 Okay, welcome back everybody. So this is Episode 2. I do this show, this podcast for the wonderful, amazing, great tan books, which is an amazing Catholic publisher. Fantastic books. I don't just say that because they publish one of my books and I do this. It's absolutely genuine and it's an honor to be able to do this. So the first episode we did with Bob Moynihan, Robert Moynihan of Inside the Vatican and it was on Archbishop Vigano, his book Finding Vigano, which is a fascinating book. So if you want to see that interview, please check it out. And we also did a tribute there to the late, wonderful editor of tan books, John Morehouse, who's really missed by me, the rest of us writers. Of course, this family. So this is Episode 2. And joining me today is Steve Cunningham. We're going to talk about the Great Reset. And for any of you who think that this is something that's made up, right? Oh, you got the book. Klaus Schwab, right? Yeah, wrote a book on it, okay? So when you look this stuff up on the internet and the folks at Google and Wikipedia and whatever, this is a white nationalist conspiracy theory, you know, or whatever they say about everything nowadays, right? Cultural Marxism or, you know, whatever else, okay? Guy wrote a book called The Great Reset, okay? All right? So, so anyway, we're going to talk about that. So Steve, my background on this, my kind of layout, my outline. I want you to talk a little bit about yourself first and what you do. And then background of what is the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab. And then what just happened over the last week or two. And then I want to hit, because we focus on issues of faith for the Catholics in particular. How does this relate to the Vatican of Pope Francis? And they also want to talk about what Vigano has said about this and then where we are going forward. So that's kind of a background, so, you know, ahead of time, you know, you don't need to jump right into Francis and so forth. So first, tell us a little bit about yourself and the amazing work you do with Census Fidelium among other places. Yeah, I'm just a little fish in a big pond. Census Fidelium was on YouTube and dot US website. Basically, he's just putting videos to PowerPoint slides, lectures, sermons, mostly all from priests. And they've been doing that since roughly around 2012-ish started when, even before that, I was unemployed, trying to figure out what to do, working out at the house doing P90X. I didn't want to, I was coming back into faith and I didn't want to just listen to anything and I saw sermons on YouTube and would work out listening to those and ran out. There's only about six at that time. And fast forward to about 2012 was the movie Greater Glory was coming out and I'm a Knight and we didn't really advertise it, market it well. Funny, I'm on a marketing team now. So I do that anyway. I got my logo everywhere, it seems. And you would work out to these? You must be working out a lot now. You must be bench pressing like 500 pounds. Now it's funny. Now I'm listening to these podcasts, the Great Reset podcast and anything on it. I don't know if it gets me more fired up at early morning hours. Yeah, I didn't mean to hear and you're like, Damn, you're a lot of them. Wow. Right. It's a way of blowing out that aggression or if you're running on the treadmill. Yeah, you just keep going. Yeah. I tell people asking me all the time, they'll say, How do you write so much? How do you write all these articles, all these books? And I'm like, it's therapy, man. I mean, you know, that and working out. I'm the same way. I'm like a fitness nut. My wife is too. But it's a way of kind of dealing with all this stuff, coping with the world in a way that kind of makes you feel better. Doing the investigating and getting this information out to people. Right. Yeah. And then as you're researching it, some of it is so infuriating and aggravating. You literally got to go to the gym. Right. You got to go ahead. Alphonsus talks about never wasting time. So I'm either reading, listening to podcasts, putting videos together, or even when I'm at work, I'm doing other. I'm editing like a ebook or something and I'm listening to podcasts in my ear. And maybe if someone's calling me, I hear from other things. So I got all this action going on, but I'm waiting for the keywords. I can hear what's going on and still get the job done and somehow retain it. But yeah, yeah. So where is your stuff posted then? Just how do they find you? Just go to doc.go. It's actually, if you type in some stuff, I'm actually shocked that I'm at the top of some search list, but it's on YouTube and it's also on the sensitivity of that US. And I'm also on other platforms like Odyssey, library, LBRY, Rumble, Bitshoot, huge tube, UGE tube. And there's another one I can't remember. I'm on like seven different platforms because of censoring and all this. I've had a couple of videos taken down and so I go to other places that I know that won't take it down. I do a thing called this week in tyranny every Friday. The last two Fridays, those wouldn't make it on YouTube. So I put them on other sites. This week in what? Tyranny. Or this week in baseball, TWIT, T-W-I-B. So I call it TWIT, T-W-I-T. That was a great show, Mel Allen, this week in baseball. I have him leading it off. Really? Nice, nice. Well, and our colleague at Tan Books, Carrie Grass, who has a new book coming out and she just got banned from Twitter and I think Instagram. I think it's a great book. The Anti-Mary Exposed, which is an amazing book. And I don't know why they targeted that. Is it because it uses the word toxic femininity in the title? Is that why? And I mean, you know, clearly it's okay to use the word toxic masculinity, right? Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. But it is, so we're going to do a future podcast on that. We're going to have people that are watching. So Steve produces this podcast and, and he, so I'm trusting you, Steve, to put, you know, taglines and everything on the bottom of the screen. I got you going. I'll put the show notes and everything together for you. All right, good, good. So that'll be done after this is recorded and it's posted. He's so quick at this stuff. But in this case, you're not just the producer, but you're the actual guest because you know a lot about, about the great, the great reset more than, anybody I know. So, so can, can you try to explain to people the background? What, what, what is this? What does this mean? What in the world are people talking about when they talk about the great reset? Well, this is basically if you're, and I've never used the following expression except for when I remember watching the WWF with Hulk Hogan, when he wrestled for the New World Order. This is basically the New World Order rebranded. It's a WEF, by the way, the World Economic Forum. Yes, yes. And they've been around. It's funny, I thought, I thought a WWF a couple of times, but not a WEF, yeah, yeah. They, they've been around since was a 1971. I have their first book. I didn't buy this one because it's about 80 bucks on, maybe, no, it's 400 bucks on Amazon. It's not free? No. You might be able to get e-book, I think, but I didn't, I'm not an e-book guy. I don't, I like having the hardcore thing, like a dog ear. I mean, I got all their other stuff right here. But this, here's a fascinating part, because I got his latest book, of Klaus's book on stakeholder capitalism. This is Klaus Schwab, right? Right, right, right. He looks like a villain from a James Bond movie. A villain. Yeah, you get him a cat, he looks perfect. Let me cut you off for one second. Hold on. So, just to read from the buy-out, and his book, all right? So, people know that we're not making this up. Professor Klaus Schwab is the founder and executive chairman of the World Economic Forum. In 1971, he published Modern Enterprise Management and Mechanical Engineering. Yeah, that's 50 years ago, right? He gives an idea of his age. He's been around for a while. Five years old, and Steve probably wasn't born yet. No, no. He argues in that book that a company must serve not only shareholders, but also stakeholders. To promote the stakeholder concept, he founded the World Economic Forum the same year. Professor Schwab holds doctorates in economics, University of Freiburg, and in engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and obtained a master's degree in public administration from the Kennedy School at Harvard University. That's the JFK School of Government. In 1972, in addition to his leadership role before him, he became a professor at the University of Geneva. He has since received numerous international and national honors, including 17 honorary doctorates, which has got to be a record. His latest books are The Fourth Industrial Revolution. I remember that, 2016. A worldwide bestseller translated into 30 languages. Probably more at this point. That one. And the book from 2018, Shading the Future of the Fourth Industrial Revolution. That one. It's right out here. There you go. That's his own bio from his own book. And this one came out in June of last year. And then he's got this last one. It came out, was it today the second? Three days ago. Okay. Wait, which one came out three days ago? Stakeholder capitalism. That's his big thing of changing economics, which we get into with Francis. It came out of the most recent Get Together conference. That was like the one of the main topics that he wanted to, he was pushing his book. And that's exactly what Pope Francis has kind of merged into in the last year. Okay. All right. Okay. So let's back up again. So after I just hope I didn't take any of that from what you were going to say. No, no, no. I was going to, because in the stakeholders, they bring up the code of ethics in the Davos manifesto. So in this book that's basically in this, in their first one, the page beforehand has a paragraph. I'll read it for you right here. I'll just bring out the key point. Where is it at? Where's mouth is at? There it is. Reiterating some of the same concerns about demographics that the 18th century scholar Thomas Malthus had expressed. The authors examined several, several scenarios for the global economy and outlined the choices of society had to make to recognize, recognize, reconcile economic development environmental constraints. Now you've heard that name Thomas Malthus, right? Malthus Malthusian. Yeah. And, and, and by the way, I got to say for people that are watching this and, and I promise I'm not fooling your leg here. Steve can go out for this. I know very, very, very little about this great reset. And this is, I mean, I've studied communism, you know, different ideologies and so forth. But this is one of those things that I've just avoided. And I mean, it's hard enough tracking democratic socialism in my plate's full. You know what I mean? So, so I really, so a lot of the questions I'm going to ask, do you come from a position of complete ignorance? I, I, I just, I just got this. I just got this last week. I haven't even read it. We had to schedule this podcast schedule for a while. But so, so yeah, go ahead. So I come into this, a lot of the questions I'm going to be asking come out of genuine ignorance. And a lot of them might seem too basic, but I think for those of us for whom it's new, this should be helpful and helpful exercise. Well, you'll easily, when you get into it, you'll see from all your studies of communism, how this is basically communism on a global level. They're wanting to use the all the keywords equality. They want to make everything equal. But even though the rich has so much money, they want everyone in the poor to get that way. Not them, but everyone to get to equal level, which always goes from not lower to higher, but higher to lower. Marxism is always for the masses. It's not for the masters. It's for the ruled, not the rulers. So many people will say, wow, this green new deal. I mean, are AOC and these people really not going to fly in airplanes? They're going to fly in airplanes. You're not going to fly in airplanes. Right? I mean, yeah, this is, you know, communism is for the ruled, not the rulers, socialism as well. The champagne socialists and mansion Marxists, the Castro brothers are kings. They quite literally own Cuba. The people who run the communist tyrannies, they do. They never suffer. They do not give up their dacha and so forth. Yeah. And there's a, you can go on their website, especially YouTube channel and look up. I think it's how you say it. Yval Harara, H-A-R-A-R-I. He's got to not link it in the show notes. He's got a link called the world after coronavirus. And this is all connected. Everything I said, this came out in June. Yeah. And they did the Davos before the title here, COVID-19, right? COVID-19 call on the great reset. So that's tied to this. Oh yeah. And everything I'm going to say. What Wikipedia says, but you're saying the coronavirus, that's what he says. That's what he says. It's the whole point of this. And stuff I'm going to say, people are going to think it's nuts. I mean, I've already heard that to me a couple of times, but I present them the art. I did a, I did an hour and a half presentation on it. I leaked everything, showed them all the links. And that was, you know, here it is. These guys, if you ever heard of event 201, that was the thing that came up in 2018, the end of 2018. It's game seeming what a coronavirus would happen on the planet. The World Economic Forum along with Bill and Melinda Gates sponsored that event. They had their top, he had his in on this. And he met and they use this thing because it's technology, AI. They want to get in your food. You hear about bugs. There's an article came out a couple of weeks ago about how bugs is okay for humans to eat. If you go on the WEF website and type in bugs, you'll see scores of links. Talking about how we, for the environment, you must not them eat bugs because, well, Cal produces so much CO2, but Earthworm doesn't. And they have the same amount of protein. There we go. You should eat bugs to save the planet. This, all about saving up the lockdowns. That was about saving planet. They had a thing about, they wanted to get, it's on the WEF website, 7.6% decrease in CO2. They got that this year. And they want to do it for a decade. There's a chapter on this. Yeah. So it's just, and they want to get it down to, for 2030, you'll see the years, 2030, 2050, all the time with these people. 2050, they wanted to get down to zero carbon emissions. Right. And I don't know if you remember the debates. The last, Yeah. Yeah. For anybody, this should be immediately familiar to Americans listening right now, watching right now with some of the language from Green New Deal and Biden and so forth. Yeah. Right. And in the debates, remember the, Biden says he wants to get down to zero emissions of 2050 and end up eliminating the oil industry. And Trump gets on him. He jumped right on. Oh, that's big news. Yeah. Everyone was saying, oh, he's done. He's finished right there. The next day I'm at the gym, listening to the first World Economic Forum podcast. I went back in time. I started beginning and went back. And 10 minutes later, I'm halfway through it. It has the CEO of BP said the exact same thing that Biden, I almost threw the phone. Because I'm going British petroleum of all places. They're in on it. All these guys are, there's a way that they're, it's kind of like showing the world that you're the enemy, but putting your money in what's the plant. So they're all in on green technology, green movement. Yeah. If you anticipate it and you're planning for it, then you can benefit handsomely. Right. That's part of it. Yeah. And in that debate, it was toward the end of the second debate when Biden frankly was wearing down and letting his guard down. And he made the comment on fracking, which totally relates to, I live in Western Pennsylvania. And we are the Saudi Arabia of Marcellus Shale. And by the way, for Democrats listening, the party of the working class, these are all blue collar working class union guys. I mean, this used to be the bread and butter of your party. And to lose those guys who were all voting Republican for Trump, to lose them in favor of sort of Green New Deal Democratic Socialists. This is a fundamental transformation of politics. Realignment Democratic Party Republican Party. But you're right, Steve. So that's when Donald Trump looked into the camera and said, Oh, we're making news here, right? Did you hear that? Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, you rattled off all those states. I thought at that point, Joe Biden lost the election. Me too. Me too. All part of the plan. They mentioned it in this about they will basically, in a nutshell for that, they want people to lose their jobs because they want them on the government goal, which gets into the UBI universal basic income for those scoring at home, which And to be clear, so people don't think that when you're standing there as harsh, they want them to lose their jobs if they're in those industries that these people consider bad, right? These are bad jobs, right? Pipeline jobs are bad jobs. If we could take those guys from the pipeline and just let them build windmills, right? Well, those would be good jobs, right? Yes. They are. They're happy to. They do want to eliminate your job. If you're in an industry like that that they consider, you know, quite literally toxic. Kind of. They don't even want you working because it's all about the robot. Here we get in the Skynet. Now, if this is if you want to go into movies, this is like the Matrix meets Terminator, meets his. What was the precogs? The Tom Cruise one. Minority report meets the Matrix. And this, again, you're going to think I'm nuts. They don't want you working all because the robots, the technology is going to take over that industry. So example, like you, Sean speaks of AI takes over the trucking industry, which has been talked about for quite some time. And I think the Biden administration is going to come out with one in June or July, a big thing on AI cars. I was driving Uber for four years. That's all I heard about was AI cars, self-driving cars, et cetera. And so he talks about how do we turn these truckers into yoga instructors? Think about it. Do you know a trucker that wants to teach yoga? We mentioned the word toxic masculinity, right? What they call toxic masculinity. I mean, you know, we wouldn't be here using electricity in a warm room if it wasn't for guys like that, the dig ditches, dig holes, do the power lines, drive the trucks. I mean, that's channeled masculinity for the purpose of doing that kind of, you still need somebody to build your building. Okay? Once you're Starbucks, somebody's got to build that building. Someone has to wire it. Someone has to do the plumbing. And when that stuff gets messed up, they got to come in and they got to fix it, right? The roads that you ride in on that you blow by in your little Prius at 80 miles an hour. And you know, those guys that are out there working, that's tough work, right? You can never avoid replacing those guys and including, I don't care how advanced you get technologically, you can't let everything be done by a robot and artificial intelligence either, right? Sometimes people still have to pound a nail. And Steve, this is what he means by fourth industrial revolution, right? Right, right. That's the main, his main thing that he, it's the fourth industrial revolution. Great reset is the same thing. And he explains this basically, again, there's a video from 2011, 2012 of this. It's a cartoon. And the lady gets into it. Well, my husband's at the office and the office is, he's got, it looks like the Borg. He's got the thing over and he's, he's at the computer thing and he's doing all these robots, thousands of robots that he's controlling at, in his office. And then he hasn't left the house though, which is another thing about the lockdowns. They keep people from driving into work. Wonderful. What a great existence. Yes. They want you on your computers at home, not driving in because why? Lower CO2. If you drive, you're now screwing the planet up. So keep you at home, keep you away from other people, isolate because isolation, you can't really do anything. If you, if you keep, if you, you know, I don't want to say revolt, but ideas, you got to get together for people. You got to keep people away. So this, it all started, there was another document lockstep back in 2010. It called it all the legacy jobs. So think of legacy jobs as in, uh, grocery stores. Right. So notice you see an increase of self checkout. Yes. No other humans, again, tech, car dealers. You've seen the big thing, online shopping for cars, online shopping in general. Yeah. Now the big guys, you notice they're making a killer. Car to your house. I mean, right? And even, you know, somebody has to go catch the fish, got the fish. Even if you use nets to catch the fish, you need someone to drive the boat. Someone needs to milk a cow. Someone needs to put you in a cow. Okay. You don't want to use cows. Okay. You want to just use food. Someone needs to plant seeds. Someone needs to pull it up out of the ground. Ask any farmer. There's a lot you can do with machines, but you can't do everything with machines. You can't escape human labor. You can't just have everyone sitting in their room with that cartoon, right? Operating all these different things. This is very unrealistic. And that's why Bill is in do the fake foods. You see that the rise of that, the impossible burger, the plant-based meats or whatever it is. It's just the fake meat stuff in general. He's got billions into the fake meat thing. Again, environmentalism. Right. They don't have the good food. It's kind of like Hunger Games. There's another movie. You see the capitals eating nice good stuff and all the rest of the people are surfed. Yeah. They're starving. So if you control the food. Fake meat would be plant-based meat kind of veggie burgers, that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. So this is literally touches every facet of your life. It's amazing. And if you go to their website, WF.org, you'll see who's in on it. And it insists they who's who from Walmart, Amazon to Lagos. Lagos is even involved. There's nothing that isn't involved in this. Right. And it's all there. It's all at the website. Yes. And also two people use words like conspiracy. Kind of is a conspiracy. It's an open conspiracy. 1984 talks about the author from that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's not hidden. So here's a couple of quotes. So Schwab, you're talking about working under the cover of the COVID-19 pandemic. The entire world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies. And that's one thing that these guys do. You mentioned my knowledge of Marxism and communism. There's a striking similarity here in this kind of this this language, right? All, right? Everything. Everything that exists. There's very rarely any nuance. Like, well, at least in those industries in which this can reasonably happen, right? It's always everything. All in total, right? Complete. And he said every country is a Schwab from the United States to China must participate in every industry from oil and gas to tech must be transformed, which reminds me too of AOC and the Green New Deal about how literally she literally says this every building in the United States, every building, right? We'll have to be redesigned or retrofitted or whatever. I'm always amazed at the hyperbole and the willingness to use words like all and every. Life isn't like that. But that's what they're doing. They're not messing around with it. And he says in regard to COVID, this is the back flap of the book. OK, so this couldn't be more obvious. I have stuff in the chapter. The back flap. Since making its entry onto the world stage, COVID-19 is dramatically torn up the script and how to govern countries. Really? Yeah. Also, well, it put people on lockdown. And so I mean, yeah, it's really torn up the script. And he mentions on page 247 about COVID. He speaks the truth on this. He goes through other pandemics, which if you're familiar with the word pandemic, it was changed in 2009 to mean zero deaths now. So the comic cold is a pandemic now. Let's see. Here it is. 247? Yes. One of the last, however, at the global level, viewed in terms of percentage of the global population is more effective. The corona crisis is one of the least deadly pandemics the world has experienced over the last 2,000 years. In all likelihood, unless the pandemic evolves to an unforeseen way, the consequences of COVID-19 in terms of health and mortality will be mild compared to previous pandemics. And he goes into a list at the end of June 2020. COVID-19 has killed less than 0.006% of the world population. To put this low figure into context in terms of lethality, it also killed 2.7% of world's population, HIV-8, 0.6% from 1990, 81 to today. The plague of Justinian from a one-onset in 541 to a find this period in 750 killed almost one-third of the population of Byzantine, according to various estimates. And the Black Death 1347 to 1351 is considered to kill between 30% and 40% of the world population at a time. Yeah. Yeah. And then the next line. The corona pandemic is different. It does not constitute an existential threat or a shock that will leave its imprint on the world's population for decades. You're like, okay, where's he going with us? However, it does entail a worrisome perspective for all the reasons already mentioned. And today's interdependent world risks conflate with each other, amplifying the reciprocal effects, magnifying the consequences. And nonetheless, as it says here, I mean, the purpose of COVID-19 is to initiate this great reset. So one wonders if it's really not as big of a deal as Schwab says. I would probably argue it's a bigger deal than he did. Never let a crisis go to waste, as Emmanuel said. Totally. And in the introduction, he even brings up biblical names like ACBC. In his last book, Stakeholder Capitalism, he brings it up again. I have this thought. ACBC, after COVID, before COVID. It's amazing what they're doing. Here's an idea of... Wait, I've got to stop you right there. So instead of using AD and BC and AD, or what are they using now? Current era, before current era. Yeah, ACE or BCE. But he's using... After COVID and before COVID? ACBC. He's literally said that in both the blue book and his latest book. So in that sense, the COVID is really the defining moment to define a whole new era, right? He's not talking ACDC, right? No, no, no. Wow. After COVID, before COVID. Right. Yeah, why not just start a whole new year zero in 2020 or something? And he mentions in it, in that same blue book, how... Well, let me see if I find the right page for it. I got it right here about how people think that the thing will return to normal. Here it is. When confronted with that some industry leaders and senior executives may be tempted to equate and reset with restart, hoping to go back to the old normal and restore what worked in the past. Traditions, test procedures, and familiar ways of doing things. In short, return to business as usual. Still him. This will not happen because it cannot happen. For the most part, business as usual died from, or at the very least was infected by COVID-19. There is no return to normal in the eyes of these people. Okay. So let's get specific. The great reset would, first of all, in order to do whatever that is they want to do, you're going to need major business people the movers and shakers in the global economy and governments, the correct people in governments. You couldn't have a Donald Trump. You'd be totally against this. So you need those people in those countries together to meet in order to do this great reset. Correct? And this is where, I mean, to me I'm not as worried here because I don't see how they could pull this off, frankly. But how would they organize this? How would they get power? What would they seize? Who would do what? Are you seeing it now? I mean, Davos is the main place, which they just had their annual, they were online this time, virtual. Last week as we're recording. Right. Yeah. The end of January. 2021. Right. And they did about eight to nine videos every day. I mean, I watched all the main ones. I didn't watch the ones when they had Putin. Putin bored me after about 10 minutes. And then they had about 10 other world leaders. Ben Yen, Yahoo! Merkel, the Chinese president let it off. He's basically talking about how the Chinese way is going to lead the way. Which, if you see how the... President Xi and Angela Merkel. Do you see Putin, too? All the world leaders are in on this. I mean, they actually spoke. Joe Biden did not, did he? No, he did not. No. I mean, he's just been inaugurated. I mean, he's all in anyways. He didn't have to. Probably was best idea for them not to have him on because there'd just be a bubbling video. Was there a U.S. representative who spoke? There was U.S. people interviewed. But the last one was on the world... John Kerry? John Kerry's part of it. He's on the board, basically. But they had Kirsten Gillibrand. And they was talking about foreign affairs. Which basically talked about they can't wait to go back to war. And there was a representative from Indiana. And I can't think his name. He's a GOP guy. Which shows that this is bipartisan. You're going to get it. By the way, the John Kerry quote. And John Kerry was former Secretary of State. And he's going to have a major role. He's huge in this. Yeah, he almost got elected president in 2004. Quote, the notion of a reset is more important than ever before. I personally believe we're at the dawn of an extremely exciting time. And this is Justin Trudeau. And by the way, I got some of these quotes from my friend David Capulian to put this together. Justin Trudeau, the Canadian Prime Minister. This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset. There you go, right? This is our chance to accelerate Justin Trudeau, our pre-pandemic efforts to reimagine our economic systems that actually address global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality, and climate change. So actually reimagine our economic systems, right? I don't know how you reimagine free markets. The only way you reimagine them is to get a hold of and control them. Because in a natural state, freedom is freedom. And markets that are free are free. But so a big part of this is getting the power to be able to do this. That quote by Trudeau shows you that they've been thinking about this for a while. They just needed something catalyst to bring it through. And look how easy, how ever you ever thought that you'd see the entire planet stop moving like it did last year. Right. And if you can imagine January 2020, February 2020, that we'd be here a year later and it looked like Donald Trump was probably cruising to reelection, right? And then COVID hit and changed absolutely everything. And not only did COVID lead to the defeat of Trump but allowed for this great reset according to what the architects of the great reset themselves are saying and advocating. Yeah, if you go back to Event 201 again, you'll see a lot of what you've seen played out. I mean, even the censoring. That's episode, that's session four. Talks about how the social media is going to take over basically and censor misinformation, what they deem misinformation. And you can see media manipulation and tech manipulation, information tech manipulation. You can already see that taking place. So again, in terms of how would people get their arms around this in order to orchestrate this great reset? I still find this hard to believe but I guess if you did it in the name of an environmental threat, right? Climate change, emissions. I mean, you really could through some sort of like global Green New Deal. If you really put that in place, right? If you did that in the United States, you could manfracking in the United States. You could, as Biden did with one of his first executive orders, you could eliminate the Keystone pipeline, right? So all in the name of climate change and 2050 emissions and so forth. So there are certain parts of the economy you could truly, truly control. Getting control of food, you would think would be harder but they want to do that, especially with meatless meat, right? And such things as that. And you've seen that they've taken out meat industries. They've killed millions of chickens. They've taken food out. There's a food crisis in many parts of the world because I remember when this was happening and I interviewed a guy in June, July talking about how people were starving in different sections because the food was gone. They literally would kill in their food products. And like Malthusianism, population control. So for people, then this is far-fetched. Steve, you just mentioned, we just mentioned President Xi and China. China, following the Club of Rome report, Treaty of Rome in the late 1970s, took this all so seriously. Stuff that was done by Western Europeans, okay? That China implemented a one-child policy, which has been in place now for over 40 years. It's too child now in some different parts of China. But so they literally controlled their population. Now here in America, it would seem hard to believe that that would be implemented. I'm afraid of God, nothing like that ever happens. Frankly, in Western Europe, they don't need a one-child policy. They're doing themselves. Yeah, that's right. The replacement level, which is 2.1 children per woman, is there's not a single country in all of Europe that's at replacement. They're all below replacement. And in America, I think the year is 2016. It's the last few years. We finally went below the replacement level in America for the first time ever. So we're voluntarily depopulating. We don't need the government to tell us how many kids are we going to have, although what a crime it would be if someone came along and said, you know, most Americans are doing their part here. They're not having a bunch of children. The family's like yours, right? You have eight kids? No, no, no. You can't do that. By the way, I think as we adopted you, right? Somebody's got to adopt the kids of the world, too, you guys, right? Very true. But they're looking at China for a lot of their ideas. So he brings it up. China and the US in that book and stakeholders, he basically awards China with a W because then that one is if China wins, if the United States wins. It kind of gives a scenario-type deal. And what you see in China, you see they having to scan their iPhones, their tracking devices, which Apple will gladly tell you as a tracking device. And if you don't get the right scan, you don't get into the building. If you don't have the right thought process, your social credit score goes down. Maybe they don't even let you have the internet. If you don't have the right social credit score, you won't write the bus. You won't have to print, which they want to get rid of cars that goes back in that 2010 document, get rid of cars so you don't own anything. One of the key things that they have on the website, they scrubbed it. It's on Bitshoot, but it started out with, you will own nothing and you'll be happy. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, right. Connect to the Marxism point. I knew you'd catch that. The entire communist theory may be summed up in the single sentence, abolition of private property. That's what it says in the manifesto by Marx and Engels. There was a frightening poll that was done just a few weeks ago. Vikings of communism, Morial Foundation always puts this out to you. The number of millennials who say that they would support the abolition of private property is stomach. The reason that they do it, you guys, is for this greater good that they envision here. That's how this stuff is sold. That's how this stuff is peddled. Yeah, wow. And then that, again, with the yogi, whatever his name, we'll just say yogi, he talks about, I'm trying to find the direct quote, but it's on the YouTube channel. If you go to the WF YouTube and look up how to survive the 21st century, he talks about implants that go into your phone. People already have the Fitbit that's tracking everything. And everybody says they're not, if they go, oh, that's a conspiracy theory about microchips. Go to the podcast section on Google iTunes or at Google Play or iTunes. Check out the Great Reset podcast. The last one they did last year, number four talks about implantable microchips. And that's the key, is that it's actually talked about. Yes. It's actually advocated. It's actually on the record. So we're not nuts, right? We're reporting the nutty things that they're saying there. And part of the fourth revolution is that the technology would be possible to be able to do this for somebody who wanted to do it, right? And even right now with COVID, so we're meeting people from certain industries that have been told that if you don't get the vaccine, you're going to be fired, right? You're going to lose your job. And you can certainly see how that would happen in healthcare, right? Although even that, for Americans, I mean, come on, you guys, this is a violation of your freedom. Who owns your body? Yeah, and also, too, you don't need 330 million people to be vaccinated. That's part of this, too, right? Make sure what's in it. Right, right. Yeah, well, yeah, too. And if you have any ethical objection to what you believe might be in the vaccine, including, you know, aborted fetal tissue or whatever else, you might not be told that you can object, especially if you're, and my wife and I had a friend over in healthcare and she doesn't want to get the vaccine because she's afraid that the vaccine she's being asked to take has aborted fetal tissue in it, but she's not going to have any other choice. Her choice is going to be then you walk. You lose your job. Yeah, there was an article out the other day. It said 74% of companies, CEOs are considering making it mandatory in the not-so-distant future to work. Yeah, yeah. But this guy talks about how in the not-so-distant future, maybe you're listening in North Korea to dear leader, whoever it is at the time, and you don't like what he has to say. Whatever's being tracked on you, he goes, imagine a time when you're being tracked so much that your blood pressure, heart rate, and feelings are put together and sent to the capital and they know exactly that you're not happy with, dear leader, what he said. And then you get a knock on your door that night or the next day after. And that's not too far afresh because that happened two days ago, last week, to a guy that posted memes in 2016. He was arrested for going after Hillary. Well, okay, I'm watching the clock here. So we only have about 10 minutes. So this is Tan and Tan's a Catholic publishing house and you and I are Catholics. And so in the end, a lot of our world view comes down to that, our Catholic world view. I'm hearing some potentially troubling things and to be honest, confusing things. It's hard to know, separate back from fiction. Where's the Vatican on this issue? Where's Pope Francis on this issue? I know you paid special attention to that. Sadly, they've been with the WEF since he took office. Since he took the seat of Peter. It was 2013. Colonel, was it Terzeli? The World Economic Forum goes back to 71. Right, right. Since he's been at the seat of Peter, he's been Turksin. He's been there every time to give their blessing. Colonel Turksin. Right, right. Francis just met with people from, they call it the Guardians. It was the whole Rockefeller. Everyone was losing going, did Pope just come on with the Rockefellers? Yes. Yeah, that was really weird. It's the Guardians of Capitalism group, correct? Yeah, yeah. I did nothing about that until about four weeks ago when a reporter asked me if I have a comment on it. And I didn't, I couldn't because I didn't know about it. So that, so what is that? That's, can you explain that with who they are? In layman's term, it's just a bunch of rich, I mean, we're talking rich and powerful, the top dogs in the world and with Francis. And it's, he writes about in his Let Us Dream book a little bit about it. And it's all around environmentalism and stakeholder capitalism. And they mention that. They're not all, I know a number of names on that list. They're not all a bunch of socialists and commies, all right? I know some good people on that list. Free markers. But it's, I get, they're from the kind of international business community, right? Right? So it's not a completely stacked group, right? But it's a group of, I have to use it, you need Schwab's stakeholders, right? People of influence. And they mention stakeholder capitalism. They mention capitalism, right? Are they kind of chosen, anointed in some way to try to make capitalism better? Right? But really in accord with this plan. It's words matter. So what they say capitalism isn't what you're thinking. It's, again, it goes to stakeholder capitalism. It's his new brainchild that he's bringing out. It's all in his latest book on it, which the first half of it is how he grew up in Germany. I think it was democracy, same thing. Right. You know, you know, like I said in the state and revolution, we favor democracy. So what do we mean by democracy? By democracy, we mean equality. Exactly. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. Yeah. And the same thing for this. It's going to be more equal. They want more equality, more inclusion. LGBT definitely got exceeded table. They want to, they keep using the poor thing, but again, it's how you were talking about bringing everyone down on the WF website. You're going to look at sites, groups that you're not going to think is they're communist socialists, but they're in on this program. They're just not saying like Trudeau or Biden and how they're leaning on this. These guys are doing this. They're all in the same team. Yeah. And it's still the league. I was, I was, I'm trying to picture like the major league baseball with Schwab as the commissioner and the whole thing is about, again, global communism, but they're not going to use the word communism. Right. It's kind of like how Joseph, Joseph's book, I forget his last name, a liberal fascism with a smile, smiley face. Jonah Goldberg. Jonah Goldberg. It's kind of like that is a smile. It's a very nice thing. One of the themes of the Davos agenda was building trust. Trust us. We're going to fix everything for you. Schwab's also talked about the next crisis is on video is going to be greater than the COVID one, which would be a cyber attack. Why is that important? Guess who will take over the internet? We're right here. Hello. Yeah. And let me say to you, so global communism. It's, it's not, it's not communism Marxism as Marx envisioned it, or as a Soviet common term envisioned it, or it's, it's, it's more like a global form of, they must say, collectivism or, or, or redistributing well, but it's, it's okay. This is better. It's a global form of management, right? Of control, right? And of which industries can be permitted, right? So there might not, there couldn't be an abolition of private property, you wouldn't think. But the, so this is more of getting a hold of and harnessing through, through certain leaders and through certain business people. Well, the means of production. Right. To use the term, right? This is, this is manipulation and control and management, more so than maybe abolition. But in some sense, they're going to abolish it. They're going to abolish it. They're going to abolish it. Yeah. Yeah. They would abolish, you know, bad energy forms of energy, right? Pipeline fracking. They would abolish, you know, beef, right? So there, there are some forms of abolition. So it's not so much complete abolition, but it is complete management control. Right. Cause they'll have, they'll have their beef. They'll have their transportation. It's about control of the means of production. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Like as you said before, they'll have their goodies. We won't. Oh yeah. They'll have their work. We won't. I mean, the mom, why do you think the mom and pop stops? We're all, are all threatening of closure, but Walmart's open. Right. Amazon's killing it. You notice, again, it goes back to the tech, the drive thru, uh, you had to stay at home so you had more, uh, delivery services. You know, I remember Domino's, they were testing in Texas of delivery service for pizza where it was a machine. So a machine, they'd put the pizza in the car. It would be cooked along the way to your house and a little robot dog would bring it up to your door and you come out and get it hot and fresh. She's like, back then, wow, that's cool. Now you're looking at going, wait a minute, that's good. That's the instance that is. A robot dog could not get up my driveway and across my rock and my rocky sidewalk. Um, but, but, but you can see here how, how it did. Right. For them. Ah, this could be the opportunity for a great reason. We can see how people in a time of lockdown, right. We're able to get their food by these other means. Right. Through Amazon, through delivery, through, through, through other things. There's a form of if states, Pennsylvania, New York, whatever state you're in, can do a lockdown, can do a shutdown. Right. There are these alternative means of getting things in and out of there. And when everybody has their, their laptop or whatever else, as long as you can keep technology flowing, then, then you can guide people and let them know how they can do this and how they can do what and control what content. That's where big tech comes in. What's censored and what's not censored. What's permitted and what's not permitted. Well, you're allowed to see what you're not allowed to see. We're allowed to do what you're not allowed to do it. As you said, the C word control. Right. And as I say all this, it still sounds like nuts. Yeah. And people watching us are still going to think, what are these guys talking about? I get it. I think I'm nuts. Right. You can see the, the, the lady or the guy turning to the spouse and saying, I don't understand how does this look? I can show you evidence for everything we've said. What's that? I can show you evidence for anything I said. So just email me. I did an hour and a half thing on this. And at the end of it, they were going. Wow. Right. Right. Yeah. Well, and most important is that if they go to the website of the World Economic Forum. It's right there. Yeah. They could get lost there for weeks. Just reading all the different stuff. They just put your mind around this one. This is one of the, the crazy things that you can think of VR, virtual reality opens up new ways of community. This is from the fourth industrial revolution. Instead of saying how we feel, we can fully convey how we feel to a loved one or a coworker through immersion, 3d visual and sound and by engaging every sense. Let's open a whole new world to empathy for everybody with an open heart and open mind and create a better, more compassionate society. We can also easily put ourselves in someone else's shoes, but in someone else's body and experience what they experience. We could become African-American, Latina, gay, transsexual, quadriplegic, Jew, Muslim. And then we can return back to our original identities better informed in a way to try and in a way transform in a few years instead. I'm sorry. You'd be a day. Yeah. All through VR. So imagine a matrix when they shove it in Nio's head. That's just one of many excited about that. That sucks. It's right. So, all right. So people that are watching, we're not even saying that, you know, Paul Ken Gore and Steve Cunningham. We obviously don't want this. We're and I can't even say they're going to do this. This is going to happen. Frankly, I think they can't do it and it won't happen. But the fact is there are people that want to do it that are trying to do it and are putting a lot of money into it and actually thinking that it can be done. And that is whatever this is. Unfortunately, I'm going to put my soon to be worthless money on. They're going to pull this off. Yeah. They got their tentacles. It's still vast. How would you get your arm? Example, the WHO and UN is leading the cost. Anybody raise your hand if you like that. Any of those. We do not get a say in any of these groups right now. And they're somehow in control. The whole thing about the Paris agreement with Biden just that puts us back in the reset. You're back. We're back in most of the states were already doing it like my state in North Carolina. He's all in and you can hear some of his words. And I'm going, that's reset talk. But there are limits to what they can control. There are limits to what they can do to your life. But that said, in some areas, they can't really limit it. And we just saw with President Biden coming in and with one stroke of the pen, one of his first executive orders on the Keystone pipeline. And remember, even I followed this very closely. You can look at my articles on this in American Spectators. I'm from Western Pennsylvania. And to see these young guys in Western Pennsylvania who used to be their fathers and grandfathers would, they play high school football. They graduated age 18. And then you're straight into a good paying job in a steel mill or a place like that. That disappeared for 40 years. Well, it's back. We're now going into fracking and industries like that. So Biden at the least, when Biden was playing with his language and the statements on this, would say, well, I'm not going to ban it, right? But I would not want to give new licenses on whatever, whatever, whatever. It's going to be like a phasing out. So eventually the phasing out fits with the template of like 2050, right? So at some point those jobs would disappear. So they can control your life that way. So there are things about you and your life and what you do that this can be controlled under things through climate change, renew deal and Paris Accord and so forth. And for the United States, it was crucial to get Trump out and get Biden in to be able to do that. By the way, Biden's moderate compared to, compared to some people on the liberal left and the Democratic Party. Right. Right. I don't know. Maybe they underestimate the human spirit. As you see it, Italy, they're fighting back. Vienna, they're fighting back. Ireland, they're fighting back. You don't see it in the United States yet. I don't think we've been hit hard enough. We got too many distractions. Yeah. When I told two people, two friends of mine who were very politically savvy and know all this kind of stuff, usually that I was doing this podcast today, they didn't even heard a great reset. They didn't even know what it was. That's why I was happy that Vigano wrote about that in that letter. I read it. It didn't really, for me, it was kind of like, all right, well, that's 101. But it got many people talking about it in our circles. Like, Father Magorin did a video on it. He had blog write-ups. I even saw secular guys that I follow who is where I found that because you're not going to follow up from the church. Secular guys going, a Catholic bishop spoke against the reason. They were jacked. They hate us. But they were jacked about a bishop of the church speaking out because even if they don't like us, the church leads the way. If we want to win this, the church has to lead the way out of the darkness. And we could fight. We could win this if the Holy Mother leads us. Cardinal Burke did a sermon against it. People will follow if the clerics come out against it. Right now, as they say in the event 201, it was like it was such in three or four, they need to get the clerics involved. And even with the poke, the jab, they need to get the clerics involved to help push that agenda along. If the clerics would start preaching against this stuff instead of being, as one book called Propaganda by Jock, it's where it is. They call him the evangelist of the Propaganda. We got to fight back. Now pray, hope, don't worry. Yes, our homes heaven not here. These guys are going to try to make your lives completely absolutely miserable. And that's putting it nicely. So yeah, not too many people know about it. Sadly, after the vegano letter, it went away. Nobody talked about it. I gotta tell you that when Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, it was Papal Nuncio to the United States, right? No slouch, but when I saw him mentioned great reset, I know certain Catholics who thought, oh, this is proof that Vigano has lost it. This is proof that Vigano has become a crackpot, right? But the other people on the other side, you're right, they said, wow, this is great. There's an Archbishop paying attention to this. Now me, what it caused me to do was try to educate myself about it because I don't like to close my mind off to something just because I haven't heard of it. You just ignore it and assume that it's, you have to do your research. And the easiest thing with this, like you said, just go to their sneak in website. They have Grover from Sesame Street. They're trying to indoctrinate Grover. How Sesame Street can help kids grow in the great reset. You just want to wring their heads out. People read all that stuff. Go to the World Economic Forum website. Check the website. The Communist Party, USA, Democratic Socialists of America, People's World, and all these different things. Go to their own literature. If you really want to know what they believe, go to their own literature. You don't have to read what somebody else says about it. Read what they write. And go to the website of Tan Books as well. Get the devil Karl Marx because that's a great one. He's an alien as well. And look for Robert Moynihan's book, finding the, you know, it's fascinating. All right, I'm watching the clock. I've already gone over. I went longer than I said I was going to. I tried to keep these within an hour. Actually, maybe this will be right out of an hour. But Steve Cunningham, great stuff, good stuff. And we're going to come back to you as our kind of, our beat reporter for the great reset conspiracy. We'll be coming back to you periodically. You could give us updates on the latest insanity. That's based the way that insanity is crazy. It's crazy. And people out there watching this, if you're still confused, well, you know, so am I. I, you know, I, but, but no, it's serious. All serious is this helped. And it's, it is hard to get your arms around. It's hard to get your mind around. But, but this exists. And this guy's trying to do it again. This isn't a book by somebody else about it. This is the book by the guy who's doing it. All right. All right, Steve, God bless. Thanks for all you do and come back again soon. Paul, you're welcome. Yes. No problem. All right. Thank you. And in a month, we'll be doing another podcast and these are posted and Steve is going to put up there where they're posted. So check these out. And we hope to continue to give you more worthwhile podcasts. These are monthly in the, in the months ahead. All right. Thanks. Take care. God bless.