 Staying in the game. How do you make ends meet saying in music and somebody who's done this extremely well is Tank we all don't know tank. He's an R&B artist. He popped in the late 90s early 2000s Might have been early 2000s definitely, but you know, maybe I deserve was was the song That set the world of flame and had a lot of men angry at the time I wasn't old enough to have I'll deserve energy. Yeah, it's a deserve the I deserve energy. So I didn't feel that same pain, you know, I mean, I Didn't have any trial tribulations Or wrong doers that I deserved the karma that he's speaking of but with that being said He's been a writer for so many songs. He's been a backup singer for so many songs and I've always actually loved this about tank because It's the lack of ego That it seems that he has and when you talk about loving this shit He's somebody When I see him when he talks about R&B, he loves tension and a lot of artists say, oh, I love you I just want to be able to do music if I'll be happy He's somebody I actually believe that shit when I see him talk about it and specifically especially R&B. So Why are we talking about him? A lot of people didn't know that he wrote Marcus Houston song naked and he did some background Focus focus on that song. Oh, Mariah's Oh, which makes so much sense Actually, it's very very tankish when I think about it someone so many ways, but apparently he wrote that and He's on the background of that I've actually see him talk about this and Elias, I mean, I see him talk about this in an interview that he was the background vocals for a Leah song which is crazy Because I always thought it was a Leah and it did sound like a woman until I found I was tank He was like, oh, yeah, that is that right, but you just assume because it's a Leah now this I could play I'm not playing the other songs people just because of copyrights, but this is just him singing so I could play this for y'all might recognize this a Leah song and That's probably my fame. My most famous vocal I've ever laid like Just sing that And That's probably my fame my most famous vocal That I've ever laid It's crazy. I did think there was a woman singing that see that part Right, right. Well, he's just been in the game for so long. He actually came up as a background singer So that was something he did early on He was gene wise backup singer before he was a big artist All right, one of those guys so that might speak to what the lack of ego Um, he wrote Jerry Fox do what it do Which is one of my favorite songs when I was too young but that probably to be one of my favorite songs So some artists and managers are just waiting for lucky moments When the ones who are killing it have systems to consistently take artists to another level over and over again And if you want to see what that looks like, we just did a collab where we not only show the system that we use That's resulted in billboard hit some of the biggest viral moments on tiktok instagram and youtube But also we got jr. McKee to break down how he took an artist from zero to one of the biggest hit songs of 2022 and getting a Grammy in january of 2023 This is recent stuff not old tactics If you want to check it out go to brandman network dot com slash Grammy because jr gets into the details of looking at the data decisions that got made How much content got created and how they adjusted the content over time for different parts of the campaign This is real behind the curtains type of stuff. So again, go to brandman network dot com Slash Grammy if you want to check this out and apply it to yourself back to the video But again, just back to the point like all these different songs and someone who has his own upfront career But then also being able to play the back and be comfortable just to be around the music to be in a groove He did the tgt thing with tyrese in january. Um he's wrote a lot of songs I've seen him be somebody who just helps a lot of young artists You'll hear a lot of stories stories about that. Jamie fox is one of those dudes too Are you Bro, you'll hear like all these random artists and people would be like, oh, yeah Jamie fox like took me in I used to sleep at his house And like take himself actually said he was about to Go back at the geese from virginia or dc area somewhere over on east coast, right? He was about to go back because it was a really rough in LA um and things weren't going like he wanted um them to go And jamie fox was like, yo, man, where you going? You can't go back He's like, what am I going to do if you're gone? We need you your talent Like you're right the way you write man. Like you inspired me So he brought in man And it was just like yo, bro, stay with me like go figure it out, right? And when you see people that move like jamie and the stories Um that are around him see people that move like tank and the people that are around him You could tell that for real again. They just love it And there is a lot of ways if you love it that you can figure out how to make it work. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and man, it's a big testament to it. It's just how much longer you can keep yourself in the game if you Aren't afraid to take us about the spotlight. I'm helping people out. You know exactly lots of hardest man where I think service level it always looks like like they are the reason Their career is going so strong, which you know, it is in a sense like it's your work out that you made these choices But the real reason they're they're still so successful at moving so much because Of exactly that how i'm in the back end making moves that My audience might not even know about for another 10 20 years, you know what i'm saying, but But there's artists that you know Now goes on to become something or become somebody never forgets I did then that they will still help put me in certain positions that help me do certain things And maybe even move my career for you know as a front-faced artist, so like yeah, I think like it's such a Wild artist mentality, but I've heard a lot of artists say things about it would never help other artists do certain things Working on one stuff and it's like nah, but you you open so many more doors and you become less competitive That's another big thing artists are competitive, bro So sometimes you as an artist may not get help from another artist because they're looking at you as competition But if you're gonna find a very You know Low risk way to move yourself in there already shows a halo. Yeah, maybe i'm competition over here But within this realm, I can be of use to you. You know what i'm saying? I can help you do x y z thing better that's gonna Unfortunately open up a lot more doors in a lot of time. Yeah Um, because there are doors artists that you guys are getting shut to you guys Or getting shut because you're artists and you just don't realize it because you're artists I'm saying but they're like, oh you're another artist Not there see but then you got to have that talent too Because that's for me. Yeah, I also brag about being 100 where you can write produce, you know, that yeah Seeing before well, you know, all that you could do all that himself being in the studio come back Out with a full track and that thing is ready to go. Yeah, right Everybody doesn't have those multiple talents, but if you do I mean one is to your own benefit to I have multiple talents in a more holistic view of the track, but If you do you know Don't keep it to yourself. It might paint right now, of course personally you could just keep it all to yourself great, but I feel like If you really love music, we would just want to be around it It doesn't mean you have to just own your own career, but Like if you think about people who play instruments, it's like, all right I might not be the one singing at the moment But I just love playing because I love music performing being of all of them jamming. I've seen Bruno Mars This is how I know he used to be big like a lot of people think oh man, he's doing like Culture vulture and or like doing the stuff he's doing now just to pop Right because he's doing more like old school old to I mean, you know, I don't even know the years like what 70s 50s to 70s like music a lot of times He played with 80s too, right? But I saw Bruno Mars back in 2010 1112 where he was beautiful girls. He was that guy, right? And what else do you have that was more him because beautiful girls? Grenade, that was yeah, he was that guy, right? So a little bit past just being beautiful girls, but like that was all so close together, right? He was that guy, but then I will go on youtube I became fan of him because I was just on youtube I ran when came across like this commercial with him and he was like Saying his ass off And he was playing piano and it was like this it was funny the way he did it And he's saying like an old school style style. So I was like, oh man, this dude could really sing And then I will see performances with him backstage Not on front of the stage just backstage where he made friends with like freestyling Whether it was freestyle rapping or freestyle and like playing with some of those old songs and notes and doing that Like all the stuff he's doing now Like he was already doing it just for fun and he brought the back behind the scenes and front of the scenes Even if you looked at this concert early on he would be um Like he would always have like his friends and it'll be like a good time like his band and they would like have this It would be like my backup dancers are there and I don't see them And they're just a part of like the aesthetic It would be like this this banter back and forth Like they were like homies as we always felt like and then they would interact with the crowd. It almost felt like skits so the fund that Bruno Mars emanated on 24 karat magic, you know, I mean But what was it technically called 24k gold and like y'all know what I mean though, right? Like but that fun and that energy started to emanate and started popping for since then It was already something he was doing and it was just somebody who loved the game But you know this guy was also an Elvis impersonator at like four years old. You know, I'm saying so you When you watch long enough It's interesting because you can always tell those people who are just like Oh, they love it. Love and he could see how other artists treat them too because Bruno wrote um The shit for for a silo The uh, not crazy. Oh, fuck you. Fuck you. I said, I know. Yeah He was he was part of that. He uh, Bruno's wrote a lot of stuff He's one of those guys that just be they just love it, you know And they they write and And it kind of just is what it is So those people always intrigued me and it's even more intriguing when they also find individual success Because there's a lot of songwriters and people a lot of scenes who are just around it and love it And whatever but the people who get their own stardom and they're still doing that shit It's like it just seems like an extra level of like, yeah, you really You really like breathe this shit, right? Yeah, you know, not in him. I too think, you know Because like I said, he passed attention to a lot of old school artists Yeah, and that was a big part of the old school artist blueprint. We're like, let's be involved in everything Collaborative. Yeah collaborative. Yeah. So I'm gonna go write my own stuff And then when I get done with my session, I'm gonna go play guitars over here. I'm gonna play drums over here I'm gonna help this yep ours with this song writing because you know, the more stories you get to be a part of the The more shots the kind of shot that you know, like I said, like how many of these songwriters That are popular the artists that we know they got to start by giving a big song to another artist first I'm saying and that situation was even the reason that we cared about them or knew about them Or maybe it gave them the resources to be able to change their own dreams of the artist, right? Um, so yeah, a lot of doors open up When you don't close yourself off the work of one of the artists, even if it's sometimes maybe against like the the competitive nature in you as artists and say like sometimes you you have to do it because We as consumers are looking for that. Like I think it's cool as a fan to see You know other things that my favorite artists have worked on you like that. Like you said like man Like this, I didn't know tank was on that but it was on you know, but that's cool You know that made me like him a little bit more like man, he was willing to go Bang out get some some pub credits for this little joint. You know saying I don't know how much he can pay for that how many dollars he makes every time that home comes on But who knows how his pockets or his business situation or even his credibility as a artist They will look if you never decide to do that, you know, yeah So it was a good long-term investment no matter how it fell in the moment You know, I'm assuming it felt good because he chose to do it But long term it was a good investment because of who she became you know saying and like and what kind of came from that So it stacks up. Yeah for you show legend. Yeah, it's like um Pharrell he's actually one of those guys. Yeah. Yeah, he's like that. He's one of those guys You tell love it being a part of everything. Yeah, he's been a front man But he's still just comfortable and building other people up and doing sauce And I thought about him because you talk about those kind of stories. It was like when he came out He didn't come out um People revealed It was like some random like viral post that he was the guy on the s That's uh wb job. Oh, yeah, this yeah, I was like, dang and it's such a small thing That's the double to be and that's it But It's like, oh, shit. That's for real and now that's like really cool. Yeah You know what I mean? It adds to the legend that you did literally you just said three letters and that was it And look at the impact that she made for them True Exactly that on a whole another level. So now it just looks like Right. Look at how many great moments he a part of Even though you only had a little mommy. I don't know. He might have technically been a producer on that too Or whenever I don't know I know you came up on the teddy riley and stuff But like even if it was literally he just said that one thing He's just like yeah, again Look at how much great you've been a part of and then you start to get credit because then it doesn't Feel like a coincidence. He's like, hey, the energy must just be right when he's around or something all right, so All right, I'll be well be willing to give it up and I just I know we're in an age where it's hard to collaborate Because people are creative music in their role. We're not forced to be in a studio where you're around people and everything but I I don't know. I definitely Encourage people to figure out how they can Like just share You know what I mean and and collaborate because so much comes from it anyway Like the the experience the stories the little shit you pick up from how other people are doing stuff Anyway that you can add to your game. So you got another move in the chamber There's a lot of stuff that comes from it, but You know, I found that to be an inspiring post in general just talking about the moments that he's been a part of and You know, just it's why I like to talk to people who are doing dope shit Yeah, yeah, man It's like someone reach out to you or whatever and like they're really dopey believe You know, well, man, I don't got to be involved in the business If I just really believe in this shit and then some come of it, you know, it was just another cool moment I was a part of yeah, but there are a lot of people in the music a little life like that Those people I was on a jet retreat and like Travis Scott dropped his book bag And I was like, bro, you know, I make book bags drops and like he invested 50 million in my you're like, what? Those those stories are out there, right and those Those sometimes those stories be having you punch air for real. Yeah, right. What damn man? What was that? I think a book bag straps everybody got a book bag Of