 We've been trying to make this case for a long time right that going to the gym to practice versus always going in there to Workout or exercise. I think that we're trying to shift people's mindset. I think for the long for the longest time Health and fitness people are always pushing the motivation. Yeah part of workouts You know to go crush it and beast mode and you're you're gauging your workouts based off of how much you sweat Or how tired you are or how sore you are the next day And you know trying to get people away from that conversation and more into the form and great point That's the number. That's the factor everybody thinks is the most important is intensity. Yeah, in fact They people readily trade Intensity for technique because they think it's the intensity. That's the most valuable thing. 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Here comes the rest of the show The most important factor by far when it comes to your exercises is form and technique Without it your workouts are far less effective and way more dangerous So focus on your form and technique above all that's a strong statement to say most important Yeah, because well think about it right think about um think about all the exercises that someone can do and Think about someone doing them terribly. Yeah It's your reps your sets your intensity doesn't matter at that point because it's way less effective And you've made them so much more dangerous And this really came to me because i'm working out in a commercial gym these days I haven't worked out in a commercial gym for a long time. You must be seeing a lot of uh wild form out there I do I see a lot of and I i'm watching people go hard or go easy But the technique and the form is so bad. I'm like I know you're doing squats, but you're not doing squats What you're doing is you're set you're gonna hurt yourself at some point, um or you know I see you doing rows, but you're making your posture worse with the way that you're doing them type of deal So and as trainers and coaches, I would say I mean, there's a lot of things that we coach and train on But I would say that's probably the thing you you really focus on the most from a I guess a Mechanistic standpoint. Well, I used to argue this quite a bit just mainly for what are you building upon like what? What's gonna carry you further into um, you know years down the road And or am I gonna have to go back and and undo everything that I was working towards because My form was so off and I was building all these bad patterns that I wasn't going to carry with me So is it really worth? um Losing weight and and doing things immediately right now without really paying attention to the form technique I would have to say that uh, you know, you can make a definite case that it's oh, I think it's I think it's 100 correct at least for Compound lifts and and and complex movements hard to make that case. I think for machine bicep curls machines things like that that are Single joint movements that there's not a lot of risk involved It does make them less effective though Oh, it does make them more risky is my point. Maybe not super risky But it's just more risky than they need to be even though they're very safe exercise No, no, but I mean the statement is most important right the factor I don't know if that would be the most important factor for those types of movements I definitely see that with a uh a barbell complex movement for sure because there's so much risk involved and to your point Justin You're laying this foundation and if you bad patterns if you create those then everything else going forward is going to be Terrible it's just it's I would say that you know, obviously compound lifts require more attention to form a technique But man, have you guys seen a barbell curl done with terrible technique or a lateral You know done with terrible technique. Oh, yeah the arching back and oh man. Yeah, it's just it's not even the same exercise You know what makes exercise is good at what they're designed to do Is the form of technique? So I don't care what exercise you you pick it could be a abduction machine, right? Which has a little bit of value mainly maybe for correcting and balances if you do it wrong There's where's the value it's gone now, right? All exercises are like that like we talk a lot about like squats are so effective for the lower body Do them wrong. Are you really doing the squats anymore? Are you really deriving any value? And then a lot of these lifts is to your point Adam, especially the compound lifts They'll get a bad rap because people do them wrong And so I'm sure you guys have seen this where you'll do a deadlift and someone come up. You shouldn't do that Yeah, I hurt my back doing deadlifts or I hurt my knees doing squats. We make the argument sometimes for exercises like the jefferson curl for instance, but There's certain people that have proper form technique and strength in that range of motion to pull it off But that's everything. It's it's the technique. It's the strength. It's the control That really determines whether or not it's a valuable exercise for you. Yeah, it just it's like if you if you lack Of course, there's obviously I'm being very black and white. Of course, there's a Spectrum here your form can be off a little bit. That's going to be different than if it's off a lot But if you if you're doing a workout and your form is off on every exercise that you're doing You're and you're not really focusing on the technique and you continue to work out You might not get hurt For a year or two years or three and you start to get these overuse kind of injuries And then you can't do those movements anymore Um, and that becomes a big problem and then if you're one of those really consistent Discipline people who's like no matter what I'm working out no matter what Then you run into this which I used to see all the time in the gym Which was the the guy or girl who's been working out for 10 years and they're like, yeah, I can't bench anymore Yeah, I don't do overhead presses anymore. It's like they remove All these really effective exercises because they've developed these overuse injuries which come from You know poor technique and form so um, and that's especially with strength training. It's like Technique and form is what makes those exercise So valuable and so like even with low intensity if you just practice the exercise and practice technique You'll get great results versus, you know, terrible techniques. I just want to make that point, you know Yeah, no, I think that people And we've been trying to make this case for a long time right that going to the gym to practice versus always going in there to Workout or exercise. I think that we're trying to shift people's mindset. I think for the long for the longest time Uh health and fitness people are always pushing the the motivation Yeah part of workouts, you know to go crush it and beast mode and You're you're you're gauging your workouts based off of how much you sweat or how Tired you are or how sore you are the next day and you know trying to get people away from that conversation and more into the Form and great point. That's the number. That's the factor. Everybody thinks is the most important is intensity. Yeah, in fact Uh, they people readily trade Intensity for technique because they think it's the intensity. That's the most valuable thing So they go off There was a class I was watching the other morning again at the gym and I want to keep talking about because they're good people there Okay, I don't want to say anything negative They're actually better than most gyms But there was a class of strength training class going on And one of the reasons we've talked about why we don't like classes so much is it's um It's almost impossible to be really specific and watch technique when you got 30 people But you're watching the people and their form is going out the window because they're all chasing intensity And they're and they're trading it happily because people have no idea that The intensity is not nearly as valuable as the former technique. So again, I'm watching I'm like, oh my gosh You know speaking of classes. Did you guys see uh otf that rolled out the steve oki thing? What's that? So they have higher his his executive title is uh, like chief A music officer. No. Yeah, so he's like a famous dj right that spins a lot and like you know, I'm just trying to like I don't think everybody knows he did the comic book with tom bill. Yeah, most people should got it has to know Who steve? Yeah, he's one of the most famous for sure one of the most famous and So they hired him. I believe that's the right title. Maybe doug can fact check me I think it's cmo and I think it stands for chief music officer or something And I believe that which is I think this is really clever and super smart very smart. Um, I don't think it's going to improve The workouts by any mean, but I think that I love that they're doubling and tripling down on the experience aspect of the business Although as as a trainer, I would like to critique and say oh better workouts and that's but at the end of the day It's a business. That's what they're trying to do is scale this thing and I think that You know playing right into that and like check this out our music is customly made. Oh, that's by steve I think that's pretty cool. Right. Is that what it says? Doug? Was I right? Yeah chief music officer Well, do you guys do you guys remember see what he got paid if you can Do you guys remember it might have been crunch at one point? But there was a gym chain That was famous for the classes and they were always packed But it was because of stuff like this like there'd be like live Like reggae or there'd be a dj spinning in the class or there'd be Like some kind of different cycling classes. Yeah, we're notorious for that Yeah, having like crazy music going at the same time super intense people. I mean as a selling point people love it I think this is a I think this is a really smart move because if people go in there and listen to music That's special to otf. I'll be right right need a laser light show Well, I wonder too if they're going to get him, you know, and I one of this so early on so we I worked at one of the one of the first ones on the west coast, right? Florida was really big first Um, I doubt we were the first ones to do this We definitely were the first ones in the west coast and in our area that did this I'm sure somebody in the east coast did this but we used to have a live dj come in So I think it was on every other friday or something like that. I bet those would pack those classes Oh, yeah Yeah, no people just it just brings a different energy in there. You know what I'm saying? So it's exciting classes are all about energy. Yeah, and you feel like you're in a night club And I mean and you actually feel the speakers because the dj comes in with all their stuff I used to have djs come into the gym when we would do closeouts And I would get some complaints the older members didn't like it because it was loud as shit But I would always sell more members people don't like music in general Now Loud it's very it's very a processed food esque though to me You know I'm saying it's like She focusing on the the crunch the smell and the taste of the workout versus action Yeah versus Versus the effectiveness of the workout what we're going to do But so again, I'm commending them on the business side Less of a fan on the programming than that that side of it because I still think that they have to Sure, their signups will increase. Oh, yeah, because that that's that's a big selling point It's funny because I always had this idea of like having like a crazy dungeon kind of gym that like had Live metal. Oh Can you imagine how crazy I'd be hitting piers all day. Oh, I'd hurt myself and easily that that would be dangerous That would be awesome. Yeah. No, I I have to literally tailor my music based off of what I'm trying to do Yeah, if I if I'm like calories are low and I'm trying to get leaner And I'm not gonna be a strong and I gotta go get a pump It's like I'm not putting metal on because the workout change right away Yeah, you definitely have to do the right setting Yeah, I wonder if you'll actually show up and drop in I don't know if that's part of his contract or what But it'd be really cool to see if he like will tour around and drop in to the place Well, didn't Madonna do that with her hard candy gyms. So remember hard candy. I forgot. Yeah, she was part of that She still knows I don't know if she didn't he didn't she partner with master off I want to say so. I know that uh apple was was running some of them. In fact, I got invited to the Hard candy one in Rome. I guess it's across the street from the Coliseum But these gyms were like that live classes and you know, and she would actually show up I don't know if they're doing this anymore This is when they first started she would show up just as publicity things, right? Yeah each class speaking of which Did you see her tiktok? Everybody showed me just she does not look the same Why is everyone talking about it because it doesn't look like her anymore. She's had so much work on her face Yeah, definitely. She's gone so far to where it's like unrecognizable It's bad when you're a celebrity like that. I feel bad because is there a name for that Well, you were we were talking about this all the time about how these celebrities have become famous and they're they're famous for the way They look and stuff See so it's really common with actors and actresses and is there is there is that a syndrome or is there a term For for that we're like an addiction to a plastic surgery in general It's just it's just when you're when you're loved and valued for your image Aging has got to be the worst possible thing that can happen to you because you're not going to look the same You're getting older. You want to stay relevant? So I mean I feel for people like that because I can't imagine what that would feel like now Where are you guys at like what I mean? Obviously our our wives all take care of themselves They're fit and in good shape, but at one point they'll be 65 70 years old also Um, what if and if the wives came up to you and wanted to get stuff done Where do you stand on that? Like how would you have that conversation? God, I mean look you depend. Yeah, I think it depends and I think it would depend on what what it is Like what the procedure is. So are there so how big are there? No You know what? I think it's it's gotta it's how much money where you talk You know what it's the it's what causes someone to want to go far That's the real thing like if you're if you're feeling really bad about yourself and insecure And it's like anything right it can turn into this thing where you're trying to fix yourself all the time At some point you have to accept That entropy happens right you have to accept that you age and uh, you know, that's the deal I get like hormone therapy if it's monitored. That's you know, that's fine I mean some a bit of botox. I think it's it's the wrinkle stuff that you know, like I know I've talked to Courtney a bit. It's just that kind of stuff like kind of comes in I don't have a problem. So I'm like I'm on both sides of this right because I've seen I've seen the abuse of it I've seen someone go down like they they start with something very basic like botox and then it just gets escalates, right? Yeah, but then I've also seen conditions where you have someone who's and I won't I have family right that they've done this and they're uh north of 60 years old And after I saw the surgery one it was so subtle that most people would know I know because I see her all the time um, but I also notice uh How it impacted her life afterwards like she be she was going out more and she seemed to be happier And so you have to ask yourself Okay, well, I know it's superficial. I know like For the for people that don't do it and aren't fans of it. There's that initial like, uh Why would you do that and be kind of judgy about it? But then there's the other side where I've seen someone do that before And it kind of turned around their Their life positively. So it's kind of I feel like there's ways of like like the subtle ones I think too where it's like, it's you know, it's not an addiction to it Like I think there's a difference when you see somebody that has had like everything You know versus like just some subtle things to just kind of slow down the aging process, but let's be honest the the What's considered? You know excessive Changes all the time. That's right. Like, okay, if we went back 100 years. So we go back to the early 1900s Uh 1920s, uh breast implants would have been weird, right? People are like, what the hell? Coloring your hair 150 years ago would have been weird, right? I'm so glad we're bringing this up because I was in Bakersfield dude and Dude, there was like poster boards everywhere for like butt lifts and and boob jobs and like I was like, wow I didn't know this was such a plastic surgery place to go. You know, like in Bakersfield, you know Really holding it down. Yeah. Yeah, and I saw it like in a couple of the Coffee shops there was like lady that visibly had, you know, regular legs and then just this this You just slapped his butt on there. Wow. It was just totally obvious. Well, how far is that from um What's that? What's the town south? That's like the yeah Kind of no, no, no, no, not Beverly Hills. No the uh the famous porn city, which uh, San Fernando Valley. Yes Justin so quick on that one No, how far is San Fernando Valley from Bakersfield area? That's not too far. Is it probably so maybe that's what they're Yeah, that's my theory is that Bakersfield is one of the kind of cheaper places to live from the San Fernando and LA area So I'm wondering if like that's why you see so much of that That's smart You like you work and do your plastic surgery you live and you do your plastic surgery in Bakersfield and you commute over to San Fernando. It's so funny because there's some big houses we drove by but then there's just like all these like oil rigs and bar wire Like uh, it looked like people selling crack. What is it Doug? It's like 91 miles. Okay, so it's somewhat close It's like people who started selling shovels with the gold rush. Oh, it was a huge demand here guys Let's open up a shovel store. Yeah Well, I've seen I've seen that more now than I ever have to like when wouldn't just when uh, we were younger Obviously breast implants was a was already becoming popular But I didn't know anybody who had button plants. I've seen more of those in the last like 10 years That's a hard one to that's a really hard one to do because it's a muscle. Yeah, maybe to the average person They can't tell I'm a trainer. I can I mean you have to have built hamstrings to make that work. Otherwise. It's like Nothing and then but all of a sudden well, you can normally tell fake boobs. Oh too, right? Not always plus boobs, but you know boobs aren't muscle So I think I'm maybe a little biased. I'm a trainer. No, I'm coming on your point Your point is that you could tell the difference and I'm like, well, how often do you see Well, I think to be more specific. I think because I'm a trainer If if anything that has to do with the muscle because I know you could build it Maybe it like because I build muscle for later. That's what I do for a living Well, no, I get if someone has huge glutes what comes with huge glutes is hamstrings developed hamstrings Because you're working that backside and just it complements it It's going to your if you build a really big strong But the hamstrings are going to come up with it. Yeah, that's just part of yeah So when you see like those like absolutely no definition in hamstrings at all Which tells me they haven't done a single squat in their life and then diaper, but then this huge butt Yeah, no, I get I get that Yeah, it's your bar. I'm at but it'd be it'd be like getting bicep implants but having no triceps You know what I mean? Be like just this big bicep in the front. Yeah, everybody would know So what else did you do down there? You guys were we're there for the kids Gymnastic tournament and so we kind of made a weekend out of it because we messed up. It was great. It was scenic You know into the uh sites. I loved your picture You know what was great was you did that and I even somebody who lived there was just like I wanted to defend it, but I couldn't think of any way to I'm like you guys like produced corn the band. So that's something. Oh, did they? Yeah They came out But yeah, that was like right outside my hotel, dude. It was gnarly Yeah, just to say the least it was not a whole lot of uh, you know, great things going on Five-star hotels there. Yeah, not a whole lot I mean we we drove back and tried to make a trip out of it and went to like San Luis Obispo And so we're on this hunt to like find a lot of items for the house And there's this really cool like furniture store And we bought this like mirror and then we bought this other piece That was like a nine-foot piece of wood that was Somebody had had carved these these two like bowls in it and Apparently it was like some tribe in India And it was part of their like warding off evil spirits or whatever And it's like kind of their thing they had this whole backstory behind it It was like 300 years old and I was like, oh dude, this thing is cool You know and we're all stoked on it We shove it in the car with us like right between all of us and we're driving all the way home Like three hours with this big old fucking wood like like smashing into us the whole way home We get home and there's a made in china town. Yeah It's worse than that No, no way it's worse than that. No, that's not that would be the worst thing ever No, this was expensive too. It was like it was like a total conversation piece And I'm like, oh cool because we got all these blank walls and stuff in my house. Yeah. Yeah lame. So I bring it inside and um, I put it against the wall. I wanted to be near the door I'm like, this looks cool here And so I didn't think anything of it and we're just kind of walking around And then right before I'm going to bed Courtney's like, you know The boys kind of came up to me and they're like, you know, we're we're scared We're scared of this this this item that you brought in the house and I was like, what you're scared. What do you mean? So I just I turned the lights on I go over that that was just like messing with my head I'm like, why are they scared of this? I'm looking at it and it's like it's these two so it's bulls But they look like just demons like like when you start looking at it without all the distraction of things In a different setting and it's just by itself. It was like you're walking past it and it's just like this This old ancient evil fucking relic I just put in my house Your ghost house into my ghost house that has already tried to set itself on fire and flood itself. What are you trying to do? I don't know it's attracting. I don't know. I was like, why didn't I bring this in my house? And I put it outside my house for the night and I'm like now I have to fucking sell it Yes, dude, I can't have it in my house And I didn't realize like I was like how did I not see this Yes, I drove all the way with it like banging. Hold on. Would it look cool in here somewhere? I don't know. You know, I sent uh dug a picture of it If you guys want to check it out, let me see what it looks like I mean it's super cool, but it was like dude this thing is how much you pay for this It's got a little bit evil vibes to it. Do I dreamt or did you break a thousand on this? You didn't spend a thousand dollars on it Oh, yeah, that's for sure. I did dude. It's 300 years old, bro. You're talking about this. It's 300 years old. Yeah Dude, I this thing Let's see. Yeah No, no, not that. Oh, that's cool. I don't know what that is. No, I texted to you. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, I see here We are. Yeah. No, it's it's a plank of wood. You have a your house is haunted. We've already established 300 years old And you brought in some somewhere else and you brought in some cursed Yes, yes, so You're trying to cross too many shows where like somebody brings in this old piano that like demons come out Then they fuck with you or hey, remember the Brady bunch and they brought back the the lava rock Oh, yeah for a while either. Yeah, it's probably fine But it's just it got in my head that the kids were scared of it. You know, I think that's it really like Kids see spirits, bro. Are you having technical difficulties over there? Of course, of course Well, you know, we can see it later. Hey, you know before you as he's trying to work on that We have to talk about one of the most gangster moves ever That someone did Elon Musk. What are you doing? You can't believe you don't know you hear this. No. Oh my god I thought for sure. No wonder you weren't talking about it. No. No Okay, so remember how Elon did that that poll about if you were to start his own social media Yes, okay, you know what he did? He did something. No, no. He did something that's so gangster. It's amazing He bought 9.2% of twitter He is the largest shareholder now of twitter the largest just for for reference Jack Dorsey who founded it owns 2% Yeah, so Elon Musk now is majority shareholder. He now owns more shares than any single person of twitter He has now serious influence and power and by the way By the way, interesting. He bought that many shares, right? I don't know how many billions of dollars or whatever he bought He's just a shit ton of shares Immediately twitter exploded. He's already made 750 million dollars as of right now If you go on and look at the caught the whatever he's already made 750 million dollars off of his his investment bro Wow, no worries shareholders excited about him coming in or they can't say okay They can't say anything to say because this is so now he's shaking it up Let's talk about this right because he one thing that he tweeted that got a lot of controversy was he said Do you think that the algorithm that twitter operates off of should be uh open source? Because there's all this this controversy, right? Are they censoring these people? Why isn't it fair with these people over there? You kick this guy off You don't kick that guy off. We have the you know the the the people you know running the country of iran who obviously support They're still on there, but you know the our ex-president is off there and whatever. It's all this this controversy He said we I want we need an algorithm. That's that's open. So people know what's going on I i'm very interested to see what kind of influence he has Now did this come I had to gone crazy. The press has got to be all over Did he talk about it? I mean did he come out and say his intentions? He hasn't said anything so far. No. Not yet. That was just the big I think it's pretty clear what his intentions are based off of how he's You know what he's always said I gotta look at the shares right now Well, of course, you're gonna see from the conservative side people. They're like, yeah, bring trunk back on You know like I don't know how much power you have at nine percent still you're not a much You're you're not the ceo. Yeah, and you don't even have majority, right? So you have you're the the largest holder so you do you can manipulate stock, right? So you could be a dick and and sell off when they're already crashing and then that would hurt them really bad So you do have some power. I'm sure it comes with a board seat with that much money I think it I think one of the biggest simple things that I can think of is They can't kick him off or censor him because there's always been a little bit of a threat because he pushes it a little bit Why why couldn't because he owns nine? What if he what if he retaliates cool? I'll dump all the stock boom you guys all tank, you know It's very interesting and I'm not sure what the shareholder meetings would look like Obviously, he's not the he doesn't own a majority in the sense that he has that that kind of power But a single person owning that many shares would mean I don't know how many other shareholders would have to come together to override him is my point He owns so much because it doesn't sound like It would just be the the board the board would have to I don't know how many people are on the board And even if he has a seat on the board He would have a majority vote He would have to have a majority of vote to really impact any real structural change. He's definitely in the meetings now to the company Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's on the board. Maybe yeah is what I would assume that he is but It's like just a foot that he got in right like I don't know exactly like where that's gonna Bottom line. It's interesting as shit like it's interesting that he's made a play like that You know, you wonder what he's and that's after he tweeted, you know I'm thinking about starting my own basically essentially starting my own social media platform. I mean that's wild Yeah, this came out. I didn't even see this. This just happened. I mean twitter. I mean exploded their share their share price exploded right afterwards And again, if you if you see how much he invested after he bought it the rising stock He's already made, you know, I just love all the moves Hey, love or hate him you have to at least appreciate watching him. Dude. He's I mean, you gotta appreciate You know why I like the guy. I don't know him. So I don't know if he's a good guy bad guy or whatever He's gangsters hell though Because he puts his money where his mouth is all the time exactly they talk crap about it not paying taxes He pays more taxes than anybody then he donates billions of dollars in charity now How are you gonna talk part of it k? So, you know, we're once we're all done. There's the smelling his farts, right? Oh, is this your picture? Oh, yeah. Now you can see it. Yeah My computer did not like this thing Oh, see it's it's definitely got some evil spirits or something Yeah, but like your first glance it looks cool because it's just like bulls But um, I don't know what it was like in the certain lighting in my house and myself without the truckie studio Yeah, like it's it's it's cool. It's like a totem kind of pole First I want to I want to like see what I was really stucked on it and then what it means I'm not about to put that somewhere if it means something. Exactly. That's my point is I don't have a whole lot of like A protective type of symbolism in my house yet. So it's like, I don't know if I want to cross up and be done with it Yeah, there you go. Well, I'm just gonna get a priest and to do a little thing You know back back to you guys smelling his farts is you know Elon is one of the the better CEOs out there, especially when we talk about the the billionaire CEOs um as far as um talking to the press and and and Doing a good job of promoting himself. So you have to remember that as you guys talk about how Of his brand. Yeah, he's not afraid. Let me say that when he smells. He does interviews He tweets he does all this stuff all the time Like he's he's also brilliant in the way of self promoting So part of our allure to him and stuff like that is he does that better than many there There might be somebody who's a bad-ass billionaire or hundred millionaire that you like even more But you don't know it because he's not self promoting the way But you know what? It's not even so much that for me because remember how much criticism he got for smoking a joint on rogan Remember tesla shares Crap that went down like like four percent five percent something like that. Yeah, it's not even that I don't really care about that that much. He's kind of weird when he talks. He's obviously a very smart dude I think he's even said on saturday night live that he's uh, was he a high functioning autistic So he's not like super smooth when he communicates. Yeah, he just puts his money where his mouth is That's it. He talks shit about twitter. What did you do? He's all action. Yeah. What did you do billions of dollars here? Now I own nine point two something, you know percent like that's putting your money where your mouth is That's the part that I because I don't know if I would do that with that with that many billions of dollars Like that's a big risk the opposite could happen He could have bought it and people could have sold their shit and he could have lost Yeah, well he's no doubt. He's playing 3d chess for sure But you know what speaking of billionaires. Oh my god, especially justin and doug You guys will appreciate it because I know how much you guys like billions and what a shit show that's become right Terrible season so unfortunate. There's not a lot of so, you know, we had that conversation This was on friday. The three of us were talking and we're all disappointed in like the you know trajectory of billions and stuff Yeah, so I was on a hunt for like because I made that comment like what other billionaire shows Or there's not like other cool billionaire shows that I can watch other than succession and that like what else is there? Yeah So you know what show I found that i'm like going down the rabbit hole right now undercover billionaire Grant cardone was on it Is this like undercover boss? Is it the same? Yeah, because I've seen undercover boss So it's a reality show like that but The premise is nothing like that. So undercover boss. They oh you texted us about this. So this thing Okay, so and and now I like grant cardone even more I kind of like the guy before but I didn't know him very well after watching him do this and I guarantee once you guys watch it You'll have similar feelings. I'm not all the way through. I haven't seen the finish of it But it's got me sucked in so check this out. So the the premise of the show I went right to so by the way I went to a disclaimer I went right to season two because I really the way I got hooked in was I was curious about grant cardone's episode I wanted to see his episode his episode is in season two So I started at season two The show is about three three other billionaires grant cardone being one of them. So two other ones And they they tell them they they strip them of all their money their name that the change their appearance They get a cell phone with no con no contacts in it and a hundred dollars in their pocket They drop them in a random city that they don't tell them about in like Literally bumfuck egypt type of towns in the middle everywhere in the country the three three different places And then they have 90 days to build a million dollar business. Oh, wow Fucking cool. Now are they do the I mean it's a spoiler alert. Do they do they actually do it? So I know they do because I looked ahead, but I haven't seen it unfold and happen Supposedly grant builds a 5.5 million dollar business in real companies that like Yes, which is a hundred bucks. So the best part of the show already some crack of some cocaine Yeah chop immediately. I'm going to drugs. Yeah They can't they cannot use their likeness. So even when they're having conversation with these people They have to pretend they're somebody else. You can't use anything that they yeah, they have no leverage Zero leverage at all and no power with money. They have a hundred dollars to their name fantastic And and they give them this beat-up truck So they they they each have like a beat-up vehicle that's worth maybe two grand And a hundred dollars their name and and they got to pay for food in a place to live and stay So they all got to get jobs right out the get they got to find a place to live for super cheaps and sailing It is cool. That sounds so hard. And what it is it's crazy It seems crazy hard and the thing that I'm most impressed with is all three of these CEOs are like Totally different people But you start to see some characteristics that I wish the show actually Elaborated or highlighted a little common. Yes that people need to understand like You got these these these billionaires that and and I know a lot of times like billionaires they get this You know pretentious and their asshole. These guys are fucking the furthest get there by accident That's right. And you watch the way they interact with strangers and people and the way they build relationships and how Every every bit of communication is they're always thinking two three steps ahead On relationships and and building those first the money will come They all say kind of the same thing like I have no idea what I'm going to build I have no idea the opportunities My and they all kind of have the same similar strategy of my goal is because they have no idea where they're going It's like when I get into this town is to go find the movers and shakers Who are the most powerful people in town and they all end up getting connected? To people and the way they get connected is really really cool. Oh, it's very interesting I had no idea about the show And uh, I thought it was such a cool premise, right? Yeah, I mean to build to build it. I mean to build any Any business that sounds impossible is yeah, I mean it sounds impossible. Yes. Here's 100 bucks. Go make a million dollars in 90 days You know, it's cool about that is um If it's real, which it sounds like it is I think if you watch that you can realize like there's a lot you can control You know, there definitely is I mean I've worked with some very successful people as clients and you do find these You find that some some pretty interesting commonalities and one of them is they're they're typically very good with people You know one of my favorite parts without like ruining the show This is just a small part and what made me like Grant Cardone so much because I know very little about this guy Is part of his strategy is to get to a place where he can make two He set a goal two to three thousand dollars in the first week and a half So he can pay for his family to be there because he knows if he's got a grind like this for 90 days That he needs his family. He's never been more than like four days without his kids Oh, wow And so he's so determined to hustle up three to five grand So he can then pay for them to come out and stay and be near him So he can finish the so none of them went to town about a hundred dollars worth of scratcher tickets Nobody yeah And everybody found a way to and the stuff that some of these CEOs are doing like this one girl like she Find like a hundred dollars will not even get you a night at a motel No, like so she found like this like shithole in And ends up making a deal for one night and then she ends up I mean the place is disgusting finds out the guy who's managing it needs like all this help and decides to like Scrub bathrooms clean kitchen and just just remodel the place on her free time To get trade for staying in the end So they all use ways like that to leverage like they're and the jobs that they're willing to do to make a couple bucks Like nobody's like complaining that they're getting minimum wage. No one's come They're just they're doing everything they can right now to just establish a real and that's where I'm at in the show Like so I haven't seen and it's called billionaire undercover. Undercover billionaire. Yeah, it's a discovery plus show I'm watching that. Yeah, that's that sounds really good. We brought up Elon's smoking weed Is it true that the at the federal level they're passing marijuana the house the house the house voted to decriminalize Marijuana, but I think it still has to go through the senate or the senate might have shot it down already at this point Does anybody care? Yeah, it's been out By the way, that's not legalization. I got I have cousins. Oh, I got cousins who are like texting. Whoo. It's going to be legal No, it's not the same dude. Yeah. It just means it's decriminalized. That doesn't mean it's going to be Okay, legalized, but yeah, they need to They need to decriminalize it or at least not treat it the way that they treat it Which is I mean, it really is not going to impact anybody at our level who's just a consumer right now Because right now almost any state you're in you can go. Yeah, it goes decriminalization And then if it goes legalization federally, then what you'll see is these established cannabis companies in states where it's legal Like california versus washington livery Oh, then they'll then they'll start to go Grocery stores safe ways and I mean that's that'll be interesting to see So that's what I'm most curious to see what happens is like are are we going to see in the next few years? You know, you'll be national brands just like you see alcohol and cigarettes at a grocery store Will you now see a section that's dedicated to like cannabis products? And you'll just have to be I think so where I think they'll screw up Where I think they'll screw up is they'll tax the shit out of it Which will keep the black market vibrant. You know, I mean, that's that's you know, what I you know I think that I think that's the the for sure natural progression anyways Like they're going to make sure they squeeze every dime they can and then I think over time You got to think that they would loosen up on there. There's a dumb. There's still moonshiners that exist, right? Yeah Yeah, but there are there'll always be somewhat of a black market novelty though. Yeah But right now to salis point, which is true that they they're taxing it so heavily that If you have a connection to a farmer right now, like you have a relationship with growers Like it's I don't go to cannabis clubs, dude The cannabis clubs are so overpriced and it's b-grade marijuana that's in there because the guys can still get Killer prices on the black market So most of these guys that have been doing girls whatever that have been doing this forever Are not taking it into cannabis clubs because they can sell it on the black market for a higher price And consumers will pay it because they're getting a better quality product. Here's what I think I think if it goes national if the federal if it becomes legal federally Companies like morrow borough or companies that own morrow borough. I forgot what the name was. Altria or something like that Philip Morris. No, it's not anymore. So they think they changed the name But they're they will crush because they have everything set up already Yeah, everything already set up all the fields and everything and they'll just boom jump in and just in fact If I'm not mistaken They were already positioning themselves to be ready For something like that to happen because it was so I I always wonder like if that's how it's going to happen because Imagine when like alcohol and I wish I remember the history on alcohol better like obviously it wasn't around at the time but like What companies were already doing it illegally and then that transition into going legal Versus other companies that were doing something completely different But just had a lot of power Decided to get into it because that's the one thing that Okay, Philip Morris has been doing cigarettes for a long time Well growing tobacco and farming tobacco is not the same as farming marijuana. No, but aren't there a lot of commonalities though Not really not with it. No not with it. There's more commonalities with a tomato plant than there are with a tobacco plant So if someone grows tomatoes and they have a massive tomato farm And then they want to make the switch over to marijuana They have a better chance of hitting it out the park and dominating. I'll call my dad But no, I see because you have to you have to factor in there's got to be a growth curve on now Does that I mean they felt Morris has the money to go out and buy the best growers and then eventually attract All that so I do believe that at one point they'll eventually dominate But do you really think that they'll come out the gates right away and be able to mass produce a better cheaper Version of what's out there. You know, I read some articles on this a while ago. I'm trying to find what company owns them I guess it manufactured. I guess you're right. Philip Morris still But I was I was reading an article and I can't find it about how they were positioning themselves on what it looked like And they were saying that they but you're right. I actually don't know as much as I don't know a whole whole bunch In terms of what that would look like. I think they have the distribution channels I think that makes a big difference. Yeah, and I and I definitely connections I definitely think they're going to go make millions upon billions of dollars doing it Will that eliminate black market completely or other other producers? I don't know Like I think there's going to be a market for connoisseur Cannabis still and until and I don't know if Philip Morris will even try and be that Maybe they'll just look at the bigger pie and go like listen We just want to get 80 of everybody the main the people that are all thinking about trying it Or they dabble in a little bit the high volume high heavily processed Yeah, exactly. And then there's going to be the people that have very particular. They want to organically grow and they want the highest Whatever you have your bud light, right? And then you have your expensive IPA down. Yeah So that so I think it's going to look like that I think we're going to we're going to have some big players like that But they're going to have a lot of these smaller IPA like locally type of grown type of stuff Dude speaking of plants. I read by the way, I just want everybody to know this Human progress org is a phenomenal site if you want to read Really interesting current stuff on science and you know new studies and stuff like that So they came out. So check this out, right on humans. I read this article about Trees being genetically modified to capture more carbon from the air Really really crazy stuff. So they they have a they are able to Genetically modified through using genes that you find in algae They'll put them in trees and the trees will grow 50 faster And capture far more carbon That's crazy. I love actionable things like to clean the environment, right? Now now instead of just talking about it throw money in the air Yes, now what I was thinking I'm trying to figure out where I actually posted it somewhere But I'm trying to find the article one thing that I found that was very interesting Is I'm like, okay, how's this going to work? Where are they going to plant them? Like, how's this all going to happen? What they would do and oh by the way, they were also genetically modifying these trees to not produce pollen because of the fear of Contaminating the other trees everywhere else. So you'll own these trees They'll plant them only if you plant them will they be there? So I thought that was pretty fascinating But then the and they're very resilient They're going to take less water like all the stuff that they're enjoying How long is their lifespan is that they just grow super fast So you could they just produce weight and they live a long time like a normal tree So I was reading about like what this business model will look like and apparently what they were talking about was Going to private landowners who would allow them to grow these trees Then you get what are called carbon credits from the government because it's capturing so much carbon And then they would share the profits with the landowner So you own a bunch of land this company comes on grows all these trees Government gives them money and you share it with them It's actually like actionable steps in that direction and so there's just taxing us Bill Gates who bought a bunch of land he did. He's just sitting on it right now. He did he bought all kinds That's interesting because I was watching some show and it was one of those Oh, you know what it was like, um, what do you call those places that Are like a homestead you've ever heard of homestead? Yeah. Yeah. So there's like these guys that go in and they help these people Um improve their homestead and they do all this kind of renovations and stuff But vermont was uh where they were at and I didn't realize that like I guess over the years like 80 of vermont is all like Forest now like it since it's not that highly populated like there's so many trees that That grew in that state alone. It's like it's so much of an effect of of population whether or not we have like this dense Um forest in um in places like that now do they have things to show like the quality of air and stuff over there? Yeah, of course, right? Yeah, exactly. It's just like it's kind of one of those interesting things like if we left Everything else would just flourish. You know, wow, that's why yeah what I was what I was uh, you know about these these trees My big concern was what if it uh, what if it's so sturdy and so fast growing that it takes over You know, it's just like oh Yeah Again, they were talking about how to prevent you know stuff like that from happening. So I think this is brilliant It's absolutely brilliant. You're growing a tree. Yeah, it's capturing more carbon They don't die They don't they don't produce as many like falling leaves and shit, which ends up releasing more company's trading company That's the thing. So we have that ambulance like algae makes a huge Uh, it converts a carbon doesn't it and it filters it out for oxygen. So it's like there's Simple solutions to all these things. There's also like, I mean, didn't they develop some kind of bacteria that eats Oil in the ocean for oil spills and things like that. This just doesn't get like no innovation innovation is how we're Innovation isn't that wasn't it? Tony who you're talking to robins who said that about how he like for every like Like he's done the math on flying his jet or doing those things like what it would it planted that many trees to Basically Yeah to offset his footprint footprint. I think that was I thought that was pretty cool. The current tech nuclear Power is pretty remarkable. They can actually use the waste from old nuclear power plants As fuel and they produce a tremendously Small amount of of waste compared to the amount of power That they produce isn't it funny how we're just inundated with we're just such bad Organisms. No, we're doing so much bad stuff. There's something there's this movement I don't know if it's an actual movement, but I've seen posts about it about people who are trying to tell other people Not to have kids to save the earth like who's gonna enjoy the earth. There's no one here Also, it's also based on a lot of false information. For example, the whole like we're running out of space Did you guys know that we could take the entire population of earth the whole population of earth? Put them in texas and we would have population density of new york city We don't have a population problem. That's true. Yes. That's true. That can't be right That's a hundred percent true and you could take the entire population of the world Put them all the way into texas. I don't realize how big texas is and it would be It would have the the population density of new york city. Whoa. Yeah, that's a crazy stat. Yeah, that is a crazy stat We also have more oil available to us today than we did in the 70s or even 60s Why because the new technologies of reaching that oil? So they actually scientists thought we were gonna reach what was called peak oil In the 1980s meaning the amount of oil we're going to produce The cost was going to offset the energy or whatever But because of modern technology like fracking, um, they're able to access more oil. So just it's this is all Not not saying it's perfect, but when you go on that website, it breaks things down and you can start to see like Oh, I love that website. Yeah, it's like what what is actually happening and what kind of advances innovations are out there Plus it's a good news site. Every other site's a bad Everything's bad news man. I'm still tripping out on the whole world could fit in texas. That's wild Do you think like china and india alone like that'd be impossible? Yes Yeah, and then to think that it would just be as populated as new york city. Yes, that is crazy Well, the vast majority of of the population in most countries is concentrated into very small areas america is a very Generally, we have big metropolitan areas, but generally speaking We have very like there's very wide. Yeah, there's so much space Wide open land and that completely highlights how crazy this I would have never guessed it's even closer I know I don't have a great trivia question. I know I should have kept it that way Anyway, speaking of good news Magic Moon has a new flavor. Yeah Doug was munching on it. What is it honey nut? Yeah, honey nut. What does it taste like? Uh, well taste I don't know if it tastes like any other cereal I've had but it definitely has a honey flavor Have you ever had you've obviously had honey nut Cheerios? It's been so many years. I had the honeycomb It looks like honeycomb to me. It kind of reminds me of that. Okay. That's what I thought it would be like I was oh Doug put the box in the frame. I want people to see there You are and the reason why I want people to see is because magic spoon whoever designs They're like psychedelic They're on mushrooms or something like that. There's always like somebody writing something weird. Yeah, like Explore writing a b I've every I've actually never asked them. I appreciate that though. Why why that? Why do they why do they make them like that? Dude, because think about all those like Saturday, sunday morning. Yeah Yeah, those type of sugar cereals. They always have these wild psychedelic toucan and uh, Rabbits and yeah Unicorn whatever the fuck Doug read off the macros again on that Uh for me. What is it? What's the serving size and what are the macros on? Yes one cup 140 calories Chocula seven grams total fat Uh 14 grams carbs of which one is a one gram of sugar And 13 grams of protein for a cup of cereal for 13 grams of protein. I see protein I see you eat it dry a lot. Is that how you normally do it? No, so today. I didn't bring a lunch Oh, I completely forgot to bring up lunch while I just didn't take the time to make it So this is my go-to, you know if I can't get food easily So rather than go to a restaurant and get something I Don't end up eating too much I thought I discovered a secret when I ate dry cereal for the first time watching tv I was like, this is a snack too I don't need milk for this and I just sit there with my hand in the box, you know I love dry cereal. Yeah, I know my mom would like it with milk too much. Throw some milk in there Anyway, did you guys see um This weekend was the uh, wwe with wrassle mania, right? I thought I heard it And did you say you watched it with your boy? Uh, was that the first time you watched wrassle mania with him? Oh, he's watched it before I saw is that the one ronda rousey came out to and and lifted triple h in the air Okay, so she's strong as shit to do that by the way. That's a big view and she literally Paul made an appearance. Was he impressive? Yes Look at his clip dug if you go to his instagram He did it. He did a little 15 20 second clip of his match And for sure Practiced for a while to get to the get to yeah, he looked great dude. He's winning me over I don't know the guys so he's probably I don't know if he's a dick or what? I like him. I like him Man, what are they not getting their hands? That's why I like that's what I'm saying Bro, he his his new drink or whatever with the prime or whatever it is. He got he partnered up with wwe Is that an energy drink? Wow, I don't it's like, um I think it's like a low-cal or no-cal type of drink like hydration drinks So I think it's like a like like a Gatorade, but like no-cal. I think right. Is that right? Okay, thank you. Yeah, I'm just I'm just guessing right now. There he is right there and oh with the wwe suplex Wow, that's pretty good. Who's he fighting there? He did a stereo. He he got off the ropes He did so now wasn't he a wrestler in high school? Yeah. Yeah, so he's yeah, so he knows how to grapple But it doesn't matter. I mean this is yeah, you can tell that these are wwe moves Did he obviously practice them? Yeah, there's there's some pictures of him jumping in the air jumping over the doot Oh, look at that and doing the splits. He jumped off the ropes like And he acts. Yeah, he knows how to act Wow, good for him. It's like a natural fit for him. Yeah, dude. This this guy's not going he's not going away That's what I'm saying. Oh, and he's only he just turned like 27. Did he really? Yeah, he's 27 years old man Oh, man, I mean, I don't know what his him and his brother's net worth are up to but boy You know before 30 years old these guys are In in route to be, you know, billionaire. He's not going away. No, he's already made a lot of smart decisions at this point At first I thought it was like one of those Flash in the pan, you know social media whatever but no they see his pokemon his pokemon card that he has You know the worth on that thing. No, how much so it's a 5.5 million shut your face. Yeah for a card for a pokemon card No way So it's like it's like the rarest pokemon card that exists There's only like 34 in the world and there's the only one 10 meant or meant 10 I don't know the order I supposed to say that in right the perfect car with no It's it completely like no indentions. No scuffs centered perfect. Whatever. That's what a perfect How much did he buy it for? He paid 5 million. No, he didn't. Yes. Wow Yeah, he paid 5.4 million. I think it's what he paid for. I have no idea what it supposedly is Can you imagine writing a check for five million dollars for a pokemon pokemon of all cards? Yeah, it's like come on Yeah, it made it it made it in the Guinness world record I think it's like one of the most expensive cards ever even purchased. I just what a what a crazy one Did he get burned on another one that was in authenticated or like it was on a box He bought a bunch of them. So I heard that was I heard that was fake. Is that okay Stage I don't know if it's true. Yeah stage. Yeah, that's what I heard too that it was stage just to hype it up Yeah, I think that was I think that was all part of his thing to hype this up Was to show that he got screwed by like and I think he paid for that by the way I think it was like two million dollars or something like that. Oh, oh, you know what? I forgot to tell you guys Did you guys hear about with the the automakers that agreed to end car sale gas car sales? Yeah, the gm did it and so forward gm. Yeah Mercedes Benz And some others. That's why I was so hard up on the Cadillac Exactly because it'll it'll be the last the last it'll be the last gas powered supercharged v8 engine that the GM GM makes so here's all of them. It's for GM Mercedes Volvo Jaguar Land Rover and then a Chinese automaker. They're gonna. They're gonna eliminate gas car sales globally by 2040 So I know I know it's better for the earth and I know that Is it though? They may I know right so let's look at the data Just so I sent you guys. Did you guys watch that video? I sent of the the electric truck that smoked the raptor and the Oh, well, dude, that's the thing. I mean the torque and they're fast. They're so fast Tesla's are ridiculous and she's wrong. I mean the the second clip they pulled Instant power the boat they pulled a boat and beat a Ford Raptor That is crazy. You don't need to wait to build or for light power The raptor is the it's electric combustion takes a bit. Yeah. No, this is instantaneous. Yeah right now Yeah, I mean you guys have been in a Tesla a fast. Have you guys been in the platter? Yeah, the ludicrous beat or have you done that? You're stuck to your seat You're stuck. Yeah, but it doesn't have the same Sound you know the sound in the field We're old guys, bro. Our kids are gonna grow up. I like the smell and the sound and the rumbling dude. It's just like You know, like how do you sign about that? Like You know like cool, but it's not it's not fucking something with balls Our kids our kids are gonna and their kids are gonna make fun of us. Oh The car's so loud. Oh, there's grandpa. Oh, I love it. Just like 10 years ago The the you still can make fun of the electric cars because this the gas powered monsters would smoke them But it's flipped completely. Yeah, like now you have these like little electric cars Here comes grandpa. Justin's killing more polar bears in his fucking truck Get in there little priest Oh They're fast dude It's because we grew up with cars being a particular. You know how long it can't tell you something It took me so long to accept driving a sports car. That's not stick shift I hated that. Like, why would you buy a sports car not stick? I love now I had I accept it now because you can't find any other stick shift. No, nobody can drive them It's it's the best, uh, uh car theft insurance, right? Like if you get a manual transmission. It's totally true Yeah, I might my my sister's boyfriend's a police officer and he goes, oh, yeah, dude Because if you have a stick you can leave the cars open Kind of having one of those in San Francisco. Nobody if someone steals it too. We know. Oh, it was 50 year old perp You gotta go find the 50 year old car thief You know, that's going on narrows it down Anyway, speaking of aging so uh, so I have you know I'm trying to like work through this aging process when I work out be smart with my exercise and my nutrition Or whatever you guys know, I've dropped my calories because I just over 210 for me. Just isn't comfortable You're just I just I just I I was pushing my my gut health was good So I was pushing my weight and I was excited about that But then my sleep was crap and I was snoring and was pissing off my wife and just didn't feel comfortable So I cut calories and I've been uh doing a few things with supplements to kind of offset some of that stuff And you guys know, I've been mixing the uh organified green juice with the red juice So I used to call that the Christmas blend, right? I mix that been drinking that pretty regularly And I do notice a difference in my Joints when I drink it on a regular basis and I drink it during my workout So I have it during my workout Because the the red juice has got some Some stuff that'll give you a little bit energy. It's not really stimulant But I do notice my joints are a little bit better when I take it and I haven't taken to this consistency I actually felt really the other day you you accidentally stole my water bottle and foot your shit in my water bottle But I actually did enjoy the drink. It was actually kind of a good mix you did You did the I think the red juice the element tea. Is that what else is that it was a good little mix What flavors did you do to make it taste like that? That was it. No, what water melon element element Oh, so it's watermelon watermelon and then the red juice. Yeah, it ended up being you were so mad I accidentally got his cup. You know what I mean? Not like bro. It was our our nice aluminum bottle your bottles like mine. Yeah, like that only have stickers on mine. So, you know, it's mine I know I don't do any fruity sweet tasting anything in those because I want it to be fresh for the water And I'm so paranoid about it tasting off. I guess why I will never do shakes But then you drink it and then later on your life the drink was good. My veins are busting out. What's going on? I've actually always I really do enjoy the the red juice. It gives me a really it's not a stimulant like no Like a pre-workout. It's got it's got adaptogens in it. So it's different kind of energy Yeah, it is different. It's and if you were to compare it to that you just you're not going to feel the same thing No, that's why I combine it with caffeine You know one of the stimulants you know when I find myself using it is when I when I need a little bit of pick me up But then I'm doing a later in the afternoon work. Yes, because I do not want to use great idea afternoon If I'm working out at two three or four o'clock in the afternoon There is no way I'm doing like a legion pre-workout or any other Too strong and I'm not gonna sleep well at night, but I can do the red juice Yes, I can do the red juice it'll give me a little bit of an energy I'll feel good afterwards and then I still can come down for sleeping. That's how I I combine it with caffeine But if I'm going off caffeine I take it by itself and it takes the edge off because you know what? It's like going off caffeine. It's a terrible. So like I'm like, all right Do I go cold turkey or I Slowly go and I have right now I'm having to try to cut it back because my my milligrams are getting too high And the red juice takes the edge off. 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Go check that out All right, here comes the rest of the show first question is from class a fit viking shit I guess this sht at the end What are some exercises that can build a thicker neck a neck? You know why I picked this question dick neck because I there were literally Three people asked the same question and this question always pops up Every time we post on our instagram like, you know how to get a bigger neck and we never really talk about it So and i'm sure there's not a lot of people interested in building a thicker neck However, in some sports a strong neck is extremely important football is probably the most common one If you're a grappler, it's very important and then If you build a lot of muscle I've seen this before with dudes where they build like big chest back and shoulders have this little skinny neck looks really weird So I think there's an aesthetic component too that goes with it a little bit But building the neck is actually rather simple. It's a it actually responds tremendously fast To resistance training like really fast like if you strengthen your neck You'll notice the muscle gain pretty quick on there Some of the most basic exercises are literally you lay on a bench with your head kind of hanging off the bench And you do chin to chest That's one you lay on your side ear to shoulder is another one and then you lay on your stomach And then you go in the opposite direction and a very basic exercise I think you should dress though for I think there is a Misconception to building the neck though because I think there is Direct building the neck and then there's muscles that support the neck that people would categorize as a thicker neck or billion Like traps. Yes traps get bigger. It makes your neck look like yeah I think and I and I think that's what most people that want to build unless you're those sports, right because you're right wrestling and football Uh, and that's very sport specific boxing. You're the one. That's a good point Those there's there's more than that even if there's a handful of sports We're having a very strong neck makes sense But that's not somebody who wants to look like a thicker neck or the people that I think that are like Trying to look like they have a thicker neck. That's more traps I would say that trap development that is going to give you that aesthetic Aesthetically looking thick neck. Yeah, don't you think I mean when they say neck. I think neck because I mean it was on our instagram and people will typically say traps But yeah, the average person When someone has big traps the average person goes they have a big neck But it's just the traps and that's I mean, that's you know Farmer carries and shrugs and cleans. That's a big part of the support system Yeah, I mean in in terms of what we did in football I mean, we did a lot of isometrics for neck Yeah, I feel like is probably the safest approach because I don't know I get a little weary when people start trying to train their neck with weights Uh, because they can overdo it and it can be real problematic I'm glad you said that do not add resistance until you're already really good and really strong So and you don't need resistance. Look, I tell you what you take the average person Have them hang their head off a bench and do chin to chin to chest 20 reps in their own fire. They can't do anything Yeah, I mean we would be in quadruped and in one person would be kind of, you know Place in their hand in a position where they they'd push against it and they resist it You know up down and like basically, you know the the main movements That you're going to be responsible with your neck and then one product that's out there now that I do I think has some promise in this direction was the halo if you guys have seen that it goes around your head and It actually Clips on to a rubber band and then you can go through a lot of the Neck rotations and things with resistance. That's good resistance. So there's a way to do it We used to just use a hand towel Yep, just use a hand towel like this and then you know holding it against guys driving this way hold it down This way guys lifting up hold down isometrics are great for now. Yeah, and then it's just you you're doing isometrics on it That's what we see. I just really think that someone who asks this I think are looking for the way it looks and You can get a strong neck by doing all these things we're talking about But nothing is going to make the the neck area look thicker than building traps Like building your traps up is going to give you that will do it But let me tell you get a thick neck you ever look at pictures of mike tyson when he was a kid He did so many neck exercise. So he was a boxer that understood in the early days and a big neck Yeah, they understood he understood if I have a strong neck I'm harder to knock out because I'm going to get less snap right to my head when somebody hits me And there's pictures of him when he's 18 and his neck is like this It's bigger than his than his face Uh, I used to do in in grappling we used to do things like neck bridges and all the old school wrestling exercises But again, you know, I caution people to use resistance because Like this it's part of your spine. So people the spine goes all the way up And if you train end range of motion and the end range of motion for you is what your spine can handle You're going to cause problems. Yeah, it should be what the muscles can necessarily handle Not necessarily with the one that when the you know, the segments of the of the joints of the neck Don't let you go any further and some people will do that with resistance and then you can get some issues This kind of goes into some of the old timey lists. I pay attention to a lot of these these guys that um They they get back to like what old strongmen used to do and so there's some with with chains and like a bit That you basically bite on to and you do a dead list with your uh with your neck Yeah, that's old school. It's it's crazy, but it it makes sense I mean in terms of like also like really strengthening your jaw and your neck all at the same time It's like, you know, there's a connection there, right? There's a synergistic action there where in fact when you're doing Neck exercises You want to close your jaw and you want to press your tongue to the roof of your mouth And there's muscles that get activated That's all connected there. It's it's interesting like if you if you get to that level of Of a specification not just like your major muscle groups like you get to the nuances It all helps and contributes now I imagine you guys would never do this unless it was very specific, right? I only ever did neck specific exercises with wrestlers jiu-jitsu guys Football players. I never did them with anybody unless there was like a specific I got a physical therapist to tell me do this exercise with them for their neck. Otherwise, I you know We're okay for the most part But I mean like football alone like wear a helmet people don't realize that you build Put a football helmet on and wear it for three hours and then just wear it Just wear it for three. I'll take it off your neck sores hell the next day. You're not used to caring I actually even the the few athletes that I did train I didn't even mess with exercises like that It just it wasn't on the hierarchy of things I need to do with them It wasn't even up there like hey, we need to definitely work on your neck It was like there's so many other things that I need to work on with them. It's like that You know, we never even crossed that so I don't think I trained that with any clients I did with my buddies that were into football and helping them out But I never trained a client. Yeah, if you're just trying to get a bigger neck to look better or whatever It's no resistance. Just hang off the edge of the bench. Do it like that. That's all you need And in my experience again, uh, the neck responds very quickly It seems to have muscles that hypertrophy very quickly You know in relation to other areas Next question is from dam look at her fat ass 420 What is going on? I didn't pick that for the name by the way. That's the question Suspect right now. Yeah, for sure 420 it ends with it's like a 13 year old kid that wrote that Are there advantages to sometimes but not often going to technical or even muscular failure? Yeah, there is I rarely recommend it though because People have a tough time with failing and their form not going to crap Also, it's super intense explain this question because it's worded a little in other words Are there advantages to going to failure technical failure sometimes? Oh, okay. Yeah Very rarely. Yeah, and I would say there are ways to program it in in fact I've been experimenting quite a bit and it's too early for me to comment on what I'm Finding with programming with this But trained to failure first off you got to make sure your form is perfect always It's a higher risk because as you're as you fail your form wants to go down immediately But but it is a very fast way to gain strength and muscle And now I hate saying that because some people not watching this way cool I'm gonna go do that you're gonna over train real fast because it fries the shit out of your body More than anything else. I mean I could do You know 15 sets for a body part or I could do two sets to failure and the fatigue you get from real failure Is on a whole another level but it does There are some if you program it right there are some interesting Effects including muscle building And strengthening because it's more high risk. I mean these are usually techniques we say for advanced lifters So I I don't really even I mean, I don't even think about it. Otherwise unless I have Athletes that specifically want to test out for something or I want to test them out on something very specifically Just to see how well the programming is going Because they're going to be testing their body to the limits as they perform But otherwise for me it There's just so much more value in not going into failure and continually progressing that why would I interrupt that process It's it's because we still measure the success of the workout by the soreness And it is a great way to get really fucking sore If and so I think that's I mean I as a young as a young kid and an early trainer I used to train of failure all the time. Yeah, same here And now it's I can't even tell you the last time I did a set or an exercise to failure And I know you're programming it right now. I'm playing with it But I If you were you have to be very specific with it and you have to be very judicious with it And I'm finding that there's a specific way to do it Where it'll work because very quickly does a fry your body very quickly. I just I answered a question on my My live questions were about the other day about this and just said you could literally build the most amazing physique And never once trained a failure. You could build the most amazing physique and never once a good failure It's just for most people and that's including advanced people. So even if you're advanced I think it's a it's a good it's a good principle to try and train by because It most people overuse it. It's like it's like having a crazy amount of horsepower on a vehicle And you know taking and throttling it down in the corner It's like you you don't you're better off going into that corner slow and taking it And yes, because you have an extra hundred horsepower you could be using to get you through that You step on it and you're more likely to spin out So you're better off taking it slow and coming out the other way. Yeah, I know I've been experimenting with some programming myself I've had Doug Experiment with some of it Andrew Doug, you notice the same thing very fast Scamped muscle gains, but there's limitations. Oh very much. So yeah, you have to be very careful with it Definitely and that's the thing like first off going to failure. You have to there's more skill involved It's not just the technique. Yes, the form of technique need to be perfect So you need to know how to fail with perfect technique, which is a totally different mindset You also number two Failures a lot further than you think especially with compound lifts. You're like, oh, I don't know if I could do another one Oh, shit. I can't I don't know if I could do and you do another one failures Usually like three or four reps further sometimes on some of these lifts But also here's a big one You need to know how to dump the weight or the bar or how to do it safely Yes, and a lot of people do not know how to do that. I've seen people get pinned under bars Because they never practiced what happens if I can't get up with this Oh, I forgot about that until I was like testing out some my school kids. I'm like, okay We're going to spend time just showing you how to dump the bar. Yes How to be able to get out of a hairy situation Because I people just don't They don't get educated on on you know, how to fail properly, which is a huge part of it If you're going to test yourself to a limit Next question is from rich aha bb What's the best way to keep your butt from shooting up on deadlifts? You know, one of the best Now this is a training issue and you can train Um your body in a way to to strengthen that bottom position But one of the best cues I ever gave someone to help them with this Was rather than lifting the bar I told someone to imagine that they're pushing their feet through the floor Yeah And that's all about driving your feet that helped a lot Because I think when you're just trying to lift the butt comes up and then Versus pushing the feet through and it keeps you more grounded And that cue as is worked pretty well for me with with clients So I think the the problem is you got to get the hamstrings tight So when you get somebody who their their butt lifts up like that, they're loose They're still loose and they're trying to pick the bar up to kind of your point And the the hips just naturally rise right up But if you so I like to get somebody and and have them slide their hips back until they feel their hamstrings Super super tight and then they're leaning over to grab the bar And then they're actually thinking about you say driving the floor I think about i'm thrusting my hips forward and it's like a lever But if you're if you haven't got that hamster the hamstring really tight So the hips are sitting back here And if they are at all if they're if this is loose then and the and then you go to lift the bar up Then you have this kind of like Ass goes up first then the then it gets tight and then you pull up versus I load them by sliding them back hamstring gets really tight Then you grab the arms make sure the arms really tight and then all i'm thinking about is those hips coming forward Not trying to lift the bar up I think the people squatting that squat down to grab the bar in the deadlift position That's where you get in this position and I also think uh take the slack off the bar helps with that So rather than what that means is like if you're down for the deadlift You're pulling on it enough to where you feel the bar is gonna is giving you a little tightness Then you get in position So there's already some tension there rather than having zero tension then go right into the already lifting without anything coming off the ground yet Yes, yeah, that that's kind of how I've been trying to help queue and What I've noticed is is the ones where I'll see the butt kind of travel up a bit You know unnaturally like they're they're trying to rip with their upper body. Yeah trying to rip it Yeah, and so just to really focus on the legs driving everything up and like smashing those feet Yeah, well you want to do you get down you get in your position you Take the slack off the bar activate your lats In other words, you're you're tightening you're pulling the shoulder down activating the lights a little bit of slack And then think push my legs through the floor that usually does it Now if you get stuck and your hips still rise go lighter Go lighter and don't allow your butt to lift until the bar starts to come off the floor And so you might have to slow the rep down You might have to go much lighter to get that because it's a bad habit to break some people deadlift like that So often that they don't feel comfortable unless their butt comes up the other thing Yeah, I try to get them to to look facing out to first before we go right? This is a lot of times looking down and then not noticing that their their butts already coming up Yeah, this is kind of hard to articulate this on a podcast because there's so many moving parts here But the the secret is to to be Locked and stiff everywhere tight. Yeah Yeah, if you're if you're loose at all is when you're going to see Movement like this and the muscle that I think that needs to be tight in the situation is the hamstrings You need to be so you need to be sat back And your hips need to be up high enough already that you can feel Tension on the ham's you should feel kind of a stretch on your hamstrings and into the glute already Before you're even pulling up and then you like your point take the slack out of the bar So your arms are stiff and rigid and then at that point everything is stiff and rigid And then all you're thinking about is thrusting the hips forward and that'll pull that bar up If you're loose in the hips at all Then the natural thing is to go up Yeah, I had a client once where this was just an issue an issue and we would go lighter and then Anytime we go heavier would start happening. So I switched them to trap bar deadlifts and trap bar Is it's easier to stay low with the butt the the weight is you know You're holding the handles next to your your legs rather than the front of your squatted position a little bit Yes, and then we practice we got good with the trap bar Then we went to the straight bar and then we fixed the issues. That's another thing you can you can try to do Next question is from landi deon Thoughts on bodybuilding and building muscle on a keto diet It's possible, but not desirable not a fan very very hard to do. You know, I've tried I've eaten a rough one. I've go on and off keto diets a lot. Haven't done really a strict one a long time It's really hard to eat enough calories to bulk On keto. It's like so satiating and I get so like oh End of eating tons of like avocados and you know like just Lots of fat to try to get those calories up there And I've done it and studies will show that you can build muscle doing it But it's just it's hard to digest all of that and it's very very satiating. It's really tough Listen building muscle is already really hard Trying to do it to fit in a very specific diet. I don't care if it's keto or vegan or Paleo. Yeah, paleo. It doesn't matter like giving yourself even more restrictions to do something that is already difficult is just Not a fan. That's my thoughts on it and they go and it's uh, not just keto I remember when we were so limited I remember when we were messing with an atom and back then you were I was all bodybuildered out at that time Yeah, and I remember you eating you were like, dude, I have to eat like Like how many grams of fat you're like I have to eat like 200 or 300 grams of fat just to do this and I was eating I was like, this can't be good. All I'm eating butter and avocado all day long And macadamia nuts just so I could get to my calorie intake in order to bulk Because at that time my maintenance calories were like around 4,040 500 into bulk I need to be at 5,000 and when I have this very limited Menu to choose from I found myself just like eating chunks of butter or eating just avocado after avocado or Things I'm like, this is not ideal like well now and that by the way, I didn't do that like intentionally I'm gonna try and bulk on keto We were all just in the middle of our training careers where everybody was at and we were talking about keto You just experiment and we were experimenting with keto and that was my critique I'd come back to the guys and be like man this for leaning out I think this diet's not bad because again, it's a restrictive diet So you're restricting down to only a few things you can have and so for someone who's trying to cut Not a bad strategy to use this diet, but for someone who's trying to bulk and build muscle I mean to limit your menu is only going to make it that much more difficult Plus ketosis Reduces anaerobic power. This is this is a fact. Okay, so Studies show this you're not going to be as strong With heavy lifts now you can still have lots of stamina low-end stamina There's studies that show that people on ketogenic diets are fine. In fact, they might even be great at just long distance low intensity type activity But when it comes to strength or power There's a clear drop off when you are in ketosis and if you're trying to build muscle You kind of want that right you want that strength you want that pump right? It's also hard to get a pump on ketosis. So I don't think it's a great bulking diet at all Now who's it good for it would be good for the person who has to eat keto For whatever medical reason or whatever fat adapted aerobic athletes You know, I've seen that work for them, but it takes a long time to get fat adapted and really Be able to shuttle and use that as fuel. So it's it's again It's it's a difficult one to do anything performance wise or gaining muscle wise. 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