 Save 10% with my code Bobby10 on raw, organic, grass-fed and grass-finished, freeze-dried organ meats from grassland nutrition. Link in the description box. All right, guys. Welcome back to the channel. If you're new, my name is Bobby. Guys, we're going to react again to Dr. Zuckerneig today with the video in Somalia, a 112-year-old Muslim man married a 13-year-old girl. How can Islam allow such a marriage? This is, of course, a very heated subject. Many anti-Islamists use the age of Aisha, for example, to make a point against Islam. They say that Islam has no real moral values even because it doesn't adhere to the same values as their Western society. So I believe that this video coming from Dr. Zuckerneig should give us some clarification. With no further ado, let's have a look. Shalom. I'm Danny. I'm a student. I read Bible, studying more about the biblical manners, understanding. And I do read Muslim books. Now, I'm not relating to all the books in what Bible and Quran has. This is something related to my friend, who is my best friend. His name is, don't want to take it, sorry. Now, he is married. And due to some reason, he's planning to divorce his wife. And I find it out that that was a very small reason that he wanted to divorce his wife. And secondly, yesterday I was just reading this Mumbai media and Midday that 112 years old guy, Muhammad from Somali, he's getting married, sorry, got married to this 13 year old girl, Safiya. And I was very disturbed to answer my friend because I just asked one of my friend and he told, this is what we learn and this is what we return and this is what we follow. So, I just went on to the internet as is that this is the easiest way I see because I don't get a chance like Zakir brother for you to question it. So, just I'll just read it for you if you give me a chance to read it from what I found it from the internet. Zakir Naik mastered the getting up of the chairman. Justification and the relationship which Muhammad had. Is that a true or you just help me out to come out of this issue and I can go to my friend and say that this is what exactly the Quran teaches. Do you want to read or do you want me to answer? I just read it first for you. But you aren't satisfied with the answer, no? Whatever. You may say, hope I answer the question. I'm not satisfied, I'll give you the answer. No, hope you say. So, what the paper says, forget about it. Okay. If you are satisfied with the answer, what do you have in your hand? Then that's sufficient. If you're not satisfied, I'll give you the answer directly. Just let me read it. Okay, okay, take it. Brother, put it in just five sentences in precise form, otherwise don't read it. I'll do that for you, sir. This is actually, let me just quote it from Sahih Bukhari, volume 7, book number 62, which Zabir bin Abdullah says when he got married, Hazrat Muhammad says, what type of lady have you married? He replied, I married to a matron. He said, Muhammad, why don't you have a liking for a virgin and for a fondling them? Zabir also said, Hazrat Muhammad said, why don't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you? Now, it's a, I was like a little bit disturbed. This is the preference of Hazrat Muhammad, or after reading Bukhari, volume number 5, he says that- You are more interested in reading the Hadid Zadat than the question you posed. Hallelujah. Correct, right? I just thought that's why I read it. See, you asked me a question, I'll give you the answer. You want to read the answer of somebody else because you want to quote the Hadid. Quote directly. Yeah, because I get an answer from you also, that's why I'm quoting it. See, if you have 2 plus 2, I don't know the answer. I want to tell what other people said. Why about that? I'll give you the answer directly, it is 4. What other people said, 7, 8, 10, forget about it. And that's why I came over here, sir. That's the reason why you're reading somebody else's answer if you're not satisfied. Okay. Correct? Yeah. That means I'll have to comment on both, on the question as well as the answer, correct? All right. Fair enough. Okay. I'll do both, no problem. See, what is the Nia as important? If your Nia was to get the answer, why Muhammad 112 years old, 113 years old, Ma'idah 13 years old, the answer I've given you. But you also wanted the answer of Prophet Muhammad, correct? Yes. Because directly, what do you have to say? I'm not satisfied with the answer given on the internet, given on the paper. Directly ask the question on the Hadid rather than beating around the bush. I'll give both the answers. Okay. I'll give both the answers. Hope I may satisfy with your answers too. Insha'Allah. Insha'Allah. That depends upon you. If I say 2 plus equal to 4, he said no, it is 5. I can't help it. I'll take it. What you say, but I believe what I can believe it. Sure, sure. You have to believe what you believe. You can't believe what I believe until you believe what I believe. True, sir, because it's not law of contradiction. Sorry? Please go ahead. Sorry, what did you say? Please go ahead, because I want to know the answer from you. As far as Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is concerned. Fine. I'll come to it later on regarding the man by the name of Muhammad, you said, no? Yeah. Some person from Somalia, 112 years old, you said? Yeah. Married a girl of 13 years old. Yes, sir. And he's a 5th marriage? 5th marriage. 5th marriage? Yes, sir. Not 5 together, maybe one he married and divorced. 5th, I said. The 5th marriage. 5th marriage, but one divorce can be given, right? At any given time, you can't have more than 4. Now, coming to the answer, why? In Islam, you can marry a woman the moment she gets matured. If she reaches puberty, you can marry. That is Islam. Fine. A woman to marry. For a man, the moment reaches puberty, till he dies. He can marry anyone. Choice is this. Would you marry a woman 15 years older to you? No. No. Your choice. But the Prophet Muhammad married his choice. Prophet Muhammad at the age of 25, married a woman, Hazat Khatija Malla Bilpiswita, who was 40 years old. You will not marry. I will not tell you you have to marry. It is your choice. All right. Now, he wanted to marry. This is something that you can't even discuss in the West, let alone on YouTube. This is why I have to be very, very careful by even watching such material and then reacting to it. But that being said, if you are a Darwinist, that's all I'm going to say. We're not going to talk about religion. If you're a Darwinist, you believe in evolution, then you must believe that once the point of fertility is reached in males and in females, they are ready to go. They are fertile. They're ready to procreate scientifically, biologically, evolutionary. So you as an atheist, as a Darwinist, as a Westerner, that bought into the scientific mindset, you cannot even debate that this is immoral because it is biologically true. Once a woman reaches puberty, she is ready. And I know women personally that reach puberty with 12, with 13, some with 16, some even later. But by the biological default, those women are ready for s***s for procreation and even further for marriage then. There is absolutely no reasoning against it coming from an atheist's perspective. That's all I'm going to say here on this platform. I'm 15 years older to her because she was pious. Who are we to object? He's willing and the woman is willing. What will she do when her husband agrees? Because... Wait, wait. Let me answer. Please don't interrupt. You pose the question. I said sorry, sir. He has accepted, no problem. I said sorry so I can interrupt. So the husband and wife, who are we to object? That woman wants to cover her head. You said don't cover her head. Why? She wants to cover her head and the president of France said women should not cover their head. Why? He wants to enjoy seeing women who can go on the Miami beach. Why does he want to do it in France? Does that make sense? Subjugating. That woman doesn't feel subjugated. He's feeling subjugated. Why? He's feeling subjugated because he cannot enjoy women. He cannot enjoy the lust. So the problem is in him, not in the woman covering the head. But the man is 112 years old. Medical science tells us even a man of 112 years can procreate. Can give birth to a child. True? Yes, sir. Yes, I'm a medical doctor. Now he wants to marry a 13-year-old girl who has reached puberty. What is your problem? You don't give your daughter to him. Who don't give? Am I telling you? Am I telling your sister to me? Again, I'm not saying this is right or wrong. That is for you to decide. However, looking at it from certain perspectives, you will have to understand what your position is first before you critique such a stance. Again, if you're an atheist, for example, you have no moral grounding anyways. There is no grounding other than society and therefore you would say in our society, a 112-year-old cannot marry a 13-year-old because society said so. That is circular reasoning. Of course, circular arguing. There is absolutely no reality in that statement other than a certain preference within that society. Whatever that society deems to be correct, that is automatically correct. However, it doesn't really explain what the truth of the matter is. So if we look into the society as already said, biologically, Dr. Zakhar Nike is correct, it is a fact that that 112-year-old can have s***, can have children with that 13-year-old. As much as we might dislike it, it is a biological fact. So now if you don't take the atheistic perspective, that is fine, then you would take a theistic perspective. Then you would have to look into your own religion and you would have to see if your religion allows such a marriage or not. To be totally honest, looking into Christianity, I don't find any reasoning against that. To be honest, if I look into Judaism, I don't find any reasoning against it either. So ultimately, as you can see, no matter which position we take, theist or atheist, we don't have a true reasoning for it other than we don't like it. No, it's just being fair. Parents also agreed and the girl agreed. She may be liking that man 112 years. What a pious man reminds me of the Sahaba. I sacrifice everything. Because a beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW said, that if you marry a spouse, you look for four things. Virtue, nobility, wealth and beauty. The best among this is virtue. And if a woman of 13 years old finds a virtuous man of 112 years, I would prefer. If I know he's virtuous, if I know, not I eat omdak and harry. I would not mind giving my daughter, if I know that he's a virtuous man and will see to it that he takes my daughter to Jannah, I would not mind. But after verifying, he's such a virtuous man. Remind me of the Sahaba, the Calibra of Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Abu Bakr, Hazrat Usman, Hazrat Ali, Mella, please be with them all. Why not? But today we see more for beauty, more for wealth. I'm not saying that the man of Somalia was virtuous. I don't know. I don't know. But can it be possible? Yes, chances are less. Can it be possible? Yes, chances are less. Why not? If the girl is willing, therefore, I said in my talk, the marriage can only solumenize if… The other side to this argument, to be fair, to show both perspectives, would be of course that the 13-year-old girl is not in the position of making such a decision of marriage. She might think that this is the right man for her, but how would she truly know? In such cases, you of course have the parents that will assist such a decision. But nevertheless, right now, we have this whole discussion with children going through change surgery at a very, very young age. And the argument against it is, of course, that there are children that they cannot make up their mind. So if we're discussing such subjects, we have to take into consideration as well that a 13-year-old girl might not really know what she is getting herself into. If the man and woman agree, that there's not me tomorrow, man, even a 50-year-old come and ask my daughter, I will not give. If I said he's as virtuous as the Khulfa Rashidin, I cannot find a better match. I cannot find. I cannot find a better match. What do you have to realize that maybe that girl found that man to be virtuous? Maybe, I don't know. I haven't interviewed her. I haven't interviewed him. Maybe that man found that girl virtuous? I don't know. So if the man and the woman agreeing, who are you and me to interfere? Why are we trying to interfere? They're right. Now, you may have married a girl. I don't know. Yeah, well, I can take this argument against Zakharinaik as well, because then I could say, hey, if there is a man and another man, and they both agree that they love each other, who are we to interfere? But we all know from a religious perspective, we are to interfere in society. That is, if such a thing happens in a secular society, in an atheistic society, you are in full acceptance of same s**t's marriage. But from a religious perspective, you are not. And then the same argument wouldn't hold true. You wouldn't just say, yeah, let them do what they want. It's up to them and we cannot interfere. Of course you would interfere. Good or bad. We have to be fair. You may think she's beautiful. Someone may think she's ugly. And that's what they say. Why have you married a... Sorry, I'm not getting personal. Your wife may be beautiful, Masha'Allah. But someone comes and objects. Why have you married a ugly woman? You will say, what is bothering you? I find her to be beautiful. Who are you to interfere? Will you get angry or not? Will you get angry or not? Beauty is subjective. Someone comes and tells you, oh brother, what are your name is? You know, your wife is so ugly. You said you mind your own business. That's my wife. Why are you interfering? If somebody comes and decides with your wife. We're not discussing beauty. Obviously we're talking about maturity here. If the woman is in the position to make that choice. That is your choice. So as far as that 112 year Somali man is concerned and the 13 year girl is concerned, chances is very negligible. 0.001 percent. But if both are angry, who are we to interfere? Coming to the answer of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. That why don't you marry a younger woman? Virgin woman? The Prophet may be knowing how that saba is. There's a person who came and said. Yeah, I don't find anything shocking about that statement. I have a very good friend of mine. Hello, if you're watching and he always went for older women and I always would tell a man, stay away from those mills and get a younger woman. I would always tell him the same thing. Now he finally got a younger woman and he's very, very happy about it. Nothing wrong with that statement. Can I kiss my wife? The Prophet said, yes, you can. And then the saba comes. Can I kiss my wife? The Prophet said, no. So the saba said, first one you said, yes. Second one you said, no, why? Because he knew that the first man could control his desire. While fasting, even after kissing the wife, he will not go beyond that. The second person, once he kisses the wife, he will break his fast. He will go beyond that. Prophet knew, you don't know, I don't know. Similarly, the Prophet may be knowing that if he marries a maitrain, maybe yet he will go after beauty. So the Prophet advises him. But what did the Prophet do? The first woman he married was 15 years older to him. 15 years with you and like doing. You just told me that. Yeah, please let me know in the comment section because I heard different sources there and some people say that actually she wasn't 40, but she was 25. Please let me know in the comment section what you think is right. Get it? Yes. So the Prophet, he knows, because he found piety in Hazrat Khatija, may Allah be pleased with her. Therefore, she's one of the four past women in the world. So the Prophet knows. Like I being a doctor, I may give one medicine to one person, second person, second medicine. You'll ask, why have I changed your medicine? Because I'm a doctor, I know. You're not a doctor. So the Prophet gives different advice to different people depending upon the situation. You don't know what Prophet knows and do you think what the Prophet said is wrong? It's right. Some people may like younger girl, some people may like older girl. So what do you have to realize that it is nothing wrong? It is advice given by the Prophet. Did he say something which is wrong? No, perfectly right. But see his lifestyle. All the women he married, except for one, only one was virgin. All of them, they were either divorces or they were widowed. Sir, actually it's not liking or unliking, getting married to 100 and 200. Brother, you asked me the question I gave the reply. He's angry. I'm asking the question, but how does Quran relate to this people? Which people? Which people? These people, those who are getting married in this particular age, they're liking or unliking. They like something else. The Quran says, do not inherit women against the wishes. Surah Nisa chapter 4 verse 19, but if the woman wants and the man wants, who are you and I to prevent? Who are you and I to prevent? What is bothering you? I'm asking the question, if he finds piety in that young lady and that young lady finds piety in that elderly man, what is bothering you and me? Tell me, is it unmedical? No. Can they procreate? Yes. What's the problem? That's correct. Imagine someone comes and tells you why have you married a black woman? Why have you married a white woman? I mean that's your choice. In Islam, a woman becoming black or white does not make a superior inferior. What the Prophet said, the best is virtue. Now why did the man of Somalia, the age of 112 married 13, I don't know. I'm just bothered to know. Is it logical? Yes, chances are very less possible. Same thing what the Prophet advised. So I'm asking the question, if the girl and the... Of course it's not logical because that woman will be widowed. I mean how long will this man live? 113 years old is probably one of the oldest people that ever lived on this world. When will he die? Give him one year, two years, give him even 10 years if you want to, then that woman would be 23 years old and widowed. Boy, agreeing, why are you interfering with the choice is my question. Do you have a right to interfere is my question. I'm asking you a question. Do you have a right to interfere when the husband and wife are doing something with their life? It's not going against the Quran. It is not even jub... Again, it depends. If you take the Quranic stance, then maybe not. But it depends on your position, which society you find yourself in. As I said, the atheist will appeal to his society and to the age of consent. And therefore then yes, he would have a right to interfere, of course. It always depends what position you take and how strong your argument is from that position. As I said, even if we break down the atheistic argument, we don't really find a very strong position behind it because biologically what Dr. Zakir Naik says here holds true. But societally, they would still be in the right. But I think you're right. So, man, sir. Yes. So, again, is that liking or not liking? I'm not interfering in them. They might like 112 years old man or 13 years. But my thing is, how this Quran words related to these people, like they are doing it. What they are doing it? They do have an answer. The reason for criteria to get married is you should reach puberty. Have they reached puberty or not? Can a 13-year-old girl reach puberty? Yes or no? Do you know the answer? No. Can she reach puberty? 13 years. You don't know. Your doctor, sir. Please tell me. In India. Of course you can. In Delhi, the report came. If a girl reaches puberty by the age of 10, nothing to be worried about. Age of 10 also. It's very common. Many girls, hundreds of girls were less than 13 and they have reached puberty. Many. It's not common. So once you reach puberty, finish. You may have preference. Okay. The Indian law says 18 years. Indian. Right. Indian law. If you were an Indian, it would have been illegal according to the Indian law. Exactly. America says 16 years. Now who's right? America or India? I'm asking you the question. 16 years or 18 years. Who is right? According to their law. Ah, their law. It's according to the Quranic law. Very good answer. Very good answer. The problem is that when America says 16, you have no problem. When Quran says 13, what is your problem? I didn't say no problem. You can manage. No problem. Thank you. Then you got the answer. Quran says as long as they agree, there is no problem. In Texas, in Texas. Zakir Naik is getting a bit too worked up for no reason. The American law says a woman should be minimum 16 years old. All right. In India, if a 16-year-old girl gets married, illegal, haram, prohibited. Yeah. In Texas, because the Texans, they marry at the early age. There's a special law for women of Texas. At the age of 14, they can get married. Now, what's the answer? Do you agree with a woman of 14 years in Texas to get married? Right or wrong? Again, I said, sir, it's their law. Their law. Correct. Who are you to object? I didn't object. I'm asking a question. In America, if a 115-year-old man... Yeah. I don't really like the approach here. As I said already, yes, it is correct. He confirms exactly what I said. You have different law sets and they have different rules. Are they really based upon something? That is the question here. And as I said, no matter which stance you take, there is really no justification either way. If you don't accept that stance first and foremost, if you accept the Quran being the word of God, then you will have to stick to it. And that's that. You will find further proofs within biology that could confirm your beliefs. And within the Western society, you will find a discrepancy because the legal age is 16, for example. But the woman hits puberty with 13. Or maybe the woman hits puberty with 17 or 18. So this law is arbitrary at best as well. But that's not really the question that the guy has here. He simply wants to understand. And I don't think that Dr. Zakir Naik is really giving him a fair answer. Marry the 14-year-old girl. Is it allowed or not in Texas? Allow. But when Texas allows, so why can't the Quran allow? It may not go down your throat. No problem. You don't marry. I don't know whether you live 112 years or not. And no, I don't want to be. But even if you live... Let God bless you. ...if you don't want to marry, it's your choice. It is the choice of an individual. This is the right what Islam has given, which you want to take away from man and woman. Islam has given that right. They have the right to choose, brother. May the peace of Jesus Christ be with you, sir. Brother, as far as if you say, may Jesus Christ be with me, I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ peace be upon him. You say shalom alaikum. It's the verse of the Bible from the Gospel of Luke chapter number 24. I say shalom. Shalom. It is shalom alaikum. It's not shalom. Peace be with you, sir. It is shalom alaikum. It's not shalom. Yes, it's the same. It is shalom. Shalom alaikum. Means it's not only shalom. I'm giving you the reference. Bible, Gospel of Luke chapter number 24, verse number 36. It is shalom alaikum. Yes, shalom alaikum. Shalom alaikum in Hebrew and Arabic. Assalamu alaikum. May peace be on you. Yes, brother. But when you said that may Jesus be with me, in what? In teachings or in what? As far as teaching the concern, Jesus Christ peace be upon him said, in the Gospel of John chapter number 16, verse number 12 to 14, I have many things to say unto you, but ye cannot buy them now, for he when the spirit of truth shall come, he shall guide unto all truth, for he shall glorify me, he shall tell you things to come. Prophet Jesus peace be upon him said, there is another messenger to come, and his name will be Muhammad peace be upon him. So I'm following the teachings of Jesus Christ peace be upon him. That is the reason I'm following the teachings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. If you don't want to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ peace be upon him, it is your problem. You can refer to my video cassette, similarities between Islam and Christianity, you'll get more information. Find the question, you can go behind the queue and ask me brother. Please go behind the queue and you can ask me brother. All right guys, and this is it for today's video. Didn't really like the approach of Dr. Zacher Naik here. What I really admired in him was his patience in the other videos that he always was patient with the speakers, always had an answer to everything. Here he seemed a bit triggered. I would understand of course, because this question has been posed many many times. This is a sensitive subject and this is a weak point so to speak that the secularists or the Christians want to attack within Islam. Therefore I do understand the reaction to a certain extent. Nevertheless, I like the calm and collected approach. All right guys, but this is it for today's video. It is long enough as it is. If you liked it, leave a thumbs up. If you haven't subscribed already guys, please do so. And if you want to support this channel via Patreon, for example, all the links are in the description box below. Thank you so much for your ongoing support. As always, may God bless you all, much love and peace.