 What's up chat, what's up YouTube? What's up to everybody out there that's listening, SoundCloud, what's up to you guys? Hit the like button, comment. This is week, that's not week. This is episode 59. 59, big 59s was a huge week in Madden. Now if you're not watching this live and you're wondering how do I get the type in the chat, man, twitch.tv slash dub dot. You too can be here talking about the MCS, talking about Madden, talking about competitive Madden. You know, we're not gonna be here talking about the team in the week cars that came out which all sucked. For me, we're not gonna be talking about what abilities permanent people have. We're gonna talk about who's the best at man, who's playing the best and who we expect to win and who just won. And the biggest news of the day, chat. I'll tell you that now is that all 32 teams are done. We have no more janitors playing. Well, there's a couple janitors that made it through, you know, but you know, we have the big, the big, the big boys are getting ready to do battle. 32 people are left in the tournament. Obviously you guys know we are going to do a bracket challenge. Now the bracket is not set to the end of this week. So we don't know exactly who plays who. We're gonna look at the bracket later in the show and go over it. I'll tell you that we're gonna go over all those things later in the show. But for now, we just know that there's 32 people there. We already know who's locked in. We kind of know, obviously we know the divisions and everything, so we'll talk about that. But we will do a bracket challenge. Now, YouTube, guys listening, whatever you guys listening, bracket challenge, we're gonna develop the bracket or submit rosters. I'm working on getting some money thrown behind this thing. It was a big deal last year. I think I came out of pocket for a couple hundred dollars at least, gave away a bunch of needed shirts, all these things for people. So I wanna make this something that happens every year. So we're gonna look forward to, man, because we're gonna head a bracket and it's pretty cool to look at the bracket. Everybody fill out their own bracket. But that's what's gonna happen once we figure out the matchups next week. Now, I hope you guys did watch the match. I wanna let you, I want you guys to tell me in the chat, man, what was your favorite game that you watched? I pretty much, because there's been so much to talk about this week, there's only really one game I wanna show some plays from. But let me know what you guys think, man. The main thing I wanna talk about really as far as gameplay was deliverance. Deliverance and Joel, that was the main game we're gonna talk about in a little bit. But I wanna talk about all the guys that did win. You know, let's talk about the guys that did win. You know, let's talk about, gotta shout out BG, winning the Bears. Always good to see the streamer BG go out there and win, probably the biggest Bears fan we know was super hype, was awesome as BG, he is in the chat now. And then fancy says Phenom, Phenom, I mean, honestly, he looked really good. And Phenom's in the chat as well. Like, he looked like, it was no, nothing, he was a little hype, you know, he got a lot of adrenaline. I feel like he was like a young boy, like Christmas. Like he was like the young boy at Christmas that came downstairs before everybody was woke up. Like he was just shaking. Like, it was like full of energy, but he played really good. I mean, I couldn't play that well if I was full of that much energy. But he did look really strong, like really strong as my light goes out, but I feel like I look better. Oh, remember my light I had last week? I think we good like this. I think we good. Rating look good. We're gonna talk about 2K players and man players. We wanna talk about that in a little bit as well. But who else won? Okay, BAM won, there's been a long time for BAM scheming to get back at an event or at this level of a tournament. So he's gonna get a nice little check and try to keep running. So scheming, congratulations to him. So then we got radiant. We gonna talk about radiant. My guy really tried to help him up out as much as I could the last two weeks, picking our players, getting ready to be able to play. Shout out to my man, Rene Will, the sub man. Thank you, I appreciate you. Like I said, radiant look good. That's super dope that 2K player. What we gonna talk about that? What else do I talk about? Who else won? Okay, that was the NFC North. Phenom, BG, radiant and scheming. And the AFC North. Joke for the third time in a row as a Brown's Club Series champion. I did see Collin play. And first of all, we gotta do this, man. Collin is my guy. I don't even know if I wanna talk about Collin so I see him check into the chat. But maybe he's not subbed, the chat is sub only. Because I mean, we wanna break it down for the people that really been subbed. But this is my point. I watched Collin. Joke one, congratulations to Joke. Joke is, to me probably looked the best at the classic. Like really, I thought Joke was, I think Joke's best chance to win a tournament. Of all the tournaments he's done well in, I thought the classic, he was, you know what I'm saying? And I actually talked to him last night at the Eagles Madden tournaments, man. If you guys haven't heard about these Madden tournaments that we throw every Eagles home game. So Joke came down with talking to him and Lil Man about how sometimes chat, sometimes, actually a lot of times, shout out to X Factor with the sub. Oh, he get the one of my man Collin so he can check in. What's my point? Sometimes Madden, it's not really about being the best player because oh, we're all good. But sometimes it's about knowing the game better. Actually, a lot of the times, I can look to specific examples of tournaments where people knew the game better, you know? And just new things before anybody else. And that's kind of how Joke was early in the year with the nasty streak with Lane Johnson. So that was his best chance to really win a belt. I thought, I thought he was that much better than everybody else. But he won the Browns Club series. Shout out to Chichi Rideau. Won the Browns Club series or the Bengals Club series. So that was one of the bigger upsets, beating Crush and then beating Krill. Shout out to Chichi Rideau, also who? Browns, Raymond, Thunderball. Thunderball's another person. Skimbo said last week on his show that he was tough. Man, Thunderball, as much as I mean, he's a little goofy looking. You know, he's a little, he's a little bit awkward looking, but he looked strong. Like as far as people that look good, he, I mean, as far as not turning the ball over and really kind of being in control all the way through, Thunderball looked tough. He looked tough. Like I really have no negatives to take away from his game, really. He ran at doubles at South Thing, like or whatever that doubles north, south, north pole, shit, it looked good. He has some sneaky dots. He played really good. You know, so shout out to Thunder for winning. I know that was a big deal to Ravens Club series. That looked pretty good. The last person, that one that I, Ravens Brown Steelers deliverance. We will talk about that next while they're, but I do want to talk about the Browns because Kylan like, I expected a lot of this Kylan character because we've been hearing about this chat. Have we not been hearing about this Kylan? Like he's like the, you know, he's like the redheaded stepchild of giving them. Like nobody really, like nobody ever seen him play before. He just the sneaky been under the cut. Like, I mean, when I say under the cut, I mean he, like he's been like, like he don't live in the house. He lives in like the shed out back. Like nobody's seen him play. So I was like, damn, I was like, man, this is going to be interesting. I'm excited to see young Kylan play the game of John Madden football. Now I will tell you this. Now I don't know how this young Kylan is young. You know, that's what the craziest part to me is like, young Kylan looked older than me legitimately. So I, that's the first thing I was upset about because if we can just do our name young in front of everything, I mean, at the end of the day, like, can I not be young? Why can't I be 24 next year? I'm just going to tell people I'm 24. Like that's what's crazy. Like, as an old person, I was offended at that because I felt like my man didn't want to embrace his age. You know what I'm saying? And another thing I was upset about with young Kylan is that, I mean, geez, let's, as I now check it would be. I do, I didn't want to talk about this game. I just wanted to clown Kylan cause one, he looked old as shit, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like I can be called young dub now. That's how I feel about the situation. And I didn't want to talk about this game until I just saw a crazy pick that my man Kylan just threw. You know what I'm saying? And one thing I did comment on, man, as much as like that, Jesus, first play of the game, quality play, this one I'm going to tell y'all. Like, as much as we clown bugs, chat, as much as we clown bugs, it's a lot of motherfuckers that need to do rags. It really is. It's a lot of y'all that need to do rags, you know what I'm saying? Not only to win, but y'all really legit just need do rags. Kylan got the, and this is where I tell you, cause you know, Kylan, he's a friend of mine. You know, it's a loyal supporter. So, you know, I got him on the Twitter, you know what I'm saying? I think I do so. Yeah, young Kylan, you know what I'm saying? And I got a little mad, cause you know what I said? I said, he cat fishing a little bit. He's super cat fishing. He don't, he don't got this head of hair no more. Bro, you can't have a Twitter pic like this and then be out here like said, you know what I'm saying? You can't do that. Like bro, this is not good. This is how you get caught up. This is how the women get mad at you, bro. Like you can't do this. You can't be out here in a suit at the hotel with the, with the fresh like mini Kobe fro and then really look like this. She's going to be pissed, bro. And I don't know how you're going to talk your way out of that. It's not going to happen. So we got to update this goddamn profile picture. It needs to happen. All right. Anyway, I don't, it's really, it's really not too much to talk about the game. My man kind of came out here and literally just do the work, like just do the ball around the court. And this, I mean, this is what about passing, man. When you pass, you have opportunities to lose the game. You have opportunities to, as we got super bagged right there. I don't even know where the worst pass was that I clicked on to just make jokes. But it was probably the worst pass that he threw. I forget where it was. By the way, let's talk about the risks and rewards of passing and saying the first, I feel like you had four TDs. I feel like you had a touchdown every time you went to pass, but you just didn't know how to pass too. This is, yeah, right here. I mean, you know, I mean, it's just bad. You know, like when you scared, like, listen, for a man with a head of hair like that, you would have thought you've been through some shit before. Like if you got a head of hair like that, you would have thought you've been in every situation. Like you've seen a lot of situations. Chad, I'll tell you this right now. I've seen a lot of situations. I've seen a lot of situations. You can tell by the hair. That's what I thought about Kylin. I said, listen, this man's prepared for everything. He's been through it all. First time, he goes to this guy. Lord Jesus. You know, but like I said, essentially, and I'm not gonna kill Kylin no more because I really don't wanna kill him about how he played. I just wanted to bust his balls and say he needed to do right. Cause at the end of the day, that was like his first time up there and he was playing somebody that's been up there a lot. You know, so I'm not the first to really kill him that crazy. He did just throw a bunch of picks, but it pretty much goes back to what has happened all year is that there is zero risk in running the ball this year. None. They have completely took fumbles. Matter of fact, I'll tell you this. I will tell you this, that I have seen, and you guys can agree with this. We have seen more fumbles from the quarterback taking sacks in the pocket than we have seen from these running backs running 30 times a game. They have completely removed the risk in running the ball X amount of times. So you have somebody that goes out there and tries to air it out against a good defensive player. He has so many more risks than somebody that just hands it off, hands it off, hands it off, hands it off, hands it off. So somebody that is a runner has really no risk. They won't turn the ball over unless they're really an airhead. Like seriously, so somebody that passes, if you make a mistake, boom, that's a whole possession gone. Just like that, you know, and there's really no risk to running the ball and that's pretty much, that's pretty much one of the biggest things going for a runner. Like if you're a runner, you should never turn the ball over, honestly. Never turn the ball over. But that's just how I feel. I didn't want to bust kind of ball that much, but like I said, it looked like a lot of y'all need some durais, man. Ish was another one. Ish, you know, we've never seen this before. Now I want to get the Ish. Ish is my guy, like my guy. But we've never seen somebody chat. Go hat first half, no hat second half. Like that game got to him so bad, he said I had enough of this hat. Middle of the game. Just all right, I'm good, I'm out. Seen enough. It's pretty nice to be part of the Pittsburgh club series. Shit got real for Ish. See, as we see, chat come here, second quarter. Ish got the fresh dad cap, you know what I'm saying? And we fast forward to the second half. Nope, he had enough. He had enough of the cap. Now Ish got the clef going on, you know, the slight clef. It's pretty crazy, the slight clef. Nothing too much, but he got a slight clef, but it's another man that could use a durai. Now Joel, I will tell you this, man. Joel, he is like the only black man that cuts his hair with scissors. Like I swear to God, he cuts his hair with scissors. I just don't understand. Like I don't think he's ever had a real haircut. He just go up there and just take a pair of skizzers and just go after it. It's nuts. But by the way, I will tell you this, it was good to see Joel playing it again. He looks good. He looked fit, you know what I'm saying? He looks healthy, you know what I'm saying? Good to see Joel back, always full of energy. And I really thought he was one with this game. He beat the shit out of Ish, which was kind of not predictable. And the other thing about Joel is that he had a really good scheme. He really used this doubles. He was looking strong. And there's a lot of people. Bruh, I swear to God, this looked like he just cut it with scissors up here in the front. Like he just made sure that Joel was clean. I promise. But anyway, he did beat the hell out of Ish. It's a shout out to my man Ish. He fought. Joel, I don't really look at people. I feel like the swag been pretty cool since then. My man, you know what pisses me off about this game? How can nobody pass out of this shit? Like they just have no idea how to just like put like a slant in an out route or a hitch in another hitch. I was pissed off watching this guy lock down and try to pass the ball. Like I was legitimately pissed off at how brutal it was. Like just brutal. But anyway, this was a battle. So I delivered. Deliverers played defense all day. And where's the first play of this game? The first play. Here it is right here. Now I thought lockdown was gonna be tough. I thought he was gonna, I told you guys last week, this was a good club and it was a good club. Now and I thought Joel was the favorite going into this. I don't know why. Like deliverance is consistently winning this zone. But I don't think he has ever looked good in one game. And Joel gets a fumble on the first play. It is super hard to come back from that. You know what I'm saying? Like it's soup, and that's tough. Like I'm like, shit, that's kind of ass. He looks sick. Like he legit, he kind of looks sick. I'd be sick too. But all that, Joel had like the best drive of his life after this chat. Like, okay, so deliverance scores. Now I wanna go over this drive. I thought Joel had a scheme. He had the mobile quarterback. He had Austin Eckler. Yeah, he danced cause he lost. Yeah, I'm trying to tell you that. And this drive, and let me tell another thing. As we see, deliverance is running 3-3-5 odd. Now Chad, I wanna let you guys know that I wanna ask you guys this question. Cause you guys have watched the Joel dance 0-3 if you dance. You stand up dance. I'm telling you, I told do not dance. But this is what I asked you guys. So this is the 3-3-5 odd man 18's best defense, right? Have we seen any other Madden pro run this defense this year? Phenom wasn't dancing. He was kind of bobbing. No, Phenom was like kind of just, Phenom had like ADD was just, he was on Adderall or some shit. No, he wasn't dancing. He was like Mosh Pit and that shit was different. These dudes legit did little jigs. But anyway, this is my question. 3-3-5 odd, we know about 3-3-5 odd. One, one of these guys is a linebacker. Now it's like a defensive end. The other one's a nickel back. It's cover three. That's the one downside, it's cover three. No, Phenom, I don't count Phenom as dancing. But anyway, we can go over, we can go look at it. And we can watch it in debate after this. But look, it's cover three. And Joel, I thought killed at this drive. This was honestly, Joel, he's not a surgeon. He's never been a surgeon type player ever. He's a playmaker on offense. He wants to run the ball, go out there and make plays. Broken plays, he's one of the best in the world. Broken plays, running the ball, run stick, all that stuff, open field, he's one of the best. That's how he's always been. He's never been a surgical person like that. But this drive I thought was, this was probably the best drive that I've ever seen him have at a live event. And this is the play right here that I was mad. And we talked about Jay himself, right? How he ran that pitch, or he ran that little toss to Tyree Kill the Wildcat and never went back to it. Check, this was now, like I said, we know 35 odd. It is cover three. What that mean is, is that there's flat zones on both sides, there's hook curls in the middle, there is no vert hook. Now this play that he draws up, I hope he shows the play art again. But this is the best cover three beat in play, a surgical play that he put on the field. Because you have to run with this tight end route because it's a streak, he's gonna run with him and now we have a drag and we have a curl that's in the perfect coochie spot. And I just love how this 35 odd blitz works. And this absolutely killed cover three. It killed it. And I don't think Joel runs that setup again the rest of the game. I really don't think he runs this again. That play killed it. Honestly, like I was like, okay, he got some shit. That's what I was thinking. He got some shit. Now we go back to the Austin Eckler getting busy. He's killing this three through five odd. Little draw action, doesn't kill it there. I think he cooks up another dot somewhere. This is the play he was fell in love with the whole game. And Deliverance, I will tell you this about Deliverance, he'd definitely be doing this man up people and then he definitely does get a little justy and it works for him all the time. But this is the play Joel fell in love with the whole game, post the Y, wheel round, running bag, which is like everybody's favorite dot. But he was killing him. He was killing him in his first drive off offense. And that's what the one thing about getting a fumble to the crib is you don't have to show it, you get seven points without having to show any of your offense. And that's always a great thing that we get RPO bubbled there. Yeah, he just, he ran the ball and I guess he really, a nice little run stick right there. I guess he just ran the ball. He only ran that one pass play, really that worked. But I'm telling you, I do not think he went back to that play at all. I really don't. Now you guys can tell me if I'm wrong or not, but I don't think he went back to that pass play. And I'll tell you what, if I'm Deliverance and I run this, I'm getting a better running. If I run this much, I'm getting me. If I'm going to the next level against 32 against the Goons, I'm getting me a better running back. But he once again has escape artist as well. But he played good. I mean, just real basic offense, nothing crazy. Just running tough. And another thing, I forgot about this game. Joel has never played against the run. Like he has never played run defense, ever. Cause nickel normal against strong eye. Bro, what's like, bro, what? And like we're clearly got, I mean, the number advantage over here is one, two, three, one, two, three, like four. Like it's just, it's rough right now. It's bad. Yeah, Joel hasn't played him too bad. Literally, I mean, he just hasn't played any, but now he's in a little bit better set. But I felt like he didn't, he didn't have an eye for like, where he was weak on run defense. Like he didn't have an eye for what was going to happen. And Moe was actually calling it out during the game. That was his best run defense. That was the first run defense that looked like run defense that we play against, honestly. No, but he didn't, he didn't look bad. Obviously, yeah, I'm tripping, his run defense. The worst thing you can do is go in here and get ran on, really, especially with Tony Pollard. It's one thing if you're getting trucked and jute, and then, but to get ran on by Tony Pollard, Tony Pollard will not, if you're running the ball this much, I 1,000% would suggest they better running back. I don't even know if Deliverance passed this game. This could be a run just to make sure you stay in field low range. He almost got out of field low range. Now Deliverance, man, this is tough. Does he go for this? Does he cook up a dot right here? Cause he didn't get in the field low range? I mean, just pure dots out here. Just pure lasers. Oh, this is a playmaker. This is why we always hate playmaker, man. I wanna see this play. I wanna see this play. But we got a slant, we got a corner route, we got a hitch. These guys are running right fucking in next to each other. I'm a playmaker. That's what I mean about Deliverance. He went in, but that shit don't look good. I'll tell you that. Putting these dudes out here at the same damn spot, corner route, streak, like, he gets it done, man. He gets it done. I think it was a great playmaker because if you watch it, watch how right when he playmakers, he like runs into a linebacker who's covering his curl and he gets, and he slows down. So he's almost stopped like a hitch. So he stops it and goes up. Yeah, look at that. It's like playmaker cam. Just, it's just a huge play in the game. And this, did Joe use his timeouts here? I guess I would too. And I don't second down, I wouldn't use a timeout. Actually, when the hell did he use his timeouts? And one thing about Moe, listen, Moe be on point with every single thing, you know? And using timeouts here is rough because even if Deliverance gets a field goal, the way he's playing offense with freaking Pollard, it's gonna be hard to shift for him to score a touchdown, chat, right? Running the ball? Like he's not out here dotting and Joe comes out here and calls the timeout. I guess he does call a timeout right there. Unless he called it like on defense. Yeah, he calls timeout to try to get the ball back. Bro, once you're up this possession, like he's getting the ball ahead. He's up seven and he's up a possession. Like that's rough to use those timeouts right there. But then like I said, we go back to this playmaker's shit, bomb dot. So now Joe has called all these timeouts for him. Had Joe not called timeout, it's a guaranteed field goal. But now because the clock would be so low or Deliverance wouldn't have any timeouts left. But now he pretty much, Joe pretty much gave Deliverance six timeouts against a guy that's not high powered, not high powered, Mara. And this one got lucky as hell. Super lucky. I mean, you had a run stick of a two year old right here. I guess that this guy doesn't shed as a touchdown anyway, but Jesus. I can't lie, Chad, for a bunch of runners, I done seen some shitty run stick out here. Yeah, he can't get over here. Like you gotta go click on him and move him out of it. But you got this, he got lucky. I don't know why Deliverance didn't snap. Oh, I guess he didn't flip the stretch. Look at this guy. You have to help him, help that poor fella. Oh, damn, that sure hit hard. Nevermind, that was good defense. Deliverance gonna cook up a laser. Jesus Christ, this is looking like hell. Actually, I mean, I'm not even mad at all these route combos. Oh, this play was hell in a cell. Oh, not that play, what? Oh yeah, he kicks the field ball anyway, because he drops that. Well, he had just called timeout before that fumble. Just see, he just called timeout before that fumble. And one thing, man, you have to realize who you're playing as we get here at Joel's first drive of the second half. Bro, now that these dudes are really high powered, I would even say Joel's more high powered because he has this superstar running back. You know what I'm saying, Chad? You guys agree? Yeah, he had just called timeout. He had just called timeout before that hit stick. But Joel's more high powered. Now Deliverance has gone straight to defense. Just basic, just cover three, because he wants to stop the run, which one form. But the biggest thing about it is, it's pretty much the same coverage as his three through five odd. He said, you know what? I'm done trying to, I'm just gonna stop the run. Cause that's pretty much how he gave up points is just getting ran on. So he just makes an adjustment. Said, you know, I'm gonna go to this, whether it's nickel normal, blows up the run. Great play right there. Such an underrated play, blown up the inside zone right here. Bang, getting him to a third and long. And honestly, oh, this looks like, yeah, 1-4. He goes 1-4-6. One few times, he goes 1-4-6. So I expect Blitz and 10 people at me. He just goes off the edge. Actually really good defense. I would have went match protect against this though. Like what, like against this, I would have matched protect like a hoe. Boom, he bags him. Now this is where Joel loses the game. Yeah, you're playing, you're not playing this. You know, it's fourth and 12. I don't have any play for fourth and 12 chat. Do you guys have a play for fourth and 12? I don't know what it could be. You know, just play defense. Know yourself and know your opponent. That's all, but not none of you guys are high powered. Seriously, and I wouldn't match protect here. I don't know what delivers actually bags him. Cause he like this deliverance played good defense. I like, like he really was like a step defensively. He was really tough. Honestly. No, this is he, cause he bad. He bagged what he put out there. Like he bagged this shit. Like he put like, if, if I would have gave you to play art deliverance would have played that defense. He just bad. Like if I show, then like, I love when that happens. Like if, if we show deliverance is Joel's defense, right? Or Joel's offensive play, this is the defense he would have played and it worked out perfectly. He had the bag out here and Joe had all day to throw and sending that spy was the best thing you could do there. But that was the, that was great defense. Boom, finally pops one. Finally pops a run and now it's like, damn. Now I'm telling you, Joel did not go back to that, that pass play. And we see deliverance is just in three, three, or nickel normal pretty much. It looks like nickel normal. Just, he not pinching his line. He not pinching his linebackers. He not baseline it. These dudes are out here, but he's stopping to run and we're going to, this thing can't be the play we run. Oh, there you go. He's stopping the run. Actually a really good lurk, I think. I don't know. I think Joe could hit the running back. But like this is just cover three. I think he could have hit the running back, but it looked like he wanted to go get it. But yeah, I guess he could have through it right here. Like, ain't that good of a lurk. Holy shit. And he even bumps here. This could be a touchdown. Chad, we've watched this game right here. This could be a touchdown. Hit him, boom, juke that guy. But Lawrence Taylor made a play. We get to a third and long, third and 16. One, four, 16. Hey, listen, he played down in distance football, really. Because, and this is, I'm telling you, he's calling the right play every time. What's crazy is he has blitzed this person every single time against his doubles, every time. Now this time, that's it. This time he does the opposite. I'm hiding on this guy like a scumbag. And I'm blitzing off this side. Joe blocks that guy, thinking he's blitzing. No, he blitzes off this edge. Like, he really was one step ahead in every defensive call, honestly. And that, he really was hiding. He really was hiding, getting glitchy. Now we're back to nickel normal. I mean, stretch right for 1,000 yards, please. You got a lucky dead dude didn't get blocked. Nope, now we're stretched left, motion this guy over. Just show you don't need to motion anybody. Yeah, Joe, pretty bad run defense. Like I said, it was just about that one setup he really didn't go back to, man. And Deliverance, I mean, watching this game again, this is the second time I watch this game. Dude, he really has called the right defensive play every time. Like he has called a very, very good defensive game. Seriously. It doesn't look like that, but he really has called the right defense every single play. Everybody wants to win. I just would hope Deliverance gets a, where does he make that? He makes this wild play with Steve Young in this game. I will tell you this chat, every single game that Deliverance plays is a slobber knocker. Every game he plays is a slobber knocker. I think this is the play he makes. Is it? Oh my God, this play is crazy with Steve Young. This won him the game. But I think Joel sends the spy early, but you kind of, actually there is no spy. It's just cover four. He's on the line, but like he sent that guy. I mean, guy Lee. I mean, you just got to have a spy somewhere. Brandy King isn't going to catch Steve Young. Tell you that. And that was pretty much that in the game. Shout out to my man Deliverance. Like I said, man, from the naked eye, don't look that good. It don't, but I mean, he gets it done. Now we'll tell you something about Deliverance, man. Tucking your ears in your hat is fucking sick. It's sickening. Like you got to get a smaller hat, bro. Got to get a smaller hat. Like it is not 2002 anymore, bro. Like you can, if you have to tuck your ears into your hat, check, check. This is a grown man. Like this is, they said he's a guidance counselor at a school. They call him Mr. Pinter. He's the guy and his ears are tucked in his hat. No, no, listen, I think he just has a very small head. First of all, pause. Second of all, they make hats for toddlers. How do y'all not notice this? I thought everybody would notice this. I really wanted to talk, wait to talk about this on the podcast, but I thought somebody would bring it up after he won. Bro, tucking your ears into your hat is, I listen, your ears might stay warm. You know, maybe his ears are warm, but this is worse than boot cuts. I think this is worse than boot cuts. Now you guys let me know. Tucking your ears in your hat is crazy. It is. It's nuts. Like this a big ass hat, check. Like this is a, they used a lot of claw for this fucker. Nasty award, nasty award a week is tucking in your, what you call it, your ears to your hat. Seriously, that's nuts. Oh man, we've seen a lot of people that need do rags. You know what I'm saying? We need a lot of people that need do rags, but this book's hat, if Boogs played for this Pittsburgh Knights, Boogs would wear this hat. This should be tight on Boogs. Honestly, but not for real. Tucking your, no, all the side though, he did play great, great defense. And you don't gotta do much. When you play good defense and people gamble on fourth downs and stuff like that, you don't have to play much offense, Chad. You don't have to, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, I thought tucking your ears into your hat, Chad. I don't think I have a hat that I could do that with. Like what? Like how big do you? I do have hats though, Chad. I do have hats. Now I feel like this is how your hat is supposed to fit you, right? Like a baseball player almost. Is this not how we do it nowadays? Is this not, am I not hip? I feel like it's supposed to look like it fits, right? I don't like the sticker, I hate the sticker. Explain to me when people keep the sticker. Why do people do that shit? What's the point? Oh, because it looks like it's brand new. I can't go buy a $20 hat. Like my man Ish had the dad hat from the Steelers Pro Club. The first hat they make, and he had the sticker on it. Oh, the bottom? Do I have a sticker on the bottom? Yeah, there's like, because if you buy a hat, there is like, they put like 10 stickers on this shit now. Some of them have like a sticker on this whole brim. I mean, under the brim, you don't see under the brim. I guess because I'm tall, unlike you little children, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't even like wearing this hat. This is a Nerd Street hat, right? And it's like his hat, it's like a snapback, right? And I don't like wearing it because it's like flat brim. I feel like we need a little curve now. I feel like the flat brim is dead, Chad. Am I wrong? The flat brim is like, this is the snapback too, so I can get this like deliverance of shit. I gotta put it on like the last. Is it up my ears inch? Yeah. Yeah. Tuck them fuckers in, boys. Warming up, keep them warm. Keep them Jones warm, bro. I'm doing the rest of the show like this. That's how they beat, Chad, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I have a better hat to do this with though. I feel like I have a better hat. I mean, my ears are kind of warm. Like the tip of my ear is kind of, you know, it's kind of warm. I look younger with it like this. No, it's on the second strap. Look at the ear tucking. The ear tucking is fire. Actually, you know what? Let me go check what I got. Give me two seconds. I promise you, I promise you guys, I have something that's popping way more popping than this. I have hats now, Chad. Okay, okay. Now, Chad, this is my most popping hat right here. You see the ears? Tuck. Tuck on the ears. Shout out to the wool, man. You get the ears tucked and you good, you know what I'm saying? Well, you get the ears tucked, you good. But, as I said, deliverance played good. Played great defense. Made the right defensive call every single time. I wish Joel would have went back to that one play that just killed cover three. He didn't go back to that. He didn't go back to that enough, but it was good to see Joel back, good to see him popping. Deliverance, man. We talked about underrated and overrated players. Bro, I have not seen, I don't think deliverance ever looked good, but he just wins. I mean, and he wins slobber knockers. Like, have we, like he's always in a sweat. He's always in a sweat, always. Like he is a sweatshop master. Maybe, I'm telling you, maybe it's the ears. Maybe it's the ears. If your ears stay warm, the rest of you doesn't sweat. Bro, I'm telling you, making the live event, boot cuts, tucking my, we're the tightest Jersey, we're the Evil Ken Jersey, the Truzy Jeans. Bro, what's the ultimate outfit so far? Yo, let's think about that right now. The ultimate outfit from the club series so far. What is the ultimate outfit? It's gotta be the Truzy Jeans. Truzy gotta have the Jeans. You know what I'm saying? Truzy Jeans, who's, who got the wild, AKG had Blue Sox, Ken had the Child's Jersey, the Decroft Cackies. Oh yeah, we might give Truzy the shoes. The Truzy choked, choked Yeezy's double knot. The Decroft Cackies, the Deliverance tucked in ear hat, the Evil Ken Jersey, the Know the Boys glasses. Bro, oh, AKG, nah, yeah, listen. That's when, see, nobody else noticed the Blue Sox. I noticed the Blue Sox. That's why we didn't kill the Blue Jersey, the Blue Hoodie. At first they were like, are you gonna kill the Blue Hoodie because you killed Crest because he had a Blue Hoodie under his Bengals Jersey. And I said, listen, I was gonna kill AKG but when I saw the Blue Sox, I said, man, he took it to another level. So I didn't kill him, it was a super drip. So Blue's glasses, Evil Ken Jersey, Deliverance hat, Decroft Cackies, AKG Sox, and Truzy tight-ass Yeezy's. Truzy's the only man with Yeezy's and he tied him up like he's about to go run full court. Swear to God, he's like, I'm gonna run full court, boys. You know when you tie your shoe? You know when you tie your shoe for real, you go, like to really tighten the joint up, like, tell me, listen, you guys play sports, you guys know that last little tight, tighten them joints up, double knot, and tell me, that's what he do. Oh, the Joe, no, the Joe hairline is straight scissors. It's almost sort of, put Joe B out here with the lighter to this shit, like, what the fuck? Oh, he tell, yo, Truzy, no, we talked about Collin, bro. Collin might have to come home, bro. Collin might have to come home. Joe, bro, Joe don't have bad hair, he just don't, he don't get haircuts. Like, he don't give a fuck. No, it's not really, it's nothing, like he just don't give a fuck. Now we're, all right, let's do this. I mean, dude, this shit, chat, this shit is funny, bro. Y'all can't front, that shit. Bro, this shit is funny. Like, bro, your face is too big to have a brim that big. Like, he don't get any rain with that. Like, you get no rain on you with this Joe. You don't need an umbrella. Brim cover his, brim, damn, there is shoulder to shoulder. That Joe is crazy, chat. Like, when your brim is that, like, nothing can stop you. Nothing can stop you. Yeah, the ear's tucked in his nuts, really is. I'm having trouble tucking my ears and maybe my head's a little bit bigger. My hat, like his hat goes like, that Joe is like, it's like here, chat. Them Joe's, them ears is in, in. Collin getting dreads? Collin, you getting dreads? Don't listen to Clef. Clef ain't been hiding shit for years. We've been clowning Clef about his hairline since he started streaming. What is he hiding? Collin, cut that shit off, bro. You can't go back to the mini fro. That shit is dead. Anyway, this is my, the tuck of your ears in your hat gives you superpowers. I do wanna talk about Radiant, though. Shout out to Radiant in the chat. Radiant's like, he's like a top 20 point guard in 2K. He's in the 2K league. He is on my Philadelphia Sixers gaming. If you guys don't know Radiant, all right, do any of you guys watch the 2K league and follow us aside? I enjoy it. I watched the 2K league. Now, be honest, this is what the 2K league struggles with is that gamers, listen, gamers have ADD. We do, well, let's be honest. We have ADD. And one of the things that both Madden and 2K, what they try to do is they try to cater to the sports audience. Let's get 2K players to, or let's get NBA watchers to watch the 2K league. It's a tough sell, but maybe it works. But essentially they have a league and that's what 2K league has. And when I say they struggle with ADD is, I don't wanna watch regular season 2K league. I'll be honest. I don't wanna watch regular season WR. I don't wanna watch regular season Ultimate League. I don't wanna watch regular season anything. I barely wanna watch regular season NFL. But there's only 16 games, so it matters and only six teams make a playoff from each conference. Only 12 teams in the whole league made the conference. So it kinda matters. But I do watch a lot of 2K league. Radiant is very good. He's one of the best. He's one of the top five players in the entire 2K league. So he is a top five NBA 2K. My player, control one person. He is the point guard and he won the Detroit Lions club series. So I gotta take this off. I don't know how bald people wear hats. It's so uncomfortable. The biggest comparison I can give you guys is it's like Velcro. Like the little tiny stubbles from shaving my head. Like just hold on to every little fabric of these things. And it's so uncomfortable. Like it has ruined hats for me. I cannot wear hats anymore. Yeah. But anyway. So it brings back to something that we've had to debate on. What's easier to play? What's harder to play Madden or 2K? And you know the 2K kids, they're like, oh look we told you. 2K is the best way harder to be a 2K player than Madden. Look at this blah, blah, blah. Now I'll tell you this a million times that for me Madden is a lot harder. Radiant just happened to put a lot of effort into it. And I will also tell you that the people like Rain who are top five at that game or top 50 at that game are gamers. They are good at video games. You know, they understand it. Also people that watch basketball more than likely watch football and vice versa. People that play Madden more than likely play 2K and vice versa, you know? And so my biggest point of saying this is if one of those top 20, top 52 K players, you know, really went ahead and tried really hard at Madden, they'd probably be pretty damn good at it, you know? Rival is the worst defensive player ever. Possibly regardless of how it happened. My point is that at the end of the day, elite gamers could be elite gamers. You know, that's all I feel I do. I will always tell you 2K is substantially easier than Madden, 1 million percent. Madden is a lot harder to play. And I will always go to this, I will always go to this analogy is that if my girlfriend was over here right now, we'd have more fun playing 2K because she can pass and shoot than she would be able to play Madden because it's more complicated. That's all. That's all I'm saying. But when you're that level of player and you have that much obviously stick and you're smart enough to be able to play the game, yeah, he's gonna do well, honestly. And he did well. So we'll see how far he goes. We will talk more about exactly who we're picking as the show goes on, especially next week. But one of the topics that came up this week and I believe Pony was the one who said this topic. He brought it up about Joe. Joe, I talked about he won his, his third straight Browns club series by defeating the Bald Collin, you know what I'm saying? Old Collin. Collin came, I thought Collin was gonna look like Henry. That's what I thought. Young Collin, he might look like Henry. He looked like old Collin, you know what I'm saying? So for me that was rough. So Joe won and it started a debate about who is the best player in the MCS era to not have a belt. Now there's two options. Now, we can put some honorable mentions out there. I don't know who you guys would even have as honorable mention in the MCS era without a belt. Bugs might be up there, seriously. Bugs might be honorable mention. Can we think of any other honorable mentions that have made runs blocky, honorable mention? Yes, that's a good one. Let me try to think honorable mention. I think Bugs blocky. Obviously, no, I know a problem in jokes, you assholes. You don't see it on the screen. Do you not, are you not looking at the screen? Strafing, no, for me, strafing what you're gonna call it. He may one run, but he wasn't as consistent as Bugs or Blocky, for sure. Clef been playing for two years and he really ain't been close, honestly. As much as that's my guy, I think Clef is top five player. I'll answer that every single time. He's top five player. He hasn't made, I can't even think of the furthest. I guess clubs last year, and he did pretty good to classic here. I guess little man, yeah, I honestly think little man's probably honorable mention. Now, this is my question. Yes, that is true Furious style, as we say. Problem does have three belts, and we count them like belts, let's be real. But MCS era, and when it comes down to this, first of all, I would never argue this thing. Like if my name, I would never want to be that person. You know, it's kind of like, I don't wanna say it's a, it's a backhanded, do you understand what I'm saying? It's not like it's a backhanded compliment, but it's not something you argue about. You know what I'm saying? It's not something you really puff your chest out and say, no, that's me. You know what I'm saying? That's to me, that's one problem tweeted out about it. I'm like, bro, who gives a fuck? You don't wanna be in a race to be the second best or be the race to be the best loser. Like to me, that's kind of, that was corny. That's how I felt, like what? Who cares? You know? So then it comes down to debate. So it's been four years. Well, it's been, what's it been, Chet? 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. It's been about four years, 17, 18, 19, 20. Because we're halfway done in 20 and 16 was kind of a half a year. So for me, it goes down to, it's two different questions. Who's been more consistent and who's had a better MCS? You know, Joke has lost one final. Problem has lost four finals. I honestly, I feel like, and you guys can agree with me right here, I feel like Problem has had a better MCS, but Joke has been more consistent. In the four years, he has been more consistent. Consistently final eight, consistently final four, for four years. But you know what I'm saying? But for me, at the end of the day, I feel like Problem has still had a better MCS because he's made so much money losing in those finals, you know? But without the last two years where Joke was still popping, you know what I mean? So I feel like consistent is someone joke but it's still a better MCS that's still got to be problem, you know what I'm saying? Hey, McDots, that's what happened when you're in the jungle. When you're in the jungle, it gets a little different. Dirk, Joke doesn't play no game other than Mad. So that's a stupid, that's a terrible excuse then that's problems fault. That's all the more, like, why would that be excuse? That's a dump, like bro, that's all. But anyway, like I said, I really don't have an answer. Like I said, I feel like Joke has been more consistent but Problem still has better MCS and Problem beats Joke when they play. I mean, I guess I can't think of how many times they played but I know one group stage, I believe Man 16, some groups. I believe Man 17, Man challenge, the first tournament they played in groups. Obviously the final four of the Man championship, that Skimbo won a Problem beat Joke with two quick returns. But anyway, that's just how I feel but I don't know if y'all disagree or, you know what I'm saying? I mean, ultimately, you can only do what you want, you know? As far as putting time into the game and not, I mean, to do what makes you happy, you know? I'll tell you this right now, you can't expect to not put 100% into this game and come out here and win. I feel like me, that's what happened to me. I'm not, my heart is not in this game like it should be because my heart is in more like let's build streams, let's build podcasts, let's build this videos, let's do this, let's try to host this event, let's try to do that. My heart is not in competing at Madden like it was four years ago. It's not, you know? And I feel like problems the same way. I just, my heart is not in at the same level. I mean, dude, like these guys that compete, man, even these kids that are grinding Madden, they like live for this shit. You know, no matter how good you are, how smart you are, you're not gonna half ass Madden anymore. That's dead. You're not half ass in Madden ever, you know what I'm saying? Ever. So that's one of the things, like if you try to do other stuff, you try to, it's tough to balance the act, it really is. You see these people winning. I mean, these are the people that are grinding the hell out of the game, man. But there has been a rule that they implemented this week. They tried to put a backup running back spot in mud and for some reason they couldn't do it. But they made the rule that you cannot put why receivers are running back. Now, Chad, I will ask you guys, why did they make the rule that you cannot put a half back at running back? Why? Cause I don't really, I really don't understand the reasoning. I wanna ask you guys, what do you think? What is the reasoning for that? They got bored. Like, what does that mean? Yeah, but like what talk to me about like, it really is specific. I really do feel like it is for West Coast. But for me, it's like, for me, why? Like that's my question, why? And when you really think about it, they want everyone to run. Why? Like, why? Like, I don't know. And I'm thinking now, I wish I had answers to give you guys for like, I'm supposed to have the answers, but it's like, why? Like seriously. But why do they want people to run? Do they want people to run? I'm thinking right now. They got tired of seeing the Y receiver in the backfield. I just, what does that mean? They got tired of seeing the Y receiver in the backfield. They got tired of explaining that. Like, like, yo, we have a Y receiver back here. Blah, blah, blah. And this is why we have a Y receiver. Do you think that like, essentially turns off a casual fan that wants to watch Madden? Cause if I'm a casual fan, right? I'll be real. Let's think casual fans. Oh, you running with Tyree Kill? Let me, that's pretty cool. Like, let's be, let's really think about it. You are Jimmy Joe, not the Mad, Jimmy Joe that just turned on Madden. You know the NFL, right? Or you wanna say, damn, he's running with Tyree Kill. I'm turning this shit off. Or you wanna say, he's running with Tyree Kill. Let me see if he can score. Is he fast? Like, what is more likely to happen for the viewer? To say, I wanna watch Tyree Kill run the ball or no, turn this shit off. I'd rather watch Pollard run the ball. Seriously, I wanna see, shit, I put it like this. If we were watching the Chiefs right now and Tyree Kill was the I formation running bag and they gave him the ball, we would watch this shit out of it, right? Right? I'd be like, oh, let me, I wanna watch this. What the hell he's gonna do? I just, I just, I don't know, man. I really don't, I don't have, I don't think there's any way they could say we wanna hurt West Coast. We wanna make everybody a runner. I don't think that's like an angle to take. I don't think that's it. I think in Skimbo, it really comes back. Like he said, they just don't wanna see a wide receiver in the backfield. I don't know, man. Yes, you cannot reset in much draft no more. I'm glad you came in. Let's talk about that. Fuck my topics that I took all day thinking and writing down. Fuck my topics. Let's talk about much draft. God damn it, Muku. No, for real. Yeah, they definitely got ready to read draft, which was a good thing. We talked about that a couple of weeks ago. So, I just, I honestly, I feel like, I'll tell you this right now. I don't think there's somebody that watches Madden and turns it off because of they're running too much. They're running a bunch too much. I really just don't think that happens. I just can't think of a human being sitting down and saying, I'm not gonna watch this anymore because they're running bunch, they're running, because I don't have an answer for this. Like, why would they change it? I think the whole bunch versus bunch conversation or debate, it's for people that suck at Madden. And that's what they say. Oh, it's just bunch versus bunch. I don't want to play like that. You know, it's bummy. That's all, it's like a sim thing. But I will tell you that no, no wide receiver or halfback, I do think it hurts West Coast the most. BG is in here, it hurts. BG is in here, it hurts him as well, you know? Do you think people would use, obviously everybody would use Hester running back. He is the new Dante haul, the better Dante haul. I don't think they would use the human joystick thing. It's pretty cool, but I don't think it's worth what the cap they put on it, honestly. But I really just don't think there's an answer to what people want to watch when it comes to Madden. I feel like, you know, I don't think the play style of Madden is going to turn people away. I don't think that's, I don't care if people are running the ball a thousand times. I don't care if people are passing the ball to play. I don't think there's one specific play style that's going to turn away viewers. I don't think that is. I think that the viewership is about promotion, the product, which honestly, the product has been amazing. The production, the Be Easy Guy, the broadcasters, the cameras, everything has been awesome, period. It gets better every single time. You know, I just think it gets to a point now it's about promotion, it's about marketing, it's about getting these people watching these events. And I think if they keep the same broadcast, which they will, it's going to be the same type of energy, the same type of broadcast, bigger games, and hopefully we get tons of viewerships. Because right now, I'll be honest, more people watch Good Morning Mandan or whatever the hell it's called, than watch the MCS. And honestly, Chet, it's really not close. It's really not even close right now. So for me, they got to do a better job of marketing these events because they've been running them pretty good. For someone that's a stickler on commentary on, you know, just the camera, the cameras, we talked about the Cowboys Club series, how it was all in their faces, the broadcast, the game sound was too loud, all those things. EA has done a great job at everything as far as the production is concerned. I'm not lying, people literally watch the mutt breakdowns more than they watch the MCS. And it's, I don't wanna say it's depressing, it makes sense, but for me, it's just the truth. We have to find a way to engage that market. And that's EA's job, it's not our job. Never feel like it's your job to make something better. Your job is to go out there and play mad. You don't have to be entertaining. Don't ever think that, you know? But like, it's their job, you know? And they're the, you're gonna get, whoever wins this is gonna get paid $100,000, whether there's one viewer or there's 100,000 viewers. They're gonna get paid the same. So for me, don't ever worry about that, honestly. For as with, I didn't watch anything to know about Madden. Did you, is that the, what did you watch first about Madden? I didn't watch Madden first at all. Like I played Madden. I didn't even know like Twitch was a thing. I, for me, my man can't, can't ball you up. I don't know if he's any, but he was the one that put me on like Twitch. I would sit there in a party playing Madden. He's like, yo, there's this guy, Steve Meister on, let's try to wager him. Like, what the hell? I didn't know about Twitch. I'm like, bro, yo, no, man. I'm just trying to play the game. I didn't know about none of this shit. Like for real. And Steve, but Steve was like, lightweight the man. Yeah, I didn't watch, I didn't know Farrows and Gibbs. I didn't know none of that shit. T-Roll was the man too. Yeah, I didn't watch, I didn't, bro. I didn't like Madden 16, Madden 16 was it. Madden 16 was like, was like the, that was like my first steps into Twitch and the YouTube and the, well, I guess I watched YouTube before that. And Justin, JustinTV, the only time I would watch that is when my man proof would like broadcast a game or something like that. And I don't think I ever really watched T-Roll. And it never, it never, I don't find joy in watching other people play Madden. Maybe because I'm good at it. I like watch people play Call of Duty. I like watching people play 2K. I like watching them play Apex and Fortnite cause they're just good at it. And I can appreciate how much better than they are at me at it. But I've really never watched people play Madden O.D. Unless it's like, you know, two of you good players playing each other. Yeah, that's Skimbo's theory. It's my theory too, man. Like it was some popping ass mutt dudes on YouTube and then like, cause when you were the best man player, like back then you were just a mutt guy, like top 10 in mutt. And man, 16, good players then played mutt, you know? Because there was no money on it. But once they put the money on it, good players played it. So when the good players played mutt and now they're playing the T-Rolls and the Tweezies, who else was like a big Rose Bowl that were like these big streamers, right? That people thought were just Jesus at the game. Now I knew, me, my bum ass playing mutt head to head. I know, I know because I've been around the man scene to an extent for 10 years, right? Stiff, something like that. It was people, like these people were super good, right? But I knew that I wasn't a, I'm not the best in the world cause I know these guys are out there, right? So for me, all these people playing, they were the top streamers. Once they started getting popped, I don't know if it made them like, they weren't the best anymore. Like, and I'll be real, for me, it's tough to keep doing this. If I'm not at these MCS events, I'm not, you know, one of the top 10 players in the world. It is, it is like depressing, it's not depressing, but it's demoralizing. It is, it's like, bro, do I want to keep going on with this, you know what I'm saying? Do I want to keep, am I still the best? Will people keep watching me if I'm not the best? That is one of the biggest like fears of a man streamer. Without a doubt, I understand it 1 million percent. When I didn't play in the MCS last year, I was like, bro, like, my shit is going to be devastated. Like people are not going to give a shit no more, but you have to realize that people essentially, they like watching you. Like, boy ain't good at man, it can only take you so far. It could only open the door for a couple of people, but essentially people need to have a relationship with you as a streamer. And once you learn that, it's a lot more relaxing, honestly, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, there was a lot more streamers that were popping, but like I said, sniffmeister was probably the first person that, like I said, my man Kent was like, my man Kent was like, yo, let's go wager sniffmeister, planter my gamertag and I'll wager him and we'll take 100K from him. Ha ha ha ha. No, my man Kent, balling you up is a slime ball, like a slime ball. Tell you that right now. But anyway, let's talk about these brackets and we're going to talk about the 32 people that made it compared to the 32 last year. Cause Wesley, you know, and Kiv were like, this year is, last year was so much better. Now I want to start this debate. I want to start this topic. You guys are here. I need your help, right? Well, I was going to say I had this great fucking point I was just about to say. Nah, because Wesley, you made the podcast because you made the podcast, because I would tell you Wesley is just the errand boy. He really is the errand boy. Like we have like Trey, like Taylor Gang, like you, you know, Taylor Gang is like our Wesley. We just make him do shit that nobody else want to do. I'm saying so we're like, Wesley, go complain about the brackets. They said, well, the bracket was so much better last year than it is this year. Now, like I said, okay, I want to start this by saying now there are a lot of things that bring the skill gap of this game down a lot. It does because the run is pretty good. It does because the run is powerful. It is high power period. Two, we're playing salary cap where it's harder to stop one of them super running backs because you don't, you're not going to have great players all over defense. You're not going to have two or three players that can do anything on defense. It is harder to stop the run on this mode. It is hard to stop the run on this game because the running backs or OD, the pursuit sucks, all this thing. The run is good on this game. If you couple the run being good on this game with how short the games are, okay, the run is good. The game is short. Also, what did I say earlier about the game between Colin and Joe? You have no risk running the ball. So not only is the run good, right? The game is short and you have zero risk in running the football. You will not turn the ball over running the football. So you're going to be in every game. So essentially, for me, it is a smaller skill gap but at the same time, when Wesley and Kiv and Henry and Moll, when these guys did good at the classic, we didn't talk about the bracket at the classic. That bracket was fine, right? But now when we come to this bracket and they all kind of got popped and they're all out of the tournament, now the bracket's kind of weak and the game sucks. You know what I'm saying? So for me, I want to talk about these brackets. Let's talk about them because I thought this was my squad is out. We're gonna blame the game. That's how I felt about it. You know what I'm saying? Now, we're gonna talk about this is the new bracket, right? Or this is this year's, where's my OBL set? All right, here we go. Now, this is like the shittiest thing in the world. Yeah, it's just like, okay, my squad got popped. Now, I will tell you this right now. Kiv and them, they pretty much dominated the classic, right? They, between Kiv and Henry and Moe, they were the best players at the classic, really? I thought, like I said, Joke was good. I'm trying to think classic, but I thought it was good. I thought Joke was really good. But Henry, Moe, and Kiv, they were like the best players. They dominated the classic. Now, I'll tell you this, EMB is really kicking the shit out of the club series right now, honestly. Yeah, J. Miller, people just ran, but listen, we didn't hear about the bracket. We didn't hear about the bracket, anything like that, during the classic. Now, that was all good, but I do think the game, I do think the game really tends to, the game is really, the game is shorter. It's one and done at this point. And for me, it does lend itself to a lot of, it does lend itself to a lot of upsets, you know? And then when we say upsets, like who do we think was upset by a shitter? That's why I asked you guys to check. Who do you think was upset by a shitter? That's my question to you guys. Like, honestly, Madster, okay, because Madster's not a shitter. I seriously, Clef, I'm not, see I'm not gonna call Clef, I'm not gonna call Duke as not a shitter, and Duke got spotted a free seven. I don't think he got cheated and I don't think he lost to a shitter, you know? That's how I'm feeling like, yeah, but the game is short, so you're gonna get upset. So when I look at this is like, we compare it, like what are we comparing in the brackets? You know, as we see Thunder Ball, I tell you about him, Thunder Ball looked good to me. Free to penguins, I didn't really watch any of these games. I feel like they were on the backstage and we didn't watch the Bengals. Deliverance, Deliverance is a slobber knocker expert one million percent. He gets shit done. I'm not gonna say like, it's the way the game plays. It's the way the game is shorter. And like I said, there is no risk to running the football. I just said all that, you know? It's gonna happen. You know, you have to be on your P's and Q's and you have to play 100. You have to play your best game at the right time. You know, you have to 1000% play your best game at the right time. You know, there is no second chance. There is no turning around the game is short. And when you're passing the ball, and you turn the ball over like we saw Colin, like bro, you're not gonna win games, period. Thumbs, I mean, I don't think Thumbs upset him. I don't think Thumbs got lucky. I think he just, he beat the first guy. I forget who the first guy was. And then master, we watched that game on the podcast. Like Stevie J, Stevie J, because you guys know his name is not, is not upset AKG. I don't think he upset nobody. And we go ahead of Mills, Draney. Like he's a good player. He's Crotobin, he's a belt winner. Little man, like Tony, he didn't win. Fame Nate won, but he played the game like anybody else. He ran the ball, played smart and just got some turnovers. That's the game. Tony was risking shit, he was passing the ball. Fame Nate ran the ball, he didn't risk anything. Man elite, shoot. Yeah, I've been telling me this guy Man elite is pretty good. You know what I'm saying? This is the only game Mills, so Wesley just say Mills is a shitter. That's all you guys say. I mean Mills has been good enough, man. Mills has been good, man. Like he's been a good player. And Wesley, it is my saying, like you didn't win the game, you lost. You lost. You understand? Man elite, I've been telling me he's pretty good. You understand? And he played good. Ivan, Jeff, these guys are back to back club series winners at least. Let me go over here to the other side. Ski man, who's been playing for a long time. Radiant, who's been practicing for a month. Shit. Phenom, Phenom's probably in the players that look the best Phenom's probably in the top 10 of this. Really? He looked really good. I'm saying that we got BG, BG fan. And I can't lie to, we got Eva Lowe who's won giants back to back. Like, these are God. I mean, he didn't win that. My man, who was a guy? Oh, weapons or thumbs, won that. You know what I'm saying? My point is, and we go back to this bracket. This graphic right here, boy, this is just pure. Look at this one. We got Ice, Bazooka. Kwani, Borderline Bazooka. Nick Bazooka. My man, some serious. Spoto, Jeff Allen, War Daddy. I love God. Like, I'm telling you, man, it's definitely some things, some people that sneak in. Like, that's mad. People are gonna have upsets. People are gonna have this, that, and a third. People are gonna have, there's gonna be people that sneak in. Now, this looks strong over here. I can't lie, the NFC look real strong over here. You know what I'm saying? Drake, Strafing, Kane, McKinley status. Neemee, T-Day. I mean, the NFC looks way tougher this year than it did last year. But at the same time, I mean, the NFC looks way tougher this year, or last year. At the same time, man, I mean, we got D-Croft, we got Volt, we got, you know what I'm saying? We got Trey Kings, Beast Moments. I think that's strong. I think the West is strong. I think the South is pretty strong. I thought Sybil looked really good. Boogs, Nick Hackle looked pretty good. Now, that's why I ask you guys, I just think, this is how I feel, Wesley. This is how I feel. It goes, this is how I feel. Let me tell you something. The biggest thing I never want to do is be a salty fucking person. Now, you can be salty, cause we're all salty as hell. I'm salty as hell when I lose. You're salty as hell when you lose. That's period. People be salty. That's life. But I don't want to like bring down from other people cause I'm salty. To me, that's corny. Last year's bracket was better than this year's, when you're out of the bracket. I feel like this, if you're out of the bracket, let the bracket be in peace. I just feel like that was some salty shit to do. That's all. That's my biggest thought about bringing up all this year's bracket shitty compared to the last one. You know what I'm saying? That's all I feel about it. Cause listen, I'll be sick of shit. Watching other people play. When I got popped, my level of salt be through the roof, through the roof, but I can't let you guys know I'm that salty. All right, listen, I said the game sucks. You know, I got cheated, blah, blah, blah, but no matter what I think about the game, I'm never going to take away from somebody that's doing better than me. Cause that just make you look salty. The worst thing you will look is salty. You got to be salty with a smile on your face. Hide that salt. Jealousy is a weak emotion, man. You got to overcome that, you know what I'm saying? Last year's bracket, the game was shorter, or the game was longer, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's all I feel. Dalupe the salt, you feel me, I dilute the salt. You can't show people the salt. That's all. Yeah. What's the, it went without, tweet was not meant to take, yes it was. This bracket sucks compared to last year's. It's 1000% to demean the people, then what else is it for? Oh, this game sucks because this guy made it. That's literally the whole point of the tweet. The game sucks because this guy made it. And you're pointing at these guys. This is like, I'm pointing at you guys, the game sucks, cause you made it. That was the whole point of the tweet. I, you can't argue that. I'll be feeling the same fucking way. I'll be mad as shit as some of these dudes watch. I'll be feeling the same way. You have no problem. Like, listen, I feel the same way I watch these kids play and I think I'm so much fucking better than them. The game sucks that they're there. I feel that way. But to say that and publicly put it out there is corny. That's all I'm saying. That's all, that's all I'm saying. Okay, you're not salty, but listen, I'm salty. Me, I am salty. As a competitive man player, I am salty. That I'm not there. First one to tell you that. I don't give a fuck if the game is shoots and ladders. If I'm competitive in it, I want to be there. I don't care if I got cheated or not. And I'm going to be salty if I'm not there. One thing about me is I can accept my salt and support the other people. You know what I'm saying? I could accept my salt and not, you know, say, the game sucks because this guy made it. That's all I'm saying. It's just corny. Cause y'all don't understand, I'm the saltiest person in the world. I think anybody that's real competitive be salty. Yeah. By the way, let's talk about this all the time. We ain't going to talk about this no more because it is what it is. But I want to talk to you guys about who do we think is the strongest division? I'm going to look at these and I'll tell you mine cause you guys kind of know, I think I got, I already went through one already. Let's see if you fancy. I feel about the same. I feel about the same way. AFC South is really strong. Mills and journey. Crotobin and little man. That's strong. I think, I think we got to think, like you said, NFC West is strong with Beast Mode. Beast Mode by far, look the best. Beast Mode by far had the easiest time winning his club. The easiest. NFC South is cool. I'm interested to see how you's are going to play offense without the, without the nasty streak. I like my chat. I like the chat here. But you guys can see YouTube, you guys can see young Tony elite. I mean, this was not bad. I was Tony here. Tony got second life. I'll tell you something. If you get second life, second life, just like my man user God. I mean, he's not the player that Tony is, but who, who the hell knows? Like I said, you can't underestimate none of these dudes cause people are playing these shit out of the game. Right? So, but to get second life is like, all right, I'm back. You know what I'm saying? It's like when you're with a girl and she breaks up with you, right? Like, all right, let's put it like that. If you're with a girl, right? And you, when you're first, like first couple of months, you're doing whatever the hell you want. But if you get caught up and she takes you back, then you play a little bit harder, right chat? You play a little bit harder. Like, bang, y'all play a little bit harder. Now I'm gonna lock in a little bit more. And I feel like that's how Tony and user God gotta be, you know what I'm saying? Is NFC North the worst? I would say, Fina, I'm look good. Radiant look good. BG look, all these dudes look good. I mean, if you could put me in any spot, like if I, if I, if I could take somebody's place, right? Like, W, we're gonna give you a chance. Chat, now you guys, you guys tell me this. We're gonna give you a chance to compete for $100,000. You can take one person's spot. Who would you guys pick? Who would you guys pick that think is the easiest road to go on? The Browns, Deliverance, and then Penguins, you want Penguins? Yeah, I would pick Henry. I would pick Henry. Joke, joke, yeah. Yeah, I would play, I just feel like I'd beat the shit out of Deliverance. I don't know, but I feel like, but then he get on the field and he just balls, man. It's the scariest shit ever. I don't know how the hell he, bro. He just balls every time. I would probably pick Henry. I don't know. I do think that the Skimbo's the division. I think this is pretty good. Cause Stevie J and AKG is gonna be a slobber knocker. And thumbs, I mean, thumbs is thumbs. I mean, he put them two thumbs up that master shit. It's the short games. Can't even do single elimination, bro. It's been single elimination forever. I do feel like they should have kept the double elimination up until now. I do think that. What's the point of doing it? I don't understand, what's the point of doing it halfway through? You know, if you're not gonna do it, I've never been somebody that said it should be done. But I feel like it should have went all the way up until this guy, until somebody won the club, the double elimination part. Cause for do it just for the online. Yeah, we're definitely gonna do a bracket challenge next week. We're not sure of all these matchups, but next week we will announce the bracket challenge and who wins that, man, Sam. Yeah, I've never minded single elimination. I've never ever minded that. I do mind the short ass game though. I don't like that at all. I agree, the short ass game is kind of, I don't know why. And I feel like it's an easy thing to fix. I think they should fix that. But they're not going to, that's gonna be the game this year. That's gonna be the game this year, honestly. But I said, we will do a bracket challenge next week, man. Once we figure out all of these, cause like it depends on what team finishing the division, we're gonna figure out all, and that's kind of tough. You gotta prepare. Some people have to prepare for two or three people. I mean, other teams, like, Henry don't know who he's gonna play. He doesn't know he's gonna finish first or second division. No idea. My man, Majone's gifting the subs, man. Thank you, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. My guy, that's a real one. But like I was gonna say, nobody really knows. So it is definitely gonna be tough for those guys competing. And then they only have what, a week to turn in their lineup, which is, this how I feel about time to turn the lineup, time to make changes. As long as everybody's the same, I don't care if it's 10 minutes, you know? I don't care if it's 10 weeks, 10 minutes. If everybody has the same date, then I think it's cool. I really don't think, I think it's cool. Tell my man, bust there in the chat, man. What's up? Boom, boom. Lineups do tomorrow. So whatever, as long as you guys have the same, or as long as you guys have the same, the same time, I feel like it's cool. Agreed, disagree, chat. But anyway, I'm excited. We'll do a bracket challenge next week. I said I'm working on some sponsors to try to get a lot of money. If not, I'll put up the money, try to get it popping for you guys to fill out the bracket. Last year, everybody just did it on their own. It was their phone and they filled in the bracket. I wish there was easier ways to do it, but we'll figure it out. No, we're not gonna do any buying. It's gonna be free 99 to the bracket challenge. Free 99, I don't care if you're on YouTube, I don't care if you're on Twitch, I don't care if you're on SoundCloud, I don't care if you're on Twitter, wherever you are, it's free to get into this. But I will tell you, you guys will police your own brackets and there'll be a cutoff date and you'll police your own bracket and tell me which one you had, you know what I'm saying? All right, I don't think anything should be live except maybe the finals of the tournament of each club, just one PlayStation wax box guy, and I don't think they should stop double elimination until somebody wins Xbox or somebody wins PlayStation, that's all. But ultimately, for me, it's just the length of the game is the toughest thing that makes it tough. That's all, just the length of the game. If they fixed it, Madden has been fine. All the best players have been the best players for four years now. I'm saying, and honestly, one of these players that you know, the jokes, the skimbo, the dreamies, I'm saying one of these guys is probably gonna make a run in this tournament because they're just that good. That's, I mean, this is like, let's just, if you lost, I got popped, like, I just, it is what it is. You know, I mean, and it's my fault, you know, it's not like the game, I didn't lose because the game was too short. I could have fought in the games that I had if the game was longer, but, you know, Buster, don't come in here with the Bugatti bug stuff, bro. Come on, man. All right, I got it in the podcast. I heard somebody said Bugatti bugs doesn't have any respect. Buster, come on, bro. I love single elimination. I don't know. That's how I feel about it. I wouldn't want to tournament if it wasn't single elimination. That's how I feel. I played some of the best games of my life when I needed to play the best games of my life. That's how I feel, you know, and those guys didn't. You know what I mean? Like, that's their fault. And I feel like single elimination makes you have to, what is that little emote they see the guy sitting up in his chair? That's single elimination. Drop your fucking nuts and let's go. There's no coming back. There's no rematch. There's no whoopsie I messed up. Let's do it again. This is it. I just, I just don't, that's how I feel. Yeah, more sweaty. That's how I feel. I'm a single elimination guy. I don't mind double, it's not like I'm not going to, I'm not going to war over that debate. I'm not, it's like, if whatever it is, I'm cool with either way, but I don't think it's that big a deal. Oh yeah, man, that's, I'm just saying. That's how I feel. You know, I just, I think it's the, I do think the short game is bad. I legitimately think it's bad. I think it's, I, now we said that about Riggs. Riggs has had the 42nd plate clock. Riggs has had a 42nd plate clock for the longest and it just, for me, it's always been bad, bad, bad, bad for that. And I don't know why it went on. I just, I just liked the 32nd five minutes was always, it's always good enough. I can never, I can't ever remember a game that I lost because the game was too short. Now I will tell you, I lost to Bobby V and I lost to Jean, both guys who I think would, I would beat nine times out of 10. That's how I feel, right? And I feel like I could have fought better in those games from making mistakes and being behind. Yes, but ultimately I lost because of me. It wasn't because the game was shorter, you know? And I don't think, I don't think there's been a time, even this year, this year is probably times where people see the games too short. That's why I lost, but at the same time, before this year, when it was 32nd play clock and five minutes, I don't think the length of the game has ever been a problem. I think that's the perfect time for a game. Opposite Joe's as, what's my matchup? I wanna see the most. Joke versus skimbo, that's what I wanna see. Who else? I wanna see Boogs versus user. I think that's gonna be fun. I wanna see Drenny versus Mills. I wanna see, I wanna see, I wanna see Drenny play everybody. I wanna see Joke play everybody. I wanna see, I wanna see, I wanna see Joke play Drenny. Skimbo play Drenny. I just love seeing those guys play Madden, honestly. No, no, Skimbo, let me tell you something about Skimbo. Skimbo gets worse the more you play him, and he knows that, especially me. Like, no, he gets worse. First game, no chance. First game, if someone beats Skimbo in the first game, like, they, I feel just like they got lucky, honestly. Deep Crawl versus Henry, yeah, for sure. Skimbo's a pop-up, you haven't seen me. Skimbo's, oh, Skimbo's like the guy that lurks on the corner and hides. He just pops up, you haven't seen me play. Boom, lost by 40. That's what I'm saying. Bro, BG Fanverse Deliverance would be a slobber. Yo, forgive, you late, I'm telling you. Deliverance is the king of slobberknockers. He is the slobberknocker king. There is no, listen. Deliverance from the jungle, bro. I swear to God, he's the slobberknocker king. The slobberknocker king. Nobody's, nobody's more, listen. Sweatshop Deliverance, bro. We need to get Deliverance on All-Star Team-Up, bro. We need to get him on All-Star Team-Up. He gotta know how to play 2K, like, come on. He's gonna add something to some team out there, for real. That's all. But anyway, this was episode 59, man. You guys, listen. Bracket Challenges next week, episode 60. Bracket Challenge, man. I can't, I'm gonna have fun filling out my bracket on the stream. I might have the Boogzman popping up. I might have the Boogzman popping. Might have the Boogzman popping. You know what I'm saying? By the way, this was 59. I said, hit the like, but, listen. Morty, I'm trying to tell you, Boogz clefing the line of All-Star Team-Up, Jesus. But this was the new podcast, episode 59, man.