate people yeah no i line up i line up with that completely and that was the only reference i have off the top of my head and if i was to play more of it i might be able to find more but no guarantees so rags doesn't like re tank controls because he has played games with better input controls he hasn't had to put so much effort into no like the resident evil tank controls they're not like some alien creature from another planet you just can't strafe yeah i guess that's why i would be curious to ask of the people who dislike it i'd be like is it the fact that you can't shoot and move at the same time yeah is that it you just can't strafe left and right that like that that's basically the only difference that it has with other things you turn left and right you rotate left and right you can move forwards and back you have a dedicated about face function you just can't strafe left and right that that's it it's not like some weird foreign alien creature you discovered under a rock and beetle juice or whatever like it's not it's not far from what you're you use all the time you just can't stray that's it okay i got nothing for this um well because i do i do find the conversation interesting because i think i'm um i'm an extremist in the so for example i think i've told you guys before but a friend of mine was incredible metroid hunters on ds right that's what it was metroid hunters yeah metroid hunters yeah he um yeah so he knew exactly and was really good at the ds controls and he would dominate in like matches against anybody and it's just the kind of thing we are like god i can't fucking stand those controls and he's like oh yeah i bet i could beat you while you're on mouse and keyboard it's like hmm first of all that that's a whole other conversation but secondly like does that not highlight like if everybody just liked ds controls does that then mean that mouse and keyboard sucks or something it's like not really it's just yeah like there's it's complicated right because apex legends right now where and i would legitimately call it an issue that needs to be resolved i haven't played that game in a couple weeks um but there's cross play between mouse and keyboard users and uh controller controller and one of the big issues is that the aim assist is so incredibly strong for the controller users that a lot of people are just swapping to that because up close especially where a lot of fights are won and lost um the the aim assist is so good and snapping on targets is so good that it doesn't matter if you can't if you're inferior in all other situations that snapping and auto aim is so fucking good that you just want to have the controller to do the work for you because it's so efficient i wonder if that's like i've had a lot of players that i've been playing with for a long time who are really good like i play with a good bunch of guys i'm pretty darn good myself but they'll be they just like straight up have dropped mouse and keyboard and are playing on controller now just because the aim assist is so crazy good let's say that's that's relevant in that context but like that would be irrelevant ultimately uh ultimately of like the actual control scheme rather it's just a variable it's applied to it like mouse and keyboard could have auto aim right but yeah it could but i might yeah is it is that a considered a part of control scheme um in the same way like southpaw is a not the guy that orientates like for halo you could have southpaw is an option for controls like lefties or whatever or you could have like bump is melee instead of x things with your um what was your point there that like even controller can outplay pc if the right things are applied to the thing well it's it's is a is the software aspect a part of the control scheme i'm not sure because i guess my brain right now wants to separate the input of moving stick left you move left versus software applied where you will automatically be pushed to all the person's head and you just have to you know shoot is different and the um this is something that could apply to all of those schemes rather than the schemes themselves being applied so like you know spin ball around cup three times to move left is uh versus press w to move left on keyboard versus hit control stick left to move left they're like the comparisons and then automatically move left based on or automatically complete game based on moving anything and either of those control schemes is like software versus uh i'm not sure what the words i'm looking for i just seem it feels like there's a distinction there maybe and that um aim assist like because imagine they said okay just to solve the problem of aim assist with controllers beating out mouse and keyboard more consistently we will now apply aim assist to pc as well and that all mouse and keyboards will automatically would you here's a question um do you think that like magnetism and aim assist are the same or that there's a distinction between the two um they i think it's uh i think it's a distinction without much of a difference uh they're both different ways to accomplish the same thing well i guess it's interesting right because like for instance call of duty has hardcore aim assist like on consoles where like the the camera starts to slow down over the enemy but then you have oh yeah five where it's straight up the bullets if you miss will fly towards the enemy's head um you know system like that where there is a difference there is a difference that is almost without a difference yeah it's basically there are two different ways of executing the same goal which is how do we get people to how do we treat people into thinking they're better than they are yeah pretty much it's how do we make this control scheme just so much more forgiving it makes people want to play it more because it makes them think that they're better than they really are well it's funny it was in that halo five vidoc we trick people well they didn't say trick but make people think that they're awesome it's like that they're not though yeah they're clearly missing but we're just going to curve the but it's like do do you want to tamper with the character's aim or do you want to tamper with the bullets once they're fired i mean it's yeah you know at what stage is your tampering happening yeah also someone said beetle juice mixing your genres there rags no beetle juice is a star beetle juice is a star yeah yeah it's a giant red giant that's right i think so it may have already exploded and we just don't know it yet yeah um i hear it i yeah so i i heard that when beetle juice which is relative it's it's due to explode it's about 600 million light years away but uh it's like 600 million light years away but i heard one of them does explode no that's 600 oh 600 600 million would be in a different solar in a different like that's so far away that's so far away i just didn't know who was going but the uh when it explodes it will be brighter than the full moon for over a month yeah it'll be uh it'll be because i think the last time there was a massive supernova that was visible from earth was in the middle ages people thought the end was there you know what i mean wow supernovas aren't that common most of the red dwarfs um i mean yeah the time the time span of a it's like why it's like when you go outside you hardly see any woman who's pregnant right but all these people had to come from somewhere so how come i never see a pregnant woman like well there are times you know time frames basically there there's your analogy folks yeah supernovas are like pregnant women they're around supernovas are like pregnant women yeah i feel like father gash jone isn't as good when he's in the second stage cast going so that's a thing i'll be right back also he has three stages uh does he yeah so which stage are you referring to his facts he killed me when he's a giant monster dude yeah that's his third phase and i i can understand being frustrated with that one yeah well he just killed me pretty quickly i was having also hides to the people watching my stream it's been like 40 minutes i haven't seen well now i saw somebody before apparently there was simpson's quote she meant to be asking me i think we've tangented more in this one than like anything ever just because yeah there's a thing we all have big video game backgrounds we like talking mechanics and not just actually this is what you pay for guys all right yeah well it's just funny because like the whole goal is to catch up on super chastity i think we have probably got the same amount to go through now that we got through so but i know that's what happens um and you never know because any questions could be anything so the first of this simpson's set is fringy's hot take is that old simpson's episodes are funny oh i i mean i i don't even know what to say to that like you're just kind of categorically wrong if you think the old stuff isn't funny like i actually don't know what to say to you um yeah especially if they're including just classic era rather than season one or something no not yeah season one you know i'm happy to exclude that but like seasons two through eight i think is what we all agree is like the best stuff and yeah that stuff is incredible the amount of jokes they cram in for like the amount of time they have is kind of incredible like um i remember we watched that that clip where it was um but uh sabotage the weather balloon so it said um what did it say on skinner i'm a big but yeah and then the jokes with the the air force pilots the idea is like did you laugh at big but skinner and you could be like no i didn't it's like okay did you laugh at skinner suggesting to children that you should use this like kind of vandalism in order to protect his ego did you laugh at that you know no i didn't like did you laugh at rocks in his car i'm gonna go through them all so it's like if you didn't laugh at that do you laugh at the rocks landing on his car it's like no i didn't like did you laugh at the fact that he said whoa that's my car stop and then they continue to throw them knowing that it's his car do you laugh at that it's like no like did you laugh at the skinner where he ordered willy to pull out a shotgun and shoot it down did you laugh at the fact that willy just had a shotgun on school grounds to shoot down did you laugh at the fact that two fighter jets were flying overhead we're getting shot at and when they scanned they found out that groundskeeper willy was an iraqi fighter jet and like did you laugh whether or not like you know eventually just be like we've crossed over about 30 seconds of episode time like this is incredible work and and all character based as well so and then you know i hate to be a dick but it's just like compared to bojack like the jokes per minute is an incredible rate and so i guess what i'm saying is um whether or not you're laughing at any particular one is almost likely going to be at least one that's tailor made to you in terms of like oh that's just funny just the fact that they're shotgunnings i keep saying shotgunning shotgunning is slow that they're just machine gunning you know like in wonder woman 1984 how they fire a machine gun and one bullet comes out they're doing it like that machine gunning those why the fact that she caught a bullet out of the sky with a lasso she's telling you guys get hype for efat movies double feature yeah fun so what what was the rest of the stuff with the simpson's jokes then all right well so that was the opener the next was um what is your favorite either simpson episode or simpson joke or simpson moment dude that's i don't know what i default to is the um the i don't know if it was 20 something mini stories in one episode of simpson's yeah that was pretty fantastic then uh lisa ron ice is another one of my favorite ones as well lisa ron ice the ending it's all it's all great the whole episode's great if all right pi i'm gonna walk towards you let's do it this um um um and get in it's your own fault um um um oh oh oh the hell i love the idea that he was an actual pain he did play it up still but he's like you know what no one's around there's a pie i mean the pie like that's an excellent episode i have the doom state i just love the the fact that he's like hey homer if you if you want to kill someone on your way out that would really help me a lot nice pj simpson did your mommy buy him for you of course he did who else would have all right simpson you win this he's like he's like good battle and boss just confused what what are you i think the hard part when it comes to figure out which simpson's episodes are like the best is partly because there's a balancing act between the ones i found the funniest and the ones that got me most in the fields yeah this is a good chance my favorite moment is probably going to be drama rather than comedy it was a good chance i think my favorite moment in the simpson's is when homer's mom leaves and he's sitting on the car looking at the the sky like every time every single time that gets me um i kind of adore that that scene um and everything is like firing on 11 in terms you know like the music just the the imagery it's pretty powerful that homer simpson's been sitting there for so long thinking this doofus like you know because homer i think that's one of the key things that separates uh the simpson from family guys like regardless of your perspective on the humor which obviously the simpson is better um regardless of your perspective on the humor like family guy doesn't often have like i i feel like i feel like the best episode of family guy is the one where um it's that episode it's like 45 minute long episode where it's stewie and uh the bottle episode where stewie and brian are sitting in the uh in the the storage locker and then they have the conversation about how they're basically each other's best friend it's like that's the best scene in the show but to get there you have to step through a lot of jokes that don't really land like the poop one um and that's like it but in terms of the characterization i mean peter griffin is awful like he's a really bad person i don't believe that he actually cares about his family where it's like he's homer simpson absolutely does well which leads in nicely like i think like genuinely the moment i always come back to his is do it for her it's the classic like the homer simpson gave up his dream job an arguably dream life so that he could give maggie a good upbringing it's like damn yeah i mean the homer and maggie relationship is uh quite well fleshed out yeah maggie's pretty awesome um maggie's a character for a baby who doesn't say anything yeah unlike other babies you don't say unlike other babies yeah or even unlike babies who say a lot but all of them are better than fucking ice age baby fuck ice age why do you hate ice age baby fuck ice age baby no i know but why fuck him yeah actually why i don't like the ice age baby annoying noises oh it's a baby i didn't know you hate ice age baby i have decided at this moment god i really hate ice age revelation somebody said i'm not powering at all yeah is this this is what it's going to be tomorrow just hey you're playing the souls games wrong every time your people can't just leave me alone let me play this game how i right that's like a double edged sword of well probably not a double edged sword is not the right to him but just at one moment i'm like fuck all of them for not letting someone just play a game learn of the second moment it's like why wouldn't they be saying stuff when they're invested in the game and the player like of course they're gonna say stuff and they're gonna say that stuff like i mean i've been getting it all night but to be honest with you it's like it's it's fine i don't mind being bad at blood blowing uh i lost all my white and are my blood vials but yeah what was your your commentary on fringy and mollers gameplay could be constructive i don't feel like i don't feel like i've died a lot every critical comment that you make like every piece of friendly advice you give has the implicit well implication that something could be improved so you don't have to say that part wow rags is telling you guys to be nice that's where we're at chat that's where we're at be nice to moller and fringy all right yeah i know you don't say that shit for me so at least be nice to him punished rags punished rags you're gonna set up without a bit of motion yeah and then you gotta walk through your base killing all the other shibu yeah i would argue i've made significant progress considering my apparent terribleness at this game maybe that's evidence that i found a way to be able to beat the game that isn't necessarily great design not implying anything by saying that okay oh my goodness no i'm getting stuff but what was the rest of the the chat because i like oh well so we i guess we went over our favorite moments oh jesus christ that was definitely my fault i didn't look at my health box i have very little experience with simpsons i haven't watched much of it but i remember when i was young it probably won't be funny at all but when i was young one part that made me laugh my ass off because i wasn't allowed to watch simpsons when i was a kid um was homer was at work and he was describing a movie he saw he said i saw this movie he's not gonna co-work i saw this movie last night you know it's about i already know what this is yeah it was about this bus and is this guy's driving this bus and you know they had to stay you know driving down the highway and they had to stay about 50 miles an hour and if they didn't then the bus would blow up because of these bombs because i can't remember what was called i think it was called the bus that couldn't slow down yep that's it funniest damn thing i think i'd ever heard of my life up to that point he even the best thing about it is how relatable it is he got the detail right i'm pretty sure which is that um it had to keep the speed above 50 and if it speed dropped it would explode i think it was called like he's like he's got the the premise right and even the name right is that him speed is that the x files episode um maybe the x files episode oh i love that part where it was like i bring you love oh he's frigging love kill it yeah look it's bringing love don't let it get away break its legs oh you bastard birds kill it yeah uh rags the they think an alien is in the forest and it's saying weird things because it's mr birds but he's high and he says um i bring you love other than like the reaction should obviously be like oh how wholesome it is like break its legs don't let it get away it's bringing love that joke it's one of the many rung and gags of most illegal activities yeah like fbi huh hold on and then there's a whale there all right that runs to us get him back to sea world at the end of the episode they're carrying the whale oh god who knew whales were so heavy oh jeez i know i've talked to free about this in private calls so pretend that wipe your memory for me okay so there's this joke where um home is having trouble with i think it's marital problems with marge it's not really relevant mo suddenly gives incredibly meaningful advice rags the kind that you're like wow that's that's like that's probably gonna be perfect for the situation and they're like what have you done with the real moe and then they all laugh and the camera pads to the back of the tavern and moe is tied up going it's just this joke that's never play off an old joke it's it's never addressed this is like what the funny thing that's just evil moe i just i've never had so many good jokes with moe um like oh what was the the one where he was doing the taxi driver scene it's like talking to me there's no one else here you must be talking to me he pulls his gun out the smash yeah well that was an antique crap trap if you haven't gathered me and fringy have uh simpsons embedded into our memory yeah the simpsons is probably i feel like if i had to pick a favorite show that was like i feel like comedy and drama at this point i do have to separate but like comedy it probably is the simpsons i think for a long time i said south park well it gets the the accolade for both of us of formative that's the show we were probably watching as early as i remember absolutely it was like the show that made me like media i think and it also happens to be a show that's really fucking good i think that's the interesting thing is like we've had the fortune of growing up at a time when a lot of good stuff was coming out i mean like you look at cartoon networks output in the late 90s and the early 2000s there was a lot of good stuff there like um johnny bravo um pow puff girls was really good um dexter's lab at ed nitty i love ed ed nitty yeah it's just some really good stuff um there's a nice safe time where content was trying to make you laugh and enjoy it rather than punish you for existing reliably good um and now it's uh yeah code name kids next door i liked a lot too um it's probably good that you brought it up the whole like drama and comedy are kind of just their own things uh because i'd probably say my favorite show if it's just based on comedy it's old but hogan's heroes is pretty funny there's my jams i love funny as well actually i always liked that show more than bewitched bewitched was a little too um flat i think it was too mundane and normal whereas like i dream of genie kind of embraced uh a little bit more like it was a little bit more forward i think for the time of the old ones i'd say hogan's heroes gilligan's island and green acres oh sandford and sun was fucking hilarious was that that was based on steppard and sun right the british show though maybe i don't know i'm not familiar with it but it's very yeah obviously was another pretty important show too for me which sorry even moving up a little bit you have um like a married with children see i'm not as big of a fan of because really like the main 90s sitcom i like is seinfeld i often have to get into arguments with people because a lot of people think seinfeld's stupid and it's not i never saw the one i saw of that equivalent i guess would be friends i was never a fan of friends i would have never been a fan of it but i saw a lot of it like i don't i don't even know that i would say it's bad or anything i just you know it was that was the slot it filled if if you will because obviously that was for another time i was watching buffy and angels well but they don't really they don't slot the same way as a seinfeld or a friends well i think seinfeld as a kid it's easy for it to all become noise because the the episodes themselves like it's a show about nothing like that so it's really easy to lose track of like that what that show is but obviously when you watch as an adult it's like seinfeld is just really good and i've been up to get into arguments with people about trying to explain why i think that show is really funny um but i haven't watched all of it so like it's not it's not super high on my list of you know like favorite things ever yeah oh everyone everybody loves raymond oh i watched the shit out of that yeah i love that show everyone loves raymond he's fucking hilarious his dad was like my favorite character it's fucking hilarious i respect mash could be good mash is probably good but every time i feel like mash made me laugh they were ready to make me feel like he did do you remember um bringing community where two of the characters are arguing over classic comedic shows from britain and america and i think abed says mash and then uh fuck i forgot his name that's bad the john oliva's character all right john oliva i can't remember his name either well he says faulty towers gave over faulty towers is fucking amazing by the way yeah faulty towers is probably one of the best comedies ever made um and i i guess we gotta mention money pythons flying circus yeah and i'd want to probably mention black out of black out of specifically black out of what's man yeah i think i think season two is pretty good i think season three is great i think season four is fabulous season four is fucking great black out or someone brought it up in chat i can't believe i had mentioned it before golden girls i never watched that oh it's great golden girls is good shit what's the premise of golden girls all i know is it's old women living together and it's hilarious because they're all so different you know they all they the three of them have distinct personalities whoa i'm not saying that to make fun of you i'm saying like calm down three women yeah three women each distinct personalities and you know it is well developed characters it's someone said rags is cashing in on this game of course rags likes the grandmas dude that's just hilarious it was really really funny that i'm a lot of these shows were all mentioning i'm pretty sure they all have really strong baseline characters that drive them as well i think black out of ghost fourth is a good example like black out or is this cynical sort of a dry humor pessimist and it reflects in a lot of like the right approaches the episode right it's trying to get out of doing these things that will get him killed yeah the format start like like solidified in season two and it went forward it's just you have the hierarchy is he's usually underneath somebody who's stupid but of high power um each of the three two three and four are different rulers but they're all fucking stupid and he's trying his best to evade yeah them essentially getting him killed all the hardest jobs of that time period and then bold rick is like his his you know underling of whatever type of the time period and then Hugh Laurie is usually in it at some point yeah and um yeah man some of the fucking jokes in black out of all things i'll never forget yeah the the what was it oh um what was the what's the the secret plan should i guess that the secret plan is that we charge the enemy walking slowly it's like black out how do you know that that's classified information yeah oh we did before and 17 times before that exactly and that's what's so brilliant about it it will catch the watchful hunt completely off guard doing exactly the same thing we've done 17 times before is the last thing they'd expect this time and his sort of underling is called darling captain darling until they're like what do you want darling it just fucking works every single time is kind of amazing there is one small problem that we all die before we get there yes and then what was it he said like um you want me to go into the middle of no man's land drawing pictures precisely good man well uh i'm afraid it will be pitch dark i won't be able to see a thing indeed that's true you know what we'll send up a couple of plans you'll be like a tree what is what is standard procedure when you uh when you found that you stepped on a bind and he says well you uh you launch yourself several meters into the air and separate yourself into a thousand different pieces like i just love the fact that the audience that took them a second to realize how stupid what is standard procedure when you step on a mind yeah it's like a five second pause on hey if if what you trip on a mind what should we do and it's like the audience is like wait what the what wait what like what are you saying um i just love the fact that what was it that they said like um it says mine i guess this belongs to the guy who made the map do you remember um one of the opening jokes for a blackout episode was bold rick is is carving up on a bullet and blackadder is like what are you doing and he's like um oh he says like do you know what i'm up to and like i think blackout just looks at him goes like whatever it's gonna be it's gonna be really dissatisfied he's like what are you doing he's like i'm carving the name bold rick into this bullet set and it just pauses and the whole audience is laughing because they already know what the joke's gonna be and he's like you know how they say there's a bullet with your name on it if i have it then it can't shoot me i think i think what i find so impressive about black out of ghost sport there's the fact that it's this insanely funny show that has a really poignant ending absolutely yeah they show that in a history class they were so like it's such a well sort of it hits you really well i think that's i think you know in your tfa video which i recently will watch she used as an example of how you can blend humor and drama in the same scene yeah um i mean that's a good example because it's just um there are a lot of jokes but as it treads on people stop laughing even though the jokes are really good just because it's like we all know what's about to happen you got a sense of reverence you're like man this is a goofy show but i appreciate the point you're making there yeah so i mentioned it in chat uh andy griffith's show so i don't find that funny at all i just don't think i never gotten to andy griffith show at all the humor of the time just does not translate well to me at all it was weird because i love hogan's heroes and stuff like that green acres things of that nature but any griffith was just never never got it it was too i don't know pure it was too i don't know some of some about it it was just never funny i haven't seen it so i uh yeah i don't know i guess i saw somebody post it in my chat that was interesting fringy have you ever read the tv tropes article sinfield is unfunny because it's a good description of why a lot of young people don't like sinfield namely that it was a formative to american sitcoms and everything has copied it since so other people have seen the copies so the jokes feel rehashed when they circle back in time that's super complicated because uh that's a lot like people like oh you should hate um resident evil four and i mean i can't refuse a particular card or maybe use a wall but basically things that set trends that other people started doing oh i think that's the point that the article was making that it's unfair to criticize oh okay things copied it you know what i mean yeah like why would it be unfunny if it was really groundbreaking at the time and then everybody else i i know what you mean it's like annoying when people like oh modern warfare too man because everybody copied pic 10 not pic 10 but like you know classes and kill districts it's like that's not call the duty's fault that everybody else copied them um super unfair i think in the same way that it's unfair to judge dark souls for the fact that everything gets compared to what then everybody's trying to copy it yeah and mark brown was like the souls genre it begins it's like no there's no soul genre i mean souls is like part of the metroidvania genre if you're gonna like if there was a broader genre that it falls i just i don't even mean whether or not it has value for sort of determining the difference between certain things it just it didn't catch on as a thing nobody says right oh what kind of game is this like oh it's a souls game it's like no one says that which is funny because people say metroidvania and it's kind of the same thing it's a genre based on the games that pioneered it well the reality is that a lot of people just say um it shares things with dark souls and one of the key ones is when you die your valuables are dropped on where you died and if you don't get them back in that next life they're gone forever that that mechanic is something that a lot of things do now and if they do it's like oh it's like dark souls it's kind of unfortunate that uh i'm sure i'm supposed to go then again it's kind of an issue of just reviewers kind of beat it into the ground comparing everything to dark souls yeah because they were painfully unoriginal and they needed something that was quick and it's not like you're paid to write it's not like that's your job and that you should be able to come up something a little bit more clever than hey it's like dark souls like i'm i'm gonna specifically avoid any dark souls reference well yeah i'm do you remember because i've never played dark souls it was an era for video essays where the meme is like how long until they reference dark souls it's like that's not good that's a thing and i think even in one of my videos when i reference dark souls i put like in text obligatory dark souls reference or something because but it was relevant but now it's it's different it'll be elden ring or whatever that's coming out that game was announced two years ago i think it's still not out um makes you wonder then again halo infinite was announced in like 2018 and now here we are in 2020 and it's still a year away i wonder about that game the fact that they were so prepared to release it this year and that needed another year that's a little less and yeah that that makes you wonder what was the horseshit that we would have gotten well i think i think it's the whole question of if the graphics didn't look so bad i wonder you know what i mean like i wonder um if people hadn't called out the graphics would they have even given a shit and that says a lot about a gaming culture doesn't it i think it's an issue of the fact that uh that this game really needed this was i mean i'm pretty sure it's on the box for like the xbox series x and it's like yeah this was meant to be the launch title because unfortunately microsoft's kind of just not ready everyone's saying it's 2021 fringy like oh sony did it i guys lead better do it too well i it's funny because now microsoft is because i funnily enough um that new studio they found it in the back of my mind i'm like you guys are making you guys are going to reboot perfect dark aren't you and then they did um and that's what they're doing i'm like yeah i you know what i had a feeling i had a bit of a i'm stuck i can't get out he blocked me into a so i'm not watching the gameplay so that was a really odd sentence it's um but yeah i uh i i don't know why i got the hunch but now it's like we're in a situation where right i said it in uh that video i made that i think we've reached a point where like sony is like oh third person cinematic action adventure that's what gets us the accolades so we do that um and that's all they do now and now microsoft's like hey we're making like first person shooters third person shooters action rpg strategy games um they're making everything so like microsoft's on what i know i might rather have an xbox i just i get more different games well it's just think about like what their what their studios are so you got 343 which you know whether or not you like them they are you know they're making first person shooters but they're also making strategy games in the form of halo wars um and they're still making those well they made halo wars two a couple years ago so i'm i'm guessing they're probably gonna make another halo wars um so you got that and then it's like all right um you got like the guys but you've got two different forts of games you've got like an arcadey game in forts of horizon and then you've got a strat you know like a simulation racing game in forts of seven or whatever you know the mainline forts are and it's like well what does what does sony have they have grand charisma so they only have one out of two of those things it's like oh that's not so great um also they've now got obsidian which means that they've got rpg's they've got they've got a lot of rpg's and a lot of ip's that are really valuable um they have the only rpg's that a lot of people care about yeah um because a lot of people only play one rpg and it's whatever elder scrolls they're playing they've got a monopoly on western rpg's the only other western rpg developers because they've got the thersedan of city and so who's left fireware larian um yeah i guess yeah um and uh sorry there are other things too as well but i'm just losing track with the moment they have like that gear tactics as well and and this is what i mean is like if you give it time eventually they're probably gonna have a really good catalog like it seems like microsoft just spent the last few years having learned their mistakes for a longer term decision i think so whereas i think sony has now and when you fall in game pass as well which is a really good deal oh yeah the microsoft game pass thing is like a stellar ball yeah like everyone like look it up like it might really be something that you'll like especially now that they've got the thersedan it's like wow you got like all of the thersedas games holy crap um that's a really good deal and when you have all that and all sony's doing is like the last of us and stuff um and of course i'm not trying to because i know like got a ball like i enough people have said how good that is that i'm willing to bet that it's really good and that's great but what if you don't want that type of experience it's like oh then i guess don't buy a playstation i'm not sure how good that is yeah i don't want to be miserable so i guess i'll buy an xbox well i guess it's just the idea of you know if you like these types of games and that's great but if you don't i hope you really like them i hope you really like them is basically the takeaway from micro from sony's you know platform you know um sort of styles being infected in the recent humble monthly there's a game in there was a horror game and i was like oh wonder if it's any good i look on the store page and then look at the gameplay and it's like one to one the kind of shit you see in um i don't know what you would call it but just until dawn style when you walk you walk and then there's one thing to interact with and you walk and i was just like oh no i'm fine what game was this i don't know the name of it was but the point was that like the idea that some developers have like been like you know that until dawn style that's good because you know that looks easy to make that's my cynical sort of take on it i feel like on some dream uh style more so than the until dawn one right sorry what did you say i i would say that like heavy rain was probably the well so when i say until dawn there's a reason i choose that rather than something like heavy rain and it's because until dawn is empty fucking hollow and it's funny because i say that about until dawn when man of medan is more hollow than that and then little hope is more hollow than that so whatever that is um it is fucking put me off that style like forever pretty much i'm just like fuck you like i can't be asked to deal with that little hope has ruined it for me i never want to play another game like that like ever um and i guess the problem with those games is that they because they're so mechanically shallow they they really lean hardcore on story and if the story is bad then they kind of don't have anything to offer that's the thing man the little hope story is not just bad it's barely like anything so you just watch a couple people die then you're like by the way this was someone's mental illness perceiving a bunch of people dying you're like okay even their illusions were shit that's what i mean when you have the kind of power to do something like that and that's all you came out with okay yeah try harder please that'd be nice i was i was talking to someone today in fact about um like there was someone that was got to talk about games i said i think that if i was gonna actually try to rank it i would say that fallout 76 is the worst game i've played but yeah it was like yeah it was it was it was enjoyable in this incident i know you're going with this but it's because i said i brought up to him also with the asterisk of there's some other it has to like work and be functional sort of yeah fallout 76 was just functional enough to where you could call it a completed game in its own as the inception that it released in um but i'll say like stuff like little hope they they really test the definition of what a game can be so i kind of have to put it into its own category like it's funny but it's really really true that one especially there is so little gameplay in it and by the way yeah when there are qt sections where if you fail them or succeed them the same thing happens so oh what's the point yeah so it's just you kind of sit there wondering like is this even mashed up in the in the quick time events there were usually story consequences for that imagine being like deficient weight that heavy rain wasn't this thing they've only gotten worse it's like you'd think they would have improved but never mind i remember when i was a kid i well a kid i was not i was older than that but like when i was younger i uh i really liked heavy rain um i thought it was well written i mean i haven't played it so it's not uh well at least i like the premise of that game um but the writing is pretty wonky the dialogue is not good because david cageton a very good dialogue writer i mean have you seen like detroit become human that game is about as subtle as a fucking car yeah about a brick to the head yeah hey the robots are people and it's like yeah they're obviously people they're free thinking agents of course they're people yeah like you can't you can't do this you have to make it more questionable for it to mean anything you have to do a you have to do measure of a man's stuff like in star trek you can't you can't or the white front of things you know where it's yeah i don't know i think i think um that game kind of it's just you know like it thinks that it has a lot to say but unfortunately i guess the problem is like i feel like a much more interesting conversation about ai and whether or not it's intelligent it's like what type of intelligence is it um because it's probably going to be different from us in uh in ways that are appreciable and if not it's worth exploring why that may be like if like if ai behaves like a like a person is that because we made it's like is the reason why ai thinks in the same way that we do because we invented it um you know in the same way that like a lot of religions say like oh well you know we're like you know god made us in his image it's like okay well then maybe we make ai in our image that might be interesting but um i mean yeah you wouldn't i mean we wouldn't make something that's totally foreign and ununderstandable and incomprehensible to ourselves oh well i think i think it's more fundamental than that the way that we would approach creating ai is probably just going to invariably leads with thinking like us in certain ways or if not that might be worth exploring as opposed to no they're just people um i just i think that's boring and also making that robots look like human beings makes a lot harder as well like if the robots it's kind of like what that movie chappy was supposed to be right where it's like a robot that it looks like a robot but in a most like human that's more interesting to me than uh than a strictly human being and i say this is something that really likes blade runner and in that they're people but blade runner has a lot more going for it as well that detroit become human doesn't even come close to achieving so back to simpson's yep the uh the other question was um where does south park sit in comparison to simpson's future on the family guy american dad sort of thing uh well like i said earlier i think i usually ranked south park at the top but i think um it's kind of changed a little bit where like it's a little hard do we consider an error we said all of it you know what i mean yeah um because if you consider all of south park i think south park has been a lot more consistently funny um like south park is still south park was funny for a lot more than 10 years yeah but so was simpson's um simpson's was funny past the golden age uh i don't know if because if we were just saying like do you think that the first 10 seasons of the simpson's better than south park it's like probably yeah but do you think south park as a whole is stronger than the simpson's probably um if you take it all together yeah and i think i also appreciate a lot what south park has to say about the world and about the way that people behave like in terms of its commentary i'm quite a fan um i don't know but as for where it sits next like future armor future armor sits quite highly on my list um so does archer archer is pretty high up on my list too um but like eyeballing it i probably go number one really is a tie between simpson's and south park it is tough to choose between them and um if we're talking just your favorite sort of stuff and era it's like okay simpson's is going to win out then south park then uh if the other selection includes future armor family guys american dad it'll be next is future armor then american dad then family guy i haven't watched enough of uh american dad i think i just i don't know enough about it lots of good memories from american dad always felt stronger american dad was secretly the better show that's what i heard i don't hear much pushback on that honestly like i don't really know many people who are like oh i'm a super avid family guy fan you know i guess it's because family family guy was more popular um whereas american dad kind of flew under the radar a little bit i think a lot of people especially when they were young they kind of like only watched family guy and so they thought it was like more amazing than it actually was yeah well i think i think it's the problem of like and it's you know south park talked about it in the cartoon wars episode like family guy's pretty lazily written um it's just hey this this is a funny gag whereas in like a good show you actually it's not just about coming up with gags it's about writing a joke that fits into the story you're telling character based i mean god damn like eric just said it outright don't compare me to family guy when i make jokes they're inherent to the story deep situational emotionally nuanced but not just one it's a tangible joke it was obviously very deliberate of them when he says behind the scenes commentary they're like yeah we we we don't respect family guy like we we think they don't work very hard um it's just a bunch of it's so many of the jokes are just non sequiturs randomly appearing well and they they hurt the flow of the story because every time that something's happening somebody we like this is like the time something happened and then it's like oh all right this will be funny but it will have nothing to do with anything because i think i think that's the hard part when you talk about what's wrong with family guys like but these cutaways are funny it's like yeah a lot of them are funny but this is really easy to do i i don't think people really it's not as it's not as easy as just what bojack does where puns puns are easier than what family guy does um imagine that family a comedy writing them bojack i'm well family guy has made me laugh yes bojack doesn't even if it's dumb and it's detrimental to the stories they're telling and it's really cheap it still has produced laughs yes um like i mean i really like that joke where um yeah somebody put it in chat remember the time it's like yeah that's you think that's bad remember that time i you know and then there's your joke that's the format and you know i i guess that's why i think i like robot chicken more than family guy because like robot chicken cuts out the pretense like that's what robot chicken is it's loose jokes um yeah it's like a variety show in a way well it's a sketch show and i think yeah because that show like yeah that's what we do we just make sketch jokes so yeah that's probably the ordering then um but if bojack was thrown into that does it actually sit at the bottom for comedy value is that what you're saying fringy i think so too so springy is getting dangerously close to triggering rags how how by what did rags you a big fan of family guys no it's it's just it has made me laugh yeah that's all i said with family guys made me laugh maybe they interpreted that as you being like springy it makes me laugh well i mean it's made me laugh yeah but i mean i guess it's worth clarifying like i do find family guys be funny yeah i don't find it so funny anymore but there are a lot of ways it made me laugh a lot i watched a whole bunch of it there must have been a reason like it definitely i mean it seems like fast food comedy in a kind of way yeah that's a analogy really easy to get into um and of course when you're like the perfect demographic for it when it was at a prime you know like i was the perfect demographic for that show um edgy teenager who are and especially when the simpsons were starting to really like not be so funny anymore when that show came around i think it's the family guy kind of took off yeah i honestly remember it being portrayed as like this is adult simpsons it's like yeah all right but really the simpsons was adult simpsons well i guess it's different between like child-friendly adult friendly and then immature and mature right yeah of course because family guy definitely uh you know would have been rated higher than simpsons in terms of age rating i guess of course like i had something there and it was important and now it's gone forever damn uh what about um what is what is bob sorgas i have not seen i have not seen it either because i like that show but i haven't seen it i've seen maybe half of well actually less than half that show has been on for like 10 years soon about three or four seasons and i liked it um but i'm not sure where it would uh where it would sit uh on that list do you watch adventure time i yeah i have only watched half of them so that was a good investment i'm like that that's one of those low key i'm a super fan of it it's uh oh no one said bojack was worse because it's just puns it's like yeah but my puns are good it's not just oh what a bunch of you guys acting like a bunch of vultures and then it pans over and there's vulture standing there like that's not right isn't a tv show and it's not all he does there are obvious variables here molly you forgot that you forgot that part well no you you did that part there's i'm trying to add to your defenses i wanted to hear it i want to hear my own opinions in someone else's voice wait are you guys getting angry at me for not just for not agreeing that puns it's double time if you can make a pun it makes me laugh off the cuff that's worth a lot more than a pun you wrote and then went through redraft and then rewrote like a pun that you just come up with off the top of your head is worth more to me than a pun that was written of course it is because improv is harder what are the guys that are chasing you in this area mohler to be honest with you man i'm i'm looking for where i'm even supposed to go and i just end up getting killed and then desperately looking for where i died to pick up my stuff and then lose it again like i'm i'm in pigatory right now i'm more invested in the conversation that i am in the game yeah speaking of which um oh yeah well i was gonna i'm knocking off super chestnut like oh yeah that the the last criticism of resume or four from the other one i was mentioning was aim controls independent from camera movement make the game practically unplayable for me all right that's really odd to me that that would make it unplayable i would just like as with as with lots of uh systems you would afford the developer the idea of like clearly they've set it up this way and the game is going to reflect it mm-hmm as in design yeah if i was to be able to move and shoot at the same time resume fold becomes a hell of a lot easier if you can do that you probably have to yeah it would become a lot easier you would you need to change primarily the way that enemies behave because the way that enemies behave at resident evil it takes into account the fact you have to either be moving or shooting but if you can do both enemies have to be for starters sped up significantly yeah um because you are going to be doing a lot of backpedaling and shooting and that's going to have to be accounted for by the uh by the enemies in the game probably some map redesigns that take into account you know the fact that you can have this you know that much more mobility was part of the halo conversation right the maps were designed in the old games without sprints because they knew how far she could go and when you have to add sprint yeah which is good when everyone has sprint but when sprint is something you can selectively choose you are playing with sprint on a map that is designed for people who do not have sprint so you have a huge advantage in what that gives you because movement speed is just such an inherently big advantage yeah you can move far god damn yeah that was the failing of reach if it was it was like oh they added sprint people often say oh it was just that they added sprint to halo it was like no it wasn't that they added sprint to halo it's not that simple it's that you have to design maps for the lowest common speed like all of like it comes okay all of the jumping puzzles in guild wars 2 are completable with the base movement speed even though there's classes that can give themselves faster movement either passively or through abilities if you're a class who doesn't have those abilities you have to be able to complete the content so all of the jumping puzzles are designed with that mind yeah i'd say that uh if you if you overlook that the game is kind of like broken um in a major way i think if like because you pick the wrong class impossible pass and sections of the game that are meant to be done by everybody like that would be such a massive oversight that it would actually be kind of insane for that to happen exactly and a lot of game i bet a lot more games than we think of are designed that you have to design it to where it's completable um so rags sprint changes the gameplay design of the stage it does i mean i would agree with that i wouldn't word it like that but sort of weird way but i understand yeah when you say that because it's a whole idea but um in halo one two three you know exactly how fast people are moving and that's like a part of the way that you play the game and nobody can ever move faster or slower than they are when you see them whereas with sprints that changes things because there are two modes of speed instead of one you have to keep into account keep into yeah if you give yeah if giving people the ability to sprint significantly increase their movement speed and all of the benefits that come along with that really big deal considering the maps are not designed for people with sprint they have to be designed with all right so what if you don't pick sprint well the map still has to be viable to you fucking a hundred thousand echoes are in this area you better give them up yeah oh yeah which is why i'm actually kind of this is a bit tense honestly oh boy because these guys can kill me pretty fast someone said the that bore was actually good enemy design because it anticipated that you thought it was going to charge but instead it attacked the sweep attack so nothing in what you said was good game design um if they're talking about what happened with me it's just a bore the bore is capable of several moves i am aware of those several moves i didn't account for one because i just forgot temporarily like i was expecting it to charge when i should have accounted for the fact that i can charge all sweep and i just didn't and so it hit me like i don't think that's clever how they describe it based just from that comment that sounds like the opposite of the thing so this is when you see a game and your human brain is like oh it's a bore it's going to charge me that's why they had this enemy look like a bore to give it bore like characteristics and because it looks like a bore i can piece together logically what it might do but the enemy thought that you would make that extremely logical deduction and so it did something completely randomly different instead is like oh that yeah that's dumb then bitcoin is worth over 30 000 us dollars now it's going on with a high huh it's uh we're tripled in value last year and in the last two days it's gone up about 12 percent for you to take issue with host sensitive the fucking triggers aren't ps4 well i have i've i mean let me tell you a story about these stupid triggers on this stupid controller i've uh i've broken the r2 trigger like i'm pretty sure two or three times on my con on my controller and i've had to purchase a new one because of it so um i kind of hate this controller i think the xbox controller is a lot better um and i'm not surprised it's just for me you'll randomly see my gameplay i'm just shooting the gun at certain points and like yeah it's because even if you touch the fucking l2 even a hair it's like oh you want to find the gun okay boom like no no um really it's a hair trigger i'm thinking joining bitcoin well i'm not going to give you any advice by the way i'm like i was about to say something like it's but no i'm not off forgetting financial advice someone asked a pair two people asked a pair of questions um uh rags besides sprint what about going prone in halo how much does that or how about going prone how much does that change the gameplay um hardly have i ever seen prone used in a way where it would ever change gameplay because prone is almost always in video games the wrong thing to do and the reason for this is because unlike in the real world where pruning is extremely useful in the real world it's difficult to hit things in the video game you always have pinpoint precision in the center of your screen on that reticle or dot it presents to you which kind of negates the whole point or a great deal of the point of pruning in the real world it's meant to make yourself a smaller target or to make yourself much more difficult to see with video games um it's often harder to remain unseen because of just how graphics are rendered and displayed on the screen and things of that nature and how the how things are rendered with other things and you have less control over what your appearance is and what you do to your environment and again it's also because if someone prunes they're basically a free kill yeah because they yeah they can't move as fast they're basically stationary and in video games you are hyper accurate compared to what you are in real life like hyper accurate it's a real life comparison so yeah it's just basically a free target you heard it here first people don't prune all right yeah and video yeah pruning in video games having it be a good thing is often a rare like rule of thumb it's never a good idea generally but there are sometimes in the games where pruning can be super useful like it makes a lot of sense contextually when you're in a single player game or in co-op when you're hiding from enemies and stuff like that but computers don't have to be programmed to see to mimic the way that an actual person would see so that's the thing there there's a different like the tactics used in video games and the tactics used in the real world are often different because the mechanics and you know in video games are set it's set to be a game and to be consistent and fun and so as a result that changes the behavior of people so but if you can instantly go prone you have an advantage for a second if someone is logically aiming for your head sure but generally people don't aim for the head center of the loss that like generally if you like round the corner with someone else and a lot of this compares like time to kill and stuff like that but generally going prone and shooting is a worse idea because the time it takes for you to prone and adjust your aim as a result you're not going to have an advantage over someone who's shooting and aiming that whole time at you watching you do these things right I saw people in chat like oh talk about crypto um no I don't know enough about cryptocurrency to talk about it all right like I'm not on the game every game gives you pinpoint accuracy okay 98.6% of them give you pinpoint accuracy yeah in fact I have to think about one that doesn't give you precise accuracy and they're not going to be high rated probably for that reason yeah um yeah in video games when I just can't get the fuck I'm pointing at it's really fucking annoying and people find it very annoying and those games become very niche oh you make serious sorry this is someone in chat they're like by dogecoin I laughed at them and they said they made money off of it it's like oh okay Max has never played ghost recon I have you have really really good accuracy in those games I've played them you have your character in ghost recon is way more accurate than anything you could be oh it's once it counter strike guys you know the difference between being able to shoot people without aiming down the sights and then the difference is you can't aim down the sights at all rise referring to games that don't allow you to have pinpoint accuracy you can in counter strike help me out also you were going to be way more accurate in counter strike than you will be in real life help me out here Mola when a weapon is at risk what does that mean that's a great question because I have no idea at risk I'm assuming it's at risk of being broken but I don't I've not had that what a thing pop up it's a question at risk yeah I mean because I might let me I've been playing this game for like way less time than you and it's already popped up for me in a chat help me out when does that even happen and how come I've never seen it or have I seen it ignored it because I don't if you'd ask me weapon breakage in bloodborne I'd be like maybe it's because I've been upgrading them before they break I don't fucking know how do you upgrade them well if you go to the main yeah yeah and then to the right of German or German's left I guess you just go up to there and I think you can repair around four to five so okay I'll do that thanks chat I feel like cryptocurrency is a really complex confusing space and it's especially made harder by the fact that it's such a new thing that as opposed to like gold where people kind of understand how that works and you know times of like massive uh all right I can go okay so on a chance like I can tell you have a play planet side to head shots of the difference between winning a 1v1 it's like oh yeah I didn't mention that one fucking obscure game I mean yeah although but like assuming whatever the logic is because um you can get the head shot could decide you're winning cards that doesn't mean that like that doesn't disprove anything you said it's like dumb yeah it's like almost all game oh yeah what about counter strike pros is some games are built purely around head shots but the vast majority of games I'm not it is you shoot people in the body and some games encourage will hit the noob too like you're encouraged to shoot people in the head of yeah it depends like even with the battle rifle only the last shots have to be in the head uh yeah but if you shoot oh right because the shield thing with the mr it's like it shields like the only the last shot has to be in the head if you're trying to hit the head all the time you're gonna lose because you'll miss a lot you you hit him in the chest four times and then the last shot has to be the head apparently Elon Musk tweeted about Dogecoin so that's why it went up in value so if you follow Elon Musk on Twitter just whatever he tweets out just buy it and then sell it like a day later I guess imagine just taking advice from Elon Musk on stocks is crazy levels of influence man well I mean he's he tweeted out once a Tesla stocks too high and it crashed that's just really funny to me but he's not tweeting it now even though it is really high is this going to be the edgy take that Tesla is overvalued at the moment because I think it is like god damn that thing is worth like it's like PE ratio is like 70 or something it's kind of it's kind of insane how expensive that that uh that stock is didn't he get in trouble for that yeah of course he did because like if you're the if you're the head of a company and you tweet out something that reduces your stock value of course you're gonna get trouble for that you have obligations to your shareholders Elon jat said I remember the first time I tried to shoot with a real target with a real gun at sad felt like I was shooting blanks I was so bad yeah like that's a skill you have to learn and hone depending on what you're shooting how far away it is and what it's a lot of variables but yeah I'm really fucking tough like it's a difficult thing to do that's why people practice all the time with it wait a minute doesn't make any sense I watch so many movies where like they don't even miss yeah it bugs me it really does especially in like star wars and stuff where everyone's hit firing pistols that targets that are 30 meters away and they just blast it and I'm like yeah fuck off and if ever that happens it should be special it shouldn't be everyone can do that I think you miss occasionally that's all it takes just having missed a few shots every now yeah just have them like aim like that'd be a start just have a character just aiming at a target and shooting you know four or five times just to kind of make sure and like one or two of them might hit you know something like that or they can't just flip around and instantly hit fire at target or so it's like you expect it from Mando especially because of his training to where he's always like he's got the gun he should walk a certain way hold his weapon and handle his weapons a certain way he should shoot a certain way and but you just don't he's just like every other fucking asshole in star wars with how they do everything there's no difference well depends if they're good guys or bad guys right um like until with the exception of the actual shooting like hitting the target part which is purely arbitrary based on plot not really oh i guess you're saying it's not about good or bad it's about whether the plots decided someone's about to die well i mean it's like the way that Mando carries himself in combat and with weapons is to my memory indistinguishable from everybody else with weapons when you but like take john wick right when john wick even in two and three just the way that he handles his weapons and moves with him you know clearly a well-practiced very skilled person who knows what they're doing but people don't do that in star wars it's kind of lame there's no space wizards can you chill out geez yeah it'd be nice if skill was something that like could be learned and not just plot dependent yeah you're the main character you're skilled now all right yeah you're just good it's fine like that's why the accountant gets all kills on stormtroopers the person who's probably never held a gun in his life he's an accountant they bring him along he's in a firefight he's got a pistol and he's getting stormtrooper kills and like as people point out stormtroopers don't miss when your arm is made out of feska then they give a hyper fucking act true and i like it he's like oh he won that he won that uh standoff with michael b just like did anyone think he wouldn't did anyone actually i would love to ask the person who's tense in that moment i'd be like what do you think he's gonna do shoot him in his like between the armor gaps what have we ever seen that happen before ever well hence if they argued that maybe like that's why i'm tense right now i don't want matter to die i'd be like wow i'm i mean i wouldn't even argue that i just like have you seen what he survived so far i'm surprised that you're uh you're worried about him that's the thing his the any injury he sustains like the first season the only meaningful injury he sustains makes absolutely zero sense and it's only to have plot drama well it's to square off an arc of i don't like droids now i do all right also the arc of you haven't seen his face and now you have that's it someone said mando someone said mando has no training rags have you watched the show that's not what you said i don't even know what that's supposed to mean because it's implied that he has a shit ton of training he has the results selectively has the results of someone who's had a lot of training without putting any of the work it we don't see any of it being executed i don't know how anyone could miss what you were saying when you mentioned john wick john wick's movements his how he moves around corners how he reloads and active like just guns yeah like there's so much effort in there checks the bullet is in the yeah meanwhile mando is mando walks up to fennec when she's getting attacked by tizems and he's just like okay let's move forward i'm pretty sure he says let's let's move or something like that it and it's just like you don't do it you're standing there and you're just shooting randomly there's nothing he's he's just if you just replaced all the characters and men of the men lorian with with nondescript silhouettes he doesn't behave differently to anybody else despite his supposed incredible training is his firearms and apparently also melee weapons expertise like the way he twirls that fucking stupid spear around because that's what you teach warriors in the future to do is how to spear fight world yeah it's like it's it's choreographed and everything but you see him with a gun and he's just he's just shooting like kind of normal just like everyone else is except his just happened to hit all the time like rags do you only see comments that disagree or spare you what is rags supposed to do this highlight every single comment that agrees with them and say i agree i agree the fuck right this first one's right so it's a rags uh keanu did a lot of actual tactical training before the john wick movies that's correct he did a lot of like three gun competitions and a lot of stuff like that yeah so he knows his way around firearms absolutely he put in the work for that role he knows a lot about him and it shows it really does legit show there was a there's definitely a a you can see the result of the work and mando it's just some hollywood actor who doesn't know anything about anything who's just just he's just got a gun i guess easy points to the bad guys it'd be nice to see like the stormtroopers they act like they act like just like the rebels do and the rebels act just like stormtroopers and every random thug acts just like every stormtrooper and every they all act the exact same because none of them have actual training and actual proficiency and they haven't been directed to actually show it because all of their amazing feats of skill they're just added in post when they see gi the blaster shot hitting the target and that's it that's all about it yeah rags call me a bigot sandwich believe me rags what are you a bigot sandwich uh just the existence of non-hyperspace fto travel and imply when the fountain goes to bestman make mando seasons 2 episodes 2 better what do you mean are they talking about when they move from attaching to the star destroyer to bestman i guess i guess this is the yeah this is this is non-hyperspace faster than light travel which i can believe i just it isn't intuitive also they call it do they call it sub light in the ot because i don't think they do and that's if they call it sub light that's a dumb thing to call it yeah yeah because sub light is not that slow yeah light is not fast enough well no i mean that was the issue with tap to marvel they're like all light speed engines like no this isn't you've got the ships it can go faster than the speed of light so what what good is this yeah it's like i'm gonna go to beetle juice it'll take 600 years if you're traveling the speed of light god that movie doesn't understand why how come she can breathe in space because she's super i mean all the other stuff she can do they just assume you'd accept that it's fine girls do get a gun i remember thinking a comment where somebody said oh captain marvel is underpowered in the movie she could move planets in the comics it's like you guys you gotta you gotta stop doing this like oh in the comics they can do they can move planets or like rewind time by flying around earth it's like stop it please you are not helping yourself oh this fight's intense i like this one i do like the idea that you could be just pointing out comments that agree with you and saying yes yes yes yes i agree yes someone said the weapons that have zero kickback because it's energy based which doesn't actually mean anything and rags is made and it doesn't show the series that's famous for hundreds of blaster shots going through the screen they too accurate okay so like you still have to aim it right so the recoil doesn't actually have anything to do with the accuracy like these are two different things you could have a gun that has incredible recoil and is very very accurate right and the recoil doesn't affect the accuracy of that shot they're through two different things right so even if you didn't have even if you had a gun that had zero recoil which the good luck with that you're gonna have to come up with some mechanism that negates the energy of because remember we have like laws and things where if a lot of energy comes out of side a then the back is going to have energy going the other way every action there's an equal option reaction so if you're going to have a recoilless weapon firing there's got to be some mechanism that negates that do i think star wars weapons have that no it's just because it's added in post um right but let's assume that these guns all of these guns there's zero recoil to all of the shots you still have to know how to aim these things you still have to line up your sights you still have to put the dot on the target you still have to know your your your drop because matter is affected by gravity so a blaster bolt will fall with gravity as well um and so so the recoil doesn't mean anything um to the ability for them to be super super duper accurate so i don't really know what the point of that is uh have we have we been shown that the blasters have recoil after job uh can we be shown that the blasters have recoil in star wars before like in in a new hope i'm sure i saw luke like flick his hand up when he fired a shot god yeah there there's there is an inconsistency um i i think that an energy weapon would have recoil uh because you know it's energy coming out of the muzzle that energy like creates force which is going to be directed in different directions like you know it's a big deal learning how to mitigate just whether or not it's it is and also that laser has mass i mean light has mass there has to be something yeah exactly there has to be something that actually impacts the target it's not just hot that hits the target right it's not the concept of heat that hits a target and like melts it or whatever there has to be something physically there to do it there has to be some kind of energy or or condensed gas or something like they're called bolts it's probably just super compressed gas well here's a question that i got what if it's a rail gun i'm not sure what difference that would make i like what is a rail gun uh rail gun pretty much just it it uh rail gun is like it i mean i know what it is in like science fiction it's like jub jub jub and then you fire out something in real life yeah yeah i figured it would be yeah let me get the proper but rail guns have force like and a lot of oh yeah absolutely like except rail guns are often like bolted down to the ground as well yeah because we we do not have the technology to have rail guns you can run around with and shoot people yeah they're not yeah they're not very they're not practical to put in handheld form oh somebody said okay so rail gun fires magnetically so right to project all it's just like a metal oh so okay yes it's just a it's a piece of tungsten or something it's a very it's a it's a it's a thick boy it's a it's a dense boy is what it shoots okay so it's it's like a normal gun and it doesn't fire like some magic thing that yeah so generally it's like tungsten armor piercing bullets so they're yeah the and i know in science fiction and stuff uh and even believing that there was a in real life during the cold war the united states and the soviet union had a had a treaty that they made i forget the name of it but it was basically that they wouldn't drop things on each other from outer space right i think i'm sure uh yeah it's like because you could drop a i think this was actually in like call of duty ghosts where you just have these big metal rods not that big just a metal rod and you just drop it from space and by the time it hits the ground it has like nuclear capabilities without the radiation because it's just a sheer energy generated from a massive object hitting um but a magnetic slingshot is yeah it's sort of a good way to say yeah it's like a a straight slingshot yeah or a series of magnetically charged coils will progressively speed up an object to ridiculously high speeds so that just an object hits something else and does a lot of damage it like simulates an explosive payload without actually having one right that second attempt on the boss went way better than the first but yeah i do it i would think that in the real world if we had an energy weapon which i don't think we would ever give up projectiles i feel like projectiles you know they're too really good they're too meaningful yeah well i mean it's basically just the same premise as stabbing somebody but you're shooting stabby things at them and like stabbing things is what we've always kind of done with weapons you know just put a hole in something the only reason that you would ever use energy weapons is because you would have to be shooting at something that a projectile couldn't defeat yeah well yeah because you're making things a lot harder when it's energy weapons as opposed to a metal object being flung we're really yeah you'd have to you'd have to find a way to be able to i just don't see it being a thing like it's fun in space and sci-fi and stuff but i just don't ever see it see it really being a thing like a ray gun being a thing you know what would make it a thing is people being like oh my god it's like star wars yeah like that's then why then you stop and think for two seconds and you're like okay so jedi would never be able to stop a shotgun or just bullets like okay so jedi are done they couldn't do that because jedi basically rely on blaster bolts yeah then we do we talk about once like assuming it doesn't vaporize it if a bullet went through like sabre melted and splashed molten metal onto their face as a result oh yeah they have it definitely will have it absolutely yeah the the remnants of that bullet they gotta go somewhere and even in wonder woman uh when she's blocking oh yeah the first wonder woman she goes over this writing you know yeah they make sure to show the slo-mo of her blocking that bolt that first bullet that hits her bracers and in the first movie when she goes over the trench and how it shatters into all of these pieces shrapnel it turns into shrapnel and it goes away on the just to her side and i'm like yeah so every bullet hitting her is going to be dispersed and broken up into pieces of shrapnel that will continue to travel backwards because her bracers are curved which means every time she blocks the bullet in front of her with a bracer she's going to get pelted by yeah but the problem is that the films can't decide if she's impervious to bullets or not because even when she's losing her powers in 84 the bullets hit her in the chest and don't kill her like you literally see a hole in her chest i still believe man that the original intention when she is shot and wounded from travel is supposed to be like oh my god she's just been wounded by a bullet this is serious when that has already happened and they forgot like that happened regardless of her powers well i i guess it's a problem of like in in the marvel movies stories impervious to bullets we see it we have evidence of it happening obviously he doesn't want to get hit by bullets but still it doesn't matter and like superman is impervious to bullets as well one woman's a lot more inconsistent she's kind of really fast but also kind of not um she can kind of fly but also kind of not and um she's maybe impervious to bullets maybe yeah more and more redundant every day so the the thing about like energy weapons is so there has to be a significant reason to swap from projectiles and everything that we've learned about them and everything that we've improved about them to the point where like especially fire uh small arms right now was kind of plateaued in terms of the firearms themselves and the ammunition and innovations are probably going to be within like siting systems heads up displays accessories kind of uh to to increase efficiency of it um but these are the amount of work and energy and it's like what's the point of having a blaster when you can have a gun just a gun yeah it's like an AR-15 in the star wars world is like yeah you'll be even more deadly than people with blasters if you just bring an AR-15 I feel like they'd be very quickly rising and it's like a fan favorite if you had like a mercenary that had non-energy weapons yeah yeah it you would people would like them they'd find them cool yeah well public commander had non-energy weapons yeah it did yeah I suppose the the mortar would would come under a because like a lot of people were saying the mortar should have there should be an energy version and it's just like I mean if it works why so I don't know how you have an energy version of it because you'd have to because the way a mortar is great because you can shoot it slow enough to where the projectile goes up comes back down and you can you're fucking kidding me you are actually kidding me wow I remember why I hate this enemy it's just a garbage enemy plus what's great about mortars in their physical form is that like the thing is what's great with projectiles is that there are like a projectile can be all kinds of things you can put incendiary effects on it you can make it armor piercing you can make them hollow points you could load them up with whatever stuff like mortars are the same way you can have all kinds of different payloads um like it could it could be an air burst or it could be just like a high explosive direct fire weapon it could it could be smoke so you could put a smoke grenades in one and just have them smoke an area but um I don't see how you could do that with energy weapons like I'm sure there's different kinds of it huh because they're not physical objects you probably couldn't like they're not attendable object of energy weapons yeah they are oh well yeah yeah but I guess what I mean is like how do you if you got like an energy weapon how do you you know put it on a table and then modify the actual energy beam it would be it would be just you have it's it's more of the way whereas with projectiles you'd modify the projectile itself with energies I guess it'd be like the mechanism that takes the energy from its power source and directs it in a direction that's what you mess with yeah but I feel like you'd lose a lot of utility like a laser could only do it could do it was it would be less variety in what it could do compared to bullets and hand grenades you know I mean I think of a shotgun like shotguns are insanely there's a huge variety in what you could put into a shotgun like you could fill them with beanbags you can fill them with slugs you can put bird shot and buck shot and sabos and all kinds of different stuff inside what is a slug then oh it's shotgun slug it's just one single thick projectile oh when you said film with slugs because that's what I thought slugs were so when you said film with slugs I was like oh is that like a type of bullet you can put lots of them in yeah pretty much yeah but like so correct me if I'm wrong though I thought slug meant like a single shot that's really like a chunky boy that's what a shotgun slug is yeah yep meaning you wouldn't put multiple ones into one shot no correct there'd be one yeah there would be one slug per uh yeah I mean you could put two smaller ones in there if you wanted but generally the point of a slug is you get accuracy because it's only one thing going to one spot instead of having it disperse over a distance um you can get more penetration with it depending on if it's been on the shotgun you can get pretty good accuracy with them but yeah you have a lot of options but I don't know how you do that with an energy weapon mortars are very useful you don't have a line of sight yeah absolutely they're very long distance and it's very good for dropping on top of people and when you don't have a line of sight can I not stun these fat enemies because I shoot them and they don't get stunned fat enemies have more health that's video games you gotta the parry only activates not on the charge up but the bring down and that's applicable to basically everything in the game I remember there was one where it was uh the whole PSA was that um this guy called and the kid answers the boys like are your parents home no they're out he's like well you want a surprise what's your address and it's like dude he sounds like talks a lot to that he sounds suspicious I guess that's a point and I do like the fact that a big black man with like gun bullets wrapped around him on his chest he's the trust worthy one there's a random army dude walking down the street now this one says it is a joke and therefore it can be bad so sad I don't know if that's referencing the person we were covering this is obviously from a while ago so you guys whenever you do a super chat do your best to include the context whenever you ask something you know even if it's just a single word just so I know it's responding to seven weeks later you know yeah when you're going to admit that Soma isn't a horror game but uh yeah when you go admit that Soma isn't a horror game coward also hi everyone except the mutt damn who's the mutt are you I'm a purebred mofo I mean with I'm achieved like my father and his father before him Soma's a horror game sorry cope votes on Druckmann an adult MTV cartoon oh duckman all right for a second like thought some what Neil Druckmann Neil Druckmann the show uh yeah I don't know anything about a show called duckman says someone said reg since Jedi blocking lasers is due to enhanced reflexes and precognition from the force wouldn't Jedi be able to react more easily to physical bullets and energy shots due to slower speed so like I'm I feel like an energy shot is thicker than a bullet based on what we see and I don't know like the fact that you could see it probably helps a shit ton if you have good reflexes right you can't see the bullet it's too fast and too small and it's not glowing and it's not like a foot long so I feel like hitting a bullet would be much much more difficult also when you block it you now have two red hot molten pieces of metal that are going to find your hand yeah and also those braces are going to be through wonder we're going to stupid absolutely agree people think that no man's lane shot is amazing that scene is stupid wrong it is um dude I had to respond to some dumb ass in the comments today yeah man rom is a vacuous spider IMO hey oh wait no sorry I'm watching my own stream footage of like hey you're up to where I am I was like wait a minute you're a lot further ahead than I am that is true oh my god there's so many spiders you're supposed to be liking faster though and also like I feel well it isn't light it's not traveling speed um definitely not traveling just yeah definitely because remember bullets can travel really fast so like an air 15 will shoot at like 3000 feet per second around there one woman would tell you you can't track a bullet as it moves through the air with your eyes and then catch it and throw it yeah you can't idiot because here's the thing if your if your reflexes are so good that you can block lasers and bullets nothing will ever get past you yeah like two jedi fighting there's no way you could possibly swing that which is always kind of been a problem with star wars is if you're fast enough and your reflexes are so good that you can block blaster shots then there is no way someone could ever possibly swing a lightsaber fast enough to where it could hit you so I just like we just gonna have to accept and move forward with the idea that jedi are broken and they don't work you can easily catch a bullet if you have a lasso that is true yeah obviously we didn't mean that well everyone can catch a bullet once at least yeah you know I have no idea how to get through this area I congrats mutually beat the second worst boss of the game yeah rom not a good boss but maybe some believe rom is also I think I'm about expended exhausted used up oh man it's almost one in the morning shit yeah time kind of flew and I don't believe we got through more super chats than we have now to respond to from this stream pray we made our lives more I don't even know we've added to our workload yeah you'll have more discussion from us in future I mean we're planning on doing this exact same thing tomorrow this was supposed to be part one today but I guess it's just part zero now not all that came through I saw that on discord it came through through the stream though because obvious obvious works differently what I was saying was it was supposed to be part one and two today tomorrow but instead it's part zero and part one so we will see you same time same sort of cast tomorrow and I will try and continue with super chats as well shall I uh shall I plug my hold on all right well I mean are you going offline or I yeah because I I haven't really because I woke up and started you should you should totally stay online for just like 20 minutes even oh man yeah yeah we should yeah okay come on come over here then so um yeah I'm gonna go offline but I will sit in this call a little bit and if you want to continue this conversation hit the link in the chat do be a sanity on twitch come hang out with us for a little bit for the aftershow all right um but yeah same time tomorrow and um yeah we'll catch you there thank you so much everybody for the very kind donations the company and the well you know the discussion right the back and forth about all the different things we covered tonight it was it may as well have been a full e-fap to be honest with you with what we talked about it's just with a game in the background instead of you know the tile yeah basically yeah um too many tangents but that's a okay yes all right see you folks tomorrow do be a sanity go then