 I'm Karen Marshall from the International Livestock Research Institute based in Narebe, Kenya and I'm also the Genetics Flagship League of the Livestock and Fish Sea out here. So the project I was working on was on a pastoralist located in Asimata, which is one of the poorest countries in the world. And we were specifically looking at the gendered breeding practices of men and women pastoralists. This is one of the first studies of this nature in that most other studies on breeding practices don't consider it from a gender perspective. And what we found is that men and women pastoralists keep livestock for different reasons, also that they have different trait preferences for their livestock and also they use different criteria to select livestock. Just in terms of how we did this work, it was done by using separate male and female PRA groups, so participatory rural groups. This caused an issue because in Somaliland we could only have female facilitators with a female group and male facilitators with a male group. So that was a technical issue for us, but at least this approach allowed us to speak to the female pastoralists, which are difficult to speak to in this environment.