 It's been really good and empowering being with all the other women and seeing their skill level and that nothing is stopping them doing what they need to do and what they want to do. We're in an urban brigade so we don't do too much of the burning so it's a really awesome opportunity to get a bit more of the skills in that area. I think everyone here has had similar experiences and we're all here no matter what background to learn and to grow and to get better at what we do and let nothing hold us back. I've seen a lot of future leaders, female future leaders with a smile on their face when they were learning about the plan burning and with a drip torch in their hands, learning about the fire behaviour in grasslands, learning about the lighting pattern to achieve the outcome that they need to do. It gives us more experience, it's great to learn off of other people because you'll pick up things differently off everyone else because people do things differently, teach and learn things differently.