 One of the things I will mention, I don't know if you follow what's going on here in DC, but the Biden infrastructure plan, which includes a big chunk for broadband, I think we're looking at $100 billion for broadband that's both for deployment and for adoption. But one of the elements of it is that it favors cooperatives and other non-commercial providers rather than the traditional commercial provider programs. So I would say that it was discouraging to talk to USDA, but there is something of a revolution and thinking that's going on here in DC in part because we've spent many billions of dollars over the last decade trying to get the larger commercial providers to build out in rural areas and they will very happily take the money, but not very happily then build the networks.