 Mae Gwbner yn sylweddol i'r gondol ei mh Gyllidau wedi'i ddenydd iawn, ac mae'n gwybod yn awr peonfa'r gyllidau, ac mae'n gwybod yn ystod ei ch hope mae ym erioedd ac yn ystod sefydig mae'n gwybod yn gyfan fyrdadau. Mae'r gwbl yn ei gynhyrchu ddweud hynny'n dweud yn dweud â'r awr ei ddweud. yn Emo State, com 2023. He said that no one would discourage him from his journey to actualise his dream. Well, joining us to discuss this is AIC Akarandu. He's a policy analyst. Thank you very much AIC for joining us. We're having connection problems with Mr Akarandu. We'll take a quick break and bring you a report from Nigerians and how they feel about the NSAS situation. Stay with us. There is nothing wrong in getting protection for them. But again, see, in Yoruba language, it says if you do not do something behind, as in something hidden, you should not be scared. You should not be scared of, okay, if truly the lawyers came out to say the truth about whatever the investigation or whatever happens during the NSAS which we all know or are aware of, you understand? I don't think they should be scared of maybe anybody threatening them, you understand? Or if there's anybody threatening them, they should be exposed. See, what they did is very commendable. I mean the panel, they did their constitutional duty, taking their time to find out the truth and they are probably the truth. Now they are getting its rights in the responsibility of the government to protect them. So we don't even have to be discussing this at all, you understand? They should be the fundamental rights, you understand? A threat to life under the condition is a crime. So they have to be protected one way or the other by the government because they have done their job, a very good job for that matter. So there is no good thing about that, that's what ought to be done. It's necessary for them to be immured. Because if they are immured, it will help them to be able to perform very well. And because of the insecurity nature of the country Nigeria we are, I believe if they are protected, it will also help them. First of all, they are citizens of the country. The government should protect them. And it's a very, very sensitive issue that happened. And at this point, I think there's no reason why more lives should go down. Let's get to the bottom of it. Everybody should own their responsibilities, take actions for their responsibilities and we move on from it. Simple apologies reaching out to the families because, I mean, people actually died. To be honest with you, people actually died. So let's stop these jokes about people not dying or whatnot. And we can move on. If we know we want the next generation and the next two generations to know that we did the right thing as a government and as a people, then we should own up to the issues and face them. Apologies for the connection hiccups. We're still being joined by AIC, a car and do a policy analyst. I was still looking at the recent developments in emo state and of course the former governor is saying that nothing is going to get in the way of him actualising his dream of being the governor of the state. But then we're hearing that religious leaders, we're hearing the leaders of thought in the state and even political stakeholders are saying that he has one way or the other contravened the electoral act. Do you agree with this position? The truth is that the state government is just looking for a diversionary measure. They want a situation where people can be distracted from the real issues so that questions cannot be asked about what our pensioners are passing through till the last two years of this administration. They don't want people to notice that several servants have been passing through one verification or the other till the past two years. They don't want anybody to ask about what is happening with the local government forms and other maladistration that is happening. That is why they are using Iheidoha as a distraction and unfortunately for them the people are not buying into that. Imolite are wiser. They have shown that they know what is happening and they have shown that they cannot be deceived. Iheidoha has not declared for governorship and if you listen to his speech very well on that day he said he didn't come for comparison and there is no way one could have said that Iheidoha is violating electoral law. There is nothing like that. Every declaration was not a programme of a political party. It was not organised by any political party. It was organised by a pressure group and in that place that day you have the chairman of other political parties. I remember vividly I saw the chairman of Ab-Gaidimol State. He spoke at that event. So it is insensitive for anybody to say that the programme was organised by the PgD in the first place. It is all part of diversionary measures. Secondly, there is nothing Iheidoha. From governorship come 2024. You just answered my question because I was going to ask does he really have an intention to run for governorship? Yes, he has. But at the right time he will let him know about his ambition because the truth has today is that the vast majority of Fundimol are aiming for Iheidoha to come back. The ones, those things he started in his administration that come as the witness for several months. The pressure laws that are being paid, they were in their homes receiving a lot. I'm curious. Can you hear me? I can hear you. What things did he start? I remember vividly while he was still in... Let me hear you. You're saying that the people of Imo are yearning for him to return to continue the things that he started. I'm curious. What things did he start that he needs to continue? That is what I'm telling you. On that seven months when Iheidoha was the governor there was an absolute calmness. Confidence was restored among the people. Let me give you an instance. Within that period there was an incident at Obu where the police station was down. In less than 10 hours of that incident Iheidoha was in Obu to console with the family, to sympathize with the Nigerian police force and to calm the situation in the area. That is leadership. But we have a situation where issues happen in Imo's state. Over 24 hours nobody says anything. No government talks. Unless the people continue to shout on social media before you can see government talk. As of today there is a leadership vacuum that is being yearned to be filled. ImoLight cannot wait for this administration to end so that they can vote in a responsible government that can fix their roads and they know that this road is up to start that. Look at political truth. Look at political decision. That was where Bohare commissioned when he was in Imo's state. Is that something that I should vote for a person? Fixing of roads is what you should do with taxpayers' monies. It's not a project that I should plug in. Is it also something that you put in a scorecard because I think we have misplaced priorities now? Fixing a road is the job of every single governor. Fixing a road is the job of every single governor because taxes are paid for those things to be done. It should not be a reason why I should vote a person in because that's that person's responsibility, isn't it? That's my question. I want to get you clear. You're making a case for fixing roads and you're making reference to river states roads and I'm wondering to myself, fixing a road should not be a reason why I would vote a person into power because originally that's their job. I pay taxes for that reason. No, no, no. Let me educate you on that. Quickly. Because of the mad administration we have in Imo's state, a PC leadership for the past eight years, fixing a road has become a big deal for Imo. It's unfortunate because when you go to other states like river states, even a body states here, even in Ibu, they have all gone above us. But today in Imo's state, you will agree with me that for the past nine years, we've brought a PC leadership in this age, we cannot boast of one particular road without Portugal and I want to be proved wrong. So that is why fixing a road has become a big deal for Imo because you need to fix the road roads. You need to reduce over migration. So that somebody in the heat room bomber does not need to come to a wedding to do business. Somebody in our loop does not need to come to a wedding to do business. Somebody in the adjunction does not need to come to a wedding to do business. They can get what they want. They can assess their road roads. And they help their lookers unfortunately we're out of time. This is because of the hiccups that we had with our connection but we want to appreciate you. And we're hopefully going to have you back to discuss more on this. AICR Cymru is a policy analyst and he's joining us from Imo's state. Thank you so much for speaking with us. Thank you for blessing. All right. Well, thank you all for staying with us and being part of the conversation. We want to appreciate you. Don't forget you can watch a replay if you missed the whole show on our YouTube channels at Plus TV Africa and at Plus TV Africa Lifestyle. I'm Marianna Cohn. Do you have a good evening. See you tomorrow.