 ZELDA INFORMED BUM BUM BUM BUM Hey everybody, welcome to the Zeldinformer podcast. My name is Adam. Thank you so much for joining us on our anniversary episode. Adam, I was gonna put- I was gonna put in a sound effect, but I guess you guys took care of that, so let's thank- no, that's easy for me. Perfect. No! We have- we have some wonderful people on this week. We've got some cool topics. We've got a lot of time to spare, we're gonna talk about some things. But before we get all to- to all that, here's the news rundown from this past week. Plenty of news on Hyrule Warriors legends and Tri Force Heroes. The Pokemon Company announces a new way to penny and dime its loyal fans. Plague of Shadows gets a release date, and Sony is offering some amazing deals for the PlayStation 20th anniversary. Once again, my name is Adam. That opening theme song is brought to you by Brandon and Company, our wonderful people over across the internet ways. And this week's closing theme is once again, Here of Time Remakes by Gish. Thank you for joining us. This week, I am joined by... Hey guys, what's going on? It's me, Colin, the dude with the food. That was, that was pretty great guy. That's pretty great Colin. Hey, what's going on? It's Happy Anniversary Chris here with all the anniversaries and the hapies and the chocolate and the big teddy bears. I'm not happy or a big teddy bear, so I feel like there have been lied to. But our next guy is, it's... I am Jake and I don't know how familiar the audience is with this information, but this will be my final episode. Yeah. Yeah, Jake came into the office one morning and he got an escape board and he was like, whatever. And I was like, Jake, you can't escape. I floofed my hair and I told him he's too establishment for me. And then he broke out the window, did a kickflip with my sideways hat and 90 sunglasses with a boombox on my shoulders. Playing Nirvana or something. He gave me a kiss. He's like, you stay well, kid. A lot seems to have happened within like five seconds. Jake jumped out of a window while carrying a boombox on a skateboard, wearing sunglasses, playing Nirvana, kissing Chris on the cheek, said a few kind words to him and also scoffed at me. It is the only way to appropriately take care of something like that. Compared to freaking Caleb who just like later. Yeah. Actually, we got an email from whatever fans, I guess the first fan topic. Dear Adam, I miss Caleb. I miss his deep, sultry, ever-disappointed voice. It makes me blush. Please can you get him to come back on? Thanks. Sincerely, Austin. Thank you, Austin. But Caleb has also said whatever. Sadly, he is no longer a part of the podcast. We have parted ways. Don't worry. We don't hate each other. We're not, we're not like, it wasn't like a bad breakup or anything. Same thing with Jake. We're all Game Grumps circuit 2013. Yeah, we're not, we're not, we're not. We are, we are on good terms. I still, I still am planning on hanging out with Jake. Often seeing Caleb when he is around because he lives far away. That's mentioned. Everyone has some pretty great content planned. Yes, yes. We're just, we're busy with different things. Jake and Caleb, you guys want to just, you know, go your own way and you know, it's probably fine. Dude, you just, yeah. Speaking of own ways, I can't definitively say, and I know this is, this is a little like post-episode stuff, but I guess it's good to get it all out now. I don't know definitively what the future holds, but I can tell you that I am halfway through my first ever video. What? Oh, nice. Oh, yeah. That's crazy. So if you want to find out when I, when I do that, you can follow me on, are you guys ready for this? Are you guys ready? I've never done this before. Oh, man. You guys can follow me on Twitter. I forgot my Twitter name. So I'll tell you. It'll be down below. It'll be Jake's Twitter. I made a Twitter in 2011. Like when I was a senior in high school and I never used it. And then I saw like three years later it got hacked by some Russian guy. So you guys can look forward to seeing all of my tweets from 2012 that are all in Russian. It's just a wall. I don't know who I'm following. Who's following me, but man. It's some pretty interesting stuff that's all in Russian. I found out because like I got email updates from Twitter and I usually never check my, you know, my spam email or whatever. And all my like emails from Twitter were in Russian. So I was like, oh dear. You think this person would be smart enough to change the email? What's going on guys? So I go in and sure enough. But yeah, if you want to see some Russian tweets, follow me on Twitter, I guess. Well, I guess for now they're Russian. For now, I mean, I'll start posting English, hopefully. Hopefully, maybe. It's undecided. He's still... I've gotten a little used to it. I don't know. I think Russian might be here to say it. Farsi is in the future, possibly. All right. If anything, just send Jake your letters and your, you know, your manuscripts and such. Anyway, we'll take a look at his study. Yeah, but that's the news. Follow them on Twitter. Follow them. Plus the podcast, because they're both of you guys are wonderful. And it was so nice to have you guys with us. It was so nice to be able to chat with you in this setting and spend more time with you. I'll get very sappy about the podcast towards the end. Yeah, we have a full episode. Yeah, this is our anniversary episode. So it's pretty much a year in review. Post Adam. Oh man, this is the last time I get to do this. Hey, Post Adam. Put in some some 1950s post grunge covered by an 80s band. 1950s post. And also an air horn. What does that even mean? Do my best. If you find me something, maybe. I really appreciate it. I will do my best. Just hit your keyboard and put it in the sound cloud and it'll just come up. Wonderful. So what have you guys been playing recently? Metal Gear, Metal Gear. Sonic 3 and Knuckles. Metal Gear. And Metal Gear. Wonderful. I want to say I honestly have not played a game this last week just because I've been working a lot on a lot of different things. However, I was watching video game footage. I did watch a Let's Play or two of the Japanese version of the 3DS port of Dragon Quest 8. And I made me very jealous that they have it out now. So I'm hoping they make a localized version for next year. They won't. Don't say that. It's all ours. You think they care? You think they want us to have fun? I mean, I don't know. I really hope so. But as soon as I'm done with this project I'm working on, then I'm going to get back to Metal Gear and get past my 5% done. I've also been playing Metal Gear. Sonic 3 and Knuckles is a ruse. I've been playing a lot of Metal Gear. I wish I was playing Sonic 3 and Knuckles. It's gotten to the point where when I'm not playing Metal Gear Solid 5, I'm just leaving it on so I can develop stuff. So I'm on my 3DS replaying Snake Eater. You're just surrounding my GMA. You know what I'm saying? I need my fill. What am I going to do? I'm going to play Peace Walker on the PSP. I'd rather bring my hands. Why don't you play in that Metal Gear Life, Peace Walker? I do own the HD version of Peace Walker. Then don't play it on the PSP. I know, but it's one of those rare times where I'm like, yeah, dude, play the remake. It's way better. I can't just pick up my PS3 and play it at Applebee's. Okay, I got a... Do the transferring. Don't you really like DaVita? Excuse you. Listen, if I wanted to play with a corpse, I wouldn't. I still don't ground zeroes. I haven't played it yet. I was about to ask, what have you been playing this week? I have been playing Nets of the Republic 2, The Sith Lords, because I finally had money to get a $10 game on Steam. That's a lie, Adam. You've been playing Shelf Builder 2015. Oh, yeah. I did a lot of... I felt pretty proud of myself. I did a very unnerdy thing for once. You've been playing Tonka Construction on PC. I actually had a question about your... the way you arranged your, you know, your happy home designer house, Adam, your room. Why did you put like the shelf areas, like to put things in towards the bed instead of towards your desk? Well, I'm using the back... Interesting design choice actually. I'm actually using the shelf, like the backside, as a place to put like soundproof padding to make the podcast sound nicer. That's what I thought. And the shelf side, I'm using as like a bed desk area. So I have this like... So you put your computer there while you're watching Netflix laying down and trying to fall asleep? Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. I have like two little desk areas now. So it's pretty cute. So, you know, that's funny. But yeah, it's great because, you know, this episode's going to be kind of a little more relaxed. You know, we're going to strafe away from our usual topic of video games to talk about video games, you know? Yeah. I was going to get really mad because you said strafe away from video games. I was like, that's why I'm here, man. I don't want to talk about life. We're not going to talk about one series of video games. We're going to talk about multiple series of video games. Jake. Yeah. I believe it's the last time. We're also going to talk about the next year. This is going to be kind of an open question to you guys, the fans. And if you have your answers, leave them down below. All right. If you want to send us by email or you want to send us some topics, theme songs, emissions or anything like that, please send that to us at zeldinformerpodcast.gmail.com. Once again, that's zeldinformerpodcast.gmail.com. Let's get back to the episode. Plugs. So the reason I was really excited about playing Night Story of the Public 2 was the fact that it has like the restored content mod. Which is awesome. That's only for PC, right? Yeah. Yes. Because, I mean, you can get it on your console versions, but it's a lot more difficult because it's like modding consoles. Yeah. And strange. Trying to make a mod. But it's awesome because Steam has like offered that to us. Yeah. Yeah. They worked with the content, the restoration mod team to actually make sure it was available day one. The sad thing is that the workshop for Night Story of the Public 2 is terrible. Like otherwise, like there's this one mod to skip the tutorial level, but it's broken. There's some like other like mods like, oh, lightsaber colors and stuff, but they're all broken. Pretty much everything is broken except for that. So it's really just a way to get the restored content mod. Man, just get the full game in general. See. Yep. Is that Metal Gear? Yeah. You guys want to talk about Metal Gear? Metal Gear. Oh, I have feelings. Feel free. Well, would you like to, you know what, Colin? I guess this is, this is spoiler free Metal Gear, right? Because I'm still, like I said, 5%. Yeah, I know. Everyone. Yeah. Can I, can I, can I say the one thing that I do, do you think that's pretty funny? No. Okay, then never mind. I guess I won't. No, yes. Before you say anything just real quick, yes. It's going to be spoiler free. I hate that. It's only been out a week. Everyone suddenly thinks it's okay. No, please don't. I want to play it. Oh my, let me just say, I have a friend on Facebook who's video uploading everything to Facebook of him playing Metal Gear. I'm like, stop it. I don't like that. Yeah, stop. Yeah. I mean, I do think it's really funny. Japanese class and everyone's a weeaboo and like, ooh, Kojima, I don't like how this, this, that. I'm like, dude, shut up. Six months is, is fair for most games, but this game I- Oh, I won as a month. Just one. Just one month. Just stop posting spoilers. I'm glad that you, you three and Caleb have been very kindest and not spoiled for me. I mean, I haven't really gone too far to spoil things. So. Yeah. So Adam, you wanted to say something? Yeah, I think it's really funny how at the end of every mission it's like, you're directed by Kodeo, Kojima. Oh my God, it's like- I hate it. Every- I'm like, I get it. The game was created by Kodeo Kojima. There's credit to the end of every single thing and it always mentions Kodeo Kojima in some capacity. I really wish when they took his name off the box they took his name out of the entire freaking game because of that. Well, it's not that. It's just that it's like, it's too much to do it after every mission, am I right? Like, I think- There's two big problems that come from that. One, I- Okay, so you said you wanted an episodic story structure and that's fine. I honestly think episodic story is the best video. Yeah, it's great that you wanted to make Twin Peaks Metal Gear, but you know. Because you have smaller self-contained things and they overlap with each other. It's good. But the problem with him trying to make it episodic is that he's also spoiling it. As I'm sure you know, it's pre-release. Skullface is in the game. He's a bad dude. Yeah. I didn't expect to see him in the first mission he appears, but it says something like featuring Snake, cause guest starring Skullface. I was like, oh, I guess I'm going to see him. Next game for spoiling it. I honestly overlooked that entirely. Wait, it credits them as their characters? Yup. It's really important. It is very corny. That's weird, because now it's like putting the credits after every single mission. It puts credits before and after. It's cool for an episode thing, but as a game, it pulls you out of it a little bit too much. Especially because the game itself and previous titles in the series don't lend themselves to that idea of an episodic TV show sort of thing. There is somewhat of a movie aspect to the story of Metal Gear, but that's not it. It doesn't rely on that. It's not a video format sort of thing. There's no other reference to that sort of idea. I think the reason why they're doing it also is because every mission is designed by a completely different group of people. I get that, but it's also a little self-congratulatory. There's one mission early in the game, very early. It's not even a spoiler. You just take out a commander of a platoon or whatever, and the thing is that it acts like, okay, it says written by Hideo or whatever, but there's nothing special about the mission. If this were Peace Walker, that would be considered a side-off because that enemy commander doesn't say anything. He doesn't do anything differently from the other soldiers. He's just wearing a red beret. That's it. Well, the whole game... There's no writing. There's no nothing. To me, the game has been described multiple times as a sandbox game, like a true sandbox in a lot of ways, where the mission is there, but you're really supposed to just explore and then eventually get to the mission, which seems very odd for a tactical espionage game to make its main goal kind of like, oh, when you're ready to go to it. Usually, that's the most important thing. You take care of your main priority first. Actually, well, for me personally, I take care of the smaller things to do around the map first before I go to the main thing, because I want to try to get every... Yeah, of course. The main ops have a lot less urgency to them, which is fine. The main ops, you'll feel it a lot more. A lot more pressure in the way. That's good. To me, the idea of how people have described it to me without spoiling anything is that it sounded like your main op doesn't matter or doesn't seem that vital in comparison to all the stuff you can do around the world. It's the only thing that will push the story forward. Of course. Espionage, especially tactical espionage, is very time-limited stuff. It should be very high pressure. You should feel like every moment counts. You miss a second and someone could die. That's the sort of thing. It shouldn't be like, well, this guy's getting tortured, but he could stand being tortured for another eight hours. They do have that aspect though, because they give you a time cycle. You have a certain amount of time to do something at night, a certain amount of time to do things during the day. This isn't necessarily a spoiler, but to get D-Dog, you have to be at a mission at a certain point of day and night to get him or else he's not going to be there. That's more like being there. It's almost like Animal Crossing-E, where it's like a time window that you can do a certain event. There's time windows where you can, let's say you need to assassinate someone, you need to go save someone. There's one mission where I had to go in and get this one character around who I wanted to take with me to Mother Base, but I'm like, God dang it, why isn't he just staying in this one place for this period of time? You have to act fast, or you're going to have to rearrange your entire way of how you want to do the mission. They said there's a bunch of different ways you can do this and it sort of all matters, depending on what grade you want in the end of the mission. They weren't lying. Let me tell you something. For all you new Metal Gear fans, you will probably have a better time feeling this game around than veterans, I feel. And the reason I say that is because in previous Metal Gear, if you're a veteran, you're kind of niche to wanting to never get caught, don't kill anyone. In this game, okay, Adam, you know Chris Beier. This is his first true to form Metal Gear. He's gotten consistent S-Ranks because he's just done silly stuff. It's amazing. Okay. Jake, let me be honest with you right now. This is my first real Metal Gear game. Okay. And so coming in as an outsider, it's like, I understood that a lot of the people just, you know, drink everything, just do everything quiet, don't get caught, don't kill anyone. And that worked out for the first time, and then I run out of ammunition and I can't really call in a blimp. I would call a supply drop. And then they would see me, because I'm right there. Yeah, they were on the radio like, I just saw a balloon drop. Go check it. I would never have that problem ever, and I've called in supplies in the middle of a fort. Well, I mean, I did, and I got caught. And I was like, God damn it. There was times where I'm restarting missions just trying to get the nice shifts. Hey, Chris, get good. Yeah, that's what I'm trying. So I just end up shooting half the people in the air, is that Metal Gear has never, most people see Metal Gear as being some sort of like big stealth simulator. It has never been a stealth game. It has stealth elements, but that's never been no. As someone who's played every single fucking game in the franchise, it is... As have I, go on. It's barely a stealth game. It's more like don't get caught in the cone of sight and you're good. Uh, okay. If you were to compare it to something like Thief, it's no. I mean, couldn't you make the argument that any game that tackles stealth is just about staying out of the cone of sight? Well, it's a, it's... You're... Especially in this game. This is a game where unlike other Metal Gears, if you just shoot someone loudly in the face, the game doesn't care. Well, it's... No, this game cares a lot less about that sort of thing. Yeah. It's not a sneaking... There's a distinction there, because tactical ops is, you know, it's a military thing. You know, there's soldiers, they're trying to be quiet. They're trying to, you know, prevent minimal, like, uh, incidents. You know, minimal distraction, minimal, uh, ca... casualties, that sort of thing. But it doesn't mean they don't accept that it will happen. Games like Thief, you know, you're trying at your best to literally be undetected. Games like Dishonored, you're trying to best to be literally undetected. This game, you kind of can be. And it's fine. I compare Metal Gear, though, to other games that try to do stealth. Like, uh, the Arkham series. And there are just so many subtle things that make Metal Gear a better and easier. In terms of, like, Arkham, you have to deal with the same type of game mechanics over and over and over again. Also, they're not even really in a fun way. Like, okay, so there's something that Arkham desperately needs that Metal Gear has. And it's the most simple thing in the world. Are you guys ready? I can demonstrate it right now. Are you ready? Wait, before you do, Jake, I just want to know I finished Arkham Knight. It wasn't that good. All you do is you just... just knock. Snake knocks. It completely throws off a soldier. You sneak around. It's the best thing ever. Arkham doesn't do that. So it's a lot of just sitting and waiting on, like, another precariously placed gargoyle head and just waiting for something to happen. Cause Batman... There's a lot of subtle things. Stuffing bodies and lockers hiding in lockers. The Arkham franchise relies on Batman using really cool tech and not on being clever. It's about him being clever with his amazing gadgets. It's not him being clever using a rock. It's really not. Unless it's like a super techno bat rock. Because every takedown you do in Arkham, you feel terrified because there's no way you're going to do it silently. There's a huge probability you're going to get spotted for it. It's called predator mode. You're supposed to be silent, taking them down and you're going to get caught. You're just going to get caught. I don't know. What were we talking about? There's one thing I wanted to mention. I want to wrap up the Metal Gear discussion if that's fine. Just that yeah, it's fine because Colin you mentioned this earlier how every single mission is designed by a different team. That's how a lot of games are. But you don't see every rock texture signature in a game just so that you know that Bill did it. They should be a team. It shouldn't be Jim and Bill and Kerry and Blake and Nancy and Drew. You can also skip the credit sequences if you just don't get into the helicopter at the end of every mission, but okay. They go to the beginning too like in the beginning segments. The credits in the end is where you credit everyone. The credits are supposed to be one solid thing in one trunk. If you are interested you can go to see that. Movies do intro credits too. But they'll also mention if they really want to a lot of games do this too. If someone works specifically on one level or one area, they'll mention it. They'll say the desert level was designed by this team. But again, it's only also if you only do it from the helicopter. If you are in the map and you just go I'm going to do this mission right now. It doesn't do either. Let me just say though this is ultimately the fans' fault for wanting Kojima's name in the box we're just going to put it all over the game. That decision had to have made long before. I know, I just thought I'd never wanted his name not on the game so much. Which means that I don't feel as bad for him that his name was taken off the box because it's everywhere else. That's what I'm saying. You zoom in on snakes like butt and it's just tattooed on the underside of the left cheek. Let me real quick because I know we want to move away from this. I have to ask though how do you guys feel now that it's all said and done, it's confirmed, it's whatever, it's here Q for Sutherland, his performance what do you guys think? It's good. 10 out of 10 it's good. I mean I never had a problem with it. It's not? This is different for me because I'm not used to the big boss's old voice. I mean putting aside all of the various theories and possible spoilers it makes sense for a big boss to have a different voice because he had a different voice and all the other Metal Gears that aren't like before like every Metal Gear after Metal Gear 1 and 2 big boss had a different voice from Snake so it makes sense that at some point his voice is going to change. I know I do get that but one thing that still throws me off is the reasoning behind it and how I don't really see where it paid off in the game they said that they wanted to have a more mature performance they wanted to do this, that, the other that only Kiefer can really pull off. Ocelot has a different voice too. Why is Ocelot a cowboy now? He's Russian, I don't understand. Troy Baker is such a better voice actor than that. He's so off putting in that game. Can I just say he's a very handsome man in that game and it gives me the vapors Ocelot was never Russian in the first place sorry to spoil like a 10 year old video game you guys I mean his allegiance is Russian the way Eva was American even though she was Chinese he's a double agent this is all in the credits of Metal Gear Solid 3 listen guys just enjoy the game MGS5 is probably the game of the year right now I'm enjoying the $60 this is a game worth that much money it's great it's fantastic Kiefer will talk about that another day I guess moving on onto a game that probably only I have played Zelda no the PS4 the PS4 finally actually has a video game worth owning and it's called Until Dawn Until Dawn? A lot of people have been crazy about Metal Gear first or Until Dawn and I chose Metal Gear and I feel like I made a bad move I bought Until Dawn to hold me over Metal Gear Solid released later that night wait does this mean you aren't into Bloodborne? I mean Dark Souls is better I never played Dark Souls that's the thing Jake I still haven't gotten Bloodborne yet but it's the next on my list after Bloodborne Bloodborne is after Bloodborne? No it's after my list it's the same game as the other Dark Souls games and the Dark Souls games are better anyway I own the other two I just haven't played them there's a reason to be like oh man there's a spin-off exclusive one on the PS4 well it's next gen I could start with that and then I'll go back and play the other games because it's not canon to the other games I want to talk to you guys about something that's been bothering me recently what's bothering you this time? Pokemon Go I don't know I'm more excited about that than a new Pokemon game 100% a micro transaction game because it says in-app purchases are in this game already I mean in-app purchases are also in fallout it didn't matter either but Adam picture this fallout 4 is a rare exception fallout shelter is a rare exception of a game that has micro transactions but doesn't really require them but I mean you also have to remember the assholes who played the game guys just picture this picture this are you picturing? y'all like gamer girls right? right I'm just going to sit out and wait for this to be relevant imagine taking a girl out on a date we're going to do something stupid and something crazy and so you're like let's go catch the pokemon around our town and you get out of your phones and then you imagine an area full of beedoof no you walk around and you because it's going to be you guys haven't heard of the app called Ingress yeah but can you imagine if your region is full of beedoof can you imagine being the kid from the beedoof region no one wants to try that imagine how funny that day would be and then it would be like wow this would be the best experience ever and be like ah sweet I mentioned this before but that game punishes people who can't go anywhere yeah that's why you go out when you're hanging out you have to be on the move that's what I'm saying because that's like can you imagine it's ridiculous to imagine someone who is able to travel a lot is able to get more pokemon in the world just because of that fact are you saying this because you don't have a car Adam I'm saying this because I'm poor I don't have a lot of money Chris Adam when we hang out we'll go on a date and go catch all 100 billion pokemon I'm just saying that like you're all a fan of the first 100 pokemon the trailer confused a lot of people because some people think this is pokemon augmented reality it is not people it is a very bland app on your phone that looks like a regular pokemon game but on your phone and it's bland that's what it is the trailer is I'm really surprised at this point because it's such it deceives people and it doesn't make at any point a disclaimer it doesn't show accurate gameplay and it doesn't disclaim any of its claims hang on a second is it a video game advertisement being completely different from the video game guys we better call Ripley's hey callen callen callen let's play a game wait are you telling me that if I unload game of war I don't get kade option in my house callen callen callen let's go watch every single video game trailer and you'll see a disclaimer underneath any area that isn't part of the actual game because there's a law in the US and prevents people from doing that from making false claims because there was a toy that came out for kids at one point that in the commercials was talking and kids cried when the toy didn't actually talk and lawsuits were filed and that was added to US law to prevent such a case from happening again so I'm actually really surprised this game trailer doesn't have any disclaimers stating that there isn't any augmented reality segments of the game and they can do it too I mean with your camera I mean whatever they could but they they aren't so they should have a disclaimer in there because people are going to assume there's so little we know about it right now that it's too it's too early to judge it we know enough that we know that but people have praised it out the butt I mean if it's good it's good I'm going to clarify you and Lyra can go out and have a blast I promise I can clarify one thing by the way you don't need to go out and have a blast you can just play Yoshi's Woolly World it's the same thing just as fun for a date night anyway Pokemon games have notoriously crazy trailers for whatever reason oh yeah with Dylan and Cole Sprouse walking on the beach oh I remember that I hated it when they said Pokemon they said Pokemon I have Pokemon heart gold version and I have Pokemon a silver version and I'm walking around on the beach getting walk points for my freaking Eevee it was so funny I still have my Poke Walker my Poke actually I think I see mine right now it's on the shelf the box that heart gold came in is such a nice box I still have my limited edition Ho-Oh that it came with I can show you mine it's just fun he wants to show you his Ho-Oh either way I was saying something earlier I just forgot was it about Pokemon I want to talk about their marketing about the trailer I like how they only use Pokemon from the first 150 that was a very smart decision that was very smart that's how you appeal to more than just the current Pokemon fans but older ones as well because most people know the first 150 everyone knows who fans to Selja everyone already knows those anyway I'm sure over time they'll probably expand who's going to be willing to shell out money for an external device that connects to your smartphone 30 something year olds and 20 something year olds not 10 year olds, not 12 year olds they might get one but they're not going to be able to sell oh my god this is terrible what if they have like a connection between Pokemon Go and NX because of Android rumored software have you guys read the leaked the leaked information for the NX? I did not dislike it I was very are you talking about the patent thing that could be the NX or could just be a dislist not the patent specifically there was a guy you got to take it with a grain of salt someone who apparently works with Nintendo Japan was under strict NDA but they kind of anonymously leaked a bunch of features of the NX and it is not going to be as powerful as the PS4 allegedly it'll be close, it'll be close to the specs it makes me cry that's the one thing I want from Nintendo but it's going to do something interesting it's going to take like the idea of a gamepad and kind of kind of they kind of want to fuse together the home console and handheld where you can basically stop and start a game and then go take a handheld and continue playing it on your day to day basically imagine you're playing Smash Wii U or let me find a better example say you're playing Splatoon and then you just take your gamepad but just leave the house with it and just keep playing I want my 3DS for that I don't want to have to take my gamepad that's the thing, it's both parts like handheld, all the handheld games apparently want to work on the console too and vice versa it's basically just the aspect ratio issues yeah, it's a remote play basically I don't know it's all integrated I guess you weren't here when we were talking about the whole like this whole NX thing hatred of the Wii U I don't hate the Wii U, I just wish it was more like a traditional Xbox, Playstation type of thing with solely it was just as powerful those consoles had a great controller, also had gamepad and 3DS support and then Bill I don't hate the food that you cooked, I just wish it was pizza no, I don't wish anything was pizza, yeah pizza's the enemy right now I'm sorry I just a lot of people's fears are being suspected though that they're ready to abandon the Wii U and that's disappointing that is cause like there are a lot of people who are on the fence about getting one now and now they've jeopardized future sales cause it's like well why would I get a Wii U now when the NX is coming, yeah that was pretty dumb idea and they're moving games too they said they were I won't be surprised if Zelda U moves to the NX I won't be surprised I don't know how I feel about it I want there to be more support for the Wii U I bought one this last year for a reason to get games for it and I've gotten a lot of the big games that came out you know Splatoon, Smash Bros Mario Kart 8, looking forward to Mario Maker then they said making the Mario's but playing the Mario's that's coming out this weekend doesn't it yeah, very excited for that Colin are you excited for it? for Mario Maker? yeah I'll pick it up when it's on sale I don't know $60 is really I thought it was going to be like $50 nope though I'm going to be honest I wish there was a handheld version 3DS version of Mario Maker on the NX you would be able to do that I don't know if I said this I got a 32GB SD card from my 3DS and it was the best decision of my life I have a 64GB you know what, dude just get out here shut up you don't need that I have a 64GB also God I hate you guys get good thanks Best Buy for screwing up that one time and listing all your Samsung SD cards for $1 man Best Buy always wants to sell me a phone it gets to a point where I get nervous if I'm anywhere near Best Buy employee did you tell me you have a phone I mean I do hey I have you take out your phone to make a phone call talking about how much you love your phone right in front of them and they still try to sell you a new one I feel bad because they have to make sales, that's their job they have to do that or they don't have a job anymore Jake I just heard you get older and you get telemarketers calling you'd be like listen sonny I already have insurance a telemarketer calls you and you pretend to also be a telemarketer you know what I love to do with telemarketers and especially uh scams on the phone is I will kinda like I'll kinda play with them a little bit I'll make them think that I'm gonna like lock down especially if it's a scam I'll be like that sounds like a you're gonna send me a car what I would and like in the middle of my sentence I hang up like the phone disconnected wow I always um so they like scream inside the telemarketer people especially the ones that are always like sir I work for windows and we detected a virus through your router I always I always love to go through the various processes and go like hey do you know how computers actually work and then hang up it's funny cause my grandfather who's an old man he got a phone call like that at one time and I swear to God he I wouldn't he was cursing at the wild do it this guy over the phone he hung up he's like he says the words I can't say on the podcast but I'm like dang like he doesn't even know like those guys are either joking or trying to just get super things he just got so furious like furious what was it like telemarketers it was like no the the virus on through your router oh that is speaking of viruses and stuff did you guys see and I hate to get political but did you see that the guy who made McAfee is running for president great everyone everyone's running for president wait who's running you know the guy you know McAfee the virus program uh yeah he's the guy who made it is running McAfee yeah I've said McAfee for the longest you guys that Norton virus protection is running for president it's true my dad works for a past anyway AVG's also you know it's just funny he said like I could probably win the president presidential election like never getting out of my bed like I can't believe Donald Trump actually has a has a shot at all this I'm sorry to get political with you all man Donald Trump he's a silly guy anyway you know Huffington Post doesn't report him under news anywhere they report him or they don't report him under politics they report him under entertainment wait who Donald Trump it's absurd anyways back to video games back to video games democracy 3 is a great game damn it that's politics still oh I was thinking I thought you were making a sieve reference Adam G's no that would be followed by weeping hey you know what I think we should do because it is the last episode that I'm here for what I think we should talk about at least something Zelda let's get into one of our fan topics then let's talk about Majora's mask let's do I'm kidding unless the topic is that we could talk about the news that toonling is playable and Hyrule Warriors legends but I really don't care we could talk about the can I just say I'm looking forward to the 3DS version of Hyrule Warriors yeah we talked about the same call an enemy we're talking about this beat him up on the go hack him slash on the go it will let me transfer my save data and I have the money at the time I played through the whole thing again I didn't get the first one so I'm excited about it dude that's too much time listen if they like tomorrow suda51 was like oh we're gonna port lollipop chain saw the pc I'd play the whole thing again I mean I get that it's just I don't know same thing with like god hand like if they let you carry over your save and that would be great if they did I would just love that one of the things that I was happy about that I saw that it was all related Triforce Heroes is gonna have a map like four swords adventures which is perfect it's literally it's literally the perfect like successor to four swords adventures now like I have no more complaints at all who said they weren't excited for it was that Jeff uh yeah yeah and Jeff is Jeff is wrong Jeff is wrong if you're listening to this go to suldenformer.com Jeff's latest article and tell him he smells and say love and write and write love adam say jeff you smell love adam you know it's funny I someone linked me to a amnesia post today about the pokemon thing um and I saw who wrote it it was jeff I'm like oh I'm like you know I know the guy who wrote this like oh how I'm like you should listen to my podcast with that can I just say that Jeff it's okay uh anyway let's get to one of our fan topics Thomas asks if there was a game where you played as Ganondorf what would it be about what genre of game would it be and what would the story be like it would be an RPG it'd be called dragon quest Ganondorf edition and then you would just dude get friends and then you beat dragons you remember Hyrule Warriors it'd be like that it'd be god hand it would be a it would be a mythical power simulator where you it'd be god war kind of yeah pretty much oh that'd be awesome what if Ganondorf was like the video game embodiment of Donald you know what it'd be a cooking mama clone and uh yeah cooking he cooks up some trouble mama next question wow even better than mama uh I do like the idea of like a god of war esque thing where you know he's like slowly getting more powerful as like a dark lord as he defeats oh he has he has to fight the other like how yes yes no he has to fight like let's say like there's other people that are vying to be like the print like the king of darkness or whatever and oh I thought I thought the whole idea of god of war was like they fight well yeah I mean he can't fight like it can't be bad he can't fight like he can't fight like for war and like rados can you imagine him pummeling for war in the face relentlessly that would be horrible I would horrible in the eyes of I wouldn't say it um that would be you but yeah I can imagine him like fighting other like suitors for like the throne of darkness and he's like solely gaining their power as well like kind of like mega man but with with that's just sounds like a wrestle mania match like it's him and he's trying to get the brief yeah so so instead of hitting them he's not really hitting them he just kind of like fake hits oh that'd be cool like a wwe port like for the we you and it's just like a dlcs gandorf that would be awesome it'd be wrestling but it'd actually be entertaining for once yeah I always used to say that the wrestling games are actually like more real than a oh they are and they're more entertaining they are because like they're not faking stuff up there I punch dude in the blood he has a hitbox I mean I'm actually excited I'm excited to get 2k16 I've never been excited to get a wrestling game ever I love I've only gotten one I got the ones for the n64 but like now I'm excited to get 2k16 and it was not good wait are those games still have like creator and wrestler yeah yeah they do yeah well they said that 2016's version is going to be a lot better because 2015 sucked 2014 we should get that game and then make our own wrestlers and make our weird creations fight to the death I used to love customizing the undertaker's costume so he wore a pink leotard that's him I think uh but I think we may have a fan topic maybe yeah there's an answer in there I'm sure thank you Tom it's wrestling it's a wrestling simulator also thank you thank you thank you Thomas for sending us your email if you have any of your own topics theme song submissions artwork anything like that set it to us once again it's Eldenformerpodcast at gmail.com we'd love to read them we'll try our best to give you an answer despite a lot of goofiness so yeah do you guys want to answer another yeah man I like this roll alright let's get on the roll hey guys and if any gals there are none how are you all today good I hope my question is what new items or weapons would you like to see or even return in future Zelda games I would like to see another ball and chain weapon that you can swing and crush enemies maybe a chain whip weapon that grabs an enemy and swing around them even Martin thank you Martin for sending us your topic I like it's not an item necessarily Jake you missed the first part of the question how are you today Jake you're doing well darn it's been a hard week it's actually been pretty rough lately but whatever I'm doing okay and I want the duck walk to come back from Zelda CDL I have a thing I have a quick thing so like you know how in Ocarina of Time you could switch like your boots and your tunics and your swords and your shields you could switch your hats and then you can get an Eslo hat and that would be great why did we even ask you Chris we already know the answer at this point why are you talking like that in the 90s you mean like Billy Madison or whatever the heck his name is yeah Billy that was his name yes thank you that was a good move let's bring back Billy Madison it's an item to play as Billy Madison he needs to be an equipable partner with the golf club I want a Doyle you need to watch out you need to go eye over there no but uh bring back the camera where they should do is every photo you take with the camera because I know the camera is in a few games you should be able to post like photos in your house I do love the selfie from Windmaker I would bring back selfies from Windmaker like pin them against like wherever Link stays or where he stay at but wherever like all the photos he's ever taken or like a certain amount of them that's kind of cool I kind of missed the magic meter and a lot of the 3D Zelda's haven't had them in a while Twilight Princess didn't do it, Skyward Sword didn't do it I miss them I don't know whatever they were cool, they made you feel more enchanted magic was important instead of just arsenally I don't know I want more I like fire arrows, I like ice rods I love the fire rod and ice rod, those are cool those are cool items I want stuff like that also I want the hook shot to stop being awful like no because I hate I don't, okay you're shooting a harpoon into someone's head and it makes them go I can't move for a little bit guys just give me a second here I'ma get you in a little bit I feel like the hook shot would make a lot more sense I had hooks on the sides you shoot at someone and it hits them in the head Adam if I harpooned you in the head would you I would have a concussion or be dead I think would you turn blue for a little bit and then 4 seconds pass you're like Jake that wasn't very nice I'm gonna approach you I would turn blue and never get up I'm gonna approach you no degrees weapons a harpoon what I fear is my special guy what if they make weapon amebos that like power up your weapons as a game I have feelings about amebos now I have feelings about jakes amebos can I give everyone a suggestion just move to disney infinity at this point it's better amebos Adam be quiet I actually own two or I own a lot of disney infinity but you can find them you can find all of them that's my whole that's my whole thing right but like they're so cheap they broke like I have two of them that broke in half like the characters they still work like the little paths but the characters look nice they make me very mad no they're broken Adam they broke there's no better way to put it they suck while we're on the topic can I just mention I can totally see the the game and watch ones snapping constantly because I doubt that those are going to be any better than the current ones there's going to be like they're probably going to be a little more prone to destruction yeah but Chris you had something you wanted to tell the world I did I actually wanted to tell everyone sorry so alright I'm a user of the social media platform called snapchat right you know I have friends on there I have people like Adam people like Jake and people like Caleb so I haven't opened this app in a while and so I opened it up and I go see if anyone's added me and I see oh my good friend Jake has added me on snapchat let me click and accept it says oh I have two snaps they were from me they were from from Larry yeah I also had a Jake's girlfriend and I had two snaps oh let me check the first one but I forgot what it was but let me tell you the second one this second one was great now we all know Jake has an amiibo up session just a little bit it's starting to fan down a little bit but go on right I guess this this had to be at its peak I opened this snapchat and lo and behold I see a ring of amiibos all facing towards what seemed to be a menacing naked Jake and I I just couldn't help but like gas I couldn't say oh my I was naked and I was posing very like sadistically in front of them and Lyra took a picture of it and sent it to a few people most of them saved it so now that's included guilty as charged no you saw it like I said you read it sometimes snapchat has issues where it says that I should like it got to my maybe I just blocked it from my memory at this point I don't even know I can't even remember it but it doesn't sound out of place you can send it to Adam I just had them all line up on the table and face me yeah after that moment I knew them in there Jake was the amiibo king he was the amiibo king please everyone note down he has a headdress made of amiibos that was the what did you say the emperor had no clothes have you heard that tale I'm not going to tell it but you yeah that was the emperor's drapes do match his curtains that's my amiibo story for the day and let me just say during my year on the podcast I've said a lot of stories a lot of which I regret but this is one I I just don't regret saying at all do you have a podcast regrets now well my only one and only podcast regret that I know I just I don't know why I ever did this I opened up with some stupid story about a squirrel jumping to a leap oh yeah that was the first time I met you yeah and I'm like why did I mention that during a podcast that was like and then I never let it go yeah and then Adam's like Chris the squirrel story guy and I'm like it's great but besides that it's great being on this podcast is awesome just listening to our dynamics is great you guys are awesome I met Jake through this I will say this when I met Jake in person because we met on this podcast where we've been in person that was it was a little surreal in a way I was like this is great and Jake just looks to me like Chris get out of my house it was interesting doing that live show together because it was weird just watching you talk because I have the suspension of reality which is you're somewhere else I'm in my room just talking to my mic I can't look at you when I discreet but I can look at you and throw in the eyes when I really understand what you're saying watching you guys record is super cute because you guys are cute thanks bud thanks Adam since we're talking about our early podcast days let's do a few more do we have any more fan topics before I get into that no that's it for this week but if you have any of your own please send them to us because we could use more fan topics all the time forever that's just how it works I guess now's as good a time as any to say a few things about the show Chris just mentioned how his first time here he became the squirrel guy like 0 to 10 it just happened not to mention I had to I even went along saying maybe I should say why I'm supposed to be on this podcast instead of acting natural I didn't need to do that either I could have just said whatever on the first episode I did I also hit something that followed me for a little bit when I got on it was the second episode and I was pretty nervous about it it was Adam I think Colin and Nate and all of you guys and all of you guys were like I'm Adam I'm host, I'm a copy and editor and everyone said their thing I was just like I'm literally some guy I think that's the best description I thought of that I looked back on it it was a very genuine statement but the thing is it was at the time if you listen to that first episode technically the second, my first you'll hear a lot of nervousness when I talk you'll hear maybe very safe with my opinions up until I talk about Destiny because I didn't like Destiny the many times we talked about Destiny I've always sort of let myself hey Jake did you hear that they're releasing a full game called Destiny like next week it's all come full circle actually wait are they releasing another game called Destiny? no it's Destiny it's Destiny with everything so it's not just like Destiny wait till I'm finished we're just gonna release whatever they released all the DLC with it, that's cool but anyways I was pretty safe with the opinions I was very nervous and over time that sort of went away I am really thankful for this show because it gave me something that I never had before it gave me a place to I don't know I guess get over my stage fright and I got to it gave me a lot of confidence my opinions and my ability to talk with people and I got to I didn't say a lot of popular things all the time I remember everyone lost their mind when Majora got a remake and I was like guys no this is not a good thing you know like and yeah we played it we got through it, it was great still like the original more and like god I remember that too we had, we pretty much discovered that we were like oh let's talk about Majora's Mask a week later oh Majora's Mask is coming on 3DS we've been through a lot of bumps be careful to keep you on Jake no and I still remember the first time I got a positive comment on the show dude it still stays with me it was an episode I wasn't on people think that it doesn't matter when they say things to us comments don't matter we don't read the comments and I hate some people because they don't really I don't know, I get mad and I do that thing, they say never read the comments but we do you kind of have to I guess once you get to a certain level we're still a family you're still like a tight-knit group with us there's like less than 20,000 of you that listen to this every week it's not like it's hard to listen to the comments, the people that do comment, there's so few of you why not, why not explore and interact and see what's going on the few episodes we've had hundreds of comments, I'm like wow that's amazing in comparison I know there's people that get millions 100 comments to me is like 10 comments, 10 comments to me is amazing I think there was one letter that you got that some guy said Chris, you're great and I'm like, that's awesome and all the countless the few tweets that Adam you and I get the people that messaged us on Twitter, it's so sweet and they just talk about it and they talk about how much they love you guys I've gotten several emails and I've showed Jake every single one that it comes in saying that they love Jake or that they love Chris despite what everyone says about Chris, sorry Chris we're so mean to you all the time and people saying they love Caleb all the time and you guys the ones, the few of you that feel like hey maybe I should say something nice give something, it matters it matters so much, it gets me through my week I recognize names even yeah we get excited I know Colonel Madrura, I know I know Austin I know Jacob from Texas don't think I don't know you man, I know you're out there Jacob from Texas, good guy, Adam from Missouri is going to bring you guys Adam from Missouri I know Becca, I know there's one dude that follows me and should know he tweets it's been more than words can describe you know I even remember some of our deeper talks that go beyond video because like we have a bonus episode that we never uploaded Adam may, it's completely up to him I'm going to upload it eventually it's up to you if you do or don't but it's me, him and Jeff and you know that was a very when we were waiting for Yacht Club Games dude Nick was because they were busy and he genuinely he forgot they were busy getting amiibo I think it was a time zone issue and also he was really busy that day it was crazy and when you eventually hear that it's a very real candid talk between the three of us and I like when we got to do that because we also, because people one of the more negative comments I see frequently is when we stray from Zelda and people are like stick to Zelda like the time we talk about Skyrim or people calling us fanboys for companies that aren't Nintendo and things like that it's not like there's Zelda things to talk about 24% we played other games honestly like but sometimes there's, that's all it is it's like it's an update and it's nice to appreciate that but sometimes I feel like as viewers you deserve so much more than just a zelt like you deserve a genuine discussion you deserve a genuine conversation things that matter to you as a gamer things that will matter to you in years to come you know if something big happens in gaming that isn't exactly fun to talk about like you know there was almost a shooting at the pokemon world like that matters that matters so much more how to like yeah I don't it's something we've known was going to happen it's something that we could figure was going to happen you know it's not something that you know you as a fan will need to hear us talk about more than it happened there are some things that we need to do discuss which is you know how the the economy and social order of video game as an industry and as a movement will change over the next couple of years how it will change for the next couple of months you know what you can expect from companies what we think you know companies should be doing or shouldn't be doing how we think that you guys you know should save money because you know a lot of people are out there to try and get get into your wallet now and we're trying to you know make sure that you guys aren't making it yeah do you guys see that Deus Ex nonsense with the augmentia preorder yeah don't buy Deus Ex don't invest in that do not give them a dime I honestly think though that it even further like with the fact that you guys come to us like for this like however many of you because there's so many like you come to listen to us for all the stuff like we try to put on like the best show we possibly can like because we know like we oh god I was watching like we don't I'm sorry Chris no no go ahead no you know podcast or they're long you know they're they're just it's I'll be real if you guys I don't typically listen to podcast in my free time because it's just two hours of you know whatever which probably doesn't sound good because I'm saying that I'm on a podcast but I don't know like I you know it's different on this end we spend more time creating content that we do absorbing it because we're busy creating it yeah yeah honestly like that's that's the real thing is like I would love to spend more time I used to listen to like a few podcasts before now I do this one and I can't I haven't listened to most of the stuff I used to listen to for like a year now and the things that influence this show things that I think you know like the Rooster Teeth podcast heavily influenced my opinion of how they sort of think should go how they should feel how they should flow the the amount of people that should be on it and even since that first episode that me and Colin did a year ago and we didn't know what we were doing and we tried our best to try and make something interesting and funny and interesting we've tried our best to make you guys as fans feel like you know you're part of the conversation that you feel like you guys are getting something that's worth your time that we feel proud to put out there and just I will say Adam I just want to say like just because I'm so Adam is the the host the editor the plans of everything pretty much and he'll just come to us like hey guys this is the plan for this week we're like okay um it's it has been really fascinating kind of watching you grow since day one to here because I don't think many people in the audience know like the reason why I came on the show is Adam asked me as a favor because I had a good mic in a way and he knew good enough yeah he knew I had a good mic no no not just that but like he knew I did something in that content I knew he's an avid gamer and we've known each other for a couple years now like yeah Adam and I actually we went to high school with each other yeah so and just seeing it all like you from way back when to like now is honestly it's and our friendship kind of grew as a result I think you know it's yeah this is oh the nice nice we've had at Denny's and like just the crazy coffee chase and I feel like me and Jake as friends have grown me and Colin as friends have grown and Caleb especially you know we I can't say something on Caleb's behalf because as I've grown to know him he's a bit of a complicated to read sort of person but what I can say about him on the show is he especially in response to that first fan topic he really enjoyed you know like being able to do this and talk and you know hearing that feed he loved you guys I think Caleb's favorite thing was voicing his opinion and everything like he did such a great job overall I think of most people Caleb is known for having varied out there opinions about games and the fact that you guys were so welcoming and warm to him it was it was so sweet and I'm so happy because you know it's good that he was recognized for you know having a I guess I could say good opinion about games you know every almost almost every opinion about games is good except for the ones that aren't sure but you know like just the idea that you know like it's nice to know that you know this is kind of a space where people can be honest and they can be open they don't have to lie to you and you know pretend that they care I mean Adam I take back everything I said I hate you oh no the honesty it's gone or it's here I guess just getting back to the talking about the show I mean there are even some episodes where we talked about some pretty you know complicated real human fear you know like feelings and emotions like I remember it was a very early episode like probably right around the time the suicide episode it was the suicide episode where we talked about you know like I don't think we should title it the we talked about suicide there and you know we got kind of real with the audience and we you know we talked about you know if you're feeling these kinds of things you know you're not alone and I know like we got a healthy number of responses about you know yeah we really did I felt really warm you know like I was just talking from I feel warm right now talking about my feelings oh I'm about it don't get to feel warm this often and it's kind of it's really I'm about to actually talk about some real feelings right now go for it tell me you love the show I won't get too deep into it because there's a level of appropriateness you have to keep beginning of this year I was about January 4th I found out my dad had cancer and it sucks it's still an ongoing battle when I found out my life started to I handled it about as well as you can probably handle that and I remember there was one week that it was right as it happened Adam didn't have me scheduled for the show and you know I was being huffy and puffy and whatever and you know he took it upon himself to make it a 5 person episode because you know that's not easy because it's fun enough editing 4 people he was like he did 5 because like I didn't want that to bring me down you know it sucks when you have real problems happen the world doesn't stop turning but the thing is that you can't let it stop turning for you you have to keep going you have to you can't let things bring you down I know it sucks so much when something hits you like a ton of bricks and you're just supposed to keep going but it's good to keep pressing yourself and I'm honestly appreciative that he gave me the chance to get on that weekend you know he's there's one thing that I've ever learned the brief amount of time that I've been alive is that no matter what people say no matter how talented other people may be no matter how smart people may be in comparison to you and that's fine to accept that you know some people will be smarter some people are not talented I'm not the best audio editor I'm not the best podcast host maybe I'm not even the best creative but the thing is that you know you never you never give up you know if there's but if there's ever a stat in D&D that I would say that you know I ever invested my points into the most it's you know willpower it's it's constitution the ability to keep going forward despite all the hardships that you face the ability to keep marching on and never let the things that are heavy bear down on you because if you do then they win and you have nothing to show for it and I think that if you keep pushing you know and if you keep fighting for the next day you'll have that next day and that's something that no one can take from you if you keep fighting then you've won in a way you've won and I just hope that everyone does that because you know I've done some stupid things I did an episode episode 17 or 16 was our like Hanukah episode and I said some stupid I voiced my opinion in some stupid ways I made made a fool of myself I've made a fool of myself in several ways our E3 episode I made a fool of myself I've made a fool of myself I just wanna say it I insulted my friends I've been bitter behind the scenes I've been crass and harsh not to say that we haven't done the same to you but it's still you know it's it's fine we're growing and everyone's together and that's just part of getting better learning from things like that and if I had stopped if I was when I got the flu in episode 16 and I stayed in bed like I should have I would have let the flu in if I had given in and you know like slept that night when I got back from LA after E3 I would have let that flight win I would have let you know all the the exhaustion and stuff and if I if I let you know work or finals weeks from school if I let that get in the way and said oh this week I can't do the podcast if I went out with friends and I came back and it was four in the morning and I still had some editing to do and if I decided to go to bed or something I would have done you guys a disservice and I would have done myself a disservice because I would have given up and that's something that I and I hope you guys never do never do it because once you do that then for you know there's there's two different kinds of people that you'll find find online there's the people that make content that's really amazing and they do it for like a month or two or even a few months and then they just disappear they just gave up it was too much work and they couldn't handle it but they made some amazing stuff and then you'll find people like Markiplier who's been doing his stuff for like five something years now and at first he wasn't great at first he was kind of terrible but he's been doing it for a long time and he keeps pushing himself and he keeps doing more and he keeps working harder and he keeps exploring his own ideas and he kept pushing himself but and he eventually you know became one of the biggest let's players on YouTube and he's doing very well right now because he never gave up despite the fact that he never was big despite the fact that you know he wasn't the best he wasn't the most talented he didn't have the most potential but he kept pushing on and he found himself and he never said I can't so if this year of podcasts or terrible opinions my stupid opinions about 3D games has taught you anything it's never never give up never say no never say I can't because when you do you really can't there are a lot of times this year I wanted to give up on things like I said earlier finding out that news about my dad was a huge gut punch and because not 4 days before that I made a new year's resolution that every week I was going to go out and try to find something I've never done before and capture the moment and then 4 days into it I find out this and you know I wanted to give up immediately on myself and I'm almost done I'm almost done with my resolution you can't let as Adam said earlier I'm sure there are a lot of people who are listening right now who are going through something but do you want that to be what defines you one of my favorite lines from any show any medium I've ever heard ever is actually from Parks and Rec and it's Chris Traeger the best human being alive and he looks to Andy and he says how we handle tragedy defines who we are as people you can't let this moment deflate you you just can't you have to pick yourself up and dust yourself off and find out what your next step is and yeah that's really funny I look at this really interestingly so like yourself Jake please like yourself so last year my aunt was diagnosed with a breast cancer I can't figure that we'll get ready for the sex part so the week before we did the live episode she actually passed away and so I was up in I was in Orlando for the purpose of her funeral we didn't call her funeral we called it a celebration of life yeah and so two weeks prior to that a week before she passed actually had a conversation with her because I was up there again seeing her and I remember telling her like because she had always heard about the things I do online and you know like anything from cartoons to the podcast to you know the video game stuff and I was I wanted to tell her more because I got like a PA job for a web series that I did for two months and I didn't get to tell her about everything in detail but I was able to tell her some things I told her the next time I'm up I'll tell you all about it because I had to go and you know I didn't get to tell her before she before she passed away and so I always knew that like you know everyone said like she was so interested she was so like you know I guess I took it for granted in a way and kind of made me think like well now's the time where I have to kind of get crunch time I can't just like let go just because I wasn't able to you know keep up with her in that sense like I gotta keep working harder just to make sure that like she knows that this is what you know I love doing this is this is it like this is pretty much everything I do just like even though she's not here anymore I won't be able to express it to her I'm gonna make it my goal to do everything I can to make sure that somehow some way she knows exactly what I'm doing she knows how I'm doing it she knows I'm spreading good messages and all this great stuff and maybe one day later on in my life I'll be able to tell her this and you know it'll be cool she knows because you know exactly uh so so Colin I just do you have feelings at all Papa John yes I will say this Colin you know why I agree with you it's because I actually have a job at a pizza place outside of the internet world and uh I will say I will say agree with that statement uh it's not I want to I want to talk about one more thing before we wrap this episode up um it's it's it's it's about the podcast again it's a moving forward what we're gonna be doing uh we're in talks right now nothing is set in stone yet uh but Jeff and I have been talking to our bosses about the idea of crowdfunding um because this podcast costs money surprisingly it costs money our equipment it costs money I don't pay Jake and Chris and Jeff and Colin and such because I don't have money that's why my voice sounds like poo if I did I would if I did I would give them stuff and I would have stuff and there would be stuff everywhere that made this all sound nice and pretty um if you guys are interested in the idea of crowdfunding let us know we'd love to hear what you think if you have any ideas of what we could do maybe we could do live streams maybe we could do Skype calls maybe we could do you know a little chats or maybe we could help you with your own projects you know let us know we'd be happy to you know hear from you guys or maybe you know I could work out some art deals with you guys uh I love executive producing things because it's great and I like helping people get out there we just we want to keep being able to do this for you and I I elect to not have a job in order to do the things that I do online and even then I still find it difficult sometimes and I'm not asking I'm not begging for money but I'm just saying that if you guys think that it would be something you'd be interested in let us know because it would be nice to know that you guys would be willing to donate money here and there and you guys could get some cool stuff out of it uh but yeah I'll send you a snapchat of my butt please do not that is harassment my friend I always wanted it I mean I guess if they ask if the adults in the S4 is nice you know get a picture of the tush you know you put it on your wall and your frame it's nice frame tush it's funny I actually kind of do want to say like this whole year of producing this show has inspired me to get back into one of the very first thing I ever did on the internet I made a mid parody with a friend of mine a friend that we actually had a guest on the show he was your first guest his name was Mr. Screwits Mr. Paulson he's one of my best friends in the whole world animator after a year of not working on this stupid pilot I made for a cartoon I buckled up this last week and I got back into production you could say with it and I've been working on it really hard this entire week so and it's just because I feel like wow I'm doing the podcast and I feel motivated to do something else like it's been one year like let's see what else I can make for this next year for 2016 like it's good so yeah so now I will be going back to the cartoon that's excellent man Colin yes I was playing video games on the channel you've been working hard on that yeah hopefully we'll see more stuff from you guys in the future Colin I want to see your stuff soon yeah I know the problem is I want to see your butt Colin thanks no you don't I'm very sure I mean the problem with making web content or at least with me is that I want to do something that people haven't done but like I'm not trying to be like I'm gonna make a new inventive series that no one's ever done before it could be really artful imagine the nostalgia critic combined with the anger video game nerd yeah I don't know I don't know the best thing the internet has ever seen um that just sounds like the same it's way better than a bgm used to be I will say I do enjoy anyway let's talk about Colin's thing Colin tell us your thing um I'm gonna be trying to start the series soon I just need a good tripod and just some extra time to work on it it's gonna be kind of lengthy but otherwise Colin's gonna get lengthy um also this is something that I've been thinking about just doing on the side uh personally I I mean I can't really get the other guys to do this because they have things that they do in their life but I was thinking that I would maybe start streaming maybe I don't know I'm hesitant because I don't want to be that guy but I mean if it's something that you guys would be interested in seeing uh some other content for me on the side please let me know because I used to you know I do this to entertain you I don't do it for you know I mean it is a joy to entertain you but I do it in a way I do it so that you guys have something you guys want to see I don't want it to be something that you know you feel like is just taking up time that I could be using to make something better for you guys I'm gonna use this time to watch John Tran videos instead it's okay you run out soon and then you only have like seven months to wait in between each one so you good you don't have to go catch up I like I don't do that I've always wanted to go back to Game Grumps but I will never be able to catch up you want to know where I left off Shadow of the Colossus oh my god I will never be able to catch up I will send you a good stuff man it looks like they nuked Los Angeles or like the internet stopped working then by the way actually if it's one thing I want to throw out there that I do appreciate you guys are in a hug box like you know we said that like we appreciate all the kind things today but we also appreciate you guys being critical and voicing your concerns I appreciate when you guys say hey Chris you suck and I'm like hey hey man get on it's nice to hear when you guys say like this is disappointing or like I would like you guys to do this more and we and we're not doing something right I like when people don't like how dare you say the ps3 is a failure I'm not a Sony fanboy but I am loyal to Sony and I will sync with them all the time even though they also said that it was kind of a bad idea I like when they say wow who's this Chris guy he sucks and I'm like yeah I know well hopefully they'll hear more of this Chris guy in the future I want to thank you guys so much for joining me for this past year for all the good times the bad times and Jake I wish you and Caleb the best in your future endeavors I wish you the best today tomorrow forever Chris I hope that we can continue to work together I mean I'm always here Adam you know stuff that we're working on on the side can come to light soon Colin you're a delight you guys are some of my favorite people some of my best friends and I'm so happy that you know I was able to share this experience with you guys and I was so happy that I was able to share it with you guys as fans for those of you that have sucked with us for a year you're amazing for those of you that are joining us just now if you've joined us recently you have a year's worth of podcasts and most of them are garbage except for the ones that I want them to listen to the ones just the ones where we predicted things like two months before they end those are amazing I'm like oh my god I can't believe we didn't see this coming anyway thank you so much and I hope you Jake I love you I have one closing thought well before you say that Colin go ahead say it I just wanted to say that this weekend even though when is this podcast going up Saturday I think it's going to be too late but I will be at mag classic the entire weekend so if you can if you can actually plan this yeah if you somehow are listening to this Saturday and you're not just somehow face in the middle of the Hilton in Virginia come find me and we can talk about code names you can tell you all of my dirty secrets but yeah thank you so much now Jake the amiibo king I have one last thing I want to say I just want to thank Adam and also the people listening I'm going to cry I swear because like I said earlier this was all linking up to this all the little things I've told you I used to be pretty shy about digital content and now I'm halfway through my first video because I have a lot more confidence in myself and the way I talk and you know the way people react to me and that's something I wouldn't have without this show you know I got the chance to talk to some amazing people I got to you know talk music with smooth Magroove and I got to debate matpat from game theory on the link is dead theory and I never in a million years thought I would get to do that you know like that's that's amazing and I never would have done that if it weren't for Adam it is just devotion to striving to be better and reach higher and this show the people who watch it the people who are part of it have helped me so much and not only where I probably want to go but also just my day to day you know I said it has been an easier but you know this show was something that I got to do and I got to be passionate and just you know be lively about something lively with opinions and even negative ones and I cannot thank any of you enough for what you've allowed me to do here and I will remember it for as long as I live and if you want to I don't know follow me on twitter I said earlier who knows I might post something there I don't know but in closing I just want to say thank you it has been as amazing experiences against yeah and so with that we close this week with the hair time remix by thank you guys for joining me and keep on adventuring well I'm very offended actually I take extreme umbrage to that you if if you were a snake which one would you be would you be punished Jake you'd be naked Jake yeah Chris can I be um yes you can naked quiet that works you know that's actually her default uniform it's called naked just uh because like you could choose her whatever fuck important stuff what's next see I would have been like the kind of guy that would be like really excited when I saw like naked outfit unlocked for snake and like yes and then super disappointed that's just because you're no it's just because I appreciate it you appreciate it I want to see big bosses big booty yeah I saw a post if you guys uh heard of the page implying video games are fun yeah it's pretty great they posted a thing and they're like what the video game industry thinks we want and it was like a screenshot of Dead or Alive and it said what what we actually want and it was like a close-up of snakes butt from brawl yeah wow that was pretty fantastic in that game it is it's so toned it blows zero suit out the water like it just it's funny because like everyone's like oh zero suit samus is like naked she's wearing her naked outfit and it's like who cares shulk is almost naked isn't that great guys yeah that's the only way I play a show that's the only way you can oh yeah I know I will not play you if you're playing show unless you're naked is a serious rap for me and Majora's mask is still the best game ever I will defend it I'm still recording Majora's mask let me tell you about how subversive it is and how it's the best game ever let me tell you about why the remakes are just the worst thing ever and also the doobadoobadoobadoobadoo it's a good game you should go play it if you haven't played it ending recording now it's been it's been something