 And the idea that you brought up the temple is an important thing. I mean, it's referred to as the temple of the Holy Ghost in the Bible. And this is a starting point, this is a stepping stone. This is definitely a step away from making the body evil. I mean, it's one thing to call the body, you know, unreal or nothing, but the ego would take the step to say the body is evil. The important part is that the body is a temple of the Holy Ghost. In the first step, it's seen that it can be used for the Holy Spirit's purpose. And in that sense, and in that sense only, is the body a temple. But once again, it has nothing to do with the body in and of itself. It has to do with that intention or that purpose in mind. And we could say that a body that is used solely for communication is a body that's being used by the Holy Spirit. And then we get into a whole discussion of communication. Yes. That communication isn't necessarily what I have been educated to believe communication is. Yes. Communication does not have to include two bodies. Right. The communication happens at a mind level, and that's the only place communication happens, is that a mind level. So why do I need a body to communicate if it only happens at the mind level? Well, every mind that seems to believe in the world believes in separation and believes in the body and believes that communication has been limited so that communion or mind communication, you might call it even telepathy or you could give it any different words, has been blocked, has been pushed out of awareness. So the body is literally has been imposed as a limit on communication. It really appears in this world that if two bodies aren't together, that communication is limited. In other words, they can't talk to each other unless they use a telephone or a walkie talkie or some kind of an aid, correspond through letters. You need material aids to help the communication. But in the ultimate sense, we're back to the belief that when the body is believed in, when the world is believed in, the world was made as a limit on communication. The world was made to defend against communication because the Holy Spirit is our communication link with the Father and the world was made to cover over that. So that the Holy Spirit has to work with the higher or the lower mind and the beliefs and as the mind lets go of its beliefs in the world, it appears gradually that powers of the mind are returned to it. In other words, telepathy and clairvoyance and intuitions and so on and so forth seem to be more prevalent to the mind when actually the mind is just returning to its natural condition. These are not superpowers that rare individuals can develop. These are very natural communication. So the communication is always there, it has always been there, but it's covered over, so there's an unawareness of it. Yes. And it's a strong investment in the body that does this. The body is the chosen home of the deceived mind. And obviously we can get back to the purposes, whereas communication is the sole purpose for the body of the Holy Spirit. The ego uses it for pride and pleasure and attack. And those are different purposes that actually constrain communication. Okay, so even before we get into the pride, get into the pride, pleasure and attack of the ego's use for the body to kind of complete what we were saying about the Holy Spirit's use for the body, are you saying that, you know, my question was if communication is solely at a mind level, why have a body to be used for communication? And I think what I hear you saying is that as long as the mind believes in the body, then the Holy Spirit uses that body for communication. Yes. It's only the belief in the body that has the body enter into the communication at all. Yes. Because without that belief, you know, there would be that full total awareness that there is the communication already at a mind level. Yes. There are no bodies in the Holy Instant. Revelation is beyond bodies. It's direct communication from God to God's creation, and it's light. And this is the attraction of the Holy Instant, that is the mind gives up its false ideas and false beliefs and judgments, and then it is drawn into the Holy Instant, where communication is completely restored. But a mind that is deceived and believes in the world and believes in bodies, therefore, in a sense, bodies are like symbols. The Holy Spirit will reach the mind in whatever way that he can. It can be a friend coming through the voice of a friend that you're speaking to. It can be on a sign of a billboard or in a record lyric or just on and on and on and on. There's just many ways, many forms, but in that sense, the body is a symbol. And the Holy Spirit is using symbols to reach the deceived mind because the deceived mind believes in symbols. And also, from a metaphorical sense, as we move forward and as we get clearer and clearer, and we're able to line up with the Holy Spirit's purpose, we are asked to reach our brothers who believe in the world, who believe in time, who believe in separation, who believe in the body. Yes, and reach them using symbols that they can hear and they can understand. And once again, we have Jesus who is a great example of that, who spoke in parables when he spoke to the masses and spoke of higher ideals and concepts, particularly with the apostles and disciples and those that had the ears to hear. But in both cases, this Holy Spirit speaking through him using symbols to reach the mind at a place where it can grasp it. We also have examples of Jesus going off into communion with the Father into the silence where of coming together, there are various texts like the Aquarian Gospel where he's talked about going into the silence with the silent brotherhood for a period of days into silent communion where not a word was spoken. And once again, here we have a range of what we would call communication with words, which is still very crude, but as the beliefs are let go of in the mind, we come back to communion, which is totally wordless, yes. The Holy Spirit really uses everything that He uses at all within the illusion and the symbol, right? It's interesting too. I mean, we can get pretty deep to the point that that's metaphorical too, to say that the Holy Spirit uses the symbols of the world still can bring a sense of the Holy Spirit working in the world. And the Holy Spirit is external to my mind. Somehow there's a distinction between inner and outer, and He's in the outer and I'm in the inner. Yes, and that's a common thing to a mind that believes that it's in the world. First, it has no conception of the inner life. It's so convinced of the concrete and the specific that it needs specific symbols. And these can take many forms, as we've said, to appearances by angels and visions and all kinds of different voices and so on and so forth, near-death experiences, it just goes on and on. However, if we pull it back and we really see that the Holy Spirit is the light, the abstract light in the mind, that literally the Holy Spirit is working with the lower mind or the beliefs, so that when the mind starts to open up to the light and starts to let go of some beliefs and limits and concepts that it has placed on itself, then the symbols appear and are perceived by the mind. And it can appear as if there's something external that's tinkering with the world and giving me parky spaces or providing me rent money on the last day when I needed or so on and so forth. It can seem that these things are happening to me and he's literally going before me and making straight my way and leaving those tones to trip on, which is a passage from the Course. And this is a perception of a mind that believes in the world and it's kind of a gentle kind of a comfort as if things are being provided when actually the mind is simply laying aside beliefs and it's perceiving a world in which things seem to be being taken care of and flowing. So the Holy Spirit is not working in the world within the illusion, but working within the mind. And in the mind's perception of the world changes accordingly. And so it seems that the Holy Spirit had a direct effect on something in the world when actually the direct effect is merely on the mind that outpictures the world. Yes, it's an interpretation, you know, it's definitely an interpretation. It can seem as if things are clicking in now whereas things before seem like an uphill struggle and actually the mind is just opening to the guidance and following the guidance. Is that an indication of a greater receptivity in mind to be directed? Yes, it's symbolic. Okay, let's go back to the ego's use for the body. Uses are pride, pleasure and attack. Yes. You want to address those? Yes, well, we can take them one at a time. Pride gets to a topic we were talking about yesterday, the subject-object split or the belief in personhood. All pride really comes down to a desperate attempt to maintain a belief in personhood of being an individual person and actually perceiving other individual persons which keeps that split between self and other in the mind. It reinforces that split. So in a sense of drawing attention to oneself, pride in accomplishments, past accomplishments and so forth, pride in physique, pride in the way one looks, pride in one's country, pride in one's sports teams, pride in one's family. You know, a lot of things in the world are considered very good. Talk about spiritual pride. Well, spiritual pride in a sense would be taking the pride in what one knows in the sense of turning the spiritual journey kind of into a book-learning feat or into a display of abilities that still underneath that there's a motive to draw attention to the small self, to draw attention to the personhood. This is a very subtle trap that we could talk about with a lot of people who have worked at letting go their belief in separation in the mind and so forth, and psychic abilities begin to rise, telepathy, or levitation, or so on, psychokinesis, different types of seeming powers. But the mind then latching on to that with a kind of look at me, look what I can do, and the eye is still the little eye, the eye is still the personal eye. We could have it in a sense of becoming a lecturer or a workshop leader or a healer being coming known as a healer. When that gets personified, when the mind identifies with the person as being the focal point of that, that I'm the healer, then in a sense it's still trying to draw attention to itself. It's not doing, as Jesus did, pointing to heaven, saying it's the Father, it's not I, but the Father is not I to speak, but the Father who speaks. It's not I to them the source of healing, but let the Father in heaven. He always was pointing to the Father, always taking the second place, always I'm the creation, the Father is the Creator, and this is the sense of true humility of a mind that knows what it is. It knows what its source is, and it isn't taken over the kingpin role at being the center of the universe.