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could be here and I could do the right right so we'll do it about 10 to 9 yeah what time you got to give away 10 grand done I haven't been told yet I think it's after 11 yeah probably yeah so that's exciting Friday isn't it yeah I was do you want me to stay around to help you no you're okay I love other people I wouldn't want to keep you out of bed no no you're right do you think I would have been after this I've got a real work to do all right okay good luck all right that's what today's Tuesday that's ages away all right then I've forgotten everything we've just talked about yeah okay remind me would you okay it is the 9 till noon show at 9 o'clock let's get a news update Donald Kavanaugh thank you Greg good morning a woman's been charged in connection with the discovery of a body of Shleeve League in Donegal the remains of a man in his 60s were found at the Sea Cliffs after an alleged assault between June 24th and 25th it followed a series of searches around Shleeve League and also in the vicinity of Kelly Beggs Gordy say a woman in her 20s who was arrested yesterday will appear before a special sitting of Letter County District Court this morning a man in his 30s was charged in connection with the incident last month Gordy say they're concerned for the welfare of a 15 year old boy who's been missing from the burnt foot area for a week Stephen Boyle was last seen on Tuesday last August 22nd he described as being approximately 5 feet 6 inches in height of medium build with fair reddish hair and blue eyes and with information is asked to contact Gordy one of Letter County's busiest stretches of road will close for the next four nights to facilitate road resurfacing the 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. closures are being implemented on part of the Remelton Road with more here's Lucy Peoples Donegal County Council says due to road surfacing works the R229 Remelton Road and Letter Kenny will be closed between the station roundabout and the Oatfield roundabout between 7 p.m. and 7 a.m. from tonight until Friday night Saturday morning meanwhile the Remelton Road between the Oatfield roundabout and the Ballet Rain roundabout will be limited to access only for the same time periods with traffic diversions in place the bus stop will be temporarily relocated to the front of Glen Eni House on the Port Road with Donegal County Council apologising for any inconvenience these measures may cause the Irish Farmers Association says a tweet from the EPA has caused huge rage among farmers the social media post urged people to reduce their consumption of red meat and instead eat veg to be healthier wealthier and more fabulous it was later deleted after the IFA asked them to remove it the organizations are due to hold a meeting to discuss the situation the IFA president is Tim Cullinan I mean that is wrong and I think we are entitled they are at the end of the day the EPA like every other organization are funded by tax fairs money and I think absolutely I or anybody within the 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Hello good morning to you four minutes past nine on this Tuesday it's the 29th of August 2023 another batch of you young ones heading out to school today to get a laugh at Lee's comment about the Robbie Williams song come on come on come on come on that is literally the way it would be like isn't it anyway listen it's great to have you all on board thank you so much for choosing the 9 till noon show this Tuesday morning stay tuned we've got a really interesting show community guard information coming up for you after 10 and so much more besides and we want you involved in the conversation as well if you've never texted a radio show or had your opinion publicly why not make it for the first time today 086 60 25000 0035386 60 25000 if you're listening to us in Derry Tarone or outside of the Republic you can give us a call 07491 25000 again 003537491 25000 and you know what with all those numbers maybe it's easier to email comments at highlandradio.com so we've got plenty of conversation 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place on the last weekend of August a simple post on a taste of Donegal's Facebook page last week confirmed at what had been expected locally it reads a taste of Donegal Food Festival is not taking place in 2023 thanks to all those who have supported us over the years the festival last ran in 2019 and was a huge success with the tents packed throughout the few the three days on to the national side the Irish Times this morning tells us that travellers in Ireland suffer a disproportionate burden of physical health conditions when compared with the general population a study has found common conditions such as metabolic syndrome asthma bronchitis and tuberculosis are two to three times more prevalent in travellers than among the general Irish population according to the findings of Trinity College Dublin research which were published in the journal BMG or BMJ open yesterday the study states that among travellers aged under 65 there is a higher rate of intentional injuries those caused by self-harm or violence perpetrated by another person and a lower rate of unintentional injuries this trend was linked to a mental health crisis among travellers with the suicide rate six times higher than that of the general population so this is a study confirming what we've talked about regularly on this program so it's not going to be any news to those who have been advocating the true intentional injury rates may in fact be higher as travellers may not present themselves to care settings for minor injuries and maybe more inclined to self-treat or present late for care the researchers said travellers aged over 65 at higher rates of injury compared with the general population on to the Irish independent now and speculation continues as to what impact changes to electoral electoral boundaries might have we'll know tomorrow morning Phenon Sheehan writes that it's the biggest redraw of the electoral map in several decades and will affect every part of the country tomorrow the shape of the constituencies for the next general election will be revealed Ireland's rapidly growing population means will be getting at least 11 more TDs and anything up to 21 the figures will probably be on the lower end of the scale every county will be affected by the changes and the ripple effect of alterations TDs will be waiting to see the effects of their patch or on their patch and the map will also herald the start of the general election campaign proper game on he says well what do they suggest or speculate as it relates to County Donegal when Donegal was merged two elections back Sinn Fein over edge the pudding ran three candidates and poor McLaughlin lost the last seat independent Thomas Pringle now prospective finance minister Pierce Doherty and the re-elected McLaughlin have the chance to go from that climate he to taking four seats from six if the country is divided into again so what he's speculating what the paper speculating that even Donegal were returned to two three-seaters that Sinn Fein could return four TDs in Donegal do you think that's possible oh wait six sixty twenty five thousand I think it'd be a long shot to be honest with you and I haven't had much chance to consider it but I'm just thinking of candidates wise particularly what in what would be Donegal Southwest anyway we shall see we'll obviously debate and discuss all of that in the not too distant future this is a I was gonna say bizarre but it's a worrying unsettling story from the Irish Daily Mail because apparently three deaths in suicide kit investigation now guard investigating the sale of Canadian suicide kits to buyers in Ireland carry out welfare checks at recipients addresses and found three people had died in April this year Canadian authorities contacted on Godish Yukana to inform them several of the kits have been sold to people in Ireland it's understood at least 12 packs were bought when Gotti visited the addresses the kits have been posted to they discovered three people had died it's understood some of those who bought these kits in Ireland had life-limiting or terminal illnesses Canadian Chief Kenneth Law branded an online poison seller has already been charged with supplying the kits to people across the world as part of an ongoing criminal investigation so in a relatively small population 12 people became aware of and ordered the so-called suicide kits from Canada three people sadly when welfare checks were carried out were found deceased and people most inclined to purchase these kits are those with life-limiting or terminal illnesses is that a story that surprised you listening to reading it I suppose maybe just because the whole idea of it is it's sad and shocking and just came out of the blue to me if you've heard anything about that let us know 08 660 25000 when we covered the story of a teenager who's alleged to have been involved in an attack on tourists getting bail one of you two of you think text in going well that's what's wrong with this country you know people getting bail and I think I said at the time I says well they can only do what they can do do you know what I mean for whatever the crime might be and people have to be presumed innocent and all that kind of stuff well lo and behold a boy of 16 charged with attacking and robbing a group of British tourists has been remanded in custody his bail was revoked after cops told the court they called him in Dublin's temple bar the site of the alleged assaults despite being banned from the that part of the city Sergeant Tom Murphy said officers spotted him in disguise while American football fans celebrated the Notre Dame versus Navy game on Sunday afternoon Garda Derek Burton said the boy legged it and in the process of running knocked over an elderly lady he then ran into an inspector who suffered a dislocated shoulder and will be off work for six weeks the teen solicitor accepted he'd been in temple bar despite being told last week to stay out of the hole of Dublin to there you go so two people are injured now because bail was given this kissgate story is rumbling on Lewis Ruby Alice he is a Spanish soccer chief who has completely through his actions overshadowed Spain's amazing win in the women's World Cup he seems a bit creepy character at times during the game he was seen when he was pleased with what was happening on the pitch he was seen I think when he was pleased he was seen to grab his crotch so you know you can sort of see that where he sees how he expresses himself well anyway Jenny Hermosa then came up to collect their medals what have you and he grabbed her and sure everybody's seen it at this stage he grabbed her and he kissed her on the lips and he put on a very stern defense saying look at I'm you know I'm not standing down I did nothing wrong and on it rumbles and we're going to talk about that a little later on but eventually now everyone in Spanish football wants him out except his poor mom his mother has locked herself in a church and gone on hunger strike over the inhumane witch hunt against her football chief son it comes as I mentioned as Spanish prosecutors opened an initial probe into whether Rubiales kiss with Jenny Hermosa after the women's World Cup final victory amounts to sexual assault I think they need to be careful here that's the reaction to it is proportionate so as it doesn't actually do damage to any campaigns what have you I'm not saying it's not but I think they need to be a little bit careful the football Federation's chief's mother a retired hairdresser Angeliz Behar entered the church yesterday morning with a sister to begin the protest it was not clear whether the police would be called to resolve the situation the Divina pastora church is in the Anadusia coastal resort of Montreal where suspended Rubiales grew up so I don't know how long he's going to persist with that Elon Burke is back at school believe it or not sacked Enoch Burke began the new academic years he finished the last attending the school he used to work at the Evangelic Christian continued to continue to work at the Catholic Church he continued to work in contempt of court following the near free month summer break breaching a high court order by returning to the grounds of Wilson secondary school in West me that means his contempt fines which are 700 euro every day he ignores the order and now nearing an estimated 150,000 euro Burke who traveled from his home town of Castle Bar Cantomeo turned up before 9am and until 4pm the guardie were not notified by the school 150 grand is in the hole for now and back to sport Vera Pau's fate will be decided at a board meeting of the FAI tonight almost 12 months to the day since a 1-0 win over Finland that guaranteed Arlands place in the World Cup playoffs it is widely expected that the Association's 11 strong board which has viewed director football for the first time in the world will decide not to award the Dutch woman a new contract now I don't think really they are saying this is off the back of review of the campaign on the pitch you know I think she probably deserves another crack at it does she but I think the fact that she seems to have lost the locker room is not very helpful at all and that is what will seal her fate Pau retains support among the team and the team and the team has been changed at the summit and I think it's going to come down to who's the boss because that really kind of was the conversation that was sparked during the World Cup do you have a view on whether Mrs. Pau should be given another crack at the whip let us know 08 6 60 25,000 the Newspapers are courtesy of Kelly Centra mountaintop letter for the first time ever offering low-rate car loans with fast approval apply online at lettercannycu.ie or in office today dump stores double savers has everything you need for a tasty packed lunch pick up a packet of ham just two Euro 99 perfect in a tortilla wrap eight for only one Euro 19 with a side 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Donegal County Council has prepared a proposed material alterations to the draft letter Kenny plan and local transport plan 2023 to 20 29 for public inspection public consultation runs from Friday 11th of August to Friday 8th 15. pilot radio time checks with Expressway travel Route 32 from Leetic, Enid, when you book online and travel for less expressway bring in you the time okay to 18 minutes pass 9 now the national heads of Spanish footballです have become the latest group to call for the resignation of Louis gotten his role as President of the Spanish Football Federation ruby allies who is head and kissing player Jenny Harmosa following their World Cup victory in Australia on the 20th of August and now the regional presidents have asked for Rubielus to be immediately present or to immediately present his resignation as president of the RFEF. Now we also know as we said earlier on his mother now is on hunger strike in a church and we hope that doesn't have any bad outcomes for her. Maureen O'Donnell is a former Donegal player and Republic of Ireland underage international and joins us on the program now. Maureen lovely to have you on the show. Morning Greg, how are you? I am doing fine. Now my initial reaction was ick and then until it kind of blew up I didn't think a great deal of it until then. What was your initial reaction to this man's actions? Yeah well I remember the moment really clearly. I remember watching live and thinking straight after you know that he's going to be in a lot of trouble you know for what just happened. I just knew it instantaneously you know and then after a while I thought to myself maybe they're in a relationship you know I think maybe they know each other a bit better because you know you associate a kiss with that with well I know I do anyway with something that's really personal you know you're sort of in a relationship. I thought then after who do I kiss on the lips you know like you know apart from maybe a partner or somebody in a relationship and then I went back to her body language she didn't seem happy with it at all you know and then you know you go back to this thing like he grabbed her at the back of the head and he really like she had no choice in the matter like what was happening in that moment and obviously she's celebrating the World Cup and this has happened so she's probably thought nothing of it but yeah definitely unacceptable behaviour from somebody in his situation. Yeah and you kind of get the impression that maybe that's the type of guy he is. Yeah well you know there's so much footage out there often now at the minute like and listen the thing about Spanish people is they're very tactile they're very passionate and usually what you get is a kiss on each cheek you know and maybe a hug and this guy is very eccentric you know when you're watching video footage of him as you you mentioned earlier like he grabbed his crotch at one time you know and those sort of things those sort of things that he's doing they're showing his character in a way like like I watched the video footage off that moment and he's surrounded by similar people in his position professionals around him and he's like a jack in the box he's going nuts and he's grabbing his crotch and listen it comes down to professionalism in any job as well you there are underwritten rules you know rules of how you conduct yourself in these areas there's player conduct rules there's professional rules and you know he's just not carrying his out and any sense of the way at all and that seems to be the kind of character he is and then you know when you turn to together and then you see what the mother's at now she's locked herself in a church you know she's setting up a vigil you know so maybe this is the type of upbringing this guy has like but he's in a he's in a he's in a big position within the Spanish Federation and I just think that he should have conducted himself a lot better and you sort of get the feeling that maybe there are those involved in in women's football that are starting to maybe even welcoming the fact that this is pulling the curtain back that this is kind of the stuff that goes on I mean I saw a few TikTok videos of of male coaches and and how they now obviously these are all snapshots and moments in time but you just wonder does it talk to maybe a kind of a bit of a cultural thing because he feels you get the impression that he believes that he's entitled to do that because he's passionate about the sport and he's the big guy and do you know what I mean that's kind of feels it feels very toxic yeah and I mean this is probably something that is going on within sports and look there's a huge amount of underlying issues going on here and and they're bringing a lot of them to the surface now and this just splits second moment you know like you've got equality issues within the sport you've got the balance of power that you see happening between the player and the president of a federation you know we've seen it in America with women working and and going into industrial and big corporations where males are very much at the top and then you've got safety issues as well like you know where players need to feel safe and particularly where you have women's sport involved a lot of the the coaches are men you know and listen we can't categorize men all in the one category here like you know this is a minority and it seems to be popping up over and over again like there there are some fantastic male coaches out there and without those male coaches I don't feel that the women's game would be as far as it is it's excellent now to see the women coming into the forefront and you know them coaching teams and bringing them to high levels but like a lot of people are going to jump on the bandwagon with an issue like this and like the sad thing about it is that it's got completely out of proportion now this guy has taken the this the spotlight off what should have been a very joyous historic moment for the Spanish it really is quite remarkable how this has dominated the headlines now there are going to be people listening who instantly will want to come to his defence and sort of say look he to the moment passionate guy it was just a kiss sure other players or she lifted him up in the air it's that's okay but what eliminates that argument to me is he could have said in the aftermath oh my look we were caught up in the moment I shouldn't have done it was so inappropriate I was just so pleased and so proud of the girls you know the usual stuff and he would have got away with it but he didn't instead he he took a very very strong stance on it never apologised and even threatened to sue the player for for defamation because of the claim she was making and that means for me there's no defence of him any longer even if one was inclined to because there is no remorse no nothing in fact he doubled down on it more than once yeah absolutely 100% think his actions really speak for themselves now and as you say if it had been very apologetic about the whole thing what has happened now is that you've got a player like of her caliber like um maybe afraid to speak out like she spoke out in one video and said that you know she didn't like it shortly after the federation sent out a statement on her behalf then saying that that it was in the heat of the moment and everything was okay you know and we're sort of defending this guy but something really happened there you know in between everything there um in between that video and in between the statement and this goes back to players feeling safe you know our people in any place workplace be it wherever being able to speak up in their defence like she's obviously very passionate about her football she's playing for her country she doesn't want to speak out and this happens within team scenarios where something's going wrong one player speaks up but you don't cut the backing of all other players because they're afraid maybe of losing their place you know she's really speaking up against the president of a huge federation here they're after one in the world cup she wants to stay involved so you know she's afraid maybe then at the same time like but like this kiss happened on the world stage in front of millions of people even you know if this kiss was to happen off-camera would it have been appropriate behaviour well do you know what would be really interesting how this would pan out say for instance there were no cameras there and she uh this happened and she said I'm not comfortable with that and spoke to a newspaper he she would have been destroyed 100 you know there's she would have been destroyed and he would have rated that's the way that that's the way the world is is set up not being woke here and all that listen you have to be honest if it was his word against hers she would have been destroyed yeah and that's that's the bottom line this is what we're trying I think that's the biggest issue here like you know this happened in front of so many people and so many people seen it on this occasion but there are occasions out here where this is happening behind closed doors and as you say the wrong person then you know is is is not being protected and within women's sport particularly where there are male coaches involved in male you know males are associated with the sport primarily you know it really comes down to the safety how safe do I feel in these scenarios and if something didn't go wrong who could I go to you know at the end of the day you feel isolated as a player in that position and I think that's probably the biggest issue here and yeah listen it has been blown way out of proportion now by the Spanish media which is such a shame I think because at the end of the day this should be all about the Spanish players this was a split second thing that happened and now we're two two or two weeks on and we're still talking about that second that happened we're not hearing about the goal we're not hearing about the huge one we're not hearing about the historic occasion and it was really overshadowed the whole event and like at the end of the day Greg what he should have done was resigned straight away take the focus and spotlight off him and put it back where it should have been and probably listen the Spanish media as well I know they're trying to protect players and it's a great thing but all we hear about is the negative aspect of this spectrum now we don't hear anything about the positive nice stay where you are Brian good morning to you morning what's your reaction to it Greg I wouldn't pet your dog without asking never mind slathered over your wife your sister your daughter partner whoever I think it was completely out of hand and also think if he did his reaction afterwards the sort of blaming her was ridiculous mean you you've been looking at her which he wasn't one button press yeah but she says it tells you what could I do yeah because she would have been conscious that the you know she can't push him away in that moment with the world's eyes on her no I would say what was normal that what was not somewhere away from the camera she would have slapped them in the mouth because most women would but no I honestly think that I was addicted I meant to make it worse to blame her you know that's what really annoyed me I'd say I'd be that apologize and said okay would they eat them at that time but they say it was consensual but Jesus sake is wrong because that wasn't consensual all right Brian thank you for that I appreciate your time I mean obviously more in this happens in these situations there's other videos circling and one is of jockey jumping off a horse and the owner of the horse a female going over and pretty much doing the exact same thing but no one said anything right now what do you what what can you say about that I mean if the bottom line is it's yes it is kind of the same but because the gender roles are reversed no one bats an eyelid but it's still wrong it just because society in the media didn't react to it the way they have to this story it doesn't mean that it's okay for him to do that to get where I'm coming from right yeah yeah 100% and you know I have thought about it this way as well you know I thought to myself you know if this was a female president and she was on the world stage and she took one of the players in the same manner and and kissed her on the lips you know it would be an unacceptable as well and this the same like if it was a male player and it was a female president and you know he she kissed him on the lips it's completely inappropriate from the position she's in but not just that it's just an appropriate to go up and kiss somebody in the lips and you know I've really really thought about this how many cultures do kiss people on the lips it's something I can't say it's sexual because it's wrong to say that but it's definitely a very affectionate and passionate thing to do is to kiss somebody on the lips now kissing on the cheek is a totally different thing and you know even hugging from the position he's in even hugging players you know extend the hand congratulations it's a great thing that just happened but you know we all get overcome with emotion Greg we all have had joyous moments where you know you just feel like doing something eccentric but there are boundaries and you control yourself as a person but there are boundaries even if the rules are reversed but it's it's it's I think it actually points to an issue like there's got lots of guys listening to this show had their backside grabbed in a bar right that happened to me it's it's not it's not pleasurable do you know what I mean so it doesn't make it right just because it's a woman doing it do you know what I mean so and and with no disrespect to this to this to this listener I mean this kind of feels a little bit like victim blaming now I'm not saying this woman is a victim in that instance I don't know we'll come out in the wash but to say where was her outrage her anger when she was kissed on the lips why didn't she slap his face or protest instead of walking away smiling to herself but I think you have to imagine the actual scenario and situation and what yeah listen I put it back to if that was me and and I was that player in that position at that moment I'm after one in a world cup I'm about to go on stage to get my medal you know and like let's drip it all back this was a second this was just a one second moment like her reaction wouldn't have been that she's happy she's joyous you know she's moved on to the next congrats there's a person standing next door she's going up to get her medal she's not thinking about doing that unless listen yes you you mentioned it there it's not appropriate for women to grab men and bars it's like I'm not specifically putting them the blame back here to men and men do get a tough time when it comes to it but when you're talking about equality in the world there will always be an imbalance of physical power when it comes to men and it'll always go back to that and men will be able to overpower women in that sense and a lot of the when we go back to a lot of this you talk about sexual assault and stuff like that it comes back to men you know assaulting women but this wasn't a sexual assault but it was an inappropriate act yeah it's disrespectful another call says hi Greg that man that man should not have kissed that girl he was wrong so related in a talent show kiss a young lad following the lips not the same uproar about that just saying now again too and I'm not trying to defend other situations uh and not this one but we also don't know um we also don't know what relationship boundaries have been established so let's say for instance that was a uh in that talent show the the judge was the mentor of that person I've like you again people are entitled to kiss each other on the lips if they wish to uh but as I say you have to the context is is what are the relationship boundaries between the two people because you can get some people are very demonstrative like that and others that reciprocate but then you get others that don't so we you don't we need to know the ins and outs of each particular situation I think before to be able to make fair comparisons yeah 100 we'll go back to this again like I also watched a video of the rivi alleys just outside of bus and there were females around in them and one of the females actually was up and hugging him and very tactile towards him so as you say perhaps this is something that has been going on like he's obviously he's obviously very close to the group this group of players he obviously is as I said a very tactile guy and he's used to this scenario it seems to me like he's very familiar with the scenario where he is hugging players you know and listen as I say he he's there he's in a lot of trouble at the minute because of the actual kiss but as you say maybe he felt like it wasn't all that big a deal it was just a moment of joyous occasion and he just grabbed her and you made that split split second decision Greg and you just overcome with joy and you kissed the person and you knew straight after it was wrong but as you say yes we don't know the relationship that goes on between him and these players is this a thing that's happening all the time yeah and also to you know people go people might think well why are you talking about this for so long I don't think really at this stage the conversation is about that specific moment I think it talks generally maybe towards attitudes and sports that you know there is a glass ceiling or or or that women will always have to endure a certain level of this type of behavior simply because they're women even if they've just won the most prestigious football competition in women's football do you know what I mean so I think the conversation is a bit broader and I think a few coaches will lock on and go right okay maybe for the next season I'm going to change my behavior slightly okay well any views on Vera she looks like she's going to get the bump tonight do you still follow the sucker even having played as an underage international Mori again that that whole thing as well you know Erin got to the World Cup and it was very much tarnished by a lot of the issues that were going on behind the scenes with Vera at the time you know and she's got a lot of bad press and you know it really took it away from the fact that Erin were in the World Cup for the first time which again you know you go back to the media and how they portray things and the media is great if you want publicity and stuff like that but the media sometimes can be very negative in the wrong ways you know we're trying to be very positive about our country and the world well now in fairness I agree with you for the most part but it wasn't the media that had a row with Vera power on the pitch no absolutely I do agree and that was her own captain you know Katie and listen fantastic player but I'd say it was building for a long time Greg what was going on you know and again in a split second you're out there you're frustrated as a player and you know again she should have been more professional probably at the time and then she tweeted something after as well which wasn't really very appropriate but what she tweeted was that she felt silenced you know and I mean maybe this is related to this it goes back to this issue again as well here where a player feels like they can't talk that's something's going wrong you know and that's what you want to try and eliminate within the sport but when they're deciding and there's going to be mixed views on it you know they're talking about it being a review of of the world cup qualification and performance will it really be about that though and and because say for instance it comes down to does she have command of the dressing room going forward well maybe you could end up with a team of players that want to run the dressing room for the next manager coming in or like we don't know the ins and outs of the relationship but there are defined roles there and roles that need to be put in place that it can be very interesting to see at the end of the day if she's not given an extension for what reason is she not given an extension because I don't think it can be off the back of achievement with the team with the national team it will have to be personalities yeah I mean there's so many things to consider there when sorry that's my bell here but there are so many things to consider it's going to go again one time we can actually hear the wonders of zoom it cuts out the audio but I'll not keep you very long just 30 seconds that more and I'll be interesting your views on this yeah listen uh like Vera obviously has come with a lot of package and has got a lot of media media press and media for maybe the wrong reasons with players that she's worked with in the past and obviously she's got this group of players and now and it doesn't seem to be working that well either and I know she brought them to a world cup but you know you probably have got a happy happy camp but the other issue I just want to mention before we go is that when you change the balance of power between coach and players is it acceptable now for players to say run the the and this is what's going to happen players are going to feel like they have more power to speak up and they'll run the show and that's not necessarily what you need to happen in a team you have to have your head coach who says how the team runs and you have to have a level respect for them as well Greg so it's very important so it's going to be interesting to see if Vera stays on my views is I don't think she will probably get to stay on and again it comes back to we may not hear very much about it Greg because there's very little transparency you know when it comes to those things and as you see in all camps they like to keep things hush hush so we might not hear the truth you know about the matter okay it's it's an interesting one as always listen thanks for so much of your time Maureen I really appreciate it Maureen O'Donnell there former Donegal player of course in the GAA and Republic of Ireland under age international watch the show live now on youtube facebook and at highlandradio.com the night until noon show is brought to you by letter Kenny credit union with monster loans available up to 60 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popular procedures include a gastric bypass and gastric sleeve now you will remember we speak we have spoken to consultants locally who've expressed their concerns in this regard saying that much of their workload can end up being aftercare and also dealing with or addressing problems that have emerged after these procedures so we know this is something that the local acute hospital is having to deal with as well in terms of the aftermath of some of these operations. Professor Helen Heanehan is consultant bariatric surgeon at St Vincent's Hospital in Dublin and joins us on the program now Professor good morning to you thanks for your time today good morning Greg thank you for having me yeah I mean obviously people are going to be able to contact the station and say you know I went over there I had this surgery it worked perfectly and it's had the outcomes that I expected to have and that's fine for people that it works for but we can't ignore the fact that there are people dying or having very negative outcomes why is that happening I mean it's disproportionate number to those that might have poor outcomes in in Ireland is it? And again that's an unknown Greg so yes just like your my colleagues in any general hospital who see numerous emergency presentations on a monthly basis and have to deal with the aftermath is that we've seen a three-fold increase since at Vincent's University Hospital in the last three years in the volume of people returning with pretty significant complications they're sick enough to warrant admission to tertiary referral centres such as ours and the problem is we don't know the denominator we don't know how many people are going abroad and as you mentioned earlier are unharmed and and actually have the expected outcome which is a safe procedure with a good weight loss result and good health benefits that's what bariatric surgery should achieve and my impression is though that there is as you mentioned a higher risk of complications in certain parts and of Europe and further field where I'm not sure just of the quality of surgery and healthcare that's being delivered given the types of complications we have seen in the last two years and of course hearing reports that sadly a number of young people have died have not made it back home. Yeah and I just wonder even I remember there was a conversation about this on I think it was on live line last year or the year before and there were people saying that they were disappointed they did it because they didn't they weren't able to eat the food they love anymore um you know which suggests that maybe people aren't you know having a full consultation understanding exactly what's happening what it means to their life you know that's separate of course to sort of emergency situations when they come home but it just made me wonder like what do people think is going on here presumably this is you know it's quite a serious operation anytime that you're put under the knife it's it it carries risk. Absolutely this is major abdominal surgery and it is life changing so it's for life changing for the better when people enter into it and you know they really they know they really need to to do something to lose a significant amount of weight to improve their health and people who embark on um in considering bariatric surgery really have to have considered it for several months I think in Ireland where we deliver these surgeries and through the public system in in Vincent's um through our weight management clinic which is based in Lothganstown we probably you know leave people too long waiting because you know the legacy of underfunding for years is that um or even decades is that people are on waiting lists for years and but it is important that patients have a minimum of about at least six months of assessments with the multidisciplinary team the operation is just a small part of the journey through bariatric surgery and in fact I'd say it's all pretty almost the easiest part the more difficult part is the work by the multidisciplinary team that help prepare patients having already selected out that this patient looks like a good candidate for surgery understands what they're getting into is ready and able to make the important changes needed to live safely and well with bariatric surgery and they understand what follow-up is required and they're committed to that unfortunately when people go abroad the steps before the procedure and after are for the most part missing and in terms of of aftercare I mean presumably with this type of operation there'll always be some level of of check that would be required to people just come back and say by the way I've got the big part of this done in Turkey or wherever it might be now it's over to you guys to make sure you know I continue in good health is and that's quite a burden on the the Irish health system as well of course yeah and unfortunately we can't absorb that at the moment so people are waiting years to get that aftercare you know we obviously will try and absorb as much of that work as possible but it is then displacing people who are on our own waiting list waiting for care so and GPs are inundated with requests from patients to provide the aftercare for for them and that's the that's the instruction of the clinic that most people have gotten when they have their surgeries is to get at this follow-up care back at home but without having consulted with their primary care practitioner in the first instance to see have they the capacity in the means to provide that it's not too onerous it involves blood checks and for nutritional markers after surgery and ideally dietitian visits to make sure someone is eating the right way eating enough healthy nutritious food taking the right supplements which are really important and so but but if that isn't in place there can be really you know important and dreadful consequences nutritionally for patients and they won't get the best result from procedures and and obviously in terms of verbalising for most part we hear is the positive stories yeah you know you know do we need to sort of do an assessment or a review of what exactly is going on how many are going over because it's not just the amount that travel it's then the inconvenience or the displacement of people that are here on waiting lists as well and especially if people are losing their lives or maybe even suffering you know life changing internal injuries who is to say do we need to do an assessment of this like the hsc to sort of so so we get a full grasp of what's going on if there is a problem what the extent of it is how do these figures compared to what's happening in Ireland and so on and so forth professor exactly I think we do and I don't think that'll stop people traveling abroad I think the best thing we could do is provide a safe and accessible service here and we do provide a very safe service and a very effective service but it's not accessible at the moment for without a lengthy wait and I understand why people go abroad these surgery bariatric surgery is the most effective treatment for severe obesity and its complications and for the most part it should be extremely safe to undergo but that's only when it's delivered as part of a multidisciplinary team with preparation and follow-up I think we need to have a registry I do think a registry will be important to try and identify the denominator we can't tell people what centres or units have higher complication rates if we don't know the denominator but I think if we had an idea of how many people were going where they were going and who's doing these surgeries and then we could you know add the complications we see to that registry we would have a much better idea if certain complications were above what's considered a key performance indicator or an accepted level does the risk with every surgery we get complications although we do our absolute best to try and prevent them and the important thing about having a complication is that you identify it quickly and that you manage it afterwards and again my fear is that a lot of people are being sent home with complications and told to present to the emergency department and have to travel really unwell which is quite dangerous. I mean can you imagine a situation and I don't know maybe someone has an insight but that a hospital in one of these foreign countries say actually you know we're gonna have to keep you in for another month we're not very happy with such and such does that happen I can't imagine so because they probably need that bed and of course bariatric surgery is your specialty but it's not just that we've all heard of the the deaths of people going through cosmetic and dental surgeries as well and I think the figure is eight in total if you include those disciplines. Okay so what is your message to someone considering this Helen it's a difficult one isn't it because as you say it's incredibly effective it can be life-changing and there are long waits here but I suppose it's there's a balance to be struck what would you say to someone asking you should I do it? Yeah and again it's like you said Greg it's really hard to tell someone don't do this because I know it's a very effective procedure and for most people you know if they will have a good outcome however I would advise people if they can if they feel their health could allow them to wait and have it done in Ireland absolutely please do that under the guys of our multidisciplinary team and you know and I have to say you know the the waiting list will decrease there has been a significant investment by the Department of Health and the HSE in treatment of all treatments for obesity including diet and lifestyle changes support with that medications and surgery I think they'll take a few years to materialise into lower shorter waiting lists but that will happen and so there has been that investment since last year and if people are still deciding to go abroad I think they really need to look at the they shouldn't assume that same safeguards that we apply to surgical procedures here are automatically in place in other countries so they should do something to find out find out the qualifications like to get to provide bariatric surgery here we have to be on a specialist register have demonstrated we have significant volume and expertise have maintained our continuous professional development so there's a lot of quality markers here and for not just the surgeons but also for hospitals the hospital they're going through should be accredited by an accrediting body such as JCI which would accredit a hospital like St Vincent's University Hospital and that and it reflects certain standards not just in the operating theatre but across the whole hospital so a patient should should expect quality care so I suppose look into the expertise of the unit that the the team that are going to be treating them but also you know they really should ask am I suitable for this procedure that that you know the onus is on the team to help the patient determine that you might meet the criteria in terms of weight and BMI and health but you may still not be suitable for other reasons and you might you know have a higher risk and do you also in the process properly here and I want to lay you much further Professor but presumably before this operation is taken yeah be on undertaken that you you speak to the patient at length I would imagine about how yes you might lose weight but this will change how you you know you absorb stuff what you can eat for the foreseeable future it is it is okay I mean if it's about weight yes of course the weight will come off hopefully but your life does significantly change in terms of what you eat and drink and how you do that yeah and then someone has to be prepared for that and that is not easy it's very difficult for very difficult to make change is to your relationship with food and for some people who have lived with severe obesity for a long time the relationship with food can be very complex and and that requires a significant amount of preparation by a psychologist dietician and as well as the you know medical physician and surgeon to prepare somebody and let them know what to expect because it is permanent for the most part these procedures are irreversible and someone shouldn't enter into it if they decide well if it's you know I don't like this it's reversible and as that undertakes a much more significant risk so someone has to be prepared and then have support in place afterwards they really should have supported their family doing this we've had instances where people come back with complications they haven't told anybody with young people who haven't told their parents told their partners and have tried to just say they were going on holidays and now they're in hospital having a complication treated for over a month really difficult so they really should have support from their families in going away but ultimately know what to expect to be committed to change all right it's very interesting thank you so much for your time this morning that's Professor Helen Heenehan who's a consultant bariatric surgeon at St Vincent's Hospital in Dublin and a call assist Greg I'm one of those people who did this and I wouldn't change a thing I fully checked out the hospital before I did it the aftercare for a doctor is minimal I had to get my bloods done here which I would pay for anyway definitely wouldn't change a thing I eat what I want now just in smaller portions and again you know it wasn't to try and discourage anyone from doing so if they fully research it but not everyone might and maybe after the back of that call people might go right okay I want to do this but I'm gonna check out I'm gonna check out a little bit a little bit more right Greg I have a grandson who's 26 years of age and for the last fortnight he's had an unbelievable toothache he's been told by his own dentist and others that the next availability for an appointment won't be until the end of October he is in extreme pain but they won't seem to take him seriously what is your advice there are are there not um dental practices that take people in like that aren't they I think I had to go to one um a couple of years ago maybe it's changed since then but anyway a person 26 years of age unbelievable toothache for a fortnight um his own dentist can't seem until the end of October what do all right uh that's where we have to leave it on the first hour of the show we're going to take a break now for the news and a bit where you notice this and after that community guard information and so much more besides please stay right where you are we will be right back the 9 till noon show with letter Kenny credit union now offering mortgages from 40 000 to 600 000 euro with no hidden fees or transaction charges letter Kenny credit union 9102127 it's the right price tiles and wood flooring 70 off sale get up to 70 percent off on all your purchases up to 70 percent off all tiles all wood flooring all bathware everything's reduced 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fresher morning across the northwest uh lots of you texting in this morning thank you very much for that and your calls as well we were talking about the on the fire uh football boss in spain after his kiss oh my god get a grip people it is a tradition uh a traditional act cheek to cheek in certain countries okay this was on the lips this was a moment of total excitement and joy for the players i'm sure he regrets it but he's not expressed his regret you see and that's the point i was um that's the point i was trying to make um to mooring that you know maybe if he came out and said that then people go listen it could happen to any of us uh greg where was that bar that you had your backside felt in must pay a visit okay one time not long ago when ringing in the new year people all hugged and kissed each other on the lips and now that's all gone things have changed i don't i think at that time if people come not kissing me on the lips i'd have got a clip around the year to be honest with you um i'm not sure i recall lots of people kissing each other on the lips but as i say it's some time ago since that kind of happened uh one question if it were two men that kissed or two women that kissed after the game would there be as much worried about it well i presume if one of them said hold on yeah you've kissed me on the lips i don't like that there would be i presume uh seems to be an endemic in spanish football this is the kind of behavior the spanish women's football team have been on the receiving end for years here's former coach 27 years ago forced out after an entire squad called uh him to go that's Ignacio Carrera another don't humans get carried away in the emotion let's ban this from now on will you see again the defense wasn't put forward that um this was done in the heat to the moment you see you're offering a defense that he himself hasn't really offered uh if he had come out and said that then i think this would have blown over a long time ago i wonder if the kiss was by a female on a male would it be looked at upon as affection or is it now a salt again i think if we had the prince of princess of spain um grabbing i don't know mixing up my players here louis figa grub by both ears and planting and kissing his lips i think in 2023 still would be seen as somewhat controversial but anyway listen i don't know greg last night i was driving uh the back road uh the sorry the back of erigal road can you count how many deer signs i came across i'll tell you now none when driving a witnessed four groups of deers on the road at half past 10 at night you really had to proceed with extreme caution i just want to know we've heaven forbid you hit one by accident or it caused damage to your car is the cancel at fault for not creating signs now apparently no signs warning of deer on the back of erigal road i was sure i'd spotted them in the past but listen i take your take your views a caller asks is there a day return bus go into the plowing championships 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it but a handbag and a sum of cash was taken from inside the car so our appeal is to any residents of the estate or the surrounding area who may have observed any suspicious activity or persons or may have cctv footage at their home the contact guard at milford guarder station on 07491 53060 or in the guarder confidential line on 1800 treble six treble one and not in any way to attribute blame to the victim of this crime but a reminder for us to make sure our vehicles are locked uh they're not just because they're outside the property this can still be targeted and to not have anything of value in the moron show yes absolutely all right criminal damage being investigated by your colleagues in bonk rana that's right yeah it's garedy mokrana seeking information relation to criminal damage incident at the millfield grove estate uh which occurred on the 26th 27th of august last last saturday night sunday morning so a white sitter on bilingo van was parked outside the owner's residence and they woke to find that the driver's side window was smashed the golf club was found lying next to the van no entries gained to the van and not been stolen we were appealing for any witnesses who may have observed anybody acting especially in the area on these dates especially any taxis that were operating on the side of the night who may have dashcam footage to contact garedy mokrana on 0749320540 now we know last week unfortunately people still are falling victim to uh fraud scams and uh just a reminder of the latest ones that are going around yeah these are some that have come to our attention here recently uh which are either in you or doing the reins again so the first is an email purported be from the dpp's office and has the attachment with the Irish flag your paul and eu logos the email attachment is in the form of a letter as always accusing you of visiting sites in relation to child exploitation and that you're going to be prosecuted for child pornography cyber pornography sex trafficking and viewing photos and videos of sexual nature the letter states you have 72 hours to respond with your version of the fax accompanied by an identity document to fix your level responsibly which could avoid criminal prosecution so one of the emails that they actually respond to is garedy shigana dot slash protection of minors at ministry of justice dash uk dot e which would never be a guard no but unfortunately for most people on the address bar you probably just see goddess shiokana protection of minors yes exactly yeah so we let people know and goddess shiokana in the dpp's office will never send a letter like this to you via email or the post so we actually never send a copy of any identity document to an unknown email that contacts you out of the blue use official sites or emails for any communication and only then if you've typed in the dress as opposed to clicking on a link if you have any doubts please ring your local station and ask for advice yeah and and you can see how people can begin to get caught in this because the first thing you want to do say well i've done nothing like that there here's a picture of my driver's license and make it go away but of course at that point then yes they have you they have you they've your identity okay um e-flow yeah so it's another scam is prominent right now so this is an e-flow submission text so a submission scam which is they use text messages to try and obtain your personal details so in this scam you receive the text that states you've outstanding charges from e-flow which must be paid immediately to avoid prosecution this text will contain a link which when click will take you to a page which looks exactly like the e-flow webpage uh and you're asked to enter your card details scammer will then make charges to your card and bank account so again never click on a link in the text if you believe you have a charge then navigate to the e-flow website by improper and putting the proper link into a search engine okay good advice already noticing in the mornings um the tractors almost have given way to bosses and uh what have you and we're all either those of us uh on the road commuting to and from work or wherever we might be going but also um parents and guardians starting to drop kids off or leave them at buses and all that kind of stuff it's all new for us again because we've had three months in some cases of not having that type of traffic on the road so uh a word of uh advice for uh motorists and pedestrians and parents and and children of schools reopened yeah exactly Greg so this week exactly the summer break we're asking drivers to please be mindful of the fact the schools are reopened so when traveling to slow down in areas where bus collection and drop-offs are occurring and in the general area of the schools themselves uh expect the unexpected and be prepared to stop suddenly and leave additional travel time to with the extra traffic on the roads so ask people please don't park in a legal manner while doing school runs don't block driveways or park and footpaths as this may restrict emergency access or force others to venture right onto the road which could be very dangerous we'd ask the parents to speak to their children about safety on the road and there's some very helpful resources available at www.rsa.a to assist with us yeah and just to remind we all have to share this space and for some be it parents and guardians or their children it's probably the first time they're going through this experience everyone's up to high dough and people can make mistakes stepping out in front of a boss or behind you know what i mean it's just we need to make sure that we get through all this safely while we all find our feet okay brilliant stuff as always uh gada shone sweeney thank you for your time today thanks for that was community gada information for this Tuesday the 29th of august and it'll be available for you to watch back on our web page on our facebook 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caller who contacted a little earlier on wondering where any boss is going up and down so search out those names you can get those you can get those details right so yesterday we were talking to kelly magrory kelly magrory from south donnelly goal lie in fact of course was one of the four women that finished eighth in the world at the world athletics championship but we were speaking to her at the airport if i'm not mistaken and she was talking about back to work today back to normality and celebrations later in the weekend but things didn't quite go to plan therese mcdade his operations team manager at at athletics arland hi therese good morning you're still in Zurich yes we're now we're now in Zurich uh waiting to uh board an airline gets likes to Dublin which has been delayed due to a little service issue but we're hopeful that we'll still get away relatively shortly so yeah we've been around the houses but very glad to be at least seeing another way home and hopefully we'll be there by lunchtime or shortly after today yeah indeed yesterday though obviously everyone full of the joys of spring got to the airport even got on the plane what went wrong then yeah well we were on the end we say our budapest airport was pretty chaotic yesterday obviously all teams were going out and particularly the flight to Dublin was extremely busy because we have the most amazing fans that came from the whole of the country to support the team so we were on the flight or i think close to possibly on the aircraft for about maybe three and a half hours four hours and just getting updates really every maybe 20 30 minutes i think but we had and again from i suppose from a logistical point of view from team arland and the athletes and coaches we had multiple routes we had people that were on the leisure weeks flights back to london with people on our language site back to Dublin with people going to different parts so we were kind of keeping we were getting news maybe before we were getting news from other people almost before the airline was given to us but but in fairness first we're very high everybody was in good form it was the plane was full of athletic people so i think everybody were just enjoying discussing the championships and to be fine the time had been very well so unfortunately then ryan air cancelled the flight and we were basically along with all the other travelers basically stranded and said find your one way home so again with you know with athletes you're always looking at performance so you're keen to get them settled get them fed get them relaxed and then right leave the leave the logistics to us sort of thing like so we brainstormed then and come up with a plan and we had a very hasty exit out to has your class night and got motel and got everybody settled and then we're we're we're back on the road again this morning and hopefully home brilliant and uh you guys were amongst the hundreds of thousands that were affected by a systems failure at britain's national air traffic service which caused the cancellations of just under a hundred flights into and out of dublin airport more than 10 flights scheduled to take off and land in both cork and shannon also fell victim to the uh outage so people's holidays returning and heading out and all were affected they hope that that situation is resolved but there's going to be a hangover it's going to take a couple of days for it to fully work through tereza your reflections now that you've had an extra night in zurek to do so about the uh about ireland's performance in general at at these world championships and you know that i really think that's what kind of really helped us through the whole thing because we've had an absolutely amazing championships and i feel like i've been away from home now since i think it was the seventh maybe because we did a camp first of all before going into championships but my lord we've had the best championship we've ever had to date the most successful um you know i'm so close my lord we're mighty to think that you know country like ireland were so close to two world medals that's just on rail and irish records glores um para standards um really really delighted with the team and yeah so that's that's certainly helped all of yesterday without a doubt yeah because it doesn't happen uh overnight um these things happen very very slowly and then very quickly everything had to be built up to get to this point so it must be great from a planning perspective to see the athletes you know maturing um and picking up good times and it's it's really to the future now you're looking to keep this momentum going for the next majors yeah and exactly and you know we're one year out now from paris from the next love the game um to be in and that sort of um state now to have people on the edge of a medal and you're looking at the next step and you know we're very much keen that our athletes will make that step and hopefully make that next step onto the podium in the next championship and again so many and i am doing a little bit of work around paris and trickle on camp and you know it's just it's just amazing to think that we're having so many people and we're going to have standards are extremely high higher than they've ever been before but yet we're still having bigger teams and and more athletes progressing and so yeah all credit to athletes and their coaches and of course to the to the system that provides and source the support system that's provided to help them achieve what they want to do yeah success breed success and success is addictive isn't it and you could hear in kelly's voice yesterday uh yes it's heading in tough season but she's already gone right i want this and more uh and when you're talking about elite athletes it's every point of a percentage and as i say that success and knowing what that feels like that can be the extra point four of a second or something isn't it that gets you on that podium yeah and that success i think too it's certainly it's the confidence and the belief that they know and particularly the four by four girls you know they were sort of you know it was already that that you know they were going to be all they'll be grand but all of a sudden they made it world final and the fact again too that they went out to kelly and the girls all went out again and did it second time i just can't wait they're all going to have massive pvs and the indoors and outdoors next year in their own individual events because they'll just have that belief that actually yeah maybe i can really do this and i don't know if a lot of people caught um kieran again who's who's one of our our heroes and athletics that an amazing piece around you know she talks about i'm just a young girl from port of ferry and we're all just somebody from somewhere but yet it's amazing what can be done and what can be achieved and it's a great inspiration for everybody else and certainly everybody coming coming behind those people yeah and i would love to see a slight change in how we cover these events in irish media because if you look at how the british and the spanish and the french do it they do it in a very different way where we're almost like the note here was like we're devastated because we just missed out or we just missed off in the podium or you know like uh not celebrating as well it was not too bad that the eighth finish in the world we're a tiny little country finishing eighth in the entire whole world i think people when they interview the athletes they're almost like oh i'm so sorry for you but we need to actually put everything into context and to context and celebrate what we are achieving here you know no one's dead like this is all brilliant stuff yeah and i think that's part of thing we've got to believe we know we now belong here and we've we've really had you know even our mix four by four this is our fourth global final you know we're we're now in the mix other countries are looking at what Ireland are doing and i think that's a that's absolutely we need to believe that that and that will come away even at sixth place for the for the mix really like that's another step on again from from last time and yeah so i think as you say we are a very small country but we're very good at function of over with uh yeah and it takes a whole team effort be it uh i presume aim and harvey uh had some role in in in kelly's development given what he's given to athletics over the years our patsy mcgonagles the likes of you tereza and others you know uh that that's that harness and support and and bring this talent through um it's it's not just the athletes as well it's the support structure and people like yourself thank you so much for your time safe journey home albeit a day late tereza no take care of yourself all right that's tereza mcdade operations team manager at at athletics arland 08 6 60 25 000 is the whatsapp and text number or give us a call on 07 491 25 000 okay is this marty joining me is it marty or matty good morning it's marty and good morning pardon it's joined up writing and i'm not really good at it okay um right what was your experience recently on thursday i believe it was yeah on thursday um the 24th of august um myself and my husband and my two um children i had a three month old and a three-year-old went to lettuce any town park um we go to the park a lot we normally go to the play area there but this thursday we had taken our skitter and the three-year-old was really excited to try the new skate park so we went to the skate park um the skate park is sort of down the back on the left hand side for anybody who's not aware um and we were there when we arrived at um there was a few people about you know there was a woman there that we knew quite well with her three children another few adults another couple of adults and another few children and so there's a small enough grip there but there was there was people there um so our three-year-old was happy out then getting to grips with skittin about this skate at the skate park and um we were just busy sort of watching her chatting to the lady we knew we weren't really you know we were just kind of chilling out at the both and then after a while um i got a bit quieter it was quite showery that day but i got a bit quieter and we both noticed myself and my husband this man come in the main entrance of the skate park and he went out towards the united nation sort of memorial garden then and he stood out to both of us you know we didn't say anything at the time but we just sort of um i edged closer to the my three month old in the prom and my husband edged closer to my three-year-old so it was just it was just it was just kind of an instinct thing yeah we just kind of knew you know he looked a wee bit unkempt we'll not get into specifics about that so we both kind of thought he looks a bit you know we never even said anything to one another but just naturally we did this so um then we were there for another very while about 10 minutes later then it was just us left from the play park so again my husband me um and my two kids and i said uh my husband kind of quietly you know i didn't want to draw attention to it with the three-year-old i wanted a bit of peace probably i said i'm going up for a wee walk you know um so i said it really quietly because i didn't want my three-year-old to hear i was hoping to just veer off and have a little bit of peace and leave her when she was happy out so that's what i did so i it was i was very quietly talking to him and saying that so nobody else would have heard it i was being really discreet so she wouldn't hear and then literally i just veered off with the pram and towards the united united nations memorial garden and that's when this man sort of jumped to the height of himself and um he started to adjust the front of his trousers and he scarred pretty quickly literally like he he couldn't have walked fast enough and it was a man that we had seen about 10 minutes earlier that we had both noticed um and i know exactly what he was doing you know there was no reason for him to be there other than he was um pleasuring himself at the boats for want of a better way to describe it was was was he was he watching or yes he would have been watching yeah he would have been watching them he was just kind of standing behind the wall there was no reason for this man to be there you know that wouldn't that wouldn't be that wouldn't be the right thing to do if he came in no no if he came in there is toilets at the start of the letter condition park for everybody knows it but then the other thing is Greg if he was actually using the bathroom where he was you know if he wanted he could have went anywhere else around there and he would have been so discreet this wasn't using the bathroom this was giving him access to the skate park yeah i'll get you okay you know and he wasn't expecting me to leave the skate park that suddenly so i literally caught him you know um definitely not he wasn't urinating because um as i said there was a lot of better places where he could have done that really close to where he actually was yeah and it's funny how i had the red flags went up a little earlier the instincts kick in there yeah yeah you reported it to the reported it to the guard you see before we got to get to that i mean used with our both adults were there um that's not always going to be the case obviously you know for for older children it might seem like a safe place it's very very creepy it's very worrying isn't it because one thing we've learned with people who who would do this type of thing is it can escalate as well or you know what i mean it's not necessarily just a once off so it is no it's pretty worrying yeah matty yeah he um i turned obviously went straight back to my husband right away and we're literally talking just feet away from my husband's stall you know it's very close we're all it's very close this area and um i said oh my god i've just seen this and i started to tell him and two young girls came around and i said oh my god was there were two parents but literally just a second later the mother of these two girls came around and it's the lady we actually knew so we started to tell her but robert went looking for the man you know he just wanted to see what the crack was and the man was long gone we're talking still seconds this man knew the park well i would say to be gone so quickly you know and i know like i'm not trying to amplify this i'm just put myself in this position it's violating that you know you know um there's children there if he was doing what you strongly suspect he was doing it's very very concerning it's very worrying and it's dirty and it feels dirty in other words he was watching on yeah he was watching on you know so we had noticed him yeah well he was definitely there you know there was no reason for him to be there it was about him and it's earlier when we had both of us from walk past so he had um he shouldn't have been there you know his natural walk and would have took him a good bit away from where he actually was at that stage there was no reason for him to be there at all and he wasn't urinating because he could have urinated somewhere else a lot more discreetly and i just knew right away and i knew by and kind of his face what he was doing as well you know i just kind of knew right away what i had caught yeah yeah i know and i know and i appreciate you being really careful with the language uh but it's obvious from the various things you've said you knew exactly what was going on um so you contact the guard station at this point the person's left the scene uh did you feel heard yeah um marty the take it you know i did i um spoke to i rang letter kenny guard station direct and i was speaking to a man on another side of the phone and um i told him what happened and i knew he knew what i was telling him and he believed me and he said he was going to send a patrol car down but i was pretty honest with him and said you know i don't think there's any point that's not gone you know he's gone there's no way he's hanging around the park now for them to come around the patrol car and he was caught um and it's not really about you know seeing him on cctv or anything like that um yeah it would be better if there was more cctv that you could catch things like that more easily but um it's more about i just wanted to let people know that this happened and um draw attention to it and just make people aware you know you need to keep a really really close eye on your kids because i had my eyes opened i you don't know who else is keeping an eye on your kids it's unbelievable it is unbelievable and it's not that long ago actually last week or the week before in west on the gall there was someone uh a person a man at the same crack on a beach um yes i know what you're talking about there too actually um it's definitely you know and a couple of people have been in touch with me on private message and they've kind of said some of their things to me you know and um there's a couple of people who asked for a description and i i don't feel that i should give a description of this person because my description yeah there was slight things that made them look a bit unkempt but really it would be very generic and i don't want some per man to be walking around the park and people looking at him going oh i wonder if that's the man that the lady talks about in the radio but um it's really more just to tell parents or any guardians or anybody out in the park with small children to keep a really close eye on them because i think i could be even about complacent sometimes in certain places where i take my daughter um i'm so used to it that maybe i'm too but they talking to my friends that i i think oh she's just there she knows this place she knows this place but so do some of the people who are a bit dodgy yeah yeah you know and i really i just keep a close eye on them all the time and then we have to be really careful too don't we that we don't want to we don't want to overcrowd them either and and inhibit their sense of adventure and stuff it's striking the right balance it's the complication of parenthood isn't it you don't want them to be afraid of every stranger but you want to tool them up and equip them so they they they are as safe as possible and that's the the tough line as parents we have to walk isn't it yeah all right and yeah and i the other thing i just do want to point out is um you know what's the price of everything at the moment i don't want to put anybody off there can i turn the park it's so well maintained it's really well looked after um the skate park is a fabulous year that she might be a year old isn't aware of this incident at all so she just wants to go back with her scooter and she will be back there um so i don't want to put anybody off there because it could have happened anywhere but that is the thing that this i got my eyes opened and this happens you know i did catch this man doing this so we just need to be still careful right and i think you've been really really balanced and careful in in how you've put the info out there as well so fair play to you because it could have gone another way uh but i think it's really constructive uh constructive advice and and i think if anyone spots anything uh obviously you can't report everyone that looks a bit suspicious but to keep your eyes peeled and get the phone out straight away and call the guard if you see anything all right thanks so much for your time and uh as i say it's not pleasant it's very unpleasant and we appreciate your help and us get the information out there okay that is uh massive there 08 660 25 000 is the whatsapp and text number greg a point of interest the highest energy prices of all EU countries is arland and the lowest oap pension in almost all EU countries is arland that's coming in from mary there uh john joe boys uh boys tours runs bosses to the championships and all other events brilliant service all right great to hear hi greg ye the media are all over how inappropriate the kiss was maybe you should look at the control of the books they're pushing and four-year-olds of age and upwards with your aunt is concerned about the children what a ridiculous thing to come out with well here's the thing i've actually gone through the new curriculum from start to end from baby infants to sixth class and i wonder have you uh and if you have hands up i'll say all right fair play that's your interpretation of it but i've actually gone through uh it all what's being taught at what age how it's being taught what images are being used what language is being used i've gone through it all uh and we're going to be talking about that a little later on but we're very close here to the typical uh uh comment that if you're not constantly always talking about this that in some way you're a groomer or a pedo that's kind of i'm not saying that's what the text is saying but it's not it's not a million miles away either i don't know what that achieves it i think it's crazy but anyway thanks for your text um finally before the break here hi greg paul and jimmy said to text you who stole the piece of cake well i don't know i think this is something going on on social media about this i didn't quite see it i am innocent i've got no hand act all part in cake gate and i came in here this morning and there wasn't a crumb of cake and the only boys i see stuff in cake and sweets into them are jimmy and paul so um i think it's a bit of deflection going on here i think they've done it themselves but as i say i'm not fully across cake gate but all i know is i'm completely innocent to await six sixty twenty five thousand if you can get to the bottom of that the night all noon show is brought to you by letterkenny credit 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the new way to save at macklehenny's okay you're very welcome back to the program we're joined by a couple of guests now they are where are we here uh they are aid and freel co-owner of narrow quarter at kerry keel he's in studio with us good morning to you thank you so much for calling up are you great thanks for having me and also on the program is paul diva chair of the donningall irish hotels federation branch are you getting on paul morning reg morning it's great to have you with us okay right it seems now that um it's inevitable that the uh that rate is going to increase from nine percent to thirteen and a half percent now i don't want to cause any disagreement between you guys but i'm going to ask the obvious question first adan are you happy to be talking about this with hotels uh because there are calls from the restaurant association that this needs to be decoupled a little bit because there are some maybe issues with some hotels and maybe they're getting wrapped for price gouging or whatever it might be and then we have restaurants which are competing in a very tough market they can't gouge because if they do they're out of business uh but they're being lumped in with hairdressers and hotels yeah i mean as i say i'm not trying to cause any disagreement but are you of the mind that maybe there should be two separate conversations well i think there needs to be really robust discussion about that in general within the entire industry i've spoke to a lot of hoteliers in the last few weeks and the general consensus seems to be that everyone is quite happy to to have an open discussion about possibly dividing the vat rates and to accommodation and food okay paul i'm not sure what the listeners think they'll let us know but hotels at the moment in this country haven't got a fantastic rep rep in terms of you know as i say price is going up when big events are on you know maybe some of them just option opting to to house refugees and the impact that can have on on surrounding businesses i wonder what level of public sympathy there is for hotels in their battle to retain the nine percent yeah i think there's there's nearly two different industries greg hotels and cities can charge whatever they want they have the demand hotels in rural ireland and the majority of them are all family owned and they certainly can't go increase in prices like that they just somebody wouldn't get away with it so i think yes the conversation has has to be had and maybe about city versus rural ireland and also you know i think it's a given at this stage that the battery is going to go up on on the accommodation i'd still be hopeful you know that the government might listen to us and might take heed of the amount of job losses that there would be if they put the the back up on on food as well there are great challenges already for some it hasn't been the best tourism season for others you know they might have to close to cut costs up because of staff i mean what's your overview of the donningall hotel industry through the summer and coming out of it of 2023 and it wasn't a great summer we don't know what what the weather was like and but there are a lot of positives you know the wider Atlantic way is still doing it's bringing a lot of domestic visitors to donningall and that's working very well every every business in the county has the same challenges i mean here in the sandhouse our electricity bill is three times what it was three years ago and that's just not sustainable speaking just to hotels over the last couple of weeks and restaurants indeed and pubs and a lot of them i are certainly going to close monday's and tuesday's a lot of them are going to reduce the food offerings that they're going to do for us here in the sandhouse if the battery goes back up on food we'd probably have to stop doing sunday lunch because we're just not able to offer value for money with what we'll have to charge but then to the day it's the consumer that's going to charge because businesses just can't afford to cushion any more of these costs it's going to have to pass down to the consumer that's making us you know a very very expensive industry i suppose the one thing here in donningall is we've always got credit for value for money and that's right across restaurants pubs hotels every single thing and that's very hard to get and once you have a name for that you know we don't want to lose it so that's why a lot of hotels is to say they're a family owned they've tried to absorb as much of the costs of the can to try and keep that value for money and tag here in donningall adan from your perspective i've talked on this program over the years about tipping points and i think all of us in our head like i have a i have a sort of price in my head that launch right and i have a price in my head for a main course and either a starter or a dessert or even you know if it's my birthday or three we're getting to the point now where it's like one local place that i would say you can see this a 50 increase across the board just for sort of like a bacon sandwich or breakfast or that type of stuff what has the last five years in business been like for for you guys at the narrow quarter because of course in the middle of all that was was covid well yeah well i think just even touched on your first point that there is a maximum limit to what people are willing to pay and what you can charge just from eating out myself i actually i'm starting to feel that we're we're nearly at that point so to put an extra five percent on top of that is really really going to hamper people's it's going to have our people's ability to eat out and make it really will change the decisions yeah and it's how often they eat out as well yeah and people's patterns change don't they absolutely um your second point then about covid and everything we had five years of business and made covid in between it and we've actually already experienced a 13 and a half percent vat in 2019 when it was introduced um we tried to keep ourselves obviously because we were in new business as competitive as possible and for the first two months period we tried to soak up as much of that increase as we could and we very quickly realized that we were going to run out of just cash flow was going to disappear so from our perspective it just can't be soaked up it's going to have to be passed on to our customers which is really really unfortunate but that's a catch 22 because then will the customers come through the door this is the problem you see we're faced with but there's just there is not enough disposable income in people's pockets to actually come through the door if this is put put on top of them and by this by the sounds of local politicians and tts it is going ahead and there's going to be no turnaround on it because i spoke to a few of them yeah um so in terms of the increased costs i would say if you look at your bills in 2019 you know be the the the the materials that you create your beautiful food with uh particularly power maybe to some extent wage costs so or what have you i mean i would say if you held those two up and looked at one and the other you'd look at this today's what i wonder well how actually am i still in business because there's been so much of an increase so if it's three and four four thinking electricity was up something like 60 percent um gas is up heat noil is up everything increases and as you say then just the raw raw ingredients to actually produce dishes and food um even your listeners or anyone that's not in business will have definitely felt it from a domestic point of view as well of course you multiply the extra 30 quid at the till and then do that on a commercial basis you know so it's an industry where margins are already really tight and now the state's going to even make it tighter yeah and also too um there's going to be staffing issues because we are at full employment in this country at the moment um so whilst dealing with that it's getting the staff to actually be able to open the doors as well of course and we were nearly facing a position there just in the last few weeks where we're going to have to maybe contemplate closing down for a day or reducing hours because we were losing some staff for the summer season and it's really really hard to actually get workers at the moment um yeah it must be very frustrating and particularly in the restaurant sector that there's a lot of history going on the background and listen that's not just the vet but as was that's the one that's just outstanding to the forefront of remains at the moment but it is it must feel like an extra level through very very difficult times already i mean paul could you do you think hotels uh because i suppose of course hotels have to compete with restaurants and vice versa do you think um it would it would be palatable for the vat increase on the accommodation if the food was left alone we'd certainly take that at this stage um you know as i say i think it's a given that the accommodation is going to go up and you know you can't really question some of the politicians you know especially in some of the hotels in dublin you know there was a small number of of investor owned hotels and they don't care about prices you know they're they're not meeting the customer you know that they're not dealing face to face uh you know so and yes definitely we would we would take the the hit on the accommodation if the food was to be left alone but it's you know it is a very very worrying time you know traditionally here in donnie gall we would build up enough cash flow in july august and and september to get you through the winter with the the the costs hotels and restaurants and businesses just haven't had that you know they haven't been able to build up the cash and the cash reserve this year so it's going to be a very very difficult winter ahead you know i would just appeal to to the government at you know this late stage even just um you know hold hold the the bad rate on on the food because it's going to have a detrimental effect on on violence it's a bit frustrating oh paul in that you know we have representatives from rural arland you know living and and working in the dull in dublin that they they don't go you know this is unfair because you know the people i represent in the northwest this is what they're offering this is how they do their business they should not be punished because all the i mean there's people having room cancelled because a concert comes on in dublin then that room re-advertised it's crazy those people should be punished you don't punish the people that do well in any business because that rewards those who that rewards those who don't do well do you know what i mean and that can be in a company of five people you do not reward the people that are bad because it breaks the heart of those that are trying to operate fairly uh but why can't they look at a solution that like even a levy that says right dublin hotels or wherever you are enough is enough you don't punish a hotel struggling in in in donningall yeah but unfortunately that's the way it's been for the last 20 or 30 or 40 years you know there's two different tourism economies the one in in all of the cities is is booming rural Ireland you know we're employing people in every corner of the of the county but we're not getting recognized for that and as Aidan said it's a very low margin uh industry very high labor costs and but certainly it is unfair when you look at the demand there is in dublin and limerick and golly certain that demand isn't here in in rural Ireland no um back in 2022 i think just after just post-covid a lot of elected representatives actually stood up and tired us all with the one brush that the entire there's no nuance in the conversation like i don't hear any or maybe i haven't heard it but people really advocating on your behalf i mean the restaurant association of Ireland tweet a lot and they're on news talk now and again but i'm not really there hasn't been a real vocal discussion about it no there hasn't but as i was saying they definitely there was elected representatives stood up and tired the entire hospitality industry with the one brush that we were all priced incredibly frustrated which is actually really unfair um nobody's stood up yet and accused the electricity companies of price gouge and their vat rate was also reduced back down to nine percent and they never passed any of the savings on to the customers and they're turning billions of euros a profit whereas we were left in a position where the vat race was vat rate was reduced but because everything else had risen so rapidly around you electricity wages food costs you couldn't physically pass it on so i don't know what's going to happen now whenever they further increase it it's hard to see the logic in all of this because you know maybe they will get their tax take back up paul and if a few rural hotels and restaurants have to close so be it so be it that seems to be the attitude yeah that seems to be the attitude which is grossly unfair and as i say you know the tourism industry in dunny goll is one of the most important industries here in dunny goll and you know it's not just the towns like that are canny or dunny goll town you know those people employed in the tourism industry in every corner you know from ironmore and to man on head to sleeve league you know it's it really spreads and bound right along the whole country or the whole county and you know a lot of people that work in the tourism industry are at college you know they're coming home on weekends to get a few hours work and that's their pocket money then for the week in college and you know that's that's going to be affected as well because hotels and restaurants you know if they cut back that's that's less hours for staff as well yeah and adan what happens to though is it spreads because if the people that are squeezed stop going out to eat even those then who have money don't go out to eat because they don't want to sit in an empty restaurant and you know so what you happen is what happens then is people with money and we saw this in the recession there was plenty of people as tough as things were could go out and spend money but they didn't because they get cautious they hold on to it and there's no one else out and that's absolutely is a severe knock on effect all right i just wish someone would would listen to you and i wish common sense would prevail but unfortunately it just doesn't seem to at times and we seem we're heading towards a we're in a fator complete situation paul for now thank you very much indeed i do appreciate your time all right paul diva there who is chair of the donna goll Irish hotels federation branch and adan listen i hope to say even if it's a decoupling situation where it's recognised that yours is a different operating model because like i know towns where restaurants are trying to complete with hotel restaurants yeah and they can sort of lose on the swings and gained on the roundabouts so as i'm not trying to pitch you against paul but you know restaurants have a particularly difficult time in in certain areas as well but for now uh i hope everything continues well for you adan and um some sense is seen and you continue to uh keep doing what you're doing at the narrow quarter in Kerry keel yep that's us all right okay great stuff back with more after the break the night on noon show is brought to you by letterkenny credit union with monster loans available up to 60 000 euro for all occasions visit letterkennycu.ie green shoes big summer sale is both in store and online now with up to 50 off men's women's and children's footwear get great savings in the biggest names in footwear including riker sketchers and tamaras also echo heavenly feet una hilly and many more shoes boots sandals and trainers bag a 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currently attending the scene of a road traffic collision at kararea bridge end just off the derri letter kennie road the road is currently closed with local diversions in place garthy say no further information is available at this time a woman's been charged in connection with the discovery of a body off schlieff league in donigall the remains of a man in the 60s were found at the sea cliffs after an alleged assault between june 24th and 25th it follows a series of searches around schlieff league and in the vicinity of gillie begs garthy say a woman in her 20s who was arrested yesterday will appear before a special sitting of letter kennie district court this morning a man in his 30s was charged last month one of the kennie's busiest stretches of road will close for the next four nights to facilitate road resurfacing the 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. closures are being implemented on the remelton road between station roundabout and outfield roundabout from tonight until friday night the bus stop on remelton road will move temporarily to the front of the nilly house on port road during the closures garthy and west donigall repeating for information about a theft from a car in burton port in the early hours of last friday at around half past midnight a handbag with cash inside was taken from the car it was parked in the driveway of a home in the encuella state it seems the car was unlocked garthy and bonkronamine while our second information about a criminal damage incident in which a white citroen burlingo van had its window broken outside a house on saturday night or sunday morning and the Irish farmers association says a tweet from the epa that caused huge rage among farmers needs to be discussed the social media post urged people to reduce their consumption of red meat and instead eat veg to be healthier wealthier and more fabulous it was later deleted after the ifa asked them to remove it the two organisations are now to have a meeting to discuss the tweet and who 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caught short always doing a rude act while watching the children play it really puts me off going to the park with the kids we we head towards uh the beach now a caller says we had a similar experience the guy was just uh staring or sorry it was just starting standing i beg your pardon he was just standing in uh the united nation's guarding fixing himself we thought he was off so we turned all the kids and walked in the other direction away from him another time my husband caught a man taking pictures of the children and had to call the guard on him as he was in the park without any children of his own okay which is uh worrying we're having a few reports that seem to confirm um the marty's experience uh right so okay let's say good morning now to the leader of the ain't two party deputy pat or to being good morning to you thank you so much for joining us good morning how are you doing uh it's good to have you on the show and we're talking ahead of a public meeting uh taking place tonight at 8 p.m it's in the mount ergo hotel you'll be addressing concerns parents have on the new curriculum on social personal and health education and the relationship and sexuality uh education so what are your concerns about it yes this is a series of meetings that we're doing across the country at the moment and much of the content of the sphe right to um curriculum is positive and it's good and it's helpful uh for children and but the government unfortunately have let's say crowbars uh a lot of and ideology in relation to gender uh into the uh particular curriculum and so obviously we as a party want to see every citizen treated equally in this country no matter who they are what orientation that they have uh whatever their identity is and we also believe that there needs to be compassion uh for children and you know grown-ups as well who suffer from gender dysphoria maybe who feel that their gender is underlines to and their their physical gender and but we're a political party of pluralism we're a republican party that recognizes that there are plural value systems in Ireland and this is really important so you know everybody listens to your show not everybody thinks the same way people have different beliefs and values and we believe the education system should be plural as well so that a parent should be able to choose a school with their own ethos with their own value system so so before we get into that pattern so in in the curriculum i'm sure you've went all the way through it like i have from baby infants to sixth class in terms of national school you've gone through the the curriculum and and and the the notes for teachers and parents i presume you have obviously oh yes absolutely so um what is it in it that concerns you and and let's like is it talking about a person who's got two parents who are of the same gender or is it about the transgenderism uh a gender identity so like what is what is your actual concern that you say hold on your second should we be teaching this to primary school children the first concern is that we have is that the this the government is not allowing for plural ethos anymore they're saying there's one ethos it is uh every school has to accept us and it's mandatory so that's our first difficulty and that's that's what do you believe people should be able to opt out of is it talking about gays is it talking about trans people the major issue we have here is in terms of the gender ideology the issues around transgender ideology and for example most polls have shown that most parents don't believe that fifth and sixth class kids are mature enough to be able to be taught issues around transgender okay so so i'll read it i'll read it for the listeners it says uh this is in the fifth or sixth class it says that um we all have a gender identity gender identities how we think of ourselves as a boy or a girl neither or both the feeling of who you are starts when we are little and becomes more obvious as we go through adolescence when a baby is born from the new baby is initially identified as a boy it has a penis and as a girl it has a vulva that is what's called biological sex of the baby most people born with a penis feel and know that they are a boy and most people born with a vulva feel and know they are a girl these feelings interests and beliefs all make up what is called your gender then it says uh then it goes on to say however a small number of people may not feel that they are called at birth uh boy or girl really fits them and may want to explore their gender identity to find out what is right for them if a person has a deep sense that their gender identity is different from gender they were given at birth they may decide uh they may describe themselves as transgender then it goes on to say if you've got questions about your gender identity puberty can be a particularly confusing time your body may be changing in ways that don't match your sense of yourself so that is what's being taught about gender identity to fifth and sixth class now you believe that that's damaging or harmful and and by the way i'm not taking an opposing position to you i'm teasing out the convo you're saying that you believe that goes too far so like most people i believe that a woman is an adult's female okay and so like most people i don't believe that gender is identified are assigned at birth i believe that there is an actual gender that's you know i would believe that we should follow the scientific uh understanding of what gender and sex means and so what the government is doing here very very subtly in fifth and sixth class it's actually you know it's starting to dissolve that scientific understanding of what gender is the gender and sex are aligned and it's starting to say well actually gender is not your sex its gender is a felt experience and it may be completely different than what it says is the recognized gender at birth and then just to just continue because this is important and then when we get into the secondary school like so we're talking about 12 year olds who are starting secondary school very very shortly and the the whole process then increases that understanding the schools are actually advised now that teachers should introduce themselves by their pronouns on the first day that they have their class so that's you know mrs and smith is going to say my name is mrs smith and these are my pronouns so it starts to kind of really put front and center in this whole s p h e and class the idea that gender and sex are not aligned actually lots of people will agree with you and lots of people will think i'm i'm i'm wrong but i'm trying to as i say have a conversation with you like me and you i think we're kind of similar ages right you know ish maybe i don't know you could be older or younger it doesn't matter but be that as it may 49 i'm talking i'm talking to you about you know we're like two two bald men fighting over a comb right but my children have friends who are uh who are non-binary uh who are um that they're born as as boys and identify as girls and they're all treated equally they don't they don't really care like it's already happening i mean and that was started from 13 or 14 or 15 i'm not going to make a commentary on on on what uh the people that they're friends with are are not or whatever but they're all they already accepted like we're afraid of language and concepts that young people it's their life they're they're very funny with it they follow the people on tiktok they follow them on youtube people of all different backgrounds right so we're arguing oh we can't let the children they know it already but so just just the point i'm trying to say is the the education system is not advising children about the dangers around this issue so for example within first class already they're introduced to the idea of transitioning from one gender to another now in transitioning uh what we often have is children being assigned chemical puberty blockers for example now there is absolutely so little research done on the effects of chemical puberty blockers on young children at the moment in sweden and in britain and in finland they're already starting to advise that puberty blockers are not given to children why because they have a significant inevitably effects on their bone density and also can lead to lifelong infertility so that the school is presenting transition as a very very normal experience without actually discussing at all any of the chemical dangers that are presented by this so the the weird thing is that the irish education system is traveling down a route which many of the countries are actually traveling back from because they know that the dangers in relation to this so for example as well the school doesn't talk about the fact that there are you know certain challenges to women's rights around the issue of transgender so many women feel that they should the rights to use bathrooms and changing rooms as safe spaces for women only and and many women feel as well they should be allowed to play sports for women only and and you know many people feel that male-born sex offenders shouldn't be put into female prisons that doesn't happen very often but just to some of you it doesn't happen very often is not a good enough excuse yeah okay putting a male-born sex offender into a women's prison uh is an absolute disgrace yes and it actually led in parts it led in parts to the uh the prime minister of scotland's have designed yet is happening in ireland understood and and and also lia veratka is putting pressure on the irish rugby union to allow male-born players uh compete in women's rugby which you know for for people who who are worried about the impact that would have physically on women that the damage that can do so what i'm saying is the danger is that if you elevate ideology over science it will always lead to danger and you mentioned at the start of the intro that many people have different views about this and we're fine with that we're just saying that let parents choose the education value system that their kids have if parents want to have a value system that allows for this that be my guest i'm not arguing against that all i'm saying is that for the majority of your listeners don't force an education system that radically goes against their value system can i just ask that's the danger we're in at the moment can i ask a question i mean you don't mind me asking you questions do you and us having a conversation because every time i'm interviewing someone from main two and to a lesser extension fame uh people get up in arms that for all of a sudden that paddertole b's not able to handle himself and he's not being hurt you don't feel that do you know i'm quite happy to have a good robust discussion and i think you always have a respectful discussion when you come on highlander else you wouldn't come back on so so padders well able to look after himself and could eat me up and spit me out so don't worry about padder um but in terms of the hdc is already reviewing uh puberty blockers i think the majority of people have serious concerns about that uh there there we are already seeing in terms of padder um sports i i think there's a pullback uh as to to to where um you know as to where we we used to be are we not so are we not finding our level sort of as we work through this we went too far and now things are are coming back a little bit naturally yeah i do think your right to one's extent in that there has been far more discussion about this you know i think in 2015 when the gender recognition act went through most people you know including myself would have felt you know we want to make sure that you have a live and let live society okay and but what's happened i think is that the government are looking to re-engineer much of society and to fix their ideology and you know you mentioned the reality that the government is now reassessing puberty blockers and i mentioned obviously that the other countries are pulling back which there's no mention of the dangers of puberty blockers in and this education system there's no mention of the facts that 80 percent of people young people especially who feel that there are different gender than their their physical gender if they're given support and care and help true time they will actually come to learn exactly uh that you know that this this feeling will pass if you know what i mean so that this this feeling isn't the feeling that you know needs to be locked in and the problem is we now the government's policies was called gender affirmation and that means that if a young person said i feel that i'm a different gender the government's policy is that schools in the health service and elsewhere we immediately affirm that we don't necessarily start to diagnose what are the reasons for that feeling and there could be many reasons people could have mental health issues autism difficulties are having at home and the problem is if you don't actually treat the other co-morbidities that could be leading to this feeling of a different gender what you do is you you send a child and a pathway of changing their gender which could lead to significant you know major operations that could you know figure out the physicality for the rest of the life without actually treating the the real issues that are at the source but i don't see i don't see anything in the curriculum that goes against what you're you're saying there because in the bit i read out it wasn't like and sometimes you know of someone a boy a boy someone who's born a boy might feel like a girl here take some puberty blockers or here go and get corrective surgery or whatever you might call it it's like speak to a trusted adult speak to a trusted friend and i presume it's at that point when someone goes to their parents that the parents go right okay thank you for letting me know this is how you feel and and now we can go down the route of finding out if it's one thing or another pattern but in the absence of of giving the children that language could they not suffer a worse outcome in terms of you know feeling bullied or lonely or suicidal or something like is that is that in fifth or sixth class and i say this is just to tease out the points does this curriculum not encourage those children not affirm what they're feeling but encourage them to speak to a trusted adult and then we can get to the bottom of it and then it's the parents responsibility as to whether or not it's one of the conditions that you talked of well so first of all and the your rights in in in the terms of if you look at specifically just the curriculum but the ncca which is the national body for curriculum development in this country also has a lot of toolkits so these are supports and guides for teachers in how to implement and the curriculum itself and you know when you look at that that's actually quite more startling in many ways so that actually talks about teachers not using the words boys and girls in class anymore and so you know to actually delete the words boys and girls in class because in some way it could have an effect on children and make them feel not included and you know is is a quite a big step in terms of i don't think anyone yeah i think people would be really uncomfortable with that i'm talking about the support documentation and this is where i i don't sort of you know have to pay devil's advocate as much as i was here to for uh there's a person who's responsible for formulating this that's given examples of a study of 11 children i believe it is uh one as young as three um and that that child is quoted as part of this decision making process in saying that you know i i i'm a boy on the outside but i'm a girl on the inside or a reverse of that and this person says this is provable that that at that age people know already um if they are in the wrong gender now it's mostly for the teachers that information is is but that is feeding i mean i would like to see more evidence on that rather than it being presented as fact that three and four year olds know that they're in the wrong body in inverted commas and and it's where this might go i think that parents need to keep an eye on sure and if you were just to still aim to approach to this we understand that there are some children who are having difficulties in terms of gender and we want to make sure that they're treated with compassion and support but we also want the education system to be to be based on science because if we're based on ideology it means that it could actually lead to major difficulties for children in the future so we mentioned i mentioned gender affirmation there earlier and you know if you go to the toolkits again it states that you must accept the child's identity decided identity and i've spoken to two teachers on this and you know they're they're telling me that there's no due diligence being done as to actually what's happening in the child's life to make them feel a certain way it's just purely acceptance and once it's accepted the transition is encouraged and once the transition happens the child in many ways gets locked into this process and we're just calling for like common sense in relation to this i think here's lack of common sense what we need to do too is is you know it's a lot of adults and listen it's our responsibility there's a lot of adults backwards and forwards and and people are locked into a position on a lot of this stuff what we have to make sure is that we are helping children and not harming or damaging them because the consequences of what we are or not doing now will be felt for them not only just in their teen years the 20s 30s 40s and 50s so we need to make absolutely certain rather than us getting polarised on two opposing arguments to actually say hold on your second let's put that to one side let's come together and let's make absolutely certain that we are helping and not harming children and i worried that we're not doing that i really yeah and so you'll be you'll be aware of the taba stock crisis in english so obviously taba stock was a gender identity clinic in england and it started to process children in a similar fashion that mentions that simply simply affirmed that the identity without actually checking out what all the other issues were about now they have a thousand people suing them at the moment because of the lack of due diligence and care that they provided for the children and remember this as well if you look there's a gender identity clinic in ireland and in these are the people who are most educated in this space most based on science and actually probably other people who care most because they've invested their lives in it you know professor donaloshe stated on the radio in terms of the government's gender ideology policies he said that the government and this is a quote are being brainwashed by ideological activist groups in relation to their actions and we're just saying listen guys relax pause take it easy here let's start to make sure that we base our approach as a country on science and on evidence and not on ideology and right now the government have crowbarred ideology right in the middle of the education system that's quite dangerous and we're just saying simply you know that parents should have a right to to have a say over what their children are being taught remember the department of education is employed by parents to teach their kids and now these these departments are actually going against parents wishes in terms of that education and it's a dangerous space when you when you you know block parents input into education so but there was a in fairness there was a full consultation and you know thousands of parents did have their say maybe those with the majority opposing as well interesting but just one other thing too again and this is only for children all of the children that we have to be careful of I talked a little earlier on that where we were at right so where we were at whereas sport was was very very inclusive and on other things and now that's rolling back a little bit in terms of puberty blockers and what have you but this this curriculum is is is born of of the time when you know four or five years ago maybe when everyone was rushing to just thinking maybe they were doing the right thing maybe it'll turn out to me and this is locked in now whereas we're seeing in the education of children yet we're seeing in the other areas that we talk of that we're having pause for thought and a rethink do you get where I'm coming from and I just I just wonder if they need to sort of now as we maybe are seeing as the dust settles and having more conversation if they say right okay is this locked into a what we thought was the right thing four or five years ago but maybe we've learned a little bit more since so I I understand for sure that people come to this on both sides from compassion so people feel that they're doing the right thing by those who they feel are the most vulnerable and but my worry on this is you know this is now being delivered rights true society so you know you have a situation incredible situation where the HSC is advertising their cervical check services to people with cervixes rather than women they you know they've advertised you know breastfeeding as chest feeding that the government's tried to get rid of the word mother from maternity legislation not just to get away with it though that I mean that's all been most that's where the pushback yeah this is where the pushback is coming from and and and I think it's because the government have way overstepped but just to reiterate my point that pushback I don't know if it's reflected in this document that's the point I'm trying to make you see it's still locked into where we were at four or five years ago yes I agree I agree I think that the education system currently and the the thinking in the NCCA is absolutely still where you know the the state may have been three or four years ago so I do think it's it's a historic it's an out of date approach and I do think people have moved on and realized that there's actually more balance and safety and concern needed in this space there are a lot of elements of the sex education system that are difficult as well in relation to let's say hardcore pornography and you know we believe obviously that children need to be I suppose educated into what hardcore pornography is but we do understand that kids need to be taught but the the the dangers of hardcore pornography that consumption of hardcore pornography can lead to sexual violence rape and assault and but we have seen we've heard people from the NCCA been interviewed on the radio you know for example saying that's one of the tools they can use one of the resources they can use to help teach about hardcore pornography would maybe be the you know a script of a pornographic film to be discussed in class with the children good luck finding one of them like it's it's just incredible because most many parents at least are trying the best to keep kids away from hardcore but again I I think we need to do something there I think young men particularly are getting their sex education from pornography I think young girls are are having expectations set for them from pornography and I'm also really concerned that the most search term in our end on porn hub step sister or step mom so whatever's going on we need to know whatever's going on we need to sort that out I don't know how we do it but ignoring I'm going to tell you aim to have a bill and that bill would actually prevent and pornography companies from targeting children with materials so and we were told that it couldn't happen we identified you know a system whereby internet and search companies such as you know virgin and air for example they would have to put a block on a company providing material to children if that company didn't put in some system to identify age and again we were told it couldn't happen the french government are now going exactly down that route because right across the world people are understanding that providing 10 10 10 11s bad girls with really hardcore materials absolutely distorts their understanding of sexual relationships healthy sexual relationships should be as you said it distorts girls understanding of what's expected from them in society and and that they have a right to to withhold consent and is leading to violence on a significant scale like sexual violence has increased in Ireland rapidly over the last 10 years and sexual violence by children on children is also increasing rapidly we're making victims perpetrators out of our children okay listen interesting conversation and we will get nowhere in in this society unless we start conversing again because you know what I 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register visit hsc.ie forward slash cervical check or free phone one eight hundred forty five forty five fifty five from the hsc okay i'm joined in studio now by kazoo the clan aka jess harkin uh kazoo jess interchangeable thank you so much for joining us how are you keeping i'm good how are you and i have to say you look fantastic thank you okay um you are going to be performing um with the circus here shortly we're gonna talk about that in a moment but talk to me a little about yourself because very early on you got the bug to be a clan how did that come about yeah i saw a circus when i was three and uh i thought that the clowns owned the elephants and i thought if i became a clown that i would get a pet elephant but uh i've been working for a circus for two years now and still no elephants so i'd have words of fanpost but i mean like obviously at that time animals would have been more common you'd trapeze artists you had people standing on chairs and all manner of things why do you think it was the clown that stood out for you well the other than the morning elephants the elephants were the coolest thing and the clowns were the next coolest thing so in my mind they had to be the ones in charge so the clowns owned the elephants that's the way my three-year-old brain worked but at three you wanted to be a clown yeah all right okay so then as you i mean you know i remember when i was younger you'd watch ramble or something and next thing you know you'd have a pretending knife and all that kind of stuff was it like that like uh for you for clarity then you instantly want to dress up and act out and i didn't really have anything like that back then so i didn't dress up or anything i just told everyone that i wanted to be a clown and that that did not go down well in school so i did quickly get bullied out of that and i forgot about it for a long time um but i started doing magic tricks then when i was 12 so when you went into school you had to suppress that in you a little bit yeah yeah um the kids just kind of teased me about it so i kind of give up on it for a long time yeah you had to hide that part of you uh so then uh you hit 12 you start doing magic tricks and stuff what got you into that well i saw darren brown on tv yeah and i just thought it was wonderful so i started learning tricks on youtube and showing my family and friends and it went down very well but uh i was very shy so when i started doing birthday parties and stuff it was not great so that's when i decided to make a clown character when i was about maybe 13 or 14 and uh that's when i made kazoo and it was just easier to be kazoo rather than me yeah um because i thought i'm not reading the notes here i don't think you enjoyed school too much i think it was a bit tough for you wasn't yeah i dropped out yeah okay so did i by the way go team go team go drop out so and when you were doing the magic tricks did you find yourself like terrible sort of fear beforehand then it went okay then you were yeah that's brilliant for five minutes then you forgot that and then the fear of it doing it again uh started up always all a nightmare for you it was it's the fear of going up to people and saying do you want to see a magic trick as soon as they say yes then i'm fine then it was then it was okay and then it was over again then it was fine too because then we had something to talk about and and you used magic really as your introduction to people you you you know it started the the interactions the first conversations and all that kind of stuff so it was a tool for you and we often use that don't we we use laughter or humour or whatever it might be so this was just your wee version of what we mostly most of us use in society anyway exactly how good magic were you darren brown is it darren brown darren brown yeah darren brown he is uh something else isn't he is uh if madam knows very cool yeah uh nowhere near his level but he's not like i mean he does a bit of he does a bit of you know the close-up magic and stuff but his is more mentalism now isn't it mentalism is that it you know what i mean and tricking the mind and and it's beyond it's beyond uh how he does a lot of the stuff he does but his stage shows i've only seen the live ones as you know he's well in with channel four but they are an experience a journey a story you know i think one was about his relationship with his father and you know it's all very meaningful yeah okay uh so you've met him he seems like a decent chap yeah he does all right okay so then thought that's magic from 12 you continue that through when did you say that kazoo was born uh around when i was 13 or 14 you've got no water and i've got coffee it's all good so right 13 14 about 13 or 14 yeah and how did you perform or where did you it was mainly cousins birthday parties at that stage yeah i had you a routine practice and ready to go at that point yeah i was doing magic tricks and uh few balloon animals face paints yeah okay and at what point did it get to where you thought there's a career in this because i mean i perceived people around you were going hell on you yeah well when i first started i wanted to do more of the Darren Brown stuff yeah i didn't want to do kids parties at all uh children are scary you know yeah but uh all my parents and all the adults around me told me that all magicians start with kids parties yeah so i did that and i just got kind of good at it so i stick with it and uh then i first got my first circus job just before the pandemic uh it was in letter kinny it was a santos grotto circus brilliant different crowd than what i'm off now yeah and what was that like it was really fun um i was an elf though not a clown right but uh that's what they told you it was just for a couple months and then uh they he passed on my details to the guys i'm with now after the pandemic and i've been with them since wow okay so it's the it's the it's the it's the culmination of a dream since you were three yep and has it matched all your expectations uh jess there's a lot more sweeping than i thought there would be but uh yeah it's it's wonderful it's a lot of hard work but really fun yeah and what is the life in a circus like because there was a circus up recently uh up in uh that was touring around bonnie gall and there's some amount of equipment and everything's set up and it pops up and then it's down and then they move 15 kilometers away and it's all again i assume everyone has to be involved in that yeah you know no one's no one can sit in a trailer just doing nothing here i'd imagine it takes the whole team uh to do all of that is it is it tough is it as tough as it looks oh yes there's uh there's five of us at the minute um and everyone helps with everything now yours you're in a different type of circus of course i'm on about a massive grandiose one yours is how would you describe the circus that you're involved in traditional circus traditional circus okay would you like that other side of it do you know the big versions that i'm talking of i think it's nice too but there is a better atmosphere in the smaller shows yeah everyone's packed in and also you you're not restricted by uh space or booking or whatever you can just go to a venue exactly yeah all right okay and is it your circus or circus is generally are they for kids and adults sneakly enjoy or if they're for everyone they're for everyone yeah of course circus was originally just for adults and then kids started going and they added in the animals and the clowns hmm i don't mind the animals not being in as much that's the one thing i didn't really like about uh well they've been bad since 2018 so yeah i just i wasn't um i don't mind if you want to pull a rabbit out you know and i want to join that so then talk to me about the the crew that you're working with as you mentioned it's a it's a crew of five and that there's still an awful lot of work to be done uh with the type of traditional circus that you're involved in so um what is this the show because we're talking about a show that's coming up as well very shortly between the first and the 10th in letter kenny across from mcdonnell's there but so what is your show about uh well we've got trapeze fire breathing uh hand balancing comedy bananas you have to see the show to understand that there's little bits everything there's even lasers so we've got a little bit of a modern twist in it too but it's all very traditional i really like it yeah but it's still a big show yeah oh yeah loads of big trucks outside too yeah exactly all right okay and um is it what what do you do like it i mean what is the role of a clown in a circus now as you see because obviously you've got your magic skills and all that type of stuff as well i'm doing comedy routines i'm doing magic routines as well so all right okay what's your best magic trick uh not one that i do in the show because it's broken currently and it's been broken for three years and i can't find anyone that can fix it but it was a floating table uh i knew a magician uh once who um their their favorite act uh was you know what do you call it when you saw people oh i was like uh saw a lady in half yeah yeah yeah yeah but there were there they they did it took an awful long time to perfect it i've they got very good at it but at the at the moment now they've got three half sisters and two half brothers hey hey you know the first guy that did that trick when uh when it was like it was a long time ago and uh to publicize that they had an ambulance outside the venue and a big sign on it that said in case the saw slips oh fantastic and it's the little things isn't it yeah it is just the little things um right so it's nice to bring joy to people isn't it yeah is that the part that you enjoy this laugh the smiles smile is the best bit yeah and particularly the younger ones yeah well both i like but you know i think part of me would go right you know it would be lovely if if the next three-year-old jess was in the audience you know what i mean and to influence them and bring joy into their life yeah i like to make sure that everyone gets a souvenir so i try to stand outside ever after the shows to get pictures of people and uh if kids are too shy then i'll still give them a sticker so that they have some kind of souvenir because the pulleride that i got of me on the elephant i carried around for weeks oh brilliant i still have it as well um right so where do you tour um is it all over the country is it international or what's the story just in ireland um we've been turned around donnie gulf for the last couple months now um which has been lovely for me yeah handy close to home got to see my family and stuff and they've got to see the show because they hadn't seen it before now so and is it seasonal uh jess we stop around the end of october and then start up again in march okay brilliant uh and you're always working towards well what can we change what can we do and all that kind of stuff and then like do you have a schedule for next year or do you see how it goes as the year breaks we just see how it goes i don't even know where we're going next brilliant well that's nice though isn't it and life would you call it life on the road yeah definitely it's a different town every week yeah rock and roll heck yeah okay and um originally jess where you're from letter kenny well i'm from convoy convoy okay born letter kenny born and out of jail okay i did work in tesco for like two years but you're enjoying this uh is kazoo really banned from tinder i was yeah we got some random comments in here what are you on about yeah i used to do a routine i used to do a like a mini series on tiktok um where i would just go on tinder and change all my pictures to kazoo and uh just see the funny messages that i would get and reply to them and uh then tiktok ban me which is tiktok banned you no sorry tinder i was gonna tiktok did also ban me but they thought i was underage it's what i do i get banned on things and then get it back again but the press reached out to tinder and asked them for comment and then they on banned me and that made i think that's a big plan discrimination going on there it made international news so just woke up one more now i was in the new york post and then what they put me on the drew barry more show really when was that yeah last year my god were you on zoom on the drew barry more show did you go over what uh no they just showed my the tiktoks on the on the show i know that i know the item that you're talking about if you do if you go up on youtube and you type in drew barry more clown it'll show up i don't miss much i can't believe i missed that story because i'm never off the phone yeah i can't believe that all right brilliant stuff uh so you got great publicity and you're on tinder or kazoo's on tinder or whatever fancy takes you uh that that's completely up to you right so you're doing um is it nine shows or just the shows between the first and 10th of september we're doing seven shows so it's this friday saturday sunday and next thursday friday saturday i just hold on your second it's september soon right i thought we're still in the summer remind when you're doing again sorry i thought september was about two months away so it's from the first to the tenth we're in letter kenny at the minute we moved here last night so uh we're doing the shows this friday saturday and sunday and next thursday friday saturday sunday and again i'm i'm confused in different things it's is it in your tent or is it in a venue oh it's in the tent in a tent yes we're right across from mcdonald's right okay so i can get my clown food yeah exactly i'm trying to figure out where that is yeah i know where it is now all right okay so you get the full circuits experience there's lots of stuff a bit of it i like the modern twist a bit laser stuff that sounds fantastic and and and just you're happy at you're enjoying life definitely enjoying and it's good to get home as well yeah but you are you staying at home or with the rest of the crew no i'm staying in a wagon at the exactly that's right you can't have any uh teabas i'll probably get home at night after a show or something all right okay so how do you can't book in advance you turn up don't you on on the if you go down to the circus site you can but if you're about half an hour before the show you should be fine brilliant okay and just remind us once again the dates and the times and the location so the first to the 10th the friday saturday and sunday this week and next week the thursday friday saturday and sunday and we're across from mcdonald's in the town all right brilliant stuff and what time did you say oh the times that's why you're avoiding that right it's seven on friday five on sunday oh no five on saturday so there's a good seven on saturday seven on friday five on saturday five on sunday and then next week it's seven on thursday seven on friday five on saturday and then you chilled on sunday and then you chilled on sunday uh come here where's our facebook page there is at circus corvinio corvinio okay well listen fantastic story um jess aka kazu it's i i i love happy stories and the fact that you're sort of realising the dream of a three year old to me is just beautiful it's fun uh and i'm so happy for you and continued success with it and you're with this crew now you see yourself with them for you're obviously in a family now and see your future there listen thank you so much for joining us jess harkin aka kazu the clown you can see uh kazu and the rest of the crew as uh we heard there on dates between the first and 10th of september at various times uh cross from mcdonald's and just remind people of the facebook page one more time circus corvinio we'll be back with more after the break the nine till noon show is brought to you by letter kenny credit union offering low rate holiday loans 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and what's what is the advantage of having a community dog in your school brendan well we've just opened two special classrooms for the first time in the school's history so we've opened a special class for students with autism and a special class for students with multiple disabilities so orio really compliments the work that goes on in those classrooms but also in the wider schools so any students that might have behavioral difficulties or emotional difficulties or anxiety or stress or anything like that orio is there to help reduce those barriers to learning and really it's about you know maximizing the learning potential of the students and he's he's two at christmas and he's still he's still young uh he's still learning but he is an incredible asset and a resource to have in the school and as I say he joined us from irish guide dogs we're very grateful to them there's only 14 community dogs in irish schools at the moment so we feel very privileged to have them and uh yeah so he's the first indoni gol and he's the first I believe north of go away so we're very fortunate to have him in the school fantastic and um his skill set or her skill set is very very particular tried and tested only three weeks in the job uh and and everyone's still learning the ropes I suppose because there's a wee bit of a change isn't it in a different approach particularly uh north of that Galway Dublin line yeah yeah so a lot of consultation involvement staff and the build up to this it as part of the application to irish guide dogs it was a very rigorous application and this was vetting process for us as a school to make sure we met the requirements we have three staff in the school who are handlers and again they're all trained as handlers in the school um we had consultation with parents as well because we recognized that it was quite a departure to have a dog in the school and for some people when they think of a dog they might anticipate a dog running free through the corridors but it's quite the opposite it's very very controlled and he's not a pet or a mascot he is very much a working dog and he's there to support our students he has his own timetable he has his own safe spaces where he can you know switch off and let's suppose decompress because it's it's intensive work that he does he's limited to four sessions a day with the students and that can range from anything from you know taking the dog something simple like taking the dog for a walk or grooming the dog or doing animal care but it can be a little bit more intense one to one you know if you have a student who maybe is a school or fusion and doesn't want to be here Oreo can be the difference he can be the the reason they come into school he's there in the morning greeting students and he can be the reason the student stays in the school so it's a massive benefit to us for the special classrooms yes but for the wider school community as well and it is early days and his timetable will evolve and change but it's all based on the needs of the students so yeah he's settling in quite nicely where he's a few sessions a day we'll build up to four sessions a day eventually but it's going very well so far and required buying from staff as well presumably it's the teachers have to be his designated handlers is that correct and also you know the comes that they have to buy into it and go right I can see the benefits of this and you can't just have one because there's holidays and what have you as well so you have to have your team on board with you to say right this is this is best for the students let's go with this yeah that's right we've two teachers in one s and a who are his handlers and who will do the work and one to one or in groups or in classroom activities so they're had to be buying but from the wider staff and the community as well you know there was apprehension amongst maybe some staff or parents but again we had open dialogue when we explained you know if there's a student who has an anxiety around dogs or allergies the dog won't be going anywhere near them and and it's very controlled as I say there's only certain rooms the dog will be in and certain spaces so for example he's currently lying next to me having a time out on the floor in my office and but again I'm not a handler so he just comes here to switch off while I'm working but yeah it is it's very beneficial to the students you know as I say it could be something simple like reading to the dog it could be just sitting down and reading to the dog that allows that student to relax it could be more significant you could have a student who's in real crisis and you know they could be suffering potentially a trauma or a panic attack or something like that and this could be the it could be the dog that calms them down allows them to regulate their mood and their emotions so yeah we're very very optimistic it's early days we've been told by Irish guy dogs in no uncertain terms that we have to reinforce his training and it's very strict in terms of his diet he's not allowed in the staff room for that reason he's not allowed in the canteen for that reason so it's very very controlled and even if somebody wants to meet him or you know interact with them it's all on you know it's very controlled the the handlers have to agree to it and then it's the dog has to sit or lie down and again it's it's it's very calm he's an outcast as you explained it sounds all bloody complicated and in practice it works really well I'm sure and it'll work even you know more smoothly as the term wears on I really look forward to maybe chatting to you again to see how and I'm sure other schools will be saying how's that going for you and we'd love to chat again Brendan but and he came named Oreo I take it he did he came from a litter down in Cork and he was fostered by a family to socialize him for the first 12 months and then he was trained intensely by Irish guide dogs and he came with the name 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