 This is St. Tech, Hawaii, community. Well, hello, ha, and how are you doing? Welcome to E-Botchy Talk. Gordo, the techs are here. The good old buddy Andrew, the security guy. Thought you were going to forget your name. Hello, everybody. I'm going to be here. I know who I am. He kind of slowed down there. He kind of slowed down. Then we got Andrew, the security guy. We got Dieter. Dieter, nice to see you, bud. Dieter, Mr. Gibbon. Nice to see you. Welcome on the set. We're going to talk about the symposium, upcoming symposium for a safer Hawaii, which you're going to be intimately involved with. I think I'm involved with it too, but I'll find out later. Anyway, so grab yourself a chair. Have a libation. Join us for another off-the-scale test. I'm having a powerful water libation. But first, I have my little rat that I do every day. I'm being very thematic lately, a lot on Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, and so on. But I'm going to talk a little upside, though. It's a kind of rant with an upside. So fidelity investments. You've heard of those guys? Yes. Right? So they now allow its clients to view their Bitcoin, Ethercoin, or Litecoin through their web portal and be able to go directly to Coinbase and see how their investments in Bitcoin are doing. Okay. Awesome. Can they trade back and forth? Not yet. Okay. But the cool thing about this is what, except in Hawaii, because Hawaii, the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs shut down Coinbase in Hawaii. So if you have a fidelity account and you want to track your Bitcoin investments, you cannot. Yeah. So can you sue the DCCA for impinging upon your services unfairly? Yeah. So, again, you're not allowed to take advantage of your portal fully because of a state like... The state is limiting my ability to go to Coinbase and track my... Yeah. First of all, I don't have any in there because they wouldn't allow me to invest using Coinbase. So in Hawaii, I wouldn't have a reason to go there because they didn't let me. But I got other places I go. Yeah. So anyway. But it's like they're depriving you of services. Yeah. So and then the other thing they also announced at their conference this year, they're Bitcoin plans. So Fidelity is talking about Bitcoin plans and what they're going to do in that space. Employees can now buy their meals at their restaurant in their cafeteria with Bitcoin. Oh, at the Fidelity cafeteria? That's awesome. You can use Bitcoin to buy your lunch. Do we have that at our iced tea? I don't know. I'll talk to the boss. So anyway, yeah, you should talk about that. And then I've got a couple of local retailers I'll be talking to next week who are in the process and we're going to be setting them up and they'll start accepting Bitcoin as transactions. And what do they sell? They sell... Libations. Libations. Pizza. Great sandwiches. Very well. That sounds like one of our former guests. It's one of our former guests. So that's happening. Anyway, that was my little mini rant. That wasn't even a rant. That's kind of a biggie thing. But I still like getting a jab into the DCCA. I just don't love doing that. Anyway, Dieter. Yes. We always like to learn a little bit about our guests. And so tell us a little bit about the background. So where did you go to school? Well, I... From Trump. Well, I'm originally from California. So I grew up in a beautiful central coast, Monterey. Went to school, Monterey High School, went to college, Sonoma State. After a four-year trip serving Uncle Sam's Navy out here in Hawaii. So I stayed in out here for a few years, went back to California and then came back here post-911. I was in the valley working actually doing computer design software and engineering. I was selling software programs. Unfortunately, post-911, the tech bubble and the Bay Area Crushed and... The Bay Area Crushed. It pretty much imploded. Yeah. I've never seen anything like that in my life. Wow. And I found myself out here. Back out here. How long have you been here? Not back out here. Moved out here in O2. O2. Wow. What have you been doing? What have you been doing? Yeah. You should know. Trying to figure that out. I don't know. But you're in the... And we're going to talk about this upcoming symposium, but you've been in this access control security system business for quite some period of time. Well, I've been in sales for quite some time. Security I'm a little bit newer at, been a few years. But I've done a lot of work with high tech and it kind of fit right into my knowledge based on technology. So it's a fun industry, I've got to say. It's pretty neat. It's ever-changing. So it keeps me on my toes. That is for sure. I mean, it's one of the... Actually, I think it's one of the fastest growing, I'll call it modern industries now that I've seen in a long time. You know, cryptocurrency is one of my favorites. That's pretty modern. That's ultra-modern. But what's happening in this space, with the access controls, cameras, the internet of everything, the smarts in the cameras, smarts in the doors, all that kind of stuff, it's really just going through its massive metamorphosis right now. What I think is telling is the fact that we're starting to really bounce up against privacy concern where security and privacy have always had a tenuous relationship with each other. The technology itself has become so intelligent that it's on the point of invasive or not. Those questions are a little trickier today when you have multi-factor authentication and things like that. I'm gathering biometric data from someone to use in a system. So it's interesting. And those are the discussions that I find interesting. Yeah. And you're in the Fed space. So you're seeing it from... Now when you say the Fed space, is that DOD, or is that federal government, or all of the above? All the above. All the above, yeah. So they look at it from a different perspective than you would say the John Q. Public. I would think. They do. You know, currently today it's kind of interesting because the Fed is going through a change as well. They have new directives on how they want to secure their bases. In fact, with the new DBIDs that just came out for the gates going on a biometric system. So the Fed space traditionally, you know, access control was kind of like, I'm going to punch in my key, I'm going to open the door, and it's changed a lot. It's true. It's changed from multi-levels where, you know, from what we call a secured, what we call a SCIF, which is a secured top secret space where you have an X10 tumble on the front to get in to now where I present my credentials at the gate, or I present my credentials at the door, and it actually tracks who I am. A picture of me will pop up, so they will know me just to get into a door. So it goes all the gamut today, so it's really, really pretty interesting where that space is going. Well, you know, without getting into divulging top secrets or any of those kinds of things, I mean, there's all different entities within the federal space. I mean, all the different branches of the military, and there's the federal governments themselves. Do they have one ID credentialing system that allows them to go across all the different disciplines? Well, for the DoD, yes. The DoD actually has what they call the CAC. The CAC card. So it's a CAC card. It runs on the Deer system. There's different databases to go through there, and it's actually a smart chip now, so it's changed a lot. But other areas within the Fed space, they have their own version of the CAC. So like the FBI has their own version of the CAC, the difference, like... The CIA probably has their own. I don't know. I can't talk about that. Can't talk about that. Well, the executive, so as public knowledge, the executive branch uses PIV. Yeah. Okay. So PIV, right? PIV 201 compliant. Yeah. So, and then the rest of these other cards for other agencies outside of the executive branch are PIV compatible, PIV interoperable, PIV all kind of, all kind of flavor. You and I played with that for the city for a while, remember that? Yeah. So I remember, and I think it was good for our viewers to think about this, is that you work for a company, whether it be a bank or a tech company or whatever, they've given you a credential that you can or cannot use to get in and out of certain doors. And there's just a plethora of different ways that these are all managed, controlled, operated, and so on. There's no common integrated piece, like there's iPhone, Samsung, all the different players, right? They all run a little bit differently. Now you've got all these access cards all running differently. Yep. Well, someone more secure systems than others. And that's what currently is the conundrum with the federal government is standardizing on single areas. So I can tell you right now, if I were going to go to, let's say, PAKOM to Compact Fleet to the Marines, I'm going through three different access control systems because they're, so it's not a standardized access control system. So it's a question of getting, getting my credentialing to go across all platforms. And it's, and it's difficult because I may have one company that's still using old Magstripe technology. I may be using another one that's using iClass technology, and I may be using one that's actually using PIVClass technology. So it's, it's tough to, to kind of do it because there's no, there's no centralized directive saying you must standardize on all this right now today, other than some other standard saying, hey, we want you to use ODSP, we want you to use FIPS 145-2 encryption. And then after that, it kind of falls all on your own. So it's kind of like the battle. I wonder if the millennials know this when they had beta and VHS, right? And then, you know, VHS1 became the standard, but then who has a VHS now? And so then, you know, but there's still VHS type recorders up there to this day. Some non-fed or whatever organization. Well, these guys are actually recording video on tape. Yeah, analog tape. Today. Today. Well, it's less lossy. So digital always has lost, you know, with the video that people don't often think about. So sometimes there's reasons for that analog recording. The, I think another interesting facet that you sort of touched on is that, you know, the, the, the executive branch, the federal government's a lot better about driving its requirements from a risk assessment perspective. Right. And so, you know, the, they really look at the, the level of protection that asset needs. He mentioned the skiff, for example, which is going to need the highest level of protection. So, you know, you don't want to spend a whole lot of money securing 30 doors around the outside of a building when there's only really one room that's important. So you secure that door because the expense is higher. And the, the level of credentialing, the level of technology that goes into those credentials is also more expensive. So, you know, a PIV card is, you know, somewhere a little south of $200 per car. Yeah, for, for a batch, right? So our, our commercial grade eye class, which you mentioned, which is still a different type of technology, yeah, an eye class credential might be a couple bucks. Yeah. So, you know, there's, there's that piece of the industry that also is trying to align itself with what we would call best practice, but it's not always the best practice to go spend, you know, $200 per car for you. Okay. So there's this class, right? Then there's a PIV card. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a, this is a des, a desfire card over here. This card can, this card can do desfire as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's a, that's the back end. So when you say OSTP, open supervised device protocol. Which is one of the first in the state to re-roll that. Yeah. So that, and that's the newest. So we've gotten rid of that Wagon protocol, which we couldn't protect with the OSTP. We can actually protect that. Now we have a client that's actually running on the first in the state, running on the state. Well, this, the nice thing here, this one also. I think you need a new one, it's kind of free. Yeah, this guy, this guy can run some, some cryptography between the actual card and the reader as well. So it's a little, there's a little more. It isn't always used, but that's another piece of the puzzle. So. But that's the, that's the, and that's where we, and this, when the second half of the show, we'll talk about the symposium and what that's going to get to people. But I think, from the viewer perspective is that, that there is a lot more to this than what you, what you, you think when it comes to protecting you, your family. I mean, your coworkers, your coworkers and whatever. And I don't care if you're going to a big box store or wherever and you're buying this stuff off the shelf, you better make sure you've secured it and it comes with instructions on how to secure it itself. How to lock it down, how to lock it down. Like cycle management pieces. Because it's just, it's just, you know, you hear about all these guys, oh, it's just, you know, 1995, go buy it, you peel it and stick it on the wall, it runs wireless, wirelessly over your network and you've got security. Well, maybe you just opened up your entire house. Yeah. To some extent. I'll touch on that a little bit in the security I think I've got a little advice on that piece of the pie. So what we'll do is, and we're coming up probably on, believe it or not, the first half of the show is almost over. OK. And we're going to go. I think we'll let Dieter talk on the next hand. OK. OK. That's it. I'm out of here. I'm just invited here. Just invited. We'll let Dieter talk. He's the pretty face today. Am I talking too much again? No, it was me. OK. Nice recovery there, co-host. Anyway, I'm going to go grab Angus. He's got something he's going to rant about. Oh, that's right. He is in the house. We'll come back and we'll talk about the upcoming symposium on Safer Hawaii. OK. Go to the text out here if you're back in a minute. This is Think Tech Hawaii, raising public awareness. You're watching Think Tech Hawaii, which streams live on thinktechhoaie.com, uploads to YouTube, and broadcasts on cable OC16 and O'Lello 54. Great content for Hawaii from Think Tech. Freedom. Is it a feeling? Is it a place? Is it an idea? 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We're talking about Symposium for a Safe for Hawaii. But for the security minutes today, I just wanted to remind everybody, there's been a lot of updates today, specifically to a lot of cameras. Possibly 10 million IoT devices have been a known vulnerability in GSO protocol. And they call this vulnerability devil's IV because it really grows and it really spreads. So make sure you're patching your video systems, your camera systems, inquire with your vendor or your manufacturer if they've got a patch. If they've written a patch for that, there's plenty of them that are out there today. And make sure you get those updates done. That's a part of good life cycle management. And you need to take care of it. All right, Angus, what's up, buddy? Good to see you, man. Hey, how you doing there, lad? All right. Hey, how's your Bitcoin doing? Mine has already gone up like 35%. 25% per week. Yeah. That cheap sucker girl never gave me any. He gave me some. Yeah, well, I got a one up on him. Hey, Dita, how you doing, lad? I am doing fine. How are you? I'm going to show what I got here. Look at this. This is awesome. This is really cool. This is my new Bit Card. Bit Pay Card. Tell me about it. It's a Visa Card. This is my gadget of the week. It's my Visa Card. It's got Bitcoin on it. But I can go to a restaurant in the store and use this to buy groceries. And it pays at US Cash. But then it's my or credits my Bitcoin account. OK. So that's awesome. So I got Bitcoin. Thank you, DCCA. And I got my Bitcoin. So you've gotten around them. I've gotten around a lot. And I got it on a Visa debit card. They collect the money off the payment anyway. So they're happy to get their cash. They're going to get their GET. Yeah, yeah, GET. So they get their GET. But guess what? I get to use my Bitcoin to buy stuff. Right on. So there. That'll teach you. Good on you. Yeah, look good on me. Very good on me. Anyway, that's my guess of the week. Check it out. Check out BitPay. Check out the BitPay wallet. And check out the BitPay Visa Mastercard. Or Visa. Visa Mastercard. What am I saying? Yeah, Visa debit card. I cannot think. My brain's in neutral. Anyway, like we see it in every one of my segments. Segments. But you're in game. Reaver, AV. Hello. Ha. Angus. Angus is just what you get. Some kind of card that goes to Bitcoin. Check out Visa. I think he was using it already. Yeah, I think he might have been at the local live-action. Pretty good stuff. Anyway, we're back with Dieter talking about symposium for a safer Hawaii. So tell us a little bit about the show. What's the deal? Well, we have an amazing symposium. And primarily what we're talking about is how we can help Hawaii go to a safer place. So we actually have four sessions. But I want to talk about mine first. And I'll talk about the others three. So we have a federal government session. And primarily what we're going to be talking about is NNN encryption. Oh, SDP. Sorry, I've always had a problem with that word. And we're going to talk about how the federal government can move to more FIPS 201 compliancy as well as 140-2 for NNN encryption. And to keep, basically what we have today is that everything is electronic today. Everything, there's ways to skim credentialing. There's ways to cheat systems. And what we want to talk about primarily to the federal side is like, hey, what can you do to help prevent this from happening? What can you do to move forward and change the way your access control is? And in fact, I'm very happy to say that we have a great keynote speaker. We have the assistant agent in charge of Hawaii for the FBI, Tuanyin, who's a cyber expert. And who's been a guest on Avachi Talk. Who's been a guest on Avachi Talk. Who's going to come and who's going to talk primarily to the people in the federal side about what they can do to protect their access control, protect their systems, and keep themselves safe. And it's like I just like to say one of the things I love to get to do is I get to protect the people that protect us. So that's great stuff. What's Gordo? I see Gordo's name on there. We're going to skip past that one. We're going to go to the other two. So first of all, let me tell you the first two days. So the first day is going to be August 29th. And our first session is from 8 a.m. to 11. And then we're going to have our second sessions from 12 to 3. So the first session is going to be all about advancements in technology and access control in the commercial space. OK, so banking, retail, critical infrastructure, all on those lines. Yeah, utilities, all on those lines. There's so many. There's so many. The list can just go on and on. But you know what I mean. That's a big session. It's a big session. So part of what we're doing is why you want to get away from 125 kHz proximity cards, why you want to get away from magnetic strike cards, why you want to move into the new areas with Desfire, with COS, with PIV class. You just feel the learn about all those things. And you get a chance to learn about that. So the next one is going to be focused on the health care sector. As you know, probably one of the biggest employers in the state is the health care sector. I mean, you have Queens, you have HPH, you have the Kaiser, state hospitals. A lot of various. So part of it is, and part of it is how do you protect yourself across the board with access control? How do you protect HIPAA? How do you get your high tech compliances? So how do you ensure that your facility is secure? Especially in something like a hospital where there's people, you've got people, clinicians, the public, wandering throughout this enterprise. Pharmacies, so pharmacies are high crime law, right? There's an opioid addiction problem out there, and there's a lot of things going on in health care. Crazy stuff. And the other side is to try to help protect your PII, your personal information out there. How do we do that? HIPAA compliancy? So on the speaker for both those sections is actually going to be the James Cruz, who's with the Department of Homeland Security, can talk to a lot, very knowledgeable person, is going to talk a lot about what Homeland Security does and how it can help support both the commercial industry and the health care industry. And also just the changes and what commercial needs and what health care needs to help protect their data. They've been funded. DHS has really been funded to reach out into some of these more regulated industries and help them with audits and things like that. So that's really powerful. And a lot of people don't know about that. They're actually looking at the blockchain. Yeah. Exactly. So as part of the health care record management and security record. Yeah, which they will probably adopt. Adopt it. It'll be the Ethereum one too, I'm predicting. Nice. This is a one day or two days? This is the first day. So it's two days. So we have the 29th. And now we're going to have the 30th. So just to let you know, the first session includes breakfast on the 29th. And the second one includes lunch. I was going to ask you a little bit later who can attend. But since you're offering up food, we'll ask that now. Well, primarily, I mean, when we talk about those two sessions, I mean, obviously commercial, if you're a bank security manager or if you're, even if you're just worried about how do I secure my space? Let's say you're opening up a retail shop tomorrow. How am I going to secure my space? Shopping center. I mean, anybody along those lines, please come down for that session. Going to be very informative. Obviously, health care, we are looking for more people that are within the health care industry. But if you're a doctor's office, you're a small private practice, you're an urgent care facility, yeah, feel free. We love to have you. And I'll tell you a little bit at the end on how you can register and who you can call to get there. And we'll get you going. So then on the 30th, we have the federal government session, which I talked about, which is from 1030 to 1230, much has been included. But then probably the best session that's going to happen is the A&E consultant sessions with Gordon Bruce as the keynote speaker over there. Yeah, you notice you put me at the end when everybody goes home. Oh, sorry. Well, no, they're not going home because I think we're going to do an open bar. No, I'm just kidding. On Gordon's cap. I'm noticing that's at 1.30, so we're going to have to rush out of here to get down there and kick off your keynote. Is that on Wednesday? That's on a Wednesday. It's on a Wednesday. All right, I have that on my calendar. I hope so. I'll drag you off the stage. I didn't do any of the planning on this. So, but so Gordon, what are you going to talk about? I have no idea. No, I'm going to talk about, I'm going to talk about my experiences in the field and also going to talk about things I see happening in the future. I'm going to do a little bit on the blockchain and try to explain how that will work in this space. So it's not going to be about the Bitcoin purse piece, but the underlying foundation behind it and how that that'll be start to get incorporated. Yeah, for every transaction. For every transaction that happens. Include going in and out of a door or taking a picture of you going in and out of a door or any of those kinds of things. So I'll talk about that as well. So how much is this? This is $3.90 free. Oh, $3.90 free. Yes, $3.90 free. And how many seats are available for people to attend? Well, right now we, I believe- About 50 per session. We've got 50 per session. I know that we're half full on the commercial and on that side. So that's a total of how many people? A couple hundred. A couple hundred. 200 people? 200 people, where's it going to be at? It's going to be at the Pacific Club. Oh, parking is awesome. So it's a great parking. It's always a good venue there. It's been a few years since we did one of these down there. So you're going to take over the place then. You think? You're going to have 200 people per day? No. 50 at a session. So 50 in the morning, then a different group of 50 in the afternoon. Oh, so you're going to break them up into four into quarters? Yeah. So they won't- So what happens if I want to come to all four? Well, you have to register for all four. It may make you have to select your primary and not allow you in the other. We'll see how full it gets. OK, so all right, because that was my little four. Yeah. OK, because I have people I want to invite. Definitely. So I got some clients that I think would be great if they went. Sure. So let's talk about what number you need to call to get there. Yeah, what's the number? We want to go to- so RSVP, you want to call 808-836-4094. So 836-4094. Or you can go online and go to www.istex.net. How do you spell ISTEX? I don't think that'll help you. No, that's not it. What is the website? You can go to our Facebook page. Our Facebook page. Sorry, what am I saying? ISTEX is your website. That's the website. There's some of those event rights for the individual sessions. You got some event rights and so on. Or you can just email us at Hibachi Talk. Yeah, or call the office or whatever. Call the office, so sorry about that. Yeah, HibachiTalkitoutlook.com. So email me and we'll get you on the invitation. We'll get you on the invitation. I'd give him my email, but it's a little too complicated. So absolutely, so welcome to- we'd like to see everybody there. It's going to be a great session. Go great sessions. And the one great thing is that if you ever wanted to know something about security, this is the time to kind of ask. We'll have panels as well. So it's not just single- we'll have multiple speakers there, as well as panels. Yeah, we're going to close out with a panel setting down there. People will get a chance to interact and see what's happening within their particular industries and things like that. You can interact with your peers and ask, hey, what are you doing? What do you have today? So it's a great time for people to actually see who their peers are and have those conversations. I don't think anyone's done one like this. Not on this magnitude. And typically not the panel sessions. You know, we've got enough expertise coming in. We felt a panel would be valuable as well. So we'll have some single-speaker stuff to put out, kind of put the information out there and get the wheels to try and then we'll jump on the panel session. Have some Q&A. So August 29th, August 30th. What time does it start in the morning? 8 AM for the morning sessions. For the 29th and 10 30 AM for the 30th. For the 30th, yeah. Yeah, the feds got to sleep in. They don't get up early enough to make it down. You said it for them. I didn't say anything. Watch your IRS phone call come in tomorrow. Anyway, I want to say, Dieter, thanks a lot, man. It was awesome. Great to have you on the show. Yeah, thanks for coming down. Thanks for inviting me. And no good effort goes unrewarded. You are now number 129 in our series of autograph solo cups. Nice. Please do not lose that. I will not. And we'll keep it in a safe place. That's a lot of Bitcoin into these things. Anyway, I'm very one-tracked lately, aren't I? Anyway, we want to thank everybody for watching the show. And this is really important stuff. And watch for this symposium. And again, if you can't remember everything, just HibachiTalk at Outlook.com. And then we'll forward this on and get you invited. Anyway, like we say at the end of every show, how you doing? How you doing?