 Welcome to the Bull and Bear Show, episode number nine, and we are definitely in a bull market. I'm here with Blaze, my very special co-host. How you doing today, Blaze? I'm doing OK. Oh, man, what the heck happened there? That's what you call, don't let a dog pull you in the house when you shut the door. Oh, no. That sucks, man. I haven't done that since I was a kid. Oh, I hate when I get injured. That really, really sucks. But it was a family day today, as usual, and a long day. And we got to throw it. And I just put a splint on it, so I'm good. You're a champion. I think we're going to have a couple of guests joining us as well. I believe we'll have Market Maverick and Nash Cowboy joining us today for the first time. Before they even get started, we've got a great show, so many different things that we're going to talk about today. The news is crazy. There's so much news. And it's usually not like this in the summertime. And we also have records. Apple hitting all-time highs. We're having McDonald's hitting all-time highs. Nvidia hitting all-time highs. Microsoft hitting all-time highs. Bitcoin up big this year. Ripple. Ripple, and that's going to be one of our topics we're going to go to right off the bat, Ripple. And I want to get your opinion on it. So we'll just go there right now. Here we go. So I want to talk about this right here. So the big news is Ripple right here. Ripple lands and notches landmark win in SEC case over XRP cryptocurrency. So this was the biggest news that really set Ripple going crazy. And I just like to know, what's your opinion? Did you buy some Ripple? Are you holding Ripple? Does this make you want to buy? As an American who couldn't buy Ripple before, is this something that makes you want to buy Ripple? Is this something that has changed the game for you as an investor in Ripple, as an American that couldn't buy Ripple before and now is able to buy Ripple on Coinbase and other platforms, crypto.com. What do you think about this news? Well, I'm ecstatic because co-host Mark, right? He always talks about it and I'm sitting over here in America, can't do nothing with it. And now all the ones I had to get rid of months ago, right? I can actually get back into investing through it. I think it is moving up to number three crypto for me. So it goes Bitcoin, Ethereum and the Ripple. As an American, we're all psyched, we all bought some and we're gonna buy more. And the thing that's sunk is that we have to watch the rest of the world do it when we know America uses it with our banks, you know? Yeah, it's a crazy, crazy time. And, you know- I just feel something good out of it, Rich, you know what I mean? It was a long battle, right? Yeah. And they win. So when people win against the SEC, that tells you one thing, buy. Yes, I agree with you. And I can't even tell you guys how many times everyone was saying in the group chats, Rich, can you buy me Ripple? Rich, can you buy me Ripple? They wanted me to buy it for you. We all wanted you to remember? Yeah, because you guys- You just can't do it. You can't do it. You guys couldn't buy it in the US, right? So I was just like, you know what guys? I'm sure once the rule is positive, which it now is, you're gonna be able to buy Ripple. And boom, right away, Coinbase gave you the ability to buy Ripple and Crypto.com gave you the ability to buy Ripple. Cracking- And that's the best way to do it, right? Wait until they win because you can't go out buying it for 20 of your friends, you know? Of course, it's just too messy. You got a portfolio of taxes, too. Yeah, it's too messy and I didn't wanna get involved, right? It would have got messy for you because you would have to keep track of, All right, I bought X amount, sent it out to people. Where's your tax money? Exactly. And we get taxed really, really crazy here in Canada. So it's not like a joke. Right, and I'm glad you did it because it keeps us doing the right thing. Yeah, like at the end of the day, I'd never want to take anyone's money. I'm investing for myself. I think everyone should invest for themselves. Everyone should be learning in 2023 how to invest on their own. And that's a big part of what crypto is and that's a big part of what crypto has given investors is the ability to have a decentralized way to send money without any government or any bank intervention. That is the beauty and the technology of the blockchain. That is the game of the blockchain. That is what makes the blockchain so unique and the single greatest token and coin that gives banks the ability to move money, large amounts of money, instantly and for little to no cost is ripple. And that's why this is such a beauty. They're talking fragments, man. Like banks. And that's why this is such a huge landmark case. Right? If you take your money off Cash App into the bank, they charge you a bunch of money. If you take it off PayPal, they charge you a bunch of money. You know what I mean? Send back and forth business-wise, they charge you a bunch of money. If you do it through a ripple, you're paying fragments. So this is what came out after the big news. So first they came out saying that ripple is not a security and ripple went through the roof. Stellar Lumens went through the roof, Bitcoin jump. All cryptos had a nice move. And now only a few days later, the SCC is saying that, well, the ripple price went down 12% and the SCC said that regulators that they will appeal the judge ruling. So this, this is not over. This is not over. So XRP is not out of- They're only stalling because they have to pay a bunch of money that, you know. So you think that this is not going to have any effect on the ruling? No. You think the ruling is done? Once the judge in America hits that gabbo, bro, the SCC has to come up with something very strong to open it back up. No double jeopardy here. They have to find a different case against them. And then the SCC is going to fire back and sue them and say, look, you're putting us on hold. You're stalling, paying us what you owe us, you know. They don't want to pay the bill. They owe a ton of money. So the only way to stall them from having to distribute that kind of money right away is to keep it going, you know. Yes. And that's the only thing they can do right now. They're kind of crawling. It's a very crazy situation because I heard that Gensler requested for like $2 billion for the SCC. And I'm like, how much of that money is going to go to Ripple? You know, they're requesting for money to do their business. And I'm thinking how much of that money is going to go to Ripple? And- If you keep on doing this to Ripple, they might end up suing the SCC, you know. And the $200 million can turn into the $2 billion. Yeah. I mean, the longer the SCC drags this out, the more money they're going to have to pay Ripple at the end of the day, unless a judge decides to change their mind and maybe they get a different judge. And they- A judge to overturn another judge after two years of almost three years of MassPro, they're going to probably be like, wow, too many people involved in Ripple right now, everybody's buying it. It's allowed to be bought. And if this goes backwards again, there's going to be a lot of angry people, including government officials, you know. Yeah. At the end of the day, like I think you just have to take some loss. I think Ron might have something to say about it. I think they just have to take this loss, right? And move on. I mean- The only thing they're doing is stall. The only angle I can see Rich, honestly, bro, they're trying to put a stall on the payments, and it's a legal way to do it. It's a very big piece of news because it's affecting the entire crypto market. We're going to look at the price of Bitcoin and we're going to look at the price of crypto. So here's Bitcoin, and you can see I've marked this up. And Bitcoin, this is the yearly chart. What does this look like to you, Blaze? I mean, that is an amazing chart. That's- Oh my gosh. That's the chart you showed me months ago, way back down at the bottom. Where you showed me with that bar right there. Everything you showed me months ago is happening. Yeah, and I told you that we're hitting a bottom. And now we're here. You showed me all that to the right. So if you want to go to the first dot in the very beginning of that line, right? The first red dot where it goes green and skyrockets, right? You showed me the Fibonacci of how that line is going to go up a mountain, right? Remember it went past all the things and you said when it gets around here is a good target. Look where that thing is. Rich TV called that. He called that. It's an absolute beast. And the crazy thing about Bitcoin is- I think you called that when it went down to $16,000. But look at this. This here, this is a very point, this is the last month. So we jumped up right at June 16th. So June 16th, five weeks ago is when Bitcoin really jumped. And then we got to this zone here. And I think it's a very important- Here's your plateau. There's your plateau of stability right there. That's the new floor. That's the new form. And that red just below the line means to me, I need to buy. Yeah, so this is the new floor. So the new floor is between 29,500 and about 31,800. This is like the new zone that's been trading in for the last four weeks. It's been in the zone. Okay, it's been going up for five weeks, but it's been stuck in the zone for a month. So it's a very key zone. Look how healthy that is too. Yeah, this is a very key zone. This is a very key area because if we can break this resistance, this 32,000 resistance, we're back in business. You'll get another one of those green candle runs right there and it'll go up back up to 50 or 60. Like when you look at the chart here, I believe where we are here is where we were right here. We can circle it. Let's see if I can circle this for you. Show you what I mean. Hold on, circle, perfect. I believe this, right here, this zone, is the exact same as the zone. I agree. So look at how this went up. It did a little dip and then skyrocketed. I believe this is the first- Small dip on a plateau, then skyrocketed. That's the first pump. That's the first pump and then there will be a little bit of a pullback, which we're kind of seeing right now, right? And then there's going to be a skyrocket and I believe that skyrocket is October, November. So hold on. I'm with you on November. I agree on November. So I'm going to draw this out where I believe it's how it's going to play out. Let's see here. I think we're going to see it go like this and then you're going to see this. That's what I think we're going to see. Remember the last time you told me that when it was 15K, it did that. Yeah, and this is just based on the fact that we're going into the high season for Bitcoin, right? So if you look at the zone, we are literally at the beginning of the explosion that happened last time and what caused that last explosion, Bitcoin having and what's coming up in March of 2024, Bitcoin having. So that is why I believe this is just the early pre-buying before the big fireworks. So we haven't even started the fireworks and I'm looking at some people that are predicting that this thing could go to like 400,000. There's crazy predictions coming up. In fact, Kathy Wood just predicted that Bitcoin could go as high as 1.5 million now, she's predicting. She's predicting that Bitcoin could go as high as 1.5. When that woman speaks, a lot of people listen. That's right. And she's got a massive fund, which is doing extremely well this year and Bitcoin is one of her largest investments and she's also heavily invested in Tesla. She's done extremely well with Tesla and she believes that the price of Bitcoin can go way higher, way higher. She's predicting the president of the United States in her head and we get anything like Trump or Santas. The Santas in there, it's going up, dude. The American public will dump all their money right back into Bitcoin right now. The multi-millionaire billionaires out in the United States, they're waiting on it. They can't do it with what we got going on now. It's crazy, man. It's just crazy what's happening right now. Because on a lower level, Rich, I feel the same way because Bitcoin's not my number one investment but it's my final investment. I think, you know how I feel about Bitcoin. It's a bank account. It's a better bank account than putting your money in. It's a high interest savings account, right? It's a high interest savings account. So this is how I look at Bitcoin and I think everyone should look at Bitcoin like that. So my next question is, did Ripple win or lose in court? And Amanda actually said this, they didn't really win. They kind of partly won and I didn't understand what she meant but I think the more I look into it, she's right. They didn't really fully win, you know? So this isn't over. They didn't win because they had a piece going in too but they won in a sense because we're buying it again in America. So something happened to make exchanges saying, we're selling it again. Once an exchange sells it, that means something won there. So here's the thing. The victory was they weren't proven to be a security, you know what I mean? Yes. And that right there is enough for the public to start pushing back at the SEC, you know what I mean? They're supposed to be there to protect us and it seems like they're going against us. And check this though. I'm a huge fan of RFK Jr. who just announced a bold plan to back the US dollar with Bitcoin and end Bitcoin taxes for Americans. Nice sales pitch to get the office, huh? Hey listen, man, if I was in America, which I'm not, I would be voting for RFK because I love the fact that he wants to back the US dollar with Bitcoin. I think that's a brilliant idea. I think that is game-changing. It's not the only one who wants to do that. DeSantis wants to do that too. That's right. Hey listen, whether he gets in or DeSantis, that's bullish for Bitcoin. Or they team up. Absolutely. I even heard that RFK could team up with Trump. That's a statement. Trump can team up with DeSantis. Depends who's got the higher votes and who really wants to be the next president after Trump. Amanda's saying Trump gets in again. And she's in Mexico. DeSantis in again, he's going to pick RFK or DeSantis is going to say, hey, which one do you want to be the vice? Because in four years you're going to be the president. You know what I mean? 100%. That's what's going to go on. And if you're losing, you'll be dumb if you didn't take that job. Because Trump- I think it's so exciting that there is a president that wants to back the US dollar with Bitcoin. I never thought this day would come. I think it is glorious. Just the fact that he's even having those conversations. And then it also came out that he owns like a bunch of Bitcoin. I believe he owns like anywhere from 100,000 to $250,000 worth of Bitcoin. So this is a man who's putting his money where his mouth is. He actually owns Bitcoin. I think those numbers are inaccurate, to be honest with you. Probably owns more. The Kennedy's a billionaires. So... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He probably owns more. I think he's keeping it low because he don't want people to think that he's got a couple of hundred million in it because, oh, he's just trying to pump up his own investment. You know what I mean? I think he's just trying to show as an investor and it's a good idea. But if he's a Bitcoiner and he's willing to say that, you know, he wants to do that with the US dollar, he's into it big. Trust me. Oh yeah, hey, listen. I just love the fact that he has come out and said that he owns it. I love it. I love it. And the fact that he wants to back the US dollar with Bitcoin is the nominal news for Bitcoin. Because Bitcoin's about to go into a bull market, which I just predicted. So with Bitcoin going into a bull market, that's going to help his election. Well, put it this way. If Trump, DeSantis, and Kennedy does good, people are going to stop buying Bitcoin early. Exactly. So what I was showing you guys earlier on the chart, that was just like the pre-pump. That wasn't even the pump. And we've got a nice pump this year. We're up 80% on Bitcoin. But the reality is... I like what you said. That is a pre-pump. Hundreds of percent. Okay? When it goes haywire... That's the perfect way of saying it, Rich. It's a pre-pump. I'm making this prediction. When Bitcoin goes haywire, it's going to start moving by $10,000 a month. $10,000 a month. So imagine we're at 30,000... I think we're going to have months of 50,000. Imagine when it starts moving from 30,000 to 40,000, 40,000 to 50,000, 50,000 to 60,000. Now you're growing your account by 20 to 30% a month. People will start to chase that. That's just the way people trade. That's the way people do it. That's what people do. Everybody chases me. It depends on what level you want to be on. You've got to make money on every level either way. Oh, for sure. It's basically how long you can hold it. Are you going to be the one that buys it for 30 grand and dumps it off at 150? Maybe. Because the odds are going back down under what you sold it for, a very high, and then you buy it back and the odds of it going double of what the all-time high was, is a very high too. So... Hey, I think we have the market maverick here. Market maverick, are you there? It's always the way... Bitcoin's always going to make you money if you believe in it. Market maverick, I can't hear you or see you. Right, Rich? Hey, listen, man, you know how I feel about Bitcoin. I even got the market maverick into Bitcoin. I told him, because he's all about Ripple. You got me back into it, too. And I said to him, I said, listen, brother, if you really want to be a crypto influencer, you cannot be a crypto influencer unless you own Bitcoin. It's just the way it is. I believe you need to own at least Bitcoin and Ethereum to be a full-blown influencer. Yeah, like you don't even talk about crypto without owning some Bitcoin. You need to own Bitcoin. Until you actually own Bitcoin, nobody will take you seriously in the crypto world. If you only have Ripple, because the reality is the people that own Bitcoin and like Bitcoin, a lot of them are against Ripple, because Ripple is not decentralized. It's centralized. Bitcoin is decentralized. That is one of the biggest things that Bitcoin actually has against Ripple. But Rich, you know what's going to go on. The Ripple is going to make their money and put it into Bitcoin, brother, it's simple. Hey, I just think that everyone should own some Bitcoin. I'm not saying you shouldn't own some Ripple. Ripple was one of my first holdings. Right, right? We got five top tokens, right? That's right. We will leave this five, right? Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple's up there, and you got to put Cardano in there, but I don't think you will. Some people that I know will, but Binance ain't going nowhere. You got to play with a little Binance too. So that's my top five. I'm going to give Cardano that nickel, that nickel bleed in there, you know what I mean? Because if Ripple does good, Cardano is going to shoot. So. 100%. I agree with you 100%. A lot of people are believing in Solana. We'll go at sixth place, you know? I like Cardano. You want to play with a couple of... I like Cardano. I think Cardano, like during the next bull run, I think Cardano is going to do phenomenal. There you go. I like Cardano. They got a big community behind them. I like Cardano. Mark and Maverick, I know you're having maybe some technical difficulties. I'll let you back in once you can get your screen on. So Rich was really on like a top eight, but you got to put a polygon in there. You got to put a dot. Paulie and Dot both moved up pretty nicely. But out of the 10 majors, you know, the poo tokens, Dodgecoin has established that it's not one anymore. So it's a baby Bitcoin. That's for beginners in my book. And then people are going to play with Shiba. That's another beginner's token. So, I mean, at the end of the day, go look at the top 25 and make your choice. That's all I can say. 100%. Yeah, for me, the build on, the build on. And everybody else. And then it's Ethereum. Those are my top two holdings, full disclosure. Remember, Rich TV Live is strictly for information and education purposes. Please do your due diligence and do your research before you invest in anything we talk about or discuss. Past performance is not always an indication of future results. Right, this is what we do. This and I are not licensed advisors. So we are not telling you guys what to buy. Okay? We're basically telling you our opinions based on our knowledge in the industry. And I've been in the crypto industry now since 2017. So I've been in the crypto industry for seven years. I've been in stock since 2007. I've been in stock since 2017. And I came in two years later, 2019. I heard about crypto being strong in Bitcoin and 17 like Rich. I didn't take a chance like Rich. 2019, I played with some small stuff. So yeah, we've been around this stuff for a while and we're talking about it amongst each other of what we're doing. If you guys like what we're saying, investigate, do your own studying and make your moves, you know? Cause you can't win if you don't try, you know? But like Rich said, you know, we're not professional advisors. We could be privately, but not on open air like this. And we're just talking about what's hot and what's not. And that's it. You guys got to do your studying. I mean, I know me and Rich played a game and I think we're both in agreement, right? Rich, that we said in the end, most banks are going to put crypto in it, but where are they going to go other than Bitcoin and Ethereum, to be honest with you? I think that they're going to go to Bitcoin and Ethereum and now if- And possibly Ripple. And Ripple, now if things go well with Ripple, I think Ripple will be the coin that it will be used. And this is why I wanted to get Mark and Maverick on here cause he knows a lot about this. He spent a lot of time studying this, but- Well, the only thing I'm worried about Ripple, Rich, is like banks are using Ripple themselves, you know? Well, this is what I want to talk about next, FedNow. FedNow is finally live in the United States. And from what I've heard and from what Mark and Maverick has shared with me, it's RippleNet that is being used for FedNow. And it's the Ripple technology and the Stellar Lumens, which is XLM technology that will be used for FedNow. So that is huge for Ripple. Stellar Lumens was a no-brainer. And you know what? Forgive me for getting about that, that company out of the top 10 because I've watched that whole video about Stellar Lumens. I watched it up, down, left, right? I even passed test one free crypto doing it. You know what I mean? Let me tell you. They break it down to a fragment system of 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 5 is your fee. Okay? My Stellar Lumens. That's the Ripple effect. Like Ripple crushes it. Stellar Lumens, Cardano, like all the security accused are gonna be the tokens of the future, you know? For the alt tokens, you know? 100%, we're having some technical difficulties. Mark and Maverick, we can't hear you or see you. If he can hear you, tell him he's gonna go back out and don't go through Google, go through like Safari or something. Cause that was my problem, remember Rich? Yeah, you might have to go in through a different browser if you're having a problem with this browser. Yep, changing browser. Because we can't hear you or see you. And we'd love to hear from you on this topic. Yeah, please fix it. I need your info. So with FedNow happening in the United States, is there anything there that, like anything new that you can talk about as an American with FedNow? Yeah, okay, FedNow is developed. So they wanna pay Social Security, food benefits, EBT and cash benefits to families, right? Yeah. Everybody's gonna get the same money. So it don't matter to them. But in the end it does because now, you can't sell your EBT card. Now, you can't take your cash benefits and go buy a TV with it. You know what I mean? So they're gonna know everything you're doing and eventually it's gonna cause problems for families, you know? Hey, we have a cowboy with us. Hey, that's cowboy in the building. What's up? How you doin' that? I'm sure that's gonna cause problems with me on that too because with FedNow, if they know everything a big family's doing, I know people shouldn't be doing certain things but at the end of the day, you shouldn't be able to find out someone's buying toilet paper, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Nash Cowboy, I wanna introduce- It's hot money anyways, right, Nash? We pay taxes, they take that and give it to you. I just wanna introduce him to the community. Everyone, this is Nash Cowboy. He is one of the members on LiveMe that has a large community. How many followers do you have on LiveMe? Nash? Oh, about 170,000. 170,000 followers on LiveMe. Blaze is one of the top broadcasters on LiveMe. He's at like 600 and how many? Almost 700,000? 696,000 now. 696,000 fans on LiveMe. These are the two of the biggest stars on the LiveMe app. We'll have you on the show here, Nash. Welcome to Rich TV Live, brother. We're just talking about Ripple and I know you've been getting into crypto and we're talking about Fed now. So what's your opinion on Ripple winning this case with the SEC? You got anything you wanna say? From what I know, they're trying to appeal it, correct? They are trying to appeal it. That's correct. Okay, so of course they're gonna try and appeal it because Ripple is doing things that they don't like and things that they can't exactly control without taking control. The government's always trying to dip their hands in every pocket they can. So they want to be able to track you more and more and like Blaze said, they wanna know if you're buying a toilet paper or a gun or whatever. And I think that it's a huge win for Ripple winning the case. Hopefully the appeal won't go through. As long as the appeal doesn't go through, I think there's no limits on Ripple. You can see an easy $25 Ripple up to the $45 range. So Nash, one quick question. You weren't here when I gave you my answer. Hold on one second, Mark and Maverick. You're here. What's up, guys? Sorry, I was having site permissions problems. Yeah, that's what I had. No problem, man. We got a full house here today. We got two. How's everybody doing? Sorry, I'm late. I had a little issue. I have to take care of it. Hey, you're better off late than ever showing up. Hey, you know what? I want to get in because we're all talking about it and you're the XRP expert. So why don't we just start off by you giving us your opinion on this landmark case. Let me just put my opinion real quick. So Mark in both national. Okay, basically what I said guys is that the United States is notorious for this. When court cases are lost and people owe money, they'll appeal it to stall the payments. And that's the only legal way to do it, selling your payments, that you're gonna have to pay fees and stuff that you owe somebody. That was my opinion. I think Ripple is in the clear on the appeal, is my opinion. What do you think, Mark and Maverick? You know, I was watching this case for about the first day it started till the last day it happened. I paid attention every single day. And the honest truth, the judge never ever liked the SEC. She was always siding with Ripple the whole time. Oh, sorry guys, it's 30 degrees here. And I gotta say, if they have an appeal, I don't even think the judge will approve it. I hope you're right, man. I know that that's what Blaz is saying. Blaz is essentially saying the same thing. I hope you're right, man. I hope you're right. It would be true, right? No, I believe I'm right. Sorry to interrupt you guys. I believe I'm right because the FedNow system, the FedNow went live yesterday, sorry, the day before. And these guys have been waiting for the SEC and the Ripple case to end. And the reason I know this is because the FedNow system is piloting Ripple's technology in order to use the FedNow system. So Ripple is needed and XRP Ledger is needed as well for Volante's technology system. It's called the Ripple Modular, sorry, the Ripple Module Processor. And that allows the FedNow system to use XRP. Now XRP can't be used in CBPR plus in England and it can't be used for central bank digital currencies without clarity from the United States. Now, sorry, distributed ledger technology or no, they connected Xcurrent and XRabbit to make what's that called where not the banks, oh man, I forgot the name. It's similar to distributed ledger technology, DLT. But during the lawsuit, the judge said that XRP, she didn't say it's not a currency, she didn't say it's a currency, she didn't say it's security. She said it's not a security. So it could be multi-utility asset. Very sense to me. Yeah, she kind of left it open for that. Yeah, I totally agree. Sorry, I got to search up what I was trying to talk about here. What's on my YouTube channel? I don't know. However, I do think that they're gonna continue because they want that control. And when it comes to control, anything can happen. Whether they win the appeal or not, I think they're still gonna try and come after something, whether it be XRP or whatever, you know, they're already trying for all kinds of other cryptos as well. Now, however, Ripple's win board was a huge move because how can you consider, like as long as the appeal doesn't go through, which I don't think it will, but I do think they're gonna try. But as long as it doesn't go through, then how can you consider them a security if Ripple wasn't a security, you know? Correct. So the other case should have no problem when it's moving as well as what I'm saying. And I think people are starting to see that and I think people are starting to see that far. Yeah. If I was a judge, I would get offended. When you lose, you always have in America, you have a right to appeal, you know? And when people appeal, even though they know they're lost, they need to buy time for something. Yeah. And you gotta realize that in anything like this, they're smoking in here or something. They're, we don't... Put a loophole in Ripple. We do not know everything. There's something going on behind the scenes. We can only speculate. We do know that they're gonna be affiliated with FedNow. You know, so what's going on really is the question. What's going on in the background? Why are they even trying to appeal it? There is something going on. There's a lot of something going on. I think that FedNow is a very big copycat of what Ripple's doing, you know? You know, J.P. Morgan and R3, they actually had a lawsuit with Ripple. No one really even heard about it. In 2015, you could search us up. I had one of my subscribers do the math and they were allowed the options. Ripple won the case, but J.P. Morgan was allowed the option to buy $5 billion worth of XRP. They only purchased $1 billion at 0.0085 under a penny. XRP is at a dollar already and they got $1 billion worth and they purchased 7 billion XRPs. Now, I started to think, okay, there's J.P. Morgan and the FedNow. On Ripple's website, it says Ripple liquidity hub. So I'm like, okay, Ripple can have liquidity hub, let's say 20 billion or 30 billion XRP where 7 billion went to J.P. Morgan for them to have a liquidity hub for their banks and then Goldman Sachs and SBI, they'll all get like 3 or 4 billion and they can have subsidiaries for their, they can have currency for their banks. You know what I mean? Like a liquidity hub. And I'm like, this is a good way to do it. And Ripple's website shows they have a liquidity hub for the same system that I'm talking about. Yeah. Very interesting. Now, listen, I wanna move on to the next topic because we've talked about this for a long time. So let's move on to the next topic. And it's actually just like a little bit of a different spin. It's actually, I wanna talk about Messi. So Messi yesterday played his first game with my Inter Miami, you guys are in America. And I know you guys are not huge soccer fans, but I just wanna know, does this make you guys wanna go and watch soccer? The fact that one of the best soccer players ever just moved to Miami and scored the game-winning goal yesterday in spectacular fashion. He scored a game-winning goal, top corner, free kick. Everyone went crazy. LeBron James was at the game. Kim Kardashian was at the game. So many celebrities were at the game. Does this matter to you guys at all? I just like to know. In my perspective, I'm the least person to ask this question because I don't watch any sports except for MMA fights. I do gamble on soccer here and there on an app, but other than that, I don't even watch the game. I don't quite understand it. It will not make me ever watch a game. I've played a couple of soccer games just for fun, but I didn't really enjoy that either. Well, I'll give you my opinion. I'm in Florida. He's in Miami. Sock is worldwide. Billion dollars, trillion dollars for it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, that's going to help the economy. That one single man can help the economy over there. What do you think, Mark and Maverick? You know, I agree. I believe they only got messy because Roberto Carlos said no. I was always a Roberto fan bigger than Messi, but I respect Messi because of what he went through and how he got through his illness when he was a child. He was very short and he had a disease. And, you know, he got through all that and he became a superstar. So that gives a lot of people hope that story alone. That's great. Do you think soccer is growing very fast in America? It wasn't always as big as it is in other countries, you know? Right. But here in the last 10, 15 years, it's got huge, you know? And in the last five years, there's a lot of people talking about it. Right now on the screen, I'm showing the World Cup of Soccer results because the Women's World Cup is happening right now. Does that have any interest to you guys? I'd love to know. Do you guys have any interest in women's soccer? Because the Women's World Cup is happening right now and America is really good. The American women is probably the best team in the world. Does that matter to you guys as well? I love women's sports. Sort of interrupt. You go ahead, Blaise. You were here first. Yeah, I'm proud of the women. And women can play sports and they're showing up. So, to hear that the USA women are really doing good. It's good. Yeah, I'm a competitor, bro. You know? Yeah, the US women's team is really good. And it will pull me, that will pull me to watch a game or two, you know? You guys are in America. I would definitely support the US women's team. They're a very strong team. They're a very good team. And they're probably the favorites to win the whole thing. They won yesterday 3-0. So they won in their first game 3-0 yesterday. So very overwhelming results over Vietnam. And they're probably the favorites to win the whole tournament. So again, I don't watch any sports except for MMA points. So it doesn't matter to me. I don't watch any women's sports. Not that I'm not proud of the women in the sports. I think there's a big issue with the whole women's sports now with other things added into it. That's a problem for me. But as far as watching women's sports, I just don't do it because all I watch is MMA fights. To me, I don't enjoy it. Like I've seen a couple of women's fights. I don't enjoy watching them at all because I don't enjoy watching women get bloody. Like that's fully, I don't know. There's a reason why I love women's sports. And that reason is because those women are not trying to enter men's sports. They understand. They want to keep it in women's sports, you know? Yeah. So that's where I'm at as well. I'm very against the opposite of that. So in my opinion, it's hard for women in sports right now because you would have none trying to enter women's sports. And I feel bad for it really. But that's just... Well, the end game is, what do you think about it? Like besides that, like, you feel good about the women out here in the USA, getting ready to take it out? Absolutely. Well, I just think that people in America should support the American team because they're really good. And if they win the World Cup, people in America should talk about it and they should get as much credit as they deserve because they are an unbelievable team and they have a very good chance of winning it again. Now I just want to keep going guys because we don't have that much time. So the next topic is the sound of freedom. This is the most controversial film ever. Mel Gibson has been kind of attached to this film but a lot of people don't realize Mel Gibson was not in this film. Mel Gibson did not direct this film. Mel Gibson has nothing to do with this film. He just liked the story behind it because they're bringing attention to a global problem of children and young adults being trafficked. This is a major problem. In America, in Canada, all over the world, this is a major problem. I'd love to know what your guys' opinion about this. The problem is they're not just being traffic to people in America. They're being traffic to people in government. We've got a lot of corrupt things. It really fits me off. I think I'm the only one that's... Even Trump is talking about it, guys. Trump is saying, go watch this movie. You know, I always had a feeling there were... I think Hollywood is probably the biggest whip-tile trafficking agency on the world, bro. No world. Absolutely. So I think at this point, I'm the only one that's seen the film. And I would just say... Oh, it came out? Yeah. I have not seen it yet but everybody is talking about it. It's been a huge hit in the box office. Mel Besson? Does he name anybody? I don't know. Nash, does he name anybody? I don't think he did straightforward but he did mention government. But I will say this about the film without giving anything away because I don't want to do that. It is definitely maybe even top three films I've ever seen. If it wasn't a true story, it would still be top three, all right? This film is so emotional. It takes a lot to make this man cry. I've been through hell in my life. It made me cry. It made me mad. Like, I mean, it made me happy. There was so much emotion in it and the actors, even the little kids in this film were phenomenal. Like, and it being a true story, that made it even better. I just gotta say, I really want to go see this film. The film was filmed for less than $15 million and has already made over $100 million in the box office. And if anybody out there can't afford to go see the film, you can go to their website. There are people donating tickets to go see it. There's no reason not to go see this film. You can see it for free. I know I've donated so that people that can't afford a ticket can go see it. I let my three oldest children watch it and they loved it. And it opened their eyes to a few things. Some people don't want their children seeing it. I understand that, but in today's society, I think they need to be aware of it because it's becoming a dark society more than ever. It's just crazy because many of us here, I know all of us, except for the man who has kids. I'm sorry. Mark Maverick wants kids. Mark Maverick, we haven't heard about your opinion on this. What do you think about this? With the Mal Gibson documentary? It's not his documentary. It's called Saturday Freedom. It's a documentary on children being trafficked. He's just supporting the documentary and he's saying that he's getting literally blacklisted in Hollywood because he's supporting this documentary. A lot of people in Hollywood, for example, you know what I was thinking? I'm just going to give you an example. You know the Island Boys? Yes. So personally, I think the whole Island Boy thing, I think they're from Epstein Island. That's the actual thing that I think. Well, yeah, there's pictures with Epstein and the Island Boys. Yeah, so I believe that a lot of these people in Hollywood, they have an initiation where they grow up and they go through a lot of things like sex things as a children to a lot of the superstars that are older. And I don't like how the fact that the people that we see on movies every single day are actually the same people that are just big in this disgusting app. Why in the world? Why in the world is Mel Gibson even making? For supporting this documentary, if he never knew something about Hollywood and why in the world is Hollywood banning Mel Gibson? Is he speaking the truth or something? You guys got to see the video from 20 years ago that Mel Gibson did when he talked about it. I've seen that. It's crazy. He doesn't interview and he talks about it 20 years ago and he's now finally coming out and talking about it again because he's older now and he's just like, you know what? I don't really care what you guys try to do to me because I'm pretty much done with it because he's seen too much and he doesn't want to see any more of it. But I think this is a sad reality of what's happening in this world. I can't believe these types of things are happening to children or happening to anyone for that matter. And I really hope that we can find a way to get past this one day. I really, really do because it's sad. Sorry guys, my phone might turn off on me. It says it's running hot, it's like 30 degrees here. Yeah, no worries buddy, no worries. We got you here. There's no reason not to see it. You can get a free ticket. If you can't get a free ticket, I'll buy you a ticket. It is an amazing film. It will really open your eyes to some things. And you got to understand when you watch it. It's even worse than what you see in the film. That's just this guy's personal story. What he did, but there's a lot more going on than that and that makes it even darker. It is, there's an estimated somewhere around 2 million children go missing every year. All right, 800,000 just in America. All right. That's heartbreaking. Now I just want to move on guys because we only got 10 minutes left. So my next topic will the SEC approve spot Bitcoin ETFs in 2023. I want to get your guys opinion. Just say yes or no. We'll start with you, Blaze. Will they approve? What? Will the SEC approve spot Bitcoin ETFs in 2023? Yes, I believe they will. I thought they already did. No, they haven't. They're just accepting the applications right now. They have not approved any of them. Supplying them in. They're going to have to. If BlackRock is applying for it, they got no choice. The way I feel about it is BlackRock's involved in it and BlackRock's only lost one thing that they've applied for out of like 500 or something like that or 200. I think absolutely BlackRock's gonna win one and once they win one, that's an open gate after that. I got a question for you. Do you think that the SEC is going to accept Ripple's IPO, which is gonna happen very soon here? Well, based on the fact that they still are in the process of appealing the court case, I don't believe they will accept it. No, I don't. Because I think they're gonna hold the grudge. So I was meeting that judge, they might order, they might ask the judge to allow it in the case. Maybe that's why they're doing it because of the whole spot ETF thing. Maybe they're just trying to buy some time until that goes through. Who knows? Yup, good bye. The US SEC has accepted six spot Bitcoin ETF proposals for review, but none of them have been approved and the SEC takes an average of six months to make a decision. So based on when these have been put in, we literally would have a decision right at the end of the year. Yeah, I think we're at the beginning of next year. I think with BlackRock being involved, they're the largest investing company in the world. I don't think there's any way they're gonna lose. They have more money than the freaking federal government does to fight them. So it all comes down to money. He with the most money wins and BlackRock definitely outlands them. I agree. BlackRock untouchable, Fidelity is untouchable. You know, if you buy shares in Samsung, you're supporting BlackRock, if you buy shares in iPhone, you're supporting Fidelity, but if you buy shares in Fidelity, you're also supporting BlackRock and if you buy shares in BlackRock, you're also supporting Fidelity because they're the single biggest, largest shareholder in each other's company. These guys are unstoppable. Absolutely, which makes me believe that they are each other's company just with different names. So basically they are according to the shares that they hold on each other, so they're partners pretty much. Yeah. They own America. I mean, America is corporation itself where corporations in the world now have more money than governments. Yes. The largest investor in the debt for America are actually corporations inside America. So when they say we're $40 billion or $40 trillion in debt, whatever we are now, they actually owe that to corporations inside America. More than, like everybody thinks that China owns us, it's actually American corporations that hold the most American debt. Yeah. Which is exactly why they didn't, like the US Congress was mad at the SEC for the way they were approaching the whole crypto space. It's like, why are you pushing all the capital into the third world countries? What's wrong with you guys? So I have one more question for you guys. So right now I've got the charts of the biggest companies in the world that are all at all-time highs, Microsoft all-time highs, Nvidia all-time highs, Apple coming off all-time highs this week, McDonald's all-time highs. So my last question for you, before we say goodbye, it's Saturday, it's a weekend and I appreciate you guys all being here from, we got two Americans here today, we got two Canadians here and everyone that's watching all over the world on all the different platforms. My question to you guys is, is this sustainable? We're in a market meltup, stock market's on fire, Bitcoin's on fire, crypto's on fire, Ripple's on fire, Ethereum's been on fire, Bitcoin's up over 80% on the year, Meta is been on fire, Tesla's been on fire, stocks are hitting all-time highs. Is this sustainable? Does this market meltup continue or does it end here with all of these stocks hitting all-time highs and all markets getting close to all-time highs, NASDAQ getting close to all-time highs, Dow Jones close to all-time highs, S&P 500 close to all-time highs. Is this the end or does this continue? What do you guys think? We'll start with you, Blaze. It's the beginning. Wow, okay. All right. What do you think? There's gotta be a new government coming, bro, a new president and everything. Things change in America when we get different faces, if you know what I mean. I agree with you, I agree with you. Obviously, as far as the crypto goes, we got Bitcoin having coming up next year and it's Bitcoin in itself, we know runs the freaking market, okay? Everything kind of follows it. Bitcoin, people see it dropping and they're like, oh no, we're gonna listen to money. No, look at the whole year. Bitcoin's been on an uptrend for the whole year since January. Yeah, this is the one-year trend. I got it on the screen right here. It's on an uptrend since January. It's not going down and it's only building up to the heaven. So this is a good accumulation year. You ain't got nothing to worry about. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not a financial advisor, but everything's looking hot. Just like it shed and then the Bitcoin hadn't not happened and that's when you're gonna make some money as long as you. What do you think about the stock market, all those guys hitting all-time highs, Nash? I feel like he wouldn't even buy Tesla stock right now. Yeah, I think everything's at the top. In my opinion, guys, everything's at the top. If you're in stuff, sell now. The reason is we're at all-time highs and next week, Powell is gonna do another rate hike. Once he does another rate hike next week, everything goes back down. Now that's okay, that's okay because everything's at all-time highs. So let everything settle down for August, slow down for August. We can buy again and then there's probably either one more rate hike where things will stay slow and volatile for another six weeks. And then after that, no more rate hikes. And once the rate hikes stop, that's gonna be rocket fuel for the market. That's my- What do you think it's gonna go up to? Well, I think that with the, if we have two more rate hikes, I think that we're gonna see the market really get hot again, October, November. And I think we're gonna see Bitcoin really explode and we could see Bitcoin get back to all-time highs by October, November. I really believe that if the rate hikes stop and we get back to either a pause, which is what we're in right now, the market is doing well because the federal government in America did a pause on the rate hikes. That's what everything's exploding. But if they continue to do rate hikes, that's going to be what is going to slow down the market. And we potentially have another rate hike next week. So I believe this is a sell zone. And this is what I wanna do, guys. We got two minutes left. So one by one, I just want you guys to tell everyone about your channel, where to find you guys, how do they can subscribe and follow you on social media. We'll start with you, Blaze. Oh, well, I'm Blaze from LiveMe. You can find me on liveme.com. You can also find me on YouTube, Blaze & Fest. And you can also find me on TikTok, Blaze & Fest. So I'm here for you guys daily. I'm easy to find. So we appreciate it. Tessa, just hit me up. Love having you. I'm open in everything. Every platform. Blaze is a trooper. He hurt his finger and he's still here. Look at that. I shut it in the door. He's locked in the door and he's still here to do the podcast. Now I got my point. Cowboy, your first time on the Bull & Bear show, love having on the show, brother. I definitely wanna make you a regular with us here on the show. Tell us a little bit about yourself, where the anyone that's watching can find you. And guys, I'm also gonna put a description in the description of this video. I will put a link to all three of your channels on YouTube. Nice Cowboy. I've been in the social media world for about four years now. And online me, I've got about 170,000 fans on there. Go ahead and follow me over there. I just started a YouTube channel. And I'm gonna be starting to post a lot of things once I get situated properly. Nice Cowboy. I'm here too. I am the crypto cowboy. And all I can say is settled up because it's gonna be a bumpy ride. Market Maverick. Tell us a little bit about yourself, what's going on. Another YouTuber that's been killing it. And as far as I'm concerned, he is the man when it comes to Ripple. Yeah, Ripple is my favorite company. It was the first crypto I ever bought. Not only did it make me money, but after reading about the technology, I realized I was in something deep. I'm the blockchain breakdown show on YouTube. The alias is Market Maverick. And I've known Rich for about, since what, 2017 now? And he's helped me through a lot of things. And I decided if there's gonna be a mentor out there for me, it's gonna be Rich. And you know, you guys, I have my link here in the top there, you guys can click the link. If you're watching, you'll get to my channel. Personally, I believe that I came a little bit late, but I will say that I believe that SEC is going to lose the appeal because there's so much going at stake with Ripple needing XRP to have clarity. That it just seems to me that it's time where they get clarity, the FedNow system goes live, literally a week after they get clarity. And Ripple today applied for a license in the UK where they need XRP to have clarity for CBPR plus, which is CHAPS and FARGET2. So you can find me on the blockchain breakdown on YouTube. Rich, thanks for having me again. I was late, I'm sorry. Hey, no problem. I appreciate you guys all being here. Love having you guys on. Love to have you guys again next week if you guys are available. And everyone that's watching, if you're not winning, you're probably not watching. We bring you the news. We talk about what is bullish, what is bearish, and what is happening and trending every single day. And remember, there's always a bull market somewhere. You just gotta make sure you find it. And we're the guys that are gonna help you find it. And thank you guys for joining me. I really appreciate it. Blaze, Mark and Maverick, Nash Cowboy. Love you guys, appreciate you guys. Have a great weekend, everybody. Thanks for all, guys. We're out. Until next week, peace.