 Live from Austin, Texas, it's theCUBE. Covering DockerCon 2017, brought to you by Docker and support from its ecosystem partners. Hi, I'm Stu Miniman here with the final wrap with Jim Kobielus at DockerCon 2017. The CUBE's really excited that we were here for the third year. Have to have a big shout out to our partners and our sponsors that allow us to be here. Of course, Docker's been a great partnership. They talk a lot about ecosystem. Really bringing in some of the media people like ourselves, giving us some of the great speakers from their company, the partner ecosystem, and their customers. And the sponsors for the show for ourselves, AppLariat, Cisco, Iguazio, Scality, Canonical, and Red Hat. Without them, we couldn't bring you this programming. Really excited to be able to be here. And they're starting to tear down the show here. So not a lot of time. So many things to talk to. Show itself as container. We're not even going to be able to talk about the Franklin's barbecue. But Jim, you know, absolutely. Jim, you've gotten to be on the CUBE here, see some of the show. Give us your quick hits on your takeaways from the show. First of all, my first takeaway is, this is a vibrant developer ecosystem. Clearly, this show is much larger than the year before and the year before that. It'll be probably twice as large next year. That's my prediction, based on the sheer amount of developers migrating into the Docker ecosystem, because so many organizations are docker-rising their applications, container-rising applications. That's a huge focus for me and Wikibon as an analyst, is the containerization of application development, microservices, and all that for cloud deployment, multi-clouds, hot, hot, hot across all niches. So, vibrant ecosystem. Docker, as the core solution provider and the centerpiece of this community, amazing show. The Enterprise Edition, of course, that preceded the announcement of that and the release preceded this show. That's critically important in getting Docker into new accounts that with a full stack, that's clearly, it's enterprise-ready. Developers, more developers will be exposed to Docker through the EE. Docker at this show had a couple of really important announcements for developers. Mobi, Project Mobi for customization of container images and so forth. Clearly, that's going to be a multiplier effect on the ecosystem of developers, ISVs, and so forth. Building applications and customizing containerized Docker applications and images for a wide range of opportunities. Yeah, Jim, just want to comment on the Mobi piece here, because it was really interesting. I think the last couple of years, it's been that pull and tug as to what was the open-source piece? What is the company itself doing? And I think it's clarifying. Kubernetes is a big rising tide in the environment and all they cared about is they've got the open-source pieces that they need to be able to do Kubernetes. So with Mobi, Project, it's like, okay, now I understand what's out and open, I understand what Docker's doing. I saw some humility from Solomon Hikes, he was talking, he was like, we're listening. We're working ecosystem, ecosystem, ecosystem. So it was good to see that maturity. I mean, there were some people that I talked to and they're like, oh, will this be the last Docker round? I'm like, I don't think anybody watching this show would say that coming out. As you said, I expect the show to grow. It's doing really well. So, you know, kudos to what they're doing and the partners are excited. It's not just lip service. Oh yeah, we did some little announcement on the side. It's no, we're excited. This is there, you know, I know you've got a bunch of pieces, but I want to ask you, are developers excited about taking those legacy? There's lots of news I'm going to analyze. Applications and like helping to move those in or they only want to work on the cool new stuff. That's a huge theme, MTA. I forget what exactly the acronym stands for, but it's wrapping legacy applications, containerizing them in the Docker ecosystem. That is so important. So all of these legacy, you know, applications will be Dockerized before along and refactored. In addition to all the Greenfield development of containerized applications. So the MTA announcement, just as critical as the Mobi announcement and so forth in terms of NEE prior to the show, of getting Docker, getting their ecosystem, getting developers working in this environment, more and more developers. This entire Docker, this entire ecosystem has a magnetic force on the developer community or will. Those were very important. Also, I thought the announcements with Microsoft in terms of containers are going into windows in a larger way, Linux containers and so forth. That also, because Microsoft has a huge presence obviously in not only enterprise, but small and mid-sized businesses. We're going to see Docker in ever smaller deployments, hosts and so forth across the board. Smaller, you know, more buyers in other words, more companies will be Dockerizing more applications. Thanks to, in part, Microsoft as clearly a forerunner. Jim, absolutely. I say it at almost every cloud show. I want to follow the data. I want to follow the applications. And you had Microsoft and you had Oracle. Two of the big players from an application standpoint. Oracle's now in the Docker store. In the Docker, Oracle's in the Docker store. That is huge. That has validated containers and Docker. How about you, from the data standpoint? I heard, we talked to Guazio about some of the, you know, analytics and things like that. You're a data guy. What's a data guy? Think of a show like this. Is it too infrastructure focused or did you see some of the data? No. It's infrastructure focused in the sense that it needs to be to harden this technology for enterprise deployment. But it's really DevOps focused. And you know, Kubernetes and everything and swarm and whatnot. Look at all these vendors here of these tools for the DevOps lifecycle, Kubernetes and everything. That's really, really important. It's all about developers and speeding, you know, development and putting, you know, containerized Docker applications and images into production and managing them and securing them and so forth. This, the sheer range of DevOps tools that on the show floor, that's packing up now, was amazing. I'm just uncracking my research here. Very important. So we're going to wrap up. So the adoption is amazing. There's, I mean, all these industries, including like Visa, we had a swami who have adopted Docker into core applications that they're running major businesses on. That's some serious validation. One of the feedback I got from, it was actually John White from Expedient talked about and he said, he deals with kind of the small to mid, little bit large enterprise. And he said, all this keynotes, it like reminds us of AWS re-invent a couple of years ago. It's like big global names. I mean, it's, you know, you know, Visa, you know, around the globe, you know, Northern Trust, you know, these are not, you know, kind of your regional companies that, you know, did a little initiative. It's, you know, virtualization started in a lot of small environments. You know, containerization still, you know, really started, I mean, started in the likes of Google. You know, I remember the first DockerCon. It was, you know, Google and Facebook and they're the ones that have been doing these projects pre-docker and it's slowly moving down. And part of the things I look at is, you know, where's the watermark? Where below this? You're probably not going to do containers because you're going to go live on a platform that leverages a container. The service riders I talked to, the cloud guys, I'm going to go right, I'm going to go to Microsoft. I'm going to go to Oracle. I'm going to go to AWS. I'll be on whoever it might be. Right. Any of them because they're going to just take care of that and I won't care that it was containerized. So at the end of the day, it's not that tool. It's the wave of that modernization. Oh, yeah. I want to end on a data note because we were talking about data. Okay. I thought Iguazi, I thought Yaron was very, that was very good to have him. There's a lot of storage vendors here like Veritas and Southport. So storage, you know, in a Docker environment and persistent storage and data protection, quickly important, but also containerizing the new wave of, you know, applications that are machine learning and deep learning and artificial intelligence. We got a fair look at some of that from Solomon yesterday because Solomon mentioned that the OpenAI consortium is based of their internal test bed training network on Docker, on Swarm and so forth. In my prior life, I just joined Wikibon a few weeks ago. I focused on data science, which is a key development theme, by the way. I'll focus on for Wikibon. I saw a lot of containerization. I saw a fair amount of Docker and a lot of the data science oriented app that's going on in the business world. That's going to be a huge theme for me under Wikibon. But also, I mean, Solomon sort of alluded to a lot and so did Yaron. A lot of the work that's going on in the AI community, Dockerize their application, TensorFlow and all that. Huge theme, we'll probably see much more of it next year's DockerCon, I predict. Containerizing AI for deployment into autonomous vehicles and whatever. Jim, you know, you've long been a CUBE alum, but now you are a veteran of doing the CUBE. But really appreciate you coming on. I'm on this side of the table. I want to give a shout out, you know, to the whole team here. You know, John Furrier I know was, you know, really disappointed. He loved this show. Usually my co-host a lot of these open source shows so John, you better be down here in Austin for CUBECon at the end of the year with me. You know, so many shows kind of now through like July 4th, the CUBE has so many activities going on. If you go to thecube.net, you can see all of our upcoming shows. Always watch us live. If we're not on a show that you think we should be at, you know, go ahead and ping us, reach out to us Twitter or through the website. Jim's research, a lot of it's going to be on wikibon.com, siliconangle.com is also where we have some research corner, some of the other pieces there. So check out the whole silicon angle media for Jim, myself, Ava, Leonard, Brendan, Jay, Sam who's already, you know, heading to the airport. Thank you so much for watching the CUBE. Hope to see you at lots of shows coming around and thank you for sharing.