 Okay, it's time for Up The Press and Chris Kendall and a member of the Chattered Institute of Abiturators in the UK is joining us live this morning from Lagos. Good morning to you, Chris. Good morning, thanks for having me this morning. Great to have you, always a pleasure to have you. So let's just get straight to Brastax Punch newspaper. It's leading with FG denies subsidy return, more fuel stations shot. The writer's NNPCL blames pockets of fuel queues on road delays and 25 refinery licenses idle over subsidy, says Kiari. Yes, you know, this is the geography about where subsidy and no subsidy is occurring in the decimals and you have to understand the basis of May 29th, 2023, the red inauguration of the president, the polar measure, is today categorically that the first subsidy is it's seen of the past and that this government is not going to be part of that and it talked about corruption within the system and for being the reason to remove stress subsidy. And prior to that, before the expiration of the regime of the president, that has already put in place and it was supposed to last till the end of May or June this year. But the president made that category statement and that has led to a lot of issues within the economy. Well, and we are told a few days later that the market force is going to determine the price of petroleum as it were and you can see that in two weeks we had two price increments of petroleum products before the heart cry, but Nigeria and also labor and subsequently nothing like that was not like, but there have been increases in the prices of crude oil across the globe. So if there are going to be, if prices of petroleum products is going to be determined by market forces, so you are expectedly you are going to expect that the prices of petroleum would have risen again after then because the price has shifted in the national market, which is why most people now believe that as the federal government pays subsidy, I know that my decision that Pegasus should look better. So if Pegasus came out to his president to say that the federal government had resumed the payment of petroleum subsidy, then I would believe that. But the NNPC came out yesterday to say that there is no increase, there is no increase. First of all they have not been re-established or returned and there is nothing like that, but I cannot believe NNPC. NNPC is just one out of too many oil companies in Nigeria right now. Don't forget that NNPC has privatized the sooner or later the government agency. So it is a private company. It cannot represent the totality of the oil sector until the Ministry of Petroleum has come out to give a categorical statement or the president of the federation, as well as the truth is that the spokesperson to the president or the minister of information to the categories say that yes, subsidy has removed once and for all. Then it would be difficult for me to be able to believe what the NNPC is saying. That is what it means as of now. But good enough, there is no pricing after the last two. Good enough, no price increase yet. Because that was a major concern, in fact over the weekend it was a major concern, which of course the NNPC dispelled that Nigerians have no cause to worry that there won't be an increase in the pump price of fuel. So you do not believe him, perhaps I don't know, do you believe one other major statement he made that Nigeria would be a net exporter of petroleum products? Do you believe that? Do you think it's feasible? Do you think it's just a political statement? Well, I find it difficult to believe most of this government official because if you look at what happened since 2015, where the president promised that we are going to have revived all the refineries that were going to be more, and the eight years of that government most single refinery was revived. And despite the billions and billions of dollars that was pumped into maintenance of those refineries. Well, if this government have come to say that the tackle refinery would be on stream by December this year, then the others will already have done it next year. I think that what we just saw, but let's wait and see sincerely. I'm not optimistic if they do or will I go for Nigeria, but if they don't do their surprise to me. So if we say that by 2024, Nigeria would be a net exporter of petroleum products. Let me try to take it a bit optimistic and also be a bit pessimistic. So I'm not here, not there. I'll just sit on the fence and see how. December is just about two months from now. Let's see the magic you're going to do with my other expenses. Yeah, but I'm sure even he himself won't be surprised if Nigerians do not believe him. Maybe because he said he won't speak much. The Lord has been said already and he doesn't want to give a date so Nigeria's don't get offended because I mean. The date is no. The date has not already been given. It's not for him to give. 2024, but not a specific date a month. But 2024, 2024 could be November 2024. October. Did you see a date? No, no, no. What I'm saying is that the first 30, the first refinery we start production by December 2023. So the other ones to say 2024. Yes, definitely. That's not it. So if they agree to meet the target of December 2023 for the for the first one then. But what you have to ask yourself, what is the refinery capacity of those refineries and what is our consumption level? If we are just on those three or four refineries, whether they can be able to define enough products is here to be seen. Then whether it's also depending on the one of them that is here to come on stream. Maybe that is also what is what. Don't forget that and they have about 25% equity in the good. Say refinery. I mean the federal government. So because we say that we also share with us in the good refinery. We've been several times that refineries suppose are picking up and they don't go take group up giving us a sort of excuses. In fact to the point that I think you have to be given import licenses for petroleum products. So if that is what the NFPC manager director is looking at. Then our language that what I just want to see is this refineries working. And this is a set is a set decrease in petroleum products which affect every set of Niger like it can be cut short so that we can be able to revive our economy. We want to see same in other sectors not only in the petroleum sector. Yesterday we are talking about Agia Gupta still company that the program was saying that it's going to is projecting up at 50,000 jobs that will be created and I say not again because that is how we have been shortchanged with all these promises. We have took one time that our agricultural sector is going to provide employment for 10 million Nigerians. We never saw anything. We will set it in other sectors. Let this government this government our government not just this government our all government I mean government not just single government. Just let us perform leave all these projections. If it happens we can turn and just go what you see in the US is just say that every month the government will come at the start a group of statistics in the United States who say we have created 250,000 to 50,000 jobs in November and they have statistic to show it for it. But Nigeria all just a history secreted job for this critical job and our employment level continue to rise on a daily basis. Yeah. Okay. What moving forward let's look at the other headlines on the punch newspaper. Above the masthead you have Israeli Hamas conflict. FG1's programs against illegal trips. Legos suspense early lifting. All right. And then for consortia to fix dilapidated pipelines. That's still Melikeari. You want to touch on these two briefly especially the Israeli Hamas conflict. It's getting hotter by the day. The war is raging. Israel is hell bent on getting revenge and getting their people back. Yes the Israel-Palestine crisis has been in the news for over 50 to 60 years now and it has always been that. I remember the seven days before. Yeah but this time around though this time around it appears to be somewhat different. I mean just look at the way Israel was taken on a wares on a very special day of course. They were taken on a wares and we know that Israel when it comes to intelligence who is better than Israel in the world. So for them to be taken on a wares and the magnitude with which Hamas you know carried out this attack is quite strange. Matter of fact Israel has likened what happened to them to what happened in America you know 9 11. Yes I was just trying to lay a foundation to this story there. So I'm saying that it is just like what happened during the hello Israel. Yes I'm hearing you as well as in over 50 years ago and they have been strategic. The Hamas were just been starting if you read the story of the seven day war. It also happened on a Saturday on a June worship day. Saturday was a June worship day in the distant and that is when the Israelis a bit is like our old Sunday where they live lower their guard and go around their business and rest of them. But there was serious failure of intelligence at the part of the of Israeli military. They probably reverted the capability of Hamas while taking off their eyes of the ball and why they have barricaded Gaza. They never knew that Hamas had the supiling rockets arms and rest of them from whatever source which they are the US and the and the Israeli have come to say that they were supplied or we have supplied back Iran. But what happened on Saturday was tragic. That is the worst in the history of Israel. It started by Hamas making an incursion into border lines between Gaza and is the border line with Israel. And they moved into a there was a musical concert was that was going on and they moved into that place and massacred over 260 people young people. As of this month the death toll has risen to about 1000 in Israel. And Israel has also been bombarding the whole of Gaza just this morning. The Prime Minister of Israel said that people should leave because by then they finish with Gaza. It will never be the same again. But what we have already said and which some of us are also students have already said that the social to this problem is a two-state solution to Israel. Why the Palestinians should recognize the state of Israel and give it a due recognition by allowing to use it. Then the Israelis also should be able to look at the Palestinians and also make sure that they also have their freedom. Yes, it can be that they're comparing it to apartheid and this go beyond that. Because on a continuous basis, if the Hamas or those in Palestine continue to pay, send bombs and send all sorts of the same to Israel. Of course, Israel is a nation of which they should be able to also defend itself. But this is the highest bill that have been dealt with Israel since it became independent about 70 or 75 years ago. And this is the premise of Israel. This is just the beginning. What the Jordan was just in the first place. Then there's the possibility that they're going to move in their country. But in all this, it's also the civilians that will suffer. Because the rates at which people are being killed is enormous. And it's quite unfortunate that now and then that we continue to see this. And we don't know whether this conflict will ever come to an end. Because it's probably, if you read the Bible, if you studied the Bible, you would have read that probably it was there somewhere in the Bible that this conflict will continue until Jesus Christ comes again or whatever. Pets, I think it's something that can be solved. If the parties in the country can be pet, this is a very, very unprovoked attack on Israel by Ahmad. Yeah, and they took a hundred of their people hostage. And if they do not stop the bombardment, they are going to kill all of the hostages. Yes, they said that Israel will continue to bombard civilian settlements without warning that they're going to bomb. You know what Israel is normally doing? If they want to bomb any particular building, they send a warning, maybe about one minute, two minutes, so that people can evacuate their pets. From what we have seen now, no more warning is sent. And they said that Israel will continue to bombard to that. They will start killing the hostages. So it's a very, very delicate. Israel will also be very careful in moving into Gaza. Because anything they do, they have all cities that be held hostage. Go by 100 people. And you don't do what this guy is going to do. They just started these hostages and used them as human shields. I don't know how it's going to come out of this, but it's quite unfortunate. Yeah, very unfortunate. Unfortunate that civilians were targeted during this attack by Hamas in Israel. Okay, so let's move forward. Right in front of the punch newspaper, you have the picture of the slain Omovalanli Rahim. Justice for one of your Leonard Fellows that was slain. What do you make of this? In fact, MBA has welcomed the death sentence for the killer cop. Yes, for us, it's a victory for the lawyers and for MBA. So, but I don't want to limit this to just MBA, all lawyers, lannet colleagues, as we call ourselves, as if it were justice. Because we are mannered, the policemen, shot and kiddie-sooman on the Christmas Day. On Christmas Day. Yeah, pregnant. In the presence of our husband and I think their sister-in-law, whatever, and just unprovoked. There was no provocation. And that's, it questioned the ability and the mental state of some of our security agents, especially those in the police force, where a human being can just pull out the gun because you have given it to God. Before then, don't forget that, within that, Agia has this also. It was said that this notorious police station around there, that was a young boy that was also just about a week, within that, Agia has this by that, from that same division of police office, within Agia, a young man that was just going about it, this is somebody just, one of the people, he just pulled out a gun, killed him. But justice came too fast for me, very fast, and that is what we call, because it's just under one year. And they caught us, they were able to deliver judgment on this. And that's where some that dragged for almost five, 10 years before judgment and listening. So I don't know whether it's because she's our colleague, the lawyer, or what did the government do to put you because they were the prosecuting authority. But he has the same test of death. But I can tell you that that would not be the end of the story. He decided to go on appeal. And if he goes on appeal, and uses that as the cutoff appeal, he also decided to, he made. Really? Can he appeal? He has to make. He made a police, he would appeal, or the police appeal on his behalf. He, the court, the court. Not the police, he has the right of appeal. It's a criminal offense, it's a capital offense. But he has the right of appeal, but the court of appeal, if he loses that court of appeal, he also has the right to go as far as the supreme court. So it doesn't end at just the high court. So if the court is appeal, then we have to wait for the court of appeal to deliver judgment on that. Then if you also, please, I ask you to go to the supreme court. On to the supreme court. The supreme court is the final agenda on issue like this. So let's not say, but the fact is that there has been sentence. And then, but the problem for me, inasmuch as some people are against it, we have so many peoples, are we seeing execution in our prisons? And none have been secluded. Then I dive into that, why we still have that provision in our constitution. So if you commit a crime, then we will pay for the crime. That is what's up. Even the U.S.T., today U.S.T. executes. Inasmuch as with all the human rights records and the rest of them, you still see that U.S. still executes people that are abacus. That is the finality. If you continue to kill people that decide to kill their fellow citizens, they just keep in jail for the death, justice has not been served. So it's better for the governors because the governors are the ones that have the right to sign up on the death sentence for the execution. So one of the governors tried it some years back and that was Adam Mushomura who saw the outcry of Oliver Nigeria and that stopped other governors from signing bets. If you have signed up and that you've been convicted of such in those grounds and you need to be prosecuted again, there's no need to keep anybody irrespective of what the human rights people feel about it. I'm talking as an individual now and not somebody that a graduate of law. Okay let's move to the nation newspaper. The nation newspaper leads with Tinubu I'm focused on lifting Nigeria to greatness and the right of their SGF briefs president their stability under APC government says envoy. This is self-seeking chest beating that stability how many months are they it's going to be in the stable we're talking about how many months about three months four months so I don't know the stability does not take care of the interest of Nigerians. Why are politicians like this Chris? Why do they do that? That's why politicians like why don't they just go and and just say things where they are? As you said how long has the government come in place? I mean with all that's going on in the country right now? Man that's the difference between you and them and between us and them I've said it and when a politician says oh man I suggest you take a good money even before you answer me please open the window by the studio there and take your time Take your time because when there is actually money or not those are politicians you know the electorates and the rest of them the world's scholars think but that's what we they say it is not what's in on crime I think this government should just sit down and face the realities and just smear the coffee as it were that the rajah problem facing Nigeria's especially the economy economy is biting so hard Nigerians are finding difficult to be able to eat they are finding difficult to be able to knead and then we have so much put on our necks and if they can just remove it smaller we know they cannot remove the put to toilet but let the release is small so that we can breathe is there a situation across Nigeria some people find it difficult to eat on a daily business it has moved from one one one to one zero one to one now that is now zero zero zero most Nigerians cannot eat and there are promises made yes we know that it's going to be difficult for them to bring all the promises as a basic one they should start fulfilling which it has to do with food shelter road infrastructure health education Nigeria has not asked for too much once they get the basic things we don't have a well complaining you know everything we leave everything to God let them do what they can do and let's continue opening up God to be able to give the rest for us indeed Nigeria's are just asking for the basics so that they can thrive Nigeria's are very hard working people Nigeria's don't really need so much to to survive but when they find themselves in a situation where it seems as if they are being choked on all sides it becomes a real big problem and that is where governments are coming and creating a nibbling environment for the people to thrive okay yes above the mass head on the nation newspaper you have no return to petrol subsidy says NMPCL we will let sport feel next year we've talked about that and then Christmas day killer cop to die by hanging three thousand two hundred and ninety six on death row you also talked about that then you have EU observers report created says page 27 is where details of that can be found and Kayamal says airlines must pay compensation for flight delays you want to talk about that one yes that's a good one if you can implement that then that is good because that is the standard it's a cow regulation on travel if an airline supposedly deletes your necessary that you need to be compensated that in so many instances in Nigeria where you see airlines delaying their fly schedule for about five, six after at times 10 hours there are businesses some people have been at airport for 10 hours and then before they could fly that is unacceptable so that is one the second part is also that if they delay you for more than one hour then I have a right to get my refund and look for another airline that is buying that is what they don't do here they believe that once you pay you pay that shouldn't be you have a right of fund and that is what it should be because if you realize that even these guys are rich if for whatever reason you miss your flight they say you are forfeited in your tickets but if the delay is from there and then they look your that way so the minister of aviation Festus Kayamal said I hope we can work it out as it were and make sure that some of these regulations that are put in place we cannot be able to continue to behave the airline operators cannot be able to continue to behave there are so many times that people have missed their flights because of their appointments because the essence of flight is because you are here you are time conscious you are time conscious you just beyond the road you want to go to Abuja because I'm time conscious I believe that within one hour I can be able to get to Abuja I can finish whatever I'm doing at Abuja Daddy I don't want to stay I can come back instead of picking up a plane in a hotel but it's a situation where people just get to their point and all of them just say oh we have to tell you due to logistic reasons what is logistic reasons what is so logistic about is their reasons that they are lost and lost everything yes but time for logistic and logistic reasons but what if the weather is bad what if the weather is bad and they are just taking precautionary measures to ensure that you arrive safely no man it's not every time weather which one weather even dry water where are they in the city that is not even if it's weather there's nothing you can do about it because it's a conversion it's conversion across across the globe even the regulations say that when the weather is not good but this one is not they will tell you that the plane we are expecting from whatever has not arrived and this one this one and this one and that is that because it's not I finally enter their plane after waiting for about five hours to six hours they give you one small pure water and say that's good baby I'm telling you and they want one of four so it's very unusual I think you have to try and you know that that it's the cost of a flight in Nigeria is becoming very very expensive one one round flight in Nigeria is about 80,000 to 90,000 no matter how short the distance is that was the time when they used to give Jalof rice even though the Jalof rice runs in 30 seconds so I hope I'm not there was a time there was a time you pass away so always after when you pass and back you say back they can give you that small pure water and they have to say thank you for flying with us you know good okay if you leave me I should be able to give me an apple an apple or a bag to hold you for 24 hours all right so Israel lay siege to Gaza and then 2.3 million to vote in Liberia poll let's talk about Liberia yes what do we know about what's happening there yeah I think the election is holding to that yesterday and President George Roy is going for a second term and there is still opposition as it were from the opposition candidates and then they'll be campaigning rigorously most of Liberia's grip that where George of Pure Water the former world footballer of the year has no leave of expectation to the poor misses but he's also an African politician he's not in fact politicians are politicians not where you find them in the world where they're in America only that our own let's say their own marries to power 10 because we don't have a form of check and balances in the advanced world they have a way of checkmating in this thing look at what happened in the United States past the speaker of the House of Representative was removed because his colleagues felt that he was not he was not performing and it was a bipartisan remover just from Democrats and about eight from the Republican Party and they removed him and that was it and by this week by tomorrow I think they should be electing another speaker for the United States of America so Liberia is the oldest democracy in the whole of Africa I think they got their independence about is the oldest independent country in the whole of Africa and they've been going to the pool today and it should be a tough one for all will this be judge where second term I can't I can't remember right now this is second term there's this second term there's this second term there don't forget that she took over Mrs. Aleph Aleph Saliff yes that and it's at least Johnson and this is second term and I hope that he gets it and to interpret so many of the foreign observers yeah but you know I'm surprised that you know this is the report on where because you know when he was campaigning back then some of us here in Nigeria thought oh he would make a good leader for his people so to hear that you know his people are disappointed this is a major shocker you know that's what I said that's it African politicians they promise you haven't heard at the end of winter when they get there they don't and you don't be delivered don't forget that before that he also contested against Saliff and lost so when it was now when the when he not contested the last time that he won and there was so much because one most librarians read that he's exposed he has seen the way it is done in the in the other part of the world yes and that's what we're able to do and he's young yes and young but most librarians believe that he would be he was not able to deliver on his promises but that could also be due to certain with so many factors I don't know I don't know the GDP of Liberia I don't know what the export I don't know what they make I don't I don't know they are what what they are generally what they make in terms of their GDP if he has the resources to be able to deliver on some of those promises but to so many librarians they say he made promises that he could be whether that will not translate in his losing the adhesion is seen so we wait and see as I was saying before so many observers are already in national observers are already in Liberia former INEC chairman is leading a part of some international observers then also former president Buddha of Jonathan is also leading another international observers so all of them are already in Liberia and that's what happens today after the adhesion all right there's something I almost missed here on the script here on top of the main headline on the nation you have Tinnubu appoints Feladu Rotoye for others as eights I didn't hear about that Feladu Rotoye as eights of course oh he didn't hear about it I didn't talk to him oh wow he was appointed he was appointed and one of us also Linda Yipi of Chinese television was also appointed a special assistant to the president Feladu has to work within the media directorate of the president there was a particular I don't I can't remember what he was giving that is a special assistant to the president I was surprised by that this thing because to you is somebody that's very critical of government and has a kind of vision somebody even that contested he contested yes so I'm surprised I don't know what he's going to do with special assistant as an aide yes but ordinarily if he's another client that's not too wrong with anybody accepting to serve service is service you're responsible for yourself whether he'll be able to be allowed to his his ingenuity or yeah this thing will be allowed to place this probably not good because it's wanting to to appoint you as an special assistant of special advisor but it is also for you for the president whoever appoints you to also accept your advice so that has always been the problem in Nigeria so when you're appointed special advisor in Nigeria how many times you've seen as sometimes it's most times you've seen as job for the boys you know creating something for the boys that's what I'm saying so the I don't see what they are pricing now what they got the best congratulations to him let's see how you go I think it was about five or six or point yes indeed and congratulations to Linda Ibe of AIT yeah all right so south of of channels Linda Ibe is it channels or AIT? should be AIT this channel this is no no this channel oh okay congratulations to her so southeast senate caucus renews push for additional ministerial slots your people are looking for more ministerial slots what say you I just said no I just said we don't pass that bridge I just said we don't pass that that's not it because they are very good or not okay let's let's let's move forward then to the guardian newspaper scarcity of diagnostic services cripple cancer care in southeast states your state is still in the news you have this is their big story here on the guardian newspaper and they are saying that 22 million residents of southeast have limited cancer diagnostics machine in public tertiary facilities residents depend on private facilities or referred to other regions yeah it's a very sad one it's a very sad development the health facilities is it's it's totally that most of them are not industrialized that most people in south we have to go to other regions like south south and people come to the south with their doctors for diagnosis on sicknesses that they that can easily be handled and cancer is one of them if you know the rate of people that get have cancer across the globe then it becomes a problem cancer is no longer a death sentence if you can be able to treat it earlier now and they can be treated so so many people have a death that's the problem in this today and that's what we're talking about infrastructure decodinates we want to say that not this specific in the sartons our governments in the sartons have brought before that was a classical example of what the former governor of my state Eritrean subcontractor did in Moustade he he does and make us to believe that he built one general hospital in every local government if you see the one that built in my village close to my village will be shot just a building there's no window there's no door nothing just the yes it is a seven hour review not my place at a place called seven and a half in Ugo just before my village in Ugo that's what you're just in India and nothing I was shot in fact when when he mentioned that when he started I was on the one of those that present to high health in any degree where I was talking I was talking about oh which answer that he's doing very well and health and result and then we're saying now one chance now we're between that between that and the statue of Zuma which one pains you the most oh no not this one not this head facility that's I was only one that Roger did not move in that but so it is the true that is the true situation of the head facility in the southeast and I hope that southeast used to boast of some of the best hospital in those days I mean in India stated I used to be one general hospital that's a place called Amachara in Umahe hmm very very unique University of Nigeria and Sooka used to have one of the best teaching hospitals hospital in I'm sure you may not remember University of Nigeria and Sooka teaching hospitals used to be it ranked among a almost in equal status with a that of loot are you are you you are that I don't know the situation so what is happening to the southeast I mean yesterday I saw in the news that Avia state governor bought computers for the judiciary I'm like really is this news well to them it's news now it's news the fact remains that Avia state even for Avia state you could remember that for almost one year during the time of is it that the doctors were on strike almost one you remember the number of months that it would and doctor's salary so that is the type of situation and I hope that so that OT in Avia state would make a change because Avia state is one of the states in the south is that I'm really very worried about what I used to be until now that we have someone that appears to know what he's doing and sincere don't celebrate yet I don't celebrate yet because there are so much precisely when they come they come with so many promises and rest of them and end up with all they fail to deliver so let us just wait and see what they can be able to do I'm sure I know that the job is enormous but Avia state is one of the should be one of the most viable state in the whole of the south because if you know economic situation economic potential in our part and the area and market yes as you know that the Avia state you you you'll be surprised the same thing with Anambra state look at the hope with which we held Charles Urudo when he was coming in Anambra state oh he's he has a magic want to be able to look at it but go back to Anambra state and as you said maybe about three years after Charles what is it what has been the change you had the what has been the solution they say it's in Urudo with the solution as they provided the necessary solution that is the problem with governance as it we're in the south but that's how it should be looking to so that it should be looked into exactly what should be looked into all of the south because of medical care indeed they should provide enough to cater to the people especially scarcity of diagnostic services you know it's it's not something that we want to hear yes it's not it's not not the cancer actually with kidney you see the rate at which and ideas have kidney failures now so that means that the people cannot even because if you can go to private hospitals for dialysis then that is the standard and so and that's in itself is a it's a very very terrible okay so we have anxiety in Benwe as Cameroon Shed's excess water from Ladodam we're still having this in the news and then you have Shiite PFN differ as Hamas Israel conflict drugs into third day well the Ladodam is not no longer news one is I've been given months back that an indigance should be able to ask these people to that they're going to release water into into the dam and the Nigerians should be able to get in it and the Nehmer and federal government have once people within those uh in marine area to be able to move up or up and you ask yourself where are they going to move to you say people should move where should they move to and that is a problem so but if the water has not be released or it's going to be released then people within that uh in that area should certainly people around those Lokoja and other surrounding states within those area and then we two times we don't know about that which be able to stretch our own part of the of our own and also build and accompany down to be able to absorb most of this water that the Cameranians are going to release but it's not going to turn our party so every year we continue to talk about Cameroon releasing their waters and every part of Nadiambi flooded that in this I've also have some economic effect in that you come to realize that when this water is released most farms especially within the North Central Benue and the rest of just talk about Benue most of these farms should be flooded and that is a just that Benue is the food basket of the nation and you look at Benue Taraba and some of the states in the north if that happened that also is going to affect our output in terms of food food and that also informed the high cost of prices of food items precious from that part of Nigeria so is a total is a team that we should be looking into the various ministries minister of environment minister of water resources and other federal ministries to in conjunction the state government try to find a solution to this pot so that we don't continue to have this issue every year year in year out okay and market has grown six subsidized effects as FG offers 90 import licenses 90 import licenses how much is the dollar now no no no now where they use the dollar now you build your gun now with the look your face how much is the dollar I don't know I don't know the last we heard it was the last we heard it was one thousand one ten at the black market one basic black market so that I wouldn't only want to it in in the black market and the problem of the the fact is that some people are hoping up the dollars now some people are hoping up I know that some people are just using their money especially there was so-called big men some are buying there in the million some drop 100 million by 100,000 dollars I don't know what they are keeping it for so it becoming a problem and we haven't a serious problem but we have to have this that shortfall if we are not able to do the right if I'm not able to export more to any more and that is what we've always said the time we're done the only way you can be able to m one dollar or in exchange is by exporting more so that you can m more that's exactly what we're cooking the federal government the CPL and the federal government or is it an entity recently those of that they are going to get about is it three billion dollars from from one country I can't remember now they used to question if they you know the swore they or include swore yeah and I would say once we get it it's going to push in the effect on the dollars we didn't say the protein effects there has been a rise you know for about 45 percent 40 to 45 percent in the price of dollar since the government came in and that is not looking good at all that is not looking good at all so those in the man manufacturing association of Nigeria are crying they said that they cannot be good to they cannot be good to breed and people are being sacked on a daily basis because the companies are not producing enough and those that even they produce they can't even sell they cannot compete within the in the time they cannot so a lot of problem with it are economic in fact man says you're having the toughest time in history that is it that is it and the the president the vice president Shethima is the head of the economy team of this government and I hope that I'm able to put a very very not just inviting governors every time to this neck meeting to look at the issue of they should be able to put a very very holistic economic thing just like Opus and your did Opus and your was so creative in picking his economic team and that was what they were able to achieve what they achieved during your time I hope this government can be able to put that we have somebody in the minister of finance now who is supposed to be a technocrat we've gotten somebody in central bank who is a technocrat we've gotten other people as everybody I hope they're able to come together and just give us a solution to the problem as it were but as it is if we're not doing the right to which is producing enough and exporting more then this this the law will continue to go down the way it is okay thank you Chris this is a good place to end the story and we do hope that in your in the southeast that they will do something about the health sector so that they can fix make things don't worry and let me go and let me go so that I can start to make it my own Chris for governor emo state I'm your number one fan Chris thank you so much for your time on of the press thank you very thank you very much have a wonderful day ahead you too Chris Kendewan the member of the Chartered Institute of Obitrators in the UK has joined us here in Lagos on of the press we'll be back in the moment with our first hot topic can Nigeria export good products can we export refined products and make profits is the subsidy up or is it back