 I called them and I said I don't want to be on the label anymore and then they said you can't do that. The label probably already invested some money in you first and foremost so walking away like them letting you out of the contract is gonna be hard. Artists if you want to figure out how to get out of your deal or at least know when to get out of this deal I think this clip from two chains is gonna give you some perspective and then we're just gonna let you know you know what we know from our side of the industry working with a lot of artists and navigating these deals. Check this out right here two chains is talking about when he went to Ludacris being signed to another artist which we already did a clip about that recently and then ask him yo bro I need to get out of this thing. I woke up and I said I called them I said I don't want to be on the label anymore and then they said you can't do that. Like you can't just like that there's no you can't no two-way this is a straight up but you know you just can't get off a label like that. Alright so he's about to go into this rant basically saying yo they thought I was gonna sign with Cash Money so Ludacris having DTP disturbing the piece was kind of looking at it competitively like you're not about to go like take my market share and like to another label space. Two chains was like nah I just want to be do my own thing I've observed Lil Wayne's team and what you got going on and I kind of see him peep the game of how I need to build my own thing great right bigger point yo I want to get in my deal now you can't do that he was like wait what of course you can't just get out the damn deal bro we got a deal I'm depending on the money that I'm expecting from you or the performance that I was looking forward to you creating for my company as a whole so how the hell can you get out the deal now one there's some petty ass situations where people are just gonna hold somebody just to hold them and they give them zero way to get out the deal all right or they're like all right bro give me 20 million dollars and I'll let you out and it's like nigga I ain't never made 20,000 we're like what are you talking about how is that possible right so they'll make the bar unbelievably high so you can't get out the deal and basically you know shit on your face but in many other situations there's a real worry that you can work this out I'm gonna let two chains talk on his way how things worked out there we're gonna give you guys you know some other things we've seen give me a hundred thousand right now but they didn't know I had the money right so I was like man I don't get this fucking shoebox by the way it's my album cover the shoebox I don't get this fucking shoebox right now because really I had like a hundred and like 11,000 but I was willing to like to pay right to get out you know but I'm not like even I'm smart enough but I'm not even wrestling enough to know that even if that was the way to do I couldn't just bring them a box of money just be out my deal like anytime I just wanted to be out of it and just like by them saying a hundred like nigga that like and like you know I'm saying like I just was my attitude at the time I wanted to just be on my own I had a team I had people that I felt like believed in me not to say that they didn't but I just man I've always always always always all right so they say yo bro give me a hundred thousand dollars and you know chains already had a hundred thousand dollars that was mostly his money at the time but he had it so expect to have to give up some type of money period labor probably already invested some money and you first and foremost so walking away like thrill like them letting you out of the contract is gonna be hard but it's not just that two chains goes on to talk about he and I'm having to give points to his next couple of albums right points that's basically like an equity share or a profit share of sorts right the people who really get deep in the legalese in this industry y'all could specify in the comments but they you're giving points towards a project means you're gonna be able to you know get some of the percentage right whatever those points are right so you can think of it almost like almost like shares that's for its next few projects so yeah one you're gone you have to pay a deposit to get out and then two you got to keep paying me with your future work because you're gonna keep you're gonna go out there in a marketplace I'm you're leaving so you can go do it on your own I still need that because if you grow I did put some investment into you that was counting on you to grow and reap from that growth why the hell am I gonna put money in you and then not get any of the upside and that's most of these people's arguments when our artists try to get out of deal early or because they're like yo man I'm popping now and you know like I'm the one who created all this and it's like oh yeah people love you because you are you however I made you look like you because I dressed your ass up all right I made you sound like you because I added some high I connect you with some better producers you know I mean you got the talent great that's why I got you on this team or why I like wanted to invest in you not got you understand I wanted to invest in you that is a fact so for a large part they are coming to and are attracted to you but let's not act like I didn't put any investment in I just want to be appreciated for that part yeah and even in that point it's like I also might be the reason that you were seeing at the scales you were seeing that started launching you to the point to where you felt like this right right like I kind of laid that foundation so I mean I do like when labels have the buyout clause like I've seen it in different ways where I like you mentioned the point system I've seen a way where they'll kind of calculate like what they expected the future value of it to be and if you can pay that you know I'm saying so I've seen a couple different ways and I do think a buyout clause is very fair hey if you're enjoying this clip let's take a quick second and be real with each other we both know that most people don't want to put the sauce out there however we're trying to get out as much of it for free and to do that we need to have as many subscribers so we can be an attractive platform where people want to come and get a game so if you want more content like this if you want to support the no labels necessary movement all you have to do is subscribe right now if you really want to pay me you can get out because all those things you said yeah that's something you could think of ahead of time right because you want that creates an easy way for you to get out you can now plan for it you know what it looks like to get out before you even get in and now you just got to execute versus now I gotta try to work some shit out and we might be in a bad blood space or somebody can have an opportunity to be petty so if you have the the the you know the pool the leverage to do a buyout clause ahead of time go ahead and shoot that shot for real and there are a lot of people who would go for something like that and of course then you're gonna have to negotiate what that buyout clause looks like that's another story but all these things can be accounted for ahead of time and I think what's so important about this story is it was an artist signing an artist somebody people respect as an artist all right signing another artist and then that artist still had the exact same type of issues with that artist as artists have with labels something's coming here it's just the business of the music how that shit adds up is hard for artists to be satisfied with it because the business it's a hard business to profit from so it creates hard lines within contracts yeah but I have this I have this theory man I personally think any artist should be weary of signing to any artist that was popping into 90s and 2000s because they were living a different music industry experience and they were they were brought up in that music industry experience you know what I'm saying yeah like I it doesn't surprise me that Ludacris is a product of that thinking because that's how the executive was moving when he was a young rising artist you know what I'm saying so that's just how the business go yeah exactly and it's like well that did it to me you know it worked out so you know I didn't think it was bad to do it you know two chains in a way is representative of I mean he's an older generation now but at the time he was representative of newer generation of artists coming in right and so that whole dot com of older generation artists bringing up new generation artists under the system that they were made for while the new generation artists seemed like no there's a new like approach kind of coming that I can take advantage of and I don't really want to do that and it's like I don't think either side is really right or wrong you know I guess I guess I guess if you were trained in the finesse and you still carry the ways of finesse I guess there is some wrong in that but I at least understand it you know what I'm saying um but yeah but that's what I think any artist that was popping in 2000 in the 90s man don't sign them yeah I can see that I can see that you know but you know then signing to new artists are they really ready you know what I mean so experience these connections yeah if possible don't sign to an artist there's some rare situations I would rather say it's a rare situation where it might work out but both situations don't sign to an artist yeah that's my thoughts for real that is wild bro they're gonna violate you or they don't know what to do with you that's a crazy hey it's a crazy set of choices bro because record label record deals are already hard enough in themselves yeah you add that extra business on top of that shit of an artist having to do that like I don't I don't know how to run a record label well I could know how to run a record label but also I'm trying to be successful as an artist those are two things that are very difficult to manage and now I want to throw somebody else on my plate nah fuck that fuck that so that's another quick clip we would love to know you guys thoughts on this clip and whether or not y'all want to see us do some more quick clips like this other than that