 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique house issue, boy, E.C.E.O., and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Maker, what's going on? None, none, Midell. Hey, man. What's going on with you? None, none. Blast. 2022? I'm here. We here. Hey, man. We got a guy here today, man. He's a frequenter of the show he comes in when he feels to, you know, does what he want to, you know. We got a lot of respect for this guy, man, when I didn't have no followers and no subscribers or nothing, I got a hold to this guy early on and he didn't hesitate to come and support what I was doing. Well, we were doing. Well, I'm boss talk. We boss talk. Oh, okay. That's what I'm talking about, man. You're the official Mr. Maker, man. What we was doing. Shout out to Money Moses, who ain't here tonight. Exactly. Man, I got my boy half pain. What's going on? Half pain. What's up with it? Man, it's good to hear your voice, man. Good to see you, man. Yes, sir. Again. Again. Again. So what's been going on? Man, tell me. Just give me. I'm going to start this off a little different. I want to say this. Uh-oh. She waited. I want to say this. He wearing that junkie. Where's your gear? You supposed to be wearing. I see you launched your new gear. You supposed to be wearing your gear. Okay, man. I just took them to get pressed up a few hours ago, so they're not going to be ready till Thursday or Friday. Next time y'all see me, I have. But you'll bring nine over? I'll have some for y'all. Yeah. We'll have a whole show dedicated to half pain when you launch it. Officially bring them back. We're going to do it the way we do. We'll get you some models, too. We got you some models. You don't have to worry about that. For sure. I promise. We're going to show out. Bring time. Bring it on the fire right there. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. I love that. Okay. So what inspired you to do a clothing line? I should have been doing it a long time ago, actually. You're right. I actually did it before in, like, 2017. I asked them, would you look at these shirts? It went well. I just didn't ever continue. Keep it up. Yeah, I just did, like, one order, got them to. I really did a lot of giving them out. And I did, like, booty shorts for the girls. I was in the strip club, just giving them away to the strip. It served its purpose, but... See, that's what you got to do in the beginning, though. You got to give that merchandise, what do you say, product placements? Well, I don't think he has to be so keen on that now because he's more established. Yeah, because you built your brand. But back then, yeah, you was like me. I was, yeah, I done been there. You start trying to do something to make something happen. Exactly. But thank God that you've been consistent and been doing this thing. So everybody know who you are and what you got going. And if they hate us, they're going to back up. If they love you, they're going to come closer. So design-wise, what did you do differently with the design now that you didn't do back then? I just switched it up. I just switched the whole look of it up, really. I'm actually using that design not only for my clothes, and that's going to be my new design. You'll see it on my videos and everything that I have going that you will see. Would you look at this on besides my chains or something like that? I'm not switching my chains and shit like that. Get another chain and add it on. Or get another chain. I might, but yeah, that's the new logo going forward. But that's smart because that's what you have to do because when you look at McDonald's or any of these, because we look at these big chains, they use that same logo on everything because that's what people see and know you by. Would you look at this? Where did that come from originally, like when you first said, this is what I'm going to use? I know running it, seeing it because I run it. Yeah, but. It was actually a guy named Ed Bassmaster on YouTube. It was like a funny as YouTube video and he was saying to somebody to look at this car. It was like, would you look at this car? Yeah. That's where it came from. So when you knew that was going to be the tagline, I never switched it. Once I put it out there, it hit so hard that I just knew I had to stick with it. You knew you had. Who designed the logo though? But the first one? The first one was a guy named D-Hawk CM. He put it together. You just told him what you wanted and he did it? Yeah. Okay. So why change from that logo to this? Well, actually, no matter of fact, now, okay, now I'm thinking about it. My very first, would you look at this logo? I did it myself. I actually like, I didn't even know how to use like Photoshop or none of that. I actually put it together in my video editing program and just screen shot it. It was kind of, I wish I had a picture of it right now, but then I sent that one to him and he just made it look a little better. And then this new one, my partner Juice, Juice Designs did it. But why did you feel like you needed to upgrade? Everybody always, every logo always upgrades. After how long? After it? No. It's been years. I mean, D-Hawk's having upgraded. Yeah. I mean, they changed the look a little bit. A little bit. They never changed the art, but they changed the look. A little bit. Who, you talking about McDonnell? Yeah. They had that one little thing at first on both sides of the building. That's what the building was like first, first, first. Yeah, they still got a few of those too, where it just boom. But this one has been around for decades, how they've had it now. Mm-hmm. That color matters. I think color matters a lot when you're doing stuff like this. Oh yeah, for sure. You got to have pop and color. So how are you going to change up the design? You're going to change the styles per, you know, like season. You got the summer. I told somebody this. When I try to educate on this channel, you should have a summer, right? Mm-hmm. You should have a fall. You should have a winter. And you have a core line. And you should have a spring. And you have a core. And you just have a core line. Uh-huh. You need to have all three, take a little bit of, you know, redesigning. Work. A little bit of work. I got a couple different designs already made. That's just the first one. No, no, no. But is this going to be your core? Because you know how, when I say your core, that's the design that will never go away. Correct. This is what's going to always be your basic logo. That one is this. Okay. My original. I'm still, I'm always... You're still going to press those and have those and sell those? Yeah. Okay. But this is the new look that I'm pushing right now. This is always going to be around. Okay. So yeah, but you're going to have a clothing line where your people can buy the core. And it takes... He's just going to do his logo apparently, right? Is that what you did? Or are you going to have like other stuff with your logo on shirts? No, it's going to be... I'm going to do a whole clothing line. It's going to be different type of designs. That's what I was trying to figure out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. This is just the beginning. I'm going to most definitely have some different designs and stuff going on. If it's anything we can do to help. I mean, I know we know a little bit about it. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. We could definitely... So when are you going to launch everything? Because what are you coming out with Thursday? Just jogging sets or... Yeah, just the jogging sets right now. And then... And how many colors? Because I see what you posted. I got five colors right now. That's a little bit more than what you posted. Because I think you want to... I posted five. Oh, five? Okay. You don't want to share the price point for me? The price? Yeah. How much you selling them for? 80. 50 for the top, 30 for the bottom. Okay, that's good. That's reasonable. Bring me some. I'm going to bring me some. I'm going to put some in the store too. Okay. I'm going to buy some for me. I know folks do, man. You ain't going to find them real. Like, I'm going to buy some that's going to be here. So you'll be like, go over to E and all that E. He got them over there. Yeah. Just like you see... One side of this. Wait a minute. Just like you see Charleston white shirts over there. Oh, yeah. I didn't even look through the time. Yeah, but I'm just telling you. I always do that. I buy... I bought them from him. So I'll buy some... enough to where we can put them in the store. Because that's what I'm doing. We're going to support the people who... Support us. And who are here and genuine to the city. If we can. That's what I like doing. For sure. So I can't wait. When am I going to get them? When we have me pressed up, at least by 4 Design of Peace, right? I'm going to buy... I'm going to buy like, yeah. I think I want a wholesale price. Now don't try to bring that thing over here. I just thought about that. I can't sell them for what you're selling them for. So you're going to have to work with me. Yeah. Now we're working out. We're working out. I don't need that much. I get a whole little batch just for you. Yeah. And that's what I want to do. I'm going to be here. Yeah. I'm going to buy them. And I'll send people right up here to the store. I know. They'll buy that and they'll buy some more stuff. That's right. Whatever you need. We just going to do it because that's what needs to happen. That's what we should be doing on these platforms. And what size scale are you going up to? You got the big boy size. My brother, he bought a 7X 8X. He ain't got no 7X 8X. Let's get it. Let's get it. I didn't know where to find that yet. Now, right now I'm probably going up to... Well, right now I'm only up to 2X. Okay. I might add 3X too. I think I've seen some 3X's in the place where I'll be shopping. So I might add 3X too. So yeah. Okay, cool. That's cool. I got to get some extra smile too. Yeah. For the ladies. Yeah. Got you. Now, what else? You going to try to do some shoes? I can help you with that too. One step at a time. I ain't talking about shoes. We can get them shoes. Because I've been seeing everybody that's trying to do shoes. They always do the shoes that just look like Jordan Ones or another variation of forces. If I do some shoes up, it would be nothing like that. I don't want a variation of somebody else's. Do some slides. That's easy. I can do some slides. Damn. I can do some slides. I love doing some slides. Some slides go hard in the summer too. All year, really. I do what you love because, number one, you have to be your model. Yeah. Yeah. So it has to be something that you love to wear that people are going to be like, man, let's fly. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So what else you got for them? Let's talk about it. Let's get into the, we didn't talk about this. Your music reviews, let's talk about that for a second. I see you've been going hard on them. And somewhere, you know, I go there. I'm in mode now. Somewhere along the line, I'm looking and listening. All of a sudden, it comes off like, Half Pain says, Dallas music, they ain't doing nothing no more. It ain't really much. We ain't got nothing going on no more. Is that true? That didn't come from the music reviews. Well, what do you come from? When I say that, I don't mean, I don't mean it as in nobody's making good music out here. Well, what do you mean? Nobody's really pushing like that. Like, I feel like everybody's just stagnant. Everybody's just sitting around. Nobody's really, I'm not going to say nobody. There's some people out there that are all working. I just feel like, man, I know some people that's coming with some joints. Like, I'll be here. I mean, yeah, it's going to be some music. No, girl, who do you want to see? I don't know if I should say it because I'd be knowing inside stuff. So I don't know if I want to say this is going to happen when, because I've already been told that. No, no, you got to say what's already out. Don't talk about what's coming, because nobody else heard that. Yeah, I can't tell you. I know some coming, but I can't really just say. I just keep it like that. But we don't know. We don't know what it's going to do. Exactly. Because you never know. Do these people really make money in music? Come on, pick up your mic. It depends on what you call money. I mean, because you hear the stories. I hear I have guys that really go hard in this music and they really make like, I got a guy, shout out LD 300 who make his living and spend and pay his bills off for what he, his music. And I don't see many people doing that like he does on the level that he does. He's tangible or hand to hand, or he creates something and people support him and he makes sure to make that contact with the individuals that he deal with. And so, but the other people, and I asked him, why do you do it that way? And I remember him saying that for one, for a million streams, it was like $4,000. He was like, I can make that just hustling with people. You know, go and give them music. Don't do that hand to hand hustling no more. They just chunk it out to the internet and hope it do something. If it don't do nothing, then they own to the next. They'll be trying to put something else out. Nobody ever, nobody really hustles their music no more. But that's the generation that we're in. That's the problem. That's the problem. That's why everybody, that's why it seemed like everybody just so stagnant right now. So do you feel like it's just in Dallas, or do you think this is something that's kind of global? I mean, it's happening in every city, but I can only speak for Dallas because this is where I'm at. Dallas Fort Worth is doing it for real, for real. Is that what you're saying? That's what I see. I don't see everything that's going on in other cities like that. But in the generation that we're in, is there a smarter way to hustle without being, you know, so hand to hand and still, you know, getting your merch out there still doing what you need to do to make your money? You can do it. You can do it on the internet also, but it's, I don't know, it's so wishy-washy to the point where... Yeah, I paint the formulas. You've already given, it's the formula. I'm not going to say nothing. The formula is, you've created a formula to where it works, to where you make people, to where they come through you for your sources on the data stream, you know, to get their music out there they want to go through half-paint or say cheese. To get recognized. Yeah, but I always say a person who really willing to get it out the mud should be willing to create that format for themselves. Do you agree with that? Absolutely. So, I mean... That's hard work though. That's hard work. Niggas don't do hard work. And you got to be willing to be naked for a minute. Yeah. You know what I mean by that? I know exactly what you mean. I mean, you're going to look real funny with about three subscribers and about 10 views. And I think people's pride won't let them do that. What do you think? Absolutely not. I agree 100%. So they'd rather go through say cheese or half-paint or who else? Cam. Cam Capone. It's a lot of people they doing this with in all the major cities. Yeah. I'm being, this is what they do. But they'll bug the crap out of you too. They'll keep email and you keep, you know, trying to put new music in whatever. They're trying to get noticed through you. Yeah. Instead of... But that's the best way to do it. I don't like when people just try to come to me and try to use my platform once and then when it don't work out they don't want to try it no more. It's like you got to be consistent. I got a fan base over here on my shit that I'm uploading multiple people a day just because I uploaded yours once don't mean everybody going to notice it. But if they see you for five times then they might finally catch on. Do you have a lot of people who come to you all the time and just consistently? That's the good part. That's the great part. And can you see them getting better in their music? Yes. I see the progress. For sure. Man, I got what's-his-name Neymar, Big X to plug. Yeah, he was on your platform. What do you think about him? Super tough. He's the first artist that I can say, like, he's the artist that I use right now is the pride of my music reviews. This is the artist that I use. I'm like, this is what my music reviews can get you. And he'll tell you that. He'll tell you 100% his buzz came from my music reviews. So I can sit there and tell everybody this is what my music reviews can do for you if you're really that guy. How many times did he have to come to you before he got that buzz? It wasn't just that one time? He won the first time. The first time he tried, he won. But it wasn't until after he actually shot the video for the song when he put it out, then he started buzzing. And then he still comes to my music reviews and I'll be telling him he disqualified. You win too much. You disqualified. You can't come here no more. You over-qualify for this now. But he still comes just on music. But if I was a musician, I think it would motivate me, like, I'm going to knock him off his throne. I'm going to show you, you know, type of thing. It's a lot of people that still come and try to do what he's doing. So anybody else that sticks out like him? Anybody. Anybody come close? My music reviews? Smoothie. That's my boy right there. He was just here. He was just here. He just got signed. Yeah. I'd love to see that. Yeah. Smoothie. I'm not going to say he got his buzz from my music reviews, but a lot of people did hear from him from my music reviews. Do your music reviews. Yeah, for sure. Don't, man. I didn't even know. See, I'm so out of touch. I'll just be going about what I hear. And I'm not even at just in touch with the streets like that. But my son, my son Trey, he showed me biggest plug. He showed me. Now, Smoothie, I just, I'm from East Texas. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I need to come on through. Yeah. We got this thing, man. Any female stand out to you? Because I hear in all of these guys. Oh, here we go. This the part where my... Man, I want to hear about a female now. Come on. Man, it's a female that I won twice on my reviews now named Honey Gold. She's coming Wednesday. She's so hard. She is coming Wednesday. Honey Gold. We own it. We own it over here. Y'all on your job. Y'all on your job. Yeah. She's super tough. For real? Super tough. Wow. What sticks out about her? Man, she makes industry level music. Literally. Like I was in the car with my partners and I was playing her music. And then I turned her music off and play some SZA, some her or something. And they think I'm still playing her music. Oh, wow. I'm like, okay. That means she's in the right pocket. Exactly. And they couldn't even tell the switch. So who's she signed to? Do you know? She's not signed to nobody. She's got a management team. She's got a team around her. But she's not signed to nobody. Yeah, they called me. That's how I found out about it. Shout out to Active. Yeah. Yeah. That's dope, man. So when these people come on and they show their music and they're getting the buzz and so forth, do you like try to point them in the right directions like, hey, you go over here. You can get signed over here. You can do this. Look into that. Do you help them along? I never suggest nobody to go signed to nobody because if it don't go right, I don't want that to be my fault. But once people win on our music reviews and we do had a video shoot, we always chop game in. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Why don't you just sign them yourself? Well, here we go. I'm glad you said that. This is where I come in. Let me come in now. This is where I gotta come in. Let me fix this up. Can I fix this up? Let me fix this up. And I wait on her because she might have some input. I don't know. Because she's well-known on this show. You know what I'm saying? People know she here. Well-known on the show. So, yeah. But we've been, man, I've been enjoying this, man. It's actually fun as hell. I never thought I'd be just consistently doing this. It's beginning to be a thing that's okay. Everybody know about us. And that was crazy. I'm in the store. People want to take pictures. So I know that's great. Like, can I take a picture? I'm like, really? N***a, you trippin'. That's when I knew that I was doing some work that people started taking pictures with me. It's kind of weird. My son took a picture of that. That n***a couldn't believe it. He's like, damn. I still got on this show myself. Y'all been having some good-ass guests up here. I ain't seen Faiza. I love this show. Faiza loved it here, man. He loved it here. Like, you know, God can tell you the bless us have. I don't think people really understand, man. It's just when you give favor, man, you never know what could happen. I got people coming that you won't even believe. I could tell you something blow your mind, man. It ain't just a Dallas thing. This is a global thing, man, where it could be anybody sitting in that seat. It's just because, I don't know, they see it and they like it. It's the quality of it. That's what they like. It's the quality of it. That's what drew me to it the first time I seen it. What, me? Like the dude back there was like, what's up, check it, check it. I mean, the quality comes from you, though. You know what you're doing. Thank you. It's the quality of the show. Man, we trying, man. It feels professional. It is professional. Yeah. But people, you know, like I said, we still have our issues and that come with it, too. The good, the bad, and the ugly, you're going to get all of that. But then at the end of the day, you still got to just permeate that with love, man. You can't even let none of that stuff detour you to the left or to the right. And I think a lot of time people be trying to, man, trick you out your position. I tell people that all the time, just keep working, keep working. If you keep working, that'll worry the hell out somebody. Yeah. Even on the job, if you just show up, oh my God, that'll mess somebody up. That's most of the job. You can't get niggas to just show up on the job. Yeah. Am I right? Go ask somebody to do something. They'll be like, yeah, I'll be up there, but I got to call in the day. I got to go do it. This is what people do. You can't depend on them, man. So when you think about this, this whole platform and what we do and shout out to you, because you've been consistent as hell. Being consistent is important. Very important. Right? The most important. Yeah. So how often do you revamp your brand? Like I see you saying, now I change this from that to this. How often do you try to change things up? Really every year. Every year. That's what I thought too. Every year I change something. Like my intro, I always change like, because my image changed. Yeah. If you look back on my intro, you'll see my hair getting longer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now my hair braided up on my video intro. I just change that up all the time. That's dope, man. But how hard is it to come up with new ideas for, you know, because sometimes you don't want a subtle change, you want a drastic change so people can notice the difference. You know how hard is it to come up with the ideas? It's always been a drastic change. It's never, it's not that hard. Sometimes the ideas just come to me and I got a guy that's so cold with the graphics that he can make it anything that I want, whatever I want, he can make it happen. So whatever I got in my mind, he can make it happen. Who is he? His name is Dwight Kerr, Normal Network. Wow. Dwight Kerr, Normal Network. Normal Network is his business. Dwight Mathis is his name. Wow. Shout out, man. So getting back to the paperwork deal. I had Carl Crawford on here and I asked that question about the paperwork. And it was funny to me because I told you this earlier. It's like, what happened to him? He kind of throwed it your way. Like once him and Megan, that thing then worked, it kind of pushed him toward Erica to try it again, you know, and then kind of the, you know, it's just like things change, it's kind of transpired over into the Erica thing with him and it's been successful for him. Do you feel like you should have gotten paperwork on Erica or either, I wouldn't say yellow because you always tell me that was your friend and that's different because y'all kind of started up together. But do you feel like now if you could go back and change it, you would have asked about the paper? Hell yes. What? I wish I, like Carl is still getting paid off everything Megan does. I know. So if I was still getting the percentage, if I, if I was getting a percentage off anything that Erica ever did, if I was getting a percentage off what she had going on right now, that would be beautiful. But be beautiful. So beautiful. So did you even think to say, hey man, let's, we may need to draw some paperwork up. Nope. Never even thought about it. Why? I was not, I don't know that never were, my heart was there, I just wanted to help. Yeah. Them, that shit dead though. Yeah. Them days are over. You're not doing that no more. I'm not doing that no more. Why do you feel like, do you feel like now you got to do it the right way? Because the people that I helped never reach back and help me. Never reach back. Never. Never. Ever. Ever. You got to realize, man, like Kanye, you know, he's a billionaire now and a heavy billionaire. And the one thing I love about him is that he, Dame Dash, he pulled a move I think on Jay, when he went back and started hanging out with Dame and doing the stuff. You know what I mean? And him and Jay was doing that thing for a second and it looked like he was over there with Jay. But then after the, when his cup started to run over, he remembered, he remembered Dame. I'm serious, I'm being real, I've seen that. I'm like, dang, I like that. Even Benny Segal. He remember Benny Segal. Yeah. That's love, man. And you don't really, that's rare. Yeah. People so selfish. You know what I mean? That's very rare. So hopefully a nigga ain't got to get $6 billion to do it. To do it. Tell me about it. Tell me about it. But so when you, so you say you wish you would have signed Erica, is it anymore? I wish I would have made sure the paperwork was right. And have you presented paperwork now and people say, you know, I don't know. I'm going to do it. I ain't doing it. Or have you had those issues? Yeah. I had those issues. I don't have, I lost a couple of artists because they didn't want to sign paperwork with me and it is what it is. So why wouldn't the artist want to, especially if you can give them what they need? Why wouldn't they want to sign with you? That's something you got to ask the artist. Correct. And you got to move on. Listen, man. I got to move on. You got to move on. And that's what you find out who really down and who not because you're not for to use me. I told you last time you was here, I told you to get that paperwork, right? You remember I said that? Yep. I said, man, I said don't call a thing. I was like, man, you got to get these niggas a paperwork. That's my paperwork queen right there. You see how she do you when you come in? That's what we do. We're going to sign it. It don't have to be an envelope. Yeah. But you're going to sign something to say me and you in agreement or we not in agreement or we got something going when we got something going. But what I want to know from an artist standpoint, artists come to you and it's considering signing. What can you offer an artist? Well, obviously free videos. Free videos. Everything. My platform, my fan base, I tend to put a lot of eyes on people. People may not notice it at the time, but I do. I put a lot of eyes on people, even if a lot of times it be people that that won't even say nothing or acknowledge that they know who you are until you see them or until you leave me. And but they are they watching the whole time. These people be watching. So you signing them to have them to give them exposure to get to that next level or you can take them to that next, you know, because from what you're saying, that's what I was doing at first. Right. So what are you doing now? Now I'm signing you giving you the exposure and you will stick with me till we get to this next level. Okay. I agree with that. Or you can go to the next level. You can sign with somebody else, but I'm still going to have some kind of cut in this or they're going to have to pay me out to get you or something like that. And I agree with that. And that's what I was saying last time because I know it's got to be a boulevard. You know, when I think about you and like I said, when I think of you, I think of say cheese. I ain't going to lie to you. That's the that's the common denominator. And I know he's done very well with the people he's dealt with. And I say very well, I don't know him from the outside looking in, but it seems that he has something to where he can generate these people and they say, yeah, we with him, you know. And then I see some blow out and be acting real throat off online. So you're going to get that part too. But that's the part like I told Carl Crawford about that's a part of being a boss. You got to have some tough skin. People are not going to like you. Everybody don't like the boss or nothing. That ain't something they just be like, oh, yeah, I love it. No, we're going to talk about that. And that'd be the discouraging part because like when your when your heart so pure and your intentions is always pure and somebody just go and go off and like try to convince everybody that it's something else or something like that. It's just like, ah, that's the part of it. Cutthroat business. I've always heard this business is a cutthroat business. And that's what you're going to, especially the music industry. That's what you're going to get. So if you're going into it with a pure heart, it's hard for you to deal with people. You damn near got to be a fuck nigga. Exactly. You got to be. You got to be. You cannot have, you got your feelings can't be involved either. You got to be able to let people walk in and out of your life, bro, easily. Definitely. So. Okay. I had one more question about the artist. So, you know, everybody's all about money nowadays. So with you saying an artist, how do they make money while they're with you? So you're talking about an exposure, but how does that bring that money? Speaking of past experiences. I never, I never actually took any money from any artist that I've ever signed. No, but how do they make money? I'm not talking about you from, from their streams and whatever they put out, they can make money however the fuck they want to. Okay. And I'm not, I'm not taking none of it. The only artist that I've ever got a cut from was LaTuzi. Okay. And that's because he was actually making enough to give me a cut that makes sense. Okay. So in the past, you weren't doing that, but now going in with your new adventures that you're doing, how, how much cut are you getting from them? It depends. Yeah. Like 20, 20, maybe 30. 30. Because. I'm doing videos. I'm doing videos. I'm paying for everything. Yeah. It's not, I'm not just a manager. I'm really playing the manager and the CEO. Yeah. So I've had those conversations with people. It might be 50%. Yeah. It might be. It might be. Listen to what I say there. It depends on the artist and how much they bring in. How much, you know, how much I'm spending. Okay. That's right. And to be honest with you, I'm saying this because people do come to you saying they need a manager, but they really looking for an investor. And so you have to be able to. A lot of artists do not understand that. They don't understand that. A manager is not supposed to spend no money on you. No. You're supposed to pay money to him. 20%. You need to do it. You need to do a YouTube video to explain it. All of that. I could do that. And people are still. That's right. Not comprehend. People would be so stupid. So frustrating. But that's good though. Like I said, you, this is a part of being a boss, a leader. Yeah. You got to go through all of the trials and tribulations of educating people on, Hey, this is who I am. And this is what I do. And this is what I provide. Other than that, don't ask me for nothing else because at the end of the day, you got to bring something to tell. I had a guy to hit me up just yesterday and say it. Yeah. I need a manager. I got $20,000. I say, what you need? This is the way this go. You know what I'm saying? We have to work together. People that did me like that too, but I don't even take those. I don't even take those type of opportunities. No, no, no. Opportunities. Why? Because, well, first of all, if you got $20,000 for a nigga to manage you, then I don't feel like you really need nobody to manage you. I feel like you ain't even trying. No, I think... I can see that because some people, some people want to just stick to their craft, though. They don't want to do anything about the business part of it, which you would have to be doing. They just want to rap, sing, do whatever. They want you to do everything else. They want to stay in the studio, just create, create, create and you do everything else. And I don't even like doing that part. Me neither. I like having... I don't even like doing the business part. I don't answer phones. I don't like... I let my artists do their own... set up their own. Like when they drop a tape or when they want to release a single, I let them do it on their own. Like under their own shit. I don't like doing none of that shit. But when you think about it, like the guy with the $20,000, I think he's more looking for a consultant, somebody to say, which way do I go with my finances as I generate them? You know what I mean? Like how... You know, I'm trying to understand what makes sense to spend on what. Right. Because you would know that better than... Because you've been trying so long. This is just being real. Right. To make sure that you look out for people. And you've looked out for people. You've learned so much. Exactly. You want to know the crazy thing about it, though. Most of the people... Not even most of... Damn, there are 100% of the people that's actually made it or made something out of music, didn't spend no money really doing it. Wow. But I always hear that you have to make it. You ain't never heard about Jell-A-B-Z paying for no promo for nobody or nobody... You never heard NBA Young Boy paying for no promo. He didn't have to pay for no promo because he had you. You put promo in the L out of it. You're right. But normally, that ain't normal circumstance. Everybody at Homeboy don't have no... Everybody at Homeboy no videographer this. I hear going in hard for them like that. Everybody at Homeboy can be a videographer though. Because at one point, I wasn't a videographer. They're not good. Everybody don't have a talent. I wasn't good at first. But everybody don't just grasp it like that. Being a videographer is not a talent. It's a passion. It's a fucking... It's a learned trade. I get it, but... You can get on YouTube and learn this shit. Everybody is not you. A talent. Everybody is not... Anybody could be me. Shout out to Twins. You always hear people say... Shout out to certain ones, but everybody not... You could tell a good video. You know you said it last time. You said this is different between... I don't know who you wanted to compare it to. You made it like it was these other niggas had TV dinners. And you had some gourmet meal. Yeah. You know that's because when I first got into it, I was so passionate about it that I learned it. And I'm still not the best. My video, I haven't got the best videos in the world. Shit, it's motherfuckers out here that go hard. That go hard in the motherfuckers. It's niggas coming up on their first year and they go harder than me. I give them their props all day long, but it's more to it than just going hard at it too though. But you hear a lot of musicians come in here and they say, you know, in order to be in this business, you got to spend that bread. You can't be cheap on spending that bread. They always say that. Yes. But it depends on what you spend in it on. And it depends on, it depends on, okay, so like, I say blog posts and stuff like that. A lot of people be spending money on blog posts and they'll just post music videos on blogs and shit like that. But that's not what, people pay attention to on blogs no more. A lot of times, it'd be just people doing regular life shit or some stupid shit or shit like that. That's what people pay attention to on blogs. Like, you got to spend your money right. Like, you got to be pushing the right shit out there. I'm going to go in on top off. What top-off artists are there left? There's still a lot of them, pop and run, all the different people. Who all over there now? Okay. Artists. Little Runny Mother Elf. That's my boy right there. Shout out Lil' Runny. Yeah, that boy hit me for Christmas. I didn't hear from Half Paint, but nigga, Lil' Runny. Shout out, baby. Yeah. You got Lil' Runny. You got Mike Fresh. Mike Fresh, I met him. When he coming on the show, you won't let that boy come. Boy, you are all on that, nigga. No, you the one got to invite him. Yeah, you are even Lil' Runny. I don't know. If you don't know one, you can't, it's like Clubhouse, nigga. You got to be invited in, man. Mike Fresh will come up here tomorrow if you want to. Okay. Okay, Lil' Runny, Mike Fresh. Swerve Lord. Okay. That's my artist. Wasn't that the one that posted showed up and didn't show up? Swerve didn't come. That's my artist. I take the blame for that. Push Your Man Live. That's my boy right there. Yes, sir. Push Your Man Live. Tory Lee. Tory Lee, I don't know. I don't know that. You're going to hear about it. Okay. You're going to see him, huh? He funny. See, you know what's going on Tory Lee? Yeah, he keep up with it. Got Mr. J. B. The Barber. Okay. You got Lil' Breed of Young Bees. Okay. And I think that's it. Let me make sure. Let me go down. Let me go down. Nope, we ain't got no females. So, Sierney and I, nope, that's over. Nope. Are y'all open to taking more females? Taking females? I don't want to move and can I get you to consult? Like if I called, if I was an artist and be like, man, I just want to pay you to try to look out for me in a certain way to help me build my brand. Y'all do that, right? No. What? Build your brand of money. What kind of, what you mean by building? If I got, say, a hundred bands, or fifty bands, I say I want to try to consult. I do anything for a hundred bands. I'm just giving it all the game. So, I want to consult. I don't want to sign, but I want to put my money up. I'm just giving it for your services to help me to push my brand. Oh, yeah. For sure. I think that would be dope, but there's no guarantee. No, it ain't going to be no guarantee, but it's still. There's never a guarantee. But it's still. And get that in writing because some people would be like, man, I thought you was going to do this and this and this. Yeah, exactly. Anything you do with anybody, especially where money is a concern, make sure you get it in writing. Exactly. I agree with that a hundred percent. Let me ask you about K-twine fame was on here. Mm-hmm. And yeah, I think it was a little situation or something like that. The situation? Well, hell no. Well, did he do something? You did something? I got to go back and listen. I did. Man, it was somewhere down. But you niggas don't like K-twine fame. Man, K-twine ain't never had that. Y'all never did business? Yeah. And I think it was something you need to do. Man, K-twine started out together. Y'all started out together. Like when K-twine first started doing music, I was doing all his videos. He was like one of the niggas that was like, he was probably paying me for a video like four times a month, three, four times a month type shit. Then something happened. What happened that made him stop paying you that for, come on, give it up. I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, it's something. I'm going to go back and get him. When I played on the interview, I think he said it on the interview. I get it. Do you know what I'm going to bring it up? Let me know. This is what happened. And then bam, it's going to come in. Yeah, I'll wait for the flashback. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. But I don't remember nothing happening. So, I mean, I don't remember anything about him. What? What? I'm just asking the question. The people want to know was you with him? Was you with him? No, I went with him with Drake. What? Well, he had text him. He wasn't even with him. No. So, uh, yeah, it was, it was things like that that came out of the interview. And he have a million million. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't, and I told him, I said, are these legitimate, you know, followers? And then he had told us. What did he say? He watched wrestling or something. Yeah, he didn't answer the question straightforward to say that, yes or no. He just said that it's just like if you watch wrestlers and you believe that the wrestlers are, you know, it's for real that all of this is for real. And he comes to find out that it's not, all of a sudden you stop following wrestlers. And that's what he said. So, there's an. There's an answer right there. He talked about some more people who had millions of followers who don't get a lot of engagement, which made sense a little to me. Like, okay, I get where he coming from. Some of these people that should be getting more engagement. Yeah, it goes on. It's going down. But I feel like, well, first, no, let me say this. First of all, I feel like buying fake followers views, any that is stupid, but if you gonna do it, at least do it to where it makes sense. Okay. I got it. You can't got down by a million followers, and then you got somebody else over here that's clearly doing way better than you, way higher than you, and they don't even got this, like, it don't even make sense. Well, let me ask you this. That goes for anybody. So is there a proper time to buy followers, though? Is it a proper? There's never a proper time to buy followers. Okay. Let me tell you something. You ain't fooling nobody but yourself. You Lil' Ronny, ML's label mate, per se. And I was told that if you put, Kate Twins said this, you put him in the room with Yellow Beazy, Mode 3, Lil' Ronny, he say it's gonna, when he come out with a hit, it's gonna be him. And the only one that may give him a little competition is Mode 3, only one, R.I.P. Mode 3. That's what he said. Do you agree with that? Look at them lookies. I mean, I'm just asking the questions, you know. Do you? Just do my words. I'm just asking the question that people wanna know. This is what happened on my show on a funny nigga. But look, the fact that we even talking about Kate Twins right now means that whatever he's doing is working. That's what I'm talking about. The fact that we even talking about Kate Twins right now. Whatever he's doing is working. It's working. I love it. But he won't know. So you think Lil' Ronny is an interesting character because he writes and everything else and certain people can't disclose that he write for it. But at the end of the day, we've seen the incredible movement of what he does through Iggy Azalea and Milado, you know, the stuff that he's wrote. This guy's super talented. I don't know. Sometime I'd be feeling like, Lil' Ronny should be like, whoa, universal. I'd be like, this thing is supposed to be bigger than everything that's going on. And give me a headache every day. Oh yeah, that's good. Every day he not famous. Do you think that you holding him back? Let me just say that out loud. Let's go to, you know, I'm crazy. No, but why is it that he's not there? Why? Because he's not a controversial artist and he don't care to be. Okay. He don't care, a lot of people that you see that's up there, they got, it's some kind of controversy, especially coming from this city. It was some kind of controversy around their name. They was beefing with somebody. Everybody. Or did some fool ass shit. Lil' Ronny, you've never seen that with Lil' Ronny and you never will. Okay. Never will. Even if he got beefed with somebody, you would never know until they beat up. What do you think it would be some, if you and Lil' Ronny, could y'all ever leave Dallas, move out of Dallas, Fort Worth area? Of course. When? Y'all never moved. We never moved yet. You niggas is straight hardcore Dallas, Fort Worth dudes. We ain't moved yet. Oh, you trying to say y'all might? So what city, do y'all love? Look at y'all two knitted in here. Too much going on, you can't leave. It ain't a goddamn thing going on here. Whoa, watch yourself. Remember, everything is internet ran right now, so you can be anywhere. So you can be exactly. I could be in Atlanta right now and do the same thing. That's what you think? That's the place that is. I'm definitely thinking about moving to Atlanta. And that was nice. What is it about Atlanta? What is it about Atlanta that you love more in Texas? It's just more emotion out there. It's just more, especially for a rapper, it's more emotion out there. But I heard that in Atlanta, people, they click up together. What do you mean by that? I heard there's like, like to go in is like, you have to be with this click or that click. That's what I heard about Atlanta. Oh, you mean for the music though? Yes. Well, you don't have to click with nobody when you establish brand. Exactly. That's why I already know you. I could go to any state in the United States. I could humbly say that I can go to any state. Talk your talk. In the USA. And I'm still gonna be half pain films. I can make, I can make a living in any state in the USA for show. I know this. I believe that too. I know you, I know. Cause I was down at a Tony's place, I believe it was down at a, what's that? Shout out to Exclusive. He got a clothing store called Exclusive down in Atlanta downtown. And when I walked in that thing, it said, boom, it's a half pain film, bitch. I said, yeah, that's my boy right there. And so I know that it's going down. Just like that all over the place. Everywhere. I'm me wherever I go for show. And I like that. I love it. The fact that you established like that. So you'll come back and do the show if you live in Atlanta. Absolutely. I fly here just for it. That's what I'm talking about. That's what everybody else do. Shout out to Boss Talk 101. One nigga flying in. Get on here. I love to see it. So recently he was online with, who again? Oh, here we go. Cause I'm very curious about that situation. When you was online. How is it possible for you to have this many fault? Are you not monetized? She heard that. This is what went down. Why? How? You two blogging me a long time ago. When I first made my YouTube. Okay, let me explain it. Here we go. When I first made my YouTube and I got eligible for monetization, Google Adsense. That's right. That's correct. You monetized it. I figured out how it worked when people click the ads. That's where you get the most money from. Exactly. So me being a dumbass, I figured this out soon as it was monetized. Being too smart. But not being smart enough. I'm clicking the ads myself repeatedly. Trying to run up the bag. Then folks cut me off. And hella gave it back. So you were doing it from your own emails? What? You don't know. Create some on-emails. I'm on my YouTube page. It's been a video. When the commercial come up before the video, I'm clicking it. Yeah, what year was that? 2012. Wow. So I would think that there would be enough time that has passed that they would say, okay, we can revisit this and you can get monetized now. Have you ever tried to go back in? I've tried multiple times. And I've had plenty of people. I've talked to people from YouTube and they just told me, you gotta make a new page. And I tried to make a new page and then I realized I got 500. This is when I had 500,000 subscribers already. Nobody wants to be, I think I ran up like 1200, 2000 subscribers on my new page in the first day. Nope, nobody wants to be on the page with 2000 subscribers. They come and they're paying me to be on this page with 500,000. So I had to take it for what it was. But even though I'm not monetized, even though I still do uploads and shit like that. So I feel like I'm making more money than your average person at a monetized time. I think so as well. Just do what I love, because it's a platform. It's basically you're pretty much uploading and charging people for doing certain things for different individuals. It's a business. And that's dope. And a lot of the things that people would expect me to get paid for, I wouldn't have been getting paid for anyways, because it's copyrighted music. Yeah, yeah. So all that money will be going to the artist anyways. It would demonetize. I don't know about that. Some people that's doing it, that they're not giving it to the artist. I'm pretty damn sure. Well, yeah, well, yeah, of course. Well, it wouldn't be going to me for sure. I get it. Anything that's copyrighted would be demonetized immediately. So I wouldn't be getting paid for this shit. So do you do these, because I know you do it on YouTube, but do you also do it like Facebook and all these other platforms to get paid? You talking about like reviews and stuff like that? Do you do anything on that job? I do reviews when I go live on YouTube. I'll be live on Facebook. So do you ever try to get paid on Facebook? Set it up where you can get paid? Monetizing Facebook. It's a game. It's a way that you can. I've been working on that, but you gotta have like your artist page or whatever, like your company page, and it take like so many different... It's a lot of requirements. Yeah, exactly. It's a lot of requirements before you can even get paid. So I've been building that up, but it took a lot of time. I know you have a huge following. So I wasn't sure if you already had all of that over there. No, because I was never using it. I didn't know. I didn't know I was gonna ever want to use it. So I wasn't really pushing it for the past three, four years. Do you think of... Faizan said y'all bull crap and y'all ain't getting no damn money. Faizan was on here the other week. He said country Wayne. I asked him about the... What did I ask him about the... Country Wayne. He said that had made millions on it. Millions on just his skits and his comedy and all that. And he was like, no, man, I get residuals. So it was a back and forth thing on that side. Because being on social media, they can't get residuals. But they do get exposure and they do get money from all these different platforms. People like country Wayne, they get paid from Facebook. Of course they do. But do they get paid residuals off of... Years from now they won't get residuals. Not like the old movie guys, like Ice Cube and all these people. Or musicians. He's like, I'm trying to think of... They're stuff not... It's monetized, so... Of course it's monetized. As long as they're still getting viewed, they're still getting paid. That makes sense. What he's saying, it is a... So just a crazy thing when you feel like comedy, music, all these things have hit streaming and social media platforms and you have to find a way to monetize. I love what you're doing with the clothes now because that's something that you should have been doing consistently the whole time. It should have never stopped. You should have little watches and little necklaces now, nigga floating around holidays. Anytime Valentine Day comes, it's a little hard with halftime feel on that whole. You know what I'm talking about? But that's the way it goes. You build as you go and so many times you gotta start supplying your people when it comes down to, hey man, it's a certain holiday. All of this stuff matters. You know, being a business lady, during the holidays, you have to switch up the format of what you're doing. And all that stuff is marketing and just being able to supply to your customer base. Right? And what's next for your brand? I'm not really sure right now. I actually was having a long think to myself as I was driving over here trying to figure out what's next for me. I don't know right now. Yeah, because you know how us entrepreneurs are is like as soon as you drop that or you already started thinking about, okay, what next after this? Can you have to always keep this relevant? Because like for me, I'm like, I don't want everybody seeing the same thing. As much as we have different people come on, you have to switch it up to make it brand new. It always comes to me though. I always figure it out. It always comes to me like when I started doing music reviews, it just came to me. I didn't sit around and bust my brain thinking about it. It just came to me. I was like, okay, this is what I'm gonna try this out. You know what you should do? I just thought about it. Here we go. You need to do reviews on some of these movies that've been coming out. I'm not talking about big movies because now we've been having a lot of people coming in like making their own movies, premiering them. You need to be reviewing those type of movies. The hard part about that is if it's like a lot of times you can't like... You can't view it. View it. You can't view it at the same time as you, you know what I'm saying? You can't play a full movie through on YouTube because it'll get taken down. You can't do like bits and pieces like the, what should I say it? The best parts of it? You gotta be so long. You stand a chance of getting even mess with about that if a person don't want you doing it. Yeah. So then that'll be taking money out they pocket because you said they could just watch my video and watch the movie with me instead of paying them. Yeah, it takes a lot of time. What about the bloggers and the interviewers and the way that it looked like Dallas is ripping through with all these different people getting up, saying this and saying that. It looked like, I mean, they're getting very popular too. It's a little bunch of them. Well, you talking about bloggers? Yeah, bloggers. What do you think about that in the Dallas area? Because you can have a look too. It's a lot of everything in Dallas 4. Yeah. It's a lot of... Dallas 4 worth got it. I feel like everybody see, a lot of people see it working for other people so they just, a lot of people just start doing it and eventually those people will fall off but they kind of water it down at the same time. But I feel like actually the blogs and people like y'all are keeping the DFW alive right now. Yeah. Because I've heard a lot of people come in and say that out of all the different cities Dallas have the biggest and the best bloggers. Definitely. The most. The most. The most. Everybody say that. That's crazy. That's real crazy. I didn't get into this because of nobody. Because of that. Hell no, I come in doing it different because I knew I didn't know what I was just coming through this time. Like I don't even consider y'all a blog. I'm gonna show you how to get down with the interview world. That's all I was thinking in my mind. I'm gonna talk to every nigga around and bring them in the store and they gonna know about what we're doing over here and that's what's going down. Yeah. Yeah. It's working out. It's working out real well. So what you got? You ready to give it to it? Oh man, we got something special for you today, baby. Yes, sir. We here at Ball of Stock, which I'm gonna present it over there again too. Okay. Would love to present you LaRon Perkins. That's me. Half Pine Films. That's me too. It says in recognition for your many years of amazing videography. Amazing. Okay. Using your developmental skills to build and enhance your artist in the music industry. Yes. Man, it's just a token of our appreciation man for basically, you know, we want to give roses out while we're able to. Why are you here? Why I'm here? Before you move to Atlanta, nigga, we want to try to do it now. You know what I'm talking about? I love it. I love it. There it is right there. See that? That's good. That's good game. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I love to see it. Hey man, thank you so much, man. Hey man, you always a blessing, man. Thank you for always coming through and when we call you, it ain't no hard thing to get to you, man. You've been very open on to Boss Talk 101. And always will be. Man, that's what I'm saying. We gonna be around, man, getting down. So thank you so much, brother. We appreciate you, man. Yes, I appreciate y'all. We love you. Love y'all too. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. Okay, Mr. Perkins. That me. Okay. Boss Talk would love to present you, Mr. Laurent Perkins, half-bind films in recognition for your many years of an amazing videography, using your developmental skills to build and enhance young artists in the music industry. Yes. Thank you very much. I love to see it. I feel like I got a Grammy. It's my Grammy. There it is. Hey, we giving out Rose Watt in here, bro. Hey man, this guy here, he's done everything you could do with the videography here in the Dallas market, man. Music reviews. Music reviews. You niggas know what he do. If y'all want to get on, you know where to go.