 Yn y gallwch chi'n gwybod, Cloughy. Ond rydyn ni'n rhiwn adeiladu'n gweithio. Llewch i mi eich ddiolch. Mae mod wedi bod yn y cyflwyniad, felly rydyn ni'n dweud. Rydyn ni'n ddweud. Rydyn ni'n credu. I can do it now. Rydyn ni'n ddweud. Rydyn ni'n ddweud yna eu hynny'n gweithio. Rydyn ni'n ddweud. Rydyn ni'n gweithio ychydig, felly rydyn ni'n ddweud. I can see you in the chat as we're going through, there we go, fantastic. Okay, so first of all thank you very much for attending this session and it's nice to be part of the week of VOTTech when first signed up for this, I didn't know it was going to be part of a bigger thing, so really nice to see that it became something else that it wasn't to start with which is quite nice. So what we've got today is I'm going to look at how we teach without having to stand at the board, that's essentially my idea. Can you guys see my writing on the board? Is the writing working? I can see it's the little pen that says Chris next to it but I can't see any writing, not yet. No, a lot of writing. Okay, give me a second, there's need to sort that just in case there's an issue with that. Oh, got it, I can see some, but yeah, we can see some scribbles. Okay, brilliant, so I can't see the chat on this at the same time. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, so changing our centre or our comfort zone, that's what we're going to look at today. So somebody's comfort zone might be the centre of the board, somebody's comfort zone might be somewhere else. What this will allow us to do hopefully is just to change that positioning now. Just a bit of background about myself, I've been teaching for about 10 years, so got quite a bit of experience at using various different software formats. I've been an ALT lead at their college for a year during lockdown and got a few ideas from that. As I know this has been recorded, here's my social, so people can follow me on here. So I've read our maths on Twitter, Christopher Barnett on LinkedIn and that's my email address. Okay, so without much delay then, so let's very, very first have a very, very brief history about the history of presentations. This is worldwide, not just in the UK. So we'll see why this is important when we go through it later on. So first of all, we start with clay tablets. These are prehistoric times, you're talking like Bronze Age, Stone Age, like 9000 BC. In fact, we're talking about for this kind of tech. Now the thing about this, which is interesting, is it's actually better ergonomically than some of the stuff which you've got later on. So if you can see, I'm going to give all these things an ergonomic writing, and you'll see why I'm doing that later on, because the way that we're presenting schools and in colleges isn't actually the way that humans are supposed to write. I think that's pretty common sense. We don't normally write with our arm elevated at a really strange angle. So first, these clay tablets, people wrote on them with little reed pens and etched into them. Then if somebody wanted to keep it later on when they realised that if you heated them, it became solid, they could heat them. The first time that they were heated was actually by accident in village fires and things. So quite useful, but ergonomic writing, you can write in your normal writing on there, so it's not too bad. Then we go on to these little slate tablets, and we're talking about these little slate tablets. We've got these being invented in about the 14th century, and they were used mainly in these school systems in the 19th century when it became well established. Now, before the big blackboards that you used to see were in classrooms, every student would have one of these, and the teacher would use one as well. So there'd be about 30 of these in a classroom, maybe even more, and the teacher would teach on them, they'd come round and help each individual student. So you can see here, I've given this an ergonomic writing a five out of five, because you can write in your normal writing, no poems there. You're using a bit of a softer piece of chalk to write on there, so that feels pretty good. And if anybody's close to the West Midlands, there's actually a place called the Black Crunchy Museum where you can actually use these, and I've had to use them quite a few times, and actually you're writing these really, really smooth on there. Then we've got this guy here on the right hand side, and mistakenly most people say that this guy invented the blackboard. He's just the one that made it famous, okay? It's James Pilland, and he was a geography teacher and a head teacher, but he actually invented coloured chalk, but he made the blackboard popular, and that's kind of the big turning point, if you like, because that allows us to start presenting in front of classes, which is what we've got here. So to just explain what we've got at the bottom here, we've got a heat map, if you like. So if you're familiar with sports, you'll see a heat map is like where the person or people are mainly dominant in a particular area. So this is the heat map of a teacher using a blackboard, a conventional blackboard. So they use a piece of chalk, a gypsum chalk on the blackboard. As I can see, the ergonomic rating is one. Very, very horrible to write with. When the chalk gets small, it can cause arthritis. Think about teachers using a really tiny piece of chalk. Even when they're brand new, they're not very ergonomic. You get chalk on your hands, but more importantly, let's look at the heat map for a second. The teacher has to be facing the board when they're writing on there. So if the cold class is in this classroom, they're only able to really talk to the board and then turn their head around and then go around once they've finished teaching. So very, very bad for cold class participation. Then next thing that we do is we move on to the normal, sorry, the overhead projectors. This is sometimes called OHPs, and these might be a bit before some people in the chat's time, but these were used when I went to school, in fact. And these were pre-printed often, and then teachers could write on their acetate sheets. You just put the acetate sheets in there. No, what the heat map of that is, you're looking forward this time, yes, but you're still confined to where that acetate sheet is. Now, the ergonomic writing is very good on these because you can actually write really neatly on there. It's not writing the fact that you've got a whack-and-write big light in your face, but they are pretty good in the sense that you can write in your normal writing. Now, with these, you have to write using a sharpie pen, so you have to be really careful not to get on your skin, and they are pretty kind of flimsy to use as well. So loads and loads of disadvantages, even though they're probably an advantage over the blackboard, and they were used for quite some time, but I'd say it's still in the same place at the front. You can't really get amongst your kids. Now, early 1990s now, this is more like kind of our current kind of climat, because you still see these. We've got one in the classroom where I am at the moment, in fact. So this is a normal whiteboard. So we can write using a normal whiteboard pen, which are quite inexpensive, but look at the heat map. It's the same as a chalkboard again. It's exactly the same as that blackboard all over again. We're confined to the front of the room, facing away from our learners. And now, if we look, the ergonomic writing there goes right down, because it's better than the chalk, but you're still facing backwards. You're still like this lady in there, she's smiling, but that's not a very comfortable position for writing, is it? It's not really kind of perceptive for writing and delivering, I don't think. And just as a maths teacher as well, I'd like to make a comment that that bar chart that she's doing is wrong, because there should be spaces in there, but that's kind of not really that relevant. It's more the delivery that we're looking at today. So, again, we've got a new piece of technology, but it's not really done much for us in terms of advancing our movement in the classroom. Then maybe most classrooms these days would be either this one or the next one. So we're talking late 90s, early 2000s. Most schools could then afford to get a computer in each room. So we've got a computer, and then the teacher stands in front of a whiteboard. So you can see the heat map this time. We've got like a two-way. The teacher can teach by looking up if they've got a well-planned slide show that can look forward. I'm just talking about their slides, but then when they need to write things on the board like the date, or maybe some extra questions, they have to look backwards. But to advance slides using the mouse or to open any new files, they probably still need to be in this spot here. Now there is a bit of an exception to this because they could use a clicker. You could use one of these clickers here, but if you use one of those clickers there, you're kind of not able to then write on the board. It's kind of a static image, and it's not really that much of an interactive lesson. So again, the heat map's not really that great, could be improved on, but this is the way that most people will tend to teach, and most people will be comfortable with that, which is why that comfort zone thing can be a real big deal sometimes. Now we've got the modern, and this is what's in the classroom I'm teaching at the moment. I've got one of these in front of me. I'll show you what my mind does later on, but these are big interactive televisions, normally like 4K TVs, and you know what, they're not much different from when we had the blackboard before, are they? You're still having to stand at the front. You've got some interactive features on there. Yes, I get that, but most of those features rely on the technology being with the student, the student's being allowed to have their phones, etc. But that's another kind of presentation in itself, whether it's appropriate for students to have phones. Now, the ergonomic rating of this is pretty good. These pens aren't too bad, but you've got the horrible thing about twisting and writing on a screen. And you've also got the one thing which I probably haven't mentioned so far, but it applies for the whiteboard, for the interactive television, and for the blackboard. It's the fact that if a teacher's not very tall, and I'm sure people can relate to this, you can't really reach the top. So when you get some classrooms and the top right-hand corner is almost unavailable to some members of staff, now obviously in our modern classroom with diversity and inclusion, that's not a great thing that people can't really use the full facility of what they've got in front of them. So the greatest. And then we've got, this is a little high, but it's not really got a date on it because of the fact that it's been used for a while as long as people have had these document scanners. So these document scanners, I'm pretty sure most people have seen. There's an art teacher using one here, as we can see. They project what the teacher's doing there. So the heat map for this is quite centralised around a desk where you're writing, and your face is normally looking towards the screen just to check what you're doing. He's actually popping up on the screen accordingly. So every single one of these you can see leaves a great deal, and I'll just emphasise what we're talking about here, leaves all of this space. We've got all this, sorry, all this space here, sorry, all this space in the classroom where the teacher could actually be whilst they're teaching. Now I'm not saying, like, once they're finished teaching, I mean whilst they're teaching because I know there's an argument, yet I do that Chris, I'll stay there, but when I finish my teaching I go and roam and I'm amongst my class. Yep, absolutely brilliant, that's great teaching, but it could be better because you could be amongst the class whilst you're teaching and you could be amongst the class as soon as the second when you say, okay, do now, or have a go at this task now. So if you could, just in the chat for me please, just say which is the earliest one of these that you've used, which is the earliest form of these that you guys have used in your practice. I'm seeing a few blackboards, OHPs, overhead projectors, whiteboards, chalkboard for one week, yeah, overhead projectors, yeah, the overhead projectors work, they still exist actually, I was doing some research before this and in American schools there's still quite a lot of professors that actually really like them because they can print the slides directly from their books and such. Brilliant, so we've got a real mix of presentation software, sorry, different presentation methods that people have used. And we can see that now I'm going to talk to you about what I'm trying to do to help people to maybe change this so it can be maybe a bit better. And I say like a bit and I say the word maybe because maybe I'm a bit modest. I kind of know that it makes a difference but I want you guys to kind of maybe be convinced rather than me just saying it. So first of all, everything that I always do when it comes to any idea that I've got, the why is more important than the how? So why are we doing this? So why are you going to come away from this session, potentially ask your head of department, maybe even go and spend some of your own money on a tablet or on some equipment or some software, why are you going to do that and why are you going to have to then learn something? Is it going to be worth your time? Because if you don't learn that first then the how is not important because if you don't know why you're doing something or why it's worth the effort then it's not really important. So it all comes down to cognitive load theory. This is where my area of interest first started and then it turned on its head maybe to look at how technology could help to minimise that. So in cognitive load theory we can hold or students as well so it's just humans can hold about three to four pieces of information in our working memory. Now that's absolutely that's that's kind of scientifically proven it's a it's a theory not a hypothesis. John Swell has done a lot of work on this so it means that if the learner is almost overloaded there and then all of a sudden you put something on the board or you put an email pops up on your computer and they see it that could be what causes them to get overloaded and we know we've got enough evidence to say once you get past that point of overload you're probably not going to learn anything and it's probably it's worse than that because you can actually lose some of the stuff that you've learned earlier on in the lesson because you become confused and then the discombobulation then has a knock-on effect. So here is a picture it's this is a seating plan for the Grand Theatre in Wolverhampton. Now all of the highlighted seats are restricted views and they come with upwards of 30% discount in ticket price. So theatres realise that if you've got a restricted view you deserve a discount it's a bit of a disadvantage. Now what do we do in teaching okay in teaching we sometimes obstruct the view by standing in front okay now just in this in the chat could you tell me what presentation software you mostly use when teaching at the moment so is it PowerPoint is it smart notebook is it what's it called Prometheus just because I'm very interested in this to be fair because I know there's so many things out there at the moment yeah PowerPoints are very very popular which is which is great news because there's a lot of stuff that we can do with PowerPoint that kind of ties in with them what I'm doing at the moment Menti yeah Menti's brilliant classroom screen as well yeah PowerPoint and Menti yeah so again a massive quadri-diverse range of things that people are using there so first of all I'm going to I'm not going to apologise because I don't really like PowerPoint too much but that's not because of the way that people that people use it and kind it's maybe just because of the fact that I think to make it as interactive as you like you maybe have to do so many things that you'd be better to use something else so first of all if we've got a fancy slide shall we load the graphics on there it's not very good because it overloads people if this was the start of my lesson why is there a wall on there why is the text slanted why is there a star there why is the different font sizes sir why is there like a bloom in effect on the red all those things are things that I've heard from teachers and students sorry when it comes to looking at slides we've also got slide transitions the slide transitions that don't need to exist they're only there basically to make the lesson look a bit more freely but it doesn't add anything to the teaching and in fact it overloads some of the lesser working memory students you see irrelevant pictures in there and we sometimes get sounds like slide transition sounds as well which aren't great now I'm not saying this is in every PowerPoint of course not and I think most people that are experienced with it don't use these things and they make sure they're not there but they do exist in PowerPoint and there are a lot of teachers that use these things and they are things that will overload people now another thing if you're editing a PowerPoint in your lesson or you have to do anything you'll probably get this screen here now straight away if you get that screen that's almost like a bit like a blue screener death on a computer for some students they can see your slides on the left hand side here and they will start to maybe get oh yeah I can start to see what this lesson's about I can see it in advance and then they're really distracted by this and then when the lesson actually gets back up and running again they've already got oh yeah I knew what was happening here so I'm not going to really concentrate too much I think I know what's coming you've all got this menu bar really really confusing for a lot of students they don't like it and often I think might be a controversial opinion but I think PowerPoint's a bit of a compromise for some teachers that are very creative because as a teacher what we want to do and what we really want to do is we want to be able to write in our own writing on the screen we want to be able to do our own working out on the screen in real time and PowerPoint unless you're stood at the front in front which is pretty much back to the Blackboard days and limited to just advancing through slides and those slides might have really good coherent kind of information on that but it could still be better we get these alerts come up on people's computers we get people's files coming up teachers open the menu bars and open files in the lesson all of this distracting for learners and then we got back to the restrictive view things this is actually a view of the classroom that I'm in at the moment that's me teaching a lesson I've got one of my colleagues to take a few pictures so this is a real seat where a learner could sit this is the same room and the real seat where a learner could sit and then another one a real seat where a learner could sit all of all restricted views no fault of the teacher no fault of the student I'm just teaching normally there I didn't deliberately get in front of the camera to stage the shot that is just genuinely where you would stand if you were teaching at that side of the board so that student sitting in this picture here that student would have the disadvantage of having to wait until I'd finish writing that piece before they could copy anything down or before they could understand what I'm talking about now that's going to lose a lot of students straight away and if the students sat down a seating plan they're probably going to start to not enjoy your lessons now we've also got this fault haven't we I do mobile phones at the back of the room very very sneaky okay if you're going to embrace mobile phones that's fine that as I said earlier that's a different presentation in itself I don't want mobile phones in my classroom because the bad definitely outweighs the good so how can we please this and of course there are positives as well we want to be amongst our learners as soon as they're doing something good so we want to catch the bad and praise the good so what's the solution so we change the teacher's location instead so the teacher rather than being pretty much tethered to the front to the board we can actually use a tablet okay now tablets lots and lots of different ones I think there's one in this picture here which I just grabbed earlier this is about like 200 and something pounds about 250 pounds as long as your tablet has got a capacitive stylus so the the google search that you want if you're looking for a tablet that does this is one with a capacitive stylus so you can see what I'm doing at the moment I'm roaming my cursor around with the word Chris on there I'm not touching my board at all I can gesture towards things and I don't have to touch the board so I can get everybody's attention exactly as I would if I was at the front of the board without having to do anything so all we need is a tablet with a stylus most colleges and schools have got Wi-Fi there so you probably won't need to pay for a 5g ready one now the software that we use or the software that I use there's two softwares that I tend to use the one that's free and there's the other one which isn't free now BitPaper is paid for there is a pair that is a trial of it and the maths universe is free now the maths universe is developed by a guy called Jake Gordon okay massive credit to him for this he did a podcast with Craig Barton not so long ago I suggest that you check that out really knowledgeable guy when it comes to using tablets he's an ex computer programmer and he's using all his amazing skills in order to do things for computer computing lecturers and maths lecturers anyway the bit paper I choose to use because I've got a lot of my lessons already in there and I can do a lot of stuff which I can save in advance the maths universe one it's a bit more difficult to save stuff in advance on that one there but it is still possible and I've got a YouTube channel which I've just started up for a few of my learners and I'm thinking of doing a pros and cons of these two in one of those YouTube channels so if anybody's interested in that later on drop me a line and when that goes live I'll put that on there because this remaining part of this lesson or this lecture could just pretty much be these comparisons so all we need to know is there's two pieces of software both of them are amazing both of them you can experience today if you want to without paying a penny because there's the trial on bit paper and maths universe is free anyway I'll put the links to these in the chat before I leave today now there's no need for clutter in the lessons that's the important thing so what I'm going to do now is I'm going to show you all the tools which I've been using in this lesson so far so you can see my tool pop in there so you can see I've got a way to upload files you can see I've got a long queue of things which I could drop into this lesson at any one time math absolutely loads of stuff in fact I can add grid lines and change backgrounds I can add other people in my room to team teach and I can also tweak some room settings as well like full screen settings I've got all my highlights a pen rubber all the stuff that we'd normally see but because I choose to I choose to hide that from my learners because they don't need to see it the tools are with me on my tablet I've got all those tools in front of me and I can do whatever I want with them without the learners I mean to worry about if I make a silly mistake let's say my tablets accidentally open five windows because my wrist slips the learners don't have to see that they just see the lesson as I plan it so it means that the teacher's got a bit more of a margin of error if you like okay I've got control of my slides as well so I can go backwards and forwards backwards and forwards without actually having to move anywhere I can just teach from anywhere that I want to I've got the view controls as well so if I've got an image let's just show you an image now so let's get this image there so if I want to I can resize an image I can rotate an image I can do what I want with the image kind of in real time without having to resort to going back to the board or back to the computer I've got multiple pens so I've got lots of different colours of pens now we'll see where that comes into its own in a short time because lots of different pens is a big thing for me I'm a maths teacher this presentation isn't about being a maths teacher that's kind of something I wanted to get out the way from the start and there's one maths example I use later on but I don't want to make this about maths but most subjects especially like ones that use diagrams and such the more pens the more colours you can use to show different stages they're working out the better I've got highlighters as well now all these are things that you probably expect with presentation software of course but the level of detail that you've got your disposal right in your hand makes a big difference now testimonial from my students this week when I was doing some revision that using five different colours for a five mark question one colour for each mark is absolutely brilliant okay that's that's what my learners told me I gave them a choice brilliant okay or poor and they all said absolutely brilliant okay now don't force them to say that but they said that they could see where the marks come from even when I finished and I left it on the board and they could copy it down I can cure out content in real time so if I want to all of the sudden now I could put let's say that's I'm going to choose to put a picture okay on there and I can talk about that I can annotate it I if I want to and I'm not going to because of time I could just in the chat I could get a subject matter for one of you guys I could download it from the internet on my tablet and I could drop it into my lesson before you could even finish the sentence about why you want that content if I see that my learners need something in my lesson I can get it for them straight away so it's a different lesson to where I planned at the start and it doesn't that doesn't require any ninja maths all I'm doing is literally let me just show you the tools that I did to do that because I wanted to make it look like as as straightforward as I could possibly get look I just go to that these are things that I've queued up look and let's say I want this picture of this learner lasing at the back of the room I click on that and then it's in my lesson straight away and then I can do what I want but the only difference this time is that most of the time when I'm doing it I'm doing it myself on my tablet and you're not seeing all my tools let's get rid of those tools again because it does make me uncomfortable seeing them when I don't need them you can photograph students work to compare and contrast so my tablet and that tablet that I showed you in any iPad they've got cameras on there of course so if I've got my work learners work on the desk I can take photos a bit in real time I can sneak up on the learners or then they might know that I'm looking for their work and I can compare and contrast two different learners worth the work and see what's good and what's bad about the two and what I can do is I can actually annotate this now look if I wanted to I could say this is good this is good maybe this one's a bit tricky and then what I've done recently which is quite popular is I'll give the tablet to a student they can write in their own writing and they can make the corrections to somebody else so they say that oh this one is wrong Chris can somebody else help me a kid puts the handle they don't have to come to the front of the board they can sit in their seats and they can do the correction or do any notes on it where they sit so really really powerful tool and I don't just have to do two students if I wanted to I could take every single student in the classes work that I did that with a worksheet the one side 10 students in my class I took photographs of all 10 worksheets once they've collected them in and I put them on the board and we talked about what was good and bad about each and I think there was one that was particularly scruffy and everybody was then able to see why it was scruffy and then that student had a bit of a laugh about it because they knew then why their work looked scruffy than everybody else's because they could compare it okay now I'm not going to do this but this is a slide that I often do when I do a presentation like this I'll give this student to somebody in the audience and then they would do the calculation in whichever way they see fit and then the importance is here you would see that actually it's writing in your own handwriting so somebody that's never used a tablet before may be never taught apart from when they touch the screen they will realise that actually you know what this is my handwriting okay if I do my signature here this is my signature that's the same signature that I would do if I was signing a check or if I was signing a document it looks like my writing I'm not compromising I'm not ergonomically disadvantaged if you like and I don't need to return to the front once the learner has done that example I can talk and walk whilst they're doing the example and then as soon as they've finished it I can come and grab the tablet or maybe if they want to carry on doing another example that I'll tell them to like with them right there I own example here for example whatever they wanted to now just behavior management no problem what does it do behavior management no problem because I'm amongst the learners I've got a lesson on a Thursday at the moment let me just get a rectangle tool to show you I'll draw a diagram for this because I might as well I've got a lesson on a Thursday at the moment and I that's the board there that's where the board is in this room and I stand and roam pretty much here and here when I'm teaching with this class because there's two or three girls here and they talk quite a lot if they're not kept under order so all I do is I just teach mainly from here I roam around the back row as well whilst I'm teaching so I'm not looking at the board I'm not even looking at them to be honest with you I'm looking at my tablet as soon as I hear anything I'll just go and stand next to them and absolutely brilliant that the copy in the note stone and if they're not you'll just say what are the names you just say their name politely no raising my voice and they'll just do it straight away and most of the time you don't need to say the name you just stand there proximity is really really important and also that means that we can do narrating the positive catch them being good as the as Doug Lennon upstairs in his book catch them being good praise them for what they're doing right what else can we do because I'm ready now to time with bit paper and with math university got an unlimited canvas space so appreciate it I've got an unlimited canvas space here I could go on forever I've actually taught an entire lesson for three hours in our college using one page believe it or not it allows us to team teach okay I'm going to flip my laptop for one second just so if you look at my camera I've got this board in the front tiller and at any time I could start teaching this could be a colleague maybe you've got a colleague who's not so tech savvy and they want to still team teach with you they can teach at the board here and then you could be the tech person and you could be queuing all this stuff up and slinging it in the lesson with the tablet so brilliant for team teaching and this is something that I'm really keen to explore I've not done it that much yet and we're really really keen to explore that and we can share the lesson as a PDF with the learners afterwards and also when you finish the lesson it saves where it is automatically when I come out to this presentation in a short time everything that I've done here will be saved exactly as it was and if I want to go back and reverse the steps of every single calculation or work their ID I can do in the order which it was put down on the page. That QR code there is actually a QR code for this particular bit paper so if anybody wants to take a screen shot to that I know most of you might be watching this on your phones but if you're not watching it on your phones you can take a photograph of that QR code there and you can actually go into this bit paper and you can edit it to your heart's content if you want to delete stuff mess around with the tools it will give you the chance to do that so that's a really really potted idea of what I do in my lessons at the moment and maybe a bit of an idea about where I want to go with this okay for me it's not that important to make the technology the idea is that actually I want to be amongst my learners I want to be able to roam around I don't want to be tethered to the front and I want to just be able to teach the lessons that I want to teach. If you're used to teaching PowerPoint this is really really great because you just change your lessons to a PDF just go to print sabers PDF markers of PDF mode and then you can just import them into bit paper or into the maths universe and that will work okay thank you very very much for listening there I don't know is there any time for questions at all Chloe? Yeah we've got a few minutes if folks want to stay on for another four minutes um if there's any questions please just unmute if you have um if you have anything that you'd like to ask Chris there was a little bit of conversation going on in um in chat lots of discussions about OHPs so you can have a little of yourself later Chris but if anyone would like to ask a question please do feel free to unmute yourself and ask oh Anne has asked is it easy to sync the tablet with the screen at the front oh it's a brilliant question we were talking about just before we all came in yeah brilliant question Anne so this is this this is the brilliant thing about this for um uh bit paper and for maths universe I'm not actually connected to the screen at the front all I'm doing is I'm logging into a website beat bit paper or beat um maths universe and once I'm on that website everything that I write on there would will mirror on the website when I log into it on the computer so there's no bluetooth connection between my um my tablet and the actual screen at the front if you noticed um Chloe's subtitle for um the webinar and for the podcast was um teaching on a potato because in technology we say a potato is something almost like a dumb terminal like something which has almost no processing power so I've actually taught a lesson with my daughter at home who's seven years old and she's got a playroom we've got a smart tv in there and I literally got this internet browser up we logged into bit paper on there and she was using my tablet and that smart tv is like so old but if that were to happen to be in a classroom that teacher who's got a tv which is maybe 100 quid that would have a 45 inch i think that's 55 inch tv sorry that are a 55 inch tv to be able to then write um their lesson on so all you need is a tablet which is good all the technologies in the tablet all you need on the computer at the front is the ability to be able to go on the internet hello for we going oh clever awesome well thank you if there's no more questions thank you so so much um this video will be on youtube um in on the amplify ff e um list and all the links that we've been popping into chat and if there's any more um chris that you want to add I think you mentioned a podcast before and also is our podcast too we can put all those links under the youtube video as well so people can access them really easily um but i'm going to say a huge huge thank you um to you and also to everybody else for being um a fantastic audience and having a great little conversation in our chat as well now thank you very much thank you very much god i've just popped those links in there um hopefully get in touch when you get the slides get in touch with me on um twitter or on there because this will become a research project later on so as much as many people as possible showing any interest really helps me so thank you