 in terms of we are that we are holding off on that and in the meantime we're also revisiting how we are paying for content and the rules and ambiguities around it. And so for now, in terms of if we're contracting out for more we're going to hold off on contracting out for any more live coverage until that gets kind of settled. Thanks for that context. Sure. Okay, thank, and thank you, Jen for facilitating that. So he wrote dear work media board directors, I would like to thank you for your service to community television. I've been a viewer, a covered school and select for a member and a contributor. It is a wonderful way to give people a voice and allow people to stay engaged and informed with their community. I have been providing local sports coverage to Adelpia access, then work and media, since the mid 1990s, when Kendrick kite was the executive director. The feedback from community members that enjoy watching high school and other sports on local cable has always been motivational. And my technological understanding has now allowed me to be able to live stream local high school sports. I use software that allows me to have titles graphics scoreboard clock and even instant replay of exciting place. I can also run video sports for underwriters video spots for underwriters. I currently provide CBTV live sports coverage. I would love to work with or to provide live local high school sports coverage as well. Montpelier high school sports including soccer and basketball, including soccer and basketball are very strong this year. I have heard many fans that want our coverage. I know orca is still in search of a new executive director to replace Rob Chapman. I am hoping the board might support me and the possible live local high school sports coverage. I am always free to discuss options and capabilities. Thank you for your service to our community. First name is Harold Carl Carl of CB sports.net. So yeah, I just I think that what it feels like the appropriate thing would maybe for us to continue that conversation with Carl and if you know if you would like to respond as a board or maybe we can take the issue that he's a contractor as opposed to an employee. Because we all kind of know the value of like, you know, high school graduations and sports and. Yeah, I think that I think that that's what it is is that it was that he is set up as like essentially like an independent contractor. Right, is that is that which opens the door to another community producer perhaps saying why can't I get this deal. Yeah, yeah. And I think that you know obviously there is some. Yeah, he's definitely bringing a value to the cover in sports but you know I also think that it's something that needs to be looked at in general and whether how we, you know, if we want to do sports coverage in house or if we want to partner with the schools themselves to have some kind of sports coverage. And you know I do think that what he's doing is providing a value to the community. And this is a company you know essentially set up as a for profit right and he has contracts with the school is my understanding heaven underwriters. I don't want to belabor the point yet as an old jock. I knew that films were either a blessing or a curse right after the football game if you missed the block and the guy scores. I don't know whether he's doing this in conjunction with sports teams, and actually filming things that would help them review what happened and didn't happen in soccer game. And that might be a part of his income or part of what he's trying to do. And my understanding I think part of the sports that he does cover so he doesn't cover molecular high school I think they contact out with a different group that might be doing that so our, and part of our reluctance maybe to be full fledged with him is that the sports bits that he was it would be like folding versus they were maybe versus molecular so in terms of our service area he wasn't there weren't a lot of sports team that was using him. So it's like, in terms of, you know whether it's reaching up to the schools and trying to get it I think Randolph started to do more of their own and it was like oh well let's grab it and it's, it doesn't cost anything and it's in our service area so in terms of the value that we were experiencing it's probably not as much as it could have been just because whether the other schools have, I think there's a lot of sports coverage contracting type, like that maybe does more of like, so you can look at your film kind of thing versus what Carl was doing so I think in terms of that and also like we're like if we lost it, like the amount that we were getting, and what was getting covered wasn't like this huge like we wouldn't necessarily feel it. I have a few questions and comments. I mean so how much was he charging for the service. So, I think it was like, I want to say 200 a month, and then that was like for two, I think like two shows, or like for the month so let's say it's like sending some camera operators to cover a sports event. Yes, it would be so I think it might be a little bit more. Yeah, it's replay value. Yeah. And it wasn't really, I don't think we'd have to look, there wasn't necessarily like a contract that like it's guaranteed like programs that he's giving us. And that's fine I just wanted to get a sense of how much he was charging for the service and and and the area he was covering which you answered he's not covering month heavier. I think Randolph has the high school has the tech center has that new program, which is a live stuff, and they probably have that set up and if you're running for them, because we've always struggled with Randolph. Right. Yeah, wanting sports covered but we cannot do it because honestly it's a hard thing to do. Oh, for sure. I guess somebody offers their service to cover that you know, it requires a person at least with your camera. You know how and all that, but he's not covering month heavier. Yeah, he's covering spaulding which is technically not. Yeah, so I think he does like I think Barry also pitches into his contracting fees and maybe that's also what like this whole thing. Does he pick up you 32 or water various high schools. So we just need to have a conversation with him and kind of figure out what, you know, the expectations are, you know, and, and yeah I mean it's not that we're not saying that you know it's it's black and white we're going to cut them off. Yeah, this letter doesn't sound like you know what you guys do. Yeah I think it's just a matter of like, we need to be clear what's what this means for work going forward. And it is weird because it's his own gear so he doesn't work for orca because he would be using orca gear. Yeah. I have a question when there's a. And this is CJ. Yep, you're coming through. Okay, great. We don't see other sports events does orca cover the story about the thumb over the story is green there. You know we don't, we don't typically do sports I mean it's yeah we have a pretty yeah. I think we're kind of recaptured them over years for a little bit. Maybe. Yeah, that's okay. Maybe. I mean there could be an other you know pay for somebody to go and be a camera person. But if we're not doing other sports, then we're carrying some content for a guy and providing free exposure. It's a certain audience and it seems like we're providing a benefit just by carrying this content. But we're being inconsistent. So my based on what you've said, I would understand the teams thought and bringing the letter to the board. Yeah, I think that's the question for us. I think it's a, I think it's a good thing. And what it what it is, how are we going to go about the doing these things right and this is our service territory and I say I you know I think we are the ones that should decide when we contract out versus right. If somebody routinely do that right those services, the fact that he's not covering my opinion per se, because I'm going to be covered by doesn't really mean you know, you don't have that much use for his services. Right. Now, does this the kind of the games end up on our YouTube page or our website or that's fully proprietary. Yeah, that's what we do. Yeah, we just live stream at that one time. We do live stream it because it's the schedule is a little bit hard because it's not a set so every Friday night on the education channel we have game of the week. You do. And so depending we have something from him I'll play it sometimes like the mx had a soccer show or game that I pulled and so I played that. So there's a standing slot. There's a standing slot it's just Friday night and then because and then because the live streams are a little bit like not a set time and it depended on the schools and so there wasn't like I couldn't regularly schedule it so it'd be like interrupting whatever was playing currently to be able to do the live streams on the channel if we wanted to do a stream on the channel. And this is this does not need to become an action item. No comment we're just taking in information. Yeah, we can still, we could always you can still give us stuff and play. I think that's what we're also kind of leaning towards to I mean if we were treating it's kind of like we just need to, you know, have a conversation with him and you know and so I think internally figure out where if we do pay for content. When is that as we do find value and production criteria. Correct, which is a rental. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the last thing I want to say about this is, have you talked to the high school month of your high school sports director what are they well I think that's a part of that conversation that like we need to also do some information gathering and like talk to you 32 I know Michael and I have talked about like, there could be some interest, you know with students covering their own sports or, you know, yeah, so I think we also need to get a kind of regional information gathering and talk to him and yeah, and it doesn't mean that we can't maybe come up with some agreement with him that maybe we do pay per program instead of a monthly fee or something you know like there could be something and that we clearly, you know know what we're going to get and the expectations are clear. Yeah, and potentially he's interested in helping teach kids, right. Yeah, exactly. Maybe a growth opportunity. Yeah, CJ's got her hand up there. Yeah, thank you. What did. All right, so we're carrying some games. If the town team to us and said hey would you carry our high school sport with that fall under a career where we would feel obligated to send out a camera person to cover it. I mean, we could we could somebody could very well request event coverage for a high school sport and we could take it from there and you know that's, it just hasn't necessarily happened. So the content we kind of know they're people like it's, you know, the community cares about high schools. Yeah, I think that. Yeah, have you had coverage request for sports for sports but I know they're pretty like protective of the content. Interesting. Yeah, my principles association guidelines or something. Right, I know. So I think that this is just kind of dig in a little thing that we need to end. Yeah, this has also been a conversation that, you know, sports and sports coverage in general has been kind of an active conversation on the band slacks. So I think that like, you know, maybe kind of looking at what other amos are doing would be a good idea as well. I would ask you when you do feel Friday night. What happens to it after you show it. It gets. It actually doesn't get archived because it's not our content so I just play it and then as I run on the archive. Yeah, so I don't archive it, although it's on YouTube and then, but in terms of like an official archive because it wasn't ours, I guess. I'm not asking. That's where I kind of license seen it. Do we license other things. We don't not even at a national at the national level like things and we don't have national programming. So we have, I mean we have like free speech that we play, but we don't that gets streamed live. So outside of the mx I tried not to really unless someone has requested that we carry it or we play it. The local person. Yeah. Yeah, but normally it's because of our report and report I try to leave it as created and then the Vermont access so that it's not so much outside of that. Do we pay for democracy now. Okay, because it's we asked to stream it so it's just part of it, but in terms of it's yeah just, I think in Tom Hartman is the other. Yeah. And like I brought a video series over called astronomy for everyone, and that's just, you know, a series that's professionally produced. And they were just happy that we were carrying their content. Because we're providing the, you know, an avenue for people to find the content. My thought is that it's, it's in, you know, I'd be interested in hearing. And my thought is that this seems about that and also it's an opportunity. We send in addition to looking at the other a and most are doing, could we send a letter to the select boards in our towns or their city councils in the case about failure and say, Would you like, you know, would you like to carry your local team sports and would you say request an allocation of funding at the town meeting to be put on the budget and create an actual agreement and obligation. After we find enough about it. Yeah, yeah, or would it be school boards or right. Yeah, figuring that out. Yeah, good point. Maybe it's the outbreak just in the school boards. You're right. I'm not entirely sure but yeah, it's something that needs further research and we can get to a place where we've got. Do you want to criteria, except for this or take it into your document search. Hang on to it. It's addressed us so I can hold it. I don't know if it's a conversation good spices or response maybe a summarized comment or copy to append to the minutes for tonight. Yeah, yeah. So I did there's a PDF on the Google drive for the board so I did scan it so it's easily wonderful. I just, you know, I wrote a little bit kind of overview but I did gather more information from the select board school boards and schools. Are we going to close caption, I'm going to be able to grab some verbiage from our conversation and just share that with him. I don't think we are, or could we be after we. Yeah, maybe it also let him know that we're going to, you know, we're going to ask what this is. Yeah, this means and how to. Yeah, yeah. Excellent. I just want to take public comment for us. And we have a double here on the minutes. April 23 2022 is second in the packet and try out a star with a chronologically backwards right. They were found April 26. If the agenda. I was Dave, my daughter chatter to myself, CJ Sue and rock. This was Rob's last meeting. We're going to want to take a minute and just do a scan and we'll look for any fixes we might need. That'll be June. If you go in smaller font is the second. To do April 1. 26 people up but yeah. Okay. Thank you. Follow order 632. Single single John blocks last name with an HCH. That's it. It shows up twice. I have anyone find anything else that would need a mandate to get this. These minutes all the way up to speed. I'm just going to add that I think that's a great idea. I haven't heard that until reading this here that to do a John block award. We've been talking about this for a long time. Yeah, it's like a more like a scholarship we were thinking back then I don't know. Yeah, somebody pursuing. Yeah, I was thinking, it might be we don't have, I know brother does this we don't have like community producer awards and like, you know, you think of like, yeah, the amount of stuff Larry has done and with his show I mean like that would. It's kind of like the first person I think it would be nice to like recognize that as a board or something. Yes, he's definitely got a social justice mindset. Yeah, that's something to think about. In terms of the minutes themselves to people see other fixes. And if not I can entertain emotionally accept. We accept the minutes. We have them for the second and Carlos seconds. I shall call the question. All those in favor accepting the April minutes. Please indicate by saying hi. And a host. And we're unanimous and we're moving a lightning fast to the June 28 minutes. And this is the larger. Mike sorry properly I should probably have seen fair enough. Thank you behind the wheel right. Driving while leaving. So, let us enjoy reminiscing on June 28 and see if we've got. Minnesot need any amendment or ready to go. Yeah, this was my work. Job. Just catching some phrases. All right, so remind me Christopher. How to say where some of your summer. Okay, thanks. So, can you ask questions. Yeah, I think I do. I do have some phrases that maybe unclear and they just may need to be turned into full sentences. I'm not, it's not as I'm not questioning the minutes. I'm just asking information in the minutes. Don't have me hanging a little bit with which is when you're a nonprofit sponsor for my period pride fest. Do you have any sense at all of how that sponsorship and what happened at the pride fest are important enough for the board to know. Right, right, right. Right, right. Yes, it's at all. And I'm glad we were a nonprofit sponsor. I just didn't know if there's anything like quick summary of how the pride fest itself went whether there was enough money for all the things that needed to happen. By rights, a conversation like that ought to be an old business. Right now we're just to prove that it's fun that happens all the time. When you're doing the old minutes it jogs your memory here like the content of the old minutes, but I'm going to say, yeah, can we put that I will make a note that will bring that we have an old business report out on the pride sponsorship. Okay, now back to the matter hand. So this is for the minutes, people see things that need work for entertainment motion. You can get anything suitors name right one T. I think so. Yeah, that's right. I didn't capitalize. I'll need to approve those minor edits that you're catching over there. Thank you. I'm going to move to accept the minutes of June 20. Kate with minor edits. Do we have a second thing. I'm going to second again. Thank you Carlos you're trying to be trying to share the wealth but I'm trying to move the meeting along. All right, all those in favor except in June 20 2022 me please and Kate by saying hi. Hi, and a post and the abstentions. Thank you guys. It does look like the guys have it. All right, thank you folks, we're moving along nicely to the financial reports. I do see that we're doing some informational center. Thanks for all your prep work. Thank you. I'm going to turn to the manager Mike bro. Not very nice. I don't know who on staff. The heavy listening for the financial reports. Code directors. So you want to. So this at all. So I think on the edge. I think the only. Like in terms of numbers. I don't know what that the ever Jones representative. I think was contacting you about who to be put on that account. Or, and so that's the only thing I think related to the finance show. Right. I believe he talked to Mike Doyle and Mike referred him to me and I call it was late in the week. And I left a voicemail and I'll just warm up the trail again. But right we've worked the bank out but right now the Edward Jones piece. Who's. Did the issue come to Mike Doyle. Looking like they do. Correct. Yes. I believe so. Yes. So the rest of this number. What's that again. We didn't see them. I think he would. He would bring them in. This is more complete than I generally remember seeing. Okay. Maybe a year and then we might get a little deeper in the weeds. And then. What's our rhythm with the Comcast checks. So we just received. And that we mentioned it in the director's report. Okay. The quarterly Comcast track. And it was a little bit more than the biggest one, like a thousand. Change. But I think it's within what we're expecting. And. I think we're all kind of thinking it's a plateau. And really that's kind of where it's going. It definitely decreased. But if we were to look across time and do a line that best fits, then it seems like there's this tiny little. Okay. And who in the new leadership. Tri triangle. Does this stuff. Measure the accuracy, make complaints if necessary. In other words, do you deal with all. I think you're anticipating the circle conversation. Okay. That you're. Hey, CJ. Good to see you. You're a lot better. You also look better than this good thing on the table. Good to see you guys. We're in the midst of. We're in the midst of financial reports. And. Here we go. Yeah, but you do also have budget versus actuals. Thank you. There's any numbers you want to draw attention to. If we're believing too fast or too slow. Well, yeah, I think in the budgets, I think, you know, we're expecting the compensation line to be less. It's going to. I was looking at the unemployment taxes and it seemed like it was super high again, but we budgeted better and looking at previous years, it matches up. So I think that it's just something that needs to be. Part of it in the next budget cycle to budget for a little bit more than what the taxes have been previously budgeted for. So it's not different than what's been in the past, but it is like, you know, like 200% of budget for that employment taxes. But I think all the things that we were kind of expecting to be lower, whereas like the health insurance also is much lower. That was one of the spaces also that we were looking at savings. And I think outside of that, everything is online. And I think we've been tracking our bits in terms of like office expenses and equipment purchases to make sure that we did have from the previous meeting. We had a couple of big purchases that were taken care of. So we had the maintenance contract for the hypercaster and we did get a new computer. So we do have a new computer in that. So our, what is it? Is it like an iMac or something like that? Yeah. It's a, it's, it's not an M one. We're not ready to move that way yet. So our total expenses are at 52. 21% of budget. And you're. Well, more than half a year. I mean, a little more. Yeah. Two months more than half a year. We're in good shape. People want to. Ask or share thoughts on the financial reports. Or entertain emotional except. Either option. Is welcome. Whether he surprises. No, I think, um, no, outside of the unemployment taxes, but that was. I just wasn't familiar with it and wondering why it was over. But then when looking at the past, it makes sense. So not any real surprises. Okay. It's really silly. It's only 29 97, but I'm just curious what's relocation. That was something that was in there from the floor. So I'm wondering if it was like leftover. Charges from the move. Okay. Some funny little. All right. What is government? Appropriations line 4,200 under. That's it. The state money that was allocated to the 24. The organizations. The band requests. Thank you. And that both, both checks received that came into a settlement. So we're still waiting one. Yes. So the first, the 1200 or 12,000 was the first from the first. And then so we are waiting for this. So you want 24. And this is an image from being on Randolph budget committee. You have a budget for the year. And then you have spending to date. As it's possible to add a column. That's expected. And that way. You have both what's actually being spent today. And then what you expected to spend today. It's just makes it easy to zoom down and say, oh yeah, that's like a little, a little under what we were thinking you see. Okay. We can. I can. The magic. Thank you. People feel fully apprised. The financials. It's been going great. We're going to discuss it in the director's report. And then hopefully. I'm thinking for the October meeting, I could have a little. Report back on the. Because we're still. You just wrapped up that one. So then we'll have, but we do have. Some things to mention. And our annual meeting. This is probably either new or old business. So. We're hoping to determine a date for that. That's in the director's report to you. So yeah, we do have Michael and I throughout a couple of days in September and, you know, maybe we can do that. Today as a group. Just pick one. Yeah. And we can start planning. Does the summer camps have a ending date or did they just sort of keep going and. And merge into the beginning of school. They haven't a clear ending date. Okay. And so we met. And then. They just ended last week. The nature of the questions that we're getting are sound like the financial reports. So we can get to this good stuff. So. More than. Except the financial reports. Thank you. Yeah. I'm seconded by Chad. And all those in favor of second. Please. Indicate with an eye. Hi. And opposed. Thanks folks. Sorry to be that guy, but now we can actually talk about this great stuff. Meeting circles. Yeah. Your pleasure, Chris, whatever already. All right. Cool. Okay. So we're going to jump into the co-directors report and. I'm just, we've got a lot here. Lots of exciting things. We've been super busy and. Yeah. Have a great few. Several weeks. So. We've separated them into these. These sections. So I'll just kind of give you an overview and chat about some of this. So, you know, Of course in our, as always in our, in addition to our, In addition to our, regular meetings, we've done some great new collaborative special events. We've been partnering with all brains belong, which is a new nonprofit based in not failure. And all brains belong advocates for neurodiversity. And the host. And events, a hybrid event called brain club. And they, we do that. They do that in collaboration with us now. So it's a weekly event at the state house lawn. But they kind of took. From the pandemic and brought it into the real world. And so it's this. That's kind of their flagship program. It feels like so. Brain club every Tuesday night. And we're there. Yeah. That's been great. So we're going to do that. We did a successful live stream event from the state house steps. So that's the first to work. It was a two performances put on by. Cultivating piece. So those were a nice. We got our name out there and they, they gave us, they put us down as a sponsor on all their materials. So that was nice to see. On the, on the flyers around town. Let's see, we live streamed from Vermont tech college. And Randolph for the first time for the Vermont council, then homelessness event. Covered, we've. Covered a handful of primary election candidate forums and events around the leading up to the primaries. So that was super exciting and one of the ones I think kind of got the most viewership. So I included on here was the barn storming at the state house where Bernie came to speak on behalf of Becca. And so that was great. We were down for downtown for that. And then we were back with their live stream of the July 3rd parade. So that was super fun. And. We had two hosts and a couple of guests and then just kind of. And, you know, it was, it was definitely a new. Set up because we weren't at city center right there. So that was a. Yeah. Smashing success. It was great. So when those are done. They're archived under the title of the event or under the day that it was. The recorded by us. So in terms of like, and we do the production dates to the date that it happens. So if I wanted to see the cultivating peace event, you have it. So if you went on our website, it would be under local. I think it's under community events and cultivating peace might actually have their own series. So it's also, but it's the, the date of the production. That it happened. Yeah. And of course you can search on our site and you can search on our YouTube as well. So. And we're looking for something specific because we do have a lot of hours of content. If you want us to send something new. So yeah, that outreach and community partnership. In that realm, we. We worked with a rule of Vermont. So I pointed out here that we really have been deepening our relationship with rule of Vermont and kind of coming out of this transitional period too. It's been really great. So we partnered with them to just cover. I think we did five total events as far to this long weekend. That was an agroecology encounter. They called it each one to each one out in Marshfield. And what was really neat about this particular event or. Piece that we fit into was that it was. Part of an international organization called Lobby. Which is the international cousins movement. So the content was shared internationally. And then we shared the raw media with them to include their having somebody actually edit it as part of like a mini documentary. So that's really neat. We supported a graduate student from Northern Vermont University just recently. She used our studio to conduct a series of interviews for a short documentary on first responders in Vermont. So Zach led the effort there to provide production assistance with her. We've been training a new community producer, Jesse Huffman on some of the higher level production equipment that we have, like the cinema cameras. And Jesse's also interested in learning editing and super enthusiastic and kind of has a lot of experience in the director and writing role. So he's he's excited to like kind of plug into orca and learn just to actual like behind the camera and using editing software. And so he's interested in doing some local restaurant kind of profiles, starting with willow ones. And one of the things that we've been talking to him is about giving him a little exercise to do is this video that we've been it's been kind of on our list that you've seen what we're now calling like an orca media commercial, a short spot that really shares the story of orca media and kind of says how you engage with us and what services and resources provide. So, you know, we're thinking that maybe Zach and Sean and myself can work with Jesse. We can all do that together. And you can kind of like learn through that process. And that's an idea that we pitched in. We had a filmmaker come and borrow equipment who was here from Atlanta and interviewing an artist at the Vermont studio center. And so she actually connected with me through someone I knew through the Vermont College of Fine Arts and she was here just for the day and needed some lights and some production equipment. So that was an exciting kind of short turn around and she's also been a part of her interview to playback. We had a really great and successful make TV camp, super positive feedback. We even had two brothers immediately try to become community or try to become camera operators. They wanted to apply for jobs that we've been looking into how to work here at 14. So we did a little like research and we found that there was a couple barriers that we didn't have. And so we went through the child labor laws and we read some of that and we recommended that they kind of come back when they're 16 and that they kind of exploit the youth. Well, we encourage them to engage with us as community producers. So they're really great gardener camp. I had them last summer too and they're super, they're very local. They're like just down the road. Yeah. So we had a nice, great response. We had a lot of feedback from that. And we have a special couple of minutes of video that we'll show you in just a second here that Sean, our camera operator and post production expert. Now that under Zach has cut together a little like trailer, a kind of a highlights reel of the make TV camp. We can look at that in just a second. So as we mentioned, the Vermont Youth Second Mentor Lab just wrapped up our second year, which is really really intensive and we produce a great, I think really impressive for the amount of time that they had editing that we produced a great short documentary piece exploring the concept of an issue of poverty in Central Vermont. So we talked interviewed folks at the UU, some on the street interviews. We did an interview at Just Basics, the food pantry. And for the first time this summer, we had two youth fellowships that were supported by Sun Commons. So I've paid two people to participate and they were participants from last summer. So they kind of like took the lead in being like teacher assistants. So that was a really great relationship. And actually we hired one of them as a camera operator. So you'll see that in the staff. So like I said, I'm going to have more of a kind of looking back and have some more feedback that we can present and also looking at some of the financials around the summer programs. And we'll do that in October. Yeah. So maybe we'll take a look at the video and then I can continue on. Yeah. Sounds good. What was the actual video? Which one? The original one. Oh yes. That's a very good point. So this was the make-to-be camp and they ended up, I'll give you a little backstory. They ended up doing this like parody news program. And they broke into a bunch of groups. And they all kind of wrote and produced their own segment. And all together. They were really committed in, and then they edited it up and pieced them all together. And all together, I think it was like an hour and a half. So. News program. So John took all of that. And some of the like behind the scenes footage and he cut it to seven minutes. Maybe we could watch the first five minutes. Yeah. All right, take a look. Welcome to Kairi news and good morning. I'm by Jordan and I'm here with Hank Orman. We have been able to increase our, like our, just the content's quality. Give an example. I'm. I'm excited. About being a certain imminent danger constantly. Okay. Yes. Okay. No. Okay. Probably should have said that. Just keep going. They can cut it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was intriguing this morning. We're going to take a look at our on street correspondence. Accenture billionaire. Dashel Blumen. Over to you. Dash. Are you rolling? Have you heard iPhones are exploding all across nation. How do you feel about that? That would be a good thing for the nation. We use our iPhones far too much. You think that's accurate. I'm going to do that. If you don't. I'm going to do that. I've got to do that. The ironic here is that somebody who sees this. It's probably going to see it on their iPhone. Everything my career. You're ready to be rolling. Yeah. Excuse me there. If you're not in a hurry. Could we introduce. No, okay. You're getting out folks. No. Excuse me there. You have some time to speak. No, I don't know. But one question for both of you. Really certainly say no. Do not. Do not eat them. What do you think people don't like to be asked questions and interview. They don't like to think about themselves too much. I honestly despise my voice so look closely on TV you might see yourself maybe. Thanks dash that was very entertaining. I see here on the screen that you had some rough patches. I knew that person's mother and I will fit but we'll see if you're watching this I will tell your mother. Wow, that's what you call revenge. So I wanted to know what was it like going on the street and interviewing people. A lot of the people I asked went along with it quite well and gave very mysterious answers answers you would probably expect from someone possessed by a demon or a goat. I heard you mentioned goat. We'll have to wait real later for that one. I heard you usually write back after this. As you can see around us a devastating storm spawn within the mouth of Satan himself is devastating our town. We're tearing up buildings, torrential rains hit this morning and absolutely wiped out my entire property. I think I'm going to cut there. Yeah, that was really good. Hello. Welcome back, rich I think some of the viewers might have been a bit confused about exactly what you meant torrential downpours I saw nothing of the sort. I think we should cut back to you. This weather is horrible and it's ravaging our homeland the rain is pounding down even now, after all of these days, just crashing down destroying everything. I worry what it means for the worldwide economy to be completely honest. I would advise against believing rich I do not know what he's talking about. And I think I'm going to go and take a walk to clear my head. Yeah, so that's all today folks. I hope that's okay. So here we have a rich are the talk. I'm really seem like nice weather was was the experience like I think to the untrained eye and may have seen that way, however, open your eyes, and you can see fire like coming down. Where'd you go to school to become a meteorologist. Thanks for coming in. It's been very eye opening. Let's move on to some spooky local stories over to our local ghost expert ghost ghost man, who is definitely not me and the full news team as they investigate local paranormal activity. Sir, sir, sir. How do you feel about a ghost. Oh, yeah, there's ghosts are all right. Actually, I did notice this thing over here. The building's floating. What, this was never here before came out a couple years ago saw this point of floating. You see this area right here. That is floating. That is a ghost. That cannot be natural. That is no whole that the floating building everybody. This must be some supernatural things going on. We're doing a ghost hunting and we'd like to ask you a few questions if that's already. Yeah, sure. I don't know the law refer to the story because this story was printed a couple years ago but her name is Anna. Anna ghost. Yes, cool name. The 1897 Anna carry Anna Wheeler and he's my father was a 17 year old woman who had plans to meet her fiance Jack Wheeler and she taught the 830 train to very for decoration day festivities. This woman shot and then herself using a 32 caliber revolver. Wow, that was a that was bloodier than I was expecting. Yikes. Oh, good. Here, as you can see, you probably can't see. And I have a couple of questions for you. Okay, what do you do with your time alone up here. I like flicker lights. That is creepy. Have you possessed anyone. I thought about it, but I could. I'd rather you know it. Thanks for tuning in to another spooky episode of spooky stories with ghost ghost man. That was spooky. Sadly, that's all the time we have today folks. I'm Hank Orman, and I'm by Joe. We can't wait to see you next. Click is that you. It's coming. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. We had a whole week. Yeah, they very much enjoyed that. The future that was. Yeah, that was very, like, philosophical the whole time. You're two anchors though, whoever wrote that script. Yeah, it was way more sarcastic and way more cynical that I was expecting a good way. Yeah. I'm glad they enjoyed it. So yeah, we could share if you want to watch the whole thing where the full segments are really funny. I was very impressed. Yeah. And that was at the end that was Dave Littlefield our PBS resident volunteered to be the witness witness. Great. So yeah, that's that's our video and like I said, we'll share the program. So moving on we have one of the new exciting big news is that after a long conversation with the disbanded board from the Greenmont Film Festival. We have accepted their, their ask for us to take over and manage the festival moving forward. Oh, so that came with a $14,000 check. And so they handed us some money and they said, you know, please keep this going and they felt like it was a good match. And so that's we were very excited about that. One of the things I've been doing is I put together a local advisory committee to kind of help manage and reimagine the fest, the film festival. The first like major decision was that we would wait until 2024 because it's typically a March event and decide, you know, what makes sense. And kind of look at everything that we inherited from them and Chad is on the advisory committee along with Kristin Lucas and the Vermont production collective folks so that's super exciting and we, we released the did a press release, saying that, you know, it's not. The biggest question was everyone was wondering what had happened to the Greenmont Film Festival and was it dead and gone or so we, we wrote a press release saying that it's coming back in 2024 and hopefully we can do some events leading up to that. Is there any chance that some of the past is in any way in video form. And so, as we announced that it's coming again in 2024. Is there a way we could have the highlights of the 20 years or 18 that precede. That would be fun, you know, I, I'm still going through the materials that we inherited from the, the board, their former board and their, you know, unfortunately there was a death in their in one of the folks that was on their board and a lot of stuff like left with them and they were locked out of a computer they said so they are missing a handful of things but you know that's that's life and nonprofit world so it's like what we did get was a lot of old photos and things like that so maybe we can cut together something that would be fun to play on our channel I think that's a great idea and to just use for like social media so. And I think we should talk to Claudia. Yeah, wife and the big picture show because she's done an annual documentary film fest. I mean, usually late January or maybe early February up at the theater in place in Weitzfield. Oh, okay. And she would get some of the best documentaries for that festival so just getting advice from her on how she ran her film festival to give us ideas as we go into the 24. Yeah, okay. Let's go again. So, the, the, the, the other thing is that the bridge had contacted us that Sandra from the bridge would like to do a piece highlighting working media and what is going on with the leadership change. And so we'd also, you know, want the board to be involved who want quotes from the board. So one of the things I was thinking is that we would wait until we, you know, had our special meeting in September and move forward with what kind of appropriate announcement we thought we would want to make at that time so I'll probably just respond to her and let her know that you know you need a little bit of time. The last thing on the community partnership outreach realm was that we did receive really great feedback from Tina Shanda, the technology director at Orange Southwest Supervisor Union. After a consulting project that we did with her on purchasing equipment and kind of a curriculum support so they purchased some video equipment for them. I think it's the middle schoolers. And so anyway, I just I put a quote in here that I could read really quick I thought it was really nice feedback so she said, probably the most important thing is that the adults are now able to envision what students can do and the importance of having our students exposed to creating in this way. You have to make a difference for the students at OSSD. Thanks again so yeah, it's just a really nice positive feedback and something that we hope to do in the future with local schools just kind of supporting in media arts education realm. Moving on to the strategic plan. So, the three of us have been working on policies and procedures and clarifying some of the ambiguities in the organization as we kind of touched on earlier. And so that also working to like increase our visibility and just think about ourselves right and kind of look inward. So, one of the things that is kind of important to point out is that as a line with the band community where we've been moving forward with using the language of community media center, as opposed to AMO or public access TV, which is kind of not only this is kind of moving forward with that I think it's a national trend in the public access now community media world. So we're also using the term community producer, instead of access user. So, yeah, we even have some new community producer t shirts coming out. And I do have an image of them if you want to see but you want to see okay all right check it out so I'll pull it up and share my screen. So these were designed by Bobby Hackney in Burlington. And so the front says community media center. The back says community producer. And it's got our website and our so as a website in the tiny print that's underneath don't just watch TV make TV. Yes, the website and the social media handle if you will that a little slightly larger print but that's okay. Yeah, yeah, maybe the next round. I mean, I don't want people staring staring at my chest or back that close. We'll have some stickers that you can. Thank you. So, the same designer who did the, the redesign of the imagery for the green mountain. Yes, I should show that too. So, yeah, really quick. Thank you, Jen. So I, he did the t shirts for us and I really liked what he did so as part of the press release and the announcement that we made for the Ramon possible. So you can see a couple of graphics here that you can see. So, he did this Green Mountain Festival and now it's about the media and then this is kind of the landing page that we inherited from them so I just put this all on here and this is the press release so anybody wants to read it you can go to the GMF festival.org. And then this is the thing we've been posting on social media. So, those t shirts images, or do we actually have t shirts where we don't have them yet. Okay, they're being printed. We have the hats of yesterday year. We've thought about doing another round of paths and we can they, they were out of the hat the particular hat that I had asked about so we can do something like. Okay, I just think we need here. Yeah, I agree. Merch. Yeah. So, is your is the branding that you're doing right now, like for example, teacher, it's just like the permanent the work of me is going to stick to in terms of color and all that. That's something that we could maybe talk about as we like jump into the strategic planning process and actually have a quick thing I'll mention on that but I think what we did now is like this is just like one round of design and it's just a play on the current logo. I mean, it's been the same for a while and that font is the same more or less and he just kind of made it a little bit more playful. Yeah, this is something that they could wear while they're out like filming. Yeah, there's sort of ideas a like, yeah, I think the idea is that community producer is somebody that's engaging with us anybody could wear the shirt my son could wear the shirt you know it's like if they're not necessarily staff of work of media. So we can also give them out as promotional items and as long as we have the brilliant cartoonist type artist. We could do an orca of whale, a black and white whale. Do you want the whale to come back. Yes. No, but I just think that in a lot of ways, he could do it in a way that would make it funny and so yeah, we can definitely, we could definitely just an idea. Yeah, he takes black and white, and he's already got black and white and original design without him. Right, his color. Yeah, he could make a black and white whale in color of all kinds around it. Yeah, yeah. And I will, I really support and agree with the teachers for brand identity and community building the couple of years ago somebody responsible for building a 20,000 person international visitor like literally 20,000 people coming from outside of the US coached an organization that I was founding about, you know, have a t shirt so we've got a different t shirt color every year with a common theme. And this year. The box was gone an hour after it arrived. The t shirt demand that $20 teacher was unbelievable. So another organization that made something that's for our organization made 200 of them and then they were all sold out at the end of 2020. I was assured so the, but we, the, so the thinking I just I think you're right. This is a good, all of you are, you know, are around on the right. I like your brand building approach I think based on my experience or our experience, it works. Also, I agree with both of you. I just, just be very thoughtful about it. Yeah, take your time to actually vet it through, right. The group of people will really need to vet it through because it's, yeah, once you have it, you should stick to it because that's what branding is. Yeah, that's true that is recognizable when I see from far away. I know who that is. Yeah, I agree. And I think that that's something that we can definitely talk about like if we do some kind of visioning or something like that. We can create our bubble logo that we've been using our, you know, so that's, there is a lot of potential there so I think that, and with the t shirts, it was also like a decision was that we had, we don't have anything to give away we haven't in a while so it was like we need to do something fun and so and Bobby Hackney is a really great designer and so it was nice to work with him. No, I paid him so yeah he's but he's got a good rate and so yeah. I mean the Oracle world is highly recognizable and fun. Yeah, and I'm also thinking about, could we use a van with all of this stuff on it. The kind of design vehicle. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I might talk to hell Colston about whether good news garage might be able to help us find one. Yeah, he was just in here the other day. So we went to Aruba. Given the way that we're breaking into the community and trying to do things, it would meet his politics. Yeah, I mean it may be having a vehicle that and some of us have given I've given them probably six cards over my life to good news garage. Yeah, it's definitely something to think about I think that that would fit well with a strategic plan to like five years down the road are we going to want something like that. They have it again of the of the cabs and their battle for you have the Oracle vehicle with the artwork on it and some of the gear. You know, take the equipment and camera persons. And I think you know it all in one vehicle. Yeah, I absolutely I think it relates to like how you know there's an expectation that you work for us that you're using your own vehicle to do it. Great, that's awesome. And I think that so that also kind of brings me to the, we are hoping to move forward with Nathan Suter as a consultant on a strategic planning project. And we were we were saying more or less that we could maybe begin the fall or this fall or winter. And some of the like tangible things that we were talking about starting with our like a community needs assessment, right where we like Nathan facilitates us actually reaching out surveying our service area and kind of figuring out maybe what do they think of orca what is the brand you know today, what do they want to see us do more of or less of them or something and then also Nathan proposed like a staff and board retreat so that can be something that we all think about. And that will be more like around the visioning realm like what do we see what are our needs, whether like cultural needs, financial needs. What's the vision we have for ourselves. So I think that that's the next thing to look forward to. You understand goals. So the next item was that we did send out or I sent out the Orca media circles document so it was what we said call the action and if you have any questions now on that, I'm happy to take questions and then as well if we wanted to just like plug some people in now maybe this would be a good time or if you want to respond back to me. I kind of open to ideas there. Yeah, I didn't see the later pages of it until I looked at it again second time that for nation. First circles of trust. Yeah, then diagram. Yeah, please consider that we could actually nail this stuff down in terms of who's on what circle and at this dedicated September meeting. That's what I was thinking that maybe an indicator all about plenty of time to look at assessing this co director model. Yeah, so please yeah please go ahead and do what you're doing but maybe then maybe then many gritty stuff. Well I was perfectly with that. This is a great time to sort of check in and hear what you're saying so we can think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's the last time that we had talked about it was more like in the kind of birds eye view and now it's it's more or less like here's the space that we're hoping to fill. Rather than like actually making any decisions around it. I mean we can take a quick look at it or you can, you know, you can all look at it and write back. Yeah, so yeah. It's the commercial you mentioned bringing me for jumping into this I just haven't heard it come up is the commercial that you mentioned something that you could play us a short of. I think there's a lot of opportunity to reach out again select boards and school boards. Yeah, definitely. So that's something that we're hoping to do with the new community producer. So it's not something that's been produced yet. I want to jump in. It's going to be kind of the left field. Yeah, yeah. My question is, are you all running like a, like a list of things that you need to hit like something visual that's up there like I would like to. I keep hearing like different things like the, like the commercial now updating policies in terms of user like, I think you should consider having a list that's permanent, so that you attack those. Absolutely, different areas like also we talked about HR is that we have that document already done. I would follow the policy circles I understand. So, yeah, so just a quick to answer your question. Yes, we definitely have been doing that part of our like planning meetings that we do on Wednesday is kind of doing a running list of how we feel, you know, the projects, if you will, would live in these circles going in the ones that we feel like we'd be tackled right away like looking at policies and procedures looking at, you know, something that's really straightforward like do we pay for content you know so maybe that that outreach circle would be like is it time to update our brand what is that you know what do we expect from that so maybe be best just kind of all look at that and then visit this in September because there is no I don't think that there's a super urgency tonight to like get into these circles but but to answer your question we are definitely we we as soon as the circles are formed, we have some work for them that, but you know it's going to it's going to be more or less as needed, right so that I don't think that there's like an expectation that you can throw them up. It was already better than what I was able to do. Yes, I don't have to review here we've lost a different press and, and you know I just heard a hint that you guys are having weekly meetings, but I didn't know this is all because our interest is well you're doing a really novel thing. How's it going, you know y'all are you. Yeah. So can you see this. Okay, so this is kind of like the, just the birds that we talked about last meeting, and more or less on the, on the right is like a domain we've been saying like a definition of what the that circle is going to tackle right. And then these are, this is the idea of how they overlap right. And I think it is helpful once you see them like away from each other so this is just like the, all of them at once right so this is the kind of the domain with what we're saying that the work ahead is and how many members we hope to plug into them. And then individually, I think it's more clear so policy circle for example that would be, you know, handling policies and systems, and then potential projects would be like updating the policies and procedures and the employee handbook general policies. Ideally, a board member or two with HR experience interest in diversity, equity inclusion results based accountability things like that that would, and then there would be like a point person from the co directors in this case, Jim. And then there would be a little outreach circle. That would be community engagement realm fundraising advocacy marketing special projects that you can see some potential projects there. So, similar idea the board recruitment section, what kind of we're hoping for there. That would be me right so then facilities. That would be all things physical right equipment it facilities changes to production equipment, thinking about studio thinking about logistics at City Hall, or website update project so that would be Zach, and ideally to board members. And then you would share the education and training. That would live in outreach. Yeah, yeah, I feel like you decide for outreach versus. Yeah, I think we kind of read name some of them but outreach we've kind of feel like is broad enough that that is going to include the arts education and some of our programs and Yeah, I'd like, I have only three days before the event that I wanted to have us be at. And I don't think we probably are going to be at it. It's called summer sky celebration of folk music at Hubbard Park on the 27th of August is Katie Trouts usual winter event. It's been moved to the summer this year. And as all of these other great groups that are there. I don't think anybody's covering it. Oh really. Yeah, we could, we could. I was saying I think once in a while, I liked this group to sort of lay down something where we think something that somebody's doing. Sure, deserves coverage or publicity or be part of what we reach out to the community and do. And this is exactly what I, what I mean is something that instead of Katie Trouts thinking to call us because she's trying to figure out some way to have people with their phones record some of it. I reach out to her and say we would like to at least send a cameraman to be part of this all day event at covered Hubbard Park. That's a great idea Saturday. If you want to leave that with us, we do. For cool. Thanks. One of the things with our new intern which I'll mention is that Jim and myself we were kind of one of the ideas was to have him scour from first forum and seven days and looking at events that you know so that we also can keep our eye on the community and I'd be on that committee because I've got all the day. Okay. Today's world volunteering for the all the stuff we're going to show in the world. Thank God, Jim gets it to them. And we say so right now. Your policy circle. If you are already confident, I think that yeah, we're thinking you for a policy circle. So I'm glad to get that. And I think this is really I think it's so it's you know so much more efficiently in these small groups and I think it's a really good way to engage the board and get us a little bit more involved in sort of those types of activities. But I also just want to say like, don't get too far ahead of the strategic planning either because like that might lead up where a lot of this work goes. So, I think that's another thing to mind. And I wanted to ask about the strategic planning is, I'm doing strategic planning right now at the library and we've created kind of a strategic planning circle that has representation from the staff, the library commission and the friends of the community and is there going to be something like that for the strategic plan or is that kind of envisioned is with you folks taking the lead and us providing input at retreats and things like that. So I think that we like just started to think about how we want to do strategic planning and part of like the community needs a sense of the like the staff needs and what, and we're starting. We'll get a little bit later in the director's report that we're starting to meet with the camera operators a little bit more regularly so that would be a way to try to get more feedback from them so I think when we start to think strategic planning it's definitely we know that we need the community needs assessment so but it's also we'll think you know it's like with the staff and what their visioning that working for Orca means and it's and then the board and so hopefully whether that comes out with the retreats or if it's you know more like with the circle work we're able to maybe do it a little bit more efficiently than just like sometimes the retreats get a little bit long and boring. So it might be that you know we just do these little pocket meetings and then, but I think it's one of those things where I don't know for good has done a strategic plan in the past so it's like talk and talk about it. His name, we did do some work but it didn't really. I don't know, there was a lack of completion I guess you're also reminding me to talk that Nathan has sort of like tears of ways you can access them so it's sort of like strategic planning lights. Yeah, the locks, and he's it's all kind of spelled out maybe that's something. Did Nathan replace Paul Costello. Well, I don't know that we were working with Paul. I thought he was the head of rule. When I was director in the wild. Oh, so Nathan is an outside consultant that just does like. Yeah, because I was thinking Paul Costello. Robert was super helpful in explaining kind of a co director. But in terms of a strategic planning. Yeah, yeah. That's a couple thoughts. Well, first of all, I'm really impressed. Thank you for this terrific report and it's just a really dynamic the energy is terrific. So that's on a positive note, I, you know, you probably heard my well okay. I don't want to say okay but let's check in. And so my, my feedback is positive. Okay, this looks good. Yeah, congratulations. Great job. Super happy that you all seem happy. You're important here the heart of work media so just speaking as one of your, but I think I'm speaking for all of us just looking around room. You know, good job. Yeah, it's actually been a real pleasure to work with you and watch how decisions get made truly collaboratively. Thanks. We lost John block and we lost Senator Doyle. Two of our sort of people who just automatically tended to bring things strategically. And so would you agree, they kind of just had a habit. Um, yeah, and they also had history to the sense of the reach. No, no, no, we lost them on the first second service. Yeah, we work. Yeah, we are. Yeah, yeah, I'm happy to say, yeah, but I think that you've identified something that maybe we weren't aware of ourselves. And I'll just say that, you know, part of what we're hoping and why we are, you know, looking at using Nathan as a consultant is because it is a process and it's something that I feel like you feel strongly that would benefit from somebody outside that has the same experience. Yeah, we did. That's when we first met with Nathan. Who is Nathan and how did you, you know, select them and how much does he charge and these are my questions. I think we all kind of need Nathan from different. So help with the community assessment for the molecular school board so he was part of their district wide visioning committee and he, and so that's where I think we first saw him because he was doing this type of work for the school board. And we're like, Oh, it seems like, you know, he's familiar with the community already because he just did this needs assessment and district wide visioning. So it might be easy or not easier but to use has already established like use the money that the school board like, like got him used to the environment and the community and be able to use that to say, Okay, well, now with our community and so, and it was, and watching him at the school board, it was like, Oh, he seems like, you know, he definitely fits in to the culture that we're trying to bring words, you know, it's all about not making sure he seemed very, very detailed about making sure who's doing the surveys and that it's not just like when he started to see trends that it was just people with a higher education is like, Okay, we need to kind of change it and make sure that it's we're making other ways to get this information so it was nice to see that he was really being thoughtful about trying to get a wide range of what the community is about so that's where we heard about him, and then what he charges I don't remember. He did shop around. We did shop around a little bit and we, we ended up just kind of, I think we were all kind of gravitated towards Nathan just because of this. He's also my former neighbor when I lived in the same houses, john and Rebecca on Liberty street so he was, so he knows john black and Rebecca from Liberty street as well so that's how I first met him. Yeah, share his price. Yeah, I mean, sharing with me with that and September where we can. Well, I was thinking you could share the email people could digest everybody want to see that. Yeah. So I've received that it would be great if everyone had a good sense of Okay, this is the life is great deluxe. Well it's bad and his curriculum be pay and some of the projects he's working on to help us understand his. Yeah. Yeah, I can share that. And then we can have more of an informed discussion in September. And if you have that for the other people that you looked at and rejected, or contendably rejected, that would be great. Sure, your resource for all of us. This group you've identified. Yes, absolutely. We can show that all send it out to all of you and take a look. Um, just reviewed the violence for this meeting to make sure I got the order of operations right by law state that are we elect officers the meeting following the annual meeting, which is, you know, default scheduled for may but can be moved by a motion of the board which we did, leading us to be guys all nailed down an annual meeting. Right, so that's a potential time and the next thing I had here was. Maybe I could just quickly redrew or like just touch on this the staff and our financials and that was like the next. Okay. Yeah, so I just wanted to let y'all know that we did hire three new camera operators. Liam, our intern through the Vermont youth employment program has left but now we have math we just started on Monday through the Vermont program. So, Liam had a great experience and we did some kind of feedback and review and Liam hopes to come back in the summer. So as far as finances. I could just kind of read what we have here, we did get the check from Comcast for 107,910 dollars. Then we have our accounts listed here, which I can read through, or you can take a look. And then we have a little bit more information to just this says a little bit more information on the statewide regional work that we've been doing with van. We're kind of part of this larger conversation that is more in the information gathering phase. But it's basically Eric forward of Vermont public is trying to facilitate a meeting with Sergeant arms to try to figure out what is going to happen in the Senate chambers the House chambers and the committee rooms as far as like, live streaming, and how community media organizations can tap into that conversation and be part of that as they make some decisions. So then in our grand upcoming formerly hard to do, which I rebranded as upcoming is creating that video commercial and working with the community producer maybe some of our interns to really do something that we have as like filler on the channel that says, you know, you're watching working media, this is the services and resources that we provide and, you know how you can engage with us. So that's something that is to come. And then of course, the big thing that we wanted to determine was the date for the open house. So that's been on our list and the dates here that I have are the Friday, September 23 or Friday, September 30. And then so hoping to maybe make a decision about that. And then we can move forward with our right. And our next our sort of assessment of our management model is the 27, just to keep all our late September ducks in a row. That helps people lean one way or the other. It looks like the 30s might work a little better. Of the two that you mentioned. But what today's this Friday, the 23rd or the 30. This would be an evening event. Traditionally, it's like four to six. The thing towards the end of business hours. Yeah, it's usually still light out. Okay. So maybe we start similar time and maybe 30th is better for me. Okay, all right, so that's a consensus choice. And also, if we're meeting the 27th and there are some new sense of story about. We got our heads together on the 27th to two and so. And we do have our 27th or Christian board meeting. Yeah. Yeah. And I also, yeah, I like the idea of maybe we even invite Cassandra to the open house, you know, seeing as the bridge is right here. So Cassandra's mentioned here and I have this arrow and a question. Who is Cassandra. Oh, she's the managing editor at the bridge. Okay. And the bridge. I'm in the way. Oh, yeah. Anyway, the bridge is our local free community newspaper. Yeah, I think they call themselves. Yeah, there's the bridge. It's a way out. Technically it's molecular and surrounding communities, but I don't think that it gets very far outside of. So Eric Ford didn't make the minutes or the schedule tonight so I'm writing in. Eric Ford didn't show up on the thing you were talking about it statewide original meeting with Eric Ford, didn't get in that paragraph so I'm, I'm assuming that that that did happen or will happen or that you've got the connection with Eric Ford, the guy who's I don't have it yet. We're there. It's kind of just a big email. I want to be, my whole thing is trying to connect the various media. I would have talked tonight about you trying to connect with both dev and GDR and GDH. But anyway, I won't do that because we're pretty busy. Yeah, well, I've been having ongoing conversations with Lou over at WG. It wasn't there, but it wasn't live. Well, it's incredibly relevant. Schools. My next. Just to ask you politically correct question. If so pride is a nationwide movement. It probably was the deciding financial source in the recent primaries democratic primary for the congressional race Becca was able to mobilize a lot of money coming in from the right movement. So it's, it's important. I think it's another nationwide movement. What happens if somebody comes in and says would you sponsor our NRA event? I mean, so, as far as sponsorship goes, I think that it, it's of course, a case by case basis. This was. This was a local group. Right. So this was my pillar of pride is a local NRA group. I trust me, I have gun owners all around me in East Randolph. If, if that happened, I think we would want to discuss it as an organization and as co-directors. So I can't say yes or no right now. Yeah. So we have a issue because the right. Possibly just something. Right. And it was like, Oh God, really? Yeah. I was going to say, so part of the policies is that we are clarifying and coming up with how we determined. So that's where, like with sponsorship, we were like, Okay, well, what, how do we determine whether some group gets it or not. We were a little bit loosey loosey before. So now as we are trying to pin down our policies and procedures. So like with content, like, I know, like, when we did the primary, like we sent an email out to the Democrats and the Republicans and the progress. So we sent out to all three. Yeah. And then whoever responded, we, you know, we covered. And so we do. We do try to be conscious of how we're making sure that we're hitting everything. And I think that that just needs to filter in through all the other policies. And I think we are, when we talk, we're trying to be, we are like, okay, what were the assumptions before and were we basing it on like, Oh, you know, it was what we did, but then it's like, okay, let's come up with some criteria. And I think that that is like, as we move forward, it is one of our major, I think this that we're trying to really kind of filter out through all the policies that we are being fair. And if we make an effort here, we make an effort there and that and so a lot of times what we've said is, we have the form online that says about coverage. So anyone who wants us to come regardless of who they are. If we have the staff capacity, we will send them to and I think we've gotten some unlike in terms of the conservative stuff, like some people that have reached out to us do the coverage form saying, you know, could you cover us and we sent someone. And it's one of those things where we do, like, we tried to, if they want us we'll go if we, you know, with the staffing, but in terms of if we do inquire and I think when we do the primary stuff if we're doing any election coverage, that we are trying to be sending out to everyone and trying to be like that. So I think it is definitely, we are always kind of looking at what are some of the biases we might be harboring and trying to be like, okay, well, you know, it's. So I, we do definitely recognize that it's there and we are trying to be more mindful of being fair. So, I wanted to say something. I do do. I think, well, for example, the NRA group, we could sponsor them with the channel with the cameras are other ways in which we sponsored people right. So I'm thinking like we were, we had a conversation a few meetings back where we're talking about clean bonds about, you know, what are the bonds so that is also right where yeah, this is what we believe it right a little bit. So that's the same funding right so yeah. So how do we see so I don't see this as a bad thing saying I'm going to support you with money, and I'm going to support you with cameras. It's different, but I think it's fine. I don't know right. I mean, I think, I think we just. That's so polarized right now. Yeah, to say, oh, able to know there must be left wing and pride events must be left wing because there's gay Republicans and I mean I just, that's sort of like well. We already already putting people in the categories I just think we broadly try to get people. Yeah, not often organization soliciting us for sponsorship I mean this has been, I think we've had this summer, you know so it's like it's more likely that an organization that isn't very well healed it's going to turn to us, because the NRA has, they've got, they've got their own, both of them are huge. They are massive, but I, I am, I like to when you said, I said, though, when you spoke up and you said we are we reached out. Yeah, we do. You know, and that's, yeah, I know I wrote down about I want to be able to answer that like hey I'm part of an organization that reached out if they didn't say yes. Yeah, I hope you'll reach out again because part of the thing that that I think makes or media specialist the opportunity to truly try to be a fourth estate that which is missing the fourth estate, the perception of the fourth estate whether it's reality or not is so broadly that it is as tainted as Congress as you know as the judicial system ever since the decision that judges could accept political, you know, contributions to that Minnesota decision. It's so the opportunity is community television is a believable statement that we are really trying to be a voice for Go ahead. We are doing it because that's why I brought the schedule. You should actually look at it. There's a panel on guns. There's a racial disparity at discussion. There's the OSHA to Lifeline Institute, whatever the person in OSHA talks goes on our television said it doesn't say it's a conservative or it's a liberal. The OSHA people talk about what they're an expert about. So if we're already showing this stuff that they think the question was whether it's sponsorship means a different kind of invitation, because we cover a lot of different areas and believe me, I'll leave you the schedule. It's in the world every week, and all of the three channels that we carry, they're all here. Right. And you'd be surprised that it's not you can't say oh wow this probably could be a right wing gun panel discussion I why are we running it. Yeah, thank you. Our expert. Well I'm on media. And I think that also that's something for the outreach circle to determine like what happens when somebody asks us for a financial sponsorship because obviously that, you know, that could be. What's just know I mean that part of what originally what you guys said or you've been buried by attack but but was, you know, this year, what you do is more important than what you say and Jen said this is what we are doing. And but your report, I went down and I was like, All right, I know my neighbors. And I was like, they're going to be like this early. So, the, and this is also what you do. The report. When I read the report, I was like, This is terrific. And I was like, However, it may make the some people feel left out. Is it is it okay for her nonprofit to support the things they believe in right that's that's a question. That's a great question. Yeah, I think that's something that I also think about because we are. Yeah, we are people, you know, and that we're running an organization so we have every, you know, we have by all means like as we envision what we, you know, want to be and what we want to say in the context that's something important. And I'll add to that like, anybody is welcome to, you know, engage with us and our services and our resources if they, for some reason do feel like they're not seen or heard at our organization you know that's why just like a library you know we want to make it very obvious what we provide and how to contact us. If you are going to be supporting what you believe in, and the mission is to be a force of state, be a, you know, a voice for all. Then you need to make sure that whoever is what you know that your collection of what you all believe is your part as a board member. Right. And I'm not particularly conservative, but I also really talk to my neighbors a lot. And I didn't like standing up in the EC fiber meetings and sending out a document saying there's money missing. That wasn't that did not make me possible if possible popular at all and it's not really feeling great to be like hey where are the guns, you know, like where the programs, but I'm from a neighborhood where that's my community and there's, you know, that's a big, and that in Vermont. I know because I, you know, see them at the local store, they're like we have no voice here, you know to the county is overwhelmingly covering the voting and so that, and that is, as Mike said, we're in a country that's terribly polarized. So I want to, you know, my, my voice just seeking as one person is to encourage us to take advantage of this unique opportunity that we have to be a credible voice for the entire community and a bridge to be part of the bridge to be part of that bridge. Oh, sir. Yes, I'm. Any more old business, we can move to new business. Any new business I think the newest businesses. I think we've, we basically built the agenda for September 27. Tonight, but we need to actually formalize, you know, you know, let's assess the new model circles strategic planning. And that'll be will be off of the we won't have to do the financials so we can really nicely. We won't have enough or October meeting. So this September meeting was tested model. Oh, yes. Yes, the nail down the circles and and we'll have all been able to look at the strategic planning tiers that Nathan's offering and make a decision hopefully then as well. If people are going to get themselves up to speed once they get the document. So that'll be an and it'll also be what three days before the annual meeting so any loose ends there. So basically, it's great when you suggested that three months assessment CJ is like that's off. It's off our rhythm, but it's actually falling in really nicely with some work we have to do. Well, we don't have to go through the general regular meeting. So we can customize this agenda. Yes. So what's going on at that time, September 30 is the fall festivals of all kinds. We'll be going on here, you know, would be. Yeah, yeah. And foliage festival maple corner festival maybe blue barn barn stop magic year. They're all around that's the prime tourist at time. We're going into October. So I just want to remember what it's also an election year and inviting candidates to come and sing our praises to capture that a little video for the channel. Yeah, nice. For the open house. Yeah. Yeah. And it's our first. It's our first open house in our quote unquote new facility, even though we're pretty well. We've been here for a few years here. So it's it's that's a that's a real nice milestone and then to roll out this democratic leadership model. It's just I just see us and kind of keep growing into our own and really nice way. And I'll add to that, you know, we are in talks with the bridge about doing a candidate forums for the general election so we'll have more information. We've been posting things and so they'll be stuff happening at the end of September anyway so maybe we could tag that to the. I mean, with the, the idea of the bridge and the meeting, the annual meeting and open house. Is it something we might want to consider doing the bridge interview thing ahead of time to play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. I think it's a little tight because of, you know, we're having this special meeting on 27. That's why I'm saying should do we need to wait until a special meeting or should we just really appreciate that. Yeah. Do we feel comfortable sort of going public with our leadership model prior to that. That was a great question. Yeah, yeah, if we want to use that to terms of bank for the buck. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be comfortable with saying that the board is tentatively approved a very unusual co-director model and that at the initial check in, we feel very positive. Yeah, yeah. We're moving forward. Yeah, so we could roll that article out and then it could be inclusive of the annual meeting. That's really wise. Yeah, thank you. That's right. What do you mean, what do you have you been on the staff page. I submitted something, you know, seven or something. We should touch it update that. So it was a kind of a decision. I asked Mike as our chairman, whether we had a current set of sort of because we have some new board members. We have a pretty wide. Yeah, I mean, they came in as board members were at it. I don't think they're all in one folder somewhere. Could very easily a little bio and having a place where those are. It's a good talk for the web. And for the annual meeting just for, yeah, everyone's access. Well, we haven't seen any reasons. You're new in this everywhere, you know, facility. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have, you know, all these five articles. I'm trying to rebrand the organization and, you know, do your outreach, the way that you're trying to do it. It be able to go in and look around and like it's all there. It gives this great feeling of an organized solid. Yeah. Tradition. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it because when was the last annual meeting. We basically did it as a PowerPoint. Oh, it was just, okay, you know, it's a virtual for that interview for the bridge. Get some blurbs you have some good blurbs from different people. So this is our group. This is what people are saying about us already from the start. Oh, you mean so okay. For your, for your reporter, they're going to ask you, hey, so, you know, with SD, this is what they said, you know, Can I reach out to you guys over email and just say, Hey, do you have any, yeah, like, can I get a quote from? Yeah, that's a little talk like we ought to use this. I'll follow up with you, Sandra. Yeah. And we just do the board thing like, you know, the board has. Yeah. Yeah, I think quoting different staff and different board members and community uses with, I mean, I bet she knows how to build an article. Yeah, I mean, we'll be a reasonable person makes that. We can still use what John used to use with just a quad in front of the college for tents for an annual meeting because it's pink color season. Yeah, now towards the aspect. I'm going to have to. Yeah, we're going to wrap up with a little office over there. I don't think you're going to miss much, but yeah, thanks for getting us time. Time conscious. Grab some pizza to go for the race. Appreciate it. Um, how we feeling on this new business topic. That's good. So go ahead. Just to be clear. Reach back off of Sandra, say that we're ready to do an article at her. I hope she can highlight the annual meeting as well. We just the 30th. So we got a lot of them. What's the cycle on their paper. Oh, that's a good question because. Oh, is it not passed? I think it's every two weeks. Well, this would fit within the next one that they're hoping to do is the deadline is the second for ads. I know, and it's arts theme. All arts, it's called. Okay. I'm late for outside. Yeah, that's a good time. I mean, we are a media art. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Molly Grace campaign get back in touch with you. Did you guys do anything for Molly? No, I think so we didn't read. So I think, um, in terms of the, so we reached out for like the, the parties at the, the primary parties. So that's where we reached out. So the other groups, like, I think the candidate forms that we did have it was those organizations reached out to us and said, could you cover us? Yeah. Yeah. We didn't have anything covering for primary night. So then we're like, well, maybe they're doing something and having speeches or something. So then that was where I think, um, I may have missed earlier about the forms, but that was where we reached out to all three and said, what's happening? Are you, you know, if you would cover something speeches. And I think only the Democrats reached back or said anything, but was it only back or was it back in all? It was the Vermont. So we reached out to the group. We reached out to the same group and then they just said, are you going to cover a variety? Is not like individual. Candidates. We reached out to the or like the umbrella organization, not event. I did check if there was any candidate events and there. As far as like, I couldn't find any. So, right. To see if there's any like, oh, where I'm making my public. We just catch her Molly and a VCF thing. Canada. the barnstorm at the State House event with Becca Belen and Bernie Sanders, so that was why I was like the whole thing. I think that was primarily Bernie. Whenever Bernie's around, we send someone, and so it happened to me because he was doing the back of day. It was a high engagement, good count. His endorsement was key for her. But just for Orca, the video count of how many people watched that, 90 cents. Yeah, I would say that 90, well I would say 90 percent of what we covered were just very traditional, like there was one hosted by rural Vermont, and it was just all the candidates at the table, two minutes each. Let's go on the question. So it was like it was mostly that, I mean, there was one, yeah, the Independent Living Association hosted. Yeah, at least two. And those were all organizations that knew us and reached out to us and asked us to cover. So it was nice to know that we were out there as a resource for everyone to use. So I think like the Washington Six and the Washington Five were like the towns were sponsoring or hosting it. And so they, it was, so in terms of we're trying to get us out there to be known as a resource, and so like by then they're reaching out and saying, oh, you know, can you cover it? Like one of the indicators I think we're thinking of tracking is how many event requests come through the website to have us, you know, is that number increasing, which is what we want, is that more people are reaching out to us to say, ooh, you know, can you cover us? We haven't, we're having this thing or, you know, we saw. So hopefully that part, I think our numbers are increasing as more people are reaching out. We tend to go with, if they ask us and we can, we do, regardless of, you know, and we don't really look at what topic is being covered. It's just like, oh, do we have someone who can cover it? And it's in a format that makes sense that it's, you know, it's not like breakout circles. It's more like, you know, there's a talk in, so. And it fits in our area. And sometimes it's like, yeah, we're doing this in Burlington. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I was going to say, we, I think the orange was kind of far, it was in Rochester. So I mean, we are trying to like broaden our groups that we reach or that reach out to us. So when orange, it's like, oh, yeah, we'll be there. Right. Right. That helps you because remember how long, how much we were trying to find a board number from the Rochester area. Yeah, we're doing all right now. There's no retirement spending that I've heard of. Yeah. But we may be seeking a board member at some point. And we're just thinking about the. I'm really starting to fade very long back. Yeah. Is it the time that I did call? It's our first day with kids tomorrow. Yeah. I could leave the floor open and designate someone else as the adjourner. If you guys want to keep going. We're going to turn it right now. This is an adjourn. Good work, everyone. Thank you. All right. Say 40, say 43. You're going to make the call. Yeah, I think I just did. Thanks.