 Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to the regular City Council meeting of the Santa Rosa City Council on August 14th 2018. Ms. Gomez, would you announce the role please? Let the record show that all council members are present with the exception of council member Sawyer. Thank you. We had no closed session, no study session. We go on to proclamations and presentations and we will start with Ms. Sonoma County 2018 and Mr. Oliverus you have this. Thank you Mayor. And it really is an honor to be presenting this proclamation to Tyler. I think I first met Tyler when she was well maybe six years old or so maybe five years old okay yes whereas lifetime Sonoma County resident Tyler Avery Lewis is recognized for achieving the title of 2018 Ms. Sonoma County and being only the 72nd young woman to hold a distinguished title of Ms. Sonoma County and whereas at 22 years of age Tyler Avery Lewis has already proven herself to be an incredible young lady while studying full-time at Sanders Union College and thus previously serving as captain of her high school varsity cheer team helping institute a program to teach children at no charge serving as president of her dance club and serving as vice president of her black student chapter and whereas as Ms. Sonoma County Tyler Avery Lewis has become a source of inspiration for people of all ages for not only her remarkable accomplishments but for also being very open in engaging and discussing in discussion surrounding the inclusion of additional and more accurate African-American literature in Sonoma County schools and partnering with community activists and leader of Locienne Herman J. Hernandez in promoting the inclusion of Sonoma County minorities in community based engagement and conversation and whereas as Ms. Sonoma County Tyler Avery Lewis will be representing our city of Santa Rosa and the County of Sonoma and numerous local gatherings and events during her year of service and was a competitor for the coveted title of Ms. California this past June and now therefore be it resolved that Chris Corsi mayor of the city of Santa Rosa on behalf of the entire city council congratulates an extensive praise to 2018 Mr. McCounty Tyler Avery Lewis if you want to make some comments there's a microphone right behind you there maybe you maybe consider the sit at the table my oh Stephanie will hold it up for you I think maybe yeah we'll make it work first of all it's a privilege and an honor to be before you and all of you who are behind me but not so much behind me as mostly as Tyler Avery I never thought I would have this opportunity and as Ms. Sonoma County it is such an amazing an amazing feat to be the third African-American to hold this title and I thank you Mr. Oliveris for watching me grow from the five-year-old into the 22-year-old that I am and along this journey I've made so many friends and so many amazing men and women who I didn't know and I have this opportunity now as Ms. Sonoma County to thank you all who are on this council and I thank you Mayor Corsi and I thank you Vice Mayor Rogers and councilmember Combs and council members who excuse me I'm gonna pronounce your name wrong Shwell home and especially thank you council member Tibbets for taking the time to honor me in such a way because I do not deserve this and I would like to say that in front of everybody I don't deserve this there's so many other people who along the way have helped me be who I am today especially Mr. Giraldi and it is so amazing to be Ms. Sonoma County and I don't think a lot of people understand the importance of holding this title and what it represents to young women and young people especially because I see it as a beauty contest and it's not a beauty contest it's a scholarship competition it's a competition to be educated and to show who you are internally rather than externally and having this privilege and honor and being able to do what I do and being the face of our community as an African American in times like these it's such an amazing an amazing feeling and I'd like to say that excuse me coming out of the fair and having fun moments like that but yet going on Facebook and seeing that there are African Americans who lose their lives on a day-to-day basis it just it gives me strength to know that I can be a voice for my people when there isn't a voice my voice will be heard so thank you yet again and it's gonna be an amazing next eight months and I hope not to let you all down so thank you thank you Tyler I have a card on this item Mr. Chernaf how could I not so Tyler every Lewis unto American spirit be truest fabulous absolutely singing in American America the beautiful spiritual romance and fulfilled by dance unto almighty dutiful here in Luther Burbank home and gardens filled with overabundance and bounty a shining star sure to go far currently miss Sonoma County she be of the generation spoken so long ago who will do greater things than I changing this old status quo and when the boss was on the cross the men ran away spiritually lost remember who stayed women of courage and conviction times upon us for freedoms insurrection for the goddess be pregnant with purpose and as surely as these words be spoken her water is already broken birthing the phoenix of fire arisen fulfilling the promised desire busting all chains of this prison after all as I always say women are smarter than men and that's wisdom far deeper than Zen and I am Peter King of masterpiece theater so Tyler you need to rise up and be the leader because you women students in California are the most powerful of all the planet so I invite you to look deep and focus on how to be standing on granite for our high noon be this full moon to assert your true power I say Rosebud Rosebud come now to flower and be fulfilling your fate as destiny's date for indeed you surely be a princess Jedi that truly does rate all right moving on to our second proclamation for climbers for peace and mr. Rogers has this one thank you mr. Mayor so we have three recipients Fred Petuccia Xavier Polk and David Wallström if you would come forward at least the two of you that I see here whereas climbers for peace was founded 21 years ago and is sponsored jointly by sister cities Santa Rosa to car see and veterans for peace and whereas CFP has been bringing ordinary citizens from different countries together for climbing adventures that demonstrate how people with different languages and cultures can cooperate in a spirit of trust and friendship and whereas CFP has had 10 prior expeditions in Europe and America summoning iconic mountains including in Russia the highest mountains in Europe Olympus and the home of the gods in Greece Shasta in California and Denali in Alaska and whereas a group of veterans and other citizens joined with members of the Iranian mountaineering Federation for a peace climb to the summit of Dhamma Von an 18605 foot volcano that is sacred to the Persian people and whereas Fred Petuccia of Santa Rosa at age 75 became the oldest American to ever summit and whereas pictures of the climbers proudly holding Iranian and American flags on the summit were sent around the world and provided inspiration and hope for peace-loving people everywhere and whereas CFP hopes to reduce tensions between America and Iran and help avoid another tragic war in the Middle East now therefore be it resolved that Chris Corsi mayor of the city of Santa Rosa on behalf of the entire city council commend Xavier Polk Fred Petuccia and David Wollström of climbers for peace and Iran for the vision encouraged they demonstrated by reaching out to the Iranian people at this time of increased governmental tensions between our two countries thereby promoting world peace for all people I want to say that we had a wonderful experience at the time we were in Iran entire country and there's only last year there were only a hundred Americans visited the country in the whole the whole year so we saw and receive amazingly warm gracious welcome from everyone we met and I would have to say I was one of the safest countries I've ever felt in there was no graffiti there was no trash no litter and fortunately the Iranian people make a difference differentiation between ordinary citizens like ourselves and our government policies so that was truly wonderful I was pleasantly surprised that I was able to make the summit got out to two sickness at around 16,000 but managed to push on through it and one of our other climbers that is one of my personal heroes could not be here today Xavier Polk as a PhD psychologist they give only the toughest cases to him and he's treating someone in the East Bay today and he's a fantastic distance runner runs about four marathons a year and he's legally blind so I always have a ministry spec for someone that has a major handicap and overcomes that so he was a great climbing companion and I'd like to have my other companion here Dave say thank you mr. Mayor council members thank you for having us I have a few notes because I'm not a very good extemporaneous speaker affiliated with climbers for peace Fred is a member of veterans for peace I have a history of protesting our wars going back to Vietnam marching in the streets to shut down the Oakland induction Center marching in San Francisco during the Iraq War I certainly hope that with the reimposition of sanctions that we do not have another war in the Middle East and with that in mind that was in my mind the whole time in in Iran so it's wonderful now to be joined with Fred and veterans for peace in a common cause of pursuing peace and I never would have seen this 50 years ago and just as we have common cause in in Iran there was a lot of acknowledgement that we are all one people our governments our governments aren't aren't the best there's a we can take issue with both governments very easily but people would often say we're all one only the governments are in the way and many times I never heard a single negative word about the United States in Iran the people were incredibly warm hospitable welcoming and sometimes they would go and they go US Iran won so this was a wonderful experience the people of Iran I hope that we don't get into a conflict with them they're warm welcoming and I hope that other folks have a chance to visit this wonderful country thank you I would like to present to each of the council members a pin that we gave out probably a 50 60 of them to people we met from veterans for peace and also a statement of purpose which included in our purpose is to refrain our government from interviewing covertly or overtly in the internal affairs of other nations and sadly we've been interfering with many nations around the world including Iran for a way too long and then only because he's so good-looking I have us a shirt for Mayor Chris Corsi I'll make sure he gets it from thank you thanks because I'm good looking congratulations to you both very well done yes thank you for the pictures also thank you thank you mr. turnf thank you mayor I always try and make it a point to say thank you to all veterans and and also all law enforcement for they've all taken a an oath to the US Constitution another Constitution is only four things you can do wrong harm someone kill someone break something or steal someone but the bar lawyers out of running this country have turned that into neighborhoods full of codes and rules and regulations so warriors David Xavier and Fred Americans who most recently led a uniting climb described here in rhyme to restrain an assault of Iran primarily for they rejected the Fed yes indeed in addressing greed how many lives given how many dead these users bankers and their lawyerly minions maintain the war effort being fact hardly opinion these bankers in the bar so too all religious deception calls for true unity by prophecy delivering freedom strike reception as California goes so does the world time to be fulfilled by prophecy with the red white and blue unfurled the 40-day freedom strike freeze the US Constitution for the world has forever for the world has forever from your heart sought to heist the power authority in the light of Christ I am Peter I'm the seer and the living spirit of the Constitution has been waiting in the prison cell of brother Leonard Peltier who represents the 500 year indigenous resistance worldwide it's time to watch the bad guys all collide being hell bent in heaven sent we now together withdraw our consent from the very system that maintains his corruption a 40-day strike be the royal interruption fulfilling your mission with the cosmic physician it's time to requisition the power of Christ to make real the promise of America and so the veterans of peace I say on to this prophecy from on hot thank you for all your wonderful work moving on to 7.1 Mr. McGlynn there is no report on 7.1 any report from the city manager tonight yes from this from the water utility the city of Santa Rosa has been selected as the 2018 silver beacon award winner presented by the Institute for local government the city will be receiving the award based on the following achievements 21% community greenhouse gas reductions 8% agency greenhouse gas reductions 8% energy savings 5% natural gas savings and platinum level award in sustainability best practices the award will be presented at the League of California's annual conference in Long Beach on September 13th and the mayor and the director Hornstein will be at the awards ceremony thank you any report from the city attorney's office tonight no I have no reports tonight statements of abstention from council members nothing tonight and mayors and council members reports who wants to start anyone mr. Schwedhelm thank you mr. Mayor item 10.1.8 the ground water sustainability agency we had a meeting last week and I just want to report out on five action items we extend the contract for the rate and fee study again that that came to this council several months ago we've amended the contract with ref graph tell us added another $50,000 to their budget with the base and the budget for the project and the budget for the budget for the primary prioritization and some other movements there that study needs to expand its scope well also authorized a three-year contract for an annual audit with a percenty and brinker a local firm not to exceed 13,650 bucks then also the selection for a GSA administrator RFP for that position was issued July 19th and closed yesterday a staff will be approved on September 24th I will be on that interview panel which will be making a recommendation for the entire to the entire board for the new GSA administrator and also author authorize the plan managers to submit or support a request for a basin boundary modification to include a portion of the Wilson Grove Highlands into the Santa Rosa Plain Basin that's somewhat complicated and technical issue with that new basin may be able to split into both Marine County and Petaluma basin in addition to the Santa Rosa Plain Basin so we'll be supporting the efforts to go in that direction and then lastly we'll authorize the advisory committee to have the ability to have designated alternates for instance all of us electeds have alternates but then our advisory committee there was no process if they could make a meeting to have their alternate appear so we allowed them to create that process so that they were able to their interest would be able to be heard and that's it for the GSA and then you'll report out on the two ad hoc meetings we had last week too if you want to go ahead oh but you're the chair I'm sure you would so on the August 8th the Joint City County Homeless System Redesign ad hoc committee of which Mayor Corsi, Councilmember Combs and I are members met with the continued care board to discuss the redesign of the system I think we made an actual out of progress and I really appreciated the facilitator after we had the discussion everyone had the opportunity to say how comfortable are you with the decisions that are going forward and I think without exception everyone had a green card which mean they could live with it there are one or two yellow cards with some trepidation but I think that's a lot of progress from where we were weeks and months ago to where we are now so very impressed with the progress and then the Joint City County build rebuild meeting I'm sure Vice Mayor Rogers will want to report out on the cell community celebration but we have that again last week and have another one on Thursday great and the next meeting of the the homeless ad hoc between the city and the county is on Thursday at noon anyone else who's combs I just have actually a couple of questions for the city manager or or I was hoping that we would have a report out on the activities on Apollo way and that area with regard to the RVs that are there I had a call today from a gentleman who is on South Dutton near storage master and he has expressed concern of an increase in number of persons with RVs in his area so it concerns me if we're moving people from one area if they are relocating to another area I obviously am one of those people that thinks it's time for us to have a safe parking program on city property but I am awaiting my colleagues approvals on that one it doesn't feel comfortable to me to keep just moving people around that that was kind of the the primary concern I have is there anything to report on the activity there I'm getting mixed messages about what's going on so happy to have council up to the staff update council tomorrow on on the ongoing activities the last report outs reflect where we're sitting but I will I'll make sure staff gets a more current update out that that would be really helpful I'm also looking on the list the future agendas items for the rental inspection program and the nondiscrimination for voucher ordinances program that we recently budgeted so I when that's available to have on the on the list of future items it would be helpful so that I can let folks who are asking me about those know when those are coming up thank you and just on that is my understanding from our conversation last week that the staff in housing and community development is is working diligently now on the community development block grant disaster recovery action plan that needs to be 120 days we have from today to get that done that's the priority at this point and then we'll when that capacity is available the rental inspection program is next in line is that correct Mr. McLean we're currently reviewing that but you know we really do need to move on the DR front as I communicated to council earlier today there has been movement on the federal side I suspect that that'll mean that a delegation of both city and county electeds need to go to Sacramento and get a better sense of what hcd's action plan and that's housing community development on the state side is going to do now we as you as you know we have a Hagerty consulting which we will be working with to develop that action plan but it is an accurate assessment that we're facing a very tight timetable to get an action plan together thank you thank you I did understand that we have a lot to do and I'm just looking for seeing it appear on the agenda list for future months or pending any other council members reports just actually mr. Rogers I'll let it go one report on a event held here in the chamber last Friday we have a bust up in the actual have two bus in the corners up there one is Luther Burbank most people in Santa Rosa know who he is the other is can I a nagasawa and he was a Japanese citizen who came to the United States in about 1870 and moved up into the hills at Fountain Grove and started growing grapes and making wine like so many other immigrants have done in this county he had the round barn built the landmark that was built or that was burned last October 9th and he he brought a lot of attention to the the wine industry in Sonoma County in California last week members of a delegation from his hometown of Kago Kagoshima Japan visited here the mayor of Kagoshima Hiroyuki Mori he and I exchanged some gifts mr. McGlynn and I got some fancy sake drinking outfits to to to where when we're enjoying the the fruit of the vine in Japan we should we should have worn them tonight and there were also about a dozen Japanese exchange students who are here for a couple of weeks and that exchange has been going on for quite a while between Santa Rosa and Kagoshima in alternate summers where Santa Rosa kids go there and Kagoshima kids come here it was a really nice event they also the friends of Kagoshima here in Santa Rosa and and people in Kagoshima Japan have raised more than $75,000 for for fire relief and recovery for Santa Rosa as well so I was really happy to welcome those folks moving on to item 11 approval of minutes are there any additions or corrections to the minutes of May 15th and May 16th we'll show those approved as submitted and mr. McGlynn consent item 12.1 motion contract award pavement preventive maintenance 2018 item 12.2 resolution approved grant of easement to Pacific gas and electric company on city owned property located at 781 farmers Lane Santa Rosa APN 014-161-029 to facilitate the farmers Lane well facility rehabilitation project and authorize the director of water department to execute necessary documents item 12.3 resolution approved modification of an existing easement with Pacific gas and electric company on city owned property location at 2260 Sonoma Avenue Santa Rosa and authorize the director of the water department to execute necessary documents item 12.4 resolution first amendment to the revocable long-term parking permit with the United States Postal Service item 12.5 resolution approval of design build method of procurement for parking access and revenue control system item 12.6 resolution GSA extension first amendment to general services agreement f00 1349 universal site services incorporated item 12.7 resolution approving a third amendment to the professional services agreement safety employees police and fire for wellness services with wellness solutions incorporated item 12.8 resolution third amendment to professional services agreement with wellness solutions incorporated for miscellaneous employees thank you council any questions yes miss cons I had had two question I had a question on two of the items 12.2 and 12.3 with regard to whether for the easements for PG&E we were requiring under grounding I heard back about one of them I did not hear or I may have missed hearing about the other one do we have that information and is it our intention to require under grounding in the future as we do easements with PG&E good afternoon Jill Scott right away agent sorry on item 12.2 that one is supposed to be under grounded that is the what I'm trying to see which one it is sorry yes that is supposed to be under grounded it's in the design for it and on 12.3 as well there may be one item that's a little bit above ground for the switches in the future on the downtown projects we have been asking PG&E to underground their items I'm having some luck with that it is more expensive right is it possible for us to create a general policy that unless there's some mitigating reason we would ask them to underground sure thank you any other questions mr. Rogers thank you mr. Mayor I will move items 12.1 through 12.8 of the consent calendar and waive further reading of the text second your votes counsel it passes with six eyes still being before five o'clock we will move on to item 14.1 I am 14.1 report hazard mitigation grant program project application submittals Jason nut director of transportation and public works leading the presentation good afternoon Mayor Corsi and council members I'm Jason that I'm the director of transportation and public works I am the front guy today talking about the hazard mitigation grant program in the audience our representatives from just about every one of the departments that has a grant incorporated or a grant application that they're requesting and so if as we get through the process or to the end of the process you have detailed questions that I can't answer about them I'll be inviting someone to come down and provide a more detailed level of response so the goal of this is to apply for hazard mitigation grant program this is a FEMA funded project or a FEMA funded and program that is identified following the proclamation of a federal disaster and the it's really these are these are this is a program that specifically identified for providing benefits to improving loss of life looking at lessening the impact of a specific disaster trying to mitigate consequences of different types of disasters that can come to an effect in Oregon a community and it's administered through the office of the California office of emergency services it is sorry excuse me for a second so when a disaster is declared it doesn't matter where the disaster in California if it's presidential disaster any entity within the state can submit an application to receive funds to improve the situation for a community and in this particular case we have two possible opportunities they relate to the fires in northern California and southern California and that's what we're that's what we're looking to do today we went through an initial evaluation period back in the beginning of the calendar year where staff from different departments identified over 30 projects those projects ranged all over the board and different types of mitigation methods that we may want to implement through the course of through the course of this process to mitigate different types of disasters and I would like to add for counsel that what this works off of because of the condensed time frames associated with it is you're already existing mitigation plans so the expectation is your mitigation plan has been developed to a point that you can capitalize on these grant opportunities so it's not stuff that hasn't been already vetted through some process there's some there's some stragglers in that conversation but mostly this is meant to capitalize on your existing mitigation plans that you've adopted yeah so our local our agency has developed a local hazard mitigation plan we did utilize that as a base document to identify the initial project scopes we did expand on that because of the nature of the disasters that came forward and the type of evaluation process that we went through ultimately what happened is we vetted a series of projects we worked with our consultant Ernst and Young we took the 30 projects that the staff had come up with we bounced these ideas off of state representatives ultimately what came back was nine projects made it through the initial screening we have notice of intense that we've developed for those and those have all been approved those nine projects are broken up into three projects that the utilities and Santa Rosa water have prepared those have been taken to the board of public utilities on the second and were approved to move forward there are six projects that are general fund in nature and that's really what we're here to discuss today are the general fund projects I do have representatives from water here that can answer questions more detailed about the three that they've proved that they've put forward if you have those questions of those six projects we did already submit two applications we have the opportunity of council does not approve those applications to pull them back the reason we did that each of the releases of funds for hazard mitigation grant programs there's dedicated pots of money for each of those and rather than putting all of our projects into one release where they're all competing against each other we did our best to try to separate projects that were ready for the July release and we went ahead and pushed those forward for consideration that does not supersede your authority to tell us otherwise but we did that on behalf of the organization trying to maximize the benefit that we could receive through the two different releases the second release is a September 4th and that's the one that's coming up that's what our intent is to try to get your feedback and approvals and then we submit the remaining items or the remaining projects for for that release here the nine projects that we're looking at I'm going to do my best to try to give you a very brief update or a description of those projects project 275 is the public safety battery backup or public safety backup generator we determined during the facilities assessment and and as a function of this and other events that the backup generator is not properly functioning we have made attempts to work around it with some portable generators in order to make this work and but we did determine that that repairing this and making a permanent improvement is something that's important we would like to not MacGyver our situation through that first one we did find that when we MacGyvered at the first time well we had some difficulties with some of the lights that sort of blew up because we put too much energy into the system and that was that was something that we're we were you know we're trying to look at the age of the building we're trying to look at the facility what it should be accepting what it can and and so this is one of the challenges that we ran into was the pieces weren't connecting up properly so we would like and that's what this application is for to do a proper reconstruction and put in a piece of equipment that's that's appropriate for that facility project 167 is backup generators for water and wastewater facilities this project will replace three existing substandard diesel generators and 19 existing propane or natural gas emergency generators with more reliable diesel generators at the 22 critical wastewater facilities what they ended up finding out is during this particular disaster was extremely difficult to get propane up to these locations diesel is much more readily available it's it's an easier product to work with and that's exact that's why Santa Rosa waters looking at converting these from into something that's a little easier for them to manage in disasters are these primarily pump stations these are water and sewer lift stations there is it does also include the sub regional system leading to the geysers those are also a part of this program as well just to make sure I didn't miss state well he's not getting up that fast so I'll move on projects 286 are dam inundation flood maps we we own a series of dams in this city and this and in particular the recreation and parks department is the responsible entity for that those dam inundation maps are related to technical studies that are done to determine whether poor maintenance or failure from a natural disaster would result in inundation into low-lying areas immediately adjacent and what the resulting damage is associated with that and we haven't the current maps that we have are dated 1970 those maps need to be updated in order to comply with state state standards that went into effect July 1st 2017 and so this is an area that we've been we've been looking at for the last year trying to figure out how we were going to accomplish this with the hazard mitigation grant program it seemed like an appropriate fit for that specific request project 196 is the seismic and water supply improvements to three steel reservoirs this project will correct seismic deficiencies at three welded steel reservoirs to ensure there is sufficient water available in the tanks for firefighting and drinking water purposes there are structural deficiencies within these in different in different forms and we feel that this is again an appropriate and reasonable ask to have albeit we are continuing to work on identifying the most appropriate approach to completing this task we think hazard mitigation will help us finance and make that one come to fruition quicker project 158 is a traffic signal retrofit including battery backups this project will install battery backups at traffic signals throughout the city to help facilitate evacuation efforts it will also allow traffic flow to continue operating during the course of a power outage the battery backups can typically last between four and six hours they are also somewhat portable I say somewhat they are bulky they're a little challenging to disconnect you pick them up you move them to another one if there's a more critical intersection that you want to keep running for a longer period of time during the event in October we did have a number of signals that went dark made it more challenging for public safety officials to help folks evacuate out of those communities this would help us not deploy resources at locations where we don't have to and so it would help us get resources where they're most desperately needed project 249 is the water treatment plant facility flood flooding mitigation this project will create a flood wall about a 6500 linear foot berm wall and gates around the facility at the regional treatment plant it's in an effort to save and sustain operations there and keep from having significant damage to critical facilities and infrastructure so director really fast that one sticks out like a sore thumb to me not just because of the total cost but every other project that's on this list the local shares either 25% or I think one is 12 and a half percent this one's local shares 60% of the total cost can you talk a little bit about how this project was selected so I'm gonna I'll talk about the the local match component while while my counterparts from water come down the hazard mitigation program has a maximum a maximum of five million dollars of granted funds and so the local match for this particular project would be higher simply because the local mat or the the amount provided to the local agency is capped this project addresses a very longstanding vulnerability we have at the Laguna treatment plant we do have a history of floods we've put in over the last few years a temporary very small wall to protect the most essential equipment this grant this project is already in the CIP so this grant would just be offsetting the maximum amount which is five million dollars and provide obviously a significant benefit and allow the project to move forward in a more financially advantageous way project 116 is my apologies sorry I didn't mean to interrupt I the nerves keeps me moving so project 116 is a chipper program this program's intended to provide education as well as physical work to help property owners manage their properties better in the in the wildland urban urban interface in an effort to try to reduce fuel loadings in and around those areas the wildfire early detection and notification options this is a project that I'm going to ask the chief to come down and talk about in more detail once I finish this portion of the presentation so that he can give you a little more information about what notifications mean in this particular case I haven't listed as a project 287 project 287 is actually something very specific relating to sirens and we are going to not submit that for the September 4th and Tony will go into more detail about how we want to coordinate and work with the county in an effort to come up with a comprehensive plan on that before before we go too farther too much further that conversation will be brought forward in a second but I want to remind council that there are additional opportunities there's an October time period and then there will be an additional opportunity that has not been scheduled yet because there is an additional fires ongoing in a presidential disaster so there are multiple opportunities for us to be continuing through this process to submit a hazard mitigation grants unfortunately these things do trail the disaster FEMA is advocating for a more proactive approach that would have investments come in in in advance of disasters instead of response to disasters because they do also understand the struggle and the pressures this puts on local communities to just be responding to these situations but I don't want to make it seem like there are not going to be additional opportunities to direct requests to our mitigation experts there will be there's one in October and then there'll be one after that in response to the current fires so what we've done what we've done instead of discussing sirens at this specific low project is we've been working with the county on a camera program and what you see on here and what you read in the description of the staff report specifically relates to the coordination efforts that the city fire department is having with various entities at the county in an effort to deploy cameras as an early detection system and so the local match that you see there would be our share of the local match that's why it looks again different from some of the others as far as not being 25% it's actually half of that 25% and that would be our share of participating in their application that is ready to go and then Tony will come down and talk more about the other components of that the last item that we have here is project 290 which is the storm drain master plan one of the things that we don't have in this community is a comprehensive evaluation of our storm drain system we don't know where the weaknesses are we do know from past history that flooding does occur it does exist in town but we don't have a clean clear way of tracking exactly where those things are a storm drain master plan will tell us as an infrastructure component where our deficiencies are and how we might need to address those deficiencies moving forward into the future and so this is a critical component that we have as part of our storm drain community or our storm drain team and trying to get them to better understand what our infrastructure really looks like so with that I'd like Tony to come down and talk about the siren or the interaction with the county before you go to talk in more detail about any one of them I can't make the numbers add to the number at the bottom for our total approved projects local share and I just wonder if somebody can double check that it's it's possible it has to do with rounding but I can't get the last three digits and I haven't done the whole set of numbers I just was sitting here adding up the numbers and couldn't make them work so if somebody can check the numbers I'd appreciate it it's probably rounding but to get three digits wrong makes me nervous so if somebody could have a quick look I will I will confirm and I will confirm it and I'm really not playing God I wish just sitting here adding numbers it's so I will say there were some there was a very last-minute change in this that was the project 287 and and I will I'm going to apologize up front there are there are numbers that are incorrect here and I'm going to describe those in detail if you look at attachment a attachment a does have the it is it's basically this table it should have the actual numbers I apologize if I didn't get that that total all squared away hello yeah hey Tony Gosner fire chief for the city center so I'm going to talk a little bit about the wildfire early detection and notification options there's a lot of work that's going on with the county and the surrounding areas regarding emergency learning as well as options how are we going to notify the community aside from phone calls and and internet options so to speak so one of the things that we we commonly hear is the questions about sirens and for us sirens really we're going to look at them we're going to have a community meeting a few community meetings four or five in September and we're going to go through a process of what we're looking for in a early detection system I will tell you right off the bat that sirens I'm not a big fan of them there they were designed in the the 40s you know they were air raid sirens so when you're outside you hear the siren you get inside with today's houses they're built so tight you'd have to have so many sirens around the city for people to hear them in the middle of night it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense right now I will say that we're sirens do make a huge impact is like a tsunami warning where it's a single purpose you hear the siren go off you know exactly what to do you go to high ground and we just don't have that in our urban areas so we have some volunteer departments that still utilize sirens they don't go off for the three minutes they go off for a few cycles and they shut down so sirens to us are a little problematic in public education moving forward where we really think we're going to have great success is with the camera system so the Sonoma County water agency is has eight cameras that they're going to put up in fact we have two meetings tomorrow ones in the mercy alert systems talk about nixle soco alert we in EAS and then in the afternoon we have a presentation on a wildfire camera systems what the wildfire camera systems do they give us a large view of of Sonoma County so when a call comes in dispatchers they have I was up there last Friday for a call in Petaluma wanting to go make sure everyone was doing all right making sure all the resources are moving where they need to move and they had a big TV up there with two cameras on and the two cameras were shining towards or showing towards Lake County and you can see the two columns one from the river fire one from the ranch fire so that was one camera shining towards Lake County we had another camera shining towards southern Sonoma County but it wasn't angled enough to see the fire in Petaluma so right now Cal fire has St. Alina specifically the dispatch center has the ability to move those cameras around so we can see pan the camera to certain areas and we actually called them that day to see if they can pan that that camera over they weren't able to but we're gonna have access to do that in our dispatch centers shortly and we're gonna have access to at least eight cameras just for Sonoma County in addition working with PG&E and other players there's gonna be multiple cameras placed throughout the the county that we'll have access to and we'll be able to steer the cameras where we need to so when a call comes in for a wildland fire we know the area we can take a look at the TV there's the okay I see smoke I don't see smoke it's growing fast it's moving fast you know it'll give us some opportunity to to know what's going on and that will allow us to alert those citizens in that area at a much faster rate and with the situation awareness that we just did not have back in October so we really feel that's where the value is that'll work for winter time storms summer and anyone can get into it so you can be at home and log into it and look at the cameras it's kind of like the Tahoe the cameras at Tahoe is it snowing let me punch in here oh yeah it is snowing so it gives the community something to access when they need to it also gives the dispatchers the ability to look at certain areas of the county when there is a reported fire and that gives us you know a lot of times we'll be responding to the fire we won't see smoke dispatchers can tell us now we have a common smoke and this is where it is or we don't see smoke either so we can adjust our response accordingly I'll say last two days ago there was two reported vegetation fires that turned out to be dust so those are some things that we can write people are disc in their fields and one was a leaf blower believe it or not but it was kicking up a lot of dust enough to where people that live on found grove were calling it in it was in the mark West Springs area so we had two calls like that in the last few days and that this will give us the ability to be able to look and monitor and say yes there is smoke it is building or we saw something but it's gone and they'll be able to triangulate and figure out exactly where that is so that's the way we're heading right now at this point so if I can just interrupt for a second you talked about being up there and seeing the screens where's up there I'm sorry I was at the Redcom dispatch center okay so Redcom is monitoring these cameras Redcom has a TV dedicated to these two cameras right now there's only two up and running there's going to be up to eight for Sonoma County through the one program but there's going to be multiple other cameras that will have access to once we get the system up and running so so I want to make clear of a couple things that are going on right now what what staff has been able to identify is the one of the challenges that happened in the fire last last October was situational awareness without situational awareness it's hard to deploy resources against those resources where you need to have them to for and in that includes evacuations fighting fires and would actually be conversation even in different types of a disaster situations I have traveled down to see San Diego and see the ability that San Diego gas and electric is affording the county of San Diego and being able to support those types of endeavors through a robust camera system we are not walking away from the conversation about other types of alerting options which includes sirens could include conversations about individual radios supplying people that have landline conversations we're looking at all of those things there are challenges with those those items and there's frankly a coordination effort that has to be associated with other jurisdictions because sound does not stop at one jurisdictional boundary or another we're going to go into some conversations with through our neighborhood resiliency initiative into a variety of communities that works being planned right now to do several things first of all provide a robust education experience around the alerting systems that are available to folks we will actually staff this to have the ability for people to enroll on the spot we're pursuing ability we're pursuing maybe even having some baseline material for people to take back to their homes to make themselves more resilient in their home at that moment we will also be going through some of these scenarios and trying to better understand what the community is expecting and what they need from us as as protectors of this community so we will be listening we will also be evaluating that with our subject matter experts from Ernst & Young because they have experienced siren systems that quickly degraded in fact the capital area of DC after 9-11 built up a siren system that is no longer was never used is now no longer functional we need more time to get into those conversations because they do require those interagency coordinating efforts what we will then do is bring back a program of the next phase in the October period for council to consider for funding so I don't want to make it sound like that this is just one choice but the immediate choice in the one that staff can understand the value of and is being worked on as a coordinated effort is in the camera area but but the commitment is we starting in September we're going to get into a conversation with our community exactly about this issue so that's the plan more to come on that plan but this is not should not be interpreted as walking away from one thing or another we've got to go through an evaluative process on these things and really understand what these tools are and how they might benefit the community and with that I'll just add we're working with the county and not to the county does have a certain areas that they'd like to use sirens one of them's fish mountain it's a mountain with brush and trees one way in one way out so siren might make sense for that community we may have some of those areas bordering Santa Rosa that we might want to employ problem with sirens is when it's really windy sound doesn't carry like it does on a nice sunny day right so there's a lot of limitations with there's some studies that we're looking at but we're not discounting like the city manager said we're gonna look at everything but we want to make sure that that whatever we use is going to be easy to maintain and give us the best situational awareness so we can alert the community as quick as we can thank you mr. Tibbets thank you mayor this this sounds good I was one of the big fans of sirens I think a lot of us were because we were kind of hearing from the community after the fire that this seemed like a no-brainer in what I'm hearing you say makes a lot of sense the wind sound carrying appropriately through housing but one of the questions I still have that I didn't hear get addressed and if you did I apologize and that is that I think one of the appeals to sirens was the concept of itself as a technology being resilient of having redundant power systems that in the event of of an earthquake a nearby fire could activate could still be activated how would these cameras be resilient if you will in the same way that a siren potentially could be that's one question the second question would be is cameras are great but really it depends on the operator to make the call right that was one of the problems with our fires that we knew it was coming but somebody somewhere decided that we needed to let the situation potentially evolve before taking action how is this camera system going to be or not be vulnerable to those those achilles heels if you will well I'll speak to the the last first and so there's there's always going to be human you know decision making for these systems what we didn't have in October was a camera system so what we had was here say we heard some radio traffic on different radio channels but it was never corroborated I myself went on found a gov I said I I see a little glow way out there it's a long ways away and that was at 11 30 11 45 at night and we know came into town at one o'clock so there was really unless you post somebody up there just watching it march at you and everyone's too busy to do that with the camera systems it's in the dispatch center will dispatch will be able to uh be able to monitor that as well any dispatch center can you know some accounting shares can do it center as a pd can look at it so if there's anything on the outskirts they can log right in and and take a look and we will have access to the controls of those cameras so we're not calling somebody to do it we just it's brand new so we're just you know they're they're testing it out there's certain logins and safety that we have to employ right now so um you know that is that's going to give us uh the best bang for our buck in my opinion as far as resiliency uh with the cameras as well as the sirens everything runs on electricity so if the if we say we the pgne degenerizes the the system there's got to be some sort of a battery backup it's not going to be forever uh I believe Jason talked about a backup it was going to last four to four to six hours for a traffic light I would assume something similar to these but again these are so new and I apologize we weren't involved in the creation of this this was by the way we're doing this come learn and we're we're going to learn together tomorrow at two one o'clock that's what we're doing as part of the larger program so I will know more of these answers as we move forward but that's on everyone's mind that what happens if the power goes down what happens if if the internet goes down what happens if right so there's always the what ifs so we're trying to uh take a look at all of those and and we can't solve everything I can't sit here and guarantee that it'll always work uh but what I can't say is that the the camera systems that they're being used in the Tahoe area have been very good and very resilient thanks so one one follow up question I have you mentioned that it's going to go to dispatch does that mean that we will have the decision making power to issue an evacuation notice over people in the city of Santa Rosas I know that was also um a criticism I think of the city due to a confusion about whose responsibility it is to notify am I making sense a little bit okay so what I'm driving at is will the county hold the authority to make the evacuation calls we we hold the authority for the city of Santa Rosa now if we're super busy we might ask them to do it you know my goal is to make sure that when we do evacuations it resides in our primary dispatch centers for the city of Santa Rosa Santa Rosa police department for the larger Sonoma County is Sonoma County Sheriff's Department redcom is called a secondary dispatch so all those calls we get go through one of either Santa Rosa or um Sonoma County or Petaluma or Sebastopol PD before they come to the fire side right so but what what we really need to focus on is when when we issue evacuation it'll go out through our center and we're working with police right now on that and we have control of that just like the county will have control of the county there has to be some linkage we have to communicate and coordinate because you got two different systems doing one of the things we had that night we had so-called nixle people were confused and and I get that but there's got to be coordination part of it is the education that we have to pump out to the residents of Santa Rosa and the county so so uh continuing on what the chief was saying so one of the one of the real challenges in evacuation is uh the system that's currently utilized and I saw once again being deployed in redding is a radius system in in a lot of the state which means you know one of the real challenges is when you've divided up in a radius system how people get caught up in a radius system what San Diego County does and I'm not saying it's a full proof system no system is is relies on a grid system but that took many years to develop I think we can capitalize on the work that they've developed there but a grid system means you're pointing to grids in a map which may actually fit more into compartments that reflect where your city boundaries are and actually reflect geographical locations when you lay out a circular radius people get caught up in that radius that may be on the other side of a mountain on the other side of of of a other type of barrier but they get caught up in these issues and then that's what sort of degrades the ability to form and and puts pressure on staff to make evacuation calls that are based upon a radius mentality so I would say that's why this is so much more complex this is an example of where all these things in our play and make these very very complicated conversations and the key to this is to move to an inner as the chief said I would strike the word some in interoperability we need an interoperable system that works we have to work together and we have to make sure that we're all using the same terminology I was down in the aftermath of what had happened in Ventura County and and Santa Barbara County and those two counties can agree on on on evacuation terminology meaning that if you're sitting on the border of a county there one side you're you're you're getting information from two different sources using two different terminologies we have to change that that's the essential thing that gets us into a rational way to deal with these issues where we're using one terminology we're using a standard approach and it takes into consideration that is not going to appear overnight that takes years to build part of what we're going through right now in this mitigation process is trying to build some of these systems of interoperability so that we can make this much much safer place we have a head we have a leg up as it relates to fire some of the council the the recovering rebuild are going down with two supervisors at the end of the month to actually see this system because the system actually is something I believe that both the city and the county and and the other cities in this county I can't emphasize that enough need to participate in and need to get aligned with I mean a grid system sounds like it's easy but it's going to require all the public safety divisions to default to the same management plan and I'm sure the former chief will tell you that that's going to be its own lift in itself but that's where we have to go as a community this comes thank you obviously uh nobody in this room wants a system that doesn't work that's that's the bottom line I am hopeful that whatever system we select doesn't require opting in and I want to make sure that that we have that in mind my other concern is to make sure that we have a robust public engagement process and I'm not talking about public education I'm talking about a public engagement process with the extent of the conversation that we've just had and with some of the opinions that have already been reflected it has a little bit of a feeling that sort of the experts have already decided and this is what we're going to do and I appreciate that we have subject matter experts to call on I certainly support wildfire early detection and situational awareness I don't have any problem with the camera system I want our public to feel particularly now that they can sleep safely at night and that they will wake up if they need to buy an emergency notification and for me that's the bottom line I won't say what the notification has to be but people need to be able to sleep at night believing that they'll be notified I myself have a lot of personal experience with disasters I've been through what eight or nine tornadoes at least two hurricanes where the roof of the adjacent apartment building was torn off mine for some unusual reason wasn't but all the others in my complex were I lived within 10 miles of Three Mile Island when that nuclear disaster happened I'm only listing a few I somehow have had a lot of experience living as a resident in disasters it was really helpful when Three Mile Island was happening that the fire station had a single alarm and that I was I heard this siren that we didn't normally hear and turn the radio on that that was helpful for me in informing my evacuation I'm not requiring a siren but but I know that my own phone at home I have in addition to good cell phone service a landline it doesn't ring nixle doesn't serve it there isn't really a mechanism for nixle to send my landline a text message so I'm trying to figure out what's going to wake me up because a text message isn't going to wake me up either so whatever we do we need a robust public engagement process and we need to be able to tell our residents that they can sleep at night and they will be woken if they need to be so that's that's my only that's my bottom line and I look forward to how we solve that going forward thanks right I hear you I couldn't agree more I will tell you that we use the Sonoma County use the wea system on the Palafair and the fire in Sonoma about a month and a half ago and they they choked it down to a small area and they sent out the alert and afterwards it's like all right who got it you know start making some phone calls make sure people receive it people on AT&T got it people on Verizon didn't and it was a function where I might have that backwards but one or the other didn't get it and as a function of where you drew the circle and what cell towels were in that circle so it's a it's a very complex issue that we're trying to parse through and I will tell you nixle that's part of our our problem there's confusion over nixle sokola wea eas nixle is an informational system that people sign up to get information from largely law enforcement on multiple items some departments use it as a community engagement and others just simply give information when it's needed sometimes it's hard when what it gives me is that santa is flying right it's like a minute i'm alerting to this because i'm yeah it's too close to a fire for that so while nixle was used a lot on in october that's really uh and it worked for the people around nixle we need to make sure people sign up for sokola which is opt-in but also we're going to use the with the county has already said we're going to use the wireless emergency system and we're going to use eas so eas is the amber system if you have a step comparable to reverse 911 yes sokola is also comparable to so if you have a landline it should work already but you got to sign up for your and that's the p for your cell phone the opt-in piece concerns me right but let's we don't need to solve it right today i just want to make sure i just have a robust yeah engagement i guess my point is is we're going to use everything we're not going to use one or the other we're using all of it and and this may lead to some additional conversations the mayor and i sat in it and the chief and i sat in a conversation with the FCC shortly after the event and we can say that at least from my perspective i'm sure the two other gentlemen would concur that was a less than satisfactory conversation about the FCC's potential role in making sure that this interoperability between private providers is there but that that's going to be that's going to be a lift that we're going to have to make on a national level and our allies are aware of that conversation but there there is going to have to be those types of conversations about interoperability as we go through this process. Mr. Schwedhelmmer. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Thanks Chief for this information just that interoperability so the Sonoma water has purchased the eight cameras you know i've seen them and they're great have they committed to actually integrating with what we may do if we do them and the county yes they have everyone we all have to work together there's just no i'll get that he said that the outer is been riding somewhere well i've heard it aloud i've not seen it in writing thank you but it is allowed okay and then so with this program this is just the city san rosa correct we're competing for just with this one project 287 in conjunction with the county it's to tie in with the county so that's my question is are we competing against them or are we individual so this particular so what it is is work we're working with them the the request that we're asking a council for that specific item is to allocate funds so that we can participate with their application so it's one application that the county will be submitting we would be a we would be a partner with them on that application and do they have similar dollar amounts that we do yes so what we 25 percent is the local match and we would be splitting that that local match with the county and an appropriate number of cameras would be located within an area that would benefit the city that was my next question but we don't know what that appropriate number is i guess one of the struggles is and i love doing this collaboration we're 43 square miles how many hundreds of square miles is the county responsible for in a 50 50 split may not seem like is that the most equitable way of doing it well i think is this is an evolving conversation we're commit we want to show the commitment to that but that is our underlying thesis is that we're going to be doing this in a way that benefits our citizens that's where our share is coming from great and then the other question i have is about the safety of the cameras just like when we relocated the fire station we got the temporary one for a buck but then there's a million bucks to do all the infrastructure um where would these be located i mean it sounds funny and they can put them on a tallest tree so you get the best view which then makes them susceptible to being if the tree burns are there additional costs for actually the infrastructure to mount the cameras or is it including these dollar figures or might we have to you might you have to come back to us to fund the actual structure to mount the cameras we'll bring neil and he's the other expert no pressure neil so just to back up a little bit there's essentially three phases of cameras there's the water agency one that's going in now there's PG&E and then there's the ones that would come under this project which essentially by the end of when all the cameras got installed would look at a huge amount of not only the county of sonoma but the areas in wildland and other counties that would come in so if the fire were coming in from somewhere else it would give us the ability in within this project you're looking at infrastructure included for essentially 10 cameras that would be part of this system what i've been when i sit with the county advocating for is that our 250 thousand dollars would go for cameras in locations like up in sky farm in areas that benefit the city on where they look out on and yeah what you're seeing represented there as far as our local match is the cost of the camera if you have to use something called backhaul on data so in other words microwave so it can send the pictures to dispatch to see making sure that there's power and backup power for all of it so within the price tag you're seeing there we're joining in on 10 cameras probably three to four of those would be locations and not necessarily within the city but protecting the city in the areas they look at okay one of the reasons why I bring this up you all probably remember when the fire was setting towards mount san liven there's some key communication towers and if the fire reached it that was going to create a whole other bunch of problems so i'm just wondering what you know we can do to ensure that yeah the camera is safe and secure and is going to continue to do what we're paying for to do well there's a lot of unknown so what i would say is the lesson that we've here heard continually is infrastructure is going to at some point fail so what you're trying to do is position these the best place to make yourself situable awareness take into account what your what your your concerns are and i think that's what the teams are that they're in the safest most robust location that we can place them so they might be on another piece of infrastructure that's uh uh more protected than if they were up on a tall tree those things are taken into consideration but at the end of the day the value added proposition is for evacuations and saving life and property and if we lose a camera in the endeavor of doing that i think that that is what we're trying to do is to try to create that most protective but that is protecting the asset is part of the conversation as well and the benefit here is that this is with the number of cameras and sort of they will kind of bend diagram over an area you have redundant cameras viewing an area so if god forbid we lost a camera or a few within the infrastructure of the cameras themselves and that communication you still are looking out at that area great all right thank you very much councilman olivares thank you mayor uh chief as you continue to work with the county and others on some of the uh i guess solutions for identifying in the warning can we uh check to see where we are with other technology related to satellites i think uh maybe five years ago i saw something on pbs uh talk about satellite technology and identifying wildfires where they'd be able to come down and identify a fire as small which is not pretty small as an acre and i don't know what that technology is uh and i think at back then they were thinking of maybe uh a satellite would cover the entire western states uh so i don't know what that is but it sounds like something i don't know how it has evolved since then and whether anything's happening so so again we have not um uh the experience i've had and the experience that some of the team is going to have is the scientific research that's taking place in san diego i won't necessarily say it's fully satellite driven but they're doing things like monitoring the amount of moisture in the soil and in the air in in particular locations that feeds into the meteorological team and it is a meteorological team that is working for san diego gas and electric they started this again in their response to the 2003-2007 they're using the latest science that's part of the reason i've asked that that group to provide that entree for for the recovery and um rebuild ad hoc um to look at that particular infrastructure but we are trying to take the latest science into consideration because i'm not understanding is that was specific to fires and to be able to identify wildland fires so i don't know what that technology is today yeah i know during our fire we we ended up having a drone fly over our fire but it took you know four or five days to get that up and running right so the thought is how do we get this up way before you know so we can use it to our advantage and uh so that technology is evolving and it's coming faster than ever uh but i will tell you the board of supervisors meaning today they're talking about technology and it seems like every two to three years there's something different that overtakes what you already have and infrastructure is very expensive to turn over constantly so we're trying to make sure that we have a system that that makes sense for a long time at least we can build into that satellite type type stuff any questions um is there a time limit for spending these mitigation funds should we receive them do they have to be spent in a certain amount of time three yes three years okay and you know we we talk about a lot of federal programs we've got FEMA we've got HUD we've got cbdg how does how does this mitigation money differ from from the cbdg mitigation money so that's a good question um right now there's a mitigation pool that exists within uh cdg dr that the federal government it's new to the federal government i think it was actually created in response to some of the collapsed infrastructure in portorico um that they're still piecing their way through what i can tell council is that now that we know a little bit more about the dr money um some of the match that you may be looking to do later on may actually be applicable through dr funds because the dr funds are not just about um a um unmet need as it relates to housing they're about protecting the housing so you don't have this kind of recurring event in the future so there's actually clear language in the in the in the register that was published today that said you must evaluate make you must improve your infrastructure to meet the needs and be make protective measures um that will address and mitigate future similar disasters so there is an opportunity for us to utilize some of that other funding to help meet the match needs as it relates to some of these projects as we move forward we'll be bringing that conversation forward as we go through the entire unmet need conversation in the next three months thank you yeah the hazard mitigation grant program is a competitive process uh it it's it's a statewide competitive process uh where the dr funds the dr funds will be delegated to specific um regions uh and uh so there there is a difference in how the funds get delegated to different organizations so from the from the hazard mitigation standpoint each of these projects will go on a statewide similar to other grant proposals that we might set out there uh and they will be selected based on merit um we think that by submitting the grants that we've proposed at both the july 1st and the september 4th we think we've got some great projects we think they'll be very competitive but it is competitive and so the the ultimate but there's no there's no guarantee that will be that will be selected so as we're asking as we get into the recommendation on this um we're recommending that the council authorize the submittal of the grants uh and that they um set aside general funds to be able to pay for the local match should all six of those grants be approved i don't know how likely that is we obviously from staff standpoint would hope that they would be i think it would provide the highest level of protection for the community um it does come at at a cost uh the number that that um you see on the screen as unfortunately as i mentioned earlier is inaccurate based on the last minute change relating to the early notification program and so the total uh applications being requested would amount to uh five million seven hundred thirty one million five million seven hundred thirty one thousand four hundred and sixty two dollars uh in federal funds with a local match of one million one hundred and eighty two thousand dollars eight hundred and sixty six so um so the uh total application request from FEMA would be five million seven hundred thirty one thousand four hundred and sixty two the local match meaning the request for general fund dollars would be one million one hundred and eighty two thousand eight hundred and sixty six uh so that would be what we'd be we're asking council to approve as we move forward with these grant applications uh and then as obligations come forward we would be asked to move to uh incorporate those funds into the agreement with FEMA and Calloway asks and that one one million one hundred and eighty two thousand would would be from the reserves at this point that would be from the reserves correct so um i was asked by the cfo to if ask that question to remind you that we do have six point six million dollars in reserves and that would reduce the reserves to approximately five point four five point five million dollars and with that um i know we've spent a bit of time talking about Tony's project if you have questions about any of the other projects that are on there in more detail um staff is here if i can't answer the question to provide the higher level of detail can we also hear briefly about the local match that's needed for the the um water enterprise fund we can i wasn't prepared to really describe that but we can't absolutely uh so if you look at the table um that was provided so from a local match standpoint uh the majority of the local match that's associated on the table comes from the water enterprise fund it's it's approximately nine million dollars so the the matching funds for project 167 which is the backup generator is 1.845 million um for one project 196 which is the seismic and water supply improvements is 2.1 million dollars and the water treatment facility flood mitigation is three point roughly seven point four million dollars that last one would come from the sub regional capital fund the project 196 would be from the water capital fund and then project 167 would be a split between the water and water enterprise fund and is that from um water enterprise fund reserves how does that i'm gonna have to ask either ben or joe to come down and answer that question excuse me just one moment i think i have a list i just didn't have it broken out so the funds are broken up into several areas they include as as director nut mentioned the water and wastewater enterprise funds the capital fund and the sub regional capital fund and some of these have already been allocated through the the capital improvement program so they would offset the get the grant program but i do not believe those come from water reserves it's a mix and that that is because they're the projects consist of you the backup generators will be at both water facilities and at wastewater facilities and then the flood wall is at the treatment plant so you have sub regional funds that will be added or that will come from there okay the flood wall has been in the capital improvement plan for a while at this point that's correct any other questions miss combs thank you while you're there can you just clarify for me why 290 is general fund and not water related i appreciate that storm drains yeah so that's so our storm drain program actually is a general funded program even though it resides in the santa rosa water department it does receive general funds because it's generalized infrastructure it doesn't have it doesn't have a 218 oriented funding source that supports its entire operation so there is some there is some question about that we're investigating that right now but at this time that that is where it it sits but we staff is actually both both in the city manager's office the water utility and in the legal department investigating some recent decisions and and and seeing where that will ultimately reside but that's still an open question and so that's why it's in a general fund thank you any other questions council does that conclude your presentation yes it does thank you a couple of cards here peter turnf so it's really astounding to me that's so much effort will be put into a situation where you're trying to control the actions of creator almighty you're trying to abate the actions of creator almighty and believe me i am well aware that of my own responsibility as everything is connected you talk about cameras cameras cameras maybe we should examine a picture of ourselves some say this is the new normal i think that's insane the blinded public are responsible for the conditions of our illusionary reality the spirituality to spiritually detect true cause and effect the cause being the continuing of oil in the slaughter house and you've all been we've all been witnessing the effect it's been said long ago and i know you heard this that those who seek to save their lives shall lose them and things and because the public the people want to maintain the slaughter house and oil industry more and more things get more and more hazardous for firefighters and law enforcement and fema is the icing on the cake of this banker's coup federal domination how's that sit with the u.s constitution no system will work when almighty remains denied serving two masters maintains all these disasters and man's efforts while denying creator be fruitless how many firefighters need perish how many firefighters have watched tens of thousands of homes and buildings burn and more or less all they could do is watch we've been given all the opportunities in this beautiful place to change everything for the better and yet we choose not to we're trying to correct actions of almighty and yet even here with this huge project in santa rosa where uh they say only 30 of the labor will come from local workers that's unacceptable if they're usurping our common sense loyalty and hopes seems more and more evident to all out of state and out of country influences are really ruling ruling our roost and again serving users bankers in the bar who have stolen their power from our liberty it's time for labor to arise with no more compromise and shut things down with the freedom strike for the iron rod of god has now passed through california three times via incineration otherwise known as the hoppy prophecy purification bob hanson good afternoon everybody since i retired i volunteer a 30 day fire lookout position in idaho a trained observer sitting on top of a mountain with a battery powered communication system and a good firefinder is better than any camera range in idaho of 50 miles i've reported fires up to 50 miles 360 degree view why can't we develop a system of volunteer fire lookouts on top of our mountains it worse than idaho or worse fine they have no problem staffing it with volunteer ex fireman ex national forest within one minute of me reporting a smoke i am in touch with idaho department of lands federal fire state fire and local fire within one minute a volunteer fire lookout system to me is the answer to this not 10 million dollars on cameras volunteer trained lookouts on top of our mountains let's explore that option i know we're gonna have no problem staffing it with qualified people i'll be one of them this year i couldn't go up in july because our fire lookout was trashed over the winter i'm scheduled to go up next fall and rebuild it but this is a system that works nominal taxpayer dollars let's explore that thank you that's all the cards i have mr tibet you have this item item 141 in the council the city of san erosa motion to approve the submittal of six 404 hazard mitigation grant program project applications requesting five million four hundred four thousand eight hundred forty seven dollars and federal funds and appropriate general funds totaling one million four hundred sixty four thousand one hundred sixteen is the local match and wait for the reading of the text excuse me mayor if i could correct those numbers just briefly uh the total program number is five million seven hundred thirty one thousand four hundred sixty two and the amount of general fund it totals one million one hundred eighty two thousand eight hundred and sixty six i apologize again for that five million seven hundred thirty one thousand four hundred sixty two and the local match being one million one hundred eighty two thousand eight hundred sixty six second thank you your votes and that passes with six eyes thank you very much these gomas do you have cards for item 13 moving back to item 13 public comment on items not on the agenda start with a lima silverman followed by debbie griffin hello i'm a lima silverman good afternoon mr mayor and other council members i'm an architect here in san erosa here of the rebuild green coalition which is a coalition of architects engineers and others that are helping people rebuild from the fires i'm also helping people within san erosa build ad us accessory dwelling units and that's what i'm here to talk about tonight or this afternoon the primary issue it has to do with water and sewer connections if someone wants to build an adu in their backyard they are required by the city of santa rosa to put in a separate water and sewer connection no other city in sonoma county requires that but the city of santa rosa does so i have spoken with uh david gurin back in early july but i haven't heard back from him yet but yesterday i had the best information from a city staff member who said that the regional cpu c not the state but the regional cpu c made the water and sewer connection fees a requirement based on a request from the city of santa rosa water department now i don't know if that's true or not but it's back on you so i just think that requirement needs to go away in order for people to actually build ad us within the city so housing is you know what we're all about here right now so i'm here to offer assistance to either people in the city or elsewhere to help build ad us within the city so that we can have more housing so that's my agenda thank you thank you for allowing me to speak thank you debbie griffin followed by ann cealy is debbie griffin here and you're up and will be followed by peter churnoff mayor corsea of council members i sent you an email last night and thank you mayor corsea for responding to my questions and comments i have to say before i continue that i'm delighted to hear all the discussion about sirens in today so far in your council meeting i'm speaking for concerned citizens for santa rosa and saying i want to go on record for strongly recommending that the city and county invest and implement a system of sirens placed in each neighborhood to alert people of a major danger whether it be fire or earthquake this seems to me eminently sensible as the sound would reach everyone's ears whether inside or out and would lead people to investigate what's happening further than by media or phone or by knocking on neighbors doors the many alternatives that i've heard about in the newspaper and online that are being discussed depend on electronics on next cell phone alerts specifically which i think are an unreliable way of reaching everyone i have my cell phone tucked away in my purse in another room while i'm sleeping i wouldn't be alerted to any danger the sirens of which i speak are the sort used to alert cities of incoming air raids that sort of system served a population 50 years ago and is a much simpler yet comprehensive system than others being proposed i hope to hear that there's some progress in creating this system this might fit into the FEMA grants thank you and i'm glad to hear that you're working with the county on this thank you peter turnip followed by bob hanson i think that guy uh tony gullardy i'm not sure if i spelled his name right he's got one of the best jobs around especially here in sonoma county and our new miss sonoma county definitely spoke and responded with a sincere depth and and heart it was impressive so the Guinness World Book of Records it's time to break some records i'm looking at a yoga karmic exercise of 40 days and 40 nights i'm looking at drum circles we got some of the best drummers in the world right here in these counties onye and mickey heart and at least two or three others how much fun would that be you're all invited to the party by the way and after the 40 day exercise where you know we not spent any money anywhere we decide uh perhaps to to pay only 25 percent of what we were paying before for mortgages and rents and all utilities will be just a $25 if that having entertained that idea that that means about 340,000 city county and work state workers can now go to a 20-hour week and have more than before which just opened up 340,000 new jobs not bad so then then of course we start some garden programs in the in the labor and construction guys can build a 10,000 football field-sized greenhouses and so on and so on what about law enforcement well we got 90,000 law enforcement in california maybe they can go to a 20-hour work week and still make more than before less stress and you can hire up some uh some veterans that could use some camaraderie and work and at the same time you know in california we got 320,000 bar lawyers and ever-increasing who portray as professional intellectuals of a treasonously contrived industry of uncountable rules with thousands more each year because the more lawyers need more rules so they got more jobs well as the u.s constitution would be ruling the nation first time ever out of this after this 40 day exercise 95 of the bar attorneys will have no work but since we've had electric cars and since 1904 and we'll bring back the horses and carriages it'd be nice to uh offer these people new jobs because we'll we'll definitely need street cleaners at this time anyways have a beautiful evening bob hanson followed by victor pewterbaugh last city council meeting jack Tibbets gave us an excellent presentation on the upcoming bond issue i could tell by his presentation the amount of work he put into it but 30 of the residential housing built by a trained construction industry 30 percent 20 percent goes to apprentices 10 percent to journeyman that's unacceptable our residential housing in city of santa rosa should be 100 percent local contractors skilled trained construction a year ago i filed a complaint with the california board of contractors construction crew came in two million dollar renovation product on public housing as a retired 35 year carpenter i was embarrassed on the quality of construction being performed by this construction crew this was a construction crew the contractor hired off the street corners bought them a set of nail bags and a t-shirt called them and billed them as carpenters plumbers electricians they didn't build the code they didn't use materials that met california code specs when the foreman left the job construction stopped censors were posted on the two access points when he returned construction resumed i'm going to vote no on this bond issue and i'm going to tell you why first and foremost we just squeak through a five-year drought barely what's projected for our state is a 30 year drought starting in eight years our aquifers are down 100 120 feet takes eight years of normal rainfall to regenerate back to normal when this 30 year drought is starting we can't guarantee a water supply for this construction agenda second the six billion dollar bond is going to turn into 12.2 billion on maturity agenda this bond issue does not benefit the registered voters of our city thank you mr. hanson negatively impact the quality of life thank you mr. hanson thank you victor pewterbaugh followed by kathleen winston is victor here kathleen okay i'm begging you not to listen to him because i'm one of the people that live that i'm one of the homeless people that i live in my car over on apollo way and we are circled around apollo way and challenger drive homeless people living in rvs trucks and vehicles because there is not enough affordable housing for us we do not have enough money to rent at these outrageously high rents that have gone up desperately need affordable housing we've been in a 30 year drought i don't know what he's talking about that it's going to start in eight years we've been in a 30 year drought for the past three decades already but we definitely need that housing what are we supposed to do we have to hide like rats now because there's no place for us to go we need a place to be home again i just witnessed an older man get his car his truck towed away yesterday and it made me so sad because that man that's all his possessions and his home and they just came and towed it away i live in my car i'm 68 years old i worked i paid 300 a month taxes out of my paycheck which was the highest rate of pay i made was seven dollars and 60 cents an hour that's why people elderly and disabled people on social security are not finding places to live now because we desperately need affordable housing our culture our society our communities did not pay us enough money so that we could live on our social security and now we desperately need affordable housing please get some bill because if they don't build it there's a whole another generation coming up that's going to be needing that affordable housing thank you thank you thank you miss Winston Gabriel sendo thank you council members for being here today the topic that she was actually discussing i'm speaking on the other side of i am an employee of the north point business park and i have to say that over the last couple of months the growing homeless encampments have become a problem not only have there been increasing numbers of individuals joining the community there but problems have started you know use of drugs and sale of drugs has become rampant break-ins to vehicles and property has become pretty common i had one of my friends whose vehicle was broken into and then the next day she also found someone sleeping in it when she came out after work in addition to that you know razor blades and human waste have been found all over the park you know they dump it into the field they dump it into the wastewater management and some of the sewer drains nearby and you know on top of that there's diseases i've worked in a dog friendly environment for a number of years now and we've never had any issues with disease until in the last week two of our dogs got parvo and they they were separated from each other and had never had any you know interaction with each other except for walking around on the streets on top of that the citizens in the area you know they need housing they need somewhere to go they've been kicked out of the the paths and the walkways and the various parks in the area and this is the last venture and unfortunately there's not really anywhere else for them to go unless you open up some of the publicly owned areas within san aroza i know that there's plenty of land that we could send them to i mean there's an article in the press democrat right now that's discussing you know an encampment that they had set up and there's a couple of videos on youtube discussing the same kind of thing and it worked for a little while but there were either too many people or not enough well positioned and well thought out management to handle it so everyone just scattered and what ends up happening is you end up with these communities that start off with great intentions you know we've had a few uh individuals in rvs in that area for years and they've never caused any problems but once you start getting large populations you know unfortunately bad apples start to show up and they poison the the well water as it were it's caused issues to the point where we've had to hire private security across the entire park to prevent people from being accosted at night one of my friends was threatened with a knife when he was leaving for his vehicle in the afternoon not even in the evening in broad daylight you know there's pools of human waste and people sleeping out in the lawns with piles of trash and bikes everywhere it's a problem and it needs to be dealt with find some solution for these people find find some affordable housing find some where that they can go get them some help get us some help thank you that's all the cards i have there's a written communication the quarterly boards commissions and committees attendance report with that we are adjourned