 Welcome to the DL Debates, thanks so much for tuning in, thanks so much for tuning in, now live on Hyder Media or back via the podcast, I'm here with Joe Dex as ever, Joe's keep me right, give me a bit of training so bear with me if I make a bit of a mess up twiddling knobs and that, I'll be getting there as the weeks go by, but Joe I won't want to see you go to be honest, I hope you stay alone for a while yet, let me tell you. What was I going to say, as I said thanks so much for tuning in, we're going to discuss all matters GA in the county and across the northwest and of course the big game at the Donald Park yesterday, pre-match, we had the honour of Dr McDade by the St Junans club, I spoke with Dr McDade to be an interview coming up later, I also spoke with county captain Patrick McBurdy, as I said two interviews were coming up later in the show, now just from the weekend there don't you go ladies, losing the game in the league, tough defeat against Cork for Maxi Curran's charges, now obviously a team introduction and a lot of experienced players to come back, in the hurling there was two games in the hurling cup or under 20s and 17s, we're both defeated by Derry in the pre-championship competition, our minor footballers who had a victory over Turon 12 points to 10, good stuff from Kane, Barrett's charges there, now as I say I'm thrilled to say or thrilled should I say, my Galway friends would have said yesterday at the park, thrilled to be joined by a man here in studio that knows plenty about Galway, having won a Hogan cup there with Jarlis, I seen Jarlis at Chum years ago, since then he's had a brilliant playing career with club and county and he's now St Junans chairman, it's John Haran, John, welcome to the show, thanks very much, Brendan, great to be here. And join us via Zoom, a man that earns his cross with Irish news, always insightful, he knows his GA, it's the one and only Cajarro Keane Cajarro, are you lad? Good Brendan, John, how's things? Thanks for joining us Cajarro, great, great stuff, John just a word yesterday from a club perspective on the park, we were blessed by the weather, there was a great bulls out in the park, donning over backs to the wall and it was another brilliant occasion in there Keane, round the Eurons club between the pre-match, the very entertainment and up in the clubhouse after, it was a great day. It was Brendan, yeah I suppose from the club's point of view, we were trying to mark it as honouring Dr Mcday, the name of the stand, I know you have an interview coming up for Dr James so we weren't dwelling that there too much but no, it was great Brendan, for the club, it's great for the club to be able to host the Big Inter county game once a year and we got all the help from the volunteers, as you say the sun made it, it was a great day and great atmosphere in the stand there in the last five minutes, the place was happening when Gawie went up and then he all came down and Gawie went up and we were just trying to get that last point so it was great for the club, Brendan, the place looked well, Vincent and Andy always have it sparkling and moya, green and cahill and everyone, I don't want to start naming names because I'll leave someone out but all the volunteers, you know, whenever the club's the same, Brendan McCool's there, Belly, Shannon when it's their turn, you know everyone wants to put their best foot forward and you know showcase their facilities so we were delighted with yesterday. Isn't it fully, John, just the flip, you know there's a lot of doom and gloom in Donegal last week, particularly you know after the second half against Monaghan, you know we're like where are we going and just as the week went on or even actually for Monday I was kind of thinking you know what, we're at home, the home venues are counting a lot and there was a different buzz from our team all together, used to listen to a full back down, we're top draw, it was probably one of our strongest lines of the pinch and unusually it was our forwards that maybe didn't capitalize on the on the possession or chances we had. Exactly, Brendan, we had loads of possession and no I agree with you coming into the match, you know I thought at the start of the week, you know we looked very bad last week against Monaghan that second half collapsed and where were we going to get the scores and who was going to stand up but you know I think Brendan we are lacking a bit of quality, there's a few men missing, Michael Murphy's you know we're tired, we're going to be mentioning that forever maybe but maybe we have to stop mentioning it and just get on with it and Paddy McBurdy been injured so there's a few setbacks but you know he couldn't question the boys commitment, Jeffsy Brendan was just great that's all you can ask, like if a team goes out and gives us it all and gets stuck in and shows a bit of hunger you know fair enough like I've seen them against and Oma against their own brand and they were very we were shocking you know that's called spade of spade, we were shocked and never even put a slap on to their owner got stuck in you know and that's that's disheartening for supporters at least yesterday they went out and tried, if they had a bit of convoys point had I went over the bar fair enough it would have been hard to take but you could have went home and said well they still got stuck and they gave it a go you know they know they had pride in it yesterday and that's what they did yesterday and probably deserved to want it just didn't take our chance to spend I think it's something like 13 whites and a couple into the goalkeeper's chest and that but you couldn't fault that any goal players for their commitment which is you know which is admirable. Yeah and Kehar just from that outside you can give us the truth now I know you're always well you can hit us hard if you want I mean 120 last week you know we talk about defence our issues seem to be at the back we definitely tightened up 19 we can see that yesterday as I say created a host of chances along with it but still if you're looking at that league table Kehar you know it's not looking great you know you've tough game away the Armagh and then you know it's going to be difficult there because they're looking at us thinking if they can beat us that might put them in a position to to stay up Kehar so listen still going to be a difficult finish to the for the league for Donegal. It's a tough finish to the league there's there's the good thing for Donegal is there's a lot of teams with tough finishes to the league and it's so tight a carry or a third or four points through on our bottom on two so there's so much wiggle room for anything to happen in the next three weeks that that plays into maybe the hands of a Donegal who you know have probably struggled away but I thought it was a great point yesterday I thought you can look at it two ways been five points up in the first half only taking a point but from two points down when they found themselves two points down it was a great it was a great recovery to come back and get a draw out of it I'm sure they would have loved the win is the only thing it's not it's not an easy place to go up to Armagh at the minute they're they're going to find it's they're going to find it tough up there in in the athletic grounds I think I think Armagh of the sides that are threatened at the minute in the table I think Armagh the one that I would definitely say would get out of it I think Armagh will will find their way out of it we have we have a great comfort I don't see them as as really being relegation threatened even though they're sitting third from bottom and and three points because like three of their four games have been away from home fixture this hasn't been too keen to them now they've done they go all and go away both coming to the athletic grounds and then to Rowan and Haley Park on my last day so do you see Donny got one and our man Saturday night I don't and it leaves it then obviously of my old home and Ross coming away in your last two you're going to need at least two points out of that the bubble burst a wee bit on Ross coming yesterday the bubble has shown no signs of burst no mayo for Donny go I think they need I think realistically they probably need something out of Saturday night and I don't know that they'll get it that's that's that's it's a fair enough point come back just to our play yesterday and where our issues seem to be you know you've got to say Pat another brilliant game Kern McCall and McCall again who looked like you know we look very explosive this morning but that could happen John I guess we're maybe looking too deep and the different games where all there's all these problems the four lads predict they three and a fall back then really stuck to their man and stuck to their task yesterday no golly obviously missing a couple of better players but can you see signs are going to mean when we went um the what we went eight was it eight up and the first half we got five up five up yeah three yeah three so yeah when we went when that goal went in John you know if we had a stabilized end that ball went in the pitch remember Hughie maybe could have grabbed it kind of stuck at his feet I think the donny go along got the hand out and really flicked it on the tune you know it was a great funnest pattern could do don't know about it if we hadn't been able to sit in that lead a small bit John you've seen such a different team than donny go from the week previous so there's still signs there and I think Kehar's right this in Armaa I think they were they were over tactic they got their tactics too much against Kerry particularly when they're two up John they started to play keep ball if they had a went for Kerry then they were there to be beaten as well so I don't think anybody's that far ahead of anybody else but certainly that's a very settled physical Armaa team and it's something I suppose then again John listen as our team grows there's going to be mistakes and issues but that's the kind of game that's going to bring us on let's say we could go up and compete compete with Armaa now I know that sounds like maybe something a few years ago you would never have said but at the minute this team if they're going up there in Armaa side as Kehar was saying they're a good solid team if we can come up and compete with them and take something from the game there's still a chance in the last two games I think so Brent I think you know looking at Brent I think it's going to come down into the Roscommon game you know well five points keep us up you know and that's taking that we go to Roscommon needing the one on the last day and I don't care how good Roscommon are going you know they're not world beaters they're at our standard we would should be very confident of going to Roscommon and beating them in the last day if we need to now whether five points keeps us up I won't we don't know it's going to be hard in that that ground spread and it's going to be hard and to beat me oh when they're flying but that's we're hard to beat in balba face so there's a few you know when you write like someone asked me yesterday morning and I said you know when did he go all his backs or to the wall they can always come up with a performance that you don't expect and I was hoping that's what we got yesterday and that's what we did get because I wasn't expecting them to one but I said there's always a chance that you know that they'll rise to the location that's what they did uh yeah I think I thought Arsene Gallinman was it was a big plus for us yesterday I know he came on he started the game two and suppose he needs a bit more game time but he's a real threat and he's a bit of drive about him and he goes at the defense and you know kick the nice point with the left one with the right and you know we can try and one a few freeze you think Jimmy Brown's coming into a bit of form but just up front I think we struggled to break down the blanket defense you know it's a lot of the you know going out to the wing and the man coming off the shoulder and trying to break through but we don't have a lot of power coming through the middle you know we just don't seem to have that power the way you know your big man from McDade there from from Galway was driving through the middle a couple of times and got fouled we seem to be lacking that there but and saying that Ben this car says when we were two points down we hadn't scored in the second half I think there might have been 65 minutes on the clock you know when we hadn't scored in the second half and we were looking I couldn't see where we were going to get a score so the boys dug in you know credit Jason McGee you know we took on that last shot and pulled it over the bar and and of course Gallans before that when we looked they were like we were going to be beat at that time and of course Conroy's kick at the end so listen you when you take it all in context I think John the point you've been happy enough in the end even though missed chances aside you know missed chances absolutely when you look back Ben and you look like there's a few people on Twitter today with us with the stats of the game and this predicted score on the amount of possession to any goal had I think someone said it should have been 15 90 to any goal that should have been the score that we had a lot more possession than go away but at the same time been a lot of our possession we can hold on to the ball a long time but we're going over and back over and back outside the 45 not making a lot of progress not looking very dangerous then we punch a hole and unfortunately yesterday just the shot selection maybe a few times was off and we hit the post twice in the second half which was unfortunate so you know plenty to work on so you know Paddy Carr overall Ben will take the point and and see where it leaves us at the end of the season yeah yeah certainly listen car i'm really interested to hear your views on the the dairy revolution that's coming out we're we're looking across here with a bit of fear this worry giller side in squad these he's putting the giller i'm going to get your views not just after this short break all right no go ahead hello thanks for waiting could you hold the line yeah no problem no how can i help you hi i'm looking to make some updates to my insurance 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you what are you reading and the adverse is the opposition that they've been playing in division two and of course with with doubling coming up next maybe that'll be more of a a barometer well that that's always the caveat the fact that they're in division two you know and they're playing teams who would be seen at this stage as as a level beneath them largely um given that they're they're running all their champions um the league obviously dairy ended up with division four at a stage and and are still fighting their way out of that that particular hole but like i think one win from the last three probably more likely puts them up now so even should they lose to doubling on saturday i think dairy will still go up go up comfortably enough uh but doubling doubling's probably a game that they would i think they will relish i know like tickets are already scarce um which is not not the norm for for games and dairy but i think dairy probably need that game as well because they could be lulling them on themselves into a false sense of maybe where they're at and doubling aren't firing and maybe it won't tell dairy exactly where they're at either but it'll give them a better indication than any other game that they'll play in division two because obviously till dare fall not the face of the earth um they have to go to cork on the last day of whether there's anything riding on it by that stage um they might get the game that they would like out of that so this is the game that'll tell us where the area at the grand scheme and like i think they're they're right in there um there's still the concern of whether you're just able to change it up i think the problem in the other island semi-final last year was that you know when they found themselves five or six points behind they didn't really have an alternative um there's nothing really to turf a ball on that we don't have a damien kommer uh and it is you know they're so well coached so well they play such a i know people might love looking at it but from a coaching point of view it's an outstanding style of football um but it um if you're struggling in the game and if you're behind in the game that's when the test will come for dairy down the line and tell me just just a last year you're so much made about mcguigan up front do you see that um you know every team needs at least a double pronged attack with you know you would hope for maybe three or more if you can get it but aethan darty is he is he the real deal kaha in terms of being that second uh scoring forward that's going to you know help dairy along with mcguigan well i think aethan to be fair aethan probably not so much in that role but but he's certainly a scorer of goals um the way the way that he runs angles and he's so direct every time he gets the ball he's looking for the black spot um he will hurt teams he definitely will score goals he's not going to be a fellow that's going to kick six points in a game ever um but he's such a big goal threat but i suppose nyle lachlan has been in there and chips away with a few scores but probably the man that's been badly overlooked a benna here and you know i just watched the kill their game last night when i come home from from clonus and benny heron could easily have had a hat trick in the first half at the post keeper made a great save fired one just over the bar like he literally could have had a hat trick um and benny you know i think teams maybe still take benny lightly and he's such a goal threat in there he got big goals and big games last year as well and he's carried that on again a different type of forward and it's to say there you don't have a comer that they can turf it out into the sky and and hope we're a reign on nyle or or that type of a player but there's enough of a goal threat about them that you know the idea of there being a defensive team or not a big scoring team is is complete nonsense at at this stage the style in which they play the way in which they build scores is maybe different but they're a big scoring team until we carry the bounce on that minor one in all Ireland team you know likes a young Murray you know Lachlan obviously McAvoy there's slotted in at fall back allowing them to have rogers always out the pitch you see he chipped them with a point the last thing just on the defensive just a quick look at the table the way they've only conceded 35 they're way ahead of anybody in the four divisions defensively so there's something there's a bit something built in their car isn't there i mean obviously listen they had a brillian season all that in challenge we know that we just thought in that semi maybe they were a bit limited but they seem like they are building a serious squad there to maybe have the answers in a game like that yeah look they have the best defense in Ireland across the four divisions at the moment they have the best defense in Ireland last year across the four divisions haha it's no surprise that that that is the the foundation on which they're they're building things but you know the i suppose the promising thing out of the all out of minor team Rory Kana took what he wanted earlier when McAvoy has been thrown in done brilliantly at fallback this year and that's loud Brent Rogers to go and play at midfield nothing you know they've nothing else off that team in terms of the starting 15 at the minute yet Matthew Downey will come through Mark Doherty Niall Adonal Lachlan Murray are on the panel but there's nobody else starting so that team is yet to come through and obviously the Derry have been a big feature at minor level for about six seven years you know now where they've had all their titles and all their finals and it's not it's not just one it is just one all Ireland one on team but there's loads of strong minor teams that have come through so you talk about a conveyor belt you know Derry should by rights only get stronger over the next five or six years and that you know Chrissie McCague Chrissie McCague is the only 30 plus sorry Benny Herron as well Chrissie and Benny are the only 30 plus in the team so I think Chrissie is going to go on forever I would imagine Chrissie will play till the 70 I think yeah Chrissie is a while to go yet so look there's there's a good few years of road left in the in the team but she don't know the factors who gets injured who goes there who travels where Rory Gallagher stays all that you don't know what the future holds but at the minute it looks bright I'm just wondering about the people in Derry who who voted against them now I would say they're keeping their head well well like it's a funny thing like always they had rares it's had the odd time yeah the the protest and the fight was never to be fair it was never against Rory Gallagher and there would have been wee butts and pieces you would have heard people saying ah we're going to play this real defensive football and and that but the the issue was the process by which the county board went about appointing them it wasn't the man himself it wasn't it wasn't that it was Rory Gallagher it was the way that it was done was the issue and I suppose Rory then by virtue of being the man sort of got dragged into that right but do you know what the good witness favour well like yeah I forgot about that side of the car I thought it was more just about him himself and that's interesting good man John Rory Gallagher's basically taking the gym and beginners playbook he's got a hungry young team we've heard about the training now I would say along with the drilled nature they're better players than the likes of Meath and Kildare they're physically on another level they are so close to professionalism and what they're doing you know is that just something you can take for a team for four or five years and just go at that can that last long term do you think or is that disrespectful they say to Rory because obviously the big handed don't go all that time but it's certainly pretty much the same the same idea it seems to be the the same playbook bread and doesn't that comparison is going to be made if it's any go on 11 with McGinnis coming you know one of the first also titled and getting close to Dublin and then coming back in 12 and having developed their game a bit more and blowing everyone out of the water and that hard hard running and and you know super fit and that seems to be what Rory Gallagher's doing with Derry like he's got them super fit he's got a young hungry team and when you get a bit of success Ben it's easy to keep it going and as Cahar said the age profile of the team is very good certainly Ben you can only do that for so long we've seen the you know you know the drawbacks of that in Danygall where a team comes just comes to a natural conclusion they're burned out they're done out but you know you have to temper that Ben with Danygall and Derry they don't have we don't Derry one other and Danygall have two so you know you can't give out about you know Jim McGinnis burning lads out he got he got he won us in all Ireland we need anyone a second one with him you know what I mean like there are 130 years or whatever's going on so same with Derry like a Rory Gallagher can get one all Ireland I'd say they'll you know they'll take it for the next 50 years Ben because you don't know when the next one's coming if you'll ever get one so it probably can't be sustained Ben and you know for amateur players to train mad like that there but they certainly will do it for three four years and if they're getting a bit of success it's easy to keep it going because the boys are hungry and the boys are coming behind are hungry so yeah you know it'll be interesting to see how they're going like there's a lot of people Ben on Twitter and that and saying that they're the best coach team in the country you know so that's going to be interesting see how can they kick on a wee bit further this year you know because there's no doubt Ben that they were disappointing against Golly and that you know when it was put up to them and that all Ireland's couldn't as Kehar said they were kind of a one-trick pony and once that didn't work you know they didn't seem to have a plan B up their sleeve but I'm sure this year you know no more than McGinnis in 2011 didn't he go all developed and sure Rory is working way quietly there with Derry and they're going to have something up their sleeve for the summer certainly so hang on Kehar there just after this break I want to throw a question to you just about our friends and Throne and that woes that they're facing back after these breaks Sheridan security now introducing zero wire smart alarm systems zero wire zero mess and a real piece of mind with a simple press of a button your alarm can be set or on set or download the free app and control it from your phone call us today on zero seven four nine one two six zero two five and get your alarm from two hundred and ninety nine 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sarah's ladder canny serving food you'll love till 9 p.m. daily in sarah's kitchen and there's free admission entertainment every weekend welcome back welcome back as i say i'm joined by john harn in the studio caro kian on the line car i've just sent you before the break there um this cloud it's hanging over to ruin that shows no sign of uh going away you know another poor performance now admittedly this and may over flying buried them with goals um you know uh logan fergal logan come out of sin this may need to find a way to find it quick and they do certainly cahard in many ways that that the recent success at all island victory is now i suppose working against them in this current season in terms of people going well where is that where is it all island and time where is it going wrong what what's your take on it yeah funny look at a good study of them last week sort of trying to look at certainly what's wrong on the pitch at the minute um and there's just well when i looked at them last week what i saw was that we i lack of urgency about them and i lack of peace about the way that they were attacking teams and just very ponderous and they were they weren't hurting anybody and yeah i'll watch the game on saturday evening the the first 17 minutes were the best 17 minutes that toronto played this year they only got three points out of it which was the downside they should have had more but they played some real fast nice stuff the problem was that as soon as may over the first goal you could see how false all of that confidence was you and and that tells you that there's a massive drain in their confidence at the minute like they as soon as the the first goal and then all of the energy and all of the pace that they brought the first 17 minutes just went completely out of the game and they ended up getting big by 10 points and it could have been more and i mean it's it's really worrying for them because you know at this stage they've had you know where do they fix it because they've had so long now to fix it it's been going on since the first since they came home off the team holiday last year where you keep waiting for to ruin the reappear and it went on dragged on through the league and you thought what will come and championship it didn't come in championship you thought well should they'll get the one third they'll fix it for the start of next year they haven't fixed it they now face carry at home they have monahan in clonus where monahan very very seldom news and then they have our man the last day i i find it hard to see to rune stand up the way that things are going i don't see them i don't see them beating carry on on the wiki end but that is the thing we throw in it's there you know the ross commonly game at the start of this year was the first time since the all ironing final that they had fewer than 14 of the players that they used in all ironing final on the field so you know there's a load of subs have left and that has definitely affected their training quality and their a and b games and all that stuff but they're still enough there for a core of its own team to be doing so much better than they're doing and it just you know there's obviously a mass when you watch them Saturday evening there's a massive crisis of confidence there and carry you you'd think in last year with with the way the season ended you know i don't remember now i know there's been different ways that the championship has happened that season but i don't remember all island champions being beaten you know and having a second chance being beaten again maybe you know more to me you do obviously know a lot more of me it's that's your that's your game but i can't remember now if you if you said that after a parish league surely that was enough to give them the kickstart this is if the same hangover in this season it's so hard to put your finger on it you know that day we played them we were very out of sorts and they kind of bossed us and they were just better what they did and it was a very kind of routine performance i felt on their heart you know for years they seemed to be playing under a bit of a cloud there wasn't a proper expression and all that and then i say when when the two lads uh took over there seemed to be that bounce from them and say you forgive them for last year but i just can't see what uh is the issue this year surely there must be that same core in there to you know as you said whatever about subs leaving in a and b games the core of an all island one and team is is on that pitch and you're just wondering surely that experience stands to them that they can produce performances we just not seeing them it should it should um obviously one of the big issues they've had like for me one of the big things that fergo logan and brandor did when they came in was was moving Peter heart into half backline i thought he was outstanding when they won the all island he was there's maybe their best player over the over the course of the all island one in season and he played in a role and it was built around a you know a very strong defensive unit but at the minute they're absolutely way to the world defensively they're you know they're getting ripped apart down the middle they're not really playing any system and so it's it's hard for the individuals to shine like even yeah i was really impressed with cal mccain in january in the mccana cup i saw him in the flesh against there and i know it's mccana cup but i thought there's a fella who who's had a lot of injury troubles looked really really sharp i think he kicked five points from playing all big the night there he played them um and he played the first half of the ross calming game and fall forward against the one through and never kicked him a ball he touched the ball four times in the first half of it took half and half time come out against donnie gall played on the 45 playing five-yard handpass of square not hurting donnie gall again has for 17 minutes on saturday evening we're angry ran over the top a couple of male defenders but then it's finishing let him down on a couple occasions and his performance fell away and kind of symptomatic of the whole of of tarones performance so they're not getting the best out of the players that they have for sure whether that's the players themselves whether it's the position but also you know you can't be considered the kind of goals through one or considered the matter like me or literally ran right through the middle of the menu and the hessians was a lovely finish but how easy was it to walk in there far far too easy and they have that to fix before they fix anything else yeah a lot of things they fix how you listen the work in progress you should care listen thanks for much for joining us this evening that as ever i'll catch up with the as the season goes on and the the serious ball starts to be played no bother thanks lads appreciate that's okay in there every news column is great to talk from great to talk to him this evening and say at the top of the show there i spoke with donnie gall captain patrick me birdie after the game history i'll get him clicked on here now joe's going to give me a hand goodbye joe good old patrick he gives me update on his his current injury and where donnie galler at after the game i thought we were the better team overall uh 10 minutes to go there it didn't look good um if you were to give me the draw then i would have taken it um if you give me the draw with with paul coroner i stand over the free at the end i would have taken it but i think if you look back in the game i think we were probably five six point better team um second half just those those wides and the ball's drop shot really killed this but this is another point on the board and it makes next Saturday night against our ma even even bigger yeah but a lot of wides in the game and you're right you can point you so many reasons why we could have won the game but then at the end we were we were clinging on a small but um just after last week the second half you know but a doom and gloom about it it's a fairly kind of inexperienced defense but we grew into the game today much like we did at balba fe and really the home venue as we've seen last week all the home teams won and the home venue counted so much today in terms of the crowd getting behind you and that we have the energy coming back into the team i momentum today was massive um you know i suppose we didn't get that in clonus last week um i felt it started with the full back line there brinden uh mark corn and keeland did their jobs every any ball that went in that it came out and it's supposed to give us a platform and uh we'll go into our ma next week with a with a bit more pep in our step because it's going to be a massive challenge you know we've seen there last night in the tv our ma very physical side and uh one of the one of the favorites for us directly so so yeah in fact listen it's delighted to see you getting the captaincy and of course most experienced man in there and a certain definite leader in the dressing room they made the horror news about the hamstring um what's what's the update on on where you're at um update really uh just happened uh second half in the trolling game um went for scan uh it was off the bone so had to go to london for a consultation uh last two weeks ago and um booked in for surgery there so had to start your last tuesday so at the minute like brace for six weeks and uh yeah it's going to be it's going to be a good good bit into the championship before before i'll be kicking the ball i would say you know yeah is it is it realistic for me to think you could come back and play in the time we were all hoping you do but is it realistic between the time the layoff and getting back to kind of that type of sharpness can you aim for something is it is that something that's possible uh it's probably going to be the round robins round robin games listen that's being realistic um i was given a four to five month timeline so i'll be pushing for the four obviously but um listen it's one man down next man up really listen it doesn't matter really who it is there's there's good young lads in there and they're they're they're really really hard workers listen this is a point and no doubt about it and all i can do is try and stay in the best ship i can get back as quick as i can and you know if we are still in the competition to still be there thereabouts i still expect us to do well and also championship that's the kind of that's what that's what we aim for in that group there's no reason why we still going to go on in Ulster you know so um it's just about me doing the best i can in terms of me self and then trying to lead the boys on from from a different kind of um you still you still have that role to play yeah i was lucky i was lucky enough for the lads to give me the role they did and um i still feel feel i have something to give that way but um this will still be a trend every every night beat every game and uh you know hope i can give them something that way so if we could if we could one one the next two games there's still a chance we could stay in the league yeah listen expose ourselves and i'm i think they're on three as well uh that makes it a massive game um i'm right with that three on three um so it's a massive game and then we've made all then at home so that's another uh game in mccool park so listen it's all the fight for listen um we're right there um so uh we're probably not going to be up near the top of it but you know in terms of maintaining our division one status i think we're very very much in the race yes good man patrick we wish him a speedy recovery uh john we'll play this week clip now john harnes been meditating here he's been waiting patiently we're going to hear from the famous jimmy the dock uh after he had to stand named after him in a normal park yesterday here's what he had to say well i am exceptionally if that's the right word i wouldn't explain how honored i would be to have my my name associated with the st junan's club after all this uh after all this time came here in 77 but never ever expected anything uh such as this um but you know it's a tremendous honor i as i said on my and the smart short speech i had over there i had i was just wondering is this act is this actually happening you know so i said you know here i am but i am standing here i'm looking at that wall over there and my name is on that on that wall on that plaque on that wall over there so it must be true and with that you know as i said i'm i'm deeply honored to the st junan's club and to in general the people of donny gall uh for for honor and me such and there's one thing i would say about donny gall people uh you know even in my time in medicine and even in my time in the in the door and whatnot i've always found that if you do something for donny gall people then you're never be forgotten and you know however that may be the you know you're invited to a b or say you whatnot but you know that this this here is puts the cap on everything you know your name is on the wall there and it's visible from actually two or three of the walls down there uh the the opening date is is written there so i mean they've done everything here in st junan's and really i owe the st junan's club an awful lot because as i said the donny gall people in general but your own club in particular it's nice to be honored but yeah we might say we owe you an awful lot between the life and the medical provision helping everybody in the litter can area your life in the g a and of course you get into politics became a td with all the way to the cabinet and minister and when you were minister jimmy you helped so many sporting organizations in the county i suppose that's the good will that come back to you no more so than our club here st junan's and you're a massive part of playing st junan's over the year but certainly jimmy been in a position to help so many over your time must must give you a great feeling and to be honored here today i mean the owners are all ours to be honest to me well i go back to what what i said and what you've actually said as well as whenever you actually do something for donny gall people you're always inclined to get it you're always inclined to get it back and and as and that is the that is a fact but at the time that i was in politics which is the most of the time when you had a few bob to spend you know i was conscious of the fact that that's you know health in general is how fit you are and how you keep yourself and how and it's okay from people coming in and said oh you know i i've got it i'm not feeling too well what not but you you also have to look after yourself and fitness is one of the best things that you can do it and you can take a look here we have the facility here but that building over there which is built by the county council that building there actually came to something over 22 million at the time it's now one of the finest one of the finest buildings you'll find anywhere at it is the largest uh from regards to the pools and all the those type of facilities that you have there is one of the best and at this little part of the town here uh turned into being exceptionally very very good place to actually be putting your investments because you've got everything on the on the on site here and we have another pitch coming up down the road there now you know i suppose as you mentioned at the start you know that all the changes you've seen at the club here all the characters that you've met and played with and had great times with you know the changes you've seen over the years here at the club and around the club area well probably no club i'm not so sure any club in dunny goll has seen more changes than than sydunas have and and and and they are all for the better but there's always been the population has always been here so there's was you could see a lot easier for to do in letter candy than perhaps in a lot of a lot of other clubs but there was there was tough times here i mean when i remember when i came here first of all the the clubhouse here there was absolutely nothing here i think there was a tennis court there was where the clubhouse was now and the dressing room that's all we had was a dressing room which had upstairs and downstairs and cold water shower and a purse and coming from it all that's one of my exact exactly a purse sentence coming from it all and i remember one time coming in here when i was vice chairman i think it was i'm proposed that we would actually build a clubhouse and it took quite a lot of persuasion at the time but i do remember a great character there bobby morray at the time and bobby was one of the elder statesman of the club and i said you know what are we going bobby i put up excuse me mr chairman i was a chairman at the time yes i said excuse me mr chairman he said to me like still we'll hear him what are we going to do with this with this changing rooms and i said to him bobby i said you know we're gonna let the crows fly through it and bobby said hey no it's been terming man we're gonna come in here and change this right i can still hear his words they always come back to me whenever i see the the ground here now you know that you had the characters like that who are who who felt that they were the ones that were running the thing they are not that there was any antipathy but i remember i took a while for to get it but bobby was one of those great characters that were there of course you had other ones like you had them again and you had uh hard ones and well well you had dodo and all them there and mcky sweeney got a mercy and who's who's funeral john hannigan and all those people terrific a terrific teams down through the years yeah it's interesting to me that you know we talk about sport and what it is and and all the planets on the pitch but your memories of it is very much everything outside of that you know the characters you met the people the times that you had you know the sport of course is what we all train for and play for but really g clubs and what was created here and what you were such a part of that's so much bigger than anything that that happens on the pitch absolutely i mean there's there's there's well there's so many different differences here now they've got so many different teams here now and of course as i said again beforehand that the population is a huge population from which to draw them from but the characters yeah i mean the the characters when they are like joe onceon and frankie cambell and joe you know pg hoey people like that they are they would become the characters that i grew up with we okay we played a bit of football as well as leslie megan get a leslie megan as well yeah of course i better put leslie oh no leslie megan again of course there and i wash him well yeah another one yeah i wash him well and i hope he's doing well and he congratulated me there on by by phone or text or whatever it is you know when this was announced and you know so there's still i still not don't keep in touch much and much now but certainly would always get an odd call from him and vice versa you know yeah well listen as a union's man jimmy i just want to well it's good to have yourself here as well you're an exceptional addition well i mean i'm not blowing up but she might cut that but you are an exceptional addition to the team there's absolutely no doubt about it i mean you are you're absolutely fearless you know you actually nearly reminded me you know we mickey mickey swinney was uh was what we called mickey was a fellow who got the ball in his hands or his chest and mickey just turned and headed for gold that's it that's what's about to head down and just to call him head the ball yeah i've been called that a few times have you all right yeah there are no but i mean the addition of people like yourself and whatnot i mean they all just you know we're really a good team and you had people like you know exceptional players like yourself county players you know he's a usual county players and you know that they were developed and you know okay the facilities are one thing but you have to have the players as well that's it that's it jimmy listen again congratulations on the on the stand in honor of you which appreciated you have a good evening we're all going back into the clubhouse now there's a bit of a killie band get on there there is that's exactly right there's a few more stories i might leave this mic on jimmy do that thanks very much thank you thank you yeah well i didn't leave the mic on but uh i was shouting away john you can hear my voice was a big night you're allowing me for most of it john i want to get your words on jimmy just after this break all right hang about a minute thank you stop highland radio are going 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trendsetters spreading because it's a it's a it's a brave move to go ahead and name the stand after someone that's still alive it seems that there be not the thing to do unfortunately too often people wait until the man that they want to honor or the woman or whatever is dead and gone and they can't they can't you know bask in the glory of it like if you just look across the road brennik the the athletic track is called after danie mcdade and danie's still fit and healthy and going strong and why not he was a double olympian for arland and the man's put his life and soul into lyric and the athletics and the track's named after him and so and why not so why not the dr james mcdade stand when he's still there because you know he did there's no doubt brennik i said this over the last week in different places on newspapers or whatever that the stand wouldn't be there without him it's as simple as that you know the club didn't have that kind of money to go and build a facility like that we have money surey to build the two new pitches and upgrade things we would have built small thresholds or whatever but only for only for the doctor at that time as minister for sport and to give us the backing and tells to go ahead and plan for and and put in the planning application and x y and z and he went back as he would make sure that the money was there for so what was brilliant and there's no doubt about it that brennik allowed uh enter county football to come back to dr allen park i think the last game was in 1972 and then i suppose more games started to go to to mccool park it started to become the main county ground and then once the stand was built and we got the the place up and running again and going well we came back i think in 2007 that great day that you had the great game against carry i think that was the first game back in dr allen park since 1972 so for the town and the businesses and the club and everyone that's a great lift as i said they had that one big day every year where you where you get to host the county the county team and a nice and league game but i think then as the weekend has gone on and here i'm talking to a few people today and you know there's definitely a sense that st june's was was honour and doctor we did kind of even on behalf of the people of larkinney and you know people have done a goal and it wasn't just ourselves that we're doing you know and other people thought it was very fitting and you know i think we've always been trendsetters brennik and the club i think you know we're progressive in that point of view that we don't sit back and you know follow the herds you know we're big enough to make our own decisions and sometimes bold decisions and you know we're not afraid to press on and that's what i like about the club there's good people there and they're always looking to drive it on and they're not afraid to make the hard decisions and i think you know naming the stand was a bold one because we don't think anyone else has done it around the country so it might set a trend brennik where all our clubs are whoever i think that you know there's people in their community or whatever that deserve it and please god that you know with it you know it was a brilliant idea john and you know i've seen so many things over the time but see as jimmy walked out you know asthan and me charlie harvey it was so great to see him out there you know and just talking to him and seeing him there and you know everything there's so many club stalwarts around there but as jimmy walked out his family were all there there was a bit of emotion from him but the warmth from the crowd there john if we videoed on the phone there you know there was such a nice feeling you know you're on a bit i've said last week about the bit of doom and gloom and that suddenly from even from that point of view you were back to saying yes some results in the pitch and all that of course that's what we're we're always aiming for but this is over and above and and anyways jimmy got many things from many sporting organizations but it was fun it was felt more like a dunny goll thing nearly yes that we were thanking him yeah exactly and it was just it wasn't just a st. junior thing but a wider letter to anything and in the town because he even read their friend in the paper last week with her i think don't call the councillors you know nominate that they're new road out by the clan we there are you know we named after tommy morphey a local resident who's still there long time business man tommy and rightly so and you know why why not because as i said we wait too often to to the people that are gone and then it's maybe the only other family that can get the recognition so it was lovely to do it for the doc and you know it went down well and we've got great feedback from us so you know on to the next as he said on to the next project now we're but we're getting uh diggers ready to go over and for the new pitch down at the back of the of the training pitch so we're getting a new pitch there and how does that happen john purely from is it is it fallen raising and part do you apply for grants or how do we got it we got this we've got the sports capital grant last year for 150 000 so that'll go a good bit towards it and we've we had the we had the cards are all there before christmas was it i'm getting mixed up now yeah before christmas allie harry was pushing that as always allie so there's a bit of money in the bank but it'll soon be spent once the diggers come in and you know no doubt there'll be something then again for us to raise money for but we'll keep going and listen but never every every da clubs the same like terminal down there now with volunteer labor you see them there on facebook they're building a big massive new clubhouse and you know fair play to them and it's everyone's driving on and building new pitches and convoy with a big draw they're going to so everyone's you know we're all we're all the same you know we're all trying to trying to uh just better the thing and everyone's in the same boat and just work hard and keep it going no so i always say brothers keep ga alive and that Kenny that's our main objective is to drive on galey games because there's a lot of competition out there provide the facilities for the youngsters and let them enjoy it yeah we all you harvey about you'll you'll never be too far wrong i learned john if there's a man to keep things going it's allie boy that's the man all right john listen thanks so much for coming up this evening that was fantastic there john harn st unit's chairman that's wrapping up the show again tonight i hope you enjoyed it i want to thank my guests of course john kaha okay and that joined us on zoom um the interviews we had from jimmy mcdeod of course and county captain patty mcbirdie stay tuned of course for jimmy and paul the monday night sessions i want to thank jill dex of course for producing the show head of sport 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