 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this voluptuous and bodacious episode of Hello There. Oh, mind. So curvy. Do you have one of those dictionary things that gives you the word of the day? No. Oh, you don't get it. I like the word voluptuous. I do, but I never use them. You know what it is. They send weird words. It's not voluptuous. How many is that in my u-bar? Doesn't it sound like it should be voluptuous? Doesn't that sound more like appropriate? A voluptuous? Like voluptuous. Makes sense more than voluptuous. Is there not an M in there? It sounds more tasty. There isn't. It's just volupt. I would have spelled it with an M. With an M? In the future. Well, anyway, for the first 45 minutes, we do our introductory conversation. We talk about hustle con. It's the hustle con. That shit is coming up. Look, if you're an entrepreneur or if you want to be an entrepreneur or you just like to be a smart person. Or you just run in place and hustle. June 22nd in Oakland. This is an event with great speakers. It's a great meeting of the minds. We are giving you guys, we actually get the hookup, $150 off the ticket. It's exclusive. Go to hustle con. That's a massive discount sale. It is. Hustlecon.com. Enter the code MIMEPUMP get $150 off. I thought we talked about a bunch of other stuff before that. Doug, was you sleeping on the job? Just not taking notes with me? I don't know. I'm not. You opened up with that. That's why I put it there. Yeah. That's right. It's ice. Oh. There you go, Adam. Oh. Then we talk about MIMEPUMP. That's what I get for questioning the producer. As a cake. Fucking check. If checked to me real quick. If MIMEPUMP was a cake, who would be the frosting? Find out. Gotta listen. Gotta make up the meat of it. Gotta listen. Then we talked about the recipe for Organifi Golden Milk. It's the golden latte. Doesn't that sound like it comes from the teat of a female god or something? Yeah. Golden milk. Golden yak. Go to OrganifiShop.com and do the code MIMEPUMP. You will get a 20% discount on all of their supplements. Or you can go to Organifi.com. Thanks, Doug. Yeah. For messing that up. It's good. We talk about MIT and the psychopath artificial intelligent machine called Norman. Can we put a stop to these crazy ideas? What the fuck are they doing? What is going on? Then we talk about Russell Burger, who is the chief knowledge officer of CrossFit and who got fired. Is he an asshole? For talking, for saying that being gay is a sin or celebrating pride is a sin. Yep. Anyway, then we get into the questions. The first question was, this person took a VO2 max test. Usually only does jujitsu for endurance. Wasn't necessarily satisfied with their endurance test on the treadmill. Should they test their endurance at things they're not good at in order to see what their endurance is at? We get into VO2 testing, endurance testing. How to improve your endurance. A lot of stuff in that part of the episode. Yeah, what's the worth of those tests? The next question was set points. Do they exist? Does your body just want to be at a body weight and no matter what you do, it's going to force you to get to that body weight? Is that false? Is that real? Next question. This person wants to understand the best way to warm up. Is warming up just a way to prevent injuries or is there much more to it? We talk a little bit about priming and how important that is to your overall success. Then the final question. Have we ever thought about philanthropy through mind pump? Have we ever thought about helping charities or other causes besides helping ourselves? Yeah. First you got to help yourself. That's right. Also, this month we have a promotion running all month long. We literally took the price of maps anywhere and cut it in half. Whoa. In half. Maps anywhere as a program requires almost no equipment can be done anywhere. It is a great way to break up your workout. So if you're following any of our maps programs or anything else and you want to kind of do a deload or you want to change it up, do maps anywhere for about four weeks, jump back on a normal routine, watch what happens. It's 50% off. Check out the videos. We shot it in Sal's grandmother's house. You'll love it. That's right. We also, we did mention Maps Prime in this episode. The Prime Pro Bundle is also available. All of our programs actually are available at mindpumpmedia.com. Go check them out. Don't forget it's a 30-day money back guarantee. T-shirt time. And it's T-shirt time. Yes. My favorite time. 21 reviews, six shirts going out. Not bad. Okay. The winners are Lea Baer, Firebird, Boy 300, M-Hubku DC, Dylan McFarts. Yes. There it is. Justin's fans. Did you say Dillard or Dylan? Dylan. Okay. Yeah. And HMO 125. Dillard McFarts. All of you are winners. Send the name I just read to my email at itunes at mindpumpmedia.com. Send your shirt size, your shipping address, and we'll get that right out to you. Are you guys going? Is anybody else going besides Taylor? I think Taylor's bringing Eli. So Taylor and Eli will be at Hustlecom. Yeah. Instead of us. I wouldn't mind going to listen to the blue coffee. No, I wouldn't mind going either. If we can make it, is it this weekend or the following weekend? June 22nd. Oh, are we in LA? What's the date right now? Today's the 11th. Today's the 11th. June 22nd, next Friday. We will be probably coming back from LA. Oh, it's a Friday. Hustlecom's a Friday, not a Saturday? Yeah. Oh, I just assumed that it was on the weekend. I didn't know that. I'm glad you brought that up, Doug. It's because hustlers like to go on a Friday, bro. Because I'm hustling, baby. And I want you to know. Yeah. It's almost like you turned it into a rock song. Oh, yeah? Yeah, you did a little bit. 22nd is Friday. You're right, Doug. I always do that. God, Doug, what would we do without you? It's kind of a rocker job. What do you guys want to do with Doug? If we didn't have Doug, what would we do? What would we do? What would we do? What would we do? What would we do? What would we do? That's a throwback. What do you think Mind Pump would have been without Doug? Without Doug? Yeah. For sure, we would have had great conversations about this great podcast that we would have started. It never would have gotten captured. Never, ever would have gotten captured. It would have been one of those ideas that I was like, damn, that would have been good. Like, you're so funny, Sal. Yeah. Don't you think we should have a podcast? Nobody ever knows. Who knows? Yeah, open your computer. What does it look like? I don't know. I have no idea. We would have been running a lot slower. It wouldn't have been possible. Let me put it this way. Okay. Can you bake a cake without one of the ingredients? Without the oven. Yeah. Without the eggs. Yeah. Actually, you can. Actually, you can. Put it out in the sun. Yeah. You could argue that Doug is the oven and worthy of the ingredients. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. For sure. Yeah, you could argue that. And let's be honest. Let's be honest. Okay. And this is no knock on Doug. Raw cake mix is still delicious. I would still eat it. Yeah. You'd be eating batter. See, that's a better analogy of it. Yeah. Cake batter is delicious, but it's not cake. Right. But you get sick of it. You know, you eat too much. Yeah. It's so condensed. And salmonella. Right. Salmonella. Yeah. And you can't have salmonella without salmonella. And no one's sticking candles in it and blowing it. I'm the salmonella. You got to cook the salmonella. Yeah, exactly. For it to be tolerable. You know what I mean? Otherwise, you get really. You're the milk. Dissentary. You're definitely the milk. I'm the milk. Yeah. You're for sure the milk. 100%. He is. I feel like the frosting. Yeah. Because it's like, oh, that's, that looks nice. Like you think you don't need it. Look how pretty it is. Like people are like, you don't need the frosting. You could just. It's like, right? There's definitely listeners. They're like, why do you even have Adam? He's not necessary. That's so true. Right. Because without the frosting, we would just be a muffin. Exactly. Fuck the fuck muffins. We'd be a big, spongy muffin. Oh. You know what I'm saying? Grainy fucking like wheat muffin. It's A. Some people like muffins. Yeah. Like you're the frosting. I'm probably the eggs, right? Because if you don't put the eggs in there, you know. Yeah, that makes sense. No, there's no like, you know. Does it work? There's no egginess. Yeah. It's not fluffy. There's no proteins. Yeah. We need the protein. We do. Yeah. Mine pumps the cake. You know, speaking of foods and better. You know what I did this weekend? I haven't done it. I haven't done in a while is get on Organifi. Organifi has a great blog. So I know I shared this when we first got sponsored by them. And I haven't really brought it up in a while because personally I haven't been getting on there and using the recipes. But on their blogs, if you go to Organifi.com and you go all the way to the bottom, there's a blog link. And they always post really cool stuff, like different recipes. And sometimes the recipes aren't even called for any of their products. So if someone's listening right now, it's not like... It doesn't have to be with Organifi. Yeah, it doesn't. I mean, some of their stuff. And I made this latte, this golden milk latte with a fresh turmeric. Or you're supposed to use fresh turmeric. Or they give you the option to use the gold juice. I've seen that. It's gaining popularity. The golden lattes, they call it. Turmeric is fucking miracle root. I'm telling you right now. You start consuming that shit in regular doses. And make sure you have a fat with it because that's how you absorb or... So let me hook the audience up with the recipe because I pulled it up for you because I was thinking about this. So we have two cups of almond milk or coconut milk works. Two teaspoons of honey or maple syrup. Two knobs of fresh turmeric or basically like a tablespoon. So this was where I replaced it because I have the Organifi turmeric pills. And I was like, okay, I could crack them open. But you can actually use a tablespoon of the orange juice instead. Gold juice. Yeah, the gold juice. I always want to call it orange. It's orange to me, right? It's not. It's not gold to me. Well, I know it's gold for marketing reasons and that's what they say. But it's fucking orange to me. And the powder is expensive. The powder is orange. The label is orange to me. You know what, though? Gold, you're right, is way more marketable because if they called it orange juice. Of course. It would work. That's what orange juice. Right, so my bad Organifi. I know it's a terrible commercial for you. So then you go two knobs of fresh ginger, one stick of cinnamon, and then a pinch of black pepper, and then a shot of espresso. Two knobs and ginger. Sounds like a movie you saw, Justin. Dude, it's like a retro one. So if you have turmeric, you can just use that. If you already own the Organifi. Then the skipper. Gold juice. Then you can use that. The skipper. I know what you're talking about. You should get the skipper, ginger, and two knobs. I mean, it's happening. It's a party. You're referencing fucking Gilligan's Island. I am, yeah. Goddamn. Makes you old. Nobody knows what Gilligan's Island does. What a great. Some of our audience says, I think what's our average 20 or 25 to 35 is our sweet spot of people. How do we know that? I like the challenge people to see just if they can like remember that far back. Gilligan's Island was a fake show because for sure they would have all either, well, died and those poor girls, there were two girls and a bunch of dudes on an island. Yeah. That would have been bad. They would have not been like in life. King Bing Island would have been the name of the show. I'd like to see somebody try and make one like today that's supposed to be like the same kind of storyline, but it's today. How they would, what things they would change, make it different. Did you guys watch a drift yet? Speaking of which. No, we haven't watched it. I'm telling you, dude. I'm telling you. We pulled it up. So Katrina and I, what did we go see? We went and saw. What did I go see? I can't even think of what I went saw. Not Avengers. What's the other good one that's out right now that I really liked? I think I brought it up on the show. Not Avengers? Solo? No. It's not the one. No, no, no. Isn't there one where upgrade? Did you watch upgrade yet? No. Have you guys seen that? You're just spying and becomes a badass? No. It looks kind of dumb, but it got good reviews. So I think I might watch it. Really? It's an action film. You know what I mean? I'm not usually into just watching action films. I used to be when I was a kid, but now I'm like, You know what's funny? We know Katrina likes that. Just stupid action films? Yes, just shoot them up movies. I find it so fascinating that my girlfriend likes that. Really? That's interesting, she likes it. Yes, she loves a good action pack movie. I think, which is cool, because sometimes I'm in the mood for that. We turn on them, we get upstairs, we have the theater set up, right? So we go upstairs, crank up the surround sound. Like expendables? Yeah, right. Mindless fucking explosions and shit. I'm the one who wants a deeper twisted plot. Me too. I want to be fucked up at the end of it. Yeah, when I'm watching a movie, Deadpool, that was the one I just watched. I think I shared that already. Did you see it? Did you like it? I love it. I want to see it so bad. It's really good, Justin. It's really good. It dies at the end, but it's still good. It's worth going to see it again for sure. I watched it over the weekend with my son, because my boy now, he's 12, he's about to turn 13, and I always push the limit, because I'm always like, oh shit, is he old enough to do like shit that I want to do now with him? So I'm like, let's watch a legit, intense, scary movie together, you know? So I put World War Z on. Have you guys seen that? The zombie one? That movie from start to finish is anxiety. If you haven't watched it, it's from beginning... It's just hordes of zombie people. From beginning to end, it's anxiety the entire time, and it's fucking intense, and it's definitely fucking scary, right? And he doesn't really watch that kind of stuff. So I put it on, we're watching it together. So you gave him nightmares. Right before bed, we're watching it. Oh, man. And he gets up to go to the bathroom, so I push pause, and he comes back, and he goes, can we watch the rest tomorrow? And I'm like, well, you still have 30 minutes before bed. He goes, I know I don't want to end with this and then go right to bed. He goes, I want 30 minutes in between, so I started cracking up. Oh, so... I started cracking up. That's so funny, because Katrina does this. If we watch something that is at all negative or violent or bloody, gory or scary, which we don't even watch a lot of scary movies, she has to watch something else before bed. I don't care if we're watching something that ends at midnight. I'll go right to sleep. Me too. I don't dream about it or anything. But she's like, I got to put something lighthearted on first, and so she'll watch a sitcom for one episode and then goes to bed, and she can't go to bed. No, I'll go right to... I can watch the most disturbing thing and go right to bed. I'll go to sleep right halfway through it. I don't care. I like that, though. I like being fucked with when it comes to movies. I don't like being put on edge, so I'm not a scary movie guy. That's right. You told us that. I don't like feeling... I don't like having anxiety when I'm watching a movie. I do. Because when I watch a movie, it's like... it's my escape. That's the way I look at it. It's all day long. Got all this stuff going on. My brain's going a million miles an hour, whatever is going on. And if I've decided that I'm going to sit down and veg out and watch television, I want to be purely entertained. And for me, scaring the fuck out of myself is not entertaining. Oh, it's so fun. It's just nice. I used to be really into it. But yeah, it would always... it would depend on the genre. So if it was just like a slasher one, that used to be fun for some reason. You know, it's just like... I guess it's just because of the video game, you know, kind of culturally grow up with like, what was that one game? Slaughterhouse? Remember that game? Yeah. Oh, that was one of the best games. You just walk around the machete and... That was really good. I don't mind it. I like it because then I turn it off and I know it's... Okay, the movie's off. I had this great feeling. But now I'm safe. You know what it reminds me of? One of the best and worst feelings in the world is when you have a terrible dream. And then the moment you wake up and realize, oh, it was just a dream. Isn't that the greatest relieving feeling of all time? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Whenever it happened to you, we just had this terrible dream. You're scared. Then you wake up and you're like, oh, fuck, it was a dream. Like, yes! Oh, see, when I wake up from a dream like that, it's like, fuck, is that real? Really? Yeah. You have trouble discerning reality from fantasy? Yeah. Well, it depends on how real of a dream. Like, if it's something stupid where it's like a zombie chasing me and stuff like that, and I wake up and I'm like, there's probably not any zombies chasing me right now. But if it's like, normally like a disturbing, scary, you know, dream for me is like real. What's the last dream you had that was fucked up? Oh, dude, that's a good question. Why are you always in the middle of the day? Like when I daydream, or not daydream, but like when I'm sleeping and I have a nap, I always had the most fucked up dreams then. Like I never have like, it's weird. I don't have like a lot of nightmares like at night. I usually just have them when I'm sleeping during the day. But that one was like, there was these creatures that were following me and jumping from tree to tree, trying to kill me. And I was like running as fast as I could and they kept like jumping and looking at me with red eyes and shit. It was freaky. That is kind of freaky. That was a little bit fucked up. I couldn't even jump on me and I woke up. Damn. That's how it ended too. The worst dreams I've ever had are ones where stuff might happen to my kids and my dreams. Oh, those are terrible. Because in my dreams, I'm so like distraught and it's just such a terrible. But then I wake up and I'm like, oh fuck, it was just a dream. Best feeling ever. Yes, my bad dreams are things like that. Like waking up and then coming to work and there's no work or something. Mind pump doesn't exist anymore. We have a meeting. Yes, we all have a meeting. We don't need icing on cake anymore. Adam, we're going muffins. Somewhere it's shifted. We're going straight muffins. We think your role will be better played off the show. Elsewhere. We have another role for you. Even though I haven't had that dream, those are the more of the type of dreams that I have that I would consider scary. You know what I feel like? I don't have gobbles here. I feel like if any of us ever kicked any of us off, like if any of us ever kicked one of us off, we would be hell bent on revenge, like revenge success. You know what I'm saying? Like all of us would be like, we'd have to you know, bite it and be like, all right, I understand and leave and be like, just get like a fabricated salad. I'll show those motherfuckers. I'm going to invent something. A perfect example is a scene of watching our boy, a podcast with a bro, a harbinger right now. I mean, you're watching Jordan rise again, dude, after you know, the break. He's killing it, dude. Yeah. I mean, I think we're, that's where I were all connected and friends, right? I think we all are a lot of like like that. Like it's like, okay, you're going to fuck me. All right. Yeah. Watch me do this shit by myself. What a big mistake they made. Such a stupid mistake. I wish I knew what was going on on their side house. Obviously we know, we know the success that he's having already, but it'd be interesting to see. Nobody cares. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. It is true. Sorry. Yeah, the show was Jordan. He was the show. Hate to say it guys. Dude, talking about fucked up shit. Did you guys hear what MIT did? No. Okay. So this is the problem that I have with science, because I don't typically have issues with science, except when science just decides to do something just because they can. Yeah. So what they did is they had an AI machine. They created this artificial intelligent program and they fed it Reddit, you know the site Reddit. And they fed it pages from Reddit that only talked about, because there's pages on Reddit that talk about graphic, murder, and disturbing shit. So that's all they did is gave this AI machine. Why? This information just to see what would happen. Alrighty. That's a horrible idea. Just to see what happened. They had to turn it off because it started showing disturbing algorithms. And so what they did was, do you guys know what a warshark, what's it called warshark? Warshark. Warshark. I think it's Rorschach. Rorschark test or whatever. Right. Where you see the blob, the ink blob, and you make sense of it. You have to make sense of it. So they first fed this AI machine, these pages from Reddit that talked about, you know, death and destruction and racism. All this terrible, terrible stuff. And then they said, what do you see when you look at these ink blots? So they showed an ink block. I'll read some of them to you. Oh my God. They had a normal AI machine interpreted and then they had the Norman. They actually named it Norman. By the way, do you know where the name Norman came from? Yeah. That's the psycho. That's the fucking dude in psycho. Not only did these cocksuckers make an AI machine evil, but then they named it Norman. Who the fuck are these people doing? Because they're fucking smart people who are bored. Let's see what we can do. Yeah, let's see what we can do. Let's watch this movie. So the normal AI machine. This is why these crazy ass movies as kids that we watched that we thought were like so unbelievable is believable, dude. Terminator might happen because some dumbass kids are fucking around. And they're going to call it Skynet, just to be ironic. Yeah. So funny. Funny job. It just kills everybody. Oh, no. Way to go. Yeah. So they showed an inkblot and the standard AI said, a black and white photo of a small bird. I'm looking at the inkblot right now, right? So, okay, that sounds normal. Norman said, man gets pulled into a dough machine. Okay, that's interesting. Next inkblot. A black and white photo of a baseball glove. Oh, that's cool. Norman says, man is murdered by machine gun and broad daylight. Okay. Wow. Okay. The next one. A person is holding an umbrella in the air. Okay. Thank you, AI machine. Norman, what do you think? Man is shot dead in front of a screaming wife. Okay. We're going to turn this off now. Holy shit, that's dark. Yeah, we're going to turn this off. That's fucked up, bro. What are we doing? Why? What are we doing? What did we think? I don't know. If you feed them all, you feed them that information. That's what they wanted to see. Yeah, that's all they're going to visualize. I don't know what's going on. That's where our taxpayer money's going. No, no, it's MIT. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's private. Go ahead. I mean, at least they're not spending my money on this shit. Can you believe that? That's ridiculous. What are we going to do? Like, what are these things? I don't know. It's going to happen. It's something bad's going to happen. Whatever. There is. Whatever. When this shit hits the fan. You know what I heard, and I don't know. We can look this up, but I definitely heard Joe Rogan talking about some robot that they created that like can like, he was like, like it eats organic material in a sense and it fuels the robot. So like it can actually break it down and create energy out of it. Oh, nice. So it fucking eats human food? Yes. So that was the thing. It was like, what are they going to have these robots? Like on the battlefield, then they're just going to eat like the dead remains of people. Like how fucking creepy is that? That fucked up, bro. Like the worst thing I've ever heard. Yeah, AI war machines for sure will be something that governments will pursue. 100%. Yeah. Imagine that is like a scare tactic. You know, you're on the battlefield and this fucking like crazy robot just like eating your friends. I mean, it's not even funny. It's like super scary. Did either one of you guys get a chance to read the article that someone posted? I think it was, I want to say it was Chris posted on the Bitcoin thing about all the coins that got mined that a bunch of people lost. No. Oh, you didn't read that yet? No. No, I didn't read it. That's why I was interested. If you guys, what I did read like a couple of days before that was Coinbase is just did a big old thing where I think they got a fuck ton of money invested and they're partnering up with some security companies. And I want to say there was like, it was too and let me see if I can find it still. It was like 250 bajillion dollars, whatever is being invested right now in the, are you familiar with Coinbase? Do you know what Coinbase is? Yeah, I use them because I own a little bit of Bitcoin. Bitcoin price is low right now. Right, right. So is it going down right now? It's low. It's because of what just happened. So I think it's going to rebound because of this. They just bought three traditional security dealers to their license and become a fully regulated SEC license brokerage. Oh, shit. Yeah, so real regulation is starting to come in. That's going to make the price go up. Right. So that's those that are still scared to death of the whole Bitcoin thing. It'll start getting traded. Look, what's happening right now is they're like, okay, we can't stop this. Let's figure out a way to join them. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's kind of what's happening. That'll make the price go up. Oh, yeah. The company's acquisition of three SEC-approved brokerage gives it the license it needs to add any number of new coins to his exchange. Plus, in addition to allowing crypto companies to list more coins, SEC-recognized license will also enable them to offer more services and expand into the multi-billion-dollar world of institutional finance. Yeah, that's happening. Goldman Sachs created their own, right? I believe so. Yeah, they've already traded $100 billion worth of coins, dude. That's excellent. It's here, man. It's coming. It's definitely here. Dude, how about Russell Burger? You guys know what that is? Oh, the CrossFit dude. Yeah, he terminated. Terminated because of his comments on Twitter. So apparently there was a CrossFit gym that was scheduling a pride event. Okay, so if I read the article correctly, I read this too. I think that it was a company-wide thing that CrossFit does, like just do. No, I think it was just one location. No, no, no. One location decided not to do it. Oh. Like it was a rollout. Right. It was like a big thing. I think it was the same time, because gay pride just happened, right? Did we just have the gas? So here's what I'm reading. So I'm looking at the article right now. Now, knowing that CrossFit is a loose affiliate, I don't think that they would ever do that. I'm not saying you're wrong. I don't know. No, no, no. It wasn't like a mandated thing. It was just like everybody was doing it. Like all the CrossFit affiliates were doing like something for gay pride, and this owner decided, no, I'm not going to do anything for it and made a stance on it and put their two cents in. And then he came to that guy's defense and said that he supported him via tweet. So here's the statement that really got him, because he kind of supported him without saying the exact statement. Oh, I think he made it. I think his decision to say what he did, I mean, he got, you know, here's the thing. You should be able to be free to say whatever you want. You're not free from consequences. You know, he works for a private organization. For sure they can tell him to bounce for what he said, which is exactly what happened. But what I'm reading here is there were traders at a CrossFit facility in Indianapolis planned a workout to celebrate indie pride. And the gym owners got wind of it and they shut down the planned event. And then members heard about it and got pissed off and many of them threatened to leave the gym. And then they got an email from the owners of the CrossFit gym. And the email says, our underlying goal for the staff and members at CrossFit, CrossFit Infiltrate, that was the name of their gym, and our other gyms, CrossFit White River and University Avenue CrossFit, is total health and well-being for the individual and the community. Total health involves the body, the emotions, relationships, and the spirit. At the foundational detractor from health, as we believe God sets the parameters for, is pride. We believe that true health forever can only be found within humility, not pride. Humility is seeing oneself as they truly are and as God truly defines them to be. As a business, we will choose to deploy our resources towards those efforts and causes that line up with our own values and belief. Fine. Totally okay. That's, I mean, agree or disagree. Right, right, right. That's their business. It's like the cake issue we talked about the other day. You know, you do it. That's up to you. It's your fault if you're going to turn away from people. Members may leave. That's up to them. There you go, yep. This guy who was the chief knowledge officer, did you know that position? Is that a position? A real knowledge? Yeah, I feel like that's a... I am the guy with the knowledge. It's kind of like when Onnet comes up with their positions, you know. They make up names. Optimization guy. Yeah, yeah. Cheat, yeah. Sorry, Kyle. It's a great title. Chief cool guy or something like that. Anyway, so he writes, this is the chief knowledge officer. He writes, as someone who personally... This is where he fucked up. Straight up. Yeah, because he put his... As someone who personally believes celebrating pride is a sin, I'd like to personally encourage CrossFit Infiltrate for standing by their convictions and refusing to host an indie pride workout. And then he gets worse. The intolerance of the LGBTQ ideology towards any alternative views is mind blowing. And then he says, the tactics, if some, in the LGBTQ movement towards dissent is an existential threat to freedom of expression. The lack of tolerance for disagreement which has been replaced with bullying, Twitter mobs, promising consequences should be a concern of your political stance. So... So he fucked up. He just, he worded it bad. He fucked up. He worded it really bad. Yeah. I would love to talk to him. I would love to have him on the show to talk about this because there's a couple things that are, I think he's... Yes, I agree he worded it bad and I think he's a little confused. You know what's interesting is we were just talking to our buddy, Todd, who's been tied into the CrossFit community since it started. And he was telling me that, you know, CrossFit's known, what do you call them, the two Russell's? So it's Russell Berg and then Russell, something else I don't know. And the real protective ones of the brand. Yeah, they were known as, they were just like the thump, they would thump people. Like everyone knows that, you know, CrossFit is the type of company and it's been that way since the beginning that if you fucked with them or you tried... They'll balance you. Yeah, they'll balance you. Exactly, they'll come after you. And these two guys are supposed to be the two guys that have been doing that since it started. And so it'd be really interesting to interview him. I'd like to hear his... I've seen... He's already done some like, apology letters hasn't he? Yeah, I mean, my personal opinion is a couple of things he's confused about. First off, the intolerance of the LGBTQ ideology. If you're telling someone that they're wrong and bad, that's not being intolerant. You can tell me that that I'm wrong and bad for something that I believe in strongly. I'm not gonna like you. Does that make me intolerant? I guess maybe. But why do I need to be tolerant to you when you're saying that I'm calling all these people sinners, raise your hand if you're not a sinner. Good luck. That's everybody, right? That's the other part of it. And he's using this as a public representative of the brand, which is why he got fired. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, that's why you get fired. And it's not a threat to freedom of expression. Here's a threat to freedom of expression if the LGBT community lobbied government to make it illegal to say shit like that or do stuff like that. That's a threat to freedom. The LGBT community boycotting you and putting social pressures and using voluntary means like Twitter and all that stuff, that's not a threat. That's called societal pressures and that's always existed. Like you may say something that's not popular. Nobody should, nobody has the right to force you. Yeah, nobody has the right to force you, but everybody has a right to tell you to fuck yourself. Yeah, it was really silly to me that he even got involved in it because I felt like even the gym, the gym owners handled it fine. I felt like they handled it fine. Like listen, this is the statement out there. These are our fucking three locations. We have, these are our religious beliefs. We're not going to support it. They have every right to do that. And if you don't like it, don't leave their gym. Right, right. Or say whatever you want to say. Which I'm going to say to you, I'm going to say right now, here and here, right here, right now, okay? And I, you can believe whatever you want. I'll always respect that. And if you're cool to me, I'll be cool to you. But if you're a business owner and you're outwardly saying these types of things about the gay community or men or about women or about a different race or whatever, not a smart business move personally. And the way I look at it is this. If I disagree, look, there's certain things I disagree with. I don't like, here, I'll give you an easy one. I don't like people who are Marxist or I don't like that ideology. If you believe in Marxism, I think that's dumb. I think it's an evil ideology. However, if I have a gym and you're a nice guy and you come in and you're telling me you're a Marxist but you're a cool guy and you're, you know what, I'd rather us all work out together. We have them in our forum. Yeah, that's true. We do have a couple of Marxists in our forum. We have some in our forum. I'll debate the ideas with you, but if you're an asshole, I'll tell you to fuck out. But I would rather us be cool so we could talk about these things, debate them, discuss them or whatever. It's just a bad business. Because, you know, in talking about the forum members are like this, there's been some great intelligent conversations and debates around there that others I think have learned from by reading them and listening to the thread or reading their thread. So, yeah, no, I think there's, I think the company has every right to do what they did. I think if somebody asked him his personal opinion, like what I would have said if I was him, is I would say, hey, regardless if you agree with the positions of the CrossFit box owners or not, it is their business and it is their right to do how they wish. Right. Of course, if you want to leave their gym, that's your right as well. And that's it. Now, if somebody returned. His problem was that he put his own personal beliefs and opinion in there. He easily could have supported the gym. And that's it. Right. You could easily could have stood behind them on what they were doing and the way they were making their stance, because I think the way they handled it was completely fine and okay. I mean, to each their own. And then if somebody came out and asked him and said, hey, but what's your personal opinion? Then he could say, well, since you're asking me, this is my own personal belief. And then say it. And then it's not going to, you might get some backlash as well, but it's a little bit different, right? Than him coming out and saying, it's a sin, blah, blah, blah. Nobody asked you what your personal opinion is. Yeah. That's why that happened the way it did. I wonder if you're going to see more and more of this with CrossFit, because of the growth of it, talking again to our buddy Todd, you brought up a really good point that it really exploded almost overnight. Obviously, if you were a part of it at the beginning, you probably doesn't feel like overnight, because I know what that feels like. But you had a lot of what he called characters that may have these extreme views that are different, whether it be political or religious or whatever, that were there at the beginning that are part of the executive team that are there still, maybe don't align that much with the brand. I wonder if we're going to see more and more more falling out. Yeah. It's a loose affiliation, so they have more freedom than other types of organizations to run things the way they want and say what they want to say and whatever. And CrossFit's backbone or at least the roots are rooted or come from that descent that I'm going to be a little different and wild and say what I want. But now that's becoming more corporate, maybe that's what, because this sent a clear message, like if you're a CrossFit owner and you have the same beliefs as Russell Burger, you've now seen a clear message, so you may be less likely now to express that. You may look at that and say, okay, well, is it important for me to say that? I'm running a business. Maybe, and that's fine. There's always consequences to your opinions. I'm the firm belief that, have your opinions and be okay with the consequences, but the consequences are the consequences and don't complain about them in the sense that someone's infringing on your freedom to say what you want, because no, they're not. Have you heard him respond in any way? Is he feel like he fucked up or is he like I'm standing by the way? Have you heard anything? No, it doesn't sound like, I haven't heard much about that. It's kind of getting mainstream, I think because it's in the shadow of what happened with the Supreme Court and the ruling with the Baker, which I think was, I think it was, I think that just the way that they, what's the word, decided on that case, I think the decision was right. I think the reasoning for their decision was wrong, though. It's very, very bittersweet for someone like me. Well, the Supreme Court said the Baker has the right to not be forced to make a cake for someone, which I agree with, I think, if you have the right to associate. In other words, think about the flip side. If government could come and say to you, no, we make a law saying you have to work for someone else, that's a scary precedent. That's like slavery, right? Like you're forced to. So I think that's right, but the reasoning they gave was for religious liberty. They said, but the reason why we're saying he's okay with doing that is because of his religion. No, I disagree. I don't give a fuck what your reason is. It's your business. You should have a right to not work. Even if he wasn't religious, he has a right to make that decision. Yeah, it's his work. He's the one making the cake, so he should have the right to be like, I don't want to make it for you because I don't like your face. Like whatever he wants, he should be able, but he should also, he's also gonna. Suffer the consequences. He's gonna suffer the consequences. I mean, let's be honest here. You're not. Good luck being a bakery in San Francisco like that. That ain't happening for you. Good luck. You're not gonna bake a cake for newly legalized gay marriage. That's a huge market, my friend. Yeah. And I feel like that's an exploding, but anyway, I think that it's not about religious liberty. It's just about association for human association. Oh, I didn't know that's how they did it. That is bitter sweet. Very bitter sweet. Stupid. And here's the deal. People bring up things like the Civil Rights Act and stuff like that. Well, first off, the Civil Rights Act was necessary to reverse institutionalized racism from the government. The government was the biggest segregator and racist entity in America. I mean, public schools were the most segregated places in America. Public spaces, water fountains, buses, that kind of shit. So that was to erase a bunch of, you know, government type of segregation. When it comes to baking a cake for a gay wedding that didn't exist, from a government standpoint, that's a private business. And I also think today and today's day and age, you may survive if you have a sign on your storefront that says, you know, I'm not gonna serve you if you're gay or if you're black or if you may survive a little bit. You're definitely not gonna become a mainstream brand. You're not gonna survive that well. And you will open yourself up to Boycott, which rightly so, my personal belief, I think if that's the kind of business you are, I think you're personally, I think you're an asshole. That's my personal belief. Right, right. And people out there can go out and pick it and do whatever the fuck they want. I would 100%. If I saw a business with a sign like that, it would probably piss me off enough to, you know, put it on my own social media, use my platform to tell people. Like your favorite pizza probably doesn't serve Italians. Like how fucking back would you be? How mad are you? How dumb would that be? Or you have to have pineapple on your pizza. You know, the way I look at it. The way I look at it. We don't take the pineapple off here. Sorry, sir. The way I look at it. If you want our pizza, it comes with pineapple. And the way I look at it is I look at the person saying that and I go, well, guess what? You're not getting my money. I win. Plus, if you make a law that forces, let's say the Supreme Court ruled in the other way and they said, no, you have to make that cake. Like all the baker has to do from that point forward is if he gets a gay couple that says we want a gay wedding cake, he could literally just be like, I'm not, I don't have enough time. Now the parts that make you, you don't have to, you don't make a lie. Now the parts I don't know about the case that make me interested to know more is like, you know, is this a small town where the next cake store is two hours away? Or is this like one of many cake stores in the city? Because that makes a difference for me, right? Because that does kind of suck if you're out in the middle of nowhere and you're gay and you want to go get a cake for your wedding and it's the only cake store in town and there are a bunch of bigots. I mean, that sucks. Here's how I feel. And I can see how that could really piss me off. But there still is the internet. And here's how I feel about that. Let's say, because I put myself in that position, right? So I'm like, okay, let's say I belong to a group that's marginalized or whatever. Let's say I'm a gay man. I live in a small town and I want to go get this cake made and there's only one baker in town and he says no because you're gay. I would rather know that than go there and him know that he can't say that to me and instead say- And he's taking my money and then he's bashing gays behind the back. That would piss me off more. Or he's saying to me, oh, I don't have any time on my schedule. Looks like I can't do it. Looks like I'm not gonna be, you know, because he could still do that. I would rather know and be like, oh, fuck, I should move because this town is really not cool. Let's be honest. Would you want somebody to begrudgingly make a fucking cake for your wedding? That's why the whole case is funny to me. It's like, how good will that cake be? It's so fucked up. You will make me cake. I'm with the baker. I'm like, all right, I'll make you a cake asshole. Is there like two men thing at the time? Now, someone brought this up and they say, well, what if it was a doctor? What if you're gay and the doctor's like, I'm not gonna help you're dying of a illness or wound and you're in a small town and the doctor's like, I'm not helping him because I'm gay. Would that be okay? And I say, well, first of all, again, Freedom Association, you know, I think that that would be the worst fucking human being on earth. I think they would probably never be a doctor again if people found out. I think all those things, but trying to force them, you can't force someone to not- Is he private or is he working for Kaiser? You know what I'm saying? Well, Kaiser's still private, but my point is people can- You can't make a law that makes people- Kaiser's private company, but I'm talking about a- Kaiser could still put out there- Oh, fire him. Yes, and fire. Oh, yeah, and they would. Right, and they would for that. That's what I'm saying. Oh, my God, they would. If he was a pri- Are you saying, are you giving an example of a private doctor? It's his own practice by himself. Are you talking about somebody who works for a large company? Because anybody who- any doctor that would do that for a large company at this day and age would get fired. A private doctor would be done. I mean, imagine if a doctor right now was exposed for not helping someone because of their religion, sex, you know, race- Whatever reason. They would be shunned in society- Where did you get that example? Someone gave you that- In the forum, we had this nice discussion about it. And I think- You know why- They're such a terrible- People bring up like crazy scenarios to try and- I know. And I get it. I get where that comes from, but no, man, like that person would be- Their life would be destroyed, rightly so. I mean, if you see someone in front of you that needs your help and is dying and you're gonna say- and you're gonna say, nah, I'm not gonna help that person because I don't like their skin color or whatever. You're an evil motherfucker, especially if you're a doctor. And they do sign or they do, you know, do the oath that doctors do. That's like- Yeah, a Hippocratic oath. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, people like to use those examples. No, man, you shouldn't be forced to work for anybody for whatever reason. I think it's- You have that freedom. And you have the freedom to be an asshole. And here's the deal. Like, you can't make people not be assholes with your laws. Because how are they gonna- How are they gonna dictate that? If I don't- They're gonna turn up the asshole. Dude, if I don't like you because of your religion or your sex or your race, I can- But I know that, oh, I can't say that. It's not gonna stop me. I'll just be like, oh, yeah, no, I can't help you. Sorry, man. I'm busy. Or I'll make your cake and piss in it or do something terrible. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would rather know that person say something and then me be like, I'm gonna give my money to somebody that's cool. Yeah. To someone else. Not to- Because there's a lot of businesses that would love to have your business that are not assholes. You know what I'm saying? So I think that baker's an asshole, but I don't think you should be forced. I mean, it's just the bottom line. You guys ready to get moving again? Like, we had, like, what, maybe two weeks or three weeks so long as we've been home, I think, you know, in a long time where we hadn't had to go anywhere. Doing a couple travels. Yeah. Feeling antsy. Well, we take off, what, in a day or two. We're off to Discovery Bay for a few days and then we get back and then we're off to L.A. again. I don't know what day we leave down there, but that'll be cool. It's gonna be fun, man. I love going- I love doing these trips where we have, because the first trip is us working on the business. Mm-hmm. So we're not gonna be on podcasts. We're not interviewing anybody. We're not doing any events. So this is gonna be good. I hope to write a couple programs with you guys. We'll see what happens. We're gonna miss the Hustle Con, though, which kind of sucks. I mean, Taylor, Taylor will make it with Eli, but- Dude, if you're an entrepreneur, Hustle Con is, that's a great place, great, good connections and incredible speakers. Oh, I know he's super pumped to go, and I know he's, I believe he's bringing Eli with him. I was trying to go also, but it looks like the LA trip is gonna conflict with that. But we still have the tickets for the audience. So if you guys are listening and you guys are interested in going there, it's in Oakland. It's in Oakland, so if you're a local Bay Area person and it's on Friday the 22nd. We got a discount for them, right? Yeah, dude. Hooked up fat. Save $150. That's expensive. I mean, it's saving a substantial amount of money. $150, man. Yeah, save $150 with the Mind Pump discount. So you guys can go to hustlecon.com and then use Mind Pump and you get $150 off tickets. And everyone that I know that's been to it, I haven't been to one myself. I've seen videos and clips of obviously we've talked and met Sam Parr. So everybody that I know that's been to one of these says that they're incredible. So extremely valuable and worth your time. You guys, if you're a Mind Pump listener, you hopefully will run into Taylor and Eli. They should be running around. Look for the good-looking guy at the ponytail. Dude, can I just say right now? For all the man buns. Can I just say I'm now, like, two weeks into following the split program. Oh, yeah. You're looking kind of jacked. Bro, we did a good, we did a really good job, dude. Really fucking good job. No, no, no. We're so good. No, you know, look, we have another pro, we have other stuff that, we write things and we test them and stuff like that. People don't know the process, right? Yeah. And sometimes we'll test it and we'll come back and Adam may come back and say, okay, we need more mobility work here because I felt this problem or just fine-tuning stuff. But every once in a while we knock it right out the park and split was just, it's what a great fucking workout, man. I can feel things changing in my body. I can tell usually right away if something's going to be really effective. So, I'm getting a lot of good feedback. Yeah, I've seen a lot of cool comments coming out of split and people are excited about it. It's tough. I'm excited to see competitors because we have a couple competitors that I know of at least that are using it to, for prep. Yeah, I know. Leading into their show. No, I'm pumped for that too. Squazz brought to you by Organifi. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organifi fills the gap with laboratory-tested, certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance of the added edge. Try Organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organifi.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MINDPUMP for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Mike Safai. Oh, that's Aria's brother. Hey, hey. Yeah. Recently took a VO2 max test. My primary type of endurance training is jiu-jitsu sparring. I performed the VO2 test on a treadmill but have not run in a long time. I personally feel that if I were to run more frequently I would become acclimated to that type of aerobic activity and would have received an even higher score. In your opinion, do you feel to truly test your cardiovascular endurance? You should perform a test that you're not acclimated to. So, this is a good question. So, I mean, basically the paraphrase took a test on a treadmill. He's got a lot of jiu-jitsu endurance because he does a lot of jiu-jitsu and I know Mike, I follow him. But it's not specifically what he was testing. And by the way, I would just like to say that the Safai family's got the fucking genes of the gods. They all work hard but they're sister, the brothers. Everybody looks awesome. Yeah, they're like, someone needs to do a documentary on these people. Anyway, he did, you know, VO2 max test on a treadmill. Probably got a score he wasn't satisfied with. And so, he's wondering like, how do you test your cardio endurance should you perform a test you're not acclimated to? Here's the deal. You, whenever you train in your body adapts to in a pretty specific way. There are general broad adaptations you'll get. Like, if you do a lot of jiu-jitsu you're going to gain a lot of general endurance as well. But not nearly as much endurance as you gain for your specific type of endurance when you do jiu-jitsu. Because when you're doing something specific that calls upon a specific type of movement pattern. Specific type of endurance. Your muscles are moving a particular way. You're holding yourself a particular way. You're basically- Breathing patterns, everything is all different. So you're just more efficient at what you do a lot of. So if you want to know what your endurance is for a particular event then test your endurance for that event. Yeah, but you can't vo2 test jiu-jitsu. You're not going to be able to strap all up to the machine and be able to do that. Well, here's my point. Let's say he trained just running to improve his vo2 max and he stopped doing jiu-jitsu. And he's like, oh shit, I got my vo2 max out. Yeah, that wouldn't be- I mean, let's be honest. How often, and I've vo2 tested a bunch of times. Have you? Yeah, yeah. What's the test feel like? What do you do? I mean, you have a hard time breathing. You have an apparatus in your mouth and you're running- So there's that by itself, which is an adaptation. You know, just having- Right. Like getting adjusted and used to having some shit. Like it's hard to breathe through. And then they just keep ramping your treadmill up until you pretty much can't handle it anymore. And then they break you off and then they show you where your heart rate was at when you hit your cardio threshold. And you can improve your vo2 max like on the day. Like every day. Like you could literally have- You could go do a vo2 max test the next day. Like go do a max effort like cardio max. And like do that like five days in a row. Come back and retest and you'll have already increased it. So I'm not like a- This was not a test that I used very often with clients or we really even cared too much about it. For that exact reason, like you're saying Sal is that if your main thing is to increase your endurance with jiu-jitsu using the vo2 test, maybe as a baseline but not to change what I'm training. You know what I'm saying? Curious, right? Is it the Davies or the Coopers where they really just like test on like your verbal like affluency. So like after you're done, like if you could speak clearly. I don't think that's either one. Davies is something else. Davies is, yeah, okay. Davies is a movement test. Either way, I liked it because it was more like I could do something like specifically like if I was doing jiu-jitsu and after that I could see like how quickly I could then like gather my composure and be able to speak or if I went like to exceed that to where it took me a while to catch my breath. That's really like as simple as I needed as far as a gauge of like how adapted I was endurance wise. Or a great way to do it or I would do it if I was training someone in jiu-jitsu and I really have no jiu-jitsu background or any business training someone with this but I know enough that I would go, you know, I would take a handful of some of the most important drills that you use in jiu-jitsu and we would measure that like so and Sal can probably contribute better than I can here but whatever those roles are or specific moves and then we would do it for time and we would try to improve upon that. So it's like, okay, you can get 40 slams of the heavy bag slams and this many roles and this many whatever and this amount of time and then let's measure that let's improve upon that let's shed some time off of that and get better and more efficient at that because those movements are more applicable to what you're doing in jiu-jitsu than getting on a treadmill putting a mask over your face and running like that's Have you guys done the lactate threshold where they actually do the prick yet and they measure out like, you know as far as like how much lactate whatever you're producing so like you go through these movements you're able to see kind of how quickly recover like from that aspect so that's interesting to me too that's another one Yeah, if you want, you know here's why cross-training exists in the first place cross-training exists to be able to give you improvements and benefits that the specific sport or whatever you're training in may either A, not give you or B, to prevent overuse injuries from constantly doing the same repetitive stuff so cross-training is really good for that now the bottom line is if you want more endurance for jiu-jitsu nothing, nothing is going to give you more endurance than doing more jiu-jitsu for jiu-jitsu so that's just the bottom line if you want to get really good at that type of endurance just do more jiu-jitsu now the problem becomes well, what if my hands get really sore or my joints start to bother me because I'm doing so much damn jiu-jitsu now you would incorporate cross-training where you'll get some carryover in which case then I would say do probably sprints I think sprints or like what do they call it fart-licking, which I hate that name that's actually a real word by the way but a fart-lick is like where you do a slow jog and then you do a sprint and then you do a slow jog and do a sprint that to me, that form of running mimics more of the type of stamina that you would need for jiu-jitsu than just long running or just doing sprints because jiu-jitsu is a sport where you explode and then you hold and then you explode and then you hold and that tends to be the type of stamina that you want well that's what I meant by like a movement like I don't know I'm sure there is a getting up off the ground technique right? sure and I would have them do that for time right so we would do it for a sprint which or for a short amount of time so for one minute how many times can you get up and get back down you know in one minute time and we count however many that is and then we improve upon that and that you improving upon that we'll probably have some carryover into your VO2 I would imagine that you would probably increase that a little bit but more importantly it applies to jiu-jitsu more than again running on a treadmill with a mask on your face so you know I always use the tests like that with people that were playing in sports as a baseline to give me an idea like what I don't want to see is it get worse like I don't want to I don't want to get a client who's hiring me to improve their you know jiu-jitsu endurance or basketball endurance or football endurance and I go about my programming and we do a VO2 we start off we do a VO2 max test just to see kind of where they're baseline where they're at and then four weeks later we come back and we check it again and they got worse that's not good I'm not doing my job if I can improve upon it and the big problem I have with metrics like this is then people start to rely on them and here's the thing when you're doing jiu-jitsu there's so many variables and factors that can contribute to how well you feel during your matches everything from the technique you're using to how well you execute the techniques to the type of game that you're playing on the ground and more all those things will contribute to whether or not you have a lot of stamina or not here's another example let's say you're a swimmer and you want to improve your VO2 max to give you more endurance you could do that or what if you got what if your technique got better so that every time you did a stroke in the pool you moved a little further and moved a little faster now using the same amount of energy but you're more efficient all these things play a role and the problem with just measuring things like VO2 it's like when bodybuilders measure body fat percentage that's why a lot of pros and guys don't they don't care because it doesn't matter they have to look a certain way on stage you can actually go down in body fat and look less lean because you're flat or because your muscles aren't pumped or whatever it's cool as a coach because you can show like metrics it's just another it's just another feedback mechanism it's flashy and I got caught in that for a while I wanted to like I mentioned lactate threshold these are all things that I was like oh wow they use these in like sport specific science you know labs where they're testing these high performing athletes but really like you said you can manipulate it within that same day so how valuable really is it and there's also perceived like the perceived effort perceived intensity which is subjective there are objective metrics and measurements but there's also subjective stuff like for example if I told Justin right now hey let's go see let's go see how much you could squat and he goes ah he squats and you ask him afterwards was that your max he'd be like yeah that was totally my max well what if I went back in time and I said to Justin Justin if you can squat and I come up with a number that's higher than the one that I know he did you know yeah if you could squat let's say 10 pounds over that you'll get a million dollars he may perceive himself to be stronger and actually be able to be able to lift the weight more that perception of intensity and that perception of effort makes a big difference your mood will influence whether or not you're feeling like you have more stamina while you're training as well like all these things play a role and I'm not saying all of this to make you think that it's not worth it at all to measure metrics I'm just putting it in context you use it the same way you use body fat scale HRV you know step count I mean they're all yeah I think it's a great tool and I'm not saying it's not worth you doing it but don't live or die by it right like exactly it's not it's not worth you focusing on just trying to increase your VO too because if you the best way to do that is go invest in one of your stupid bane mask wear it on your face run on a treadmill on an incline and then go back and test your VO too in a week or two of doing that every single day but you're specifically training for that exactly and I bet you you'll crush the test but then ask yourself did your jiu-jitsu get any better you know probably not yeah I remember back you know back when I was training guys would go and do all these crazy hardcore endurance type training and try and come back and be more to see if it would apply to their training and I would ask them like are you you know how do you feel like I feel kind of burnt out I don't really feel like I have more stamina or energy and so I had them write down what they were doing and it was a bunch of hill running and long running and all this stuff and I knew what their problem was the problem was they had very poor stability and strength nobody's strength range so I said hey try this out instead of doing all that crazy endurance just keep doing jiu-jitsu keep doing you know add an extra day of jiu-jitsu or whatever so do more rolling and then let's have you lift weights twice focus on heavy lifting and do like three to five reps and they'd be like oh but three to five reps like that's not going to give me stamina for jiu-jitsu I said no it's going to build your base strength which will give you stamina they did and within three weeks they came back like dude fucking huge improvement I feels like so much more stable I'm not getting as tired as easily and it's you got to kind of measure these things out so it's not as easy as you think but definitely the type of adaptation that you get is very specific to what you're doing adaptation in the first place and if you want more endurance for a sport nothing is going to work better than doing more of that sport if you're stronger you don't struggle as hard that too yes next up is Synthes 91 can you guys talk about set points will your body always want to return back to its set point we discussed this a while back a long time ago it's been a long time you know I hate this I hate it when people say this is there a set point yeah I mean to a certain extent your body doesn't want once they define that yeah your body doesn't want to go below a certain body weight because then you may be sick or malnourished well here's the thing I think they do exist I just think it's always moving you know what I'm saying sure you have a like I have an right now where I'm currently at like movement wise the amount of muscle of my body the age that I'm at hormonally exactly right now at this moment my body kind of has a set point where it wants to where it's comfortable where it doesn't where it wants to be right but that easily can change when I start changing all these things up when I if I change my hormones if my stress levels change if I start to increase volume in my training if I start consuming way more more food than when I'm consuming right now all these things will start to manipulate that and change that the question is is there a set point that if you try to go around it your body's gonna push you to get to this other set point well I think then there's a little bit of truth to a set point is there is definitely a point where you know you will find yourself and let's just we'll use both directions right both whether you're trying to gain or lose where it gets way more challenging right where it's like my body my body when it gets and we'll use me as an example and everybody's uniquely different but once I start pushing beyond 220 pounds of lean mass my body just says like it doesn't want to be there just the scale the skeletal structure but I've done it I can push beyond that but it's about where it's about my threshold of where my body naturally really wants to be and the same thing goes when you're cutting when you're cutting and you want to be super lean I find when I get down to like 7, 8% it's you know with some good discipline and consistency it's pretty easy to get there the difference between that and when I would get ready for stage is damn your death you know what I'm saying my body is fighting this is why I hate the whole set point conversation your body's set point if you had a set point is healthy that's where your body wants to be your body literally wants to be in a place where it's lean but not shredded you know muscular but not so muscular that you're force feeding yourself strong mobile fit healthy not extreme that's what your set point is able to overcome whatever environment you're introducing your set point is in obesity this is why I hate this because people you know why that is so not true do you know why people think that do you know why people think that because they're confusing their set behaviors with some set point biological set point well that or they fucked their metabolism up and it doesn't make sense to them that's more to me that's more common than anything is somebody who has absolutely destroyed their metabolism who is 200 it doesn't make sense to them that this must be my body's set point it wants to be well let's again 250 pounds because I'm only eating 1500 calories and my body doesn't seem to go anything below that and then they go back and they splurge it again I will I will refer back to what I said your set point is you want to be healthy at that in that situation if you've dieted and yo yo dieted and overworked yourself and did all kinds of crazy things to that point is to be at 200 pounds consuming while you're consuming 1500 calories well that's the important point tonight right there now can you change that yes but ultimately your natural set point is probably where most people would be pretty comfortable for the most part but yeah people confuse it with behaviors they think oh my body just wants to be 40 pounds overweight no your behaviors it's you that has a psychological set you're exactly you're not willing if you want to move your set point you have to change your lifestyle that's the bottom line and changing your lifestyle is not easy humans are very complex so when we're talking about things that you do every single day like eat and move and how you think you know fundamentally changing those like well there's a whole there's a whole like issue so it may feel impossible only and only it's not impossible it's just you're dealing with having to change fundamentally change how you eat how you think and how you move which makes up a pretty large part of your life I think this this whole buzz term set point is just a a marketing ploy it was used for a while and I think it's just a way to make people feel like oh yeah I can find out where my body's set point is by putting in my if I follow this I'll change my set right that's all a bunch of bullshit and gimmicky stuff just to get you to buy something at the end of the day like it does everybody's like skeletal structure and metabolism and age and all those things matter and do you have an area where your body naturally wants to be absolute but then can you can manipulate that both for good and bad absolutely I've done this over the course of my lifting my set point at one point used to be at this 160 to 170 pound male and that was based off the activity I was doing that was based off the amount of lifting and understanding that I had with training and nutrition that's kind of where my set point was does that mean that I couldn't move it does it mean I couldn't be healthier or less healthy by making poor and there's periods in your life hormones and everything I'm still growing as a human being and there's points where that process slows down of course but you know at that point too the psychological piece becomes even more prevalent like this is how I have to pursue on if I have a specific goal I want to recalibrate you know and get to a new objective now there's also a point to be made here though with what Lane talked about with the adipose tissue and increasing your fat cells every time you do and absolutely like if you continue to lose weight then gain a bunch back lose weight gain a bunch back it becomes easier for your body to want to be fat your body remembers yes it remembers that and it's easier for it to get fat again if you were there before so the up and down thing is one of the worst things that we could possibly have done to our bodies and so yeah it probably does feel though when I eat outside of my you know caloric restriction where I need to be to kind of maintain it feels like it just goes right to my gut it goes right to my stomach well yeah that's because I've put on body fat in my stomach enough time and then lost it put it back enough time that you bet your ass it just takes a little bit of outside the boundaries and my body starts to put that body fat I had a so here's a good example of this I had a conversation with Jessica over the weekend and I've been a user as an example of what I mean she had made with her body's natural set point or if you will or her natural metabolism when I met her two and a half years ago because we were going over these numbers and I was like is that right and she did she tracked everything she weighed 135 pounds she was consuming 1300 calories a day and she was doing seven plus hours of running a week so that's not just regular elliptical cardio that's actually running seven hours of running calories anytime she consumed over 1300 calories she gained weight that was two and a half years ago today she'll consume over 2200 calories a day now is what she eats she weighs 119 or 120 pounds and she does zero cardio just to give you an example of how much you can change the body I mean you're talking about the difference of 8 to 900 calories in food and a reduction in manual calorie burning by a lot you're doing cardio every single week and that's not some wild like crazy example I see it with the people that coach all the time Katrina is the exact same story it's crazy I met her she was a college athlete and the way she stayed in shape was she ran her ass off she ran for miles and miles every day and you know and when she trained inside the gym everything was circuit training based and you know when she was in great shape she just tightened her diet up a little bit when she was in not so great shape she was eating pizza and just trying to run it all off and her calories were typically anywhere between 15 1600 calories just to keep herself at a lean body weight and running that much and she's a zero cardio now lifts weights four days a week and is able to consume damn near a thousand more calories a day that she was before it's fucking wild yeah but I mean that's exactly it's an example and you can go in the opposite direction this set point that you know people try and market to you is always changing and you have completely changed that in all different directions and you can be very extreme about it so if you're somebody who's using the set point thing is an excuse of why you can't build muscle or lose body fat again this is more of a psychological set point than it is an actual physical set point next question is from Natalia Goody I want to understand the best way to warm up is stretching before lifting weights a warm up so first I would like to talk about the importance of a proper or we like to call priming now I will admit for most of my career in fitness I did not understand the full impact of the importance of a proper it was almost an afterthought I thought of it as part of being young I thought it began and ended with injury prevention that's it I thought okay here's why I have my clients warm up here's why I warm up it's to prevent injury I did not consider that the reality is the minimum a good warm up will do is prevent injury the maximum it will do is take your current work out and make it like not exaggerating 10 to 15% more effective in terms of muscle building fat loss just through better connection and better movement it's like adding a turbo take your current work out and then it's like sprinkling a little bit of creatine on it or like a little bit of turbo on it you don't have to change your work out you just primed it so well your work out is way more effective that's the different that's how big of an impact it can make now that being said you know you can do general warm ups and priming but nothing is gonna be come close to one that's specific for your body and what I mean by that is let's say I want to do a general priming session for barbell squats I know I'm gonna squat well I'll probably do some hip priming maybe some you know leg swings maybe I'll do some single leg stretches maybe I'll warm up my ankles and my feet a little bit I'll do some short foot and some combat stretch with activation and then I'll get in and do my squats or knowing my body and knowing the issues that I have with my body which is gonna be different from person to person I'll do specific types of priming for my body for example one for me that is works really well for barbell squats is to sit in a squatted position and do a band pull apart with the band because I have issues with my thoracic and I have issues with depth with my squat and it's just one that's more specific to me if you prime your individual body properly before you lift weights it's like a new workout I really don't know how any other way I mean when we wrote prime and we started implementing that shit I was just like wow this is a totally different ball game completely yeah I keep evangelizing it just because I mean I think that it's still it's still a new concept it's it's something that people when they finally like take you know like ownership of it and they want to actually vest some time into it because I think that a lot of people are still in the mentality that like you know time is everything and like well I just want to get to the workout and what is this really going to do for my workout well when you actually go through the process you feel it it's something that you tangibly feel you're going to feel how everything like fires off the way that you want it to so it's really just it's setting things up so that way when you're actually in your workout you know as you're experiencing these movements and these lifts you're going to actually feel it where you're supposed to feel it and also you're going to get other muscles that are going to contribute and stabilize your joints how they should that you're going to feel how that all works together so if you do it properly but it does take some education I think it's human nature we don't want to we don't want to fix something until it's broken and we don't realize it's broken until we get the crazy red flags of the injuries and the aches and the pains and at least this is how it was for me personally like as a trainer I went through all the certifications I learned all this stuff and I remember I remember teaching it I remember telling clients like oh you need to foam roll you need to do some of these stuff like that and just you know do it like it's you know I tell them I didn't want for 20-30 minutes of your work out with me like I want you I mean that's something you can do on your own like with me we get to work you know I used to tell my clients that so day one I would show them the corrective movements that I knew they should be doing but I wouldn't like drill I didn't put that much effort into it and part of that reason was because I was a young 25-year-old kid who'd had no aches and pains and didn't really I had great posture and I took care of myself really well and so I would have felt like to have hips my hips lock up or my neck bothering me or my shoulder nagging or to hear this clicking noises I didn't know any of that stuff yet it wasn't until I got into my 30s did it really open my fucking eyes and I went like holy shit like I consider myself a very fit person and I'm starting to see and feel and notice these things and then I started to actually apply all the knowledge that I had to myself and I went holy shit yeah game changer how I felt that moment it became this this was a priority now I start when I would take a client it would be like that's all I would spend time doing it's like this is your foundation like we gotta make sure your body is in the optimal position before we go and do these lifts or one we could potentially hurt ourselves or two we're not maximizing your results because your body is not even working properly well think too about like and I know some people might be able to identify with this as far that I feel like okay now I'm comfortable like I've done the proper amount of sets you know kind of leading up to that so for me that's eliminated that whole process so if I'm going to squat like I don't have to do like an extra five sets of warm up to really get into that space where I feel like everything is firing and you know supporting me properly that's a good point because people will be like oh I don't have time for you know a good priming session well you're probably doing a bunch of warm up sets of the exercises anyway so you actually have it takes about the same amount of time takes me a good 15 to 20 minutes max to do my priming session and it saves me time because I get into the exercises very quick look here's the deal grease in the groove before okay when your body hurts what you need to understand is before the pain comes there was weeks, months or years of dysfunction of inefficiencies dysfunction or dysfunction so what does that mean that means for weeks, months or years you were getting a percentage of what you could have been getting from your workouts you were literally getting less than the potential you just you just didn't know it because nothing was hurting yet and then when it started to hurt you're like oh shit I need to start priming my body properly you've already wasted a lot of time or at least a lot of potential that you be getting from your workouts the second thing is I can't stress how individual or how much more effective it is when you prime individually on an individual basis I'll give you another good example let's say you have a really bad forward shoulder you are going to prime to bring the shoulders back and down before any fucking exercise okay so it's not necessarily specific to the exercise although priming can be it's more specific to your body because is my ability to hold myself into better posture going to benefit me knowing that I have forward shoulder is that going to benefit me when I squat yes is it going to benefit me when I do a row yes what about when I bench press yes overhead press yes what about when I do a curl yes pretty much anything I do is going to be more effective and efficient if I work on the imbalances and issues that my individual body has and that's what makes priming different than a warm up now the question here is stretching before lifting weights a warm up static stretching typically I don't we don't advise doing it before but for correctional purposes sometimes it could be okay we have to explain why static stretching to me I think is one of my biggest pet peeves that I see like in sports I see this a lot I see young coaches with athletes they have their kids all out there and they're holding these long static stretches right before they go into a game like this is not ideal like if you're going to do some sort of a stretch like a dynamic stretch would be more ideal just moving in through and out and that's because when you sit there and you hold a stretch for 30 seconds or longer you're telling the central nervous system to relax to calm down to relax and you all everyone's felt it before right you're in a stretch it's like oh it's rough and then all of a sudden it's like like you feel this release or you get deeper and then any range of motion is the focus versus like you know taking you in that like shortened position which is what you're going to apply on the field right yeah look here you don't just from another angle if I'm stretching my hamstrings hamstrings with the static stretch and I'm holding the stretch and I gain an additional three inches of range of motion what I've done now is I've told my body to have this new range of motion that I have no strength with him so now when I'm running or fighting or wrestling or whatever sport I'm doing I'm going to move in a new range of motion that I don't necessarily have good control over which increases my risk of injury this is why studies show that static stretching just applied willy-nilly pre-workout or pre-event raises the risk of injury not decreases it now is static stretching okay before a workout depends for correctional purposes sometimes it's okay using the example of forward shoulder if someone's forward shoulder so fucking bad that it's hard for me to get their shoulders back I may static stretch their chest of course especially before they go do binge practice just to get shit out of the way but no for the most part general static stretching will increase your risk we programmed all of this in maps prime that's what maps prime is designed for there's an assessment tool that comes with it so you do a full there's three tests that come with it and it will help you kind of figure out what areas that you have some sort of dysfunction or imbalances at and then where you should be priming and or if it's really bad what types of fortification sessions that you should be doing which is more along the lines of static stretching and self-mile fascial release going that direction so we've I mean again and I've said this multiple times like I think the most valuable program that we have is the prime pro bundle which is both prime maps prime pro which is highly recommended if you have nagging pain shoulder stuff that's a real correction yeah that's like if you complain about that stuff that's a must if you're just somebody who wants to be more preventative and you don't have any aches or pains but then you do recognize and understand the importance of you know properly stretching or warming up before you go into a workout then maps prime is hands down the most beneficial thing I mean I love to have somebody program like I'm not asking you to stop especially if you like it and you're seeing great results and you trust the person that's programmed for you follow their program add prime and prime pro into that and see how much you start to get more out of their program just by the biggest the biggest opportunity I see with prime is for athletes to use the priming session that they figure out for their body before their event that would be that's such an application that has so much potential like before you go on the field do your priming session you've learned that is for your body and then go watch your performance and see what happens next question is from mxaviersan 5 have you guys ever thought about using mind pump as a platform to do philanthropy I know what you asked you put this question in there for sure it's a hundred percent we're already heading that direction right now we first had to get Doug paid though I mean that's that was definitely a priority first on the list yeah no for sure you can't afford but if we weren't paying him first remember when I brought that up years ago Doug got so mad yeah we were hella early on I said Doug's coming don't say that people are going to think I took cocaine relax Doug no this has been something that early on I remember Sal always said this was before we made a dollar Sal said my ultimate goal is to eventually start a nonprofit whether it be through or with mind pump the goal of his and you know most certainly think that's I mean I wanted to get a Ferrari that's what I think I said but we all agree that this is something that we're trying to implement into mind pump and you know part of our conversation and us aligning with Mir and Brian which is an CEO you guys will hear that episode coming real soon here and we talked a lot about this oh yeah I think I think is as a private business if you're successful I think you have a responsibility to find purpose and meaning for what you do we had a responsibility to first become successful no and I don't mean I don't mean you have to give or be part of a charity or do philanthropy I think your responsibility if you're trying to be successful is to literally find purpose and meaning because nothing will drive you to do a better job there's a purpose behind what you're doing so that may just mean that you want to make the most you know cost effective breaks on a car that may be your purpose and that's fine I just see that as being a difficult I don't necessarily think that's a something that's a common purpose I think at least for me and I know for you guys is if we know we're helping a cause and we're directly affecting and helping that cause I think it'll make us so much better you know what I mean it's bigger than than mine pump it's bigger than maps it has to do with something that we believe in and this is definitely a direction I want it to make an impact that makes sense you know with what you know we're doing as a business as well so it aligns nicely with you know our message and with what we could tangibly see helping people versus us just finding any random charity on like you know I can't stand that so I can I think that I'm really happy the way we've done this and the order we've done it and the fact that we're having conversations around this the fact that it won't be a quick decision it's something that we've thought long and hard about and we want to do it right and like you said Justin it should line with our message and what we're doing and I think what's happening and Sal made a point that I think nowadays in business use that as your their selling point and like that to me is not what is gross it is gross to me and you know Tom's kind of paved the way I think for a lot of people at least for me I don't remember who was really doing it before Tom's was but I think even they are struggling now I don't know if you guys have read stuff on Tom's but they don't have a good product they don't have a good product their shoes suck but they what they were a good example of is if you are doing some great work and you have you're a good cause you could literally build a brand off of that and because of that I see a lot of people doing that but I think they're doing it with the wrong intention like I think we started we don't even have a product yet right like a lot of times you'll see like this like very you know great intentions going into the business but the business end of it hasn't been well thought out yet right yeah it's like they want to gather all this money for this cause but you know it's all hype dude it's all hype dude who started their business off this way with good intentions you know I'm not talking about everybody I know it's an over generalization when I talk like this but it's a bad business plan it is a bad business plan and let's be honest we're going to be able to provide way more help by doing it this way by yeah how can you help anybody if you fail yeah and how are you really helping anybody if you don't have a good product or you don't have anything else and you're purely just trying to you know leverage the me giving back as a way to build your business how much are you really helping and people might think oh it's so cool he gives all of his money over to whatever cause and it's like well yeah all of his money is only $100 a month that's all he's making or would it be more impactful for us to take the time to actually build a legitimate successful business that's going to be here for years and years and years and then take our time to court a bunch of different and do our homework because there's a lot of these these businesses that are doing things that aren't helping they think they're helping but they're not I mean how many times we were just talking about this with Brian was like oh shit like I didn't see that happening no you gotta be I want to be smart I want to be really smart with what we do I want to really help people not just in the short term I want to help people in the long term and I don't want to go and ruin economies which has happened so many fucking times a good example is Haiti during that whole situation where they needed lots of help we went in and dumped you know hundreds of thousands or millions of pounds of rice to feed the people and in the meantime destroyed their their economy for rice and so we killed all the businesses there and now they have nothing to continue so they run out now they eat all the rice that they got for free or whatever from charity and now they're fucked and they're in a bad situation that was poor thinking and planning so I want to help people in a very real way but at the end of the day look the bottom line is this like if if we're growing and we're successful you know nothing will drive I can only I can speak personally I know you guys feel the same way nothing drives me to work harder and do more than knowing that there's people that I'm really helping part of that is through the podcast when we go on to these live events you know I get so humbled because I hear firsthand from people how our fitness advisor whatever is helping them and it makes me feel like oh fuck this is definitely bigger than just the business like we're really helping people with eating disorders we're helping people with the relationships to exercise and food and make the right decisions and that feels really really good and it gives gives us a sense of purpose and I think look you know as the business grows as it makes money as we become very successful monetarily it'll feel really good to know that we can help with some of that money and other ways not just through the market which is also a great way to do it but also through philanthropy and I don't know isn't that that right there that point you just kind of went over is like such a good one that you could argue that someone running a very very successful business is doing more good for the the economy and for others than somebody who starts off with the idea of these intentions to get back and never really grows a business if you have a business and it's it's total market total free market and what I mean by that is you're not getting subsidies from the government you're not you know no laws are saying you have to exist you literally exist because society is buying your shit and supporting you you are making people's lives better now there's no you can't pass judgment on whether or not you know you think it's better or not like I can't look at the company and say well they're not really making other people because maybe they are people want to buy their Twinkies and whatever and I know the health implications but people are making that decision for themselves so you know if you do have a successful business you are in many ways making people feel better I don't see a lot of frowns when you're eating a Twinkie exactly it's a really good point Justin we're definitely going this way we're just weighing out our options can you still buy Twinkies? I think we can have a Twinkie when we go on this trip no dude why dude they're not good you can have whatever you want oh I disagree with that can we at least have a taste test hey we'll see if we can find what do you think Justin yeah we'll see what do you think Justin of course I'm in that's my boy trying to pin me down Doug are you down whatever you say Adam come on man come on Doug it's not going to turn into one of these that a boy you're going to be the only one that doesn't have a Twinkie you know it's crazy watch how happy I'm sulking I'll wait till you go wait for the next day I'll wait till you guys have a Twinkie then I'm going to then I'm going to be gloating I'm going to bring the wipes well we have to need extra wipes we got to be careful we can't have a box of Twinkies we can have a Twinkie you know what though just one here's the thing oh you didn't no I never was a kid I loved no no you know what I like I was a kid I loved what are they called they look like a cupcake but they have the hard custard on the top oh ho ho it kind of looks like that it's like one of those little Debbie things oh the Ding Dongs is it a Ding Dong God you're like an expert on me oh ho ho candy in a sweet eater man I tell you these are all Ding Dong 45 the one from 1986 so the one where they changed the recipe the swirlers I'm like holy shit no they were the yellow ones and they had the yellow custard on the top that was kind of hard and then the squiggly lying down it oh zingers zinger yeah I like those I actually did a bulk once and I utilized zingers wow yes because because I'm like I just need calories so I would eat a massive bowl of cereal milk I'd eat five scrambled eggs with cheese and then on the way to work I'd eat four zingers you know what I reminds me I used to eat those like shitty pies at like 7-eleven to home run pie those are you know what's interesting to me are the things like that all of those that we just literally named right because they were all things that I ate as a kid it reminds me of what happened to me when I was I mean as a trainer right away as soon as I was in the gym life so by 20 right away I was eating protein bars all the time almost every day for years and years and years and it was always finding which one you like best and oh this one's amazing which one had the highest protein right right chasing that stuff and Quest has got such a great protein bar right well it wasn't until we started Mind Pump that I like cut protein bars out of my diet and I remember I did a show where I was like eating protein powder or any bars and see if I can notice a difference in my body I'm going to do all whole foods and I did I remember telling sharing that on the show the thing that I was most fascinated with though is protein bars that I loved and thought were delicious when I went back and tried them again tasted awful and they tasted awful that to the point where I thought oh I must have got a bad bar so let me eat a second one and then I eat a second one I'd be like that doesn't taste so good I bet by the third and fourth one about the fourth or fifth bar I could it started and then by the bar seven, eight, nine it's like oh these are so good again and it's like I did that a couple of times where I intentionally took it away for like a good period of time then came back to kind of test that that's why I so fascinated to me so here's what's going to happen I'll predict this right now you're going to eat the Twinkie you're going to have a piece of it and you're going to be like ooh I don't want it anymore and then we'll make ourselves eat it yeah it's too sweet like I don't want anymore that's how I am now that's what's going to happen the only way you can get away with it is if you have a glass of whole milk with it that'll help offset the is that the strategy oh yeah because it offsets the sweet I'm going to apply that or you put butter on it Justin okay now we're trying butter Twinkie and then shove 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