 Welcome to the inaugural Redman Group for the 22 convention. The very first one the year is 2020. A lot of things happened in 2020 and for me this is the most exciting thing this year. We have a great panel of experts, opinions, expert opinions, and first guy on the panel. I'd just like you to introduce yourself. My name is Pat Steadman and I'm a dating and relationship coach for men. I'm Socrates and I am a I guess a dating coach, mentor, and strong advocate for father and fathering. I am Anthony Dream Johnson, first president of the Manisphere and founder of 21 Studios and the 21 convention and 22 convention. And I'm George Bruno, the moderator of this panel. I'm Jennifer Molesky and I have a YouTube channel where I mainly talk about self-responsibility. I just want everyone to be fulfilled within themselves. I'm Coach Greg Adams, author of the free agent lifestyle and the evolution. The links are in the description box below. I'm Michael Foster and I'm a pastor. What I want to talk about first, number one, this is a new event here in the same way that the Patriarch Convention last year was a new event and a risk. You never know when you do something new. You just never know how things are going to be received by people. And Anthony, I have to say that it started out very controversial. The phrase, and I'm gonna start with you, was make women great again, which is probably the most triggering phrase of 2020. Tell us about the origin of that before we actually start with the reactions to the convention. And you were there when we first unveiled I think in 2018, right? Yeah, I love that moment, man. You could see it on my face too in the video in the speech when I put it on. So make women great again actually came from two people actually. So I found Molly knew actually I think was the first one ever made a video on it. He had a video before he was nuked from YouTube this year and it was it was called make women great again, but it was about like voting and politics and stuff. It wasn't like what we're doing now, but I'd seen that. And then I saw Richard Nicolai, a good friend of mine and along my speaker of this convention, the 21 convention for men several times over, and he had made a gag hat that was very similar to make women great again. It said make women great again, but it was layered in four tiers. They didn't have the style of this, which is part of what makes it very triggering because it looks like a mug hat, but it's not make women great again. Anyway, I saw him post that randomly on Facebook or a friend of his, this girl he made it for in 2018 right before the 2018 21 convention, which is huge that year over 200 people came out. It's huge. Anyway, I saw that late at night, two in the morning were exhausted, events about to start. My staff had just flown in from around the country stuff for the event, camera guys, you know, event staff and stuff. And I saw it on Facebook from him and that girl, you know, two in the morning I just fell in love immediately. I just I just I knew I just my gut was like, this is going to be fucking huge. In 2018, you're in the middle of Trump's first term, the country's still getting even now in 2020 still haven't accepted him as president, right? I was all the fake news crap, but I just knew immediately I saw it. I was like, if I turn that into a better hat immediately and do something with it, I just I saw a vision for it. Like I could see almost in the future with it. So I rush ordered it the next day. I was yelling on my guys that keep them up to three in the morning. I'm gonna make the hack. I'm gonna make the hack. It's gonna be fucking amazing. They'll tell you the story. I was like, live it with excitement for it. And very much. I guess I was seeing what would happen with it if we put together into a speech and into a conference sometime. And I also figured out pretty quickly because I wove and I wove it into my speech that year. The future is still masculine. I was my keynote at the 2018 21 convention. I knew it was gonna provide I get sense it was gonna provide the foundation for the 22 convention, which I thought of in 2015, a playoff of 21 for a conference for women. But I didn't start it for a couple reasons. And one of the main ones that lacked a fundamental thrust intellectual foundation and direction to take with it. And we could have just done it anyway, self improvement for women. But I don't like doing generic stuff. I like doing epic badass legendary shit. So it all kind of came together and I announced it in my speech and the men went nuts. You can see the video everyone's hooping and hollering, as Jesse might say. And so the men are very supportive when I said that and put the hat on for the first time ever on camera, which eventually ended up on mainstream news and all the stuff this year. That's kind of the origin. And I would have done it in 2019, but I focused first on the patriarch event like you mentioned. I had that idea from Hunter Drew and Tanner who talked to me, Hunter talked to me about it. So that's why we didn't do it 2019. I put the focus on patriarch and on Poland. So international event last year. And I knew that in 2020, we could do, you know, make women great again. And when we launched it, it just went viral. I mean, I never seen it like that in my life personally. It's got to be one of the most successful viral marketing campaigns in internet history recently anyway, and in the man a sphere by far reached 150 million people, 150 million people. That's it. Boom. What do they say? Marketing is what you pay for publicity is what you pray for. Yeah. And wow, you prove that. Thank you. Well, let's talk to the world's foremost expert in hypergamy. I say that jokingly. Mr. Pat Steadman, what is your impression of the weekend of make women great again? What are your thoughts? I mean, I thought it was an incredible event and it really exceeded even like my biggest expectations for it. You had a really, really good audience that I think was was pretty open minded. And I liked how they engaged. I mean, you know, it wasn't it wasn't like they just accepted everything. There was some tension at points, and I thought a lot of questions were really good. And I feel like it it was a good part to like create a dialogue, which I think we really need. And so there's a lot of women who came into the to the room who were, you know, much more sort of aligned with our thinking and others who I really applaud them for having the curiosity to come here and well, let's hear what they have to say. And I think that everybody came out of it really, you know, with their consciousness raised. I mean, this is a as we talked about in, you know, the other red man group, 21 convention one. I mean, we are this is a very big threat. This sort of radical, this feminist ideology is a threat to families. It's a threat to relationships. I mean, as a relationship coach, as a dating coach, I just see how it just it's it's ruining people's happiness. Like men and women are having a really, really hard time getting together and connecting because of all this this garbage that's that stopped that's making them hate each other. And so I think, you know, if we want a healthy society, we want happy relationships. You know, we want babies, right? This is a really, really important step in the right direction. And I don't think anyone's ever done anything like this before. So I'm very, very positive about it. Yeah, it was kind of interesting because I mean, I didn't see any blue hair here. Yay! Those are just a step in the right direction. We did take a risk because you never know how these things are going to go. You just you do something like this and it has the potential of blowing up in your face. And you did receive a lot of crap. Well, nasty women, the violence threats, they start to bomb the event. They wanted us to get shot like a mass shooting. I mean, the shit that actually came in through Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter was really nasty. And I got used to last year. I had a lot of that from the inner manospheres and toxic crap there. But it was it was substantially larger than that. I mean, it was thousands and it wasn't as to me, it was the speakers. You guys were getting your inboxes flooded. It was everywhere. Were there other men doing the threats? Like were there manosphere guys, men's community guys that were against this? They were. I didn't get any threats from them that I know of for this event, but they were very annoyed by it. They were very pessimistic about it. You can't make them agree it again. Women are going to respond to any sort of dialogue or logic. It's all absolute bullshit. Not that other elements of persuasion are unimportant, you know, emotional and physical and being there in the presence up here. This is a performance too. It's not just some intellectual like this isn't like writing in a book. This is that's like that's something too. But this is a whole performance up here. You see someone's face, you see how they move, you see what's going on, the lighting, the audience, the engagement, the eye contact, the physicality of it. So yeah, there was some pushback on the manosphere, but those guys are all losers and nobody cares about them anymore. Socrates, your impression of this weekend and your impression of when it was initially conceived? Oh boy, the initial conception. Let's start with that. I was faced, I guess, with a second occurrence in my life is that, you know, you talk about history repeating itself or similarities of history. Over a decade ago, literally in this hotel, there was an opportunity to be part of a function under 21 convention by a very, very young punk who just had more drive than anybody was comfortable with and no, was simply not an answer and he was going to not accept failure. He was going to will it in existence. He literally created reality and he did. And more than a decade later, we're discussing the need to have a conversation with women, the need for men to speak up in an organized way about the changes taking place in our culture and take ownership of that and have that discussion. And I also realized that that conversation was highly threatened. It was verboten. There will be consequences, which I think in all honesty and sincerity, while we may not have had a bomb threat or an assault today or this weekend, I don't think the ramifications are over. I think it'll be interesting to see how this plays out in the public sector once the videos are released and in very direct ways. I know I've been threatened. My family's been threatened. My four-year-old daughter has been essentially threatened with sexual assault because of a position I dare say to hold women accountable to what they say. I find that incredibly vile. So this time I back the winning horse despite all opposition and rationality to say no, not me, not my family, not my job, not my child. And I sit here today being very, very proud of the man to my left. How did the weekend, here we are, how did the weekend go? We're at the end of this event. I think it was a rare gift. I think there was some exchanges. I know I was the first one up. I didn't know if I was going to get rocks or panties thrown at me. I know I was hoping for one, not the latter. But it was an opportunity for me to, for the first time, have women hear what a man has to say in an honest and sincere way. The second was I was able to hear women firsthand their stories of how they were sold to build goods and how they've been hurt and damaged and how it's affected their lives and the emotional impact of hearing those stories firsthand, looking at the person's eye and having that exchange is not something you find on YouTube or read in a book and I find that terribly, terribly impactful. I'm, this can't stop and so I'm, I'm, I'm very optimistic about the steps we're taking. I think they're long overdue and I think it's just been a tremendous weekend and event and I am absolutely looking forward to being part of this again in the next, next round. I told more than a couple women this weekend, the attendees, that your voice is important, that we're not here to preach at anybody, we're here to create a dialogue and even though there was a lot of, I don't think it was so much bravado, I know you took a big risk with the words that you used in promoting this and some people took offense at the words and I think what's going to happen is some of the fallout of the attendees on social media is going to soften some of that because it's not, this is not what it initially appeared it was going to be. It wasn't a bunch of men telling women to make us sandwiches. I kind of did that in my talk. Make sandwiches great again. Sandwiches, babies and cookies. Yeah, you'll make a lot of it. But everybody's voice is important and I think everyone has a role in speaking, everyone has a role in listening. I think that and that leads us to Jennifer Molesky. What do you think of the weekend? I liked it. I'm really honored to have been chosen to speak here. I really believe what I say and it's interesting because I've been saying to people, I feel like there's a one thought of red pill is that it's a red pill and it is given and if you don't do with the information what we tell you to do then you're an idiot and then there's just here's some information and you have your own unique life go do with it what you will unique human and that's what I found with with all the speakers. It was just a lot of different people saying here's information here's what I think would behoove you here's a suggestion but go unique one and and it was really it was it was awesome. Yeah, there's no purity test for the red pill or for the manasphere. It's not like everyone has to recite a common creed. Every single person on this panel is different. Everyone has different content but we come together and create an event. Well is it a brand or a truth? Can you can you brand a truth? Intellectual Property Rights would say no I don't think but and that's kind of how I see it. If you want to brand it fine but then it doesn't become truth anymore. An axiom can't be owned by anyone but I'm a woman so I'm not sure I could be wrong. Coach Greg Adams you are new to this organization. You had the pleasure of coming when we had three events under the same roof. Your thoughts please. Well I believe the the time is overdue for us to look at the the measurements of feminism and be able to evaluate it without being silenced and Anthony provided the opportunity to do so and you had several women that came out. They exhibited a lot of courage to sit here and listen to men give their perspective finally without shame, ridicule, emotional responses they all were there to hear a logical presentation about it. So they exhibited a lot a lot of courage but I think a lot of the speakers weren't just speaking to the attendees they were speaking to the audience that is going to watch this after the videos were published. Overwhelmingly I thought the support was there after my presentation people came to me after the fact and said that they appreciated what we were talking about. A lot of people that have been through generations in America that have seen what I call the death, debt and destruction as a result of feminism and I'm hoping that those individuals who chose to attend will be willing to talk to the generation z the alpha generation that follows them to give them an opportunity to not experience the decrease in the birth rate, the divorce rate, the lack of marital rate that we have going on in this country and of course I'll talk about in my book The Evolution the barbarian is now at the gate. What are we going to do? So right now we had an opportunity to provide our feedback and I think now more men will have courage to be able to speak about these issues. Mr. Michael Foster, Pastor Foster I've known you for a couple years virtually on Twitter we both spoke at a conference last year about a year ago men's conference and I've watched you speak the truth the world on Twitter I've watched you get rocks thrown at you I was really quick man Bob we've talked it was fine and I thought to myself I wonder if Michael Foster would be appropriate for the 21 convention thought to myself is he too too christian for this but I saw that the truth that he talked about is applicable to everybody and I always say that the truth is offensive before it's effective give me your perspective of this weekend as a first time speaker. Sure so destroying feminism or exposing feminism for the lie that it is and the destruction it causes is part of the common good right so if you're in a neighborhood and everyone has their own houses they have their own ideas and their own families and there's poison going into your water supply you all have a vested interest in stopping that right so we all have a vested interest in watching our daughters not be destroyed by feminism but be allowed to be what God made them which is women right and men be men so my perspective is very simple is that on the sixth day God created man in his image he created them male and female he created them right so mankind is equal and and worth and value but exist in two different varieties male female and then he says it is good so it's good to be a man it's good to be a woman it's not good for a woman to pretend to be a man or a man to be pretend to be a woman and so as part of the common good I can find I can be on the stage with you guys we're at the very least co-bulligerants in trying to take down something that is hurting people right feminism isn't pro- women they keep telling women to be men and they're bad at it right so my perspective is that there's good work being done here there's a lot of people you know we all we all disagree about things that's that's the beauty of it we can argue about it we're not trying to water things down but at the same time what we agree about is this this is bad this is bad for society it's bad for culture and more than anything it is bad for women I like that let's go right back to Mr. Pat Steadman is marriage important I think it's essential I mean I don't know how you build a society without it and I'm a pretty nuanced guy I mean people who saw my talk like I try to understand and like very empathize with some of the situations that were in society that maybe laid the foundation for feminism to come in I try to acknowledge legitimate grievances but I mean you know as I've gone and been a dating coach and I've I've seen what's what's been going on out there I mean you know early on there is this thing about pickup and trying to meet girls and I think that guys go through this process some guys need to go through it longer than others but eventually you come to this point it's like almost universal with the guys I work with just that they really just want to find a great woman and they want to start a family and you know they they they burn themselves out a little bit of just the pickup culture and even when there's they're still in it there's this sort of sense like it's because these are the only women I can see out there women who are just you know putting themselves out being very very promiscuous and they get jaded and it's not good for society because you have I mean women don't like doing that I know I know from talking to women they're very frustrated with dating too they want to find a great guy they a lot of them what they want to start families too but this wedge that feminism is created between the sexes it really makes it so that neither of them can get what they want which is which is to form stable partnerships that are really meaningful and that they can build a future from if you don't have marriage you just you just can't have a society because then if you're even going to you're going to have less children but then even the children you have are going to have terrible outcomes and we just see that the data on this is so clear at this point men and women need to work together to fix society we can't just do it do it one of one of us and I think this is why the 22 convention was so important because we need to get women on board with a true equality and really together both sexes building a better future notice i'm asking married men is marriage important and if they have a spouse in the audience they better give the right answer socrates is marriage important it's fundamental to any healthy society any healthy civilization it is going to be the foundation upon which that society is built to that effect we also can sit down and say across all time all generations all continents cultures marriage is the most streamlined efficient method of social governance it's essentially two people choosing to create life and create children and to raise those children and to transcend and educate their social values through their offerings and it's a continuation of their particular genetic lines of the species and the society it needs to go on so it's critical there and I think if you look at the state of any culture and look at marriage and how it's regarded how equitable that institution is it will tell you a tremendous amount about the health and vitality of that society and culture anthony you're a young single man dating meeting women on a regular basis attracting women on a regular basis is marriage important extremely so I like they're saying I agree completely that it's necessary for civilization and without it it's not going to last the west will die and we'll enter what comes after the west if it falls from the collapse of families and marriages and things as we're seeing along with the collapse of gender relations would be like the next dark age so I'd prefer that to not happen I'd prefer we have a renewal and a new enlightenment a masculine enlightenment like I talked about my speech masculine rebirth the feminine rebirth which I think is what basically we're seeing with the man's fear I will diverge a little bit though on that and I have been for several years now since about 2012 I've been very opposed to government involvement in marriage I think the government has done nothing but fuck up marriage it's gotten involved and it's been particularly bad since the 1980s when Reagan made no fault divorce like a nationwide thing and we're seeing I go off the rails now with alimony and you know child support and all this divorce all the whole divorce in the ministry called divorce rape or divorce rape culture and that's very real it's unhealthy and it's toxic and government is fundamental to this it's not just feminists and feminism and all this government is the the tool and the method that they use the hammer they used to do this government is a big problem in marriage and government needs to get out marriage is important but it should be a private religious ceremony and I'm saying that as an atheist so if you're not religious it would not be religious in that case but most people are to my knowledge so it would be a private religious ceremony which I did my own years ago back in 2014 and that's all to do again at some point in the future when I'm building a family when I find good baby mama so uh between now and then I'm single though but yeah government and marriage big fucking no no and it's like I talked about polylum it does nothing to cause problems not only in terms of risk management for men but also it gives women today because the government has been weaponized against men in this way it gives women an unhealthy imbalance of power in their direction which even if nothing ever happens you're just putting a bunch of like uh judgy bitch this blogger great blogger chick socrates knows her too she said once that if she was given a choice early on in the full fact she would not have gotten legally married to her husband that would have still built a life with them uh because she said basically being getting married as a woman you know to a man it's like someone's giving you a loaded gun pointing it at your husband's head and they're like don't pull the trigger for the next 40 years it's better to not have the fucking gun so yeah government involvement marriage is a big problem they need to get out and congressman ron paul former congressman was a big advocate of this so senator ram paul currently and i think a few other politicians currently are interested in this and i'm yeah absolutely power i can interject socrates taught me once about uh crazy women there's plenty of them out there i bp chicks and stuff whatnot they told me that he said maybe in his speech and told me directly that if the vampire can only come into your home if you invite the vampire in and he was referring more specifically to crazy woman bringing them into your life and the problems that comes with right as a man but i view it also in terms of government and inviting it to your home you need to keep the government out of your home once it's an absolute emergency domestic violence things like that otherwise keep the shit out of your home marriage is an obvious one you don't need the government to get to have a wedding you can get a wedding you can have you can trade rings you can trade last names they can take legally take your last name there's a lot you can do on your own without government officiating it and getting involved and tipping the balance of power in a woman's direction which he doesn't want anyway she wants to be submissive and be your woman the government is a big fucking problem with this or a big lopsided problem with it i recently announced to my audience on youtube and social media that i'm open to marriage for the first time in 17 years after a divorce and the comments have been very interesting everything from you know rata ruck to i wouldn't get married as long as the government has anything to do with it and all i said was that i'm open to marriage and if it doesn't happen then that's fine i have no problem i've lived successfully for 17 years but people feel very very strongly about the issue i think marriage is important many people said i would do it but i wouldn't do it through the government same thing same thing jennifer moleski is marriage important yes uh maybe this would be a good time we're talking about uh relationships and whatnot the government what did you say the government should stay out of this completely out of marriage yeah huge advocate of that i think the government should stay out of everything yeah pretty much yeah that's just me i'm i'm very much about voluntarism i'm an anarchist within i believe in no ruler certainly not the government but that's not the question i just want to convert convert everyone into anarchists but that's not going to happen yeah i do think that government is i know whoa i do think that marriage is important it's an agreement and if we can't come to terms with what we're doing then we can't come to terms so i don't mind what you said about you know even having a spiritual ceremony it's fine but i think to declare love in front of other people and declare your intent and promise in front of other people and i think a small community now i'm going to get into how i think wedding should go i think that you should have a small community that does hold you accountable a trustworthy community that will that can mentor you through that but also like i'm just being repetitive now to hold you accountable yes i believe in marriage however you want to do it but i don't believe in government that's it okay now this is where we're going to take a turn when we go to coach greg adams i know coach has a different opinion and i don't disagree with him at all and i told him too that he is an important voice in this world coach greg adams is marriage important i think many people will be surprised by my answer on this one i mean if you've been following me for a long time you know about the free agent lifestyle tenets which is no cohabitation no long-term relationships and no marriage now before i say that i believe marriage is about a lot of things but at least these two things building families and building community now can you say that either exists very well right now there's not a lot of communities not many people know their neighbors families have been destroyed now when it comes to men i believe men overwhelmingly want to be married i've been married i wish i had a successful marriage many men that have been divorced wish they had a successful marriage and many men in here i know when we did the patriarchy the patriarch talk they wanted children they wanted marriages now when i say the three tenets of the free agent lifestyle i say that for two reasons namely people brought it up already the government they their involvement has destroyed the institution of marriage they don't give many couples options and they interfere i try to advise men of what they can anticipate if they decide to be married and that therefore if they don't do their due diligence and they rely on the media to sell the marriage which they say it's about love well then what's gonna happen is he's going to find out the hard way that there are judges mediators lawyers child support offices child protective services court county clerks a lot of people that are involved in the institution of marriage which benefits the court if your family is destroyed so i say those three tenets as a means to have a silent protest until there's marriage reform and if there is marriage reform then we can say let's be about family and community again until then I tell men you really have to do your homework not only with the woman that you want to be involved with but what the family law codes are associated with if you are one of the 60 percent of first divorces 60 70 percent of second marriages dissolving and almost 80 percent of third marriage is dissolving with eight out of 10 of them being women initiating them so is the woman important here is your selection of that woman important well she will dictate whether she will lead you to the slaughter until then I say no to marriage until we resolve the issue I looked up the definition of keeping it real and there was a picture of Coach Greg Adams there's a lot of people who when you're talking they're going la la la la I'm not listening to you la la la I'm getting married no matter what and they want to drown you out and I'm glad you are here adding some balance to things because you're not lying very few people call me a liar okay so a lot of people call me a lot of things they say you're bitter you're hurt you failed at your relationship although there's a million divorces per year okay per year in this country but the one thing that will keep me talking is the fact that people never call me a liar okay and when people start calling me a liar then I will have to find solutions to adjust my message but the truth is the truth whether you like it or not I advise men to not live by the hope strategy because hope is not a strategy you can't hope wish anything you have to know and not only know you have to accept you want to accept the data you accept it for what it is facts don't care about your feelings absolutely not which leads us to pastor Michael Foster is marriage important and in the spirit of the coach here all right I'll give you an answer you're probably not going to expect okay you should probably not get married if your definition of marriage is finding someone that completes you and makes you happy and it's this romantic idea that idea of marriage isn't biblical it's not historical that's a product of romanticism and a lot of changes that happened slowly over the last couple centuries right I love my wife I miss her I can't wait to get home to where I'm dying and get back she she doesn't complete me she's not my soul mate and she doesn't exist to make me happy right and I don't exist to make her happy in people's marriage they find out that that when you put two people together in an enterprise that is a household and raising children that you don't always see eye to eye and it's difficult and the person who you thought was going to complete you and make you happy is actually a source of conflict and trouble and that leads marriages in a bad place put all the calculating stats and risk adjustment all that aside for a moment and just say the way we think about marriage is wrong and that's what that needs to change too and you want to find people that have that same view a woman that thinks of marriage in the same way that you do and the old Westminster standards which is big for Presbyterians gives three purposes for marriage which is helpful companionship propagation of a godly seed having kids and protection against sexual immorality or to enjoy each other sexually that's the purpose of marriage not to complete you well you're the guy who has a very high notch count with the same woman yeah that's right well here's the truth I'm happy married people you don't feel like you're missing out no I I'm not missing out and I'm not here to I'm not here so much to criticize people as I am to tell you that there are happy married people been happy for a long time I miss my wife I can't wait to get back to her that might be blue pill I think I can kill a lot of you with my bare hands you know what so what come on I love being married and it's great it's a gift from God it's a bad time so we do have to tell men the truth that getting married is like a boat that's going through a bay that's got a lot of jagged rocks in it there's a lot of ways to get damaged but this has happened before after the Reformation a lot of people were scared of getting married law was all jacked up that's where our marriage ceremonies come from people were like these guys would say hey let's get hitched and they go out and and have sex in the haystacks they called them haystack marriages and that's when they started saying hey we should probably have public witnesses because this woman's like hey he said we were getting married before we had sex and now he's now he says we're not and there's so so we've had marriage reformed before and we we absolutely need it again but it starts with changing what you think marriage is about I think it's about creating a household for the glory of God a productive home where children are raised and it's amazing how arranged marriages work right they work for a reason because their definition of marriage is different than Americans you know Americans are self-exorbed narcissists and that's that's got to change right and then marriage marriage will be important for more people not just for married men with a high notch count excellent yeah yeah I want to actually I actually wanted to jump in anyway I was getting some water but one of the things that I found it's like so incredible about marriage is the alchemy within it and if you want to grow as an individual there's nothing that helps you to see yourself it's like having a mirror put up to you and so I really really strongly believe in that and I think that there's really I mean obviously marriage needs the laws need reform at the very least I don't I don't really have an opinion based on whether or not the government should be involved in it or not you know my wife you know we had to use the government to get her over here because she was an immigrant so I have you know I don't I don't know how that would work under a non-government system but well yeah then open borders then so anyway but I mean within a marriage just like the transformational power of being with somebody who like people talk about with dating like oh you know you can get girls etc it's like the test on your frame your test as a man like to be a man is like 10 X in a marriage because she can always see like she gets very aware of you and she can see when you're when you're off point and so as a man you don't have just the opportunity maybe fake it for a for a situation you have to really internalize it so anyway I'm I'm you know I think that people have to again go through their process and you know not if you're not ready for a marriage right if you're not mature enough to get involved with that and understand what you're getting into and certainly if you're blind to the risks because there are serious risks especially with the legal structure you shouldn't do it but I do think also as a man I mean some of the things that are scary about getting inside of a marriage are things that are actually really important for your growth George can I make another point please we haven't discussed this I mean we talked about family but the children that are produced from marriages or produced from non marriages baby mama style right these children are exposed to a lot more dangers via divorce and the baby mom syndrome single motherhood okay these kids are at risk for being criminals highly likely to go to prison more than two kid raised in two parent households you gotta think the the only alternative to raising families is either have that kid stay with one parent or have them in a co-parent relationship right where the kid lives in a backpack from the point of origin now I don't know about you guys out there any mom want to hear listening would you like to live in a suitcase or backpack for your entire childhood think about this week to week you go back and forth from one parent to the other there's two rules two set of rules two castles this is not healthy we think about each other oh I would love to love someone complete all of the things that we talked about not many people talked about what children actually experience as a result of this and now these children become the future leaders what are their relationships going to look like they're out there doing monkey double backflips on the carousel and we know it look at the WAP culture and etc they know nothing about family and not to mention people that are raising single parent households who attempt marriage are failures at it overwhelmingly I believe it's like 70 or 80% of people from single parent households who get married are divorced because they don't know what it is about it is about the children and we get too selfish and we misunderstand what it's about it's about family it's about the children we need to keep that in perspective when we look at the options that we have with them let's pivot here how does a woman find a husband attract a husband create a husband how does that happen nuts and bolts pat well I think that the first things I mean the sort of basics of being in shape you know it seems kind of silly to hammer this point home but you know as as Anthony has pointed out I mean you can you can't really say that women in America overall are in particularly good shape and I mean and the men a lot of the men are not either but this goes for men and women I mean if you're out of shape like you're you're dating prospects are really really low and I mean I've even talked about talked to this with some guys who you know we're interested in working with me and I'm like one of the things I ask guys I'm like we'll describe yourself to me physically and you know you don't have to be like in perfect shape or anything but when you have some guys like I'm 300 pounds and it's like we'll you know we'll work with a personal trainer and get in shape before we start this process because you're just playing the game on hard unnecessarily and I think this is particularly the case for women because they have some less variables to attract attention from themselves and a 300 pound guy could be like a millionaire and he could have a you know he could be very loud or whatever compensate for things so that's the first point I also think it's really important to have like healthy communities of of women who have similar values want the same sort of thing as you and who will help to amplify our femininity a lot of women today spend time you know I think you know part of this is the product of having some really stressful work and I empathize with that you know we always have to deal with you know the context of an individual's experience but a lot of women today are not really brought up in circles that encourage them to be feminine or attractive to guys so I think that you know women who who come to events like this or connect with women who are interested in having healthy relationships and in being you know attractive to men that's a really important step because as that energy builds and they simply put themselves out there into the world men are going to be drawn to them especially because there really is like not a lot of competition I mean if you like you go like we've talked a little bit about about Poland for instance where a lot of the women there the women there are and overall quite good shape and and they're feminine and you know there is actually like like I mean there's more competition between girls there but in America like when a girl does even these basic things guys are like mesmerized because there's just not a lot of that so I mean those are the things that I would start with I think it's really important to surround yourself with communities though because people in general but I think especially women really become products of their circles and so if you're out with you know if you have some friends who are really just sort of loud and get drunk all the time and you know basically are promiscuous and sort of I would say more importantly here are just like unconscious like they're just sort of going through the motions and they're not thinking about anything they're doing I would get new friends because those girls are going to rub off on you and there are women who really who care about the stuff who really care about like having these healthy relationships and and dating like good men so now I I used to teach a course on the psychology of career development and job seekers would say there's no good jobs out there employers would say there's no good candidates out there and they're all looking in the wrong places and then of course apps started being developed that would bring people with talents and skills together with employers there's men that say there's no good women out there there's women that are saying there's no good men out there how does a woman find a man socrates you've got a good look you got to believe in the possibility again you know I think Pat was touching on it as well the pond you fish in determines the fish you're going to catch particularly with men you know you know I give this guy a bad time all the time is if you don't want crazy in your life stop dipping your dick and crazy but in particular with women you know the there's I think natural selection is going to absolutely dominate you know so the the physical appearance of the elements of survival survival provision seduction you know those three major categories making up natural selection traits are going to be predominant but the relationship thresholds are always excelled not through natural selection but by social selections the virtuous traits of being within a relationship I you know you know for example I I can honestly say that I was sexually attracted to my partner Mary Francis I mean it was very obvious it was acute there was a chemical response but that's not why she captured my attention long term she captured my attention by being absolutely irreplaceable the virtuous nature of her character of her being how she run her life and not the things she said but the things that she did and and I don't mean like sandwiched up but the areas that would you normally not look at you know to the point that I don't just call her Mary Francis she's always the Mary Francis you know to distinguish every other Mary Francis in the world from her and I think you need to go looking for that and in many ways you're gonna have to go shop women are gonna have to take accountability and agency for this if this is important to them they're gonna have to go interview they're gonna have to make it their job to find and to create that and to and I don't think they have to necessarily be the man's role but I think that they have to put themselves in an advantageous position to find the appropriate individual and cross paths you know if we're talking and social network how do I find and track that that winning job how do I make myself indispensable to that employer how do I create the job that's not there one of the most important ways I think you could do that is by social introduction a friend of a friend who you highly recommend and to do that to traffic that you're gonna have to be vetted by that community and to be engaged in that community and be found reputable within that community before you can have that referral and that is gonna be far more beneficial than any other means of attraction and connection you're gonna probably find unfortunately we don't typically have those particularly where men and women can cross socially those institutions exist but they're friend on by today you know in many cases they're religious based they're community organizational based and so you know look at those things you know and I would say sit down and say you're gonna have to take a proactive role particularly in this dating environment it's it's vicious it's cutthroat lesser women have commodified it for you and there's not a whole lot of benefits for a man of quality and worth even of a marginal level to sit down and say I can rent when I don't have to own and it's far more economically impact the other heinous thing that feminism has done it is literally drained it a femininity and if feminism had concerns about women they would be concerned about this loss of femininity they're they're they're biological natural self I think all these things have to change but on an individual level ladies you're gonna have to do it for yourselves you're gonna have to pick yourself up by the cocktail hill or whatever you know Louis Vuitton and and get out there and outperform your peers but not necessarily in a sexualized wop role you know you know the notion of what's the lyrics I'll the the the the relatively applied one I don't cook I don't clean let me show you how I got this ring you're gonna get those results and in that particular artist's real life her life lasted less than a Carly's you know or I'm sorry her marriage lasted less than a Carly's I think that's a terribly horrible thing to see and to be indoctrinated and embraced by this culture so I would I would say actively go you you want to know brainer come to an event like this and you're gonna find a room of guys that are interested and in all fairness if you were really serious about finding a decent guy don't go to the women's convention go to the 21 convention go to the go to the patriarch convention there are single guys there that are looking to be fathers they're looking to be better men and they want to know how because they weren't fathered themselves you want serious men there's a convention for that I can show you a room you know personally you asked me in passing when am I gonna let my daughter date we're starting now and I'm introducing her to a room of men and developing a culture of men that I will be proud to introduce her to and by reflection of the people I associate with myself she will see the type of men she should choose for herself and that's happening here because of this 17-year-old punk can I comment on that real quick but it's a little older now that's great what you said yeah pastors we share notes like hey we got these people in our congregation well can we match them so I really do think I don't know what to do about women and they're really late 20s and 30s right now in particular in the 30s with the younger women what I would say is look for a family that's in your community that you trust if you don't have a strong family coming from that can help filter for you because we're in your corner and we'll connect you with good guys the other thing is stay off social media ladies like Instagram because in terms of competing you don't want to compete with those people those are terrible people right don't let don't let that into you that voyeurism is bad for women and social media has caused incredible damage to them kind of like video gaming at an extreme level has for men and so I would say stay off that so you keep your femininity because it just sucks it out of them it makes everything a big show and that's what I tell every guy like have you seen her Instagram like what's she about have you seen her social media like right away that's what I and they're telling me well here's her dating app picture and I'm like oh my gosh man let's get off the apps meet them in the wild this is not the way to go but I think ladies if you're young stay off social media look for people who have what you want like a happy marriages and women are happy my wife's very feminine and she is willing to disciple young women I know that's not a lot of that is out there but if it is out there take advantage of it you know that'll help that'll help protect you for making a poor decision and last one marry for demonstrated potential catch them on their way up you have to catch people on their way up when they're at the top like Emily and I are like you know the tree where it grows around the fence right we've grown around each other we've been together so long we just we're don't wait don't wait till they're fully developed when you see the trajectory that potential they demonstrate like you know look at them and show them that you're interested let them know and and you won't die alone if you do that probably not so it's almost like Alan Roger Curry which you would think that talking about direct approach in this scenario wouldn't fit but can a man or can a woman say to each other I want to explore spending the rest of my life with you is that a possibility Michael Foster oh that's exactly what I did so now we were young I look I I'm not gonna be a hypocrite here I got I got together with my life in 1999 before the internet has caused a lot of the the big troubles we're dealing with right now but I walked her home and I said look I'm gonna go into the ministry I'm gonna tell the truth so people gonna hate me and there's a chance I'm gonna be poor right now I'd like to get to know you more but if you can't imagine being part of that like this is not this is not for me right it's not for you either and uh you know I had a real strong mission made her swoon and here we are you know eight kids later is uh it's been good but I think you can say that but in beginning guys keep faking everything instead of being um interest like instead of being trying to be interesting just be interested people just need to like enjoy life when they first meet each other relax a little bit and stop the performing and I think of ladies would just actually take interest in men and just hear them out and talk and and see where you'll find out who's in front of you and then introduce them to your community like Socrates was saying that's that's huge a lot of people believe in this the right one or you'll meet someone when you least expect it and I hate that stuff all these like strange myths about meeting people Coach Greg Adams how does a woman meet a man how does she get married if she desires to be married well I told the uh 22 convention people I said one of the worst things to happen to not only humanity but to women is that they place the camera into their hands okay social media obviously is an issue if you really were intentional about it you have to be intentional you have to delete all your social media apps and dating apps a lot of people live in major metropolitan areas with 10 million people that's where my county county has the divorce rate is 72% but how is it possible you have 10 million people you can't find one it's impossible because your heads down into your phone and not only that we've limited socially how you can interact with people sexual harassment is anything they can just say it is anything cold approaching you know I think the PUA industry did a disservice to a lot of people because now women are you know on guard a little bit Coach Greg yes there are women in this audience that don't know what PUA is okay so that's pick up artistry which was popularized in the late 90s into I mean it's a little bit now they call them dating coaches or there's a little bit of cross section there but now there's men teaching men how to pick up women but I noticed that women are watching those channels too so now they're like I know what you're gonna say to me or do to me before you even get here okay but I can no longer approach a woman on the street without her being on guard or be susceptible to a harassment claim can't date them at work can't say certain things at school it becomes dangerous especially at the college level with the amount of claims false or accurate claims of date raping okay so now I think with those systems in place does it make it difficult to now find a person yeah and now her heads down the entire time she has a hundred thousand followers and here I am can I out intention out attention her hundred thousand people on her dating apps and social media with just me with limitations on how I meet her it becomes difficult so I think with the internet it has smartened us up but it now has made it complicated for us to meet people and not only that some of you guys got here and you got on your tender you got on your bumble and you said who's it where the hose at all right soon as you got in a town all right didn't you do that you guys checked to see who was here now Mary people did the same thing I'm sure at least on your social media so you got to consider people are looking so far outward for their mate when their mate is right there in their neighborhood most likely right there in their circle what Socrates said in terms of meeting people halfway and saying look my friend recommended you how likely are you gonna be a hoe out there with that reputation on the line how likely are you gonna smash and dash her with your friend's reputation on the line you're not you're gonna do that to strangers you're not gonna do it to your friend's recommendation so let's think about that a little bit I wouldn't jump in really quick we talked about social media whether it's Tinder or Instagram I know that's kind of a standardization but I had an instance fairly recently like within the last 30 days as a licensed architect one of our clients is a higher education facility folks and I was a part of a conversation on the side where the administrator was talking about how they had a counselors meeting and the counselors were having commentary that they were under duress and they actually called the meeting to that effect that the students female students were turning to one particular department 100% of them had no interest in pursuing the degree for monetary gains or professional development and were far more interested in the fact that they all had only fan sites and so what we now have is not just a social media platform but a social sexualization media platform for profit and economic gain that a lot of these students are turning to and it's one particular educational facility the entire department class returning all the females were more interested in that platform than they were in the pursuit of that degree actually tweeted the other day I want to mention this one it did pretty good on Twitter and Instagram that women today in America as they're influenced by feminism are more interested in starting and only fans and starting a family yeah and that has occurred me late you know recently and one night I was like wow yeah so I think the age of the three social media has already been eclipsed by new form of alternative digital can I add one more thing sorry I want to add one more thing to that the sexual marketplace value scale in which we know women's fertility is high their level of attractiveness is high the amount of men that they can command is high well they're not adhering to that dynamic and trying to trade that value into it for a good spouse they're using that advantage and trying to gain monetarily and then when they approach that wall and that wall starting to close in on them and they do what I call a half court Steph Curry buzzer beater or a hell Mary at the end they say where have all the good man gone after they've been ran through more times than the Holland tunnel so the reality is the people that watch my show know what I'm talking about here they hear this a lot but the reality is if that's what you're going to do you're going to wait until 32 okay when your your value has decreased significantly and you've monetarily gained on seeking arrangements and only fans and use that to your advantage and you probably ran out of your money by 32 nobody's buying 32 year old women's only fans only monkey sims right but if you really wanted a man you're probably going to do it when you're young that's probably going to be your best case scenario not at 32 42 52 62 well there's women in this audience right now live and who will be watching this video Jennifer Molesky watching this in the future who are of all ages it's going to be interesting how does a woman find a husband it's easy to find a man but it's not easy to find a husband what are your thoughts on the topic well I am happy I'm not in the dating market so I'm sorry because what a tough situation it is out there but I'll tell everyone the same advice I give I give everyone you know there's there's singles meetups I would not attend those I really like the app meetup I know that the world ended a while ago so it's a little bit different but you know if you're serious and you want an intelligent bright man who will guide you and be strong I would say vet them with your interests I always talk about this meetup that I started almost four years ago to talk about a freedom and liberty and the people that I somehow brought in by the grace of God are the most outstanding intellectuals ever and and I will say there's a despair there's not as many women as men but that's just that's just the way it is unless we were talking about sex and then it was like a lot of women would come in to to talk about sex but if we're more women would come in when the topic was sex yeah yeah dating and sex that's when the women would come in but as far as man and we would talk about you know the importance or the or the not good whatever that word is whatever not good is of discrimination or the NAP the non-aggression principle or just all of these really heavy beautiful philosophical things to discuss and the women that came to those meetups those were in my estimation high quality women because they weren't there just twirling their hair they're like let's think and talk and be civil and it was just a different breed they weren't instagram girls coming you know they were real meaty of the earth women that's my really my only advice I'd have to think on it further but I like the meetup you know to to go for interesting things anthony dream johnson how does a woman find a husband what are your thoughts on that that's a great question I've been thinking about this as we went through the panel especially earlier one thing that came to mind that I thought I'd mention is that throughout the conference of 22 con and even throughout the 21 conventions we talk about feminism and feminist but it's important to note that a lot of women today don't identify as feminist but they still are and I think that and I've said before in my speeches that feminism in many ways has become the dominant religion of women in America and Canada and Britain and in the west and that's a big part so there'll be a lot of women watching her like I'm not a feminist but 80% of what they believe that is important to them like deep fundamental beliefs is dictated to them by feminism and has been and has been conditioned into them for decades you know 21 years old since they were a kid or whatever age they are right and watching movies and TVs and TV for the whole life over it so that's an important part of why if they're watching us and that they in life is not what they want at 21, 31, 41 or whatever you might not identify as a feminist and maybe never have but in many ways you probably are and then I realize it I think that's a big issue related to this as far as what to do like Jennifer said you know she said she's glad she's on the data market yeah it's a shit show it's Mad Max out there I call Mad Maxie sometimes from a male perspective but it's just it's a shit show in reverse too there's a bunch of soya boy viscy male soya boy pussies everywhere and it sucks they're feminine little weaklings and it's gross I'm sure from their perspective it must be horrifying as well I have an idea sorry no you please go ahead well what if what if the women you know when I gave my when I gave my speech I was like women go out and do something unique and authentic and shine and be the beacon in your community about to be feminine but what if what if more women that were against feminism created little groups meetups I don't care how you do it to talk about how feminism is bad then you have a group of women vetted who who don't want to destroy the family who who who think and know and can discuss why feminism is bad and then you can have men come in who also agree and then you have a group of people who actually want to think and focus on family so that's only 10% of women what about the other 90% well you don't want to wear Maryam you don't want to marry them I mean this is about vetting right I'm gonna finish my I'm trying to think here this will be a tiny this is perfectly tiny with youth teachers for that error so I brought up the feminism as the religion of modern women in many ways where like a dogma that's very deep and widespread I think this is important because you know and this is a throughout the west you know just America about all western women American and western women are basically driving themselves driving themselves off a cliff they're walking off a cliff like a herd of sheep not all not all but most it's a massive amount that really are in either directly explicitly or primarily their lives are dictated by feminism major life choices like dating and relationships and marriage and family and motherhood so the number one thing you could probably do as a woman today if you're young in America and you have not you're not later in your life you're earlier on is do not do what other women are doing if you see most women acting in a certain way like delaying motherhood to like 38 years old 39 years old do the fucking opposite run the other direction walk the other direction do the opposite or at minimum do something different fundamentally different think different Steve Jobs kind of stuff do anything other than what the sheep are doing walking off a cliff and pick pussy hats anything at this point if you have to travel go to another country like Poland you'll find like real masculine men look around the United States maybe go in the Midwest you'll find more masculinity there a lot less feminism a lot more common sense common sense masculinity and common sense femininity I found this recently in South Dakota I went to the Midwest my first time kind of hunting I want to go to Poland but I can't because of COVID so I went to South Dakota instead and it was a step in the right direction and I liked it see I do anything do something different do not do what the sheep are doing because it's it's a shit show right now and it's not going to change anytime soon maybe we will succeed and make them a great again and feminism will die great it's not going to happen tomorrow it's going to take time in the meantime your eggs are clocks ticking your babies your weight are soon to be kicking I think we should do part two and address it to women that are 40 and over because that's a huge demographic and I would love this panel to be present for that and we do that on like a Zoom call or something Saturdays kind of part two that every Saturday read my group at 11 yes yes all right we're going to end this right here we're going to take any questions that the ladies might have oh we got a we got a wrap oh we have to wrap yeah we got a wrap yeah we don't have time we got a wrap we're already we ended a while ago okay there we go thank you ladies I hope you got something out of this I hope we provided some sanity clarity and reason to the topic and also a bunch of value for you your friends other ladies that you know thank you for being here