 Welcome once again to the breakfast here on Plos TV Africa and now let's go through the newspapers and see what major stories have made the headlines this morning. I'm going to be introducing our guests right after that. We'll start in this morning with the punch newspapers and the big one there says anti-open grazing law. Federal government backs her as planned suit against South Governors and police differ rather on enforcement. Nigerians whose rights are violated can go to court says AGF office. Law difficult to enforce without force headquarters back in says the police. Also on the punches morning COVID-19 World Bank approves $11.5 billion for Nigeria and others. AGF, Kaduna and others may face Lagos and Rivers on value-added tax appeal. Senate senior advocates disagree over INX power on e-transmission of results. Also on the punch Buhari lands in Addis Ababa for Ethiopia's Prime Minister's inauguration. Man carrying gun in viral video Army Rector, North Defense Minister says an aid. And also four Lagos Church worshipers killed the mountain flag as electricity cable snaps. Army begins three special operations against kidnapping rather banditry and others. And also Undo lecturer kidnapped on deplorable Akure-Adu Highway abductors demand 10 million Naira. Anambra killings. Two gone down DSS office burnt teaching hospital invaded. And that's most of the stories we've taken on the punch this morning. Let's see what we can find on the leadership newspapers. It says their attention in Southeast as gunmen set DSS, FRSC offices and vehicles ablaze. Joy Bekuy's Nehwi residents also burnt. Five killed in Kaduna and Anambra. Military begins new offensive in southern states, Benwe and troops repel attack on repentant terrorists. We can also find on the leadership this morning. Vandalism threatens vessel safety on Nigerian waters. Opposition unfair to APC and PNB says PGF and 2023 value-added tax top agenda of Southeast governor's meeting. We can also find on the leadership this morning. CBN to boost wheat production. And Ladi Williams dies of COVID-19 at 74. Moving on from the leadership, let's see what we can find on the daily independent newspapers. It says here Nigeria can raise $1 trillion from securitized assets. Analysts say it shouldn't have borrowed. Forex ban on 41 items misplaced priorities. Tension in the PDP over new zoning plan. Stakeholders move against governors. Nof central to produce national chairman. And it says also how McIndy and other governors swayed PDP chairmanship to north. We can also find here NEC metro open presidential ticket this week. 2023 Yahya Bello Dom's presidential bid lobbies APC leaders for VP slot. And also 2023 presidential ticket. Threatening APC's unity says the DG of PGF. Value-added tax. Adamawa, Kaduna, Plateau, BAC, FIRS to join in appeal against rivers and Lagos. And I think we can quickly squeeze in the daily trust newspapers. Lastly, Ghanian's resume hostility against Nigerian traders. 3,000 businessmen threatened over 3 billion Naira lost. And says government must act on legal, political, and economic technicalities. The diaspora commission says we are not aware of recent onslaught. A number of politicians go into hiding as IPOB unleashes terror. And also worry over acute shortage of airworthiness inspectors in airports. That row more northern states team up with the FIRS. All right, these are the big ones that we can find on the papers this morning. We'll say good morning to Mr. Tunde Kolawale. Thank you for joining us. Good morning, my brother. I was a weekend. It was fantastic. Thanks for joining us on the morning. No, she's not. I'm all by myself this morning. All right. So let's let's start. Yeah, let's start the conversation with something that I just read on the daily trust. It says a number of politicians going to hide in as IPOB unleashes terror. Let's start with that. There was also news of Joey Bokway's house gets an attack and burns in Naira over the weekend. And of course, the DSS and FRSC facilities also set ablaze. Let's start with what's going on in the southeast. Yeah, I'm not sure what's speaking. What is going on in the south, which is a very frightening thing. It's a thing that most Nigerians will not wish for in the first couple. It's also for some very, very serious thing that not just the Nigerian nation, but the people in the southeast. In fact, it's worth to say my aunt is busy for the people in the southeast. The advocate engaged in their normal commercial activity. Farmers cannot go to the farm. Children have been denied the opportunity to see for their local exam. This is not what you wish for any community to start experiencing. But it's a very difficult time for us as a people. What you say, the people in authority, the politicians, at the local government level, at the federal government level, and the state level are not happy matters. Rather than engaging dialogue, we are beating the drums of war. You say, for example, the speech that was delivered by Mr. President on the 65th Independence Anniversary of the Constitution. In my humble opinion, that speech is not completely at all. That speech doesn't look like the federal government is ready to go into an equation and dialogue and find solutions to what is happening in the southeast. And I'll say the times in the southeast number is challenging that we have in the southeast. It's not for any of the Nigerian courts to argue or to provide solutions for, or to adjudicate upon. I also do know from my reading of history that military solutions, or the deployment of military astronauts, to stamp out the activities of whoever may be engaged in the chemistry that we have in the country, is never a solution at all. And the graphic example to define an Afghanistan. For more than 20 years, all the Greek powers went to Afghanistan, took on the Raqqat-Taliban army, and the war randomly defeated. The Soviet Union was defeated. America has been defeated. The European Union has been defeated. It is not the might of the army and the weapon that the army carries that will give you victory. The fact that peace in the country is on the negotiation people. And earlier the federal government and the politicians who have been told and called to say that they will stamp out the root-like-made deals. They will teach them the language they understand. We'll sooner than later find out that they are just dreaming. Look at even the Bokram in protest. In the 10 years now, are we being able to wipe them out? Are we being able to find solutions to that randomly? Please, and please let's go to the negotiation people. A referendum is likely to be the most important thing to see for now. All right, but I want you to speak on, you know, why because from what the Daily Trust reports, it says Anambra politicians go into hiding. Do you think that this might be, the direction might be changing? And it seems like it's an attack on politicians and people who seem to be beneficiaries of government. Because, of course, if you look at the attack on Chike Akunili and also, well, he's very, very sad killing. And also, you know, there's some other politician who was attacked also in Nehwiyongpo, also, sometimes last week, the video clips of his Toyota Hilux, you know, that had been damaged. You know, so do you see this as a different narrative entirely? Well, it is unfortunate, some of those attacks that we've mentioned, say, for example, the attack on Chike Akunili, to the best of my knowledge of that, he is not a politician, he is a medical practitioner and the philanthropist, and Nehwiyongpo is very, very committed to these booklets. So, if you have that kind of information, and Nehwiyongpo was still alongside some other people, as I was coming back from where he went to receive an award, a two-mother award, on behalf of the wife, this death could be described as a kind of collateral damage. He may not have been the intended target after those two people, but to find out when may end, when Ban Bichisaka, we have seen the party is going on, at least anybody safe, because those who are carrying out this attack will not ask you questions before the unleash may end on you. For some of these other politicians like Igbo Kway and the rest of them, you and I, if you have been reading the outages and all that, you will realize that they have been making very, very inflammatory speeches. But this is not to say that whoever may be behind this may end, should go on banning the properties of those who are safe to their cause. Because what is happening in the South East today, will be like it's a kind of self-destruction. If you start banning your own property, if you start banning your own people, access to their funds, access to their markets and other, you are in the world, let you weaken them, before even Nehwiyongpo comes to take them out. That is not a good strategy for you to get whatever goal or to reach whatever destination that you are trying to achieve. So for that reason, I want to say that whoever may be behind this, should please stop the attack on the individuals, even on institutions, Dr. Martin Luther King and Gandhi in India have taught us that it is possible to achieve whatever goal that we want to achieve. Especially the goals of independence, especially the goals of freedom, especially the goals of justice, without engaging in violence. And what does he profit in that? When you set your own house on fire just because you merely want to kill a rat or a rodent that has been disturbing you within that house. To that extent, I am not in support of the attack on these types of individuals. But it is not impossible that certain process are trying to ensure that they create all the state infrastructure and facilities in the country, so that it becomes impossible to hold an election in a number of cases and in the country in 2023. The contact process has never eased their desire to ensure that these full patterns in the country and the forthcoming another election does not take place. And it's not possible to decide this to look. I have seen even the authoritarian leader in that to look. The nation is not the main issue now. Why would she see them to this issue? I will talk to the country before we start talking about the election. For the very good ways of people, I mean my sympathies to them, for the mother, for the community family, my sympathies to them too, but for very good ways in particular, we should please not add fuel to the fuel that is already pouring in the country, which will simply make sure something. Okay, all right. We'll move away from security challenges now. We might come back, but let's now move to the value-added tax controversy. It says on the Daily Independent, Adamawa, Kaduna, and Plato, back FIRS, and of course to join in Appeal Against Rivers and Lagos. I believe all your state has also you know tried to get in itself involved in that suit also, but you know let's get your views on that one. It's starting to seem like it is a northern states against you know the southern states in the suit concerning value-added tax. You can talk to me. What is up with the value-added tax? I would think that if Lagos states if the river states wants to start collecting their own value, the northern states should be happy and should also be enthusiastic to be able to be collecting their own value and then probably paying a percentage for the central to the federal government. But the satisfaction in the north are opposed to the moves that are made by river states and the moves that are made by Lagos states. These are the signals that the fact is that we are talking about that it is not been distributed or married that certain policies have advantage of certain states have advantage over some of these other states where the pork of the past is being generated. Otherwise why would they be opposed to states collecting back just like the personal income tax? After all, if what Lagos and river states are doing eventually scales to a certain name in the Supreme Court as I expect that it should end up in the Supreme Court, why should states are likely to benefit? Because in a handful of states, like I've always said, there is no state that is not by every nature here. The challenge as always is that certain policies for certain states are being too indolent in engaging in very rural collections and mapping out packages for internally, for evalue for internally generated revenue. Everybody is comfortable with the handle that is coming from a booter with the handle that is coming from the petroleum and states in the marginal market if the value are there that is coming from some of these states and others. And we can continue like that as a nature for example for forever. For example oil is no longer selling at the usual price in the international market because the old world is now looking at it and it is a magazine. Green energy not voted for oil. So why would any of the states in the north the opposite of this? It bothers me as a person. And more important in the show the issue of facts in my own bulletin just like the challenges I wear in the south is not also a matter for the courts to decide. Not at all. And I would have expected the federal government with the state government to set up a committee of experts to review, to look at these problems of facts and make recommendations and review the dependencies of every person. So when you say you go to court and the people in court experts in in economics or in transition these are the principles of law at best they might ask an amicus courier for messiah to come and address them and by the time those amicus courier messiah comes to address the Supreme Court on the court of parties they are speaking in economic smart ways which the courts will not understand. At the end of the day we won't find an amicable solution to this problem and it will be lingering for so long undermining the peace and stability of the nation So I would appeal to the federal government to quickly set up a committee of experts comprising of economics, lawyers, sociologists, sociologists and amicus past the experts and well-planned people who will be able to advise the government and make adequate proposals as regards to the issue of these facts and can be adequately solved in the testing test of both the federal government the state government and even the local government as it is today there's no justice in the collection and the decision of that and we need the quickie we need justice we need to do whatever is right for all the state of India to stand alone without defending or limiting on any other state or relying on the under that is confirmed actually on the sources that it could put it on the monthly decision at the end Well, let's see how it goes I think you know this is really just mostly about the interpretation of the what the constitution says you know and what steps must be taken after but of course we'll follow up and see where this leads us let's now go to Kogi state where governor Yahya Bello is in the news this morning on the daily independence deal it says Yahya Bello dumps presidential ambition and of course is lobbying to be made vice president it says I'm yet to make my ambition known says the governor so of course quickly share your thoughts on that one it's on the bottom left of the daily independent it says that 2023 Yahya Bello dumps presidential bid lobbies APC leaders for VP slot what are your thoughts Mr. Kuala Wali Hey, honestly speaking each time I read about Yahya Bello in the paper when I film on television constituting on good governance and the time to convince the resilience or tell the resilience it's my ambition of the president of vice president my heart please Yahya Bello told reminds me of fire jet during the fourth time as a governor Yahya Bello reminds me of Bukola Serachi as the governor of Kuala city we are a people who are well-educated we are a people who are well-serviced we are a people who are so young who all of us are helped to play policies in ways to be played we are a people that will think we will be able to bring development and enlightenment into governance into this country for law and the rules they have all failed us and given a ridicule for the not too young to rule a strategy and program and campaign an evil lord has come in that has been passed to allow more young people to come into governance Yahya Bello has been governor for more than four years now what can you really point out in Kogi state as the giant developmental site that he has brought to that plane the pensioners are not being paid salaries are not being paid in fact people sometimes are for commuters to sign because their salaries were not paid and unfortunately that development is new my friend, the friend that I have been local just to share with me and most time Yahya Bello is never in local jail he resides in Yabuja from where is the ruling Kogi in Luz Kogi from Yabuja he is more impressed in his second ambition and not nothing with his panacea of this world and then the artistic chairman of the APC that has faced the challenges of governance in Kogi state so if a man has performed that role what is he bringing on the table what is his potential what is his plan and what is his achievement there is many people who are very high to say look this and this are what I have done in Kogi state has come up Mr. Kolaole and for these reasons you vote for me as the energy president or let me rule as a vice president on the travel of political parties Mr. Kolaole Mr. Kolaole you hold kindly hold on let me quickly step in here to Nikolaole let me let me quickly step in here there is I understand that we have a very I mean as Nigerians a very flawed method of you know scoring performance of governance you know people see roads and flyovers and you know a few bridges here and there and you know and give kudos to a government for trying which is really really flawed but you know there's still people who would argue that Yaya Belo has not been entirely bad for Kogi state and it seems to have you know done some work and of course you also mentioned pensions just now that there's not very many reports of pensioners being owed in Kogi state just to point that out you know and of course you can continue with your thoughts Yaya Belo is more active on the pages of newspaper and on television radio than in Niger governance in Kogi state honestly let's take it easy you know Yaya Belo not having pain or tension to Yaya Belo he is the man that will have no relation with people honestly he could be he just had a look at him as a comedian not to give some formal leave about Yaya Belo and you know I think I enjoyed the Kogi Yaya Belo it's a monumental tragedy and I don't know what you know okay all right let's move away from Nigeria now and look at what issues seem to be creeping up in Ghana on the daily trust it says Ghanian's resume hostility against Nigerian traders 3000 businesses threatened over 3 billion Naira lost it says government must act on legal and political and economic technicalities the diaspora commission says we're not aware of recent onslaught Mr. Kola Wale it seems we're back to these times again you know from South Africa to Ghana where Nigerians and of course Nigerians living in those countries you know might be dealing with some form of xenophobia I will extract my own conversation from the South Africa that you have mentioned here in Naira where there is no love left between the people of South Africa and the Nigerian businessmen in South Africa despite the fact that Nigeria put all its resources, energy and international connections out of the public to make sure that South Africa got independent and immediately they became independent so Nigeria will look at it and try to bring this message but you know the host there has been a very huge distrust between the Nigerian people in South Africa and then the indigenous communities now the same thing is happening in Ghana the question we're now trying to answer is why is it that we are hated in Ghana that they treated us like adults and we're killing us like dogs in factories already and now the same thing is repeating itself in Ghana today if we were applying our faith in the manner in which it should be flagged we would be that despised as we were despised in Ghana and now are not so despised in South Africa we also go to some other African countries where South Africa has been republic for example too I'm also told that there is no love left between Nigeria and businessmen in the earth and then the host communities if they are a thing that we are not doing right for God's sake we are Nigerians we should continue to collect some of those mistakes the truth of the matter is that Nigeria's are very gregarious people wherever they may be, they want to be seen they never carry themselves with humility they are never humble the front they receive their work and what have not do you remember Nauti Dupu the international musician in South Africa a regular Nigeria who was seen not too long ago do you even know the Southern African people that here in South Africa they thought he was a Nigerian and that was the reason they killed him because he was driving a very expensive car and living a very lucky lifestyle the kind of work he would find with South Africa the kind of work he would find with the OBI Kupana and the rest of them so in Nigeria we go to some of these communities and we think of today in the way I manner that they had the Nigeria it should be expected that they would attack the threat to them that is one suspicion or that is one of my suspicions furthermore I am not sure that most of the embassies that we have in this place and most of the embassies that we have been there are doing the right thing I am not sure that the monitor that is for our people I am not sure that the whole meeting with the OBI with the Nigerian community in those places I am not sure that they advise them on the proper conduct and we have manner that they would be able when they are calling us I am not also sure that when Nigerians are being attacked that the ambassador and the Nigerian government say it is safe I mean it is safe that the whole community not keep us the way they keep us too many times we turn this light on right we are never bothered a Nigerian consulate has been fooled and in Ghana even when this people knew it was the Nigerian consulate and what happened nothing also see the way a man and a Nigerian in their own old boys so for all who go to Ghana and we need the economy in there giving the Nigerian community a bad name internationally also look at what the Yau Yau old boys Nigerian Yau Yau old boys are doing in Dubai and some of these other countries what they are doing the years are not as these are some of the things that are giving us a bad name that we are ever Nigerians find themselves are not as they are treated with suspicion even those who have no criminal inclination immediately you are carrying a Nigerian passport and you have the Nigerian accent you are already a suspect it's not that we are to Ghana you know so we need to ask ourselves questions do a sober reflection and not that when we are in a different country we should comply with all the rules and regulations with all the laws and behave as responsible citizens some of these countries that we go to do business like South Africa and Ghana they are not they are not like Nigeria we they they do things by the rule of law they don't take a lot into their arms they don't engage themselves and they want all that they want business they want the society to be free they don't want you to have just don't care everywhere you should not dump them all right if our people and girls or if our people are living in Ghana I have turned their market to a new market if they will not pay their taxes and levy if they want to buy off the old places without giving some concentration to the old community then you can always expect that they are with your city we have had such a city for Ghana and Ghana in Nigeria before too when they had the economy in India and the same from Nigeria a few communities are committed then but there are also hostilities in our time when we also have them to respond to their respective countries so the policies in our cause it is only ourselves that can polish our image and ensure that wherever we find ourselves we are committed to respect it and our response for ourselves and now with the rules and now with the law and now with the culture and now with the law and civilization that we need to govern in the old communities where we have found ourselves all right let's see something on the leadership newsflip as this morning bottom left it says there opposition unfair to the apc and president marman de boire and that is from the progressive governor's forum it said the opposition parties are portraying the apc and the president in bad light in spite of the achievements of the current administration and of course a progressive governor's forum are all the apc governors if you remember them of course the director general Dr. Salihu Lukman is the one speaking here saying that the opposition is unfair to the apc and president marman de boire to Nikola Wale do you agree no i don't agree why i concede at the apc government at the nation's effort to revamp the nation's infrastructure especially in terms of road network in terms of the activities in the redways and then the investment that they have done in as they have done in agritada these are very very good steps even though those ought to have their own drawbacks we have been borrowing money to build those infrastructures and i have always argued when you borrow money the investment money in projects and programs and infrastructure that will be able to take back the loans but that's not what we have thought when you also look at the money that have been borrowed more than 70 percent of it as then they drop in the pockets of funds they drop in the pockets of their business name plans and also running the political parties especially the party at the center well if you look at all of these the quantum of money that they have been borrowed in infrastructure that you also have on chance if they relay corollary drugs if they relay tally there is a gap in between my humble opinion there is a shortfall even in that area we have to assume more development that we have seen you know apart from that you measure the achievement of the government from two or three perspectives one is food security then we say that Nigeria is not on this to do the answer or the food is that most Nigeria are on this to do even the president himself in his independence book has admitted that the prices of foodstuffs are hierarchical and most people like them have disappeared from the market and then from the shares and all that so even Nigeria is unable to provide food for its citizens and what achievements are you talking about for them all look at the final state of food security nobody is secured in any part of the country anymore we have been paying a check with the southeast or what about the southern Katuna what about Kodi state what about on those what about even the dose to his brother was killed much of every part of the country is not safe and it doesn't matter who you are look at a doctor clearly a philanthropist, a congressman a very very humble man a man who has food security at the disposal of the Nigerian people without let or indians and without discrimination see the tragic way we live as in a small town well we are fed in the area of food security we are fed in the area of providing security for life and property what achievements are we talking about also look at the final state of our educational system look at the final state of the health system the medical people are just calling off their spikes now actually it's also Guerno Ruari who go on another spike almost about two million the two-page graduate from secondary school on yearly basis and less than $50,000 we get admission into universities, polytechnic and colleges of education in some other countries of the world people are being spiked people are giving incentives to both of the universities to both of the polytechnic and others here our theorem was to go to school we cannot provide a space for them to be able to educate themselves in propaganda so if you are able to learn you should be the leader of tomorrow you don't educate them what you expect you should expect insecurity you should expect banditry you should expect criminality so in that area too the government of the APC have built a very very wordfully also look at the environment like Lagos see how safety the environment has to come also look at the job international labor organization then we have almost about capacity in terms of people unemployment unemployed people and here it's also being described as the world capital of poverty in the old world in spite of the fact that the government takes it to take 100 million people out of poverty all right in spite of all that we'll need to wrap it up here they have rolled out the truth of this matter is thank you very much to Ndekola Wale keep up and do what is expected of the sound they haven't done around they haven't done anything lovable for telling their self or any other political party to begin to clap for them okay to Ndekola Wale always interesting to listen to you of course on Monday mornings thank you very much for joining us today and of course we wish you a very interesting week ahead you must tell the Q&A people all the time absolutely the matter is also God it isn't like the matter but the quality of 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