 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump mind pump with your hosts salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews in this special edition of mind Adam's mom in the house Mama Schaefer here hang on Mama Schaefer for only a few shaper owning this episode She said it was really tough the whole time to not chime in I can see where you get Your So for the first 51 minutes we do our introductory conversation We start off by actually mentioning the delicious super berry flavor of brew doctor By the way, they're a hundred percent raw organic non-gmo gluten-free vegan. It's a probiotic Beverage you can find them at Whole Foods Trader Joe's new seasons Kroger's sprouts and most cock Costco's most cock most cock most cock What the hell tastes really good though Better than going in your mouth Adam Adams organified turmeric blender bleaching update I call bullshit. It's not working. The Sun is not taking out this That's some strong. Come on guys. We're looking at you for answers. Dude. I'm telling you could be organified though It's on another level. It's real man from the anti-inflammatory Maybe that works for all the fake turmeric that's out there, but or can't find the real real staining kind We are sponsored by organifi if you go to organifi.com forward slash mine pump and enter the code mine pump You get 20% off then we talked about some pranks like the time somebody pooped In Justin's car that asshole. I still remember I feel like Justin did that and then try to blame it on I didn't take it to that level We talked about the Audi chief executive being arrested for diesel gate We talked about your feet shenanigans and your health Multiple personality disorder and the power of the mind then we get into the questions First question was you know as a trainer. It can be tough to practice what you preach What are some tips that we have to hold yourself accountable to keep you accountable for what you teach? Great segment in this episode. Yeah, the next question was we talked about increasing calories to rev up your metabolism But a lot of people don't want to eat more because they're afraid of gaining body fat What can we tell our clients or what can we tell ourselves when going through that process afraid of the gains? The next question was this particular individual's mom is 60 years old and has osteopenia and started lifting weights But their doctor or their nurse told them not to lift weights for some reason they're idiots We need to talk about this We actually mentioned prime and prime pro in this segment of that episode You can find those programs at mine pump media comm and the final question Is it beneficial to implement cuts or mini cuts into a bulk? So let's say you're trying to gain muscle mass and you're eating more calories Is it smart to have a day or two or a week where you actually cut your calories? Can that actually help you build muscle? 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So I'm only joking mama Schaefer is in the the studio today So if I'm a little PC that might be why this is the this is the most nervous I've been in a really 800 episodes sweating a little I've never been so nervous to do our show Except for my mom's I feel like I'm gonna get like the daggers every time Find out real quick why I'm afraid of them let Latino women do you get that crazy streaking Put you in your place, you know man this this kombucha which flavor is this that Taylor brought us This is the new flavor dude. This is the berry one is the one with the elderberry. I like this one better than the apple Yeah, it's called super berry Right. I like it because it's a it tastes good Organic do you know that Taylor is working on us a getting a keg here? Oh, okay of brew doctor So by the end of this week, I believe did you know that Doug? Did you know that was coming? He mentioned it. So yeah, it's supposed to be coming by the end of this week And we're gonna run two taps on the the kegerator. Is that what it's called? Is it kegerator? Is that the right sounds good? I feel like that was I think that was Doug's nickname in college Kegerator yeah In college now. Hey, how about how about when we did the memes in Santa Cruz? Or when we were just up at the whatchamacallit not Santa Cruz But hard when we were messing with each other and doing all with the shiv Doug's was the best But you had you had to be like a true listener since day one to really get it because people are DMing like yeah Because his had a picture of it was an ice pick Psychopath well first it was a picture of like a like an Asian school girl Yeah, and that's just because he lived in Japan for a long time Oh, yeah about that all the time not not as Asian, you know, fetish Yeah, there's no there's nothing about the what it was it the what was what are those machines called the panty? Yeah, the panty machines inside the venue machines. Yes in Japan. It's a real thing. They actually never saw one though Oh, you never saw never saw one. No, but you wanted to Hard What what a great investment what hey, how do you Google that? What do you Google you can dirty women's underwear? I wouldn't do that if I were you I don't know. I think that'll show up on your history forever It's a business guy. So he had that then he had a shiv would look like an ice pick But people don't know that there's a joke about that It's because Doug is easily the most dangerous member of the mine pump crew right for sure He's the first guy to make a shiv. He's good. He's gonna. Yeah, he'll kill people We keep them happy we tried to at least what was the other one? So there was the there was those two then there was what else was on that Meme oh the home the kombucha. Oh, yeah, cuz he brews kombucha and then in podcasting equipment. Yeah, that's right Yeah, yours was ruthless. Yeah Second one. I thought Justin's is the best rogain. Yeah, mine cheese and a plunger Doesn't get any more accurate than that Except if you would have like painted toilets like I was hoping for that if you're gonna go in go in How do you find that? You know what I mean? How do you find? Yeah, like the right way to dude. I'm seriously tripping over the taste of this kombucha This has to be the best one that I've had. Yeah, don't they have they had an apple one They also I think I believe he was telling me they're making it in cans Yes, so you can take it with you to the beach and you know and like cuz you know some of these beaches I don't allow like the the bottles to go down there. I don't think any beach does it I don't think so. I think that's a pretty universal thing. You can't have glass on the beaches Yeah, so now you can have some kombucha while you're enjoying the sun. Yeah summer. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize I mean, I have to say this kombucha is a it's a fermented tea drink So if you're trying to get more fermented foods in your diet Because of the you know the beneficial bacteria, you know, we humans have eaten fermented foods for thousands of years It's present in almost every ancient culture and it's probably an important part of Overall health and so it's just an easy way to do it nowadays. Otherwise, where else do you get fermented food, right? Yogurt, but then you know if you get yogurt, you're probably getting a bunch of crap, right? Yeah, real yogurt is like sauerkraut and yeah, so I think you put sauerkraut on yeah No, I don't know too many people eat a lot sauerkraut Kombucha is cool because you just buy it and drink it and if you have problems pooping Justin Now when you know when you had dr. Ruscio problem, I'm just gonna put it out there When you had dr. Ruscio on the show, didn't you didn't you guys go on the YouTube and talk a little bit about butch? Did you guys talk about it? We just talked about the benefits of fermented foods and he didn't mention how kombucha is a because I thought I asked him I thought I asked him what how much he recommended that you drink it. Do you remember? No, I am assuming that the answer is gonna be it depends. I don't think consuming anything too much is Gonna be beneficial. I know for me if I have a bottle of kombucha Every few days every two days or so it seems to be the right amount if I have like one a day or two a day Then I actually will start to bother and I don't get from this You know how some of them they have like a really thick film across it's like the slime Oh, yeah, you know parts of the scoby. Yeah, it's called scoby. It's called scoby. Yeah, this is nice and smooth Yeah, little scoby starts to develop in a lot of these bottles of kombucha. Yeah, I don't notice that in this one Which is great. No, it's good. It's they use a scoby to make it, but then there's no scoby in there It's also one of the lowest in sugar too, right? Yeah, you know, you have to use sugar because that's what ferments That's what the bacteria feeds off of so it's impossible. It's impossible to do of course It's just like any alcohol like you know, I mean alcohol is made by fermenting sugar. Mm-hmm Hey, I want to ask you dude about your the you had five people message you saying if you put your Turmeric stained blender in the Sun how it would bleach out the or get rid of the man with this Yeah, did that work? We just did it It didn't work. It didn't work. So I don't know if organophys just got like super turmeric And so it stains the shit out of the blender to where there's no way for me to clean this out But we just did it yesterday and I told Katrina well Did you make sure it was like directly in the sunlight or did it get shaded? And so we went through like the whole checklist so it's there again today So I'm not I haven't fully abandoned this strategy because everybody says that supposedly I mean I must have got 10 DMs by today now there get kept people still saying that yeah Everybody is telling me that if your blender gets stained with turmeric you can put it out in the Sun The Sun will naturally bleach it back to its normal. Here's what I recommend baking soda or Lemon or white vinegar as a mild bleach. That's what I recommend. Wonder if I do all of the above I wonder if I bleach vinegar that'll explode. I just don't feel good about putting bleach in my blender. Why not? I don't know. Huh? I don't know. It just doesn't feel like I should do that You never bleach things that you eat it. You ever blitz you don't bleach your like your sponges I don't I don't I don't believe you don't wash dishes Whatever dude you were single for like six months, bro You know what you know what dishes were like for like six months. That's still wash dishes deal Yeah, I do I do the dishes. You didn't just do that for Instagram. No, we do a trade me and Jessica Sexual favorite Totally worth it an apron with a shirt off. Yeah. Yep. Yeah that you know, I think of all the house duties I do anything for sex We know that we know that all the house duties dishes are my least favorite deep dishes are the most meditative. I disagree Folding laundry is more meditative to me. Yeah Folding laundry is also. Yeah folding laundry suck. Let me tell you okay. I'm gonna change your mind right now Okay, here's why dishes are so close me on why I want to do dishes Okay, so folding anything Katrina's gonna love you anything you do that requires Like low skill can be meditative because you can get into a rhythm and you can get into your zone and become very present and think And just what I or just be present The water and washing dishes is what helps do that the feeling of the water on your hands can because it's a Sensation can help make you more present put headphones on and listen to music while you do it as well Yeah, give that a shot. Be zen about it, bro. Yeah, do you do your you don't do your I do. Yeah Oh, you do too. Yeah, but I let it make me feel like it. No, no, no all the time. So calm down You know, we're definitely better guys I tried like honestly I have to like try to make sure like I'm like, oh shit I got to do that like something to help out, you know, like I So I used to she would she would just want me to do the floors because her things like if the floors are dirty and like any Kind of like dirt comes in from outside freaks out So for me, it's like the countertops like I I can't stand like chaotic, you know clutter everywhere So I'm always like that's my thing like I want to get rid of that shit So the dishes a lot like an afterthought to me. So I'm always like checking myself like oh fuck See you have to you have to do a lot of stuff in the house because I'll tell you why first off All of our girls work. So it's like they work too, right? Mm-hmm So we don't we can't really say hey, I work you don't can't say that number two When's the last time a burglar came in here to defend everybody? Exactly. Yeah, so we're worthless. You gotta clean this or you can have another guy that came in the house next door And I wouldn't you know, check that out. So you don't have to do shit then you should tell your wife Like I don't have anything for at least I did that exactly for the year because I defended the idea What is your least? What is your least favorite house chore around the house to do or not do? What's my least favorite dishes are mine man? I don't like their bed. Yeah, really? Yeah, I don't like dishes I don't mind dishes. I don't mind cleaning the floors making beds is not that big of a deal Probably cleaning bathrooms like toilets and stuff like that. Do you even do that? Nope? You don't know we hire somebody for that Yeah, you have you have house cleaners, don't you? I have someone who comes I know I finally do I know you just now Just got in this world the last couple months and oh, yeah, how's that been? Oh, so nice to come in and it's like Yeah, everything is like smells a chemical frity. Yeah, so how many how many months in are you right now? Probably four. I want to say oh, so you're still in the honeymoon phase Yeah, everybody says like you know I mean they try real hard to win your business and they do everything awesome and then they start slacking on You're gonna start hiding your money Did you guys hire somebody you knew or did you was a recommendation just was there it was a recommendation from one of Courtney's friends I had a friend I had this friend that used to work to work out of my gym right this woman and she hired this lady to clean her house and This woman was extremely thorough. So the so she said she took pictures she came home one day and Her sex toys were lined up on her drawer. Oh, yeah, like standing up all like she's like she cleaned Yeah That's like really, you know going the extra step Did I ever tell you guys the the astro glide prank that I played on my boy? No, oh Dude, so I'll never forget that. I thought I shared this story Prank on your boy. Yeah, all right. Well, yeah, I'm proud of you for for bringing this story in with your mom It's okay. It's not that bad. Okay. All right So we this was so remember I told you guys this before that every year We used to go up to Trinity for like 10 days. We go camping everything, right? Yeah, so This year my buddy mark you guys know mark about mark before This is the the friends that I go camping with these are like childhood friends And so I was bringing him to this camping trip for the first time and kind of introducing those friends Whatever and he had to go back home early. Well when he went back home two days earlier than when we left the campsite My wallet was in his car And so he lived in Sacramento at the time and we had to come down through Sacramento and I'm pulling the boat So I have my back then I had my lifted Chevy I'm pulling the boat and mark lives downtown Sacramento and he's got my wallet and I'm driving in and I'm asking him I'm like, hey, could you meet me like at a freeway exit or something like that so I could just pull off and get it from you And he's like, oh, no, we got to go to this party It'll I'll leave my doors unlocked in the back. Just come and get it I'm like, bro. I've got the boat and he's downtown so I I've been to his house a bunch of times So I know oh, I know it's gonna be a real pain in the ass just to get in and out of there And he's like, oh, no, we gotta go to this party and this and that I'm like, dude I'm only like 30 minutes away. Can you just wait and he was like nine He hung up the phone. He left me and he left the door So I was pissed right so I'm fucking hella mad like heading into that and we get we get to the We get to his house and he collects DVDs like I do so I did a bunch of different pranks, right? So he's in it's Sacramento. It's July. So it's like 110 degrees So I go I crank his heater up to as high as it goes. So I turn I turn his heaters on right I go hide all of his TV remotes. I Take one shoe of all of his dress shoes. I hide. I'm so pissed about this whole thing to ride this Oh, I did go on because I was so mad. I took all of his DVDs. I took them all out scattered them Yeah, you see how mad I was it was really mad Like you've made them all in the wrong you maybe pull up But yes, the wrong sleeve on this that that prank by the way ended up being the best prank of all of them because that lasted like five years Of course, you pull out like I want to watch command. He's just like going for the random like it's like random movie hour I just never know so what ended up happening. He told me this like years later He says because he was so angry about all this stuff It took us a while before we could laugh about it It was like a year later before we could joke about it and stuff He goes that DVD thing you did to me screwed me for Literally for years because it got to the point where it's like you'd want to watch a movie and he has like 500 DVDs Yeah, so to you want specifically a movie and then you have no idea which one it could possibly be and he says I would spend a half hour trying to find it and then finally just to forget it I'll just watch whatever is in this case That one really pissed that one really pissed turner and hooch again The last prank that I got on him that it didn't it didn't come around until probably about a month later I guess until he used his astro glide, but we took the astro glide and we dumped it out We put water back in it instead Mood killer So that was my that's my astro glide prank I got a buddy that switched out the Vaseline with or mixed in some what's it called? Oh, I see I won't go into the deep story about You reach for the Vaseline and you end up with some you know some mentalated Death I feel like a good prank is a prank that gets somebody and it continues to get somebody for a long time And it doesn't destroy anything like they like can see the they give up and they're like Yeah, this is how things are gonna be for a while, right? Those are great prank. I like pranks But the problem with them is that they start to they progress and they start to get worse And I'm the kind of person like right I don't do pranks on people because I don't like being pranked myself So I'm like I'm cool like I'm pretty cool with that kind of stuff But I gotta be prepared for the backlash That's it And I know that I'll I'll amp it up and then they're gonna amp it up and we'll amp it up Before you know it, you know Well, yeah, what normally happens is somebody destroys something or breaks like takes it to a level where it takes a dump in your car It's like yeah, what happened to me what in your car? Yeah, you should in your car in the car because there was like a Deserve that nothing I peed on these guys tires like I got back from the bars drunk I thought it'd be hilarious to like We're peeing like you know on the grass like in front of the dorms and So I'm peeing on the skies tired as my friend. I was like ha ha ha you know, it was like a totally piece of crap car right and so He apparently saw me through the window and that night and then the next morning I found like a turd in my my front seat Yeah So How did he get in there dude? He took a hover dump like over the Sunroof Sunroof That like that took a lot of effort, you know, I mean and oh wow. Yeah, that was could you imagine I couldn't talk to him You imagine getting caught doing that prank by the cops trying to explain that what are you doing? No, no, it's a joke Dude, how I was like that escalated quickly It was a good healthy one though, huh fully formed it was yeah, it was a nice pile. Yeah, what oh In your car, would you do sell your car? Yeah, I just got rid of it Just abandon your car it was a piece of shit. I was gonna say tell me you were driving a bomb No, no, no, I was at her cell. It was like a little piece of shit. I ended up buying a Jeep after that Okay, yeah, that is terrible. I didn't care to me But like dude his car was the same it was like a piece of shit And we even like we took spray paint and we like painted flames on it and made it all ironically like horrible You know like it was a race car and stuff and then he goes and did that that was dirty. I saw an upper-decker a real Upper-decker. I didn't know people actually did that in real life Now is that when you is that when you shit in the sink or when you shit in the upper part? No, no, no, you poop in the tank Yes, because people don't know that it's there and they could have flushed the toilet and shit water Yeah fills up your toilet and you can't figure it out and the only way to get it out is you have to go in and clean The tank by hand. Yeah, yeah, cuz you keep flushing it Yeah, it's terrible. I don't think girls prank each other like I don't think girls do that No, they don't do terrible terrible things. I had another buddy who who passed out and so they shaved his eyebrows I thought that would be hilarious It is funny, you know why it's funny because it took it took my buddy like an alien for like months It took my buddy like 20 minutes to figure out what was wrong with his reflection He's looking at me or he keeps Imagine you wake up with no no eyebrow. Yeah, you might not notice that first like why do I look weird? What's the move you just gotta draw it on like it? No, he just no eyebrow. He just looks surprised all the time It was about it was about a month or two ago that we talked we got in the first time I think we started talking about sports. We brought up the movie money ball Did you ever get a chance to go watch that cell? Yeah, money ball No, I really want you to to watch it because this story Wouldn't have probably the worst person to tell to do something. I don't know what it is I just yeah, I know if I don't I try to trick you most of times No, you got to do is throw like a magazine or like some like article out on the table and then some oh, I've saw this article Just invite me over and play it and then I'll watch it Maybe so what's going on is the guy that whole movie is about is Billy Bean Billy Bean is famous in the sports world, especially in the baseball world because he was the beginning of this new era of Really breaking down the the analytics of players that were coming in for example He figured he figured out like okay with a smaller budget We would go by players that nobody knows who they are But if I break down like mathematically how often this guy gets on base I could put him in this role or I break down how often this guy hits home Analytic-based yes, and he would get rid of players that were peaking and they're most valuable So he could actually then now reinvest into the team and so he would like it was it's kind of ruthless But it's very mathematical and it's very logical sounds like a business. It's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant killing it It's it's for winning the World Series. It's yeah for as if you look at a as a a franchise as a Business model is mostly owners and people that are dealing with the money do The athletics are one of the most profitable teams in sports and have been since he's arrived now because of that They locked him up for years like he's athletic guy. His contract is up in one year Oh, because he flirted for a minute for going to the Boston Red Sox, right? Right, and then they ended up adopting his system and winning That's and that's when they locked it they ended up locking him up for them I mean 10 or 15 years I don't remember how long the contract was and that contract is up in a year So the reason why I'm bringing this up right now is when you have big time people like that They normally sign their new contract well before a year So because it's hit the one year mark and there's been no conversation on it now The big rumor all is that he's gone for sure and so the question going right so the in sports right now This is like a big deal. It's a really big deal because this guy much of these guys typically get paid are they hype are they Paid as much as players. Oh, no, they're not paid as much as a superstar player But he makes good money now Billy Bean also negotiated part of the a so he has part ownership of them in his contract So he makes a lot of money, which means they're gonna have to how's he gonna? How's that gonna work if he works for another team? They'll have to buy him out they have to right they have to yeah because it would be conflict of interest for him to go for another Team and be be doing that yeah And like how do they work that out as far as evaluating the worth? You know and like because they'd have to like project it out like at least what 10 years or something well The rumor is that I mean he's he's so sought after that he could pretty much get a job anywhere and name his price For his position, so he'll get the top dollar for whatever is getting paid for his position. Mm-hmm for any team because He's been handcuffed this entire team They have only a lot like there's the Yankees the Dodgers the Giants like all your big-name teams like they spend money like they They'll go out and buy a big player if they feel like even though they still are they use analytics But they still will go buy big names Well, I speculate that he would probably want to go to a team that's like hasn't like has been shitty just like if so We can show him so you can show yeah You can show a system like it has been proof if I was Billy Bean and I wanted to like go somewhere else I would want to go somewhere where it was like that makes sense because then you're really building a legacy He's kind of built one already. He's already famous. He has yeah. He's already imagine if he did it again Yeah, I don't think I think it's just a lot of I mean I don't know the guy person. So we're obviously worked. We're totally speculated, but I don't think that he cares I think what would get him more is actually staying in the Bay Area You know like so the rumor is that there's a chance you go to the Giants, right? So damn it Yeah, they need any help. Yeah, that's what's exciting Right right that a team like the Giants will pick him up with you know What the already the pieces that we have in place and so we might move in that direction So I'm excited that that's a possibility that might happen regardless if the Giants get him or not It's big news and sports right now to see where this guy ends up landing because of What he was what he's been able to do with one of the smallest well doesn't the Giants budgets Well, the Giants has got some superstars right, but aren't they kind of known for playing like that Yeah, we developed a lot of our players So that's they so during the Bruce Bochie era, you know, who's known as like a player's coach They know some stuff I think it's a red Buster Posey he was You know the key is those that know Justin up with an out get cocky and not to keep Like yeah, you know when he scored that three-pointer that was crazy Oh shit, we're done baseball Anyway, are you there my early team the money like your tan dude You know what I don't know we're well We were out this this last weekend for the graduation. So I was outside. I got like a farmer's tan going on Yeah, not like oh Justin over here already lost this color. No, well, he went he went back to white Yeah, he was that red he went red to like yeah light lighter white to back to white I will say this Justin your hair is amazing. It is it's like a It's almost all silver now. You know, I mean it's getting there. What was your natural hair color? It was like it was dark brown, but I mean at one point. It was like almost black and really yeah Did you really I looked awesome. Yeah, I looked awesome. Thank you very much. Yeah, whatever like you don't know anything No, I like it like that was when I used to do the pompadour thing and I was like I thought I was like all rock ability, you know, like A little soul patch and then greased my hair back But yeah, I went through like a bunch of phases my hair was weird like when I when I was younger It was blonde and it was straight and so it looked like a mop And I looked like a total surfer kid and then I went from that to this weird phase when when I hit puberty Where it was like it got curly and it was like light brown And then after that it got it got kind of straight and wavy and then it was darker It's it's like this weird evolution. Dude. I went through like all the different how about the picture he posted Well, he was wearing the exact same outfit as That was junior high too. I was like But in your defense though, and I've been saying this for a while now like right now the things that are Becoming popular again Like I remember doing all this in junior high and early years of high school like that in some of these trends I love like the tall socks like that's awesome. Like that was a that was a total fad. I'm just happy because it's like I don't have to change Yeah, you're starting to look back in style. It's like a broken clock. You know, I mean I've never changed Fair I've proved it But you know the gray hair looks good and it's you know back in the day men used to Color their hair to look white and gray. Really? Yeah powdered wigs, dude That was a big thing back in the day because it made you look, you know And distinguish and whatever It was a big thing because of syphilis or something. What? Yeah It was some kind of because of something like where your hair fell out I don't know what what it was some kind of std. Look it up. Doug. I'm not I'm not bullshitting really Yes, that was like the the start of why they started wearing wigs and then it was popular Yeah, but it but the white hair was a big thing like having white hair started because of syphilis That's going to be hilarious. I've ever heard seriously. Yeah Pull that up. That's a random but bald bald and or gray hair for in many ancient cultures were sought after It was in fact some cultures would shave the top of their head to look like they were bald on the top And I think it was some Yeah, Asian cultures would do that where they would shave the top to make it look like you're full of more wisdom Right because it's true. I would totally shave my head bald. I've got a really nice round head But I have psoriasis all over it now. So it would look all weird You would look like the alien like continents. You know, you'd look like the remember that What was that show? That that tv series where one dude was an alien. There were cops One guy was an alien one guy wasn't And the alien people like drinking sour milk. Remember that? Oh my god What's that dude? So you'd look like that guy because remember their skin was kind of like Yeah, it was like mckayl goberchoff on his head everywhere So you look at jessons, right? Yeah, so Yeah syphilis by 19 by 1580 the std had become the worst epidemic to strike europe since the black plague Wow so knowledge bombs So they got open source nasty rashes blind list dementia dementia and patchy Hair loss god, you imagine that now because you because you were dirty. Yeah, you know, I mean What a what a price to pay gotta keep it in your pants Yeah, what a price to pay who knows though, but back then life was probably pretty tough So you're like fuck it You know what I mean? I'll just wear a wig just roll the dice and see what happens Dude, what were you saying about the outie? CEO, do you hear about this? No, he he just got popped for I guess being tied into you know that whole conspiracy or well not conspiracy the whole diesel thing They took down the diesel. Oh, yeah. Yeah jail. They manipulated the software. Yeah, so he's he's in jail Jail because he's connected. He's tied in with that whole like shenanigan like he knew it was going on They didn't just now surface now. No, I think they've been I think that's they've been investigated. Yeah Since that dirty money thing or is it I think that probably yeah, probably put more pressure. I'm sure What's what's he looking at? Obviously they haven't since sentenced him. Yeah, I'm sure I don't know but he's going through Jail though, huh? That's crazy. Yeah, how old though? I mean, this is this brings me back to my whole bill cosby theory, you know Some of these guys might give up give up just say fuck it. Yeah. No, I'm serious Like I mean, I know people now that are in their 60s seven years Oh wow Wow You know This is like can I tell you what irritates me a little bit about this not that he's getting jail time? Well, that's the vw exact the outie one. Oh the outie one. Yeah. Yeah, he he just recently got Sentenced well, but even that was just December of 2017. That was just not that long You know, it makes me you know, it makes me mad about that right above it The top one's outie barely anybody went to jail for that whole like, you know The whole banking fiasco that we had in 2000. What was that one of the biggest gangster moves? Yeah, and instead they got money. They got taxpayer money. That's what it would taste the shit out of me Throwing those fuckers in jail. Wow. This is crazy. Yeah, they're all going down. Yeah Did you guys check out that the documentary the evil genius one that I was telling you guys? You told me the stairway, right? Yeah, the stairway is the next one that I'm I'm gonna be watching that next Oh, you haven't seen it yet. You haven't seen the stairway one yet because it recommended that one after I watched the evil genius I've heard nothing but good stuff about that one too. It's like a really like it has a lot of twists You know, like you think you know, like it's it's kind of like making a murder You don't really know at the end of at the end of the day if like is he guilty? Is he not guilty? I mean you could go either way It's fascinating to me how unique we all are as humans how we have certain things that like you can be an Absolute genius, but then you can have like no common sense. Yeah, like and there's intelligence and integrity It can be totally two separate things. So some of the people with the worst and in fact Sometimes being highly intelligent makes you believe that you can you don't need to have this Yeah, or you know better than people or you know, I'm so smart that I can get away with whatever or you're narcissistic because of it And so it actually may fuel Lack of integrity and we see that some of the some of the people that rip I wonder if I wonder if that's more common than not I wonder if it's more common when you get to like that level of an IQ that because you're that way You're more tempted to manipulate and to take advantage of others. Therefore. There's a higher percentage of I think they're easier They get more frustrated with people, you know, because like they They they assume everybody's gonna understand on their level and then it's like They're communication skills are probably not as intelligence is actually correlated with Mental dysfunction lots of different mental issues. It's actually strongly correlated and it's We're not quite sure why I mean, it's correlated with depression anxiety schizophrenia Um and other types of learning, uh, you know challenges or whatever like dyslexia and all that stuff And they they think it might be if you're considered intelligent, right? It means that you're You're smarter than the average person because humans are intelligent species But if you're an intelligent human compared to your your peers You probably your brain probably processes a little differently or you think a little differently Which increases the likelihood that you may have dysfunction as well. You know I'm saying so So there's there's there's always that kind of stuff. It's kind of kind of weird. Dude. I was reading this article on This is an article that was just published uh today and it says how the secret to a longer life Is at your feet? They're actually starting to write articles about how important Foot strength is for longevity. You know, it's it's funny how far we made it into fitness And and not like really paying any attention to that Looking back now the the amount of knowledge that we've accumulated just in the last three and a half four years And hanging out with brink and really putting a lot of focus and emphasis on my feet And it's it's crazy now if I meet somebody and I'm assessing them or I'm helping them out with anything Mechanically with them they have any aches pains anything at all any part of their body The very first place now that I address is your foot like I was looking at your feet And I can't believe that that was something that I was missing For so many years because nobody ever really talked about that. Well, so there was a there was a study in 2009 So it's not that long. I mean Sure, it's a little while ago. Maybe nine years ago, but that's still not that long ago That was published in the Journal of Clinical Biomechanics that Showed that the weaker certain foot muscles were the more likely people were to have a fall and to have injury And then in 2015 in the british journal of sports medicine They started referring to the foot core So we know of the core muscles of the midsection But they also talk about the core muscles of the foot which are if you if you think of the foot if you were to look at a Foot and can imagine it to be like a like your torso Right the muscles in the middle of the foot that connect the front and the back and help it communicate and stay stable Basically how you can do like short foot and do that whole yeah, that is the core So and it's no if you're weak if your foot core is weak It's not that different than having a core that's weak in your midsection In which sense you're going to increase your risk of crunches, bro Yeah, increase your risk of injury Yeah And when your foot is because that's the first thing to contact the floor when that is dysfunctional The dysfunction travels up the kinetic shank because something has to make up for that dysfunction Well, it's amazing when you look at the way the evolution of shoes like You know before we walked around barefoot everywhere, right and then eventually we we moved to these You know pieces of leather, you know with some hay at them like wrapped around your feet And that was like the the extent of cushion. You're still pretty much walking on the on the ground It was basically there just to protect from any sharp objects or anything that could probably cut you to like, you know these Super cushion soft soles to now women and high six inch high heels all the time. Yeah One of the most dysfunctional things we that people do to themselves is wear heels By far Even the heels you have on right now, Adam Yeah, I know Because these are just running shoes, right? But if you look at them your foot is at a slope right and even that is is creating a pattern Especially if you walk around them all day I'd say easily easily by far the most dysfunctional thing in modern humans is our feet because that's the first Thing that we cover and cast right it's the contact point, you know to all movement really I mean like all the gravitational forces everything it all You know stems around what the feet like how they handle that well think of the also the brain like You know they show that when we exercise and move That the brain lights up we we increase bdnf which is this this This you know brain-derived neurotropic factor that increases growth of new neurons and nerve cells and all that stuff And the and all these connections are made because your brain needs these connections to Move your body in space improve proprioception and to process sensation, right? Well, the bottom of your foot is Super highly concentrated with nerve endings. It's the most in the body, right? Maybe that's why I'm so like the hands right like the hands I believe I believe the feet are the most it might be it might be or it's like the hands Right because because maybe maybe less than the hands because the hands are required to We use our hands so much in tool making and stuff Yeah, but we have more we have more bones in our feet than we have in our hands Yeah, so but there's a ton, right? There's I mean nonetheless There's a ton of nerve endings and from the day you can walk until you die You're almost always covering your foot with something Not developing the the brain neural pathways that are required to process that sensory Which is why most people modern people if you take our shoes off and we walk on Like just on gravel, which is not going to cut your feet. It's like You know, it's like sensory overload It'd be no different than living in a dark room and then going out in the sunlight you can't you can't process at all Well, and I think the part that I I can't believe how long I neglected it as a personal trainer is to realize How much of people's knee pain hip pain shoulder pain back pain affects your whole kinetic chain Yeah, it's it's all stimming from the foot I mean if you have just the slightest bit of any sort of Pro-nation or inversion or eversion going on in your foot just the slightest bit just walk up You see compensation. Yeah, it pings back and forth up your up your body all the way up the kinetic chain Like jesson was saying and I not very many people know to even think of that like you have knee pain You you think you have bad knees, right? That's what every client thinks they go Oh, my knees are really achy and bad. I have bad knees like no You don't have bad knees what you have is you have some dysfunction more than likely The dysfunction is stimming from the foot. It's and it's and it's right Causing the pain no different than like if you have a car and you look at the tires And there's like a lot of wear on one side of the tires. You don't have a tire problem You have something else that's causing a lineman issue. It might be a lineman issue It might be your shocks. It might be something like that, right? Yeah, so it's no different than that So it's really not a knee issue. Yeah, your knee hurts, but there's something else that's causing That dysfunction and we tend to forget that with like bunions and you can see that with calluses In the way that you know, you you apply pressure if like I'm always putting pressure on my pinky toe Or I'm always putting pressure on my big toe. It's like you can you can just just take a second and look at that Do you know how many people see that? You know how many people's feet will have like their pinky dough doesn't even touch the floor Yeah, that's actually quite common Well, relax and their foot's relaxed and the pinky doesn't even touch the floor Oh, yeah, I mean that's just that is supposed to touch the floor But it doesn't because you're All toes toes are smashed together so much that one's later over the top of them Have you ever looked at pictures of LeBron James feet some of those guys? Yeah, we pulled them up here That is some that is some crazy. Yeah, no no for sure. Especially those guys with big feet And that's the thing too is people see these athletes and they think they're a super athlete So they're they're okay, but that's why there's so much dysfunction even in them That's why most of them end up with so much back pain and all kinds of issues later on in their life Is because they've learned to compensate with that for so many years, but they've never really addressed any of it Something else too. I wanted to talk about and I don't think we talked about this on the podcast I think I might have brought it up off air. So stop me if I have but I was reading this this study on multiple personality disorder And it blew me away So you guys familiar with that with that psychiatric disorder and what that is You guys know what that is not familiar as like I I've had a client of it. Yeah, but I know You could change your personality on on a whim Yeah, so essentially it usually comes from severe trauma And we're not quite sure how it happens, but we think what people what happens in the psyche of someone Is they create separate identities Within themselves to handle different situations. So like someone was let's say severely abused. They may create an altar You know personality or identity who is there for the abuse so they can step out and not not attend it or whatever, right? So there's lots of theories as to why it happens, but it's a it's a real Identifiable psychiatric condition and their actual identity. It's like literally Somebody a man a grown man can have an identity That's a five-year-old girl or that is a woman or that is Whatever and they believe it and they act it out and that's who they are predominantly a protective mechanism. Like that's what they say that's what they think and Sometimes they're aware of the other identities. So they know like, oh, you know John did this yesterday or whatever and sometimes they're not aware There's actually being cases where people have this multiple personality disorder Well, they don't even know they just they don't know that another side of them came out Which is even harder to deal with but anyway It's always it's always been like kind of controversial Is this like a real identity? Do they really believe this what's going on? And since we've you know invented uh fmri machines, which are mri machines can image blood patterns in the brain And can do it in real time So we can see what parts of the brain are lighting up when we play a particular song when you have a particular thought Whatever and we can see where you know what's going on And it's in real time. And so what they did is they took this they took these people Who had multiple personality disorder put them in this fmri machine and watched what happened When they would switch identities. Well, there was this woman who had two identity She had like several identities. It was like 10 identities. I think Two of which and this has been observed in other people as well two of which These identities were blind so she could see she had functioning eyes But two of the identities she would go into this identity and she couldn't see she was blind The fr fmri machine captured what was going on with her brain when she would switch into this blind identity The part of the brain that processes vision off turned off shut it off completely turned off So she was essentially That we have the ability to potentially do that that's what's fascinating to me That's that's exactly what's blowing me away because She believes so wholeheartedly that she was blind in this identity or this identity was blind that literally the part of her brain That processes sight was turned off. So she was effectively blind. Wow I mean think of the applications of that to You know everything, you know everything we do because we try so hard to separate the The subjective from the objective the the the mental and the psychological from the physical But you can't it's all totally connected And it's all influences one influences the other. I mean you could have a physical issue You think in our lifetime we're going to learn to tap into these things Do you think we're going to what we're at right now with science? Do you think we're going to have the ability to either one? Supplement or use a tool or a machine to train ourselves to be able to tap into this I I think it is the ultimate That is the ultimate horizon That is the ultimate place to to explore With the human psyche because if we can do that Then we can cure pretty much any issue. I mean think about it if we could figure that out We could cure alcoholism addiction. We could cure bad habits You could literally go in there and be like look I need to change my viewpoint on This situation life or I need to become more conscientious because I'm lazy Or I need to learn how to save more money or whatever And you could go through therapy and and really figure this out Wow I mean it reminds me a lot of the work that I saw you know with wim Hof and being able to tap into the autonomic system As far as like you know muscles that just are involuntary But you know you can actually like through meditative practices and breathing and you know Like cold immersion and all these things you can actually start to tap into Really being able to like control your temperature. Yeah your temperature your heart beats everything Doug would you look this up because I know I I know I've heard the number four I don't want to mess it up. I know monks. I know they have the ability to some Tibetan monks Yes, have the ability to change their core temperature at will up to like seven or ten degrees or something They've actually done where they'll go out into the snow and they'll meditate and they'll put wet towels on their body in the snow They'll meditate elevate their body temperature so much. They dry the towels 17 degrees 17 dude, that is a lot Think about that if you're in a place that's you know 20 30 degrees freezing cold and to be able to jump up 17 degrees is nuts to me. There's skin temperature 17 degrees which is massive 17 degrees is just a lot of room to learn more about Our body and our mind and our psyche especially. Yeah, that's well. Here's what I here's the thing too because human You can generally say that humans learn in two different ways one is The one that all of us most of us learn through which is a slow Gradual process right I learn little by little by little and it takes me years and years and years of practice and awareness to make these big fundamental changes to where you get a Tibetan monk who's been meditating for 30 years and it's a drastic change, but within that 30 year period. It was small incremental Non-perceptible changes right it just took a long time But then there's another way that humans learn Which you could call epiphanies for example or there's an actual western medicine term for and I can't remember it is Where something happens and boom were different, but that usually happens from a dramatic Maybe trauma or event that happened right at you know that that really shifted your your way of thinking for example You could have someone as an alcoholic And let's say they go out in the car one day drunk and then they hit a kid and kill a kid That could be enough to create that epiphany where they change forever, right? I think We're starting to tap into that with a soul side in psychedelic medicines And i'm i'm not basing this off of personal experience. I'm basing this is not just my opinion I'm basing this off of the science that's coming out because like the science that they came out with with ptsd Where ptsd could take decades to get people to kind of come out of it And some of the science with like what they're doing silo-silo treatment treatment or mdma treatment It's like two two therapy sessions and they're cured and they'll come test them a year or two years later Well, this is this is also how I I interpret the the bible verse where they talk about you If you have as much faith as a mustard seed you could move mountains And so I really believe that it that's the first feat is for us to even believe that to have enough faith And belief that we can do these types of things with our brain and our mind And if we the problem is that we just don't think we can And if you have literally like the matrix like neo remember when you had to jump off the building But he had to believe that he could right you know i'm saying it's it's literally like that And it's it's really weird the more we start to to do this dive deeper into this science It's crazy like that like the study I bring up all the time where they did the fake knee surgery And they're like oh my knee feels better, but they didn't do anything Yeah, they didn't even cut people open and they had like dramatic results It's crazy equivalent to the actual knee surgery like they compared it to people who got knee surgery And they had the same that doesn't prove your mind is powerful like I can't like pinpoint anything else Well perception is obviously everything, but I think it might even go beyond that I mean think about it like If your body was really under your control could you technically tell your cells to like kill a cancer tumor Or heal your heart or you know grow back a limb. I mean, I don't know. I mean this all sounds crazy, but well what What bacteria is it that that um That people will eat and then they'll get really sick right like salmonella So they injected salmonella in in a few of the wim Hof Like practitioners, I'll try to remember reading and he's actually they've proven scientifically that by Um, you know tapping into you know the breathing out on autonomic system They're able to like manipulate their immune system to fight and battle it and then came out Scott free whereas, you know somebody didn't apply these practices got really really sick. Yeah, I I do I really do think that That psychedelics may just from the science that I've seen And I don't mean you take this and then you get you know, you figure it out for yourself I think they're powerful tools. I think you do the opposite too. You could use them and then come out way worse But I think the the the way we're studying them. They may hold Some of the keys to to that kind of treatment because they work on that on that level on that psychological level to the point where I mean, I was watching this. I was watching a documentary on this and this this is like this a woman who Whose best friend died from uh, you know, it was a terminal disease and she was just absolutely Completely devastated could not go to work. Whatever Did therapy didn't work then she found this this licensed therapist who also on the side did Uh treatments with mdma kind of you know, obviously black market But did it because she found it so so successful Went and had a treatment and though after they interviewed the woman afterwards and she's like I I feel completely different. She's like I I'm not being able to reach this point at all with anything else I've ever done. She's like I feel like I'm cured after one treatment You know it might be enough just to well. Yeah, it's why hypnosis works for some people Yeah, you know, some people swear by it like I swear I could not quit smoking for the life of me I was hypnotized and then I well so from a physical basis I don't I got to find this this article because I think I sent it to you Justin they actually show physically where the brain under the influence of Some of these psychedelics actually restructures itself physically they can actually see neurons changing connecting and making different connections to Permanently or just to change itself from what a depressed brain looks like to brain. That's not depressed They can actually create new pathways actually Restructure itself, you know or become more plastic in the sense where it starts to restructure itself So I think that we may start to tap into some of this stuff Uh in the in the future or or at least it's gonna revolutionize how effective therapy can be that's that's my it'll be interesting I know you're you you're on that wagon. I don't know if I'm all the way there yet If I believe that that's gonna if we're going to I just wonder I know that as humans We tend to fuck everything good up, you know, I'm saying we take something that we take We take something that's some that's good good. Give it information good research good science And then we end it we end up bastardizing it for sure Yeah, there's the article psychedelics could help treat depression by physically restructuring The brain restructuring. I mean, you know, here's a deal look if you believe in a higher power Or you believe that that you know That we're not alone or whatever it's not hard to think that certain things were placed on earth For a particular purpose. I mean every effective medicine plant. Yeah, I mean We I mean it's we found lots of just misusing them or partying with them You know, right? That's what I mean by the man man ends up screwing it all up Right. I mean it was probably was potentially put that name thing with name one thing with a lot of power That doesn't have massive potential for abuse Right, you can't For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge Try organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi dot com and use a coupon code mind pump for 20 off at checkout All right, our first question is from pete pitbull fitness diving life. That's it That's an instagram handle, right short name short name You know, how matter you at your friends that do that that have like a long ass name I'm like, you know why I don't follow you bro because I can't remember your freaking instagram handles way too many words And we just keep it at pete. Yeah As a trainer it can sometimes be tough to practice what you preach What are your tips for holding yourself accountable and living by what you teach? Hmm get some judgmental friends. Thank you. I was just I was just gonna say that I was literally just gonna say that. Yes If you think that you by yourself are aware enough to check yourself You are fooled you are a fool because your ego yourself all your your ego is so insidious and so clever It is literally how you identify with this is why that I mean the five people you surround yourself with are so important Not just on like a financial level, but things like this is where it starts to bleed over and if you Are always hanging out with people that just don't value Health and fitness you're gonna end up doing the things they like to do which is drinking smoking and doing things that are not Serving their body and taking care of themselves So even if you are this fitness guru if you're constantly hanging around them all the time It's going to be really tough for you to do that. I mean you've got to be a rock star to be able to do The way I look at it is is I Number one surround yourself with people who actually Who actually want to see you do well or do better right? They have your interest in mind, but they're also not going to be as you know Right, you don't want to surround yourself with people who don't and how do you know that? Well, if something bad happens to you they're upset and if something good happens to you They're very happy for you like genuinely. So now you know that they're they have good intentions Also, make sure that they're relatively intelligent that you respect them And then when they tell you something about you that you're doing wrong Uh, believe them that that's a tough one because you you want to defend yourself right away But you know if because it stings it does sometimes especially Yeah, and you're like, oh, there's some truth in that like but you want to deny it You know and you want to keep going about your ways that you've been going But yeah, you need you need to really be open to that Yeah, open to be at the Chris's I think this happens a lot with couples too Where you're dating someone you really respect and care about and then they come to you honestly and they're like Hey, you're acting like a jerk right now or you know, you're being a little lazy right now And you want to defend yourself you want to fight like sometimes just stop and you know You feel the urge to defend yourself like kind of hold it a little bit and say, okay Maybe they're right. Maybe maybe I need to take what they're taking seriously This is a really tough thing for a lot of people to deal with I mean I've shared on the show many times this transition of You know the people that maybe you you grew up around and that were good friends for whatever reason Maybe there was something when you were in high school that bonded you guys together And so you're really tight But as you grow and you get older and you evolve and your values and your morals and your beliefs start to change And really form who you are you have to always be reevaluating your circle and your network of people that you're hanging out with Because they are your directive influence. What's that stupid saying that birds of a feather flock together or whatever? Right, so I mean if you if you're somebody who Really value and that's something you got to gut check yourself and ask yourself. Do you really value this? Do do you really care about health and fitness that much that it's that important to you? If it is Then you do want to be surrounding yourself people that that are doing that and they're not gonna I know justin came out with the fine judgmental friends But if you have friends that value health and fitness, it won't need it won't need to be a judging thing It won't be a like, oh, you're doing this and I'm not and I'm doing that It's that they're going to be doing things of interest that are similar because they have similar values and morals So I think that is something that you have to really dig deep and is one ask yourself You need to first check yourself on your own personal values Yeah, well like you're aspiring to be like these people around you You know like I see what they're like if they're living their life a certain way like whether it's health and fitness related You know spiritually whatever it is these things that you can pull from like I want to surround myself with people are better than me Uh that I see like I see deficiencies in in how I am and so these people just being around them But that's not what's normal. What's normal is we're drawn to our insecurities. What's normal is uh, we want confirmation So that we don't have to change right. Yeah, we want to be the best in the group Exactly We want to be that we want to be the healthy one of the group because then when we go decide to go eat shitty food and do Things that's not healthy for a body. I still feel better because you know what my four other friends They're way out of shape. I didn't after a while. I live with some fat. I mean, I think everybody does I think it's I think it's very natural lean guy. He was it was nice Nice, you know, I was prime meat back then No, it's true though I we tend to gravitate toward that and that again, that's our insecurities That's us wanting to Feel better about ourselves because it's an area that we need to work on and we don't want to address it Therefore we hand we surround ourselves with people that we're better than in that area instead of stretching our Capacity and surrounding ourselves with people that maybe are selling in these areas in our life that we want to be better I take it even a step further because Again, if you have people around you that you respect and value and they know that they value and respect you And that they want what's best for you It's still hard. Sometimes you'll do some things to yourself that are That are self-sabotaging self-sabotaging not beneficial You know, let's say you smoke too much or let's say you're you know, you're you're not eating healthy Or let's say you're you're treating your spouse a certain way or something that you Objectively if you had to be totally honest, you know, like that's probably not the best But you lie to yourself because that's what we do and we do a very effective job of it of it And your friend comes to you and says, hey man You know the way you're you're treating your spouse or the way you're eating or whatever It's not good man. It's not good for you. You're you're your Instinct is to defend yourself But knowing that this is a person you respect like look my co-host We'll talk about adam justin and we'll talk about dug the producer. I respect these guys I respect them tremendously very very much. I respect them so much that they could come say something to me That about me that I know I'll try to defend But afterwards I'll think to myself and be like would You know justin say something like that just to just to say it or is he the kind of person I respect? I would only say it because he meant it and he was being honest Well, I know objectively. He is an honest person. So I'm gonna believe What he's saying I'm gonna start to try to believe what he's saying And I don't mean you just listen to what people say to you. You have to be very careful with Who you surround yourself with and whose advice you take because you also don't want to be a A follower and do what everybody tells you all the time But I tell you something right now the worst shit you do in your life is the shit that you lie to yourself about It's never the stuff you're aware of or you're fully aware of because otherwise you wouldn't be the only reason Why I'm wary about that advice is because a lot of people don't realize the people that they're with are unhealthy for them And so a lot of times these people that are around them the advice that they're giving is a reflection of their insecurities For example, justin points something out at you because he's insecure about it You know, you know sal when we showed up to that place, you know, I felt like you were totally, you know, ignoring me And you know, I'm saying he's giving you and that's really his insecurity because he can't be by himself Typical You know, I'm saying like that would obviously that would not happen with this relationship Yeah relationship that we have but a lot of times the people that you're surrounding yourself with You're unaware of how just just how unhealthy the relationship is and then you're giving advice that okay if they they then Provide you with feedback on you Really, that's a reflection of their insecurity because you're surrounding yourself with the wrong people. That's right That's yeah, that's step number one like again Do these people that you surround yourself with really want like imagine if you went to the people like imagine If you you went to the group of people around you And you said to them my business exploded yesterday and I'm a millionaire Would these people be jealous would they be happy for you genuinely would they be would they want something from you? What if you went to some of these people and you said something wrong happened something bad happened to you Would they care to help would they care that you were upset to try and help you or would they kind of Be happy. I mean, I've had people around me in the past where if I fail that a business venture I could almost sense that they Not necessarily happy, but just that it confirmed in them that oh taking risks like that. It's kind of bad So versus people who may be like, oh man, that's terrible like let me see how I can help you out Like you have to find those kind of people around you and then Be able to respect what they say to you and that's that's such a I think you have to define you have to define your values First you have to define what are your core values and what what really matters to you And then you have to look for people that exemplify those areas Of your values. So for example, I'll use you to as an example for me, right? So at one point I will be a father, right? And so I really I look at you guys and I go like I love talking to you guys I love when you express and share stories about that because I I think the way you handle your parenting is incredible doesn't mean you're perfect But you're far better than I am at that and I and I look up to you in that area That's important to me and that's because that's an important value that I know that it'll be very important to me When I raise my child and so I I want to surround myself with other men that take a lot of pride And being a great father and that doesn't and if you guys weren't great fathers It wouldn't take from other other attributes that you guys are also selling up But that's an important value of mine that I have to find in somebody else And I I have found that within you So I think it's important that you first define the things that are extremely important to you And then you surround yourself with others that exemplify that in one way or another and and each friend may May have something different like so, you know, maybe you're somebody who is has a spiritual background And so I want somebody that excels in that so I get that I you feel you fuel that fire for me And then maybe Justin has got this he's super business savvy on a whole another level that I can totally learn from him And so he fuels that fire for me And so there doesn't need to be any of this communication of you need to do this or finger pointing or judging stuff You're finding mentors. Yeah, exactly You're finding mentors within your own circle in areas that you that are important in life What most people are not doing that instead? They're surrounding themselves with people that represent The other side of you the side that isn't that's unhealthy. That's lazy or that makes bad decisions That makes you feel good because you know what? Oh, they're they're doing worse than I am in that area So at least I'm okay. It's something that subconsciously happens to a lot of people less challenging Well, if we it's comfortable to surround yourself with people that keep you help you not grow or at least make it comfortable To not grow, you know, I mean like if you're just a degenerate and you have a bunch of degenerate friends It's going to make it comfortable more comfortable for you to be a degenerate Well, imagine if you were a degenerate, but all your friends were Conscientious hard-working intelligent people. Yeah, it's going to be a little uncomfortable It may force you to have to try to grow it will force growth Right, right if you try to stick around right right if you're the degenerate and you're surrounded by four people That are not like you will level up to them if you're it's the other way around If you're the stud in the group if you're the one that is grounded really well And then you're with four degenerates you'll come down to their level and you'll never grow It's like, uh, you know, john c maxwell talks about this in the leadership laws You know, if you're a if it's a scale of one to ten ten being you're a great leader one You're terrible if you're a seven on the leadership scale You will never surpass that without hanging around eights and nines and tens If you are constantly hanging around sixes and fives as far as their leadership The abilities you'll never get beyond that you'll be stuck at that level and that's what happens It's like with anything it's like with sports or like jujitsu like if you if you're a Purple belt level you ain't gonna get to black belt unless you roll with black belts You just roll a bunch of blue belts who are worse than you You'll never really get that much better. You have to hang around with people who can push you to grow Which when you make these points, this is what's really tough for all of us Is to be okay My mom says this a lot we'll plug her since she's here right now is that the seasons of your life being Being comfortable and okay with these seasons of your lives and knowing that and this was tough for me for a very long time With certain friends, you know, I would create these bonds with people that provided a certain value in my life And and a lot of times what would happen is I would outgrow them I would outgrow them and it was time for me to move beyond or move into another season of my life But I was stuck in that season. I want to stay in summer I don't want winter to come up because winter means I got to change It means I got to grow it's going to be uncomfortable And so this happens to people is they they meet their network of people They become attached to that they stay in that season forever and they don't learn to evolve on it You know, that's a common uh, this common thing these days with with men. They call it peter pan syndrome where guys Don't want to They don't want to get responsible that you just used the peter pan thing. Yeah. Yeah one of the subtle jab right there But but you know, it's been it's been talked about quite a bit recently because Even dr. Molly brought up. Yeah all these guys in the silicon valley that live like in house and they just you know, every Like nobody wants to it's it's it's men in their typically in their 30s who Want to stay young they want to be they don't want to grow up. They don't want to claim responsibility They don't want to get married. They don't want to have kids. They don't want to you know, uh Make investments that we're going to scrown them. They just want to be a young kid and do want to be a pirate Yeah, and it's because they have they don't search for gold. Yeah, they don't have a pleasure The biological clock that doesn't that doesn't go off on them like it does on women So you see this more common in men and uh, you know, again, how do you hold yourself accountable? I mean, you know, it's a great way to hold yourself accountable And this isn't for everybody obviously, but for me, I can see his podcasting Are you kidding me when I listen to episodes and hear how I talk in my opinions I can be objective and hear what I'm saying and be like, oh, shit. I sound like an asshole right there Oh, that's a good point or that's a bad point and it really changes how I start to think About certain things that's a recording feedback from other people. That's right. Yeah on on, uh, you know, social media So that's crazy. Next up is a fit story You guys have talked about increasing calories to rev up your metabolism But a lot of people have a real fear of consuming more calories How would you recommend helping people overcome this fear? You know, this is something that, um Poor Jessica, man. I just keep I keep bringing her up a lot I just a lot of the questions you guys are asking lately is Relates to this is why I still do a little online coaching because it's it's good to be able to work with people It is it gives and it gives me a place that I can reference for this perspective To give you guys kind of an analogy of what's what she's going through right now And you know, when she first came over here for help You know, she's competed. She's been in great shape She's been as low as 125 130 pounds and she's now walking around at 168 And she comes to me like Adam. I'm the worst shape I've ever been in my life You've got to help me get rid of this and when I evaluate her metabolism So what I do always is I track and see where she's eating how she's moving And so that's about a week or two of me kind of calibrating where she's currently at and what happened was I realized Holy shit. This girl is 168 pounds. She's 13 she's 1300 to 1500 calories anything over that she gains weight So she eats 1600 calories and she puts body fat on like what a frustrating position to be in especially for a 170 pound female and then to top it off Then you you pay a guy like me money and then I turn around and say hey I'm gonna have you eat more eat more calories will probably gain some weight And she looks at you kind of sideways and goes like no, I hired you to lose weight This is not what I want to do now. Luckily I have a long-term relationship with With her she knows me and she and she trusts me So we're on like and I think we're up to eight eight weeks now And I've been slowly increasing her calories and we are up. I've pushed as high as she's been up to 171 pounds So in seven weeks of training consistently being strict on a diet tracking everything for me I'm inching her calories up now I know because I've been here many times with clients on how challenging this is mentally especially for my female clients to be able To do this. This is less hard for my men extremely difficult for for women It reminds me of when a guy comes and wants to build muscle and you're like we're gonna have to work on mobility for four months So you're not going to gain strength and gain muscle right in four months. It's similar, right? Right. So the first thing you need to be okay with and understand that this this is a process You didn't get in this situation overnight or even in four weeks or even in eight weeks or even in 12 weeks This has been years probably Probably of you yo yo yo dieting and not eating correctly So have a little patience and understand that we have to reverse out of this so And try and focus on something besides the damn scale and the way your pants and shit is fitting you That's the key right there. That's the big thing that I do strength is what I drive home So I strength how you feel in your workouts and and trying to connect those dots So, you know for us and it's been great and she's made this mental switch And it happened about three weeks in Where I said I don't want you really getting on the scale if I do I want it for me And it's only so I can kind of calibrate where you're going I'd not concerned about weight whatsoever, but I am concerned about You feeling stronger and you feeling fed I want you fed I don't want you go I don't want you hungry right now But I want us to make good nutritional choices when you are hungry and feeding you correctly Making sure your micro macronutrients are balanced And so I'm leading that and then I want to inch up your calories and while we're doing that All we're looking at as your gauge is your strength changes like how much is your deadlift coming up How much is your squat coming up how much is your overhead and because she has seen these these great gains in strength It's now happening now eight weeks and she's starting to feel it on her body She's like, you know, it's so weird out. I'm like my pants are fitting me worse than they've ever fed me I feel like I need to wear sweats But when I touch my body and when I look at myself naked The shape of my body Looks fine. I look better than what I I should for where I'm at weight And when I grab and I touch my muscles, they're they're hard and they're denser and even the way my butt is sitting It's not sagging. It's feels like it's even though I have fat on it And I'm not happy where my weight is the way it's sitting on my body feels different I said that's because we're building muscle. I asked her this. She's 30 something years old. I go Have you ever Started a workout regimen and a plan and not also Cut calories or tighten up your diet never in her life Most most people most women when they decide they're going to go on their kick to get in shape They start their they start exercise and they cut calories go to burn as many calories as possible and the worst thing You could do I get why this question keeps popping up And we've visited this specific topic probably the last like a couple weeks And it's because it's such a hard conversation to have with somebody coming in And especially as a trainer and trying to you know, get them to buy into that concept It's it's such a foreign animal, you know for a client because they all they see is I want weight to to disappear I want my clothes to fit better. I want all these tangible changes to happen But you know to to get them to understand they need to build And to to then you know really you know reframe that whole thought processes You have to it's a monster. It's like a mechanic if it's like a someone brings their car into me You gotta build trust It's like someone brings their race car into me and they go Adam wait we got you got to fix me my cars. I'm losing races I'm not winning anymore and I go okay Well, let me get under the hood and I pop underneath the hood and I go oh shit No wonder this thing isn't running fucking right. I mean your timing belt is off You got no oil on this your pistons are all rusted leaking cooling your tires are bald your alignment is off All these things are screwed up inside inside of you nothing that has anything to do with the speed yet of the car But it does have something to do with the speed You know, I could just tell you to floor it as hard as you possibly can to try and get there But everything starts to fall apart that way now if we take the time We fix all these pieces Inside of you then what happens it's effortless big block motor Oh, right it's it's effortless when you when you when you address all the things that are broken down with your metabolism And I think you just got a one you got to be patient with that two you change your focus It's no longer about the scale on the weight It's about building strength and building muscle because the more strength the more muscle you have The healthier of a metabolism and there's a range too. There's a range within your Current amount of muscle mass in terms of how many calories Your body will burn on a daily basis in other words You don't have to gain a shit ton of muscle and I want to say this because I know there's women listening We're like I don't want to gain 20 pounds of muscle to get my metabolism to speed up You know by a thousand calories You don't have to it may show up as like a few pounds on the scale But within that range there's actually a big amount of calories that your body can either burn more Or burn less of in other words you can even stay the same weight same lean body mass And get your metabolism to ramp up or slow down. This is the goal pretty much the goal This is the goal. That's what I try and do and because I also want to Keep her sane while she's going through this process Like I could care less if she goes up to 175 or 180 because I know what I'm doing I know I'm going to come back the other direction and we're we're but I know too for her sanity Yeah, psychologically my the where the real work comes in for me Is be able to watch it and give her just the right amount of Extra calories and increase her intensity so that she doesn't see much movement up or down on the scale But then when I go retest her body fat in a month There's a four percent reduction in body fat and a lot of people don't understand how to compute that what happens And what has happened is there's a perfect exchange It means that over four weeks our scale is stayed the same But she has lost four pounds of fat and she's added four pounds of muscle And so her body composition has changed her metabolism has changed, but her scale stayed the same And you know Give people different metrics, you know You have to give people different metrics to to keep track of Because the weight loss one is not the one that we're going to be looking at right now If all you focus on is weight loss, it's not you're going to have a very tough time Trying to amp up your metabolism because that's not going to happen for a little while So start to give people other metrics they can measure performance is a great one like adam said Strength, but I like to ask people about their energy their sleep their mood Their skin their mobility their endurance their stamina All that stuff and I'll ask them all these questions when I coach people we'll talk about these and I'll even tell sometimes I'll say look for the next three months. You're not going to step on a scale I don't want you to weigh yourself At all sometimes if they have a real problem Sometimes I'll have them weigh themselves and we'll do it once a week just so I can monitor what's going on But the main focus is on other metrics. How how are your deadlifts feeling? Oh, you're stronger. That's excellent How is your sleep? Oh, it's better. That's fantastic Is your libido healthier? That's fantastic. That's great. How's your joints? How's your body feeling because people want to it's natural, right? They want to feel like they're progressing at something and so if you get them to focus on and I experienced this myself when I First started training in jujitsu I my focus had always been on how big and strong I was that When I did jujitsu I had to focus on how well I did the techniques and how well I moved And it actually helped me break free from the whole You know insecurity about my body being a particular size because now I'm focusing on something else Well, look at what look what I just went through everybody knows it's been listening to this show for a long time Like what I've gone through hormonally how much my body has changed completely Imagine being a guy who's 230 pounds jacked to the gills and then coming all the way down to 208 210 pounds The psychological piece has been the most challenging piece of all of that And so what I've had to do to is not get not identify with this meat wagon to get identify with this Muscle-building guy it's to focus on other parts and other areas that I can improve on and you know my mobility I just hit huge that was such a big deal for me the other day would be able to do an overhead squat like that I've never been able to do that That's such a huge victory for me And then at the same time to be able to objectively look at myself and go like I'm also nowhere near in the best physical shape. I've ever been in my life nowhere near it But that's okay because I'm getting wins in other places So like you said saw I think learning to look at libido look at sleep Look at mood look at energy look at all those things those other those other aspects of your life And try and target those to improve upon. I think those those are excellent great idea Next question is from mary beth brown five. My mom is 60 and has been diagnosed with osteopenia She recently hired a trainer and has been lifting weights and working out consistently Last time she was at the doctor the nurse instructed her that she shouldn't be lifting weights and should only be walking Can weightlifting build bone density and someone over 60 with pre osteoporosis? If so, how should they be structuring their program? I love doctors like nurses like this. I cannot express how irritated I am over this over that that dumb ass nurse So here's the deal. I'll say this a hundred percent right now mark it down. It's all recorded and out Resistance training will be The number one form of exercise that will be recommended for all aging people in the near future Super crucial period because resistance training combats all the issues that happen with aging Directly and better than any other form of exercise including and especially bone density But you know, that's a ridiculous one if you have a so osteo osteopenia is before you get osteoporosis Nothing will make your bones want to strengthen and grow and training like like adding sheer force On your bones, which is exactly what resistance training does now walking Can build some bone density in your lower body is off gravitational forces That's just off because of the impact But sheer force sheer force does it better and sheer force is when you're taking a bone And you're applying force on it like you're trying to bend it or compress it And with resistance and that's literally what resistance training does And I like to use this kind of an example for people because people think oh take more calcium use this drug whatever If your body has this signal To adapt by becoming stronger That is the only time all these additional things that you take and do Will actually benefit you it's like adding protein to your diet without lifting weights You're not going to build more muscle just because you have more protein Or it's like giving it's like having a bunch of bricks in a yard But having no build builders to build your house throw as many bricks as you want No mortar It's yeah, it's not gonna be turned into a house until you have the the workers And the stimulus that causes that is resistance training. I had a client who Years ago Where she came to me because she had osteopenia But she also had another condition where her body wasn't producing Enough red blood cells. In fact, they thought she had cancer at one point But they found that she didn't but it just kept getting worse and worse So her doctor said hey, you know, you should start exercising. She she came and saw me And we started working out she was on she had been on the like was it called the Immune immuno modulating or drugs or immunosuppressive drugs for osteopenia. They were really doing anything for her She was doing, you know the cow whatever all those stuff wasn't doing anything for her She started resistance training with me And within I think it was a six month period for the first time saw reversal In our osteopenia and we got so good Things looked so good that they actually created a case study around her because of the effects Which to me is silly like duh, right of course resistance training is going to do that Let me explain why it's really sad that we're still dealing with this It's it's I mean this is this the science has been around for this for a long time now And the fact that we still have they don't they don't get educated in this dude They have no all they're educated on his activity It's such a simple fix like to change that and like and I I 100% agree with you and I would bet all the money I had Alongside you that this will get changed as a recommendation because it's purely just a the lack of Education and the what it would take to actually just change it I don't know if there's all these hoops They have to jump through in order to to change that it's just a lot of red tape We get so protective, you know in the way that we prescribe things and like we don't want people to You know do anything that's going to cause them to accelerate their harm when in fact You know the the training of it natural exercises is what's going to get you Building up to where you get stronger and you can resist forces where we're afraid of the forces now avoid the forces Like don't don't don't go out and lift anything heavy anymore A medical doctor has no business talking to you about this a physical therapist. You want a dpt You can go somebody that I mean that would be ideal They'll tell you that and they'll tell you the resistance training absolutely They would encourage for you to do of course, but again, it's a it's a risk thing right? So they think that like oh you they've been told like well It's because you know the problem with the problem with what that is this Conduct a study on cardiovascular activity easy Everybody go 30 minutes for a walk and we'll study this Conduct a study on resistance training There's a million and one different ways to apply resistance training And some of them are are effective and some of them are terrible I could see a study coming out saying resistance training has no positive effects on health And it's not because resistance training doesn't work It's because when you look at the routine that they used it was some bullshit circuit or something like that where They weren't applying it properly. The problem is resistance training requires more programming It requires more expert programming worse cardiovascular understanding the skill of it as well That's it like too much intensity too little intensity Right amount of frequency the right biomechanics exercise It costs way more money to conduct a study on it than it does to conduct a study on cardiovascular training But if you look at aging what happens to your body's your age Hormone levels start to change. What form of exercise Promotes youthful levels of hormones better than any other form of exercise resistance training Mobility as you age you lose mobility where you feel stiff. You can't squat. You can't Bend over you can't reach up above your head. What form of exercise? Directly combats that and improves it better than any other form of exercise resistance training Let's look at strength muscle the loss of muscle mass and metabolism adaptations where your metabolism slows down What directly combats that resistance training? There is no form of exercise that can literally compete with resistance training what comes to this and this was my specialty I trained people For years who were in advanced age people over the age of 65 And the reason why I became a specialist in this besides the fact that I enjoyed working with them Is I started training one then I started training two and then I started training doctors Then doctors started training sending me all their older clients because the results they saw were I'll tell you something right now If I get a 25 or 35 year old client and I train them I'll see dramatic results You give me a 75 year old and I'll change their fucking life I'll change their life completely to the point where they were maybe dependent on someone And now they're independent all of a sudden a sudden life changing. That's how big of a difference Resistance training makes cardiovascular training. I mean, what's the the greatest benefit to that? What like heart and lung health, right? But at the same time you could still get a heart pumping effect, you know from resistance training Just like you would running but it's I mean obviously it's a different process But at the same time like there's like all those benefits you you listed I mean far far outweigh, you know, what what cardiovascular training provides But that's it's because of I think it's it's the skill acquisition, right? So it's this is something that we need to take seriously as like if we're gonna Bind together as as professionals and medical in the medical field in You know health and fitness like we all need to kind of like get better at now Okay, if I have a patient that's dealing with this and I want them to do resistance training We need to we need to give them somebody that knows what they're doing to teach them the skill set That's right. And you know you said physical therapists at them physical therapists are very good at correctional exercise But when it comes to progressive resistance and resistance in training, they're terrible I know this and that's not their training, right? Their training is not to do that, which is why they don't know it Which is also why I've had a lot of clients that were physical therapists It's understanding that progressive resistance understanding how to apply Exercise programming, but look here. Here's how resistance training think about this way Nobody's going to argue that resistance training doesn't build muscle. We know that but muscle anchors to what? bone If your muscles are going to get stronger that is going to send a signal to strengthen bone as well connective tissue And bone because it all has to anchor. Oh, they all affect each other That's right. And this is one of those things like going through dr. Spina's course like they went into great depth as to, you know, all the different layers of tissue And it's all goes down through the bone everything gets affected by You know how it reacts to this like external force So what an incredible protocol right there for somebody or you know modality that I would recommend to somebody who's 60 is like And getting them started is kin stretch, you know getting them into an active stretch like that Man just that starting them there and then progressing them to movements They can't do because I think what happens with someone like this is the fear of injury I mean, I think that you especially if you're somebody who waited until you're 60 years old until something like this happens Because that's typically what happens is someone like this is you know as as americans. It's very typical We wait until it's broken before we decide to even apply anything towards it or try to fix it Is it so this person's probably been trucking along for 60 years of life with no real resistance training or incorporating that at all And now they're trying and then they got a son or a daughter who's trying to encourage a mom Dad you got to lift weights you got to exercise and they're probably scared to death And they right away ask their doctor doctor tells them that so that's their easy out It's like doc goes. Oh, no, don't do that. Stay away from weights that could hurt you Well, just take calcium supplements You're right if my my 60 year old mother gets under a squat rack and she starts trying to squat to 25 the first time ever Yes, she'll probably will break that and it's probably not a good idea But getting her first to understand her imbalances the areas that she's probably disconnected from because she hasn't moved a certain way for I mean just imagine Progressing progressing the 60 year old to a point where she can get into a 90 90 position Like the her internal and external rotation of her hips like That right there would be a huge feat just to get her to start to do that and then being able to get her to drop Into depth like and actually move her body weight Down into a full squat and then eventually progressing to where you actually build some strength and add I would love to see a study on like strong hips and the longevity that provides, you know As far as lifespan of somebody, you know versus somebody with like a weaker, you know hip and like bone density People just don't realize that if we stop using things it just goes away the brain prioritizes like if you no longer take your Your body and you never ever take your scapula and retract squeeze and depress Which is a normal basic row exercise that we teach everybody and really important in combating forward and rounded shoulders, right? So if you don't ever do this anymore your brain just says stops the communication It says yeah, no no reason to do anymore And so if the brain stops the communication to all those muscles that keep you back in that good posture Then what has to carry the stress now all your spine and your and all your your bone structure carries the stress Then all of a sudden you don't you don't feed it nutritionally You don't exercise it move it then you start to get things like this where you get degenerative type things Look at here's the thing like you'll find Sometimes you'll find people who are very active cardiovascularly who run a lot And the bone density that gets affected most is in their legs, but you'll you'll sometimes see in their upper body Well, they'll have signs of osteopenia. I mean again, I know I I'm going to keep making this case resistance training One of the beauties about resistance training one of the challenges with the resistance training is also one of the beauties of it The challenges require it's much more complex requires much more programming But one of the beauties of it is extremely and it's you can individualize resistance training We know of the form of exercise and you can train the entire body and the movement patterns There is no specific movement pattern and resistance training In other words, if I'm walking or riding a bike or swimming There is a standard pattern that I have to do over and over to do those movements resistance training It's like it's wide open I can move in any way that I want as long as I have good control in good form Which means if I have an imbalance or I have pain or this is where my bones are weak I can train a particular way to directly affect that particular area If I'm if my only form of exercise is walking and I'm getting Osteopenia in my neck or my spine or my upper back The walking isn't going to make that big of a difference I may get some carryover, but it's not going to make that big of a difference versus resistance training I can specifically target the muscles of my upper back and the stability of my upper back where it attaches to The bones that are being affected and directly affect those particular bones because although there is systemic Bone loss that occurs. There's also More specific bone loss that occurs Imparts your body and if you don't believe me take your arm put it in the cast Don't move it at all Leave it like that for a couple years and then look at your bone density in that arm And you'll find that that one arm will get affected and this is in the rest of your body You want this is a great where we talk, you know If you own prime and prime pro you've you've heard of or seen our fortification sessions And this is how I would apply this to somebody like this Like that if if your mom or it's a mom right somebody's mom is right I think so, but yeah, if this is if your mom does not have or you don't have Prime pro and prime like what a great place to start because prime there There's an assessment tool that goes in there So she's going to have to do an assessment from that assessment It will point her in the direction of what exercises are good for her And then she can start to make her workout completely around that like before you even start getting into any Major movements like a squat or a dead lift or something that probably seems very scary or intimidating for her Or she may not even be in a position to where she can do that yet So doing like the fortification sessions doing the prime pro movements to make sure she has good joint health And good mobility with her joints and then eventually progressing her to a program Yeah, if you're already if she's suffering from osteopenia and she's 60 I'm going to just go ahead and say just do the all do the all three zone Fortification sessions in prime. You probably don't even take assessment Just do the fortification sessions right and assume that you're she probably has issues in all of those zones Next question is from t mires 100. Do you think implementing mini cuts into a bulk can be useful? 100 yeah, the same same exact reason why putting a mini bulk within a long cut is beneficial Because the metabolism adapts we've been talking a lot about speeding up the metabolism And how it's a good idea to speed up metabolism for most people But there are situations where Where you've constantly been trying to gain and gain and gain And your metabolism is adapted and adapted adapted to the point where Just to gain another pound of muscle It's like you got to consume 5 000 calories a day, which I've been in that situation. It's a pain in the ass It's very difficult. Yeah, you're not assimilating the food like you know your word usually right because you're overwhelming everything And you're burning it and and consuming that much food and not being efficient with it might not be a good thing So doing a mini cut in the middle of your bulk can actually resensitize your body to these calories and proteins Make your body a little bit more efficient so that you gain more weight or more muscle mass With less calories and what's his name ben pakolsky made a fan amazing point a while ago We were on his podcast And I was making a comment about how pro bodybuilders have these phenomenal genetics and One of the things about their genes is their a bit their ability to consume mass amounts of food To support their mass and he corrected me. He said no He goes you don't want to be a pro bodybuilder having consumed 10 000 calories a day To be 300 pounds of muscle you want to be able to have the kind of metabolism where you can consume 3 000 calories a day and still look muscular like that and We actually experienced that I actually witnessed that myself When we went on we actually took a trip with uh, robert oberst who's a World's strongest man competitor and he eats about the same as we do. Yeah, he's a massive human being by the way He I mean, you know, he picked up adam like he was a baby held him in his arms like a child through You know just into the pool threw me on the head like I was like, yeah I was like five years old He's a big big human being and he probably ate 500 more calories a day than than I did and he outweighs me by over 100 pounds Yeah, because his body's so does such a good job of assimilating that food So yeah mini cuts within a mini bulk you'll build more muscle if you do that This is how I like to intermittently use fasting too It's a great way to do that because we always talk about the health benefits of including Fasting every now and then and what an easy way for you to to start off a little mini cut is so all I'll be trucking along four or five weeks of doing some sort of a bulk And then I'll do a fast and then a calorie reduction for Three to five days and then go right back into my bulk It's a great way to kind of shock the system then turn right back around into your bulk And I think everyone's there's going to be an individual variant So like you're not going to get like a specific protocol for me as far as you know Oh do this many days or do it for this long or reduce your calories by this because if you're someone like me Who spent the first 30 years of his life always in a bulk There was huge benefits to me actually running a cut like like for an extended period of time because I'd never done that before Yeah, mini cut would have not been long enough. Right. Yeah, exactly And so some and but maybe somebody is this person is really good about doing that So everyone's going to have a little bit of an individual variance But I think there's great value in actually getting out of that surplus Especially if you're running in a surplus for weeks on end I mean if you're running it for a few days or a week or two Not a big deal But if you're somebody who's been bulking for weeks or like what a lot of these body builders do Where they bulk for a whole season or perma bulk guys. Yeah guys in the gym. Yeah. Yeah Well, they're like three months. They're like on a bulk like 100 percent throwing a show even like a short week Like it doesn't need to be like an extended period of time if your primary goal is to bulk and put size on I'm not telling you to reduce calories for months on end But if you've been on a bulk for a month or two straight throwing a nice solid week of actually a calorie restriction Oh, man, watch how your body responds when we go back to refeed I like to tell people who are trying to bulk to if they're doing a long bulk Just do one do a fast once a week Go do a 24 a fast once a week or one day a week You only eat one meal and then go back to your regular bulk and watch how much more Effective those calories are when you are eating the extra calories. Plus it gives your body a break One of the problems with being on a constant bulk. That's a lot of work for your digestive system That's a lot of potential for inflammation and that Fast that you do once a week gives your digestion a break and allows you to assimilate more that you find the Grellen response to be tough When you're in a bulk and then you have that mini cut and then you go right back to bulk like that's got to be pretty Pretty tough to go through that like day right cutting as opposed to like because you're in that momentum I like I like it because one of the problems is challenging one of the problems with being on a bulk a lot For a long period of time is the fact that you lose your appetite You actually do like you start to find at first when you bulk you're like, oh, this is fun I get to eat all his food But then after you do it for a while, especially if you have a fast metabolism or you're an ectomorph It's like you got to stuff yourself with food all the time and it's a fucking job man And it sucks no joke fast once a week and your appetite comes back the next day All of a sudden you start eating again. You want to eat more. I remember experiencing that It was a I mean talk about how big of a pain in the ass to just try and stuff your face with food That could be a major Well and that and then to me that should be your natural signal that you're you're pushing the body beyond where it Wants to be so it's it's an it's an and that's maybe that's a better answer than us telling you like Oh do a fast for this long or do this many days or like that well, you know do your bulk and as long as you are Enjoying the increase of calories. You don't feel like it's a struggle to get those calories But we know there's will come a point where you feel like oh, I'm just stuffing my face And when that that's probably your body's natural system telling you like hey That's more than more food than I want to even yeah So how about go back the other direction for a little bit and then reset and come another way excellent Look, uh, we have free guides free absolutely free available mind pump free.com We have guides on how to do hit training properly Train your legs how to tone up your arms or strengthen your arms your midsection your chest your calves and more Just go to mind pump free.com Download them now. 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