 Our next caller is Jenna from North Carolina. Hi Jenna, how can we help you? Hey, I'm good. So I had a question for you guys. I'm a fitness instructor, primarily right now, teaching Zumba Step and a core and targeted class. And I'm actually getting ready to start Phase 2 tonight of the split program. And just kind of wanted to get your input listening to you guys a lot on your podcast about how to best incorporate these exercises and these programs while teaching classes. How many, how many classes a week are you teaching right now? Three total. Okay. Three classes a week. That's not bad. And you've been doing that for a while? I have. I've been teaching classes for six, seven years now. Okay, your body's pretty adapted. You know, you're fine. I wouldn't add anything else. So I would teach the classes, do this map split, which is pretty high volume. If you find yourself feeling a little over-trained. Yeah, honestly, I think anabolic would have been a better place to start. Yeah, you might want to back off and do like maps anabolic. But if you've been doing it for a long time, sometimes, oftentimes, people's recovery gets real good. They're pretty adapted. I wouldn't add anything else though. I wouldn't do extra cardio. I wouldn't do any other extra workouts. Jen, is this your first maps program? Have you followed anything else? It is my first maps program. I love weightlifting. I used to do a lot of it when I was in the Marine Corps and I took a break from it for a while and kind of went onto my own program a little bit. And then I started listening to you guys and just really wanted to jump back into it. And so that's where I'm at. Oh, so you jump back into it with map split? Yeah, I would prefer. So we're going to give you maps. We're going to give you maps anabolic. I jumped back into it with my own program for about a year and then did maps split. Okay. Well, are you getting stronger right now with map split? Absolutely. Oh, well, you're fine. If you're getting stronger, absolutely. Yeah. If you're getting stronger, you're totally fine. And I just wouldn't add anything else. Strength is the best gauge. It's objective. If you're getting stronger, you're probably doing a lot of things right, but I definitely wouldn't add more. Now, here's the deal. After doing map split, you probably would benefit from going down in volume to a maps anabolic, believe it or not, just because it has so much volume, go down to maps anabolic and you'll probably get great strength things again. I would have preferred her there. I would have preferred, if it was my choice, I would put you on anabolic right now and then have you go to split afterwards. I just think that you, I just had this conversation with Katrina not that long ago because, you know, and to Sally's point, yes, you're getting results and stuff like that. So it's working, but it's like, if I can have you doing less volume and it's working and we're seeing great results, I would always rather that I would always rather us doing less work for the same or more results. So we have somewhere to go after that because the amount of volume in split is significantly higher than anabolic. So if I can get the same results strength wise for you with just doing maps anabolic, that allows me to progress you better when you go into split than if you go to split right now. And then we're trying to then we have to go backwards as far as volume. I would just, I mean, we're all sent it up. We'll send it over to you. So you have it personally. That's where I would like to see you first. But other than that, it sounds like, I mean, the amount of classwork you're doing, I actually think it's great at three, three hours a week is actually probably really great for you. And it's not a concern. It would only be a concern. I think if you were doing that every day or twice a day, every day, but the amount of cardio you're doing is actually probably really healthy, really good balance for you. And maps anabolic actually compliments that amount of training volume right now. And I think it would be perfect. Yeah, I can't disagree with you. Okay. Well, thanks, you guys. I really appreciate it. And I'm seriously in third, you know, enjoyed listening to you guys on the podcast. You guys are no BS straight to the point. And that's what people need. They need to stop reading on the internet a bunch of stuff and listening to you guys. Cause seriously, you guys have helped me out a ton. You're welcome. And you know, in Justin, I love his input because I know he was a huge Zumba guy back in the day. He still is. I haven't breaking that habit yet, man. I like to shake them hips. I love Zumba. I've been teaching it for eight years. I love it. Yeah, it's, it's, it looks like a lot of fun. I have two left feet though. If I tried doing something like that, I'd probably kill the person next to me. Thanks for calling in. Awesome, Joe. Thank you. Thanks. Bye. No problem. Yeah, you know, one thing that we have to also consider is that's why I asked like, how long have you been teaching classes like this? Like, you know, for example, and I always use this example, but, you know, my, my dad was a blue collar workers whole life. And when I would go to work with him as a teen and with his workers, like these guys had been working construction for, you know, decades doing their sleep now. Yeah. And it doesn't, it doesn't over train them because they're just, their bodies are so actually so efficient at it. Yeah. Exactly. And I mean, if I did, you know, eight hours a day of roofing or tile work or mixing cement, I'd be over trained to shit for like a whole year, you know? So you got to take that into account. Also, the fact that she's been doing it for so long, she's, you know, her body probably doesn't really, it doesn't phase her. I would, I would imagine. Yeah. It's really low too. I mean, I'd, even if she'd been doing it for a really long time, I might be a little more concerned if she was doing teaching too. I mean, I had, I taught a lot of class or taught a lot of, um, I coached a lot of clients that were instructors and it was always difficult with the ones that were teaching multiple classes. That's a day, right? Yeah. Well, it was always challenging to get them to go through their entire rest period. Yeah. I remember having to kind of really coach them on that. I mean, to progress them when they've been doing body pumping, Zumba, two, three times, you know, two, three hours a day, every day, like that's really, really tough to kind of, they need a reset where, I mean, she's, she's fine. I mean, what she's, what she's training right now is probably, and maps on a bulk, I think will compliment it so well. I agree.